HTDE: Sheets and Blankets

Summary

Podcast Summary: Wait Wait... Don’t Tell Me! – “HTDE: Sheets and Blankets”

Date: April 1, 2026
Hosts/Participants: Peter Sagal, Mike, Rebecca, Kevin, Carlo Catonio (Detective), Ian (producer, mentioned)
Main Theme:
An entertaining, light-hearted investigation into a married couple’s recurring nighttime mystery: each morning, Rebecca wakes up with only the sheet, Kevin with only the blanket, despite making the bed together each night. The episode mixes humor, pseudo-investigation, and genuine curiosity to solve a “domestic cover caper.”

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Episode Overview

This “How To Do Everything” segment from Wait Wait... Don’t Tell Me! centers on the “mystery of the migrating sheets and blanket.” A married couple, Rebecca and Kevin, experience the strange phenomenon of waking up each morning with their covers inexplicably redistributed. The hosts, bringing in a real detective and launching a literal stakeout with night vision cameras, attempt to unravel the secrets of the couple’s bed.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Cover Conundrum is Laid Out

[00:53–04:47]

• Kevin and Rebecca describe the issue:
  Despite making the bed with sheets and blankets lined up evenly, Kevin wakes with the blanket and Rebecca with the sheet—every night.
• Emotional impact: Sometimes they wake up annoyed at each other, despite Rebecca being a marriage therapist and understanding the irrationality behind it.

“Almost without fail, the sheet is pulled towards Rebecca and the blanket has been pulled towards me.” – Kevin [01:22]

• Bed logistics:
  • Rebecca always on the left, Kevin near the door (in case of “intruders”).
  • Both are side sleepers, turned away from each other.
  • They stress they like each other but need space to sleep.

2. Seriously (But Not Really) Investigating the Mystery

[04:49–08:39]

• Enter Carlo Catonio, real detective for “Investigative and Risk Mitigation Services.”
  • Would approach the case by studying the room, lighting, bedding materials, and suggesting setting up cameras to record night activity.
  • Suggests changing sheet material (bamboo is mentioned for possible slipperiness).
  • Considers, tongue-in-cheek, the idea of “enemies” or paranormal activity but deems the case “solvable.”
• Humorous asides about what it would be like for a detective to stake out a couple’s bedroom.

“I wouldn’t eat or drink while they’re sleeping. I’d try to be as quiet as possible…” – Carlo Catonio [08:31]

3. Acquiring Surveillance “Gear”

[09:07–13:00]

• The hosts, with mock-seriousness, call B&H Photo, seeking the best “nanny cams” for the job.
  • Run-around with customer service provides comedic beats.
  • Necessary “features”: wide field of view, night vision, ability to (possibly) detect paranormal activity.

“Let this be a verbal confirmation that you have agreed to let us watch surveillance tape of you sleeping.” – Mike [13:46]

4. The Experiment & First Update

[13:23–14:13]

• Rebecca admits she may be a “twirler,” possibly wrapping herself in the sheet unconsciously.
• Both agree (nervously) to the camera setup, acknowledging elevated self-awareness is making the issue more acute.

5. Video Evidence Is In!

[17:33–20:54]

• Night vision video review:
  • Comical commentary on the couple’s bedtime routine. Peter jokes about the “observer effect” and how Kevin is extra aware of being filmed.
  • At 2:36am: Rebecca is seen kicking all covers off, then later pulls up just the sheet; Kevin is snug under the blanket.
  • The blanket/sheet separation is caught on tape. Movement from both, a “moth or specter” floats by, adding to the “paranormal” joke.

“Kevin fully comfortable under both blanket and sheet, and Rebecca out in the open on top of everything.” – Peter Sagal [20:44]

6. The (Humorous) Diagnosis & Advice

[21:51–26:11]

• The hosts explain their findings:
  • Rebecca’s “violent” tossing of the heavy comforter when she gets too hot, then grabbing just the sheet when she’s cold again.
  • Kevin, left behind, clings to the blanket; the original neat stack is separated overnight by each person’s temperature responses, movements, and the occasional nocturnal exit.

“We are all but pullers of our respective layer in this world.” – Peter Sagal [24:49]

• Prescription:
  • Ditch the heavy comforter or switch to a lighter one.
  • Recognition that sometimes you need video evidence to understand the mundane mysteries of married life.

