What Is Going On Here (Ep. 2515)

Summary

The Dan Bongino Show

Episode: What Is Going On Here (Ep. 2515)
Date: May 14, 2026
Host: Dan Bongino, with guest Congressman Brandon Gill
Main Theme:
A raw, urgent discussion on internal dysfunction and distractions within the MAGA movement during a time of critical geopolitical threat, the dangers of media leaks, the reality of government fraud, and the imperative for unity and clarity with the 2026 midterms looming.

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers around Dan Bongino’s forceful pushback against sensational rumors, internal party leaks, and divisive narratives at a moment he considers historically consequential for America. With President Trump abroad handling sensitive negotiations with China, Bongino slams those inside the movement spreading unverified or false stories—especially about supposed “rogue agency” actions like a rumored CIA raid—which he brands as “total bullshit.” He contextualizes these distractions amid the grave global risks and emphasizes solidarity, clarity, and truth as the nation approaches the midterms. Congressman Brandon Gill joins to discuss explosive revelations about government fraud, party discipline, and the legislative stakes ahead.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Uncomfortable Truths and Calling Out Distractions

• Bongino’s Tone: Fiery and exasperated, he opens by warning that the episode will create a “shitstorm” within the movement by addressing “uncomfortable truths.”
  • "There's no one more aligned with the new MAGA agenda than me... But sometimes the truth is uncomfortable." (03:35)
• Central frustration: Internal leaks and false stories (like the “CIA raid” on the DNI’s office) distract from critical issues and are weaponized by rivals.

Notable Quote:

"One, it's bullshit. Capital B, capital U, LL, S, H I T. Total bullshit." – Dan Bongino (07:49)

2. Debunking the CIA Raid Rumor

• What happened: Rumors circulated that the CIA raided the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI). The DNI’s office (Press Secretary Olivia Coleman) confirmed publicly that the story was “false.” (05:33-05:51)
• Bongino & Gill’s Argument:
  • Leaks of this nature erode trust, especially when the President’s focus should be squarely on global threats.
  • Internal leakers are accused of “running a political operation from inside the White House against the MAGA movement” (08:22-08:44).

Notable Quote:

"Ladies and gentlemen, listen to your boy Dan... when you become the distraction, we have to undistract people from the distraction and call out the distraction so additional distractions don't happen." – Dan Bongino (01:13)

3. Geopolitical Stakes: Trump in China

• Backdrop: President Trump is overseas, negotiating with China in what Bongino calls “the most important trip of his presidency”—addressing cyber threats, trade, and the risk of nuclear escalation.
• Key Takeaway: The internal party squabble and leaks come at the worst possible time.

Notable Quotes:

"The President's overseas in the most important foreign trip he's ever going to take and these leaks are going out in the media... Why is this even in the fucking media?" – Brandon Gill (11:40–11:57)

"Life as you know it will change forever. Your kids will be pulled into a foreign combat zone... That's what the President's dealing with right now." – Brandon Gill (15:41)

Timestamped Segment:

• China discussions, nuclear threat, fentanyl, and oil: [13:28–15:07]

4. Reaffirming the Need for Unity and Agency

• Bongino's Rebuttal of the ‘Trump Has No Agency’ Narrative:
  • Rejects claims that President Trump is a puppet led by rogue aides/agencies.
  • Calls on those dissatisfied from within: “Resign. I don’t understand.” (08:06)
  • Urges party members: embrace the President’s agenda or “get out.” (21:21)

Notable Quote:

"Stop with the nonsense. Stop with the leftist stuff. Stop with all this bullshit. Educate your kids." – Dan Bongino (51:26)

5. Government Fraud Task Force—Brandon Gill Interview ([66:01 onward])

• Gill’s Role: Chairing a House task force investigating large-scale welfare and Medicaid fraud, specifically revealing a billion-dollar-per-year scam in Ohio involving shell LLCs diverting Medicaid funds.
• Broader Mandate: Exposing institutional abuses beyond just classic fraud—includes left-wing social experiments funded by taxpayer money.
• Need for Legislative Power: Emphasizes importance of holding the House to keep subpoena and investigatory powers (80:47–81:03).

Notable Quotes:

"We're beginning this, the work on this task force by going after this fraud scandal in Ohio...we believe that there's about probably a billion dollars a year that's being wasted in this program and being defrauded from taxpayers." – Congressman Brandon Gill (71:58–73:10)

"It's not just a matter of even if we're down by one seat, it doesn't matter. The chairmanships are wiped out. You guys become ranking members instead." – Dan Bongino (80:53)

6. The Stakes of the Midterms and Down-Ballot Discipline

• Binary Choice Argument: Even “bad” Republicans are preferable to any Democrat—control of the House, investigations, the future of Trump’s agenda hinge on every seat.
• Risks if Democrats Win: Impeachment of Trump, radical legislative changes (court-packing, new states, open borders etc.)
• Primary vs. General: Save ideological fights for primaries; in general elections, focus on unity.

Memorable Exchanges:

"You have a shitty choice in some of these districts. In a not so great Republican or a communist Democrat or a Democrat who's going to empower communist. That's it. That's the only choice you have. The time for these fights is in the primary." – Dan Bongino (40:29–41:41)

"Once the primaries are over, it's Team Red and Team Blue, and you gotta pick which side you're on... Any Republican from the most conservative to the most liberal is going to be better than any Democrat by a significant margin." – Rep. Brandon Gill (84:41–86:34)

7. Dangers of Division and the “Divide Plan” ([52:13–53:48])

• AI Allegory: Bongino plays a viral “rat trap” parable warning about infighting—people in power benefit when factions below destroy each other.
• Message: Don’t fall for traps/divisions set by rivals or bad actors. Always seek the truth; use discernment.

Notable Quote:

"Those sitting at the top do not fight themselves. They simply create an environment where the people below begin fighting each other and eventually destroy one another... Many people spend their entire lives trying to defeat others without realizing that they themselves have already become part of someone else's game." – AI Narrator (52:47–53:48)

8. Hamas, October 7, and the Fight Against Anti-Semitic Violence

• Bongino shares harrowing details of the October 7 Hamas attack on Israel (29:16 onward):
  • Rape, torture, and intentional dehumanization, as reported by survivors and forensic evidence.
  • Condemns left-wing voices (e.g., Hasan Piker) who downplay or excuse such atrocities.

Notable Quotes:

"Her dress was pulled up and she wasn't wearing underwear. Not because it burned, because there was no trace....a review by forensic pathologists confirmed these details..." – (29:45)

"When you're given the choice between savages and civilization, you'll never go wrong with civilization." – Vince (32:19)

9. Unity, Truth, and Redemption

• Personal and Spiritual Reflections:
  • Bongino references “People of the Lie” by M. Scott Peck: evil starts with falsehood; truth is the only answer.
  • Shares Brian Welch's testimony: "You're not beyond salvation." (60:32–62:56)
• Closing Message: The only way out of internal chaos is to anchor in truth and resist the chaos-sowing tactics of adversaries.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• [07:49] Dan Bongino: "One, it's bullshit. Capital B, capital U, LL, S, H I T. Total bullshit."
• [11:56] Brandon Gill: "Why the fuck is this in the media?"
• [21:21] Brandon Gill: "No more distractions. Get with the agenda or get out. Go get to the legislative branch. That's okay."
• [29:45–31:13] Harrowing survivor testimonies from the October 7 Hamas attack.
• [32:19] Vince: "When you're given the choice between savages and civilization, you'll never go wrong with civilization."
• [40:29–41:41] Bongino lays out the binary choice for November elections.
• [52:47–53:48] AI Narrator ("Divide Plan" rat parable)
• [60:32–62:56] Brian Welch testimony (spiritual redemption)
• [71:58] Congressman Brandon Gill: "We believe that there's about probably a billion dollars A year that's being wasted in this program and being defrauded from taxpayers."

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Segment Timestamps

• 0:35 – 10:00: Setting the table—inside-party distractions, CIA raid rumor debunked, Trump’s agency defended.
• 10:00 – 20:14: China trip explained; risks if distractions triumph; importance of party discipline.
• 20:14 – 40:29: Anti-Semitism, danger of “rogue” elements, the stakes of leaking/division during “existential threat.”
• 40:29 – 66:01: Discussion expands to midterms: primaries vs. generals, court-packing threat, ideological unity.
• 66:01 – 91:03: Exclusive interview with Congressman Brandon Gill; government fraud task force; why House majority matters.
• 91:03 – End: Closing arguments and reminders, reflection, and audience calls to action.

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Flow and Utility

This episode, raw and at times profane, is a passionate call for internal party discipline, a focus on truth over factional rumor, and a dire warning not to be distracted as historic, existential challenges gather. It underscores high-stakes foreign policy and exposes systemic government fraud, all tied to the political imperative for Republican unity in the midterms. Bongino and Gill’s vivid exchange is both a reckoning for MAGA loyalists and a rallying cry for focused, informed action.

The clear message: Set aside internal squabbles and prioritize the fight against genuine threats—both foreign enemies and the corrupting influence within. The future, Bongino insists, may literally depend on it.

Transcript

[Dan Bongino]

All America, all the time. Sit down, buckle up and get ready for the Dan Bongino show.

[Vince]

Ah.

[Dan Bongino]

All right.

[Vince]

Ah, boy. I. I don't want.

[Dan Bongino]

What, Dan? You don't want to do the show? No, no, I love doing the show. I don't love doing these shows. But why are you doing it?

[Vince]

Because I have to.

[Dan Bongino]

But why would we want to be here if you don't want to do this show? Because we have to.

[Vince]

You have to, too.

[Dan Bongino]

What are you talking about? I'll tell you, folks, this is one of those uncomfortable truths times where I. There's no one more aligned with the new MAGA agenda than me and this show. You know the reason we have the biggest MAGA live stream out there?

[Vince]

It's not an accident.

[Dan Bongino]

It's because we don't bullshit people and

[Vince]

we tell them uncomfortable truths.

