#3446 RHOC S20E01 Part Two: Speak From The Heart

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #3446: RHOC S20E01 Part Two: "Speak From The Heart"

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Original Air Date: July 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Ben and Ronnie continue their irreverent, joke-packed recap of The Real Housewives of Orange County (RHOC) Season 20, Episode 1 – specifically the second half ("Speak From the Heart"). The hosts break down all the delicious Bravo drama, dissecting everything from Gina’s engagement dilemma to Heather’s opulent “heart” party (complete with $75,000 price tag, slide, and real diamonds), plus a new cast member with a Playboy Mansion past, and the resurrection of old feuds. With trademark banter, shade, and spot-on impressions, Ben and Ronnie revel in the hilarious details, snarky one-liners, and interpersonal messiness that only RHOC can deliver.

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Key Discussion Points & Segment Timestamps

1. Gina’s Engagement & The Last Name Debate

[03:30 – 08:30]

• Engagement Reveal: The hosts poke fun at Gina’s engagement to Travis, including the awkward, slightly tacky proposal (fur vest, crown, leaking gutter).
  • “It’s weird to get engaged on New Year’s Eve—a day for promises you’ll never keep.” - Ronnie (06:01)
• Last Name Dilemma: Gina is torn between keeping her name for her kids' sake or taking Travis’s name for traditional reasons.
  • Mom suggests: “How do you hyphenate a 14-letter last name? ... I’m going to be on customer service for the rest of my life spelling that name.” (05:10)
• Host Commentary: The guys bemoan the trend of major life events on holidays, calling it a drag for everyone else’s plans.

2. Heather Dubrow’s Family & Mother-Daughter Dynamics

[09:27 – 16:49]

• Heather’s Mom Moves to LA: Comic, semi-hostile banter between Heather and her mother as she settles into LA.
  • “Last time it was terrifying. Actually, it kind of still is—because you’re my mother. I do comedy now.” - Ronnie as Heather (10:12)
• Family Regrets: Heather probes her mom about missing time with grandkids, sparking passive-aggressive barbs, and even an Adam Sandler tangent.
  • “Adam Sandler made the effort to visit his mom in the Hamptons—so could you!” (16:49)
• Host Highlight: Ben and Ronnie eat up the dynamic, noting that Heather’s mom “is a pill—she comes on with all the zingers just to avoid looking bad on camera.”

3. Prepping for Heather’s $75k "Heart" Party

[17:09 – 19:04]

• Party Fanfare: Discussion of Heather’s over-the-top party—hearts everywhere, fishing for diamonds, tattoo booth, etc.
  • “I think the only thing to be upset about with this party is the price: $75,000. Alfredo!” (18:43)
• Host Banter: They joke about the extravagant display—"Come to my party, maybe one of you poor people can find a diamond!"

4. Weight Loss Talk & Toxic Compliments in OC

[19:15 – 21:10]

• Emily’s New Look: Arriving at the party, Emily is met with a chorus of “Oh my God, you’re so skinny!” Comments.
  • “You look so healthy—or whatever you’re supposed to say these days. Not ‘skinny’—but it’s Orange County, they didn’t get the memo.” (19:41)
• Hosts’ Take: Ben and Ronnie explore the awkwardness of body comments—“If you lose weight and nobody says anything, you get mad, but if they do, it’s weird.”

5. Jeep Ducks & Meaningless Trinkets

[21:41 – 22:22]

• Emily’s Bag of Ducks and Babies: Bemusement over gifting rubber ducks for Jeep owners and the origin of this “Jeep ducking” trend.
  • “I’d be so excited to have a duck on my car… People are no fun!” (22:19)

6. The Introduction of New “Feisty” Cast Member Carmela

[25:28 – 27:10]

• Carmela’s Resume: A real estate agent, Cleveland native, former Playboy Playmate, and friend of Jen’s.
  • “So many layers to Carmela—black hair, playmate, Cleveland. Just stacking up!” (26:37)
• Playboy Mansion Anecdotes: Carmela clarifies she never slept with Hef—and the hosts joke about the dated, sad cultural references involved.

7. Arrival and Social Jockeying at Heather’s Party

[27:44 – 35:16]

• Housewives’ Arrivals: Body shaming slips, Tamara vs. Emily tension, Shannon’s “little girl’s church dress,” and Nikki Dubrow as awkward emcee.
  • “Heather is so clearly positioning him to be on Next Gen Los Angeles. Look at him, America!” (36:58)
• Party Setup: Real tattoo booth, ice luge fun, and random party details like slide and “fishing for diamonds.”

