
In this episode, I'll unfold the international failures of NATO in this current conflict. Also: Scott Jennings joins the show to discuss this and more.
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Dan Bongino
all america all the time sit down buckle up and get ready for the dan bongino show oh boy do i
Justin
have a surprise for you guys today what an amazing guest was kind of chatting with him a bit before the
Dan Bongino
show you know scott jennings move over
Justin
a little bit i was in the
Dan Bongino
wrong spot there you know scott jennings from cnn we played his clips on
Justin
the show i don't know a couple hundred times probably debates at about ten o' clock every night on cnn with abby phillips and others just amazing what an incredible guy we're gonna get into a whole bunch of different things how it's almost impossible to date liberals debate excuse me i don't want to date
Dan Bongino
liberals debate liberals because they constantly change their position now they're arguing that donald trump hiked taxes i thought the democrats wanted to hike taxes of course it's not true how do you debate someone where you're like listen we're going to debate the mathematical certainty of three plus three equals six and then five minutes later they're telling you it equals eight and then it equals nine then twelve then it equals two like how do you debate that it's really hard he
Justin
does it live every night so it's going to be great and man did
Dan Bongino
donald trump drop a bombshell on true social right before we came up on
Justin
the air we got to talk about that i got a whole show for you today i got this is one
Dan Bongino
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very nice so this little bombshell dropped this morning on true social from president
Justin
donald j trump folks get ready it is going to be an eventful twenty four hours says quote i won't read the whole thing but the beginning talking
Dan Bongino
about a potential bombing campaign in iran
Justin
like nothing we've seen before he says
Dan Bongino
quote a whole civilization will die tonight never to be brought back again i don't want that to happen he notes but it probably will however now that we have complete and total regime change
Justin
where different smarter and less radicalized minds
Dan Bongino
prevail maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen
Justin
who knows we'll find out tonight he goes on about the forty seven years of extortion folks this is how donald
Dan Bongino
trump debates how many times justin how many times we have to discuss this donald trump does this all the time for the pearl clutchers for the pearl clutchers and the people getting their drawers in a bunch pulling oh my gosh donald trump does this over and over and you guys keep and ladies out there keep with the clutching the pearl oh my gosh i can't believe he said that he takes a what position what's the word he takes a maximalist position we're going to put one hundred percent tariff on said country because they're not investing enough in the united states and they're taking advantage of us on agricultural products doesn't matter to country you get the point meanwhile in donald trump's head is a ten percent tariff but he knows that the country doesn't want one hundred percent tariff on their goods so what does the country come back with the country comes back to donald trump says hey man we'll do fifteen donald trump's thinking man that's great i only wanted ten how many times correct how many times is this going to happen where the pearl clutches i can't
Justin
believe he said that obama civilization he's
Dan Bongino
doing what he always does this is his negotiating stuff now he's not bluffing about an attack that i'm sure of i mean he's proven that correct the regime has been entirely wiped out the iranian navy is no more the iranian ballistic missile capability has been severely reduced their drone capability he's not kidding however the discursive rhetorical style he has in his true social posts is unquestionably a maximalist position he does all the time folks i just i get it's exhausting trying to keep up with the level i can't believe we're going to get him for war crimes ted lieu added already do you see ted lou's tweet
Justin
but that i'm sorry going a little out of order here but ted lou
Dan Bongino
that ridiculous congressman who the guy's just a moron here's ted lieu joint joint
Justin
chief of staff ucmj university code military
Dan Bongino
justice and federal law prohibit war crimes next he notes that the next administration will prosecute you he's just setting up for impeachment he said keep in mind we have not even engaged in this maximalist civilization ending bombing campaign which is not going to be civilization ending you know this it's his negotiating style and ted lieu is not concerned about taking out the iranian nuclear capacity or finding the four hundred kilograms of freaking nuclear material bro that could be used to create a potential icbm one day to nuka city in the united states ted lieu the dipshit is concerned about what he's concerned about impeaching donald trump for a bombing campaign that really at least one he's discussing hasn't even really started yet to the degree he said folks do we really have to get into this too it is not a war crime to bomb infrastructure when it is used by the military to attack us and attack our allies it is not a war crime ted lieu is just making that up ted lieu is an idiot ted lieu knows it's not a
Justin
war crime
Dan Bongino
infrastructure is attacked directly and sometimes indirectly as basically they hit another target some infrastructure gets hit as well in war all the time this is nothing new i'm not sure if ted lou's just stupid and doesn't know that or does know it's a liar i'm not sure which one is better honestly you know who's committing a war crime the iranians who are telling their civilians to go act as human shields at these facilities because they want them to die that's a war that's an actual war crime what side is ted lieu on i think you know the answer not ours ted lou's the anti anti communist ted lou is friends with our enemies that's who ted lieu is these guys want us to lose
Justin
folks it's
Dan Bongino
one of the most disturbing things i've
Justin
ever seen this is again i had a lot of questions about the iraq war doesn't matter who cares what my history was on it a lot of people had a lot of questions about that a lot of people had a lot of questions about a lot of the wars and conflicts we've been in people had questions about vietnam i lost my uncle over there he was shot in the back over there
Dan Bongino
this is pretty clear cut that they were an enemy you don't have to agree with military action they actually chanted death to america there are government officials on video saying our real goal was to get a nuclear bomb and they have basically no problem using it they had a ballistic capability ballistic missile capability excuse me they lied about our missiles only go this far oh look it almost hit diego garcia you guys didn't tell us that yeah we lied the case that they are an enemy of the united states that could cause us a real problem and in the future going forward on a more dramatic scale than the pretty dramatic problems they've caused us in the past through proxy terror attacks is not far fetched and the fact that through barely two months of this war that we've had unbelievable military successes i still don't understand why you're cheering on the wrong side like i told you we got scott jennings coming up later as a guest but here's a clip of jennings on cnn engaged in one
Justin
of his nightly debates where he always does a great job we'll ask him
Dan Bongino
about that too where again i want you to listen to scott he's a patriot and the other members of the panel and just ask the question like these other panelists on cnn these liberals like what freaking side are you on
Justin
check this out we know that the
Dan Bongino
regime is basically still in charge we know that iran is basically in charge of the chokehold in the straits of hormuz it just doesn't seem like we're making any progress you don't think other
Scott Jennings
than destroying a thousand military targets a
Dan Bongino
bunch of targets that still have kept
Scott Jennings
the regime in what regime the people that were in charge are dead there's now new people and there's been credible reporting that they're having trouble even communicating with each other they're very strong
Dan Bongino
the president is the same by the way
Scott Jennings
you don't know i mean the person they say is in charge has never been seen in public you've seen a cardboard cutout but that's all we know and so it doesn't sound great to me if i were in there it might not sound great but the irgc and the way they're structured is so entrenched in the iranian society that there's
Dan Bongino
not regime change hasn't happened a leadership
Scott Jennings
change has happened they're in such great shape that we had pilots on the ground in iran for two days and we sent hundreds of special forces in and rescued them in the irgc and nobody in the civilian population could seem to find or help capture our guys
Vince
they're not in great but scott you
Dan Bongino
can't i love the commentary in the background the regime hasn't changed it's just new leaders well ladies and gentlemen when the regime of old leaders is screaming death to america and we're down to like the seventh layer of leadership you're down to like say you had the you had the grand ayatollah the sub grand ayatollah the mini ayatollah the mini me ayatollah and the mini mini me ayatollah you're at the seven layers below him now i think we can effectively say much of the regime is regime has been changed because they're freaking dead what side are these people on are they trying to give them like the give them like a little boost like a newt rockne speech like go iranians you got us now what side are you people on folks one of the
Justin
things that's been driving me nuts about this conflict and others too and it happened to us during our time in the government as well are leakers we
Dan Bongino
are fighting a freaking war man people will die if you leak national security secrets now to leakers out there you will kill someone number one and number two you are leaking classified national security secrets is not protected speech or whistleblowing it's a freaking crime dude it's a crime that's prosecutable and by the way i don't give a damn who did it a bunch of people making an issue they leaked it to this guy it was in a israeli newspaper i don't care who they leaked it the people involved who leaked this should go to jail it doesn't matter to me who they leaked it to leaking information about our downed pilots that could have gotten someone killed is a crime it is not protected whistleblowing and for media people yes you have a constitutionally enshrined enshrined freedom of the press i will vigorously defend that using this microphone and i certainly did during my time at the fbi you are not entitled to go out and print a bunch of national security secrets that are going to get people killed thank god donald trump addressed this yesterday from the podium i