[Dan Bongino]

I know some of this show, especially

[Vince]

the beginning, is going to cause a

[Dan Bongino]

bit of a shitstorm. And I have been trying to avoid

[Vince]

these kind of shitstorms because they're a distraction.

[Dan Bongino]

However, when you become the distraction, we have to undistract people from the distraction and call out the distraction so additional distractions don't happen. I got a lot going on today. It's going to be a big show. I got an excellent congressman from Texas. He's been on the show before. Congressman Brandon Gill talking about just some

[Vince]

explosive information about this fraud. Government task force.

[Dan Bongino]

The scope of the government fraud is so beyond your imagination. Even people who trust very little in government. So don't miss that. We got that coming up later. I'm just going to get right into it today. Today's show, brought to you by American Financing. Summer expenses in 2026 are stacking up

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[Vince]

It is another time for choosing.

[Dan Bongino]

Now, are we interested in hearing uncomfortable truths? Uncomfortable truce? Are we interested in results and the truth? Are we interested in being like Democrats? And the dance and the dancing and the bullshit and the performative acts. What do we want? I know what I want and I'm never going to spin or do this dance otherwise.

[Vince]

Okay?

[Dan Bongino]

Results matter. The dance has got to stop. I say that because yesterday, again, a grenade gets thrown inside the Republican tent with again, the Donald Trump has no agency theory that Donald Trump has no control over his administration and that there was somehow a. You can dance with the euphemisms all you want. There was a raid by the CIA and I don't know, I don't know what there was. A thousand different words. You get the point. There was a raid by the CIA and the DNI's office. Listen, I've been out of government for a couple of months now, but I'm pretty sure, like that would be a big deal considering that the Central Intelligence Agency is run by John Ratcliffe, who's a really good guy and is a strong ally of President Trump's and who's been in intelligence positions before. And I'm thinking to myself, having been in sit downs at principal deputy meetings with Ratcliffe, Director Ratcliffe of the CIA, many times.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

That's kind of weird. They're not even a law enforcement entity.

[Dan Bongino]

Like, how would they raid or invade or steal away.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I don't know what euphemism you wanted. How would they raid the dni? That's not even a thing. They don't have any law enforcement powers. You tell them to go pound sand. They don't have subpoena power. The CIA is an intelligence agency.

[Dan Bongino]

It's not a law enforcement entity at all.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

So I saw this story yesterday.

[Dan Bongino]

And thankfully, the DNI's press secretary, the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, the Press Secretary, Olivia Coleman, put out this tweet last night. This is false. The CIA did not raid the DNI's office. May 13, 2026.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

But you start to wonder, like, how did this even get out there?

[Dan Bongino]

Ladies and gentlemen, listen to your boy Dan.

[Vince]

This is hard.

[Dan Bongino]

I know.

[Vince]

This is. Listen, this is not a comfortable show.

[Dan Bongino]

I don't want to do shows like this because there are a thousand and one things going on other than debunking fake news from inside our own tent.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You're telling me. Just to be clear, someone leaked this to the media.

[Dan Bongino]

It made it out there into the media ecosystem.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Someone did it. You're telling me. Donald Trump, CIA raided or invaded or whatever.

[Dan Bongino]

Unauthorized entry. I don't know. Play the euphemisms games all you want.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Donald Trump's dni, because those two entities are under the President. They're not legislative branches, they're branches of the Executive office of the President. How many times do I have to tell you guys? Please, there are.

[Vince]

Listen to me, please. I'm trying to help.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm only trying to help. This is all going to make sense

[Vince]

over time, and I promise, even my harshest critics.

[Dan Bongino]

And it's okay. It's okay.

[Vince]

It's a republic. You're allowed to criticize, me included.

[Dan Bongino]

Even my harshest critics.

[Vince]

You're going to have to acknowledge I was right. I've been dealing with this for well over a year now.

[Dan Bongino]

Anytime you hear a story about rogue agencies and attacking each other, the FBI

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

attacking the dni, cnia, CIA, ABC attacking xyz, it is all a derivative of the same.

[Dan Bongino]

Donald Trump has no agency. There are people on the inside just

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

taking control of this, you know, weak guy and dog walking him around. Really? Really. Why would you be.

[Dan Bongino]

One, it's bullshit. Capital B, capital U, LL, S, H I T. Total bullshit.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

And secondly, even if it was true, which it is not, then resign. I don't understand.

[Dan Bongino]

Like, just leave. I can't deal with the President. So weak. I can't do it.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Why would you not? Why the leaks? Why using the media to do this all the time and then backtracking later? Why would you do that? Maybe if you've been listening to my

[Dan Bongino]

show, you already know the answer to that. Because as I've said to you, there are people out there already running a political operation from inside the White House against the MAGA movement from inside the government. Right now, they're planning to run themselves. And all of a sudden you're seeing

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

this plethora of news stories, everybody's a hero. Listen to me, folks. What happened yesterday is a disgrace. What is the point of electing Donald Trump twice? Probably three times. What is the point of electing Donald Trump if you really believe he has no control over his people? Why would you elect him? What evidence do you have of that? You really think Patel, Ratcliffe, Gabbard, they're

[Dan Bongino]

all just running their own ops and the President doesn't. He's just.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Hey, hands off.

[Dan Bongino]

Just do your own thing, man. Like, it's like whatever. It's like a syndicated TV show and something.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

We're just going to pay it and

[Dan Bongino]

ship it off later. You guys do what you want. Watch reruns of Seinfeld all day, folks. I'm getting tired of this shit.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

If you work for the eop, the

[Dan Bongino]

President and his executive office, and in

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

his Cabinet, you're not there for you. You're not there for you. Do you have any idea how many

[Dan Bongino]

times, whether it was anything from the

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

pipe bomb case to Epstein to anything else? I wanted to respond to things that

[Dan Bongino]

I knew were bullshit.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

It's not about you. You did not get elected. The president did. If you were a legislator, a United

[Dan Bongino]

States senator, or a congressman or woman,

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

yes, you are represented in your state or your district. That is your job. Your job isn't to represent the White House. It's not.

[Dan Bongino]

Hopefully, you align with the agenda, but

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

you don't have to.

[Dan Bongino]

You're elected by a group of people within the United States, but a subset.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

The president is elected nationally. If you choose to work for him,

[Dan Bongino]

you abide by the Constitution first.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

But it is generally assumed that you're aligning with the president's agenda or you wouldn't take the job. The President's overseas right now.

[Dan Bongino]

President Trump is overseas right now dealing with the most existential crisis of our time. That is the rise of the CCP in China.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

He's dealing with our most. At the same time, our most dangerous yet most important geopolitical rival, and they are a rival. They even.

[Dan Bongino]

They would quietly acknowledge that they are not our buddies.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Okay? However, we can't ignore China. We can't pretend. And by the way, guy in the chat, I'm getting to them. Believe me, I'll get there when I'm

[Dan Bongino]

ready to get there.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

There are people out there who still don't understand what's going on. You got China out there with nuclear

[Dan Bongino]

weapons and AI capability that could probably

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

shut down at some point in the very near future and is certainly a threat now to all kinds of systems

[Dan Bongino]

in the United States.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

The President's overseas in the most important foreign trip he's ever going to take and these leaks are going out in

[Dan Bongino]

the media about, my gosh, the CIA raided the deal.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

They didn't raid. We didn't say raid, we said this. Why is this even in the fucking media? Sorry folks.

[Dan Bongino]

Language alert.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Why the fuck is this in the media?

[Dan Bongino]

Sorry. Not sorry.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Are you shitting me, man? President Trump right now is got the entire globe's future in its hands. If we screw this thing up with China and it results in thermonuclear war or the shutdown of our entire freaking electrical grid due to a cyber attack, we're all effing dead, folks. And we've got bullshit leaks from a bunch of kids pissed off inside the administration that what their agenda is not being. You didn't get elected. It's not about your fucking agenda. It's not about you, man. You didn't get elected to shit.

[Dan Bongino]

Here's Fox covering what's going on in China right now. We've only got international trade to deal

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

with, cyber threats, the straits, nuclear weapons

[Dan Bongino]

in Iran, Hamas terrorists.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You know, China's building next generation stealth fighters, like kind of important stuff. And this fucking kitty bullshit is going on.

[Dan Bongino]

Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I'm sorry man.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You know I hate this Republican on Republican bullshit.

[Dan Bongino]

But this has got to stop.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

The endless leaking to the media. Oh my God, look at us. We're such heroes. Everybody's fucking us over, really. And Donald Trump's White House has no idea.

[Dan Bongino]

Here's a Fox News report this morning.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I want you to just listen to this about a minute about what's being discussed in China right now while kids are leaking bullshit to left wing media

[Dan Bongino]

people that love the distraction. Check this out.

[Haley Caradilla]

They talked about expanding market access for American businesses into China. Remember the President brought this delegation of 16 CEOs from different business and tech backgrounds. They also talked about wanting more progress on stopping the flow of fentanyl. That's something the President brought up. Now the Chinese purchases of American agricultural products was also something that was brought up in these discussions. And President Xi expressed interest in purchasing more American oil to reduce China's dependence on the Strait in the the future. That's a really big takeaway. So we're going to focus on that as well. Also, both countries agree that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. And after reading through this readout, there was really nothing in there that said that China was going to help pressure Iran in any way to ending the conflict. We were wondering if that was going to come up.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Oil, nuclear weapons, Iran, industrial control systems,

[Dan Bongino]

cyber attacks, world trade, starvation, World War

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

3, like these are kind of important things. It's only the most important trip President

[Dan Bongino]

Trump is ever going to take.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

The I am not being hyperbolic. The history of the rock we call Earth, which I'm holding in my hands right now, if you're watching, is in the President's hands. If we screw this up, it will result in what Ayesha Hosny and Fox

[Dan Bongino]

just said, a conflict.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Put up the just the news article conflict. Turns out China threw a bit of a curveball and Xi is now warning Trump of possible conflicts if Taiwan is mishandled.

