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What Is In The Big Beautiful Bill Will Shock You - GUEST: Harmeet Dhillon | Episode 50
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President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill passed yesterday and the contents of it are not everything you may think they are. Also in this episode: I talk to Harmeet Dhillon on this and much more.
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Vince
Hey there. Welcome to the Friday edition of Vince, just ahead of an important Memorial Day weekend. I hope you have big plans with the ones you love. Great to have you with us today and boy, do we have a big show for you. I'm gonna go into some of the more details of the big beautiful bill, including some of the grotesque Nazi experiments that the Republicans are stopping here with this big beautiful bill. Thank God that's happening. Also, we're gonna get into what might happen with the auto pen presidency. Is it possible to validate the Biden era? I hope so. We'll explore that. And lefties who break the law, well, they're facing consequences. More on that ahead on Vince. Again, great to have you with us today on the show. Always nice to talk to you whether it's via the podcast or live on rumble.com Vince each day, 10am Eastern worldwide. Great to have you here. Let me thank our sponsors today that make all of this possible, including Ammo Squared. You know about Ammo Squared? 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Now, even before we dive into any more of the details, do you understand what it means if something is Medicaid covered in? It means it's for poor people. It's for poor people in the United States. So the federal government has been funding the sterilization of the poor. The federal government takes your tax dollars and it's been funding genital mutilations on poor people in the United States of America. Now, I'm not sure how much more depraved you can get. Of course, this is part of the pattern with the left, which is all in on killing babies. Also all in on genital mutilation for both children and adults. The bill that the House just passed, the big beautiful bill, forbids this now, says, no more. You can't do that. But what I wasn't aware of was the scale of this, how big this problem was. We knew it was happening. How much is it happening, Breitbart? Olivia Rondo, great reporter reporting the following. President Donald Trump's sweeping tax and spending budget, lovingly dubbed the one billion Big beautiful bill, strips Medicaid's funding for transgender surgeries, a move that's going to impact a large portion of such procedures if it does pass the Senate, and God willing, it does. That reconciliation budget, which just passed the House of representatives by a 2:15,214 to 1 vote, would have initially prohibited Medicaid from just covering gender transition procedures for children only. But on late Wednesday, they added an amendment that got rid of the word minors and under 18 years of age from the language, meaning that no adult will be allowed to do this either. You can't do this to an adult. You can't mutilate their genitals. You can't pump them full of hormones under the guise that somehow they're going to become a different gender. I'm telling you, you were born a certain way, your body's not a mistake, and don't let anybody tell you otherwise. That's abuse. Gender transition treatments that would no longer be covered include puberty blockers, hormone Therapy and surgeries. No mas. A 2023 study. Get ready for the data here. A 2023 study by gynecologists from Columbia University and USC University of Southern California, Los Angeles revealed that a staggering 25% of so called gender affirming surgeries in the United States are covered by Medicaid. 25%. My jaw. She done dropped. 25% of so called gender affirming surgeries, all paid for by taxpayers, covered by Medicaid. Which means that the federal government has been mutilating poor people using your tax dollars. Out of the 48,000 patients who were identified in this report who underwent such surgeries, over 12,000 of them were paid for by federal taxpayers. Medicaid recipients. Medicaid recipients. This is a human rights atrocity. And these are massive numbers. Remember, the left likes to say things like, oh, this is very rare, this never happens. And if it does happen, it's a good thing. They're all over the place in their attempts to justify this cruelty.
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Harmeet Dhillon
We.
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Vince
But the reality is that the problem is so much bigger than they even want to admit. 25% of all of these mutilations paid for by taxpayers. And it also goes back to this other number that stood out to me that we learned in the past year, you know, that in the women's prisons, among federal inmates in women's prisons, 15% of the prison population men. These are women's prisons. 15% of the inmates are, are men pretending to be women. And then of course, going on to victimize the women who are in those prisons, sexually assaulting women who are actually supposed to be in those prisons. 15% of all of the inmates. That was at the end of the Biden administration. The New York Times had a report on that subject. It was almost buried in their report. Yeah. So these problems are not small, they're not tiny, they are immense. This is what the left has created. And so this bill, the House version of it, banishes this. No more general mutilation, no more sterilization of the poor. I said this at the top, I'll say it again. This is Nazi stuff. This is Nazi stuff that they've been doing and it's not gonna happen anymore. The United States Senate, whatever debate they wanna have over the big beautiful bill, they wanna argue over the salt deduction and other issues that they have. This should not be an argument at all. There should not be a single Republican on the planet who supports the taxpayer funded genital mutilation of the poor. The taxpayer funded sterilization of the Poor. So this is a very big piece of this and I'm grateful, I'm very grateful for the President to push this and for these Republicans to actually get that done. So that's a really big piece here. Our friend Terry Schilling over at the American Principles Project considers this to be a major, major victories. As President Trump's big, beautiful bill fully defunds all of these sex change procedures for adults and minors. It's the right policy and it's incredibly popular. Only 23% of Americans think gender transitions should be funded for adults and only 16% for kids. I'm saddened that is that high. 23% of Americans think that mutilating an individual turns them into a different gender. Sorry, I'm here to tell you you are lying to yourself and you are being lied to about this issue. But again, this Trump administration in place, and so things are healing here. So this is a really, really big victory worth reflecting on and glad to have it. Now, that vote, it's interesting that that vote almost didn't come through. You saw the numbers at the top. I mentioned Speaker Mike Johnson was celebrating. They won this thing 215 to 214. Now, how does that happen, 215 to 214. In a world where the Republicans have an eight vote advantage right now in the House, how do you end up with just 215 to 214? Well, Speaker Mike Johnson has an explanation for this. As far as I'm concerned, it's not a very good one. He thinks that at the very least, the Republicans deserve more credit. Here's one of the issues Republicans. At least one Republican was asleep during the vote and then another Republican voted too late. He voted after the allowed time to cast his ballot. What are we sending these people to Congress for? You can't be awake for the vote. You can't get your vote in on time. Take a look here. We've got, we've got. Where am I at here? I've got the speaker of the House. You do have it. Okay, good. I've got the speaker of the House talking about this. Take a look.