Justin
got a couple clips from this he
Dan Bongino
spoke at length yesterday the most accessible president in modern history here's donald trump talking about the downed pilot and i'm glad he addressed this to leakers i've had enough of this bullshit and he
Justin
has to check this out but these
Donald Trump
two extraordinary rescues because it was two and as you probably know we didn't talk about the first one for an hour and then somebody leaked something which will hopefully find that leaker we're looking very hard to find that leaker and talked about there's somebody missing they basically said that we have one and there's somebody missing well they didn't know there was somebody missing until this leaker gave the information so whoever knows we think we'll be able to find it out because we're going to go to the media company that released it and we're going to say national security give it up or go to jail and we know who and you know who we're talking about because some things you can't do because when they did that all of a sudden the entire country of iran knew that there was a pilot that was somewhere on their land that was fighting for his life and it also made it much more difficult for the pilots and for the people going in to search for him all of
Justin
a sudden chat's blowing up over this
Dan Bongino
april twenty fifth in the chat debongino i've had enough of this bullshit too god bless our president folks when we got in there during my experience there you would come in in the morning and you know drink black coffee and it'd be a leak to the washington post you believe bongino drinks black coffee what kind of guy doesn't put milk in his cup you'd be like are you serious everything would leak everything all the time we had to get rid of people left and right and then the media would get upset that we were hunting down leakers i can't believe they're polygraphing people i can't believe people are leaking national security secrets and other
Justin
stuff not everything was national security but
Dan Bongino
you get the point folks we got to make an example out of someone and i told you i'm not playing any bullshit politics with this at all i don't give a damn who that person the leaker leaked it to i care that that person who leaked it goes to jail here's the problem and again i'm going to give you just gonna give you the hard truth it is really really difficult to find these
Justin
people really difficult because a lot of
Dan Bongino
people know this stuff it is hard to isolate it down it's not impossible we've had some successes hopefully we'll have one here i can only imagine the
Justin
investigation going on i'm not on the
Dan Bongino
inside we've had some successes some of
Justin
them public some of them not but
Dan Bongino
it's really difficult to trace these people
Justin
down
Dan Bongino
but just disgusting folks i want to talk about something else that came up yesterday too because this is where i titled the show this today i'm dead serious man it's time to get a refund from nato if nato is not going to step up and help us right now forget about nato even our european allies in general if they're not going to help us right now in this existential war against the death to america death to europe death cult in iran then just let us know now and we can slowly part ways we can trade with each other but you know what we can pull our bases and you guys will be on your own you think you've got enough european military power in western europe to take on the russians or china if they decide to engage in a nuclear volley go right ahead but i'm getting really exhausted because i'm telling you during my experience they're eighty percent of the legwork military law enforcement counterterror counter espionage is done by us and what do we get back in return nato and all this bs put up that john
Justin
conrad tweet forget about that this guy john conrad i've been following on on
Dan Bongino
x he had a great tweet about
Justin
this yesterday how we kind of did
Dan Bongino
this to ourselves a little bit how over the years the security umbrella through counterterror efforts military protection we have provided to western europe has basically made them a cultural hub you got great museums you know they've got great food they've got great champagne i know i've been there to a lot of western european countries they're beautiful but our military protection near guarantee for them has allowed them to become cultural hubs and tourist spots while not taking any tactical concern seriously put the end of that tweet up if you wouldn't mind this is a great tweet i can't read the whole thing it's john conrad with a k it's a verified account he talks about how nato is in far bigger danger than anyone realizes and the reason has nothing to do with defense budgets it's
Justin
yeah it's true justin said this may
Dan Bongino
be the longest tweet we put on
Justin
the aaron dan bongino show history i've
Dan Bongino
got to scroll to the end because the gist of it is kind of
Justin
summed up in the last few paragraphs
Dan Bongino
how because we have supported their cultural institutions and institutions of higher learning and art centers and everything that they have this inflated sense i'm not talking about all europeans talking about basically government officials and bureaucrats and some of their elites that they have this superiority over us leave this up look at you dirty americans with your walmarts and your strip malls us freaking dirty americans are the only reason you guys are even alive right now he writes quote our crudeness our stunted liberal education our ugly strip malls are because we sacrificed our culture to support yours who wasn't for us you wouldn't have the louvre and all your museums and all your fancy stuff and your haughty culture and your nose in the air stuff you guys and ladies gonna help us or not now i've got news for you those ballistic missiles over there are you guys are in range at least not this second we are not although we will be relatively soon if we don't stop them you're in range now your museums and all your fancy culture i told you i had nothing but professional dealings with our european partners but it is time for you to or get off the pot you know what i mean get out of the damn bathroom you've been in there all day people are knocking it's time to do something move it along you're going to help us or not now there's a decent piece in the wall street journal yesterday about how some of these countries are in fact helping but quietly why are you helping quietly what are you embarrassed by us strip mall americans who actually work for a living to pay our military to support you all folks this is some serious bullshit i'm sorry our military by the way does not lose wars okay the experts and global elites lose wars i even saw pope leo i'm a christian but pope leo talking about how we should be pacifists yeah individually i don't come in in the morning and punch justin in the face and kick him in the nads hey justin why don't i do that cuz i don't like violence and you shouldn't either but you're telling me as pope a very intellectual very smart man pope leo you don't understand how nation state actors who might want to kill us and annihilate the globe may have to be handled with violence i don't understand it i know it's not a popular position questioning the pope on the show i don't care i have a brain i can think myself too we do not live in that world god gave us a world of challenges and obstacles we have to handle with hard decisions and hard men doing it i want to play
Justin
this little cut by thomas sowell we haven't played the genius of thomas sowell
Dan Bongino
in a long time but i don't want you to fall in this trap
Justin
that scott jennings is fighting every night on cnn against the elites you got
Dan Bongino
the pope now chiming in and other you know so called experts and academics oh war's lost we're all going to die this is horrible european elites we're not helping it's not a war for us a war of choice not a war of choice yeah it is a war of choice the iranians chose to declare war on us with death to america and accumulating a nuclear stockpile a long time ago it's their choice not ours here's thomas our military doesn't lose wars the experts and the media lose
Justin
wars check this out
Scott Jennings
vietnam intellectuals and society again among the many implications of the war in vietnam was that it once again illuminated the role of the intelligentsia in influencing the policies of a society and the course of history we didn't lose the war the intellectuals surrendered on our behalf yes in fact the communists themselves in later years admitted that there was no way they could have defeated the united states on the battlefield and in fact the tet offensive which was the turning point that the communist guerrilla movement was virtually wiped out in the south but the intellectuals saw that as a victory for the communists and the war was unwinnable and once a democratic country decides that a war is
Dan Bongino
unwinnable it becomes unwinnable thank you thomas sowell the man's genius is timeless the elites nato allies european elites who look at us like strip mall americans they're the ones who are going to lose this war not us our military's tactical dominance is on display every minute of the day in iran is it not did you miss that folks i want
Justin
to get back to this nato issue in a moment donald trump yesterday spoke i'm in a mood today just so
Dan Bongino
you know everybody get dude am i
Justin
not you know you saw me walk in this morning i am in a mood today this show could go on for like five or six hours
Dan Bongino
i'm going to play this clip of trump on naito and rubio next because this i want a refund okay if this is going to be an alliance then act like allies if not pay for your own damn military while we pay for strip malls
Justin
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Dan Bongino
okay donald trump is off about this nato issue as well they're quietly support why are you quiet why are you quiet nato i don't understand why are
Justin
you quiet we're not quiet about our defense of your countries
Dan Bongino
we're not quiet about our trillion dollar military budget that
Justin
provides a security umbrella for the entire
Dan Bongino
free world of what used to be free world why are you quiet donald trump's clearly had enough of this bullshit too and i'm glad he called it
Justin
out yesterday in the brady press room check this out but all i want
Donald Trump