[Dan Bongino]

Leaders agree on the Strait of Hormuz.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Folks, there's been a lot of amazing things that have come out of this trip already. However, one of the definite curveballs has been this unbelievably aggressive posture. I think surprised everyone with President Xi

[Dan Bongino]

now basically saying, amen, don't mess with us on Taiwan.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

This, ladies and gentlemen, this is a not new position, but certainly a more aggressive one. Do you have any idea what this conflict would look like between us and China? Folks, life as you know it will change forever. Forever. Your kids will be pulled into a, you know, foreign combat zone with a country of a billion plus people with nuclear weapons and next generation fighters. That's what the President's dealing with right now. That's what he's dealing with. And we've got a bunch of dipshits inside the leaking stories about a CIA raid that even the DNI saying didn't happen. So where did it come from?

[Dan Bongino]

Folks, I say this yesterday because,

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

and

[Dan Bongino]

I'm just going to tell you right now, everyone's welcome. In my chat, nobody pushed harder. And believe me, the history books will document all of this. Your dopey opinion. If you're one of these like haters out there who just doesn't know shit about anything when these people, you just hate the Jews. So that's what you use that as a proxy for attacks on me and others who call that stuff out, the history books are going to be clear on this. Nobody pushed harder and more aggressively on a lot of what happened with this Covid malfeasance than me and Cash Patel. Nobody. Anyone telling you otherwise is totally full of shit. We were very aggressive. You already saw what's going on with an active criminal investigation. You saw the results where we there

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I'm just going to leave it there

[Dan Bongino]

because I don't want to contaminate the process. But there is a process. These investigations have been going on for a long time.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Why would you wait for the president to go overseas to China when he's negotiating the future of the globe to push one of your people from the DNI's Digg Directors Initiative Group into a hearing? Listen, Rand Paul and Ron Johnson can

[Dan Bongino]

do what they want. They're in a legislative branch.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I have no problem with the information and definitely no problem with the transparency. I only have a problem with the timing. The president's overseas in China, and then just hours later, a story the CIA raided the dni. Can you have. Do you have any idea what the president's team must be thinking right now in China now? You did this. Ladies and gentlemen, there is an active criminal case right now about this. Has anybody thought this? I can't understand from the. This is where I'm like, you can't win with some of these people. The doomers and we hate the Jews people. You just can't. On one hand, they're like, I can't believe nothing's happening. Then you have arrests and indictments that are happening. And you're like, I can't believe that's happening. We want to, like, slow down what's happening by holding a hearing while the president's in China, while there's. What if I'm not telling you there are arm. But what if there are cooperators out there who are now watching all this stuff and are now getting spooked? Like, has anybody thought about this?

[Dan Bongino]

The dni, Tulsi Gabbard and that office. You got to get control, man. It's not about you. You're not a legislator.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You're not a judge.

[Dan Bongino]

You're not in a separate branch of government.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Congress wants to hold hearings.

[Dan Bongino]

That is their purview. The Senate wants to hold hearings.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

That's their purview. We have separate and equal branches of government.

[Dan Bongino]

Why?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I don't understand. Again, my only beef with this whole thing is the timing of was a total, complete distraction yesterday. The CIA raid story and all this from the most important geopolitical meeting of our time. Your kid's future is quite literally.

[Dan Bongino]

And you know I hate the freaking word literally because it's literally overused.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

It is quite literally the most important meeting this president has conducted.

[Dan Bongino]

And we've got these stories floating around. I'm sorry, man, but I just try to avoid this stuff. But I didn't bust my ass over the past year trying to clean this place up, get results going, and try to enact the President's reform agenda, the border agenda, the violent crime agenda, the de weaponization agenda.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

To just sit here and watch as

[Dan Bongino]

a bunch of, like, bullshit news stories constantly leak out to the media.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Oh, this person's effing us over. This person raided. Nobody rated it. I don't know what you're talking about. We are dealing with unprecedented global threats. Unprecedented global threats. The President has your kid's entire future on his plate. Right now we've got basically two and

[Dan Bongino]

a half years left of Donald Trump, the. I don't even know how to say it.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

The President with the biggest moose nuts in American history. That's the only way I know how to say it.

[Dan Bongino]

Right now.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You've got two and a half years of this left. No more distractions. Get with the agenda or get out. Go get to the legislative branch. That's okay. You think the President doesn't know any of this?

[Vince]

RWR777. Who's the leaker?

[Dan Bongino]

I don't know, folks.

[Vince]

I'm not in government anymore, are I?

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not. I don't know. I'm just telling you. Like I, I'm.

[Vince]

I woke up this morning and I even told the guys. That's why I titled the show, like,

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

what the hell's going on here? There's an active criminal investigation. Do you not know that?

[Dan Bongino]

A lot of agendas, folks.

[Vince]

A lot of agendas.

[Dan Bongino]

And I'm going to tell you again. Do you have any idea how many times I had this impulse to kind of want to defend myself against the bullshit? It's not about you, man. It's not about you told them I

[Vince]

would do the year, did the year,

[Dan Bongino]

and then you come out and you can say what you like,

[Vince]

but this ain't right. It's not right.

[Dan Bongino]

We're dealing with unprecedented threats right now. Unprecedented threats, meaning without precedent. There is nothing like this. There was not a nuclear weapon in World War I, the War of 1812,

[Vince]

the Revolutionary War, and the beginning of World War II.

[Dan Bongino]

We weren't dealing with massive cyber tools to shut down the grid. We weren't dealing with globalized trade like to the extent on the margin we are now. The President has got your life and your kids. Life lives in his hands right now in China.

[Vince]

We didn't need this, man.

[Dan Bongino]

And I'm going to tell you something. If you think that was like a really cool thing to do yesterday, just. That's fine. You're allowed to have your Opinion. You're not a MAGA person.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Just stop pretending.

[Dan Bongino]

Stop pretending. Oh, dude, enough for transparency. Oh, go fuck yourself.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Are you shitting me? Are you for real? Do you have any idea what we did in there? How do you think these criminal investigations started?

[Dan Bongino]

You're just full of shit.

[Vince]

Sorry about the language, man. I get it. I'm really some. Not usually.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm trying.

[Vince]

Today I didn't even. I just. I had to just do queen stand. I know, it's. I get it, man. I understand. Jasmine's very disappointed. She is. Jasmine's like. I've never heard Jasmine curse at all. It's amazing.

[Dan Bongino]

Paula either.

[Vince]

Well, one time, yelling at me for something, that was it. It was just one. I don't know what I did, but.

[Dan Bongino]

All right, you tell you what. I. I got a lot more to

[Vince]

get to, like, a lot, lot more.

[Dan Bongino]

I want to show you on the other side some of the unprecedented sober Jade. I'm sick of it too. Yeah, me too.

[Vince]

Me too. President knows exactly what he's doing.

[Dan Bongino]

Let's please stop pretending otherwise. Stop pretending like he doesn't know what

[Vince]

he's doing and he's just this old

[Dan Bongino]

man, the puppet man. You never worked for him.

[Vince]

Or if you did, you're just lying about him.

[Dan Bongino]

Because that's not what I saw. All right, let me take a quick break here.

[Vince]

And on the other side of this, I want to show you something I saw yesterday that is just so deeply disturbing. And it just kind of goes back to uncomfortable truths we have to talk about. You gotta this. You're not gonna like what's coming up next, but you need it. You need to hear this. All right, quick break.

[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Congressman Brandon Gill]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Congressman Brandon Gill]

So super sure has a fine print

[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

Folks.

[Vince]

As I said before, this isn't the time for screwing around and leaks to

[Dan Bongino]

the media and fake news stories and all. This is not the Time for that. Let the president come back from China, get together, and we can all kind of walk through things, what happened on the trip, how we're going to handle it. But we are dealing with an unprecedented threat. And there are a group of people out there with an agenda who want to make. They want to soften the threat. You got your pro China people out there.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Well, they don't.

[Dan Bongino]

They're really not going to.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

They're really only interested in global trade.

[Dan Bongino]

No, they're not. President Trump fully understands we have to deal with China. They're not going anywhere.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

They're not going to give up and wave the white flag.

[Grainger Announcer]

We.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

We don't want to start a nuclear war with them, but we still have to be tough. There are people who want to take the edge off that. There is also a group of people,

[Dan Bongino]

and they were on the left, but now some of them are trying to infiltrate their way into our tent. Some of them expose themselves. I already said they were Democrats.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

However, there are some of these people out there who are trying to soften

[Dan Bongino]

the edge of both the Iranian terrorist, Shia and Sunni terrorists, and Hamas and

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

claim somehow that, oh, these are just

[Dan Bongino]

freedom fighters, they're political organizations, all that stuff.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

All. Oh, really? Hamas? Are we sure about that? There's a fascinating story in the Wall

[Dan Bongino]

Street Journal that came out yesterday. It's a new report issued about the October 7th tragedy.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

And I want to read to you

[Dan Bongino]

in all its horror.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

If there are kids around, you may

[Dan Bongino]

want to turn off the show right now. Here is the truth about Hamas. They put out this report about the rape, torture, and all the physical atrocities that went on on October 7, and

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

yet people are still denying what happened then.

[Dan Bongino]

Here's a quote from Ros Cohen, who was there.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Quote, I saw them raping her.

[Dan Bongino]

He was at the Nova music festival where 396 people were slaughtered. Roz Cohen also said, then they murdered her and then they raped her again. Eden Wesley, who came to the music festival to rescue a friend, found and filmed a naked, burned body. Quote, her dress was pulled up and she wasn't wearing underwear. Not because it burned, because there was no trace. Her legs were spread, her genitals were exposed. A review by forensic pathologists confirmed these details. Because I know there's the Jew haters out there who are going to say,

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

oh, just making that up.

[Vince]

Hamas is great. They're just freedom fighters, really.

[Dan Bongino]

Raping dead bodies, that's raping. Raping dead people.

[Vince]

That's you.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

What about raping men, too? Raping men, too.

[Vince]

That happen yeah, yeah, that, that happened. These are freedom fighters.