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Mike Johnson
3 vote margin. By the way, I just want you to know for the record, we really had 217 votes this morning. Andrew Garbarino did not make it in time. He fell asleep in the back. No kidding. I know I'm going to just strangle him. But, and then, but he's my dear friend. And, and then David Schweikart was going to vote and slipped his card in right at the last minute. So it looks like a razor thin margin. 215 to 214 and one present. It was really 217. Okay. We all put a footnote somewhere in history on that thing. They're both going to go on record saying that's how they would have voted if they got the card in, in time. Thank you so much for being here. Bless you all. Thanks. All these guys.
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Vince
It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. It's just. It's no big deal. It's just the biggest vote so far of the Trump presidency, and Garbarino was asleep for it, and Schweikart showed up too late to cast his ballot. Fellas, I don't know if you understand what the job is. Look, I get it. You were up all night. You're very tired from all of that. You're trying to get this passed, and that happens. But I'm sorry, you've got to just caffeine up, baby, and get in there, cast the ballot. How absurd that it came that close. And what that means is, if all things had held, Gerry Connolly's death earlier this week is the only reason the bill passes by one vote. Otherwise it would have been deadlocked. It's unreal. It is totally unreal. Now, you should know there are two Republicans who voted against this bill or two Republicans who voted against it. And here's the Daily Caller's coverage of it. Why two Republicans voted against Trump's big, beautiful bill. One of those is Thomas Massie of Kentucky. Now, this has already got the White House talking about how the president's going to support a primary challenge against Massie. And Massie himself is fundraising off of that status, saying, well, the president and the press secretary are coming after me to fund a primary challenge, so I need people to donate to me. So Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Warren Davidson of Ohio, they both joined with House Democrats to oppose the big, beautiful bill. This week, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt did tell reporters that the president is supporting these primary challenges, saying, quote, I don't think he likes to see grandstanders in Congress. What's the alternative? I would ask those members of Congress. They want to see a tax hike. They want to see our country go bankrupt. That's the alternative of them trying to vote no. And the president believes the Republican Party needs to be unified, and the vast majority of Republicans clearly are. And they're listening to the president. Republicans like Thomas Massie and others, they need to take note. She said, now, why did they vote against this? Massie said that the bill is A quote, debt bomb ticking. He said, I'd love to stand here and tell the American people, we can cut your taxes and we can increase your spending and everything's going to be just fine. I can't do that. Said Massie, this bill dramatically increases deficits in the near term, but promises our government will be fiscally responsible five years from now. Where have we heard that before? How do you bind a future Congress to these promises? This bill is a debt bomb ticking. Davidson said similar things here. He said he loves many things in the bill. Promising someone else will cut spending in the future does not cut spending. He wrote to social media. Deficits do matter, and this bill grows them. Now the only Congress we can control is the one we're in. Consequently, I can't support this big deficit plan. Now, these two guys are not the only ones who had raised concerns about spending and debts and saying, hey, we're not cutting enough here. And by the way, I said yesterday as I was reviewing the contents of the bill, and I'll keep saying that one and a half trillion dollars over 10 years, not enough. $150 billion a year is nowhere near enough in spending cuts. But this is where President Trump comes in. President Trump has a power called the rescission power. He can make a request to Congress, a formal request in order to cut spending. Say no more of that. I don't want to do this spending anymore on this crazy project. We're spending too much money there. Rescind that congressional authorization, take that money back, and Congress can do it. And the cool thing is Congress doesn't need a super majority in the Senate to do it. They can do it with a simple majority vote, just 51. And Russ Vogt, he's the head of the Office of Management and Budget, he was just on yesterday with Steve Bannon and he was talking about this and he said, yes, we are going to do that. So for the Massey's and the Davidsons of the world, the guys who want to see cuts after this big, beautiful bill gets, gets through, right now the White House is indicating they are going to be sending big rescission packages to, to the United States Congress to get these cuts through. That's a very big deal. And so our obligation here as Americans who want to see cuts to our government restraint in the spending is to remind Congress that it has a job to do here, that the White House should send over these rescission packages, that is cut spending requests. That lets them do it with a simple majority vote in the Senate. And then we've got to place pressure on Congress to deliver. So I'll stand shoulder to shoulder with Massie and Davidson and Chip Roy and anybody else who wants to cut spending. But on the point about the big, beautiful bill this thing has to get passed, these are massive tax cuts for the American economy. Massive, massive fuel for the American economy. You will see revenue to the government go up with more economic activity. We've already seen that before. That happened in 2017 into 2018. It's gonna happen again here. Deliver on cuts for sure, but don't imperil the agenda that the American people just voted for. Chip Roy from Texas, he came around here. He came around because he said he does believe that the executive branch is gonna do these cuts that need to take place and Congress can codify them through the rescissions program. So that's a very big deal here. But in case you were wondering how the votes all settled out, one Republican congressman fell asleep. One Republican congressman failed to show up in time for the vote. Two Republican congressmen voted against this thing and one Republican congressman voted present on the bill. One Republican congressman voted president. That was the head of the Freedom Caucus voting president on this. So by the skin of their teeth, they got this thing across and there it is. There's the actual package. It makes its way through. They fell asleep, had a Garbarino fall asleep. That's so crazy to me. All right, coming up, what else should Congress be doing here? And also coming up, I've got to tell you, we've got the head of the civil rights division of the Justice Department joining us on the show. Harmeet