7. Wrap-Up Jokes and Reflections

[26:11–27:45]

• Mike and Peter riff about the ordeal of watching strangers sleep, and the imagined awkwardness.
• References to “game worn” T-shirts and their own embarrassment at the surveillance process.

“Can ever speak to each other again after the things we’ve seen.” – Peter Sagal [26:56]

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• “[The] thread count is zero. A lot of nights.” – Kevin [04:41]
• “If you’re making the bed, you’re getting into bed at a certain time… I also want to kind of ask them questions about their bedtime routine. Who goes to sleep first?” – Carlo Catonio [06:38]
• “Do you have any enemies?” (jokingly probing for suspects) – Peter Sagal [07:30]
• “Let this be a verbal confirmation that you have agreed to let us watch surveillance tape of you sleeping.” – Mike [13:46]
• “There may be some observer paradox that we are actually influencing the experiment here.” – Peter Sagal [17:50]
• “At some point, because you have nothing on you, you’re getting too cold again…but you don’t want to get too hot again, so you just grab the sheet and pull that up over you.” – Peter Sagal [23:04]
• “We are all but pullers of our respective layer in this world.” – Peter Sagal [24:49]

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• The Sheet-and-Blanket Problem Explained: [00:53–04:47]
• Consulting the Detective: [04:51–08:39]
• Buying the Surveillance Camera: [09:07–13:00]
• Setting Up the Observation: [13:23–14:13]
• Video Review and Analysis: [17:33–21:01]
• Revealing the Findings to Kevin and Rebecca: [21:51–26:11]
• Final Reflections and Jokes: [26:11–27:45]

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains the breezy, self-aware humor typical of Wait Wait... Don’t Tell Me!, punctuating commonsense domestic advice with absurdist, detective-parody bits. The dialogue is candid, playful, and occasionally heartfelt—never mean-spirited—showcasing the show’s affection for mundane human quirks and the creative ways we try to solve them.

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Summary Takeaways

• Why do couples end up with the wrong covers? Nighttime temperature swings and personal movement using layers independently, revealed via surveillance.
• Can a real detective solve it? Maybe—but mostly it takes a camera, some honest conversation, and a willingness to laugh at yourself.
• Does the show recommend spying on your spouse? No, but it provided a safe, hilarious way for these two to finally get answers (and for listeners to enjoy an “unraveling” of another classic Wait Wait domestic caper).

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For listeners curious about the science of couple’s bedding disputes, this episode offers both comic relief and a gentle reminder that sometimes, the best way to resolve a recurring annoyance is…to literally watch it unfold.

Transcript

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[Peter Sagal]

Hey guys, it's Peter. Once again in your Wait Wait Feed. I am so pleased to present to you another episode of how to Do Everything by Wait, Wait. Producers Ian and Mike. Now remember, you can only get these episodes of how to Do Everything in our feed for a short while. So if you love the kind of mysteries that Mike and Ian are revealing, make sure you subscribe to how to Do Everything at their own feedback.

[Mike]

Thanks. Hey there, Kevin and Rebecca. What can we help you with?

[Kevin]

This is an issue that's been going on for a long time, but we have this thing where we go to bed at night. We have lined up our sheets and blankets in a way that works for both of us.

[Rebecca]

We make the bed. I mean, the bed is made.

[Kevin]

We make the bed. Right? The bed is made.

[Peter Sagal]

Okay.

[Kevin]

And it's been reset and everyone is like, happy.

[Mike]

Sure.

[Kevin]

And then when we wake up the following morning, almost without fail, like I would say, 90% of the time, the sheet is pulled towards Rebecca and the blanket has been pulled towards me.

[Mike]

Whoa.

[Kevin]

She only has sheet and I have blanket.

[Rebecca]

Well, and in my. I would also say in my defense, or in my. Well, actually not my defense, I should say. My interest is, I'm a marriage therapist and we wake up in the morning sometimes and we're actually like, angry with each other. I'm like, why did you take that whole. Why did you take the blanket? Like, what's your problem? You know? And so it has sometimes some residual frustrations in the morning, which, you know, I'm sort of like, why do we even have strong feelings about this? How is this happening? I don't know how to make it any better.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah, it's fascinating. I mean, plenty of couples there. There will be one half of the couple who steals everything. But whatever is happening between the two of you while you sleep, I've never heard of anything like it before.