[Dan Bongino]

A male says he was gang raped at the festival site, providing medical records and a detailed account. I thought they were making this stuff up.

[Vince]

These are your freedom fighters?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

They laughed.

[Dan Bongino]

He said they were really pleased, as if I was their sex doll.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

The Hamas invaders had been given operational materials.

[Dan Bongino]

Listen to this.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Including Arabic to Hebrew phrases lists. Like they had little cards ready to go for the raping. Here were some of the Arabic to Hebrew phrases so everybody knew what the

[Dan Bongino]

Hamas terrorist, scumbag, demon dog, savages were, were doing.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Here were some of the phrases.

[Dan Bongino]

Quote, take off your pants, slash, take your clothes off, quote, lie down and quote, spread your legs. The planned sexual degradation speaks to years of Palestinian propaganda that treats Jews as subhuman.

[Vince]

You're typical freedom fighter, I guess, right?

[Dan Bongino]

That make you a little bit uncomfortable?

[Vince]

You see what we're dealing with, with these Islamo fanatics?

[Dan Bongino]

They have Arab to he Arabic to Hebrew index cards to prepare themselves for the raping of the men and the women. They're your freedom fighters.

[Vince]

Let me tell you something to all the fuck sticks on the other side.

[Dan Bongino]

When you're given the choice between savages

[Vince]

and civilization, you'll never go wrong with civilization.

[Dan Bongino]

I. I know I've got a lot

[Vince]

to answer for in front of the pearly gates. Believe me, I'm not your moral compass. And if you think so, you're making a huge mistake.

[Dan Bongino]

But I know for sure.

[Vince]

And I'm not certain about a lot, but I know for sure and I'm on the right side of this one. Index cards. They had little index cards ready to go just in case people who only spoke Hebrew didn't understand what they were telling them to do before the raping

[Dan Bongino]

and the killing and the decapitations. You see the video with the shovel and the heads?

[Vince]

Probably look that up. You're freedom fighters, right, Folks, these are the real fights right now. Not fake news stories about raids or

[Dan Bongino]

whatever the hell you want to call it. Why are we wasting time on this? Why are we wasting time on this? And I applaud the DNI's office for

[Vince]

correcting the record at least, but we

[Dan Bongino]

need to find out who leaked that.

[Vince]

Exactly who leaked that, because this is a big deal.

[Dan Bongino]

Because we're fighting a real enemy right now. And if you think for a second I'm just going to sit on the sidelines and this growing problem of anti Semitic violence is just going to go away on its own. People said that before and it didn't, it didn't end well.

[Vince]

I'm not sitting on any sidelines ever.

[Dan Bongino]

And you can rage up the foreign bot army.

[Vince]

We're used to it. We've heard it all before. We get it.

[Dan Bongino]

I've seen every single thing you put.

[Vince]

It's keep. We get it, we get it.

[Dan Bongino]

You want to become like these guys on the left. I told you in the beginning of the show, it's a time for choosing. It's not a time for meandering around. It's not a time for letting the other guy handle it. I want to applaud Lawrence Jones.

[Vince]

Just put that media thing up for a say.

[Dan Bongino]

Lawrence Jones from Fox for taking a stand to Lawrence Jones, a good man, host to Fox and Friends, deep seated cancer. Fox's Lawrence Jones sounds off on right wing anti Semitism.

[Vince]

They're trying to walk into our tent, man.

[Dan Bongino]

Throw a, throw a grenade in there. Don't let them do it. You want to be like these guys? Here's a CNN report about a left wing former rich kid lunatic, Hasan Piker, total bag. He can say what he wants, by the way, but I want. This guy's like a hero on the left. You want this. This guy. You want this guy and guys like them to start in. You know what they call the horseshoe theory, where eventually parties unite around hating people. Whether in the past, whether it was people who are black or Hispanic or Jewish or whatever it is, you want people to unite. And by the way, it applies to Muslims too.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

They, they deserve to be treated like human beings.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not trying to, you know, do

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

this whole milk toast, you know, how

[Dan Bongino]

I started this segment.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

But this applies to any group of people. Collective anger at a group of people

[Dan Bongino]

is an entryway into mass violence and mass death. Collective anger. You are responsible for other people just because of skin color, religion, whatever it is.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

That is the entryway and the ticket

[Dan Bongino]

to death and destruction every single time. Here's a CNN report about Hasan Pico.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Keep in mind what I just showed

[Dan Bongino]

you about the rapes, the rape index cards the women found with their legs spread, burned beyond recognition. The men who were raped, the men by multiple freedom fighters or whatever you want to call them, your lunatics on the left.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Listen to the CNN report. This guy.

[Dan Bongino]

You want a guy like this in our tent? Nah. No, no, I told you it's going to be an uncomfortable show. I'm sorry, but this is the syrup of ipecac we all need.

[Vince]

Check this out.

[Hasan Piker]

Here's some of what he actually has said about the depravity of the October 7 terror attack. The deadliest day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust. Quote, it doesn't matter if effing rapes happened on October 7th. Like, that doesn't change the dynamic for me. The Palestinian resistance is not perfect. Now let that sink in. Hassan Pakar is excusing sexual violence by Hamas terrorists. He also claims Hamas is, quote, a thousand times better than Israel. Hamas is a designated terror organization, not just by the US but by the eu, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, just to name a few. And here's what Piker said about the horrors of September 11, 2001.

[Dan Bongino]

America deserved 9 11. Dude, it. I'm saying it like, we totally brought it on ourselves, dude. Holy. We did. We did.

[Vince]

Fuck you, pussy.

[Dan Bongino]

Fuck you. Go fuck yourself, chump.

[Vince]

You deserve 9 11. We deserve 9 11.

[Dan Bongino]

It doesn't matter if rape happens.

[Vince]

Fuck you. Go fuck yourself, pussy.

[Dan Bongino]

Really? I dare you to go into a little event, go to, like, a smoker

[Vince]

with a bunch of cops and firemen

[Dan Bongino]

there and get in the middle of the ring at the smoker and tell them. Tell. Tell that to a bunch of the cops and firemen. Keeping your stupid ass safe, you fucking pussy. Go ahead, go do it. Tell them, 9 11.

[Vince]

We deserved it.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Try it. Show some balls.

[Dan Bongino]

Grow a pair of moose nuts.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Try it.

[Dan Bongino]

I'd like to see how that works out for you. You seem to be okay with violence and all. I mean, you just said it doesn't matter if rapes happen. I promise you, it matters to the people who are raped and murdered and their families. You ever been bent over with a rape card, Hasan? I hope not. I don't wish violence on anyone. And I'll tell you what, if it happened to you, I certainly wouldn't be on the air saying it doesn't matter if raped happened. I'd be the one calling out, I don't care who did it.

[Vince]

That's what you are. That's what you are, pampered little rich asshole,

[Dan Bongino]

sitting there with your little leftist buddies campaigning with this zero, who apparently is a physician, has been telling people he's like a big physician guy, but then has not really done a lot of, like, is anything that's really done a lot of, like, clinical work on patients or something. He's campaigning with you, this candidate for Senate, Michigan. This is what we want in the midterms. We want a bunch of crazy people because we don't want to show up because Donald Trump is on the. But you want to elect a guy campaigning with this asshole? Folks, I'm sorry, man. I'm not letting this movement fall apart, man. I'm not. I'm not letting it move. I don't care if the audience dwindles to zero. I don't.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I hope it, but I don't care.

[Dan Bongino]

More than I care about not letting this movement fall prey to a bunch of ravenous rabid dogs

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

when given the option of savages and civilization. You'll never go wrong with civilization, folks.

[Dan Bongino]

We got choices coming up, I'm telling you. And I'll get into this with Congressman Brandon Gill in just a few minutes. Not every candidate running around the country in November on the Republican ticket is a diehard conservative. Hello, Captain Obvious, I get that.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

But when the primaries are over, you have a binary choice. This is not Romper Room or Sesame street or freaking Teletubbies or the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. This is the real world. And in the real world you have a binary choice. In some districts it's a really shitty Republican versus a communist Democrat who's going to turn over chairmanships to Democrats if they win the majority, impeach President Trump and basically let people like Hassan Piker's influence infect the entire U.S. congress. You got to vote, man. You got to vote. Sometimes your choices are level 10 decisions too. You have a shitty choice in some of these districts. In a not so great Republican or a communist Democrat or a Democrat who's going to empower communist. That's it. That's the only choice you have. The time for these fights is in the primary. That's the time. We are dealing with level 10 crises right now. You want people like this guy running a chairmanship. I'm going to give you the worst example possible because it's going to matter.

[Dan Bongino]

You've got a Republican out there in your district, whatever. East Tuna Fish, District six. It doesn't matter. Candidate John Smith, he's a wishy washy Republican who's only with us half the time.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I get it. He wins his primary even by one or two votes and everybody's pissed off. I can't believe we're still. I'm pissed off too. I wish you would had a more conservative guy. He's running against the Democrat who goes in campaigns with Hasan piker like 9,

[Dan Bongino]

11, doesn't matter or whatever he said there we deserved it even worse.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

That's your choices. I'll take the guy got half the time over this dipshit. And then even worse is if that one guy determines the House majority. Let's say you don't vote for not

[Dan Bongino]

so great Republican John Smith. In protest and you elect Democrat Jane

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Smith and that one vote determines control of the House. You may think I was only voting in my district. No, you didn't.

[Dan Bongino]

You just voted to hold the turn

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

the entire House of Representatives and the chairmanships and subpoena power over to lunatics like this. Here's Ted Lew yesterday. Ted Lieu, lunatic leftist. You want this guy sitting in the chairmanship spot talking about extreme measures, talking about packing the court. This is what happens if you do

[Dan Bongino]

not vote Republican in protest.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You're going to get Donald Trump impeached and you're going to get a bunch of crazy people subpoenaing some of you to appear in front of Congress cuz

[Dan Bongino]

you dare to abide by the Constitution. Check this out. This is a radical Supreme Court that is making decisions simply to benefit Republicans. It's going to usher in massive Supreme Court reform when Democrats take control. And that will be because of the actions of extreme political actor John Roberts and this partisan Supreme Court extreme actions.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

He's openly talking about packing the Supreme Court. I just played for you video the other day of Obama talking in 2020

[Dan Bongino]

about packing the court.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

D.C. statehood, Puerto Rican statehood. Folks, you understand what your country is going to look like. I get we're going to get stuck

[Dan Bongino]

with some turkeys in Congress.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I get it, I get it.