Dillon is going to be here in this episode events. We're going to talk to her about her investigation into the violations of civil rights law going on right now by Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. Brandon Johnson, who is flagrantly violating civil rights law in Chicago, saying that he hires people on the basis of their skin color. He doles out government contracts on the basis of their skin color. He said it in a church over the weekend. Within 24 hours like that, Harmony Dillon in the Civil Rights division of the Justice Department launched a full blown investigation into Brandon Johnson. And meanwhile, there's a parallel Equal Employment Opportunity Commission investigation, EEOC also going into the city of Chicago, also going on into Mayor Brandon Johnson. This is huge. This never happens before. It never happened. The deep state always prevented this from happening. The Trump administration and Harmony Dillon are breaking through that. And so Harmony Dhillon is coming up on the show. I've got a lot to ask her, including Brandon Johnson now straight up accusing President Trump of being a racist. In his words, monster. He says he's a monster. I'll ask Carmey Dillon what she thinks about that. That's straight ahead and a close look at the auto pen presidency of Joe Biden in just moments. Before we get there, I wanna thank our sponsors, including blackout coffee. Blackout coffee just charges up my day every day, baby. 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And you'll get 20% off your first order. So whether you like whole bean, ground or even instant coffee that doesn't suck, Blackout coffee has you covered. Support a company that actually shares your values. Blackoutcoffee.com Vince. And use the code Vince. And you're going to get 20% off your first order. Blackout coffee. So wonderful. Okay. Yeah, no, that's right. They need some blackout in Congress, don't they? That's a smart idea. I love that. And himis. Yes, they do. To wake Garbarino up to get him to show up for his votes on time. Come on, Garbarino. You got to get this across the finish line. Dude, you can't just be sleeping on the job. Okay? What else should Congress be doing? Well, we do have an interesting update on whether or not they're actually gonna tackle the sins of the auto pen presidency. Here's a piece today from Axios that the House Republicans are now demanding that Joe Biden's doctor. That would be Kevin o' Connor. Remember the doctor. The doctor is a personal friend and a business partner of the Biden family. The House Republicans now are demanding that he come in for testimony and that Joe Biden's advisors come in to testify as well on the status of Biden's health. Now, this is an important first step. You need to have that testimony underway, and you gotta get these guys under oath testifying about what they knew and what was happening during the Biden presidency. That is the predicate to going after, disqualifying the behavior, the actions of the Biden presidency. The Republican Light House Oversight Committee yesterday, Thursday took its first step in its new investigation of the White House's handling of former President Biden's health. They're now demanding testimony from Biden's doctor, his business partner, and his top advisors. They say that the probe comes amid a renewed focus on Biden's age. This is where they plug Alex Thompson's book. Alex Thompson's a reporter for Politico. Alex Thompson and Jake Tapper. Senator Ron Johnson said Wednesday he is launching a parallel investigation into Joe Biden's health as well. So Senator Johnson is going to handle that over on his side. And then on the House side, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer has now sent letters to Biden's personal physician, Kevin o' Connor, as well as former White House officials, including Neera Tanden. All of these guys are deep, deep Democrat establishment officials, Neera Tanden, Anthony Bernal, Annie Tomasini and Ashley Williams, all seeking testimony from them on Joe Biden's cognition, his ability to do the job at all. In the letter to Kevin O' Connor, Comer cited his 2024 assessment that Biden was, quote, robust and fit to successfully execute the duties of the presidency, as well as Axios reporting from Biden's cognitive struggles. The committee, Comer says, seeks information to ensure accurate information was provided to the American people and your health reports were not subject to any improper influence. And then additionally, he was asking the aides questions about who made key decisions and exercised the powers of the executive branch during the Biden administration. This is a very big deal. You want congressional hearings on any subject. How about the constitutional crisis of the Biden presidency? Joe Biden, as far as any of us can tell, wasn't making any meaningful decisions inside of that White House. Instead, those decisions were being made by people like Ron Klain and Bob Bauer and Anita Dunn. That's according to Ed Martin's testimony recently, where he says he's got whistleblowers telling him, no, no, these guys were the three. These guys were the three who were making all the decisions. They were the gatekeepers Here, not Biden. Getting to the bottom of this is of paramount importance. And it can't just be outraged hearings where Senator Johnson or Congressman Comer or Congressman Jordan. They can't just be pounding the table saying, how awful was this? Well, sure, start with how awful it was, but then get to, were the pieces of legislation that had Biden's signature on them legitimate? Was the Inflation Reduction act, which never reduced inflation, it just exploded spending? Was that a legitimate piece of legislation? Can we disqualify that entirely on the basis of Biden lacking the cognition to even support it? What about all of the pardons of the Biden family? What about the pardons of Adam Schiff and Mark Milligan? The list goes on and on. Dr. Fauci. It is crazy what took place in the Biden era. And if we can recover from that by getting to the bottom of this, that'd be a very big deal. So my request for Congress is I don't merely want outraged hearings. I want consequential hearings. I want hearings that both bring transparency and accountability, that bring the truth to the American people and consequences for the people who manufactured a constitutional crisis, a real one, during the Biden era. So that's, that's what they're digging into. So an update there. That's what Congress says they'll be digging into next. They, they definitely should. Speaking of Ed Martin, we got an update on the Ed Martin saga. Do you remember the woman who spit on Ed Martin? She was standing outside of doing of his office as U.S. attorney. He was doing an appearance on Newsmax. A woman walks up to him, identifies him by name and then hawks a loogie on him. And Ed Martin came on this program. He came on Vince and he announced that she was identified by federal authorities and would be placed under arrest. We have an update on that story. But first let me show you the video of her spitting on him. Take a look. This is what happened. So we need to get really focused.