to see is i want to have a safe world and you're not going to have a safe world israel will be gone the middle east will be gone and then they're coming for europe and i have to tell you i'm very disappointed in nato very i think that nato i think it's a mark on nato that will never disappear never disappear in my mind you know they're coming to see me on wednesday they're going to say oh we'll do this we'll do that now they all of a sudden want to send things you know but they said it loud and clear at the beginning when i spoke to uk of all i would have said they would have been the first because they've been they're the oldest and i say yeah i'd love to have a little help said no sir we'd rather wait till you win i said i don't need help after we win they have two old broken aircraft carriers barely work i said i guess we can use them who the hell knows i called the general he didn't even want them he said we don't really need them we got the ss abraham lincoln sir we don't need them you know we have in terms of technology we had one day one hundred one missiles going at two thousand seven hundred miles an hour aimed at the abraham abraham lincoln one hundred and one missiles out of one hundred and one missiles one hundred and one missiles were shot down unbelievable technology ten years ago five years ago i don't know if that would have been possible but ten years ago that wouldn't have been that wouldn't
Dan Bongino
have been possible he's tired of nato too folks if you're going to make
Justin
the case to me and listen this is going to piss off a lot
Dan Bongino
of moderate democrats and a lot of moderate establishment republicans too if you are going to make the case to me after what i just went through over the past year that nato is quote invaluable the greatest alliance in the history of you know global militaries fine make the case some of the history with nato has been incredible after nine eleven very brave by the way i'm not knocking the people who serve you serve in a military in the uk any of our other nato partners god bless you that is an amazing sacrifice this is in no way directed at people who put boots on the ground however to the political leaders who are like embarrassed by what we're doing in iran to clean up a global security threat you are in right now with their ballistic missile capabilities over there i'm embarrassed you're embarrassed we need a realistic evaluation of our global alliances folks i'm really sorry we've got trillions and tens of trillions of dollars of debt we've got obligations to folks here i don't discount that i get why some people may be upset seeing this as some kind of war we could have pushed off a war of choice which it's not but i understand your concerns they're not invalid that we have domestic problems too i understand that so if we're going to continue to pay for tens of thousands of troops overseas on foreign soil to help protect these countries from invasion then you well better step up or give us a freaking refund you start paying for it then paying us back here's marco rubio the best secretary of
Justin
state i've seen in my lifetime my
Dan Bongino
opinion but i'm pretty sure it's true
Justin
here's secretary of state rubio on nato
Dan Bongino
and again this eight thousand twenty issue i told you about how we provide about eighty percent of the workload intel law enforcement ci connecticut military they provide about twenty maybe thirty be generous so when do we get something out of this check this out and i've been
Marco Rubio
a big supporter of nato and one of the reasons why i've been a supporter of nato is because i believe that these basing rights give us leverage and give us flexibility and operational capability all over the world but if nato is just about us defending europe if they're attacked but them denying us basing rights when we need them that's not a very good arrangement that's a hard one to state engaged in and say this is good for the united states so all of them is going to have to be reexamined all of it's going to have to be re examined
Dan Bongino
if you folks in the chat want
Justin
to give justin some moral support he put his x account link up there that's clever that's good i like that good comeback very clever you can go
Dan Bongino
with it it'll be okay justin rubio's right when do we get something out of this folks again if you're i can't say this enough you want to make the case how naito is invaluable to us the history i get the history you're not wrong there's been some quality moments throughout the history of the alliance where they've come through for us this is today you ever remember that book that famous book eckhart tolle wrote the power of now i'm not a big eckhart tolle but whatever this was a really popular book the whole idea was which should sound tautological but isn't to some you live in the now the past has already happened you're not going to change it so there's no sense worrying about it the future hasn't happened yet so there's no sense worrying excessively about tomorrow you have to live in the series of nows life is a series of now what are they doing right now and the answer is right now they're like embarrassed nato embarrassed
Justin
by us really you are like i
Dan Bongino
said i'm embarrassed you're embarrassed i love this guy can we try to get
Justin
him on peter st angie we played his clips enough it's like scavia scott jennings oh peter if you want to come on well if you don't want to come on it's fine but if you want to come on we'd love
Dan Bongino
to have you here's peter st ange he does a lot of economic segments but this is a very very valuable
Justin
like minute plus clips not that long
Dan Bongino
about the economics of nato to what we do on that front and again like what are we getting in the now in the now right now not tomorrow not in the past what are we getting out of it right now
Justin
check this out so why are we
Peter St. Ange
in nato with the exception of token forces in afghanistan we've gotten literally nothing from the alliance we have indeed spent trillions on one study by the foreign policy research institute estimates roughly twenty five percent of our military budget is for europe so over two hundred billion a year rand estimates it's closer to three hundred billion so forty seven percent of collective costs note that's just ongoing costs it does not include the ukraine's nor the bosnias and kosovo's that came before it now three hundred billion is more than somali layering centers in fact it's enough to cancel the income tax for everybody up to to one hundred thousand per year put differently three hundred billion is enough to cancel all tax on business which would steal every large company and job from europe if you tally it up over the eighty years of nato it comes to roughly ten trillion dollars in today's terms you are welcome
Dan Bongino
europe yes you are welcome europe
Donald Trump
so
Dan Bongino
forgive me but i'm really tired about the lectures about our american culture thank
Justin
god for our american cult
Dan Bongino
you know i
Justin
i don't know if you all remember this this is probably for p one s who've been listening forever but about three years ago i was at the iron bowl in auburn and we had lost that was was that three years ago the milroe miracle i was at the game was i'm an auburn fan so for you alabama fans it was a great moment for you a terrible moment for me especially sitting there at the fifty yard line watching it my daughter was devastated throws a touchdown wins the game with no time on the clock ugh
Dan Bongino
however i go home
Justin
really disappointed and we had outside of auburn losing the game to alabama this is the american heartland right here the hard working south alabama i walked out of that stadium and despite everybody being a little upset people were coming up and i must add a hundred people say the nicest things about the show they've been with me forever all this stuff i wake up the next morning in the hotel room i forget where i was staying it was somewhere in opelika i think and i get up really early and i type out this facebook post about the south and how amazing the people down there are it
Dan Bongino
feels like the south i'm an i'm
Justin
a yankee man i'm a new york kid i live in florida which is like not really the south you know the joke about florida the more south you go the more north you get the further you are south in florida the more northern you are it's the opposite so florida is not really the south at least south florida but just the love and the sense of community
Dan Bongino
the south feels like one big enormous family it's like the biggest family you'll
Justin
ever have and i basically wrote in the facebook post like can you guys just like adopt me like i feel like i missed out on this i really do sometimes i'll listen to like a morgan marlen song about the tn or something like that and i'm like that's special i love new york growing up there but that's really special you want to talk about culture european nato partners that's culture try it sometime
Scott Jennings
go
Justin
check that post out if you ever get the time i meant every word of it folks these constant anti anti communist attacks where you can't really determine what side the democrats are really on anymore except for the side that's against america like whatever side is against america they they align themselves with instantly they're
Dan Bongino
having a real problem with this because
Justin
there are still a lot of democrats left in the south not a ton but a lot and i'm telling you like they don't buy this bullshit either
Dan Bongino
i want to show you this clip
Justin
on cnn harry anton who's a pollster over there who seems to be pretty fairly honest guy when there's bad news about democrats he puts it out there
Dan Bongino
good news he puts it out there i want you to pay very close attention to this poll in case you think this anti americanism this pro men and women's room bullshit that they're still going with this boondoggle one hundred billion dollars super train in california nonsense this mom dummy we're gonna send social workers out there instead of cops this stuff is not working i say that cuz we got a midterm election coming up and i just can't take doomers the doom and we're going to lose everything sucks trump's the worst you got that moron over there on his show talking about twenty fifth amendment all this these people are complete imbeciles that should be disregarded immediately the democrats are in a world of pain and they want to see us lose the midterms facts matter receipts matter here's a cnn pollster we cover a lot talking about the democrats favorability you think this is really high the democrats are riding this wave right now numbers matter they're not doing so great check this out party ahead at this point midterm years with the gop president in twenty eighteen dems were up by twelve in two thousand six on net favorability which party you like more dems are ahead by eighteen republicans are actually ahead on net favorability at this point by five points so democrats are just simply put running behind their previous benchmarks and they need to be running well ahead of him if they want to take back the united states senate