8. Vicki Gunvalson’s Money Shade & The RHOC Wealth Discourse

[32:07 – 35:27]

• Vicki’s Media Shade: Clips surface of Vicki subtly implying the Dubrows “inherited all their money.”
  • “Vicki, our mothers are alive—where did we inherit money from?” - Heather (53:08)
• Hosts’ Take: Ben and Ronnie break down the real-estate hustle, Terry’s career, and how old rivalries are stoked with snide podcast remarks.
  • “Heather is so obsessed with refuting this, she’s just making people wonder more about where their money came from.” (55:26)

9. Tattoos, Dramatic Toasts, and New Grievances

[44:22 – 51:01]

• Heather’s Speech: “Welcome to my party—hearts and farts, celebrating what else? Friendship. I just wanted to celebrate new friends—about to say old friends… historical friends!” (44:24)
• Tattoo Antics: Tamara and Heather get tiny tattoos; hosts crack up over the low stakes.
  • “This tattoo is like when Lisa Kudrow on Friends got the world—just a dot!” (49:06)

10. Conflict Conflagration: Accusations, Boxes, and Broken Trust

[46:08 – End]

• Jen Instigates: Jen stirs the pot, telling Tamara that Heather “puts her in a box,” prompting suspicion and confusion.
  • “Are you really my real friend? Putting me in boxes—I could suffocate, kind of breaks my heart.” - Ronnie as Tamara (58:13)
• Heather Confronts: Heather is exasperated by accusations of talking behind backs, reiterating her “unbothered” era and refusing to “go backwards.”
• Hosts’ Recap: Everyone is gunning for petty drama, accountability is minimal, and Jen is quickly shaping into a classic Housewife by both stirring drama and dodging responsibility.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the “Engagement On Holidays” Trend:

  • “It never happens. Do not get engaged on a day where people lie to themselves.” – Ronnie (06:18)

• Heather’s Mother on LA vs. NY:

  • “God created Los Angeles, but he lives in New York. Badamcha.” (11:14)

• On Heather’s $75,000 Party:

  • “I think the only thing to be upset about is the price. $75,000—Alfredo!” – Heather (18:43)

• Emily’s New Look:

  • “When you lose weight everyone acts like you’ve been cured of cancer. ‘Oh my God. Thank God!’” – Ronnie (19:47)

• On Vicki Gunvalson’s Wealth Remarks:

  • “Doctors don’t live in $40 million homes, or even $20 million... Maybe it’s her award-winning acting that pays for all this.” – Vicki (54:31)

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Summary Table of Key Segments & Timestamps

| Segment | Topics/Highlights | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Gina’s Engagement | Proposal details, last name dilemma | 03:30–08:30 | | Heather & Her Mom | Family tension, Adam Sandler joke | 09:27–16:49 | | Heather’s Heart Party | Extravagance, party setup, diamonds, slide | 17:09–19:04 | | Weight Loss Discourse | Emily’s “skinny” comments, OC culture | 19:15–21:10 | | Jeep Ducks & Trinkets | Rubber ducks for Jeeps | 21:41–22:22 | | Meet Carmela | Playboy past, new Housewife | 25:28–27:10 | | Social Jockeying at Party | Entrances, Nikki emcee, fashion shade | 27:44–36:58 | | Vicki’s Money Shade | Podcast shade, inheritance debate | 32:07–35:27 | | Tattoos, Toasts, Tangled Alliances | Tiny tattoos, awkward speeches, shifting alliances| 44:22–51:01 | | Accountability & Box-Gate | Jen stirs drama, trust fracturing | 46:08–End |

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Tone & Takeaway

The episode delivers the classic Watch What Crappens blend of Bravo-insider humor, snark, and genuine affection for the franchise and its foibles. Ben and Ronnie expertly mimic cast voices, escalate the show’s petty conflicts to comic heights, and spotlight the unique absurdity of RHOC’s first episode of season 20.

Final Note: Expect cracks at OC’s toxic body standards, party one-upmanship, and the endless cycle of fighting over who said what—plus a hearty serving of beloved Housewives catchphrases and Bravo lore.

Transcript

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[Podcast Host 3]

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[Podcast Host 2]

So Vicky's like, how about we go to the, you know, how about we

[Podcast Host 4]

go to the beach?