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Yamiche Alcindor
You are admiring how you doing.
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Harmeet Dhillon
You are disgusting.
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Vince
There. There she is, dragging that poor dog along on the street. So she attacked Ed Martin and tortured that little dog. She has been arrested. Now officially she has been arrested. We have a mug shot of the lady. Let me, let me show you this picture here. She is such a, such a nasty woman. Oh, here we go. Brianna Morello has it. This, this nasty, nasty woman mugshot of her. There we go. She's been placed under arrest. Now she's been arrested on a federal assault charge for spitting on then acting U.S. attorney Ed Martin. She claimed responsibility on X for this. She. This is the FO portion of fafo. She claimed responsibility on X for this and she bragged about it. This is how brazen these lefties are. Look at this chick again. Emily Gabriella Summer. Here she is bragging. This was on May 8th. Now, I wish I had seen this tweet at the time. We're all seeing it now. Ed, that was me that spit in your face today in front of your not us, D.C. for D.C. courthouse. That absolutely, definitely spit in your face on camera. Hi. Hello. A pleasure to hawk a dehydrated, pithy white foam spit into your face. I only apologize that this city left me so dehydrated and unable to get water that I couldn't produce more to stain and drip down your face. And then a poop emoji. Eagle Martin. Eagle Ed Martin, you punk ass bitch cuckold. That is what Emily Gabriela tweeted. The emotionally incontinent leftist. In fact, it looks like her username is Left Tits on on X. Left Tits. She's a crazy person. She's crazy and now she's in jail. Now she's been arrested by federal authorities. That was just a part of a chain of tweets on the subject. She called him a pig headed swine. She called him a cracker. And she said he's a privileged racist misogynist, yada, yada, yada. And she's proud of it too. She said she loves the footage and she's gonna laugh for a lifetime. Well, you can laugh behind bars. How about doing a little laughing behind bars? Because that's what happened to Emily. So they caught her and they arrested her and hopefully they rescued that dog too, because that dog does not deserve to live under those circumstances. So she is. She is finding out right now as we speak. So a good update on that story. I'm sorry that it took so long. It seems like it. They finally made the arrest yesterday. I want. I want snappier action. I don't know about you. I want these things to move more quickly. We caught her on camera. She's like screaming at the guy. He told us over a week ago that they knew who she was, so they could have put her in handcuffs a long time ago. But there she is. Left Tits is now behind bars. And it couldn't happen to a more perfect person. All right, let me see here. In a moment. I want to get into what's going on with the Chicago mayor, Brandon Johnson, because Brandon Johnson announced over the weekend that he hires people on the basis of their race and he doles out city contracts on the basis of their race. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's against the law. In fact, I'm certain it's against civil rights law. So how can a mayor get away with that? It turns out in the Trump era, you can't. My next guest is Harmony Dillon. She'll join us in just a moment. She's the head of the Civil Rights Department, the Department of justice, and as soon as she heard Brandon Johnson say all of that over the weekend, she launched a full blown investigation into him in the City of Chicago. More on that in just a moment. Gotta thank our sponsors here that make all this possible. The only thing more important than achieving a dream is protecting it. 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Harmeet Dhillon
It's wonderful. Thanks for having me.
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Vince
Okay, so you've got a big job. Normally the civil rights division at the Justice Department is, as far as I'm aware, basically just a left wing activist operation, isn't it?
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Harmeet Dhillon
Well, it has been over time, but that's not what it is under this Trump administration. And we have a great team of dedicated patriots who are making sure that civil rights are protected for all Americans, not just whoever happens to be popular with the traditional civil rights edifice at any given time.
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Vince
Is it true? Something I've heard about the civil rights office in the past is that they would hang up political propaganda in the offices and that there'd be like signage to support various political causes.