[Kevin]

Yeah, the layering of this makes this very difficult to understand how it happens because, you know, the blanket would be harder for me to access and pull in my sleep.

[Rebecca]

Well, there's a couple.

[Kevin]

So glad.

[Rebecca]

Oh, the comforter is there. Too, but I don't think we have any. We don't seem to pull the comforter. I mean, more than anything, it's the. It's the. The sheet and the blanket that get pulled in different directions.

[Peter Sagal]

Well, okay, so let's. Let's lay out the case here. So you each have a set side of the bed you sleep on. Who's on the. If we're, I guess, facing the ceiling, who's on the left? Who's on the right facing the ceiling?

[Rebecca]

I'm on the left.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Peter Sagal]

Okay.

[Kevin]

I'm always closer to the door in case of an intruder.

[Mike]

Okay, good. Good. Rebecca, you're laughing awfully hard at that idea.

[Rebecca]

Yes. I think he's poking fun at me. I may have used that reasoning in years past.

[Mike]

Okay, good. Good to know.

[Peter Sagal]

Okay, and what position are the two of you in when you go to sleep first?

[Kevin]

Like, honestly, about as far away from each other as possible.

[Peter Sagal]

Okay, but like, on your. And are you on your sides turned away from each other? Turned towards each other?

[Rebecca]

Yeah. Side sleeper. Turned away.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Kevin]

And we sound like, I think, probably not affectionate. We really do like each other a lot. But we both need, like, we just need things when we sleep. Like, when it's time to sleep, it's time to sleep. And we have a really big bed, so we can get a lot of sleep. There's a lot of room.

[Mike]

I think that's fair.

[Peter Sagal]

The fact that you have taken the step of calling us shows us that you love each other.

[Mike]

Are the sheets, like, super high thread count really nice, or is the blanket extra fine? Perfect blanket.

[Rebecca]

Well, I mean, they both have their pluses. And mine, if they're bamboo sheets. And the blanket is just a really soft blanket. So, I mean, they're both, like, you know. Okay, they're both pretty great, I think.

[Kevin]

But it doesn't matter what the thread count is if you don't have any sheep.

[Mike]

That's the truth.

[Kevin]

Yeah, my thread count is zero. A lot of nights.

[Peter Sagal]

Okay. We've got a real mystery here.

[Mike]

Yeah, this is good. I like this.

[Peter Sagal]

We need a detective. Carlo Catonio is online with us now. He is the Senior VP for Investigative and Risk Mitigation Services and at Bo Dietle and Associates. In other words, he's a detective.

[Mike]

Carlo, how would you approach this case?

[Carlo Catonio]

So we would have their full cooperation and, you know, their consent to perform a full investigation?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Carlo Catonio]

The first step that I would do is, number one, I would want to see the room. I would want to see where the bed is placed, see where Any windows are where any lighting is, the entrances, how many doors go into it, the. The square footage, ceiling height, things like that. And then I would try to. Being that they're consenting and they're on board with it, I would set up cameras and document the activity at night over the course of a week or so and see how this is happening, or if there's something that is unexplainable, then we'd have a lot more data based on that visual evidence.

[Mike]

Oh, do you mean something paranormal?

[Carlo Catonio]

I don't know if it's paranormal, but, I mean, if my intuition is that either Kevin or Rebecca is someone that moves when they're sleeping and, you know, maybe they get hot at night, or maybe one or the other is moving in a way that's, you know, wrapping the sheet around Rebecca and the blanket around Kevin. Yeah, that seems like the most likely.

[Peter Sagal]

What's been so flummoxing to them is that the blanket and the sheet are starting out together. So they can't figure out how it is that Rebecca is ending up with the entirety of the sheet and Kevin has all of the blanket.

[Carlo Catonio]

Yeah, I see the confusion there, because if you're making the bed, you're getting into bed at a certain time. I also want to kind of ask them questions about their bedtime routine. Who goes to sleep first?

[Kevin]

Is it a new bed?