[Heather Dubrow]

I've got a zoom.

[Podcast Host 2]

I've got.

[Heather Dubrow]

I've got four zoom calls to do, though, because you know what? I love having a life partner.

[Podcast Host 2]

I never thought, like, Don and I would break up or Brooks, well, that was a different story.

[Heather Dubrow]

But I can't handle another breakup. I can't. I can't do it. I can't.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm like, well, guess what? It's probably gonna happen based on your trial. The expiration date is coming up soon. It's been four years.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well, gird your loins, sister.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, so. Well, so.

[Podcast Host 4]

By the way, Billy, my friend Heather is having a Valentine's Day party.

[Podcast Host 2]

And chances are I won't be there because, like, you know, residency, but I'm

[Heather Dubrow]

gonna be here all by myself.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm in, like, Mexican jail.

[Podcast Host 4]

So.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, so we find out that she does. She's trying to get her Mexican residency, but she's. She has to wait or something. And she's not supposed to leave Mexico until she gets a certain card, but it's not looking good. So she might be stuck in Mexico forever.

[Jen]

Forever.

[Podcast Host 3]

Forever.

[Heather Dubrow]

Forever.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

God, immigration should be easier, Am I right?

[Podcast Host 2]

So now we go back up to Orange county, and here's what she's missing up there. Gina chopping pillows.

[Tamara]

I feel bad.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Flick.

[Podcast Host 2]

And her mom Susan emerges. And Susan's like, I decided to style

[Tamara]

myself as Tom Petty today.

[Podcast Host 2]

So they are. They've got lunch that's arrived. And Travis heading off to a listing appointment.

[Tamara]

And Gina's like, the gated group has been, like, booming. There's like, not a one bedroom apartment in all of Orange county that has not been sold by us at this point. Like, every year that we're in business, like, we double our business. So, like, first year we had one sale. Second year we had two sales. This year we had four sales. Watch out.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Look out, world.

[Podcast Host 3]

So this scene is about Gina getting engaged. It's very exciting. And we find out Gina's storyline for the season. Should she take Travis's last name or keep her own? And it's a huge decision. She wants to keep her own because it keeps her, you know, close to the kids because that's their last name. But Travis wants her to have his last name because he's a man. And it's going to be weird for a man to be married to a woman who don't have the same last name.

[Heather Dubrow]

I mean, what the Hell is this?

[Podcast Host 3]

So, yeah, the mom's like, well, you know, you could hyphenate.

[Shannon]

She's like, how can you hyphenate a 14 letter last name? Carson? Hide them all. And come on, I'm gonna be on

[Vicki Gunvalson]

customer service for the rest of my

[Podcast Host 2]

life spelling out, spelling that name. And that cracked me up.

[Podcast Host 3]

But on the customer service note, Mullen is a lot easier.

[Podcast Host 2]

I just, I'm about to say, if you've already got. If you're already going through Kershen hider, you might as well just add Mullen onto it. Because that point, it's just, it's all just. It's too much.

[Tamara]

Do you want to hear my name? I feel bad. It's a lot of lettuce.

[Podcast Host 2]

We also see a video of Travis proposing to Gina up in like big bear or arrowhead or something. And she's just like in this fur vest and she has like a little crown on that.

[Shannon]

I.

[Podcast Host 2]

Maybe it's like a New Year's crown or something. And they're like outside and like, it's like you hear like water dripping out of a gutter and everything. And she's like, oh, my God.

[Shannon]

Oh my God, I feel mad. Yes. Oh, my God, I feel so the opposite of bad right now.

[Podcast Host 3]

I did think it's weird to get engaged right then because, like, New Year's is where you make promises you don't keep, and we all know it. You know, that's the day you're like,

[Jen]

oh my God, this is the year

[Podcast Host 3]

I'm going to work out every day. Or this is the year I'm going to.

[Jen]

You know.

[Podcast Host 3]

So I think that's been my only resolution for 50 years. This year I'm going to start working out. It never happens. It never happens. Do not get engaged on a day where people lie to themselves.

[Podcast Host 2]

I just don't like people doing milestone things on holidays or long weekends. I think it's obnoxious and rude because now, like, if someone else wants to celebrate that weekend or that day, they can't quite because they almost always are obligated to do something pertaining to that milestone, you know, so it's like, oh my God, I'm having a wedding on Memorial Day weekend. It's like, I, I don't have any three day weekends and now I have to spend my whole three day weekend going to your wedding. It's like, I don't like that. And like, I get it because you're thinking like, this way you don't have

[Jen]

to take off work.