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Harmeet Dhillon
That has been true in the past. It is not true today.
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Vince
Okay, well, that's good news. So this week we're all very aware of what you're up to because Mayor Brandon Johnson over the weekend told the church that he's been hiring people on the basis of race. He's been singing praises for various city officials on the basis of their skin color. He also said he's been doling out contracts specifically on the basis of race. And this caught your attention. Tell us how this all came to pass.
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Harmeet Dhillon
Well, Vince, I'm kind of perpetually online. That is actually where I get most of my news. And in this new job, it is where most of the most egregious oppressors of Our civil rights in this country self identify on social media. And that is the case with the mayor of Chicago. And so I happened to be checking up on the news on Sunday, and this video caught my eye. And right there, in his own words, is the mayor of Chicago identifying for us how he's proud of policies that appear to be race based with respect to hiring of individuals in his top management in the city, as well as, as you say, government contracts. And, you know, under both the president's initiatives trying to eradicate DEI policies, but also even without that, under our civil rights laws and Title VII and other laws regarding government contracting, that's illegal. You cannot choose people on the basis of their race or refuse to choose them on the basis of their protected characteristic, or make sweeping statements about how you prefer black people. That is kind of discriminatory to other people. And so we've been hearing from a lot of people who would love to work for the city. They live in Chicago or would love to have a contract, but they've now realized that they've been excluded. And it's not just this mayor. People have drawn my attention to numerous remarks by the previous mayor, Lori Lightfoot, where in press conferences, she said she didn't like to talk to white people and she would only call on black reporters. And so there is an ingrained and deeply privileged attitude, if you will, of racism in Chicago's leadership. And we're taking aim at it to see what we can do about it.
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Vince
So what effect does this have on a city when you launch an investigation like this? What does that basically, what does that bring to bear on the city of Chicago now? What's ahead for them?
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Harmeet Dhillon
Well, we are going to be asking them to provide detailed documents, to not destroy documents, and to account for the mayor's words. And we're also hearing from members of the public who are giving us examples of having applied for jobs and not getting them. And then you look at who got the job and was that person better qualified than the one who didn't? This is Basic Employment Law 101. No matter whether you're the mayor of Chicago or somewhere else, the same laws do apply. Now, the mayor has put out some defensive material, knowing, I think, that he's in hot water. I think even some of the Chicago newspapers have criticized him for running his mouth and saying the quiet part out loud. But, you know, he's trying to defend himself, saying, well, our hiring is overall not different than the racial makeup of the city, but that's actually, again, not how you hire people. In America. And this sort of statistical defense is not going to be availing. And in every individual case, every job applicant is entitled to a race free examination process. And that's not what they're getting in Chicago. From the mayor's own words now, it.
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Vince
Sounds, it sounds like in that defense he's saying that they have racial quotas in their hiring. In fact, it almost sounds like he's making it worse for himself.
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Harmeet Dhillon
I would, I would agree with that. And, and you know, but to be fair, for so many years, our government and, you know, various governments and certainly the last four years have basically sued companies if they had any statistical variants from some larger population. But that's actually not how we, not how the laws work in our country, and that's not how it should be. And so both under the President's anti DEI initiative as well as his anti, what we call disparate impact analysis executive order, we are not going to be examining on the basis of that, but rather on the basis of did you prefer to hire someone of a particular race for your senior offices and top staff? And that's, that's not legal in America?
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Vince
No. Okay, so let me, let me play a video. This is Brandon Johnson in the last 24 hours. He's attacking President Trump for your decision to launch this investigation. Take a look at this.
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Caroline Levitt
You know, as far as, you know, the President's animus towards women, people of color, working people, we have always known who he has been. This is not a surprise. He's a monster, period. We have the most diverse administration in the history of Chicago, and he is threatened by that. You can tell when someone is fearful is because they act out. We have a president that is screaming and having tantrums right now because we have an administration that reflects the city of Chicago, but he would much rather have administrations that reflect the country club.
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Vince
So correct me if I'm wrong, but you told me at the top of this interview that it was your decision to launch this investigation. Did President Trump tell you to go after Chicago for this?
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Harmeet Dhillon
Yeah, I haven't spoken to the President recently and he asked me to do this job and I'm doing this job. And this job requires a focus on government officials who blatantly discriminate on the basis of race, because that's illegal. And so the mayor lashing out like he's in a playground, calling him, the president a monster and all of that, classic deflection. And I think he is stressed and worried and so are the newspapers in Chicago calling him out for it. That he's messed up because he, he did what, by the way, I think this is happening in Atlanta. You see a lot of cities where government contracts have been explicitly, explicitly handed out on the basis of race for decades. And that little game of racial spoils is over. It's un American and it's illegal. And we're going to stop it at the Department of Justice.
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Vince
So when you launch an investigation like this, it does cost the taxpayers of Chicago money. Right? In other words, Brandon Johnson's decision to hire on the basis of race as you, as you viewed it when you saw that video. Now they have to mount a legal defense against the Justice Department. That's. So Brandon Johnson is costing the city money through his actions.