[Carlo Catonio]

Is it a new bedding set? Is it a new sheet?

[Mike]

I could tell you, Carlo, it's. I think these are bamboo sheets. What does that do?

[Carlo Catonio]

Okay. I would like to see how it behaves and see, you know, is it more slippery than, you know, cotton sheets or blend.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Peter Sagal]

So you might. You might go back and build the bed in the lab and experiment with how bamboo sheets might work.

[Carlo Catonio]

Yeah, I mean, I would even say to just see what would happen if you change the bedding. If you tried different sheets, all of that could have a different effect on how your body adheres to the material.

[Peter Sagal]

If you were on this case and the first time you sat down with Kevin and Rebecca, would one of the questions you asked them be, do you have any enemies? Anybody out there who would want to do you harm? Would that be a question you would

[Carlo Catonio]

ask in this particular circumstance? I don't think we'd need to go that far, but in the interest of being a. As thorough as possible, I would ask that. But this case is pretty, to me, seems very solvable.

[Mike]

Yeah, it does, doesn't it? I imagine in a lot of stakeouts, it's just a lot of dead time. You're just hanging out. What are you going to be eating or drinking during this time?

[Carlo Catonio]

So the stakeout, I mean, they want me personally there to have a human eye on it. That's a different story. That would be a first. I've never been invited into a client's bedroom for a week, but if I were to, I would be very respectful. I wouldn't eat or drink while they're sleeping. And I try to be as quiet as possible to minimize any disruptions and affect any of the results.

[Mike]

Well, Carlo, thank you so much for helping us help Kevin and Rebecca.

[Carlo Catonio]

I would love to help Kevin and Rebecca. This would be a pleasure to work on. Many of the cases that I'm working with unfortunately involve a lot higher stakes, but this one seems like a fun one. It seems like it's solvable, and it seems like it's something that I would be able to definitely provide some answers to Kevin and Rebecca on.

[Mike]

And if nothing else, we can invest in a $30 nanny cam, which may solve all our problems for something like this.

[Carlo Catonio]

That would be my first recommendation. Thank you for calling B and H.

[Kevin]

This is the sales operator.

[Carlo Catonio]

How may direct the call?

[Mike]

Hi, I need to buy a camera.

[Carlo Catonio]

Are you sure? So I'll connect you with our photo department here. Just a moment, please.

[Kevin]

Thank you.

[Carlo Catonio]

B and H photo, Wilson speaking.

[Mike]

Hey, Wilson, I'm in the market for, like, a nanny cam. Is that something you could help me with?

[Carlo Catonio]

Nanny cam?

[Mike]

Like a camera that you can, like, set up in a room and monitor.

[Kevin]

I got it. Okay.

[Carlo Catonio]

Not me.

[Kevin]

You probably want to speak to our

[Carlo Catonio]

surveillance people, handle that stuff.

[Kevin]

Could you hold on one minute, please? I can get you to them. This is Ezra in the surveillance department. How may I assist you today?

[Mike]

Hey, Ezra, we're looking for, I guess you'd call it a nanny cam. What's the. What are the prices on like, an entry level?

[Kevin]

Like a hidden camera?

[Mike]

It doesn't have to be hidden. It's really. We have a situation where we're trying to monitor people sleeping overnight.

[Kevin]

Gotcha. Do you have WI fi at the location?

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah, we're trying to investigate if a couple who is stealing the covers in a married couple. Will this have a wide enough sweep to capture all that action?

[Kevin]

So the camera that I typically recommend. Sorry, I put in the wrong part number. What was it? Right.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Kevin]

So the camera that I would normally typically recommend is got like a 100 degree horizontal field of view. So if you mount the camera as close to the corner as you can of the room, you'll see the Entire

[Mike]

room and it's going to be dark. It's nighttime. Is that going to be a problem?

[Kevin]

It has night vision, infrared that can reach up to 30ft away.

[Mike]

Wow. Okay. Let me ask you this question, Ezra. On the off chance that there is some paranormal activity going on, will we be able to capture that with this camera?

[Kevin]

That, I don't know. I can't answer that question, unfortunately.

[Mike]

Which camera does capture that?

[Kevin]

I have no clue.