[Podcast Host 2]

You can come to my wedding. It's like, I would rather have an excuse to take off work because then I have a work take off work excuse and I have a three day wedding and now I only get one of those things and I can't do the thing that I want. Like, don't do the wedding on New Year's. Don't.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well, this is just the engagement, but

[Podcast Host 2]

you know, it's going to be a,

[Tamara]

like, guys, every New Year's we're going to celebrate my engagement.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's always going to be a thing.

[Tamara]

And like,

[Podcast Host 2]

yeah, I don't like doubling up on holidays. I think it's obnoxious. Like, well, you also have a holiday.

[Podcast Host 3]

You also have to think of yourself. You know, I always say, don't only think about your wedding, think about your possible divorce. Like, don't only think about who you're going to marry, think about who you're going to divorce. Because that person could be a monster. You have to see them in a car, how angry they get in traffic, or how they treat, you know, puppies who are too clawy on them. Or, you know, you have to see people's bad side and also think about the holiday because if you get divorced, you're always going to think of New Year's Day. Like, this is the day I got engaged. Like, my sister got married on Valentine's Day, which was great when she got married, but it's not great now. I mean, Valentine's Day sucks enough when you're single without having that extra, oh, remember you were divorced today. Well, yeah, or you were. This is when you were married and now you're divorced. Well, have some chocolate.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. And I guarantee, by the way, going forward, this is what New Year's Day, New Year's Eve looks like in the world of Gina.

[Podcast Host 4]

It's like, hey, Gina, we're gonna have like a New Year's Eve party.

[Podcast Host 2]

Do you want to come?

[Tamara]

I can't because that's actually the anniversary of our engagement, so we usually go out to dinner.

[Podcast Host 2]

So now it's like, okay, well, now you can't come to my party.

[Shannon]

Or.

[Tamara]

Or then it becomes actually like, I know you're having a party, but since it's our anniversary, we're gonna have a party. So do you want to come to my party instead?

[Podcast Host 2]

And then you're like, well, I guess I have to go to Gina's. Goes to certain gate.

[Heather Dubrow]

Like, she's always gonna be pulling the

[Podcast Host 2]

engagement card on New Year's and I don't know what form it will take. But every form it's going to take is going to be annoying. Like, let New Year's be New Year's. Do the engagement on another day. I'm sorry, that's how I feel. No, no doubling up on holidays. Unless it's, like, out of your control, like a birthday.

[Podcast Host 3]

Okay, well, too late, because she's engaged on New Year, so.

[Podcast Host 2]

And guess what? It's going to suck for everyone in her orbit every New Year's Eve, I guarantee.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. So now we go over to Heather's mom's new house. Heather has. Heather's mom has just moved to la. And Heather walks in, she's like, oh,

[Vicki Gunvalson]

my God, mom, how did you do this? Everything is already so put together.

[Heather Dubrow]

Well, I went like this.

[Podcast Host 2]

And she does, like the Ijuma genie nose thing. Or actually Bewitched. No, that was Genie.

[Heather Dubrow]

Right?

[Stacy]

I.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well, she did the. The genie arm cross, but then she did the Bewitched Wiggle. Yeah. And I think they did it like the sound effect from Sondland. They mixed. They mixed.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

She did like us. Barbara Eden and Elizabeth Montgomery bullshit right there. So Heather's like, wow, Last time it was.

[Heather Dubrow]

I was here, it was terrifying. Actually, it kind of still is terrifying because you're my mother. I do comedy now.

[Podcast Host 2]

So Carol is like. She's talking about her unpacking and everything. And Heather is like, oh, did you

[Heather Dubrow]

put all those things in the room? Is it like where you open up the door and it's going to be like an avalanche of things that I bought for you?

[Podcast Host 3]

That's like such a sitcom thing where you open the door and everything falls on your head? And she's like, well, it was very

[Vicki Gunvalson]

important to me that my mother. And it was very important to me and my sister that my mother move closer. Because when my dad got sick, I had to fly to New York to

[Podcast Host 3]

find doctors and blah, blah, blah.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

My mom's old. I'm not flying to New York again. She can go to doctors here. Besides, we've got Terry.

[Podcast Host 3]

My mom's heart hurts.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

He'll just put a boob in it.