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Harmeet Dhillon
He's costing the city money. He's explained, by the way, not just to respond to our investigation, but also every person who did not get a job where he explicitly called out his racial preferences. They have private claims. I'm sure they're all racing to plaintiff's lawyers to assert their claims against the city. It's the kind of case that any good employment lawyer like I've been before I took this job loves to hear that evidence out there on the record. And so it's unfortunate for the city, but overall, it's going to be a good thing for the city when they stop these racial preferences because when a city hires with consideration of everyone in the applicant pool, they're going to get more and better candidates. And I think that's overall going to be a great thing for the taxpayers in Illinois and the city of Chicago. So you're welcome, Chicago. You know, some better days are coming.
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Vince
Yeah, I hope so. I listened to your great interview with Tucker Carlson this week, and in it you described how you have so many civil rights issues coming to you that even if you had 400 attorneys working for you right now, they'd stay completely busy all across the country. And I'm curious what other civil rights issues you might be tackling. One that comes to mind, certainly for this audience and for me is the past FBI's attack on Catholics that was orchestrated out of the Richmond field office, saying that the traditional Latin mass amounted to some sort of act of radicalism. Is that the kind of thing that falls under your purview? Are you investigating any of that?
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Harmeet Dhillon
Well, look, I mean, first of all, I think Cash Patel and Dan Bongino are doing a great job in that section of the doj. FBI is part of the doj and we have a government wide effort to eradicate anti Christian bias in the government. And so I'm part of that effort. So is Cash. And I know each of the government agencies is identifying problems that have been there in the past. Pete Hegseth has been part of that and so have other members of the Cabinet. They've all been invited to that. It is important that we eradicate all anti religious bias in the United States. Among the things we're tackling as top priorities at the Department of Justice include cities that have discriminatory zoning against houses of worship, whatever house of worship it is. We've opened up multiple investigations into that. We have Colorado that is trying to force a Christian camp to make girls unrobe in front of boys at a Christian camp based on this gender madness that's sweeping the country. I just saw an article earlier today about a young woman who changes for sports in her car in high school so that she doesn't have to disrobe in front of boys who claim to be girls in the locker room and so on and on every single day. When you get up in the morning, there are so many violations that were that are being flagged for us. We're tackling voting rights issues and failures of states to comply with the federal voting rights statutes that we administer at the Department of Justice. We're just getting started and examining a number of those complaints as we staff up here. And, you know, we're looking at at other areas of discrimination that are happening throughout the United States. The college campuses issue is such a big one that has been a top priority for this administration working hand in hand with the Department of Education, Health and Human Services, Government Services Administration and other agencies, as well as regular calls with the White House to tackle some of those top offenders. And you see the Ivy League are top offenders, but you're seeing it at so many other institutions. And our lawyers in the Civil Rights Division were right there as part of the effort when these two innocent people were gunned down here in D.C. by this insane terrorist. And we're identifying other issues like that. I mean, even online today, another member of the government flagged for me that there are people in the United States on social media praising that terrorist act and calling for more of the same. Now, you know, we believe in free speech in the United States, but inciting people to violence is illegal. And we are taking that on as well. So again, we don't do everything at civil rights, but we work with numerous other professionals to make sure that issues that affect the civil rights of American citizens are being handled regularly.
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Vince
So what about at like, say the local government, school level. You know, we're watching as, like, even in Northern Virginia, I see a lot of this where you have school districts who are outright saying, we don't care what the executive orders are. We don't care if our federal funding is imperiled. We're going to continue to threaten girls. We'll treat boys as if they are girls. This is going on. And it strikes me that that is a Title 9 violation. And so does that fall under your purview? Are you dealing with the local school boards who continue these abuses?
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Harmeet Dhillon
Well, we are. I mean, we do have, you know, limited jurisdiction. We cannot, even with limited resources, go after every single school district in the United States. What we're doing is selectively taking them on. And we're also waiting for the courts to issue clear rulings on these issues. And there are mixed results in different courts. And so ultimately, it is the responsibility of voters to hold their local elected officials accountable at that political level. But there is a tireless and growing army of moms and dads who step up to run for school boards, who step up to comment at meetings of school boards. We need those people to come forward, and we do need citizens to step up. And I applaud those brave young female athletes who refuse to compete under these biased terms. I mean, for so many years, women in the United States have fought for equal opportunity and for the right of girls to be able to get equal funding or appropriate funding for their sports efforts. And so this is not a partisan issue at all. Internationally, we're seeing people on the left and the right come together and insist that girls and women have equal access to sports opportunities. I'm proud to be part of that movement.
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Vince
I want to ask you about a feature of the Justice Department called the Community Relations Service that I don't think many people know about, but I've known through the years. It's a basically taxpayers fund, a group of people at the Justice Department who go in and they train activists in how to conduct their activism, which is really. It's just a deep state thing. It basically, it. It supercharges the left's activism all across the country in these cities. And the Justice Department does that. Is that still happening? Does the Community Relations Service still go in and train left wing activists in the United States? What's happening with that?