[Dan Bongino]

Not everyone's going to be Brandon Gill. Not everyone's going to be Mike Lee.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You're not going to have that everywhere. But I tell you what, you are

[Dan Bongino]

going to have a political baseball hat to this baseball bat to the side of the head when you elect Democrats like Ted Lieu who go back to

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

re weaponizing everything we just spent the last year trying to clean up. You want this guy as speaker of the House, Hakeem Jeffries. Listen to this guy already going back to it's Jim Crow. I mean, this is all Obama identity politics, left wing identity politics. You want this guy running the House because you're protesting a vote somewhere? No, that's not a thing, man. That's not a thing.

[Vince]

Check this out.

[Ted Lieu]

Because we know this unprecedented assault on black political representation, the likes of which we have not seen since the Jim Crow era, the ghost of the Confederacy has afflicted the United States Supreme Court majority and is invading and haunting the nation right now. And we take that seriously. Which is why Democrats are committed to launching a decisive and overwhelming response in advance of the 2028 election.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

A decisive and overwhelming response. What do you think he's talking about? You think he's talking about a snowball Fight. He's talking about completely hijacking the judicial branch through packing the courts, hijacking the

[Dan Bongino]

legislative branch through adding states that will reliably vote Democrat with two Democrat senators.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

He's talking about massive voting changes to the system to ensure fraud dominates the election. Census changes so we can count illegals. Open borders to let tens and millions of more in. It will change the country forever. There will be no getting it back.

[Dan Bongino]

Why did he sound like, you know, Manichean fights?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Because they are. We didn't ask for this fight. Republicans just want to be left alone. Let me pay my taxes for the military and the roads.

[Dan Bongino]

Keep them low and reasonable.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Give me good police officers and, you

[Dan Bongino]

know, a decent federal workforce.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Give me a strong military, a nice court system in case, you know, businesses

[Dan Bongino]

are, you know, start to take advantage of us and.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

And just get the out of my life, man.

[Dan Bongino]

Like, muting myself now after this show,

[Vince]

which is, like, hilarious.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

We didn't ask for this fight. Make elections fair. Like, ask people to show up and just show.

[Dan Bongino]

And it's actually them voting.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

We didn't ask for this stuff. Give our kids a decent school.

[Dan Bongino]

You're the ones on the Democrats. I constantly encroaching on our values.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Now, do you want Hakeem Jeffries or do you want Ted Lieu? Because make no mistake, even if your

[Dan Bongino]

congressman sucks post primary.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Because pre primary.

[Dan Bongino]

Yeah, get him out. Get a more conservative person in there, please. I've had my own beefs with these guys.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

However, post primary, your congressman can be. Joey Baga sucks. Joey Bag of sucks. Could be the worst Republican congressman if the Democrat gets in there and he's the one person who tips the balance of the House. Hakeem Jeffries is the Speaker. The Democrats control everything. The entire House.

[Dan Bongino]

Do you want them in chairmanship spots? It's a simple question. Or do you want this guy? He's coming up in a few minutes. Congressman Brandon Gill. Here he is up there. This is the kind of guy we have out there.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

We can get this guy in chairmanship roles.

[Dan Bongino]

Even if your guy's not that great. It's not just about your race.

[Vince]

It's about control of the entire House.

[Dan Bongino]

Got him. Coming up in a minute. But I wanted to show you this on. He's questioning this Capitol Hill guest up there about, quote, scientific spending.

[Vince]

And I had to use the air quotes.

[Dan Bongino]

Unlike lgbtqia one plus I double A ABC def two plus spirit.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I've lost track of all boys.

[Dan Bongino]

Transgender, pregnancy.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You watch it yourself.

[Dan Bongino]

Even he has to. Like, he doesn't even Know what? He can't even figure this thing out. Check this out.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Adapting an LGB plus inclusive teen pregnancy prevention program for transgender boys. I can't even say this without laughing. Do you think that that is a useful form of our tax spend?

[Haley Caradilla]

I am not familiar with that grant, but I think bench research, government investment in scientific and pharmaceuticals.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Teen pregnancy for transgender boys. Do you think that that is a useful spend of our tax dollars?

[Haley Caradilla]

I think government investment in all kinds of scientific research is of the utmost importance.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Including. Including pregnancy prevention for transgender boys. Okay,

[Vince]

All I ask is post primary. Listen to me.

[Dan Bongino]

Post primary, that is important. Even if your guy's not that great

[Vince]

or your woman, guys like that are.

[Dan Bongino]

And if we lose, the majority being in the minority in the House, ask your congressman what's it like to be in a minority. It sucks. It sucks. Control of the floor, control of the entire passing of the bill process, control of subpoena power, it all goes away. President Trump will be impeached. Folks. Why are you trying to scare us?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Because some people need to be scared because they don't understand what they think.

[Dan Bongino]

My guy just sucks. I'm going to stay home.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

It's not about your guy post primary. It's about control of the entire House.

[Dan Bongino]

It's like if cabinet members had a. If cabinet members had to undergo an election. They obviously don't, but I want to make a point here.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

It's like you don't like the.

[Dan Bongino]

Whatever, the VA secretary. I'll just throw something out. Great. But you don't like him, so you just. You don't vote for Donald Trump in the presidential.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Like, it doesn't even make sense.

[Vince]

Folks, we don't have to live like this, okay? We don't have to live like this. Please don't become the left conspiracy theories. But you know, this anti Semitic bullshit,

[Dan Bongino]

creating a bunch of stupid people, Victim classes, identity politics, people in boxes, union, non union, Muslim jubilee. Everybody fight each other like it's a freaking, like, steel cage match in the old school. Wwe.

[Vince]

We have agency and so does Donald Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

God has blessed every one of you with this thing in your skull. A cerebral cortex, a medulla oblongata and a cerebellum. And it's the most powerful computer on earth. Should tell you something that we've been around quite a long time. And despite all the energy we can muster and all the human collective brain power in the history of sentient beings, we still haven't been able to replicate the power of one human brain. If that doesn't speak to you to the omnipotent power of God. I don't know what does.

[Vince]

Why can't we recreate this? It's just a bunch of neurons, right? Maybe it's something more special. You have agency, you have control, and so does President Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

Stop with the nonsense. Stop with the leftist stuff. Stop with all this bullshit. Educate your kids.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Teach your children.

[Dan Bongino]

Well, as I said, education is the only way out. Please don't fall down this rat hole, folks.

[Vince]

Never fall into traps set by others. And yesterday was a trap and a

[Dan Bongino]

lot of people fell for it. Find a way out immediately. There are a bunch of people out there pulling you into an information bullshit vortex.

[Vince]

Please don't fall for it. Use that God given most powerful computer, your brain.

[Dan Bongino]

Use it and say, am I being played right now? I want to show you this video

[Vince]

I found yesterday on X.

[Dan Bongino]

It's kind of, I think like an AI generated video, but it's good,

[Vince]

conveniently

[Dan Bongino]

about rats and how you should never

[Vince]

fall into traps set by others.

[Dan Bongino]

There's a reason people are doing this. They're throwing a grenade in our tent. So we, all of us start attacking each other.

[Vince]

Don't fall for it. Scrutinize everything. Check this out.

[AI Narrator]

Farmer threw a dead pig into a dry well. After a short while, 70 or 80 mice jumped into the well to eat it. After finishing the meat, they realized that the walls of the well were so steep that it was impossible to climb out. Within a few days, hunger turned the well into hell. To survive, the mice began killing and eating each other. After half a month, only one mouse remained in the well, its eyes red like blood. Then the farmer lowered a rope, pulled the mouse out, and released it back into the field. Did the farmer's heart melt? Not at all. Because this mouse had become used to eating its own kind, it no longer ate grain. Instead, it started hunting other mice like a mad creature. This is called the Divide Plan. Those sitting at the top do not fight themselves. They simply create an environment where the people below begin fighting each other and eventually destroy one another. And the truth is, many people spend their entire lives trying to defeat others without realizing that they themselves have already become part of someone else's game. So never fall into traps created by others. And if you do get trapped, don't fight. Find a way to get out.

[Vince]

Your way out is just to always seek the truth.

[Dan Bongino]

And I'm not trying to be like

[Vince]

Emily Dickinson here folks, or Plato.

[Dan Bongino]

I literally mean like find the truth. Go out and do just a tad

[Vince]

bit of homework on it, and you'll

[Dan Bongino]

find out that a lot of this

[Vince]

stuff you're being told is total bullshit

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

meant to divide us all because people

[Dan Bongino]

have their own agenda for the midterms in 2028 and elsewhere.

[Vince]

Fine.

[Dan Bongino]

Then don't work for the President because it's not your time, it's his time.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

And I'm going to tell you something.

[Dan Bongino]

Having worked for this president, this is the most transformative president I've seen since I was young. And Ronald Reagan.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I've never seen anything like it.

[Dan Bongino]

I've never seen a guy with moose testicles like this in my life.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

We've got two and a half years

[Dan Bongino]

and I want every day of the Trump presidency.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I don't want any more distractions and I don't give a shit how many rage bod armies you sick on me. And our supporters, we are still the largest MAGA show out there.

[Dan Bongino]

And I'm telling you like that's for a reason.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Because the people who listen to show

[Dan Bongino]

don't want your bullshit or your distractions. They believe in accountability and they should.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

They believe in results. But the President's producing results every single day. What the hell you think he's doing over there in China right now? What do you think he is dicking around? What do you think he's doing sitting around watching reruns of Happy Days?