[Heather Dubrow]

Really? The producer said I have to put some family on. I was. Either I bring my mother on screen or I finally show America that I have a sister. And I said, no, no, no.

[Podcast Host 2]

She doesn't get to see the Day of Light.

[Heather Dubrow]

So, mom, it is.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

So how do we feel about moving?

[Podcast Host 3]

And the mom's like, well, Heather, God created Los Angeles, but he lives in New York. Badamcha.

[Podcast Host 2]

She just stares. She stares at her mom so angrily.

[Heather Dubrow]

Just how Long did we practice that?

[Podcast Host 2]

Because she is actually low key mad that, like, that was a line she probably wanted to use in a confessional.

[Heather Dubrow]

Oh, really, Mother? So we're just gonna be funny after I had an entire season of being a comic actress?

[Podcast Host 2]

Alfredo, no, no, not now.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well, it didn't take me long, Heather. But it is such a good line, isn't it?

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Like, okay, well, now that you're here, Hilar said, what's the plan? You going to join a bridge group? You gonna, I don't know, bury yourself? You're gonna do something where you're not calling me and bothering me all the time, trying to outdo me with one liners? You're no Rodney Dangerfield, mother.

[Podcast Host 2]

Well, Beverly Hills built bridge club. I'm gonna do that. And I want to see you more. I want to see the grandkids more.

[Heather Dubrow]

Well, as long as you don't go to my sister's house, I'll be happy.

[Podcast Host 2]

But actually, what she says is, when she says, I want to see the grandkids more, Heather goes, well, they're gone.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Nice timing. You missed them. The bus you took to get here was a little late, mother.

[Podcast Host 3]

And she says, did my mom miss out?

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Well, the short answer is yes. Max and Gear graduating college. Cat's really enjoying her freshman year. Yeah, thank you. And then Ace started high school. It is bizarre having Ace in the house and only Ace. It just happened.

[Podcast Host 3]

Blink of an eye, Boom.

[Milo]

Wow.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

I keep blinking and my mother is still there. Guess that magic doesn't just keep working for the entire scene, does it?

[Heather Dubrow]

Well, Mother, since I am in my feel good, carefree era, let me ask you this. Do you ever regret not being here? Because I'm just curious.

[Podcast Host 2]

And she's like, excuse me.

[Heather Dubrow]

Do you look back and go, maybe we should have gotten a place near the girls so we could have been around when the grandkids are growing up.

[Podcast Host 2]

She's like, well, I mean, living. You got your own lives.

[Heather Dubrow]

I know, but there's a lot of grandparents that have a place near them. And they help and they drive them, Mother.

[Jen]

Excuse me. Heather, we flew in for everything we

[Vicki Gunvalson]

had to fly in for. Well, that's not really the same thing as driving them to soccer practices, etc. There are only so many Alfredos in the world. Mother,

[Podcast Host 2]

you know what? Your father was working.

[Heather Dubrow]

He retired when the twins were born.

[Podcast Host 4]

Remind me the twins are again. Who are the twins?

[Podcast Host 2]

Is that your servants?

[Podcast Host 3]

I don't even know any twins. Heather, who are you talking about?

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Yes, that's why he wasn't at Nikki's breed. Brie.

[Tamara]

Bri.

[Podcast Host 3]

Pronounce it brisk.

[Podcast Host 2]

It is bris.

[Jen]

Sorry. Brisk.

[Heather Dubrow]

Nikki. Nikki brought some breed to the brisk.

[Tamara]

She says.

[Heather Dubrow]

Oh, God.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, God.

[Heather Dubrow]

It's true.

[Podcast Host 2]

Well, you know, you had your own life too, Heather. You didn't want to come to where we were.

[Heather Dubrow]

I had four kids, Mom. I couldn't drag four kids across the country all the time.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well, most people would visit their grandparents once a year. You could have come to the Hamptons. Adam Sandler came.

[Heather Dubrow]

She goes, great. What does that mean? What are you talking about?

[Podcast Host 3]

Sandler came with the camper and his wife's grandma to see his mother.

[Heather Dubrow]

What are you talking about? The name of a famous actor in my presence.

[Podcast Host 3]

I'm talking about Adam Sandler coming to West Hampton Beach. Okay. I mean, we were in quote, of course, but, you know, he still said I was very, very funny.

[Heather Dubrow]

There is the most insane conversation.

[Podcast Host 3]

It's not.

[Jen]

You're pointing fingers. And I'm telling you, Adam Sandler was a better child than you.