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Harmeet Dhillon
Yeah, I don't think so. Not under this doj. You know, we have reorganized our priorities to be consistent with the President's executive orders. And, you know, we're not. We're not training left wing activists to create trouble in our country there, by the way, plenty of people doing that outside. And that is actually, in fact one of the problems that I talked about on that Tucker Carlson podcast is the extent to which some lawyers in the Civil Rights division viewed their job as effectively being partners in those left wing ideologies and efforts. And some of these folks who weren't happy with my change of direction as, as ordered by the president throughout the government have, you know, kind of, I'm sure, are seeking jobs in those industries outside. And that's where they belong, in the private sector or preferably, you know, we would hope to change their minds at some point, but the government should not be accelerating and funding radicalization. Our job is very simple. It is at the Civil Rights Division we have statutes that we administer and it's to administer those statutes equally for all Americans and not just for the woke few.
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Vince
Finally, also within your purview is investigating patterns and practices at police departments, previously under left wing justice departments, they basically were setting up these so called consent decrees with police departments across the country that ended up resulting in a lot more violence in communities. The Justice Department will get involved and then the situation, the crime situation will get a lot worse. What's the status report on that in terms of your oversight of those consent decrees and working with America's cops to make our streets safer?
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Harmeet Dhillon
Well, Vince, this week we took action in court on Wednesday to file dismissals of two pending consent decree cases that were put before the judges by the Biden DOJ in the last weeks after the election, which they lost and tried to sneak this in under the wire. Those are in Minneapolis where the George Floyd incident occurred five years ago, and in Louisville, Kentucky where the Breonna Taylor incident occurred. DOJ also has the authority and does prosecute cops who violate the civil rights of American citizens. And I, you know, police brutality is wrong. And shooting people who have not committed a crime, that is also problematic. And we do prosecute cops who act inappropriately. But what consent decrees typically do is for over a decade on average, once a judge issues a consent decree, cities pay upwards of $10 million a year to comply with a bunch of lawyers who, as I've kind of joked, but only semi joked, I'm not sure some of these lawyers have ever met cops because they impose these radical requirements that make police departments ineffective and miserable, tie their hands and make communities unsafe. I mean, not me, but Axios has written an article that compares the skyrocketing crime rates in cities that are under consent Decrees, and they're typically ranging from 30 to over 60% of an increase in crime. I mean, we just ended one in Albuquerque, which went on for over a decade. A police monitor was paid, a single man was paid over a million dollars a year. The city spent tens of millions, millions of dollars to comply. It had had a 30 year low in its crime rates prior to the consent decree being issued and crime skyrocketed in that city. And so I got rid of six more factual findings that the DOJ had done under the Biden administration, basically accusing cops and police departments or sheriff's departments throughout the United States of misconduct based on minor statistical anomalies or differentials between arrest rates or police encounters, as you will with homeless people trying to import ADA Americans with Disabilities act discrimination requirements onto 911 response times and teams. And just nonsensical pie in the sky idealism that bears no relation to reality or the quality of life issues facing America's communities. And so what we are promising is that we are not going to be engaging in that type of remote control second guessing of the police. We will continue to prosecute officers who lie to get inappropriate search warrants or who commit acts of violence against citizens that are unjustified and otherwise are inappropriate. But I want people out there to know that the DOJ is also their partner. And Civil Rights Division helps police departments throughout the United States with a program called cops Community Oriented Policing Services that helps do audits of police practices at the request of police departments and helps with targeted training of best practices when police departments want that. And I think it's great where people want to improve and modernize, use new technology. And so we're examining those and helping with those where appropriate. But where we're not going to be in the business of is micromanaging from D.C. with some idealistic lawyers. What the police are doing every day in communities to keep America safe and risking their lives to do it. We appreciate that. We want to be their partners and.
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Vince
That micromanaging wasn't helping anybody. It was actually making America more dangerous. The Department of Justice led to more crime, which is so completely appalling. Harmee Dillon, you're running a very important division of the Department of Justice. Thank you very much for your time today. Good to talk to you.
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Harmeet Dhillon
Thank you.
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Vince
There's Harmony Dhillon running the Civil Rights Division there at the Department of Justice. Isn't that amazing? So they set up these consent decrees with these police departments across the country. Everyone gets, all the lawyers get paid. They make millions of Dollars. Everybody's taking a ton of money out of this. And the crime situation gets worse because the Justice Department got involved and made everything hell. That's over now under Harmony Dillon and President Trump. What a massive, massive change here. Harmony Dillon doing some good stuff. And when you talk about civil rights law, she's got a lot of stuff. It's not just race, it's religion, it's gender. So she's going after all these issues. So we've got the right warrior in that job. And she's tough. She's tough. So grateful for her time today. We'll have her back. Our meat's wonderful. And she's been standing up on the right side of history on all of these things, so I'm glad President Trump chose her. And she's got to get more lawyers in there, too. One of the issues right now is they got the doge cuts, apparently, that are keeping her from doing too much hiring. But she's been working with the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, to try and bring more people into her office because, as she said before, she could bring 400 lawyers in and every single one of them would be working their fingers to the bone, given the number of civil rights violations that are going on in the United States right now at the hands of the left, which. What do they talk about all the time? Systemic racism as they create systemic racism. Just classic, classic stuff. So thank you to Harmeet for that. I have a great. Speaking of the left's racial insanity, I got a great clip for you yesterday from the White House press briefing. There's a reporter lady, a little dumpling called Yamiche Alcindor, who was in the White House press briefing yesterday and tried to confront Caroline Levitt over what's going on in South Africa. The president just two days ago was mentioning all of these white crosses that are seen in South Africa, and each of those crosses represent white farmers who've been killed in the horrific violence in the country. Yamiche was trying to make excuses for all of this and trying to argue whether or not they were actually grave markers or just markers representing the fallen. I'm sorry, I thought the underlying question really simply was, are white farmers dying or not? And the answer is yes, they are. And listen, as the White House press secretary has to smack this lady around. Take a look.
