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Hey it's your old friend peter coming up we've got a special thanksgiving themed episode of how to do everything made by wait wait producers mike danforth and ian chillag now if you're currently listening to this podcast while sitting driving somewhere for the holidays and you're starting to feel car sick then make sure to keep listening once again everybody how to do everything will not live in this feed forever whether that makes you happy or not so be sure to follow them at their own feed okay mike and ian take it.
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Away hey ellie what can we help.
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You with so as a kid i remember riding roller coasters i remember my parents had a volvo station wagon where the backseat you could face backwards riding the subway everything i never got motion sickness never got car sick now as i've gotten older like i'm twenty six but i noticed like i can't do roller coasters the same like i remember one time going to disneyland as a kid and doing california screamin like six times in a row and i could have done more but we had to go to dinner or something and i guess my question is just sort of like is there a way i could build up that stamina again now can't look at my phone in the car or i feel like i get kind of ill feeling and just sort of like what changed from childhood to now i mean a lot of things but in terms of motion sickness yeah yeah.
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Yeah ellie i've noticed the same thing i loved roller coasters when i was a kid but i recently went to disney world and and i rode space mountain and i needed two hours to recover driving home from the park i was just leaning my head against the window and moaning yeah and i should.
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Point out this was a work trip so there were this wasn't like in the privacy of your own family this was a work event a coworker was.
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Like sitting next to me in the car on the way home patting my back but also positioning her body to be out of the way if i.
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Threw up and i think you left early from disney world you had to.
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Leave no but everybody everybody else just kept riding rides and i just had to stand outside staring off into the.
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Distance you were just the party pooper.
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All this is to say ellie i.
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Feel your pain and i would say ellie things are only going to get.
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Worse that's what i'm worried about and that's i'm like i'm still in my twenties which is where it's like you know hangovers i know are only going to get worse as i get older motion sickness there's a lot of stuff that i like i'm still in my body's still on the younger side you.
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Still have elasticity in your brain i.
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Think yeah yeah oh man what if we go away to find an answer to this question and what we come back to you with is ellie enjoy this moment while you can it's only.
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Gonna get worse ellie we actually have terrible news you only have six months.
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You know who could help with this beloved hollywood superstar kevin bacon kevin when.
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You guys were getting ready to shoot apollo thirteen you prepared on the vomit.
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Comet right well not just preparing we actually shot on the vomit comet we shot quite a bit of the movie because back in those days you really couldn't recreate weightlessness using vfx you know special effect i mean you could try to take out a bunch of wires and have people flying around on harnesses like peter pan but it was never going to work very well yeah yes after we did the test run on this on this airplane ron came to us and said ron howard the director said you know so we're going to build the sets up on the bomb at comet and try to shoot stuff.
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Up there wait so what do you remember from that like tell us about what that experience was like well i'm.
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Always grateful for all the crazy experiences that i get to have just by the nature of the work that i do the places that i get to go and the characters and the shoes i get to walk in and but this one was really really kind of nuts the the kc one hundred thirty five also known as the bomber comet is a plane that nasa uses to simulate no gravity on earth which a lot of people think there's such a thing as a you know an anti gravity chamber but that's literally impossible to do so so what they do is it's a large plane it flies out over the gulf of mexico and the pilot makes it climb straight up and then straight down and as you go over the top of what's called the parabola the centrifugal force force balances that with the gravitational pull of the earth and so you create weightlessness for twenty six seconds so if you've ever been on a roller coaster you go over that the top of that roller coaster and there's a big drop you know what that feels like your stomach goes up into your brain and so we went out and once the sets were built up there we did it six.
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Hundred times six hundred times what yeah.
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Yeah we would do twenty in the morning then we would break for lunch.
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Oh yeah because you need something to.
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Barf up later exactly and then we would do twenty in the afternoon and it was kind of a miracle of you know film ingenuity so kevin that's.
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A pretty stacked cast were any of your castmates could they not handle it did any of them have trouble up.