[Mike]

All right, but do you want me

[Kevin]

to give you the part number of this camera so you can take a look at it?

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah. What's that part number?

[Kevin]

It's T as in tango, P as in papa. T as in tango.

[Mike]

Hello?

[Kevin]

Hello?

[Mike]

Hello? Is that Kevin?

[Kevin]

This is Kevin. Yes, and I'm here with Rebecca.

[Rebecca]

Hello?

[Peter Sagal]

Hey.

[Mike]

How's it going?

[Kevin]

We're good.

[Rebecca]

Pretty good.

[Mike]

Yeah. How'd you sleep last night?

[Rebecca]

We're still together. We're still together, so that's good.

[Carlo Catonio]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

But there. I would say, though, there's something about sort of, like, bringing it up that has made it. I'm, like, almost more aware of the sheet. Blanket issue.

[Mike]

Oh, boy. Okay.

[Rebecca]

I think I'm twirling. I think I'm, like. I think I sort of grabbed the sheet and, like, twirl it around my body. I really. I don't know.

[Mike]

Okay, so maybe it's gotten worse.

[Kevin]

I don't know if it's worse. I think we're more maybe, like, reignited our awareness of it. There's less acceptance.

[Mike]

Well, thank you both for getting back on the phone. We have an update. We've made some progress, and we want to get your buy in on some potential next steps.

[Rebecca]

Okay.

[Peter Sagal]

Okay, well, we just got off the phone with a private investigator who investigates crime scenes and cold cases, and we laid out everything for him, and his recommendation is that for the next step, we send you all a camera and you film a night of sleep, and then Mike and I review the footage.

[Rebecca]

Okay.

[Mike]

Are you willing to do that?

[Kevin]

I feel like, yeah. I mean, yes, but it makes me a little nervous that I'm gonna, like, it's gonna be my fault.

[Mike]

Oh, really?

[Rebecca]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

But, yeah, I mean, curiosity always gets the better of judgment. So, yeah, I'd say fire up the camera.

[Mike]

All right, well, let this be a verbal confirmation that you have agreed to let us watch surveillance tape of you sleeping.

[Kevin]

Let it be that.

[Mike]

Perfect. All right, so we have sent a surveillance camera to Kevin and Rebecca. They're going to set it up, and they're gonna send us the footage.

[Peter Sagal]

We're gonna take a short break and when we come back, we're gonna review the evidence again.

[Mike]

This is two adults sleeping in their beds at night and we're gonna watch.

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[Mike]

Hey, if you have a question and you need some help answering it, maybe you want us to surveil your nighttime routine? Send us your questions. Send them to [e-mail] hey, you never

[Peter Sagal]

know, we may already be watching you with a secret camera in anticipation of your question. On the last episode, we did a little thing after talking about Dolbear's Law. That's the law that allows you to figure out the temperature based on tree cricket chirps. We had played a game where you all had to tell us what the temperature was of the episode. Hundreds upon hundreds of you wrote in.

[Mike]

So many people wrote in. So many people got it right. The answer Ian 56 degrees temperature, which

[Peter Sagal]

would probably kill crickets.

[Mike]

Sorry, crickets. But congratulations to Patty B. Who was the first one with the right answer. Patty B. We're going to send you a T shirt.

[Peter Sagal]

Patty also said, I read an interesting story recently about a man who got horribly ill from kissing his pet bird. He came down with a case of chirpes. Oh, I don't know if that's a true story or not.

[Mike]

We wish your friend all the best, Patty.

[Peter Sagal]

I also want to acknowledge Sam. 12 years old, Sam Rodin and gave us the score. Sam, we're going to send you a T shirt too.

[Mike]

Congratulations, Sam. And finally we Want to acknowledge Cheryl, who was the last person to guess, and guess what, Cheryl, we're going to send you a T shirt too, because we have a bunch of shirts. I don't even know what's on these shirts. These could be. Wait, wait, don't tell me shirts. Maybe we have some old how to do everything shirts. We have a closet that's got a bunch of outdated merchandise. Good news, everybody. You're getting some of it. Some outdated merch.

[Peter Sagal]

And some of these will be game worn by Peter Sagal.

[Mike]

Think about that. A guy who likes to run.