Justin
given that map thanks andy sorry i had to fix my ipad there yeah you okay i'm sure andy was going to make it there he like almost fell like i'm being a little dramatic he like kicked it i saw him though he like balanced himself instantly like
Dan Bongino
a cat you ever notice how a cat falls from a bunch of the cat always winds up on its feet you ever see them twist in the air it's amazing folks why is this
Justin
a problem for the democrats their favorability
Dan Bongino
being very low because you live and
Justin
i'll address this with scott jennings later by the way as well you live
Dan Bongino
in the era of ai you live in the era of instant information exchange where bullshit the democrats used to shove down your throat in the past is no longer good and valid because people can just check instantly they go to grok they go to an ai generator and they say is this in fact true here's what i mean this is
Justin
why the democrats are getting annihilated right
Dan Bongino
now yesterday i mentioned natural experiments you know what natural experiments are they're experiments where you can't manipulate a variable because it would be unethical so you just look for that variable in nature that is you have two towns next to each other one raises the minimum wage and one doesn't because they're next to each other it is a natural experiment you could see the effects of minimum wage natural experiments were everywhere so i put this in google gemini so you can't accuse me of like some right wing bias it's obviously a left wing company right here's google gemini's definition of
Justin
natural experiments there's my that's a screenshot
Dan Bongino
of my phone what is a natural experiment is an observational study where researchers exploit naturally occurring unplanned events or policy changes that divide a population into treatment and control groups without direct research or manipulation okay i bring that up because the democrats suck and their favorability is really low because we have natural experiments out there right now like tax rates in california versus tax rates in florida i may be a researcher i didn't change the tax rates i'm a whatever i'm just a professor at some college but i can study that so i went to turbotax and i just said hey give me the state tax rates and here's what we got for the twenty twenty five tax year states with the highest income tax rates include california hawaii and new york tax free living
Justin
they know it's some other states florida alaska and texas why do i bring
Dan Bongino
this up because folks the reason the democrats suck so bad and why she shouldn't be dooming and glooming about the midterms is when you conduct a natural experiment of people who live in california with high taxes versus florida with no income tax people leave california to go to florida and texas they don't go the other way like ever you can't run from that anymore you can't hide from it maybe you couldn't the walter cronkite era before google gemini and grok and the instant availability of twitter and the internet it's going to be really really expensive to be a liberal democrat moving forward here's a perfect example here's this goofball mayor up in new york mom donnie mamdani he's got people fleeing the state to the point where the governor of new york is begging people from palm beach florida who left new york to come back please come back i know our state sucks but come back here's mamname he's saying please stop leaving i will offer you higher taxes if you return maybe not his exact words but pretty much what he's saying
Justin
check this out being in the wealthiest
Scott Jennings
city in the wealthiest country in the history of the world we already see an exodus of working and middle class new yorkers so i don't have a hesitation in asking those who make the most amount of money in the city
Justin
or the most profits in the city to pay a little bit more so
Scott Jennings
that everyone can actually stay in this
Dan Bongino
city please stop leaving come back and we will kick you right in the nuts with some new and even higher taxes welcome back like kata some of
Justin
you get that i may have aged myself justin has no idea what i'm talking about
Dan Bongino
all you have to do is look the stuff up so yesterday i played a series of videos if
Justin
you missed the show please check it
Dan Bongino
out a series of videos of media reports about this high speed rail boondoggle in california that basically is running into the hundreds of billions of dollars at this point they could have basically rebuilt probably every school in california three times over for the cost of a train station and high speed rail that's still not finished now you can just look that up folks there's a natural experiment for you there too high speed rail what does it cost when government does it versus private sector it is a boondoggle of course here's aoc who may be a presidential candidate in twenty twenty eight god forbid but it may happen here she is of course on video because we just looked this up instantly telling you how great high speed rail which is destroying california's budget still isn't finished and absolutely sucks here she is
Justin
defending it check this out it connects
Vince
our communities it's equitable it's so much less expensive and what's so important is that it's also just we need to be loud we need to be numerous we need to make some noise and we need to make sure that your member of congress knows that this is important to you that you want high speed rail in your state and in your community and so make sure you go to fun high speed rail dot org
Dan Bongino
you can just look that up bro really they're doing such a great job with it ladies and gentlemen artificial intelligence and computing power is going to make it listen to me really expensive to be a liberal democrat moving forward i
Justin
they're asking for donations at that web that's i hope not because that
Dan Bongino
would be like imagine stealing all the taxpayers still asking for donations folks when i say expensive i mean it's going to cost you a lot of political capital moving forward it used to be easier to hide this stuff with tom brokaw and peter jennings with three news networks at night and no fox news or newsmax or twitter or anything like that you can't hide it anymore here's a perfect example of what i mean i told you joy reid would be in the show here's joy reid on this is you can instantly fact check this now here she is making a completely ridiculous absurd statement that i promise you thirty years ago liberal media chuckleheads would have been like yeah man joy's right we had no taxes before the twentieth century nothing really because it's pretty easy to just go and like put that in a search engine here's joy
Justin
reid check this out if you go
Scott Jennings
back before the twentieth century there were
Dan Bongino
no income taxes there were no regulations
Scott Jennings
on business you could earn as much money as you want leave one hundred
Dan Bongino
percent of it to your children with no taxes that's the world they want
Scott Jennings
back and to get it back they
Vince
need society to change they need people
Scott Jennings
to be less modern they need people
Dan Bongino
to want fewer things why are the democrats at a very low favorability rating despite the constant media hysteria and doom and gloom about how awful the republican party is because when democrats do democrat stuff people hate it and you can't hide it anymore and blame it on republicans all i did was go to google gemini again because again i don't want to be i don't want it to be assumed like if i use you know grok which is more down the middle i went to google for a reason and i just put in this again a screenshot of my phone list for me federal government taxes prior to the twentieth century oh look tariffs
Justin
imports excises on goods like tobacco tobacco
Dan Bongino
and alcohol temporary income taxes to fund the civil war so you mean she's just making it up no honestly joy's probably just dumb but it is going to get really expensive moving forward to do this because there's instant fact checking people are people go into this go into twitter all the time x grok is what this tweet saying true all the time fact check this being on the side of facts and reason is going to help us can you put
Justin
up that greg price tweet about abigail
Dan Bongino
spanberger here's what i mean too the democrats used to be able to hide hide the limitations of their ridiculous policies
Justin
high taxes you know endless funding of
Dan Bongino
public schools no school choice all that stuff now you get democrats in office right like spanberger she runs she wins the governorship of virginia she's a democrat she runs as a moderate i use air quotes here because no one actually believed that at the time gets into office in virginia she's taking people's guns they're gerrymandering this state even by gerrymandering standards in a ridiculous way she yes exactly joe biden moderates justin giuseppe here it's greg abigail spanberger has the worst favorability rating after eighty days in office of any virginia governor of the twenty first century because they can't hide this stuff anymore you don't have this problem with good republicans you do have this problem with weak republicans who go in there and don't do conservative stuff but you've seen throughout history when republicans go in even in liberal states and clean up the mess giuliani's new york reagan after the carter era you see people are happy and elated because conservatism works this stuff doesn't work folks and you can't hide it anymore she's getting crushed right now she's only been in office eighty days has even been six months not even close ai is also going to make not only liberal progressivism collectivism socialism really politically expensive going forward as you're made a fool of in live time it's going to make ridiculous policy positions you stake out even more absurd like this men and women's sports liberals i know you're not going to change i'm not trying to teach you how to be better liberals you guys want to stick to these dead policy positions like men and women's sports please you're welcome go right ahead i'm just telling you like people can look this stuff up they see how absurd you are and how ridiculous you sound megan rapinoe is back i hate playing clips of this absolute numbskull however here she is trying to make the case that yeah there's no real evidence like men and women's sports and all this really okay i'll show you some evidence coming up next that you might have some direct experience with check this out already know