[Dan Bongino]

Lucky Trump, right?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You think he's just lucky? All of this shit is just luck. Lucky Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

Jobs numbers great.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Lucky Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

Border shut down.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Lucky Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

Crime rate lowest in U.S. history.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Lucky Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

We finally got China to talk with

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

us about this stuff rather than nuclear war. Lucky Trump. Maduro's in prison. Lucky Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

Iranian mull is dead.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Lucky Trump again. I mean, I learned something new every

[Dan Bongino]

day about Lucky Trump. I found out the other day again. I was today years old when I found out that mass deportations weren't going on.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

That's news to me. Because the left wing media, when we were over at the FBI, was complaining about assets we had dedicated to big mass deportation efforts. So weird. I saw it. You didn't see shit. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Dan Bongino]

This is the nothing is happening trap being set for you by people up top dumping the dead pig in the well, hoping you jump in. Don't jump in the well.

[Vince]

It's a trap. Thank you, Dan. Spinning top in the chat. Don't thank me folks. I promise I'm nobody's hero here.

[Dan Bongino]

I mean it's, it's not like humble brags. I am not anybody's here. I'm just A guy who loves the country. I don't do this for the money. I'm a capitalist. I like to pay my team. It's a business. However, they can tell you as well, I don't need to be here. I could go live my life and

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

sit on the beach and watch freaking

[Dan Bongino]

reruns of Happy Days, but I love this place.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

It's why I went back to serve. I'm not watching this movement fucking fall

[Dan Bongino]

apart like this because of bullshit.

[Vince]

I'm sorry,

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

it's not happening, man.

[Dan Bongino]

And I'm just begging you, please, like,

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

ignore the rage bots. It's all astroturf bullshit to get you like a rat to jump in a well and eat the pig. You're never getting out. You're never getting out. I want to talk to so much more I want to say. But there's a process going on with

[Dan Bongino]

this stuff and it's not fair to do that.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I didn't exit the administration to come

[Dan Bongino]

out and be like the data point guy. The data point, Data point.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

What is it? I don't know. Then just don't take the job. Just cut the shit, man. And do me a favor too.

[Dan Bongino]

I just told you, I'm not your moral compass.

[Vince]

I can't say this enough.

[Dan Bongino]

Nobody's hero. I'm not above accountability myself at all. You don't like something here in the show, let us know, man. But I think it's really important we anchor ourselves not in the small g false gods of the state. It's really important we anchor ourselves in higher values. It's really important that we stay anchored as a country in truth, whatever your religion is. I'm a Christian. I love Jesus and Jesus loves me. And I say it every morning despite my failures. You're not beyond salvation, folks. You're not beyond salvation. No matter how bad of a thing you've done, you're not beyond salvation. I'm not your preacher either, but you

[Vince]

are not beyond salvation. If there is a God, and I

[Dan Bongino]

certainly believe there is, and there's one

[Vince]

bedrock principle of what that God is, it's truth. Because evil starts with the lie. M. Scott Peck has a book believe he's since passed, but it's cinema. He wrote the Road Less Travel, which sold probably like 100 million copies. Who knows? But he wrote another book called People of the Lie. I did not publish the book. It's been out forever. I have no financial interest in it whatsoever.

[Dan Bongino]

Read it, go pick it up on

[Vince]

whatever, wherever you get your books read. People of the Lie by M. Scott Peck. And you'll see how evil starts with the lie and festers like a virus. Truth is the opposite of that. I just want you to listen. This is a clip from tbn.

[Dan Bongino]

You know that band corn, unbelievably popular.

[Vince]

They put on quite a show. People who watch corn shows are just.

[Dan Bongino]

It's like the Grateful dad, like they'll

[Vince]

follow him around the country. This was a really surprising clip I saw yesterday.

[Dan Bongino]

I gotta tell you, it caught me totally off guard.

[Vince]

But I want you to listen to this powerful testimony and remember that there are two sides. There is a yin and a yang and two sides of this coin of morality. There's the people of the lie and the people of the truth. And whenever you find religion and that spiritual marker, I promise, if it ain't anchored in truth, then get rid of that religion right away. Listen to this.

[Brian Welch]

I'm a shell walking around with nothing of substance inside. And I got all kinds of money in the bank, but I just don't want to wake up when I go to sleep. I just wish that I could just stay asleep. The only thing that made me want to breathe and live was my daughter. So I'm thinking I just need to get off the drugs so I could just be the best person I could be for her. But then I would have the thoughts when I get back on the drugs or do another line and that would wear off. I would think, man, she's better off without me. When they asked me to come to church, I'm like, you know, all I was thinking was like Ned Flanders from the Simpsons, you know, and it's like. And then I get there and I hear about this Jesus Christ who's real, the son of God who was here and, you know, died on the cross and raised from the dead and came and would come to live inside of me. Man, the pastor was so cool there, using jeans and regular. He didn't look like holier than thou. And he just said, look, man, if you're on drugs, if you're messed up, if you have a bad marriage, you're alcoholic, you come, come to church while you're messed up. Bring all your garbage here and God will come in and clean you out, you know.

[Dan Bongino]

So he was. It was like non judgmental.

[Brian Welch]

So I was just like, I raised my hand and I went home and I started praying to God. Like, I had been a Christian for 20 years.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

I was desperate.

[Ted Lieu]

Wow.

[Dan Bongino]

I kept going.

[Brian Welch]

I was high on meth going to church, you know, And I'm like, I would tell God like, you know, I want to get off this stuff. You know, my daughter deserves a better father, and I want to be what she deserves.

[Vince]

That's Brian Welch from Corn. You're not beyond salvation. Listen to me. You're not beyond salvation. All those folks out there listening to the show, maybe by mistake, maybe you thought you were tuning into Jon Bon Jovi and you hit Dan Bongino by accident. Happens all the time. Then you're like, man, he's not nearly as good looking as John Bon Jovi.

[Dan Bongino]

I don't have his money either.

[Vince]

But maybe you're here by mistake. But this isn't a mistake. I screw up all the time, but I know God wanted me to tell you this. You're not beyond salvation. If I'm not beyond salvation, you're not beyond salvation either. That kind of stung.

[Dan Bongino]

All right, get it together, man.

[Vince]

Just remember, man, the truth matters. Truth matters. That was a great clip to watch. I had heard of Corn, but I have to tell you that really, I saw that yesterday on X. Just blown away. If Brian Welch can go to church with a meth problem, high on meth, saying, God, take this away from me. I promise, like, you're not beyond salvation either. All right, man, this is like the heaviest show. Jasmine's like, are you gonna be okay?

[Dan Bongino]

I don't know. I don't think so. This is one of those shows I

[Vince]

go home and I sleep like a baby at night.

[Dan Bongino]

It's not a physical exertion show.

[Vince]

But now you understand why. The show had a lot of uncomfortable truths in it. All right, I'm going to take a quick break here, and then we're going to get to an interview I'm really looking forward to. Congressman Brandon Gill is really one of the good guys. It's important we support the good guys. Yes, accountability always matters for me and everyone else, but when people are doing good things, I want to make sure to put them on the show and make sure you hear about what they're doing, too.

[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

I would give you the address to go look by the old house, but I don't live there anymore. You can look at the fruit trees, the lemon tree yourself. It's doing great and I've been gone a long time.

[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

Welcoming back to the street. I really hope he becomes a regular.

[Vince]

Just a rock star up on the Hill. Guy's been doing a great job.

[Dan Bongino]

I told you that earlier before the interview. Congressman Brandon Gill from Texas, welcome back.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Yeah, thanks for having me.

[Dan Bongino]

So I know you've been pushing hard

[Vince]

on this massive government fraud initiative.

[Dan Bongino]

I want to get to that in a second. But just a few opening questions.

[Vince]

First about the news of the week and the month so far.

[Dan Bongino]

Ted Lieu, a congressman I just genuinely don't like. It's not personal.

[Vince]

I never met him.

[Dan Bongino]

I just. Some of the stuff he says and does is just ridiculous. I played a clip of him earlier in the show and they're basically just going for it. Now. They're implying, quote, extreme measures.

[Vince]

He directly said that explicitly.

[Dan Bongino]

But then they're implying they're gonna pack the courts. Congressman, there's really no time in the remaining months. We have until the midterms to recognize

[Vince]

who we're really fighting politically. They're not screwing around.

[Dan Bongino]

They're just gonna go for it if they win.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, whenever somebody tells you who they are in a very straightforward way, I mean, it is wise to believe them. And Democrats actually have talked for several years now about their desire to pack the courts. They think that the rule of law is something that for them is too right wing and would like to undermine our constitutional system by completely transforming the Supreme Court so that it does essentially whatever they want it, so that it becomes a political army of the Democrat Party. And they're saying so pretty bluntly now. You know, in the past, I think Democrats would, would try to walk around the issue or try to not say it, at least not as clearly what they were hoping to do with the courts. But I think they're very straightforward now. If they get in power, if they were able to get a trifecta like Republicans have, we should fully expect Democrats to pack the courts. And that's something, you know, whenever you know what the other side is going to do. I think that should inform the way that we play politics now, Congressman, you

[Vince]

know, obviously every member of the House is up every two years.

[Dan Bongino]

You know, you as well, I think personally, this should be in every single portfolio of campaign ads on the Republican side, their own words, because you know how it is. I mean, the President has a magnetic poll for voters when he's on the ballot.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You've seen it.