[Peter Sagal]

Okay, we have just received via email a lot of video of Kevin and Rebecca sleeping.

[Mike]

Okay, so it is looks like they're getting ready for bed. It's about 9:46, which I feel like, nice job. Nice and early, I'll say.

[Peter Sagal]

One thing I'm noticing here is how much Kevin is looking directly into the camera. So there may be some observer paradox that we are actually influencing the experiment here.

[Mike]

And I just want to add, I'm glad he's not more comfortable.

[Peter Sagal]

You know, I can only sleep if there are two strangers watching me on camera. Yeah, that'd be weird. All right, it's now 2:36am seeing a lot of movement from Kevin here.

[Mike]

Yeah. Rebecca's position has changed. Oh. And it's changing again.

[Peter Sagal]

Oh, okay. She has a lot of nighttime leg action. She now has one knee up. They didn't tell us. But she wears a sleep mask.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

Which only would enable Kevin to do his bidding without her knowing.

[Mike]

Oh, that's true.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

She's technically blindfolded.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

We've got this very, very surveillance y kind of fisheye lens and a very good view of the bed, although it cuts off the very bottom. So if anything is happening with feet, if feet are the culprit here, we're not gonna know.

[Mike]

Basically, the view that we have is if you had a TV that was across from your bed, like in a hotel room, if the TV was watching you sleep, that's the view we have here.

[Peter Sagal]

And I think that in any hotel room, that's a pretty good bet is that there's a camera and the TV watching you. Oh, okay. I see some foot movement from Kevin.

[Mike]

I think a moth just flew by the camera too. Did you see that?

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah. Some sort of moth or specter. There it is again.

[Mike]

There it is again.

[Kevin]

All right.

[Peter Sagal]

It feels like a separate problem, but Kevin and Rebecca, your room is haunted. What a lot of people who listen to our show don't realize is that for every question that is Sent to us. We ask people to send us a video of them sleeping to help us.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

Better answer their problems.

[Mike]

And I gotta tell, you know who's a sound sleeper is. Autumn's not getting any audio, so it's pretty quiet. Pretty quiet in the room.

[Peter Sagal]

I think we just assume she's making a honk. Shoe sound. We can actually go ahead and add a little bit of that background here.

[Mike]

That leg movement, though, without any arm. Well, now there's some arm movement. Okay, hold on. Here we go. Oh, goodness. We shouldn't see this.

[Kevin]

No.

[Mike]

Okay. I feel bad, really.

[Peter Sagal]

Rebecca has. Now she just. She's. Now she just pushed the covers down and she is on top of the COVID She has no covering on at this point, at 2:37 in the morning. So what we're seeing.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

Kevin fully comfortable under both blanket and sheet, and Rebecca out in the open on top of everything.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Mike]

Oh, there goes Kevin.

[Peter Sagal]

Is he sleepwalking?

[Mike]

Oh, are there birds in that room?

[Peter Sagal]

Feels like it might be confetti. Although as somebody who watches a child on a monitor, from time to time, you do just get weird. Weird effects. Yeah. Oh, my child. I just want to be clear. I'm not just watching a random child on a monitor.

[Mike]

Yeah. Too late. I can't tell what's happening here.

[Peter Sagal]

Oh, he's left the bed. She sat up. She pushed the blanket down.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

And pulled the sheet up.

[Mike]

I don't know. Tell me what you think. I feel like we know what happens. We know what's going on.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah. And I think we know what to tell them.

[Kevin]

All right.

[Mike]

Hello. Hey, how are you?

[Kevin]

I'm doing well. How are you?

[Rebecca]

Hello.

[Mike]

Oh, good, there's Rebecca. Nice.

[Rebecca]

Yep. Yep.

[Mike]

First of all, let me just say thank you for agreeing to let us watch you sleep. Maybe neither. Neither. Maybe none of us in this situation appreciated just how vulnerable it. And intimate this would be.

[Rebecca]

Yeah. Yeah, I think that would be. Yeah. I was really totally felt comfortable. And then it came time for it, and then I was like, yeah, it felt a little bit exposing,

[Peter Sagal]

if it makes you feel better. I also felt very uncomfortable watching. But all that said, I do think after watching, reviewing the footage, I do think we have a pretty good hypothesis for what's going on here.