Megan Rapinoe
that biology as much as we want it to be just nice and clean and tight and perfectly in one category or another it's not we know that so now what we're doing is subjecting everybody all women and all people who are identifying as women to this really invasive testing that only to me just says like oh so we're just trying to whittle it down to a certain type of woman is that what we're doing like that's really the whole game here like there's been you know they sort of like lost the battle on gay marriage and lost about all these things so it's just like we're gonna have this whole campaign for all these years to just hate trans people which is such a small percentage of the population it's actually like on a single hand when we're talking about sports and just like thread the absolute tightest needle thread that you possibly could this committee is framing it as based in science which it's not and this will ultimately just prevent people from competing within the women's category that they feel like have an unfair advantage it's just really hateful
Dan Bongino
so it's not an unfair advantage to
Justin
put men in women's sports by the way we don't need the qualifier biological men can we just stop doing that they're men they're men okay there's no evidence put up that cbs sports article
Dan Bongino
this is fascinating talk about natural experiments right fellas natural natural experiment i didn't conduct it wasn't meant to be a research study kind of interesting though cbs sports fc dallas under fifteen year old boys their squad beat the us women's national team in a scrimmage
Justin
wow was
Dan Bongino
was that the year the women won the world's two and they they lost to a bunch of teenagers by the way i'm sure they're very talented women but i thought they're i thought what was this like not the miracle on ice but the miracle on grass did i miss something cuz this looks to me like a pretty natural experiment you
Justin
know why do we have weight classes in boxing by the way anybody know
Dan Bongino
because you know force equals mass times acceleration more mass more force kind of how math works so if you're larger and have more muscle mass or miss mass in general you can probably create more force so in order to make boxing matches and ufc matches more equitable they have weight classes you don't want you know brock lesnar fighting mighty mouse okay but megan rapinoe who is indicative of this larger keep telling each other lies sweet little lies movement on the left really wants you to believe that men who are biologically endowed with greater muscle mass than women a scientific fact have no advantage out there despite the us women's national team losing to a bunch of teenagers in dallas and if this were the case and the forget rapinoe but liberal progressives in general really believe this that men have no advantage in women's sports then fellas andrew why do no women compete men's sports you notice that why don't you see that
Justin
why why can anybody answer that like
Dan Bongino
why why are there no women competing in like men's boxing matches why are there why aren't there women like linebackers in the nfl why why not i thought there were no differences i thought megan rapinoe was like biology really not that simple no it's pretty simple they're
Justin
pretty simple biology
Dan Bongino
right good point justin why why are there no women's world records in sports like the marathon the four hundred why are there no women that beat men i'm just curious you just told us there's no difference it's a spectrum spectrum no it's a binary
Justin
folks i'm telling you going forward it
Dan Bongino
is going to get really freaking expensive
Justin
to be a liberal lunatic i'm not
Dan Bongino
telling you republicans are going to provide
Justin
the answers to all of our problems i'm just telling you democrats are going to have a really really hard time defending their insanity here's another one i saw yesterday liz warren elizabeth warren liberal
Dan Bongino
democratic senator put out another tweet about the wealth tax this is going to be a staple policy position moving forward either a wealth tax or a universal basic income for the democrats going to be a staple position moving forward and it sounds good in tweets it sounds amazing like oh my gosh jeff bezos i don't know jeff bezos i never met this guy in my life of course runs amazon you know the deal washington post she knows jeff bezos has two hundred twenty two billion if he paid my wealth tax this year we could fund insulin in america he goes into all these things free lunch and bezos would still have two hundred fifteen
Justin
million billion dollars to spare now you
Dan Bongino
see that and you're a dopey lib
Justin
and you're like oh that makes sense
Dan Bongino
to me and then you ask simple
Justin
questions you go to ai or you
Dan Bongino
ask someone or just put it in
Justin
a put it in the internet in
Dan Bongino
a search engine well what's happened when we've done this before because surely there's
Justin
a natural experiment about this and there is you had wealth taxes in maryland wealth taxes in france you had a
Dan Bongino
proposed wealth tax that's moving through right now in the state of washington and what happened in said natural experiment fellas this is so weird the craziest thing man they institute this wealth tax and people leave to not pay it and then when they're forced to pay it if they have to they have to liquidate assets because liz warren who by the way is not stupid aoc i'm
Justin
not sure ted lieu i'm really not
Dan Bongino
sure i promise you liz warren is not dumb liz warren knows full well that jeff bezos does not have two
Justin
hundred twenty two billion dollars sitting in
Dan Bongino
a freaking bank account jeff bezos has these items in assets many of which are not immediately liquid so if jeff bezos is forced to pay
Justin
don't know him i should say i don't know
Dan Bongino
i don't care about him if jeff bezos is forced to come up with seven billion plus dollars he's going to have to cash out a number of assets and if everyone in the us economy worth a billion or more had to do the same thing the stock market would be wiped out tomorrow in a mass liquidation event of course you can look that up dumbass libs but you won't because you don't want the answer cuz you want to continue to tell each other sweet little lies and ignore the natural experiments going on all over the world right now facts and data are your enemies if you're on the left i know you are allergic to them i know it but that's why we got a guy like scott
Justin
jennings coming up a little bit who
Dan Bongino
uses facts and that's why he always wins his debates on cnn i got
Justin
him coming up in a few minutes um i do want to show you how facts and data matter to me too on an entirely different you got my eric squats hey listen i try to cover i told you this show we're going to cover a lot of
Dan Bongino
material today i'm looking out for your health you know i absolutely love and
Justin
adore life hacks anything you can do
Dan Bongino
to suck a few extra minutes of
Justin
quality out of your life you should take them so i got the whole show staff doing these ten air squats once every forty five minutes to an
Dan Bongino
hour i see this yesterday on x here we go damn bongino vindication moment
Justin
this is at aus wellness zip atkins
Dan Bongino
ten air squats every forty five minutes equals ten thousand steps talked about this amazing study from the university of texas that they can control blood sugar better than going for a full thirty minute
Justin
walk when you sit all day your blood sugar spikes go through all this
Dan Bongino
stuff but ten air squats wakes up everything instantly i'm actually doing fifteen now i love it i'm just looking out
Justin
for you you know i love you guys trying to bring you some really interesting health hacks this however is one of my favorites and one of the
Dan Bongino
nice side effects your legs will be like rocks they're like stone after a year of this even me with my bad knee you shouldn't do it with a bad knee or bad back or whatever even me with my bad knee
Justin
your legs are going to be like this wooden table like rocks guys get yours in today you do see even andy's good man it's good keeps healthcare costs that's good for the business everything see a capitalist too all right i'm gonna take a quick break and then we're gonna get to our guest scott jennings you're really gonna like this interview i've been following him for a long time i'm just gonna tell you in advance it is really really hard to be on live tv and be a guest and on a show on a debate show it's easy to be the
Dan Bongino
host because you know where you're going because you're the host when you're the guest man these are you got boomerangs coming at you from everywhere so you
Justin
got to be prepared for everything quick break and we'll get right to scott hey i think censorship's coming back you've seen it you've seen it over in europe you've seen the democrats talking about it now talking about how when they
Dan Bongino
get back in power they're going to start going after corporations folks i worry
Justin
about these guys and so should you i see it happening just about everywhere many platforms are controlling narratives again deciding what they want to see not what you want to see what they want what they want out there we have
Dan Bongino
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Justin
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Dan Bongino
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Dan Bongino
folks rarely do i get excited
Justin
about interviews these days but i am really stoked about this one you probably
Dan Bongino
already know him from my show because
Justin
we play his clips all the time from cnn electric debates scott jennings welcome to the show what an honor to
Scott Jennings
have you on dan thanks for having me and if i might say i think this is the first time we're actually meeting and i just want to take the opportunity to tell i'm a huge fan i've been a fan for a long time and i'm really grateful that you went into the government it's not easy thank you to go in and do what you did and serve the government and give up what you gave up so thanks for your service and thanks for the invitation to be
Justin
here today oh that means a lot i really appreciate that and it was an honor you know and asked to step up you step up and do it so it's you don't want to tell everyone else to do it and then when it comes to you guys i meant everyone but me like that's not an answer so it was a great year we had a we had a good time it was an honor to work for him so you're over
Dan Bongino
at cnn your clips are just everybody
Justin
in the conservative movement your name id's probably through the roof they've seen you on social media just battling back and