[Heather Dubrow]

You wouldn't change anything.

[Jen]

I would.

[Podcast Host 3]

I would have seen Waterboy in the theaters because there's a man that deserves support.

[Heather Dubrow]

If. If you ask my mom about anything, she will tell you about where she traveled and what she's done, because that's what's important to her.

[Jen]

Well, you were creating a career and you were busy.

[Podcast Host 3]

Busier than Adam Sandler. I respect that. I respect that. You know one thing that Andy. Sorry. Sandler always says when he comes and sees me. You have children?

[Jen]

I say, yeah, I do.

[Heather Dubrow]

It would be nice to think that my mom in her older years would be a little bit more emotional or connected, but she's just not self actualized like that. I'm curious to see if that changes.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

So where are the rest of dad's ashes, Mother? You broke them into thirds.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's like, well, you had one of them.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Where's the third? You lost it. You lost it.

[Podcast Host 3]

I did not lose it. It's an Adam Sandler's camper.

[Jen]

I trusted him to hold on to it.

[Heather Dubrow]

You lost dad.

[Podcast Host 2]

She just hates her mom.

[Podcast Host 3]

She really.

[Podcast Host 2]

She's like. But her mom is totally unfair. She's like, oh, please. I've been dealing with this for 40 years.

[Podcast Host 3]

And this is her mom being nice because we've seen her mom on camera before and she is a pill. And her mom's like, oh, really? You think you're gonna make me look stupid again? I'm gonna come on here with some one one liners and an Adam Sandler reference. Let's see how well you do. Making me look like a jerk.

[Podcast Host 2]

The Adam Sandler thing was hilarious because she made it seem like Adam Sandler really did visit her, but she's just like, no. Just saying that Adam Sandler was able to make the effort to go to the Hamptons, so you should be able to make the effort to go to the Hamptons.

[Podcast Host 3]

Adam Sandler is rich as hell, and he can get in a. A camper to go see his family.

[Milo]

Heather.

[Heather Dubrow]

Wow.

[Podcast Host 2]

So now we go to Tamara's house, and Tamara's getting. Getting in glam, and she's like, well,

[Gina]

it's a Heather party, so I'm sure I'm gonna be absolutely, absolutely beautiful party. I won't let anybody ruffle my feathers.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. And she's like, yeah, I'm in my 50s.

[Shannon]

I changed my party. I'm a good person now. I don't want to lose my anymore. I mean, come on. If they don't, like, just gonna say, sorry. I'm so sorry that my feelings were hurt. I'm sorry, but you want me to say.

[Podcast Host 3]

Then we go to Shannon, and she's in glam, and it looks like she's staring off into space, but she's actually looking at this little vial of testosterone. It's like, all right, I need to take my testosterone.

[Jen]

Oh, God.

[Milo]

Oh, no.

[Tamara]

This has great seed oil.

[Shannon]

Oh, God.

[Podcast Host 3]

I'm gonna shoot it up anyway.

[Jen]

If anything happens to me, you better

[Shannon]

call the seed oil people.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Let them know.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then we go to the party venue, and Sandra, the party planner, is showing Heather everything. There's, like. Everything is hearts. There's, like, fishing for diamonds. There's a tattoo station. There's photos, everything.

[Heather Dubrow]

It's a Heather Dubrow party. So obviously, I have a lot going on. I just think the last time we were all together, it got very dark, and I just want to have a little lightness and a little love and a little fun and a little frivolity. I think the only thing to be upset about with this party is the price. $75,000. I said, the only thing to be upset about with this party is the price. The price, Alfredo.

[Emily]

The price.

[Podcast Host 2]

Come on, Alfredo.

[Heather Dubrow]

Come on. Is my drum. Is my drum.

[Podcast Host 3]

Sound effect playing Fishing for diamonds. So she put real diamonds in this thing for people to go get. I mean, that's a party. You know, it's Heather.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

I come to my party, maybe one of you poor people can find a diamond. It's going to be hilarious.

[Podcast Host 3]

So Heather goes down the slide to prove how fun she Is. And people start coming in. We go to the car. One of the cars where Gina's picking up Emily. Everyone who sees Emily's like, oh, my

[Shannon]

God, you so skinny. You're so skinny. Oh, my God. I can't believe it.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, I feel like from all I've learned, you're really, like. That's not what you're really supposed to say. I think you're supposed to say, oh, my God, you look so healthy. Or whatever. Like, isn't it like the. Oh, my God, you look skinny.