[Rebecca]

Ooh. Yeah. We're very curious to hear.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

So what we think is happening is you're getting. The comforter is making you too hot. Rebecca kicking everything off of you.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

And then at some point, you're. Then, because you have nothing on you, you're getting too cold again. But you don't want to get too hot again, so you just grab the sheet and pull that up over you.

[Rebecca]

Yeah. Okay.

[Peter Sagal]

And we saw it happen when Kevin was not in the bed. So either what's happening is the jostling of him getting out of bed to go to the bathroom or whatever that's waking you enough that you notice your temperature is not quite right.

[Rebecca]

Or.

[Peter Sagal]

Or Kevin is a heat source. And when he leaves, that's when you need the blank, the sheet.

[Rebecca]

So either way, it's his fault.

[Mike]

Well, I don't know that it's really. I don't know that it's anyone's fault. Right. Like, you get cold, you pull the sheet up, Kevin returns to the bed. Maybe your grip on the sheet is so tight, you've got this golem like strength on it. And he has no choice. He grabs the comforter.

[Peter Sagal]

He's left with no other option.

[Mike]

No other option. And so what we see in that video is Rebecca turn facing outward with the sheet, Kevin facing the other way with the comforter.

[Kevin]

Yeah. The thing that was so confusing to both of us was how the sheet and the blanket moved in opposite directions. But when you understand that she separates the sheet from the blanket.

[Mike]

Right, right.

[Kevin]

It sort of starts to make more sense. And then we both become pillars of our respective layer.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

We are all but pullers of our respective layer in this world. If I were to give a prescription here, I think you got to get. I think you got to get rid of your comforter. I think the comforter is the root of the problems.

[Rebecca]

Hmm, interesting. That's like a down comforter. And we're, you know, we're in the north, so it's cold, and so we're going to be switching here soon to a lighter comforter. And, you know, maybe that will. Maybe it'll be different, but I will have to see. We'll have to check that out.

[Peter Sagal]

I could tell it was a heavy comforter just from the violence with which you kicked it off of yourself.

[Rebecca]

I was really angry. I'm really angry if I'm too hot.

[Kevin]

Yeah. That's been one of the. When we have argued about this.

[Rebecca]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Is I have. I have told her several times, you don't actually need to throw the blankets off. You can just remove them.

[Mike]

It's fascinating because I do think one of the things that people say is you never know. You never actually know what's going on in a marriage. And I feel like, you know what? Ian and I do.

[Peter Sagal]

Yeah, we do.

[Mike]

We've seen it. We've seen it.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Mike]

All right, Kevin and Rebecca, thank you so much, and we hope you sleep well tonight.

[Rebecca]

Thank you, Mike, Ian, take care.

[Mike]

All right. Bye, everybody. Bye. Bye.

[Kevin]

Bye.

[Mike]

Well, thank you. That does it for this week's show. What'd you learn, Ian?

[Peter Sagal]

Well, I'll say this, you know, in Gmail when you're sending somebody an email and it suggests the AI suggests some possible responses. When we got all this video of Kevin and Rebecca, two strangers sleeping.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

The first suggested response from I guess Google Gemini to me was to reply to them, sleep. So cute.

[Mike]

What did you respond to them with?

[Peter Sagal]

I didn't. I. I don't know if the four of us, you and me and Kevin and Rebecca.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Peter Sagal]

Can ever speak to each other again after the things we've seen.

[Mike]

Do you think you would you feel comfortable now watching, watching Rebecca and Kevin sleep? Do you think we could fit in there Willy Wonka style, the four of us?

[Peter Sagal]

It's a big bed. And as, as they both said, while they love each other very much, they left a lot of room in between them. I love that we'd be in between them in this fantasy.

[Mike]

Huh? It's not exactly the layout I had in mind.

[Peter Sagal]

I just love that you had a layout in mind. How to Do Everything is produced by Skyler Swenson with technical direction from Warner White.

[Mike]

Our interns this week are Kevin and Rebecca.

[Peter Sagal]

Get us your [e-mail] I'm Ian.

[Mike]

And I'm Mike.

[Kevin]

Right.

[Peter Sagal]

Next,

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