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There well no nasa was giving us some serious anti nausea medication okay which definitely helped i know that tom and bill you know the drugs were kind of a drag because you know i don't know if you ever if you've ever taken an anti nausea medication sometimes they work because they sort of you know make you sleepy you know what i mean they calm you down and so to combat that we also had to take a stimulant so like it was like a combination of two and you never really knew which one was going to kick in but one day both bill and tom decided that they were going to cowboy it out and not take it and they they were both pretty green there was a something that's kind of funny they call it an airman's corsage when you went up now we were in our costumes but everybody else that would go up was required to wear a flight suit and on the chest are two pockets you know with zippers and so you take the vomit bag and you stuff it in there and then you leave it you know you leave the opening kind of poking out they called it an airman's corsage so that it's right there now i did so i didn't have i never i never threw up i did get thrown up on keep going well okay so you can imagine when you're floating you can't really use things like dolly track or whatever basically it was all handheld yeah because the cameras would float and so the camera guy was operating and it was a you know shot of me and i'm watching him and all of a sudden he sort of pulls his head out from behind the lens and pukes now the thing about that is that it's floating too there was nothing for me to do about it i just saw the few coming and just you know tried to kind of roll out of the way but it came right down well.
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Kevin we'll let you go but i guess do you having been through all of this these six hundred flights do you have any tips for ellie i.
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Can tell you one thing ellie we were actually trained in this on our very first flight we were told not to swivel our head not to look from side to side but to keep your focus straight ahead and they say the same thing about being on a boat that if you keep your eyes on the horizon it'll help with the nausea so what's funny about that is i remember now especially on the first few flights when we went up and down in the parabolas they kept us strapped in like we didn't leave our chairs it wasn't until we had kind of gotten used to it that we started taking off our seatbelts and started flying around but the first few flights you were supposed to just you know keep your seatbelt on and stay in your chair and tom hanks was front of me and i stared a hole in the back of his head i just remember i remember the back of his head so well because i was just sitting there you know white knuckling it out in the chair you know before i got used to it and just you know staring right through him i could probably draw you a picture of the back of hanks's head.
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Well.
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Kevin thank you so much for helping.
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Ellie out yeah ellie good luck with.
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That.
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All right ellie we have another solution for you in case for some reason you can't get tom hanks to sit in front of you every time you're on a roller coaster we just.
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Read this study in frontiers of human.
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Neuroscience that says we're always reading frontiers in human neuroscience we just love it.
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We skimmed a study in the frontiers of human neuroscience that says listening to soft or joyful music after driving reduces car sickness by up to fifty seven.
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Percent you know who makes soft and joyful music me kenny g well that.
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Research is very interesting i was gonna say just make sure you're looking out the window but i guess there's more to it than that you know okay so i recorded a song joy to the world from one of my christmas records because if it's joyful that's gonna be the perfect song and i think that will be probably make you feel good even in the middle of july you'll probably enjoy hearing it yeah is.
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There something kenny in your vast experience that you think is key to making a song joyful that's a good question.
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I don't know to be honest i don't know if there's a real thing that makes it joyful i mean you could say well let's make it up tempo well that doesn't necessarily to me make it joyful but i make it faster yeah sure i wish there was an answer for it but you know i could say well if i play a d sharp you know five times in a row that that makes the song joyful but unfortunately it doesn't work.
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Like that do you have a horn handy there where you could demonstrate for.
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Us i mean you have to give me a few minutes though while we're talking can i oh yeah can i get it ready i didn't i don't have it prepared but you have to give me a second okay we'll give.
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You all the time you need well.
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We can keep talking while we're doing it i'm going to brush my teeth while we talk so.
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Wait are you.
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Serious unless i brush my teeth wait what okay sorry about that you got to have clean sacks okay well now.
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We have a whole new question yeah.
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Is that ritual or does that actually.
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Improve your playing it doesn't improve my playing listen i'm brushing my teeth while i'm talking this is crazy that's incredible what happens is that i don't want any food particles or anything to get in my saxophone so i gotta make sure that when i'm blowing it in there there's no like there's no like smell of onions or garlic or any of those kinds of things or food particles we don't want that the saxophone.
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Yeah i guess it would come back to you the next time you played the saxophone that wouldn't be yeah well.
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You could yeah yeah you might like i'll tell you i was gonna buy the saxophone look i have my saxophone it's the same one i've had since i was in high school yeah it has a serial number and the serial number equates to it was tell you when it was born my saxophone was born on march seventeenth nineteen fifty nine i researched now so when they made the sacrifice they also made other saxophones that day let's say thirty or forty whatever and there's a serial number that's two two more than mine made on the same day same day in nineteen fifty nine in paris saw the saxophone not knowing that it was the same day i just saw the saxophone and it was in a it was in this green rubber case now i remember mine came in a green rubber case when i first got it and i opened it up and said oh my gosh this looks like my saxophone smelled like smoke oh the guy was a smoker and i could not i mean i wanted to buy it because i was like oh i could my sax could have a brother and i couldn't even stand even having it on my fingers it stuck so all right so i'm now trying to take my sacks out of the case now that my mouth is nice and fresh you did.