Dan Bongino
forth you know we were kind of
Justin
chatting a bit before and i said
Dan Bongino
to you listen i gotta give cnn begrudgingly a little bit of credit for continuing to have you on i joke
Justin
on my show all the time that
Dan Bongino
you know i probably would have fired you a long time ago because you're always there making such unbelievable points it's it's like sometimes i can see the hosts battling a little bit to keep up but what's it like being over
Justin
there being just ideologically overwhelmed all the time typically you against like four or
Scott Jennings
five well my first answer to that is it's an honor and it's a privilege because there aren't too many debating spaces in american media right now you don't get debates too much over at fox you get a little bit i guess on the five and they really don't do any debating at all on ms most media is ideologically siloed and so cnn decides we're going to actually have some debates and you know they have a history of that and then they went away from a little bit but now we do it every night at ten but other shows do it as well the four o' clock show with casey hunt they always include me or people like me and i think these debates are very valuable so you know you always know you're going to be somewhat outnumbered at the table and you always know that you know you're basically the odd man out but for conservatives i think that is a valuable thing to have where we can probably bring to an audience that doesn't hear much from our side facts and rational thinking and logical thinking to these debates i think it's incredibly valuable so i have to really credit cnn our ceo mark thompson thought of this ten o' clock debating show back during the presidential election and i think they thought it was going to be a short term thing just for the election but it was so popular and people liked it so much that they've left it on the air and it's become one of their best shows and i think it's because it's drawing in audiences that they might not have otherwise gotten not just for the live show but as you pointed out the clips these clips live on you know days and weeks after and i think there's a lot of people consuming cnn debating content that would have never ever watched cnn content before so for a lot of reasons it's a privilege and i think it's an extremely valuable thing yeah i mean you
Justin
just exploded onto the cmn i had known about you from being in these circles but my gosh i was started doing the show and it was just every video is getting hundreds of thousands
Dan Bongino
and millions of views because you know you become i've been a commentator for about ten years now and when you were on the air i used to
Justin
debate you know geraldo these things were media i had us like the top out of the influential we were like forty five like me and geraldo duking
Dan Bongino
it out but what i found from
Justin
the emails i get and you probably receiving legions of them now is you
Dan Bongino
become like the people's voice not everyone
Justin
has the opportunity to go on cnn or ms or fox and debate obviously
Dan Bongino
they just don't there's one seat and your butts in it so you better damn well produce and if you lose the debates and get your ass handed to you you're pretty much done so it's a lot of pressure but do you get those emails too like thank you for saying that i've been thinking
Justin
that for the longest time yes i
Scott Jennings
get emails people walk up to me on the street everywhere i go airports just you know whether i'm in new york or dc or back home in kentucky a lot of people walk up to me and just say thank you for saying what i wanted to say and there's a lot of people out there consuming news and for mainstream media they feel like there's very few people in there that actually see the world the way they see it or have the values that they have and so for a guy from middle america who's you know a conservative guy who's got some political experience but you know i'm not a career government person or anything i think they're just find it they find the value in having a voice that basically sees the world that they the way they see it and they can articulate these things i think they also look at a lot of political media and they say this is garbage like this analysis is garbage you know this you know these views are garbage you know these things could be punctured with just a couple of key questions and really who's going to ask them if someone like me isn't sitting there i find that that's often the best tactic in these debates dan ask a simple question how why you know why do you believe that are you aware of this fact and so just simply being around to throw those things in often turn these debates into something that our conservative audiences can really rally around so it's hard and as you pointed out you have to be prepared because you got four or five people banging on you you know for a long period of time but as long as you're prepared and as long as you're confident in what you're saying and as long as you've you know prepared for what the left is going to throw at you you can usually have a good night with these guys because i find their their arguments don't really they're not used to being challenged and they dissolve somewhat like a paper straw you know with just a little bit of
Dan Bongino
a little bit of testing haven't been
Justin
on both sides of it having again done cnn and ms commentary and being over at fox when i had my own show on fox and the show i have now this is why i just i have so much respect for what you do when you're the host you know this you host your own show the scott jennings show you know what's coming next it's it's it's like you know when you it's hard to
Dan Bongino
run at someone else's pace even when you run at a pace you can handle because you're afraid you don't know if he's going to speed up or slow down but the guy running in the lead he has no problem it's the same way in commentary but when you're on the receiving end of it
Justin
as a guest in a guest chair you have no idea where they're going to go with this so like you
Dan Bongino
just said you have to do extra
Justin
homework and that kind of leads me to my next question how with these debate segments that you're just an expert at on cnn this explosion in ai is going to make these debate sessions going forward for liberals who don't bedrock themselves in ideas but in emotion and faith in this ideology ai and the and the interwebs is going to make this really really difficult going forward i
Dan Bongino
heard you say in a debate internet
Justin
do recently and of course you were
Scott Jennings
right yeah well i think you're exactly right and you know one word you use there that i think is so true is emotion you know what i find in in our debates is that they're they're ruled by emotion you know they're ruled by vibes and then that leads them to say things that they want to be true but aren't true at all that they you know it sounds true or it should be true but is it true and you can get yourself in trouble in debates going down those emotional rabbit holes but the thing is they want to drag you into that they you to be emotionally outraged all the time they want you to forget that as conservatives we tend to be ruled by logic and facts and analysis that's how we you know sort of process the world but they want you to throw all that aside and get into the emotional mud pit and roll around in there with them and and that's that's their best venue and so my job is to keep it keep it above that on the ai piece i tend to agree with you and and that segment you're referring to was against paul bagala he was talking about the pete heth lobster the great lobster hoax of twenty twenty six you know and he was literally like talking about you know pete hegset ate all the lobster himself and i finally just said you're gonna get killed on the internet for this you know and but that's happened a few times where i've heard somebody say something and i know immediately oh my gosh within five seconds somebody's going to have posted a compilation of debunking of this and you know it never fails and so i'm with you that they're going to have to watch themselves because they're going to embarrass themselves repeatedly because you got a whole army of people out there on the internet who are more than willing and ready to fact check them and
Justin
embarrass them we're talking to scott jennings for those listening on apple and spotify host of the scott jennings show spectacular show check it out just look them up you're going to find him everywhere on socials follow him you will not be disappointed if you don't know him already which is hard to believe earlier in the show i i addressed exactly this point i played a clip of joy reid and you know joy reid who's not known for being you know bedrock the staple of truth or anything and she made some ridiculous point how there were basically no taxes before the
Dan Bongino
twentieth century so i did a really simple thing scott i went to google
Justin
gemini so you can't accuse me of using like grok like an actual sensible right wing ai it's left wing i use it for a reason and i
Dan Bongino
said were there any taxes before the twentieth century and of course it listed them out but that's what i'm talking
Justin
about how going forward guys like you who stick to just facts and don't get emotionally embedded in arguments are going to look like rock stars on tv but it is difficult debating liberals i've
Dan Bongino
been doing it for a long time
Justin
not nearly as well as you and i mean that i'm not playing humble you're just really really good at it
Dan Bongino
but it's hard to debate the modern liberal because their principles are like you know they're like these you just lick their finger and they see where the wind is blowing you were debating a
Justin
maryland representative who i know from my time in maryland politics johnny oleshevsky and
Dan Bongino
he's debating you about trump raising taxes and i'm thinking as i'm watching this wait i thought the democrats liked raising taxes what am i debating again because if i'm the conservative i'm like i
Justin
don't like high taxes i like growth inducing low tax rates like what is
Dan Bongino
your principle like i know what i believe in what the hell do you believe it makes it really hard to
Scott Jennings