[Dan Bongino]

The numbers are ridiculous. People show up who've never voted before. People show up before, have never voted Republican before. Republicans who haven't voted in 20 years show up.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Unfortunately, some of those people aren't showing

[Dan Bongino]

up in the midterms. That's just the data. It's not my opinion, it's just a fact. But when you see ads like Spencer Pratt's running in la, and I don't know Spencer, but the ads have been just amazing, that contrast. Here's what it looks like under current Democrat leadership. And here's what I'm gonna do. I'm stunned how many candidates don't do this. And that's why I say, like, we should play the Democrats own words. Obama talking about making Puerto Rico and D.C. a state in 2020. Ted Lieu, extreme measures like, guys, if

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

you don't show up and vote, this

[Vince]

is what's gonna happen.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Oh, exactly. Packing The Supreme Court, D.C. statehood, Puerto Rico, statehood. Things that they know will rig the Senate in their favor, Mass amnesty for illegal aliens, open borders again, soft on crime policies in American cities, more spending that drives inflation and makes the cost of living significantly more difficult for Americans across the country. I mean, that's the America that we're going to live in if Democrats do take control again. I think that the goal for the Democrat Party is for the entire country to look just like San Francisco and some of the worst parts of New York City. Look right now where you've got strung out drug addicts covering the streets who are getting massive amounts of welfare, whether they're legal or not. Taxpayer funded transgender surgeries for illegal aliens and for children. These are the types of social policies that the Democrats have pushed in areas where they do have control. And whenever you give them control of the rest of the country, that's exactly what we should expect. And I think that we need to be straightforward with voters about that and, and call this out, because whenever you ask Democrats in a clear way, do you believe, for instance, that tax dollars should be used to pay for transgender surgeries for minors, just to use that as an example, very few of them will tell. Will tell you no. Most of them do. And, and they don't want to be clear about that because they know it's insane. They know it's nuts. And most people will, won't want anything to do with them. But that is their ideological view and that is the view of their base who is driving these primary elections in Democrat districts across the country. And that's the direction we're going to go if they take control.

[Dan Bongino]

We're talking to Congressman Brandon Gill for

[Vince]

those listening on Apple and Spotify.

[Dan Bongino]

Congressman, this kind of segues nicely to

[Vince]

an initiative you've really proudly taken on,

[Dan Bongino]

and I'm proud of you for doing it. The government fraud initiative with Vice President Vance. We've seen the Nick Shirley videos. Unfortunately, the Nick Shirley videos are probably just a micro, micro, micro protocolsm of a massive scale problem. I want to bring this up in terms of a video I played of you earlier in the show where you were questioning a woman on LGBTQIA one plus. I've lost track spirit that they added a few extras. I was like indigenous. I think you lost track of it too, because we don't, I don't even know all the, all the fake labels we may go, but they want to spend US Government money on, quote, science of transgender. Was it transgender boys pregnancies, something?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

It's so ridiculous. I played the video, I don't even remember. It was so crazy. But all right, maybe that's not the

[Dan Bongino]

classic definition of criminal fraud, but in the eyes of my listeners, that's fraud too.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Yep. Oh, absolutely. And you know, I think it was pregnancy prevention for transgender teen boys, if I can remember.

[Dan Bongino]

Right, right.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

And at the time, whenever I was asking, I couldn't, I couldn't even refrain from laughing because it's so absurd. But what we're working on is I do believe that that is not only a borderline fraudulent use of tax dollars. But it's an abuse of the American people. It's an abuse of the people who go to work every day in honest paying jobs and make a living and send tax dollars to the federal government every single year and expect those tax dollars to be used for the benefit of the American people, not to fund left wing social experiments that, that by the way, are morally repugnant to the vast majority of people in our country. But what's happened recently is Chairman Comer on the House Oversight Committee, which I sit on, has formed a task force on defending constitutional rights and exposing institutional abuses. I'm going to chair this task force and we've got a broad mandate to go after institutions both in civil society and in government that are abusing the American people and trampling on our constitutional rights. And that could be anything from government agencies that are laundering tax dollars to NGOs that are laundering our tax dollars to two woke woke institutions or businesses who are engaged, for instance, in discriminatory hiring practices, who are, who are saying, we're not going to hire this person because he's a white male, or colleges and universities that are doing the same, entities that are abusing our immigration system. It's a very broad mandate here. But we're beginning this, the work on this task force by going after this fraud scandal in Ohio. So we saw what was happening in Minnesota with the Somali community there. The reality is there is Medicaid fraud and welfare fraud across the country. And I think that the next stop for us is Ohio, where you've got hundreds of Shell LLCs that have been created for the purpose of laundering Medicaid money to a variety of causes that we have no proof of. So for instance, you have a doctor who will write a Medicaid waiver to a family member of an ostensible patient. And what they're getting that money for, what they're getting that Medicaid money for, is home health services, which includes companionship and conversations. You can get paid to go talk to your mother if she's, you know, 80 years old at her house. Well, for this program, there's no verification that anybody who's enrolled in it has any medical training. There's no verification that any of these services are actually provided at all. And there's no cap on the spending. And a lot of these LLCs that are facilitating these payments and acting as intermediaries and are making a lot of money off of this are shady to say the least. So we believe that there's about probably a billion dollars A year that's being wasted in this program and being defrauded from taxpayers. So we've requested documents, information and communication from the Ohio Medicaid Department as well as from the Bureau of Program Integrity in Ohio and from many of these shell organizations who are facilitating this payment. And we're going to run a full investigation and get down to the bottom of it.

[Dan Bongino]

It, Congressman, you on the legislative side,

[Vince]

it is so important. You, Chairman Comer, the Vice president, separate branch of government. But that kind of leadership is critical. You know that it's a massive bullhorn from the executive office of the President there to have that.

[Dan Bongino]

We need that. I've been very candid even the last

[Vince]

time you were here and we discussed this topic.

[Dan Bongino]

The old, you know, big government, liberal and kind of weak kneed Republican model before, before this administration got in, there was pay and chase. Just give them the money, don't worry about the vetting and we can always chase it down later. I've been brutally honest with people, my

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

experience over the last years. There is not enough agents for this. Just do the math.

[Dan Bongino]

There's 30,000 plus FBI employees, not agents, working wise, not counting managers, people out sick, people overseas in foreign offices, counterterror, CI, violent crime.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

There's probably a thousand, maybe just a little bit more available around the world

[Dan Bongino]

to chase this stuff down. A thousand.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

There's probably a thousand cases in Ohio alone through years of just lax vetting in this process. Thank God there are people like you

[Dan Bongino]

out there, and I'm not using his name in vain, who are now saying, hey man, we gotta look at this from the legislative side too.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Hearings, congressional subpoenas, legislation, new vetting process,

[Dan Bongino]

you don't fix it there, there's not

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

enough people to chase them. That's just a hard truth.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

That's exactly right. And that's why we're going to use the full investigatory power that we have on the oversight committee to bring people in for hearings, to subpoena people, to subpoena documents so that we can build a case here. And the goal with all of this is not simply to expose waste, fraud and abuse or improper activity or abuses of the American people, it's to stop it from happening in the future. So that means we would like to make, where applicable and where the facts lead us, we would like to make criminal referrals to the doj. But we also want to make policy recommendations for the broader Republican conference to take up that can help help reduce the amount of fraud that happens in the future. Because to your point, we Certainly want the, the bad guys to go, go to jail if you've been defrauding American taxpayers. We need justice. But in order to stop this from happening in the future, we need real change to a lot of our welfare system or this is going to continue happening. And we cannot be looking at this on the back end year in and year out, over and over again. We need to stop it from happening in the first place. And that is going to require a legislative fix. And that's why, by the way, it's also incredibly important that we're able to keep control of the House so that we can continue doing this work next year and so that we can actually get some of these reforms codified into law.

[Dan Bongino]

Can you, can you? Like a couple of points here. Just having, I think you'd agree, having

[Vince]

Vice President Vance in charge of this brings a massive megaphone. Just kind of said that before.

[Dan Bongino]

But you see the difference, the foil between him and former Vice President Harris. Remember when she was a border czar,

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

like, have you ever been to the border?

[Dan Bongino]

She was like, no, but I've never been New York.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

She didn't even go to the border. Vice President Mann's been in charge of

[Dan Bongino]

this thing for what, a month?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

He's already done multiple press conferences.

[Dan Bongino]

He's in Ohio yesterday, the FBI is up to something like 100 plus convictions. In Minnesota, we just did raids out in LA. I'm sure there's operations going on in Ohio and elsewhere. I'm not telling you the work is done.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

But you see just the leadership difference

[Dan Bongino]

between the Republicans in charge now and the Democrats at the bottom. Boy, it's just so obvious.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Oh, it's like night and day. And the difference is a party who actually cares about solving these problems and one whose goal is to exacerbate these problems. I mean, the goal of the Democrat Party on immigration for four years was to keep the borders open and bring in as many illegal aliens as possible. Our goal now as Republicans in power is one on immigration, to close the border and deport illegal legal aliens. But on fraud is again, to make sure this doesn't happen again in the future and to make sure the bad guys get thrown in jail. And, you know, you've seen already direct action from the Vice President announcing that if you are a state, because remember, one of the problems with a lot of these programs is that you have programs that are administered by states, but they're funded by the federal government. So there's an incentive misalignment that the actors at the state level oftentimes don't have the incentive to make sure that tax dollars are spent wisely because it's federal money, not state money. And what Vice President Vance is saying is that if you're not going to take fraud seriously, we're not just going to keep writing you blank checks for every social program you guys want to promote. We're done doing that. You've got to steward tax dollars appropriately. And I think that message is unique and it's novel and it's something that I think most Americans, the vast majority of Americans, agree with.

[Vince]

We're talking to Congressman Brandon Gill from Texas.

[Dan Bongino]

Congressman, can you walk my audience through? I don't think they understand how important, but they do.

[Vince]

I don't mean to talk down to the audience. You guys get it, but you're an insider.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not.

[Vince]

I was not an elected member of Congress. Gave it a shot. Didn't work out. Did work out for you.