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Such an impressive job of talking to us and brushing your teeth at the same time like you can also do you're circular you're a circular breather right that's something you know how to do.
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Of course i know how to do.
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It so you could do all these things and breathe continuously the whole time.
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So let's see all right so what happens when you put a sack together is the reed has to kind of find itself on the mouthpiece so it doesn't necessarily play beautifully right off the that a minute or two okay so anyway i've got it out and i'm i'm just kind of doing if i was going to play something like a minor key would be something like okay so you see that's kind of sad now we can do something major so that would be happier and ellie i think this is what you need to listen to when you're feeling carsick there you go ellie that'll do it for.
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Mobile for details it's entirely possible that you are listening to this episode of how to do everything while stuck in traffic on your way somewhere for thanksgiving happy thanksgiving it doesn't what i just said suggests it is not currently a.
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Happy thanksgiving fair enough sorry yeah well you've got this thanksgiving we can't do anything about the traffic but we might be able to help make you feel.
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A little better we read about in twenty ten there was a traffic jam in china that lasted twelve days li.
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Zhajiang you were actually stuck in this traffic jam right yes.
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We were lucky once some of the drivers got stuck there for days yeah or people got some water from the stream or river whatever started having showers on the roadside.
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Wow i mean good for them like what like you can't blame them after being trapped in your car for so long yes so what did you end up doing when you were trapped in that traffic jam for so long like how did you guys kill time together.
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We left xanadu shortly after early lunch we were in good spirit and my friend tatiana she was a diplomat and she brought brazilian biscuits and chocolates so we were happy for a while until we got stuck for hours on the road and it was so funny because and we were hungry so but as a chinese know chinese people were very enterprising and chinese people also loved food so on the roadside you'll see people setting dumplings selling hot pot noodle pot oh yeah and people set up food stores along the roadside so so people.
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Selling dumplings in hot pot people showering with water from the creeks and rivers did you see anything else or have you heard other stories of ways people.
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Dealt with it i saw people the lorry drivers just took their shirts off it was hot summer and they just sit on stones and start playing cards.
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Why not well based on now your experience with these traffic jams what do you bring with you now on trips in your car just in case you.
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Get stuck oh i always i always even without the incident i always bring food i have nuts i have dried fruits i have not brazilian but biscuits.
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Sure do you have a deck of.
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Cards no i don't okay.
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Well that does it for this week's show what did you learn ian i learned that.
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They actually filmed apollo thirteen in zero gravity in the vomit comet yeah you.
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Don'T see that kind of stuff anymore now it really is just computer generated.
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Stuff i feel like if whatever project i was working on if i knew that people had brought in nasa to fly a space age vehicle yeah i would feel a lot of added pressure i think i would blow a lot of takes if i were performing in.
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Apollo thirteen yeah it's not funny when you crack and do a funny joke let's do it again we'll just do.
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It again we've never seen the apollo thirteen bloopers tom hanks that was hilarious you just cost us forty five million.
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Dollars i learned that before he plays his instrument kenny g has to brush.
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His teeth do you think that that's.
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In kenny g's rider like the only thing in his rider is a brand new toothbrush and one gallon of aquafresh.
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What kind of toothpaste do you use for that i feel like he could.
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Make a lot of money if he pitched oral b with kenny g.
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The episode is focused on practical (and sometimes humorous) advice for listeners traveling over Thanksgiving, particularly those suffering carsickness or caught in endless holiday traffic. Listeners learn why carsickness gets worse with age, how famous actors handle nausea in zero gravity, quirky methods to fend off traffic boredom, and why even world-class saxophonists obsess over oral hygiene.
On Adult Motion Sickness:
Hollywood on Nausea:
Kenny G’s Ritual:
Legendary Traffic Jam:
Useful for non-listeners:
Even if you missed the episode, now you'll know why you’re suddenly queasy on roller coasters, that Kevin Bacon survived 600 parabolas without puking but didn't avoid floating vomit, why Kenny G’s sax never smells, and how dumplings (and card games) can save a gridlocked drive.
Contributors (in order of appearance):