debate yeah that debate was interesting on two levels one he seemed to be saying he wanted low taxes but at the same time he was arguing that trump had somehow raised taxes when you and i both know he cut taxes and it was the democrats who block voted against the big beautiful bill last summer which included the tax cuts for working people and it prevented the tax rates from going up from the twenty seventeen tax cuts democrats block voted on that and so it was strange because he was taking a position that was somewhat unorthodox for his party but at the same time steeped in a completely untrue statement and so i had you know you're dealing with you're dealing with two strange things i find that happening all the time i was doing a debate the other night about gas prices everybody wants to talk about gas prices because of the iran war and i hear all these democrats out here you know going crazy about gas prices and i finally said to one the other night wait a minute it was just five minutes ago that you guys wanted higher gas prices because climate change you wanted to bring about the end of the internal combustion engine that was your position that gas should be more expensive so people would stop driving now you're worried about gas prices what you'll find i think is that they just make arguments that they think sound good in the moment you know oh this is going to be a good tactical item but it's not really moored to any values or to anything they said two months ago six months ago last year the other thing that drives me crazy about these debates is they all seem to think that all of american or human history started when donald trump popped onto the scene they can't seem to recall or remember anything that ever happened before trump last night we were debating some of the language and rhetoric around the iran war and of course pete hegseth and others the president has invoked god and prayed to god you know to protect our troops and so on and they're like wow you know no one's ever invoked god you know this way for military operations and lydia actually was on with me and she said does no one remember george washington kneeling in the snow at valley forge i mean they can't remember a time before trump but of course that's because they want to say everything he does is unprecedented it's never happened before you know this is outrageous but if you just go back a little bit in history or you do a quick google search you'll find that no you know trump often is doing things that many other presidents have done or you know and and but they don't it's like that's all washed away for them and it i don't know i think it makes for weak debating points when you can't seem to remember any american history at
Dan Bongino
all yeah it does and and the
Justin
thing about the you know the trump i call the democrat like show your ass theory how they just have to like one up themselves with anger and rage to prove to the base they hate trump even more you're like you know trump's a racist no he's a
Dan Bongino
super racist no he's like a grand wizard in the kkk he's like a hitler nazi who's also in he's a he's co joined both movements and it's like it gets to the point where you're like guys i mean is this even real listen i get it he speaks discursively he you know he uses language that hasn't been used for i really don't care i don't apologize for
Justin
anybody he doesn't need it i'm a queen's kid just like he is i
Dan Bongino
grew up around this stuff but the
Justin
commentary that you know what annoys me the most is the fascist and the
Dan Bongino
no kings nonsense scott if this guy's
Justin
a king or a wannabe monarch he's
Dan Bongino
certainly the worst monarch we've ever seen there's an immigration issue in minnesota he sends tom homan in the situation's diffuse
Justin
they agree to a template moving forward
Dan Bongino
the supreme court makes a bunch of rulings yes he complains a little bit i don't blame him he has an alternate position but he follows the supreme court i mean if this guy's a racist and a fascist too he's really shitty at that too i mean he got the historic number of black votes for a republican i mean all of this stuff like we said before is just based on an emotional response to trump none of it's really fact based
Scott Jennings
he has always followed court rulings i mean look even on the tariffs you know he imposed tariffs the supreme court tossed out most of the tariff regime but what did he do he accepted that and then he pivoted to another statutory authority it's not made up you know there are laws to which he attaches his policy views and when the courts rule in favor fine against fine you pivot to something else but it's all very normal and it's all very attached to the way things normally work look even on you know department of justice stuff you know there have been grand juries that haven't gone along with the department of justice when it comes to indicting certain people if he were a king if he were a fascist if he were an authoritarian we wouldn't even be talking about grand juries but we have a system the system works and then you you move on to the next i was on tv the other day with a congressman from northern virginia and it was the morning after the no kings day and he said oh i went to six no kings rallies yesterday and i said well that's a lot of free speech for a country with a king that wouldn't allow you to go out and protest so much that's a great point but it's that's how how silly sort of this no kings branding really is trump is actually i think yes he has like a lot of presidents tested or pushed the boundaries of executive authority but when it comes right down to it he's followed the law and he's followed the court rulings and i don't i don't really think that is in dispute but in their sort of alternate reality in their narrative all of that is happening and i think that's really one of the hardest things about the debating space is i find that the left lives in such a tight ideological bubble right now they only know what they know and they only know what they told each other and they have constructed this alternate reality where a bunch of stuff is happening that's not actually happening but in their mind it is that you know they have a reality and then you and i have the reality and and so when those worlds collide it often makes for sort of strange interactions
Justin
in these debates you know it does and just speaking quickly about the the emotional left rather than the policy based fact based left you know you see in virginia you see spamberger she gets elected she runs as a moderate she's the obviously the governor right now you know they're all term limited to one
Dan Bongino
term so she gets in she runs
Justin
as a moderate democrat or pretends to be gets into office immediately she's going after the guns a ridiculous gerrymander and listen everybody gerrymanders i get it i'm not telling you republicans on this is an absurd gerrymander even by by the worst standards right yeah it's insane must like wipe out the republican party in like a five thousand one hundred forty nine state so she gets into office so i covered earlier how her approval rating is now the lowest we've seen of any governor in modern times in virginia she's been in office scott you know and she hasn't even been in office half a year yet not even
Dan Bongino
close and this just goes to show you like when republicans get into office
Justin
and do republican things rudy giuliani in new york you know ronald reagan donald trump they don't go away you see
Dan Bongino
more of them you saw reagan reagan
Justin
bush right when democrats get into office and do democrat hardcore democrat stuff they're
Dan Bongino
immediately unpopular and they're wiped out of
Justin
office in one term like joe biden
Dan Bongino
i mean they don't have anything to
Justin
run on other than like you said superlatives and fancy language yeah rush i
Scott Jennings
think used to say that democrats could never tell you exactly what they're going to do in campaigns because they would never get elected so they're forced to come up with these narratives for their electoral themes in the case of spamberger it wasn't just her you know the entire media pushed this theory that she was like some moderate you know deal making you know bring everybody together you know they did the same thing on biden in twenty twenty oh he's a return to moderate politics and bring everyone together that was baloney you know he wins the election and immediately he outsources the entire domestic agenda to the bernie sanders wing of the democratic party same thing for spamberger in virginia i'm a moderate i'm a moderate and takes over and within three months it's every extreme partisan left liberal thing you could imagine taxes social issues guns won't cooperate with ice to get violent illegal aliens out of virginia and now this redistricting debacle i mean they're trying to take virginia to a ten to one map ten to one in a state that has a heck of a lot of republicans in it after complaining about redistricting herself before and and as you pointed out her approval ratings have cratered people of virginia have noticed they've been duped there is no moderate and that's a good lesson for what democrats well i'm i'm sure going to argue in the fall whatever they tell you they're going to do in the fall whatever moderate they they claim to be in the fall in these purple districts around the country don't buy it this party is extremely partisan it's extremely left it's extremely progressive it's extremely radical and nobody that comes along and says oh i'm going to be the moderate voice they have no power and they have no ability to
Justin
change this tide yeah i'll change direction a bit last question for you i really do appreciate your time what a great interview you did not disappoint at all scott when you know when you really blew up years ago and i just saw your clips everywhere we kind of addressed it earlier i'm an investor in the space not just a content creator i love platforms free speech platforms specifically i love giving platforms to people who even hate my guts because i think it's a good exchange of ideas and we saw what censorship does so you explode onto the scene i'm not kidding when i tell you i must have received i don't know ten fifteen
Dan Bongino
calls from radio station owners syndicators sales agents book people i have a book publisher how do we get scott jennings how do we get scott i said i don't know call scott jennings like i'm not his agent no you surely you know him i said i know of him but i'm not his agent
Justin
everybody loved scott jennings the reason i bring it up is you now have your own show the scott jennings show you radio you're on tv you're on
Dan Bongino
every clip i've seen the value of
Justin
live content going forward is going to explode geometrically with this ai slop out there going forward in the very near
Dan Bongino
future it's going to be hard to discriminate real scott jennings from fake scott
Justin
jennings your opponents are going to put stuff out there the ai slop is
Dan Bongino
going to be ridiculous so live content
Justin
is going to be amazing so for you with the scott jennings show these chat rooms and all this stuff just your thoughts on the political commentary ecosystem going forward how important it's going to be to be live so they actually know it's you i totally agree with
Scott Jennings