[Dan Bongino]

If we lose the majority, it's not just a matter of like losing votes that make it to the floor.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

You lose the chairmanships too. So you can you just explain to your eyes like how devastating that is. All of this stuff you're talking about,

[Dan Bongino]

subpoena power, all of it, hauling people in front of Congress for investigations that are long overdue.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

That's all controlled by far left Democrats

[Dan Bongino]

like Ted Lieu now, not by Congressman

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Brandon Gill or Comer anymore. It's not just a matter of even if we're down by one seat, it doesn't matter. The chairmanships are wiped out. You guys become ranking members instead.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

That's, that's exactly. Democrats have one more seat than Republicans. They have total control of the House floor. And that doesn't just mean. Your point Bills. It doesn't just mean that we get Speaker Hakeem Jeffries, who is a complete left wing lunatic. It means that Democrats have control of committees like the House Judiciary Committee and the House Oversight Committee, both of which I sit on, both of which have full investigatory powers and subpoena powers and the powers to hold hearings and to bring wit, compel witnesses to come before Congress. The power to subpoena documents and information and communications from any entity basically that they want to. Now, this is a power that you've seen the left weaponize against conservatives pretty aggressively in the past. And it's one that we are using right now to get to the bottom of massive fraud schemes across the country. But all of that work that we're doing to end fraud, to end the improper stewarding of tax dollars, all of the work that we're doing to expose the corruption under the Biden administration for four years, all of that will be done. We will not be able to continue that work if we lose control of the House because Democrats will have control. They're going to use both of those committees to do nothing but investigate and weaponize those committees, to go after every member of the President's cabinet, to go after the President, after the Vice President, and use it explicitly to impact the 2028 presidential elections, to get as much dirt on them as they possibly can, to subpoena every single communication, every single document in the White House, every time, every record, everything, so that they can try to find anything they can to, to slander the President. That's what we're gonna be dealing with for two years if we lose control of the House. And I don't think any Republican wants that. But that's why it really is important for people to get out to the polls in this midterm cycle. The President really is on the ballot because this is gonna make a big deal for the second half of his presidency.

[Dan Bongino]

Oh, he's 100% on the ballot, number one.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

He's gonna be impeached.

[Dan Bongino]

Let's just call it what is.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

They've already said it.

[Dan Bongino]

Many of them have already said it. I'm not talking about just the al Greens, others have already said it.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Ted Lieu is already talking about court packing. They're already talking about impeaching members of

[Dan Bongino]

his cabinet, hauling them. Do you want work on violent crime, the border, our growing economy AI to happen?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

Or do you want people endlessly hauled

[Dan Bongino]

up on Capitol Hill like Bobby Kennedy for getting like food preservatives out of food?

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I mean, cuz that's what's gonna happen. And I get this a lot.

[Dan Bongino]

And maybe hearing it from you, they'll kind of double down. I have to be a kind of a transactional realist with the audience. The time to fight these fights is in the primaries. I love primaries. I think they're a very good thing. Some Republicans say it's a waste of. I don't think it's a waste of money at all. I think it clarifies principles.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

But when those primaries are over, people

[Dan Bongino]

have called me and said, Dan, my congressman, whatever, John Smith, he's really not the strongest conservative. Here's his Liberty score, whatever it may be. I said, listen, I get it.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

But the Liberty score for the Democrat opponent is a negative 422. So you're not, forget your congressman. It's not even about him. You're actually voting to maintain the Trump presidency and to keep chairmanships for congressmen

[Dan Bongino]

like you and others who are good constitutionalists.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

And I know that's not the best answer.

[Dan Bongino]

I get it. I know we want to live in this utopian political fairy tale where everybody's a strong Freedom Caucus type warrior, but

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

that's, that's not the real world. In the districts we live in, once the primaries are over, you gotta just

[Dan Bongino]

at least show up and vote against the Democrats. That's all I'm asking.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Yep, that's exactly right. I mean, once the primaries are over, it's Team Red and Team Blue and you gotta pick which side you're on. And not showing up to the polls means that you're on Team Blue if you're a Republican. And at the end of the day, any Republican, it doesn't matter which Republican, any Republican from the most conservative to the most liberal is going to be better than any Democrat by a significant margin. And, you know, you can look at, on the Democrat side, you know, you'll have Democrats who try to be moderate, they try to be, they try to portray themselves as moderates and somebody who can appeal to the middle. The reality is Democrats are going to vote as a block for whatever far left ideological cause is being pushed at the moment. Whether that's transing little kids or reopening the borders, tearing our border wall down and selling it to China. Whatever it is, every Democrat is going to vote for it. And whenever you know that, and whenever you know that, just getting a, a, a, a, a,. Call it a bad Republican in, can stop that from happening. It is incumbent upon us to get to the polls and make sure that Republicans win the midterms because any, again, any, any Republican is better than what Democrats are going to do. And by the way, if you want to get conservative policies through, if you want to allow the Republican fighters to continue fighting, to continue doing investigations, you've got to just win seats. You've got to win swing seats. And the candidate may not be as conservative as you or I is, but it doesn't matter. We need that seat. We have to win control of the House. So you're exactly right. We can have these ideological battles during the primaries. I think that's extremely important. It really determines sort of the, the makeup of, of the Republican Party or the ideological makeup of the Republican Party. But once that's over, it's the reds and the blues.

[Vince]

Yeah.

[Dan Bongino]

I want to ask you one last question about redistricting, but I just, and

[Vince]

you don't have to comment on any specific person.

[Dan Bongino]

But I call it like the Murkowski Susan Collins issue. Like Susan Collins is probably the, the best you're going to do in Maine. She just is. Is she going to be, you know, Rand Paul on fiscal policy or Mike Lee? She's not.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

But your alternative right now is a guy with a Nazi tattoo who's a freaking communist who's made such incredibly inappropriate comments about women and sexual abuse. Like that does one or the other and like it's your choice. You know, Murkowski is a different issue

[Dan Bongino]

and more of a red state. I wish he'd be primary, but even

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

then, even though I'm not a fan, I'm not voting for the Democrat. Like, forget it.

[Dan Bongino]

There's no scenario by which I'm ever voting for a Democrat where that's gonna

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

lead to an AOC chairmanship or Bernie

[Dan Bongino]

Sanders engaging in full blown Soviet style communism with a salute to match. I'm not doing that. But last question for you. The redistricting fight, just the meltdown on the left just crashing out endlessly. Oh, and kind of blaming the Republicans. Congressman Gill, we did not start this fight. Yes, Republicans and Democrats draw lines. That's been happening since Eldridge Gary. You know, in Massachusetts in the original fight with the Federalists and elsewhere. This is not new. However, the Democrats meltdown over trying a ridiculous gerrymander in Virginia, I mean even by partisan standards, an outrageous attempt to destroy the whole state's Republican Party and then getting wrecked and then acting like the Republicans were the first to do this. I actually appreciate the Republican Party at the state level fighting back pretty hard. I know it hasn't been successes everywhere. There've been some hiccups in South Carolina. Georgia's gonna delay a cycle. But there's no doubt like we definitely took it to the Dems and on net they're melting down for a reason. The reason is we're winning.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Yep, we're definitely winning this. I mean the court ruling in Virginia was a huge win for Republicans and you're seeing more and more states want to redistrict. But the core thing to remember is that this is a war that Democrats started years ago. Republicans did they, they did mid cycle redistricting last cycle in order to try and take control of the House. Now a good way to think about it, I think I represent a district in Texas is I compare the maps in Texas with the maps in California, California and right now post. If you, if you compare how well Democrats in Texas are represented with how well Republicans in California are represented, Democrats in Texas are better represented after our redistricting than Republicans were in California before their redistricting. In other words, gerrymandering even with within those two states are far, far worse in California than it is in Texas. And those are two of the bigger states where you've seen the maps change. So this is a battle, this is sort of a battlefront that Democrats have been on for a long time and they've, they've been quite successful on it. And I think what we're doing is just evening the balance up. You know, you've got multiple New England states that have many, many of whom have large populations of Republicans, you know, 30, 40, close to 50% in some areas that have zero Republican representation. And that's a problem. And these are the things that I think we're trying to, to even out,

[Dan Bongino]

you know, and I always appreciate, you

[Vince]

know, voters out there, listeners and you

[Dan Bongino]

know, holding the government, even us, the

[Vince]

Republican Party to account. You're a representative, I'm, I'm an activist. But still, you know, I was in government too. Accountability matters.

[Dan Bongino]

But I think we do have to say two of the bigger wins are Republicans party have had big, huge wins. Are, you know, dumping the filibuster for Supreme Court justices after, you know, Harry Reid started, like Billy Joel said, started the fire and then regretted that. We were like, you know what, you want to play that game, we'll play the game. And then on redistricting, Eric Holder, Barack Obama doubled down on cutting up districts and we were like, okay, you want

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

to play this game, we'll play it too.

[Dan Bongino]

A lot of work to be done. Accountability matters. But you know, I don't want non stop doom and gloom too. When we get a victory, you know,

[Vince]

we should celebrate a little bit.

[Dan Bongino]

Congressman, you're doing an absolutely amazing job. I just want to tell you on behalf of the audience, we really appreciate you sticking to what you, you know,

[Vince]

you ran on and conservative principles.

[Dan Bongino]

We need more of you in Congress

[Vince]

and you're welcome back anytime.

[Congressman Brandon Gill (continued)]

Well, thank you. Thanks for having me.

[Vince]

You got it. Congressman Brandon Gill, folks, one of the good guys.

[Dan Bongino]

You know, on the radio show and on this show we had a no squishes rule. There was the no squish Swish's rule. Wasn't on this because we didn't do guests, we only did them on radio. But we're transplanting that here. He certainly isn't one of them, one of the good guys. And like I said, folks, I get it. Not every single Republican is going to be as conservative as Congressman Gill or a Mike Lee or something on the Senate side. I understand that. However, they are the worst Republican on planet Earth is probably better than the best Democrat. The battles are in the primaries. They just are. Because you're not just voting for them, you're voting for chairmanships and the President because he will be impeached. Even if we lose the House by one member.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

He will be.

[Dan Bongino]

It's just a fact. The Democrats will vote in lockstep guarantee. Remember I just said that.

[Congressman Brandon Gill]

I hope you don't need to remember

[Dan Bongino]

it because we won the House. But remember I just said that you got Haley Coming up at noon rumble.com

[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince]

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[Dan Bongino]

Hey there. I'm Vince.

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Haley Caradilla]

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[Congressman Brandon Gill]

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[Haley Caradilla]

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[Vince]

Thanks for watching.

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