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Yamiche Alcindor
Yamiche, good to see you.
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Eduardo Flores Ruiz
Thanks for taking the question.
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Vince
Sure.
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Eduardo Flores Ruiz
The president showed a video that he said showed more than 1,000 burial sites of white South Africans that he said were murdered. We know that that was not True. And that the video wasn't showing that. So I wonder why did the President choose to show that it's not true. The video was showing a burial site. It is unsubstantiated that that's the case.
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Yamiche Alcindor
No, it's. It is true that that video showed the crosses that represent.
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Eduardo Flores Ruiz
The President claimed the.
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Yamiche Alcindor
The video showed images of crosses in South Africa about white farmers who have been killed and politically persecuted because of the color of their skin. And those crosses are representing their lives. Those crosses are representing their lives in the fact that they are now dead and their government did nothing about it.
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Vince
Yes, that's exactly right. Why is Yamiche making excuses for all of this? Is it because of the skin color of the fallen? They deserved it. We're not supposed to make a big deal out of it. We're not supposed to notice it. It's crazy to me. You know, yesterday, Caroline Levitt said, you know, even the Associated Press has reported on this. And that's true. If you were watching this program or listening to this program yesterday, you would know all about this, because these are the crosses. You can see here, the crosses that the Associated Press showed in their photo. And the caption for the photo, my great friend, great reporter Peter Hassan saying a view of crosses planted at the White Cross Monument, each one marking a white farmer who has been killed in a farm murder, is seen on a hillside in Isterberg, near Paliquin, South Africa, May 15th of 2025. That is just over a week ago that that photo was taken. Yamiche pretending, just like the rest of the legacy left wing media, that none of this is actually happening. Don't believe your own eyes. Don't believe the photos. Don't believe the Associated Press captions from a week ago. Really, really amazing stuff here. Amazing stuff going on as these guys just keep lying. They keep lying over and over and over again in the face of the President Trump just dropping all sorts of receipts in front of everybody going, wait a second. No, this is actually happening. This is some very, very bad stuff going on. All right, one last one for you. I've got. The Wisconsin judge has been arrested. You know that by now. She was the woman who led the. The people out of the room, tried to get the illegal alien out of the room. Take a look. This is a local Wisconsin media that they obtained the footage here of this, of this judge sneaking the illegal out of the room. Here it is. This is an amazing, amazing footage.
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Local News Reporter
Just the video that we've been combing through that apparent confrontation with federal Agents and how they eventually took down Eduardo.
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Yamiche Alcindor
Flores Ruiz out here in front of the courthouse.
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Local News Reporter
A view of the sixth floor of the Milwaukee County Courthouse outside Judge Hannah dugan's courtroom. It's April 18th. An undocumented Mexican national, Eduardo Flores Ruiz, senior in black, arrives for a hearing on domestic battery charges. Rolling in, he walks past plainclothes federal agents there to arrest him and into Dugan's courtroom. According to court documents, Judge Dugan learned of the agent's presence and confronted them in the hallway. She's seen in the video directing them to the chief judge's office minutes after.
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Vince
And you can see in the video, they're dressed undercover. They're trying to keep a low profile. They want to take this guy into custody. And the judge is blowing their spot.
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Local News Reporter
On most of the agents leave. Flores Ruiz walks out of Dugan's courtroom through this door, which federal prosecutors call a jury door not open to the public. But one federal agent hangs back in the hallway. You can see him here in the tan. He motions to follow Flores Ruiz and gets onto the elevator with him. Here's Flores Ruiz leaving the courthouse with the agent not far behind.
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Vince
Yeah.
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Local News Reporter
Once outside, Flores Ruiz starts running. Agents chase him halfway around the building before arresting him. On 10th Street. What you've just seen is what could be key evidence at the center of the case against Judge Dugan.
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Vince
Judge Dugan who's caught on camera leading the guy out. Go that way, Go out that door. Try and hide. And luckily for us, you had that law enforcement guy, one of them, who didn't buy the old, you know, the switch up that the judge tried to impose on him and said, wait a second. I'm gonna stay out in the hallway. I'm gonna keep an eye on what's going on around here. This illegal trying to escape from the building, and then with law enforcement hot on his truck, how did he know to run? How did he know law enforcement was about to catch him? Why did he take off running when these guys were behind him dressed in plain clothes? The answer is because the judge gave him the heads up. You better go out this way. Law enforcement is here. They're trying to capture you. Get out of the building. He takes off running. She gets the silver bracelets. She's busted for this, under arrest, and rightfully so, given her violations of the law. F, A, F O. Yes, indeed. I hope you have an important, wonderful Memorial Day weekend. I want you just like me. I'm gonna spend some time remembering all of the people who have lost their lives at war. For this great country. God bless their families and God bless their sacrifices. I will be back with you next week off Monday. I'm back Tuesday with you on Vince. Great to have you with us today.