you that's why this live debating show that we're doing i think is working because it's live you know i don't have a teleprompter i don't have a script but but it is alive authentic in the moment reaction to you know what's going on out there at the table but it's me and it's happening in real time we don't tape that in advance that is a live you know reaction to what's happening and i think audiences love it and the off the authenticity piece of it cannot be understated this is why you're so successful and why people love you you're one of the most authentic political commentators you speak from the heart you don't need a script to do it and that's and so when people are able to perform and do that live and in the moment i think audiences attach themselves to that and so i think both in politics and in media the era of kind of the scripted puppet is over and the people who can actually do it live do it authentically those are the people who are going to succeed if you've learned any lesson from donald trump in the last ten years it's that we now live in the era of authentic communications and the people in politics who can do it the people in media who can do it those are going to be the ones that are successful not just as they post up against the inauthentic as trump did defeating kamala harris that was the ultimate you know authenticity versus inauthentic kind of tilt but also as we post up against as you pointed out all of this ai generated crap and so my advice is follow the people who are authentic follow the people who can do it without a net and follow the people who show up prepared i think as conservatives those those are that's how we're going to succeed and and i'll just throw in one final note do it with a with a full heart and a and a little bit of a smile you know i think we're at our best when we're happy warriors that's a lesson of ronald reagan and and because the left is so i mean they're enraged they're full of rage they hate the country we live in right now they're all too happy to tell you what a terrible country this is and what a terrible origins we have they're just so full of rage and anger and as conservatives if we're true and if we're happy and we're those happy warriors i think more americans are going to gravitate towards our arguments if that's our attitude but again it all goes back to this live live authentic ability to talk to people in the moment it can make you very successful and as you have well learned given all your success oh it's
Justin
so true i always use that walter williams quote when well excuse me milton friedman quote when he told walter williams you know when you talk about libert talk about it with a smile i
Dan Bongino
bring that up all the time we
Justin
live in the greatest country on earth
Dan Bongino
at the greatest time to live in
Justin
said country with the most amount of freedom and prosperity we have an unbelievably powerful military insulated by two oceans like
Dan Bongino
honestly my grandfather fought in the battle of the bulge my uncle was shot
Justin
in the back in vietnam saving his friend's life he's on that wall like what are we complaining about the flat
Dan Bongino
screen doesn't work one night like i'm sorry like our forefathers and grandfathers handed us down this beautiful diamond of a country and that's why i get sick of the doom and gloom i get it there are problems to fix we
Justin
need to talk about them openly and
Dan Bongino
honestly but this constant doom and gloom
Justin
everything sucks all the time it's like
Dan Bongino
man let me tell you something you should travel the world brother i've been to something like forty countries there's nothing
Justin
nothing like this zero you will never see anything like it so it's incredibly well said scott where can the audience find the show and you on social i know they're going to want to
Scott Jennings
track you down absolutely so on x i'm at at scott jennings ky and i use that handle for instagram and the other social media sites scott jennings ky the ky is for kentucky which is where i live and where i'm from my radio show airs live every day from one to three eastern on salem radio terrestrial we're on i think almost four hundred radio stations around the country it also goes up as a podcast every day the scott jennings show so you can get that on apple or or spotify i did write a book that did fairly well called a revolution of common sense which was about president trump's first hundred days back in office for trump two point zero that's still out there on amazon and if you haven't read it i encourage you to pick it up but those are the principal ways and even if you're not a regular cnn viewer i try to get those clips up on social media the next day as soon as i can so people can see some of these debates we're having because you won't believe honestly if you've not seen some of this you won't believe some of the arguments that the left is making and some of what i have to deal with on a nightly basis it's highly entertaining but highly illuminating about where they want to take the country
Justin
folks check this patriot out it is really difficult to go on live television not knowing what's coming at you next every night and be consistently right this guy's batting average it's like a thousand it's amazing scott jennings thanks so much for your time don't be a stranger i really i really enjoyed this interview a lot so thanks for your time
Scott Jennings
buddy thank you dan thanks for the conversation and thanks for everything you've done for our country and as i said i'm a huge fan it was an honor to be here and i hope
Justin
to see you soon thank you sir talk to you soon that was scott jennings folks man that was a that may be one of my favorite interviews even jasmine's in there like yeah man he was good certainly didn't disappoint one go support at all go support him pick up his book follow his show
Dan Bongino
thank you so much for tuning in
Justin
hope you enjoyed the show today yesterday
Dan Bongino
was kind of a lighter news day
Justin
so we have the two hour block we don't always go the entire two hours i'm just not going to talk for the sake of talking some days like today show goes a little longer but again if we have stuff we
Dan Bongino
feel really passionately about we're gonna talk
Justin
about it i don't talk about things i'm not passionate about fellas who puts the show together justin who yes what
Dan Bongino
has two thumbs this guy i have
Justin
great producers these are the best tech
Dan Bongino
guys in the business but the reason i put my show together is because
Justin
i have to talk about stuff i really care about it's really passionate to me i'm not just gonna throw slop in there just to keep talking i okay so great show today appreciate you being here make sure you check out haley at noon rumble dot com haley and then vince every day at eight am eastern time vince calling ace rumble dot com vince and please download the
Dan Bongino
rumble app follow the dan bongino show it is free free or you can
Justin
just go to rumble dot com bongino on the web click that follow button we really appreciate it we're up to three point six four million followers there we really appreciate it i'll see you back here tomorrow at ten am hey
Vince
there i'm vince i'm haley caradilla host of vince host of scrolling with haley
Justin
you can always catch my show right
Vince
here right here on the bongino report
Scott Jennings
live eight am eastern weekday mornings weekdays
Vince
at noon if you miss it no worries the show will always be right here and anywhere you find a podcast thanks for watching
Date: April 7, 2026
Host: Dan Bongino (with Justin, and guest Scott Jennings)
Duration: ~90 minutes (excluding ads/outros)
Main Theme:
A wide-ranging commentary on U.S. foreign policy (with a focus on Iran), the frustrations with NATO allies, American cultural and political divisions, the media's shifting narratives, and how technology—especially AI—is reshaping fact-checking and political discourse. Features a highlight interview with CNN's Scott Jennings.
Dan Bongino delivers his trademark, no-nonsense take on current political and cultural issues. This episode centers on American military actions in Iran, frustrations with NATO’s tepid support, the American contribution to global security, and the shifting ground of domestic politics. Bongino argues that modern technology—instant fact-checking and AI—is making it increasingly difficult for the left to maintain inconsistent narratives. Special attention is given to the idea that Americans should "get a refund" from international alliances that don’t reciprocate.
A key portion of the show features a lengthy, insightful interview with CNN commentator Scott Jennings, who discusses debating progressives, the value of live unscripted debate, and the role of authenticity in politics and media.
Frustrations with NATO: Bongino argues that the U.S. does most of the military, law enforcement, and intelligence legwork for European allies—without adequate reciprocation.
Trump and Rubio on NATO:
Economic Costs: Peter St. Onge segment noting the U.S. has spent an equivalent of $10 trillion (2026 dollars) supporting European defense since NATO’s founding.
Trump "maximalist" approach:
"He takes a maximalist position…Meanwhile in Donald Trump’s head is a ten percent tariff but he knows the country doesn’t want one hundred percent tariff…In the end, he gets what he wants." ([04:08], Dan Bongino)
On leakers:
"Leaking classified national security secrets is not protected speech or whistleblowing. It’s a crime, dude…" ([13:21], Dan Bongino)
On NATO:
"It’s time to get a refund from NATO...let us know, and we can slowly part ways…You start paying for it then, paying us back." ([16:56], Dan Bongino)
"If NATO is just about us defending Europe, but them denying us basing rights when we need them, that's not a good arrangement..." ([31:04], Marco Rubio)
On Democrat policies:
"The reason the Democrats suck so bad...is when you conduct a natural experiment of people who live in California with high taxes versus Florida with no income tax, people leave California to go to Florida." ([42:00], Dan Bongino)
Highlights:
This episode is a comprehensive, high-energy tour through the major flashpoints in American politics—foreign policy (especially Iran), NATO frustrations, the domestic impact of partisan governance, and the technological shift making it harder for misinformation or inconsistency to go unchallenged. The show’s final hour is an exceptional masterclass on being a conservative voice in hostile media environments, courtesy of Scott Jennings. The episode asserts that facts, history, and evidence are on the side of the political right, and that technology is only magnifying this advantage as voters can check claims in real-time.
For further listening, check Dan Bongino’s show archives or follow guest Scott Jennings on X @ScottJenningsKY.