[Heather Dubrow]

You actually look.

[Podcast Host 2]

This is the best you've ever looked. Is supposed to be, like, really toxic language that you're supposed. That you sit to say to someone. Right.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well, it's Orange County. They didn't get that.

[Podcast Host 4]

They don't.

[Podcast Host 2]

They don't get that. Yeah, they didn't get that memo. So Emily has.

[Podcast Host 3]

But, yeah, it is weird when you lose weight and then everybody acts like you've been cured of cancer, you know? Oh, my God.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Thank God.

[Podcast Host 3]

I didn't want to say anything earlier, but, God, you look amazing.

[Jen]

Jesus.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Thank God.

[Podcast Host 3]

You don't look the same as you did the rest of this time I've known you, you were really idiots. Never wanted to say anything about it. But we can talk now. Like, two skinny people to two skinny people. Right? Right.

[Podcast Host 2]

No, it's like. I was like, I don't think this is right. So Emily gets.

[Podcast Host 3]

But then, on the other hand, if you lose a bunch of weight and you walk in somewhere and then nobody says anything, you're like, what the hell? Nobody even said, you know, like, you really can't win. But you're right. Nobody. You're not supposed to tell people not really skinny.

[Podcast Host 2]

You're supposed to say, oh, wow, you're looking healthy or whatever.

[Podcast Host 3]

So, like, if you're in my family, you say, are you sick?

[Podcast Host 2]

So Emily, she gets in this car,

[Emily]

and she's like, well, guys, big update. I went downstairs with my bag. It didn't have anything in it. So Annabelle was like, do you want me to fill it up with stuff? And I thought she meant gum and lip gloss. And it's like 8,000 babies and ducks

[Podcast Host 2]

and so Brit, who's Gina's ex's new girlfriend or wife, is like, well, you know what you're supposed to do with them?

[Emily]

Throw them at women I don't like.

[Podcast Host 3]

No, but what are you supposed to do with them? I wanted to know the answer to this, and we never got it.

[Podcast Host 2]

So.

[Podcast Host 3]

Thanks, Emily.

[Podcast Host 2]

The ducks go on the Jeeps. That's what we Learned from Rosie.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well, you know, I have one of those ducks behind me. I'm going to show it to you because I thought of this the other day.

[Tamara]

Look.

[Jen]

Look what?

[Vicki Gunvalson]

I have this little duck.

[Podcast Host 3]

But my niece used to make these as, like, peace ducks. And she would get, like, hundreds of these little rubber ducks, and she would write on the bottom of them, like, a positive message. The positive message is worn off, but you can see she tried. It's something like, I love you and you're great. And then she would, like, leave them for people as little gifts.

[Podcast Host 2]

Well, that's nice. Cute.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't know what the babies are for. I don't know if the babies go on a different car. But one thing we learned from Rosie on Rhode island is that people with Jeep Wranglers receive ducks. And my friend has a Jeep Wrangler. And I was like, do you get the ducks? And she's like, I hate it. Because then she's like, it's like, happens all the time. Stupid little ducks in my car. Like, what am I supposed to do? The duck?

[Heather Dubrow]

I was like, I feel you.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't even have. I don't even get the ducks. I just.

[Jen]

You save it.

[Podcast Host 3]

And then you put it on another person's car. Pay the duck forward. Geez, people are no fun.

[Emily]

Throw it at women you don't like.

[Podcast Host 3]

I'd be so excited to come out and have a duck on my car.

[Jen]

Like, yes, I got something.

[Podcast Host 2]

Somebody was thinking of me. It's a duck. I want a nice coffee on my car.

[Podcast Host 3]

I look at the bottom of the duck. It's like, are you sick, mother?

[Podcast Host 2]

Judgy duck. Yes. Adam Sandler sent this duck to West Hampton.

[Podcast Host 3]

Adam Sandler visited his mother. Like, okay, Mom, I got it.

[Podcast Host 2]

Just messages from Carol.

[Podcast Host 3]

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[Podcast Host 3]

Then we talk about this new girl who's joining. It's going to be a new girl, Jen. And Jen's bringing her in. Her name is Carmela.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

And

[Podcast Host 3]

Emily's like, well, she's a real estate agent.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Gina goes, oh wow, Jen needs one

[Shannon]

because I am never taking that job again.

[Podcast Host 2]

So Jen and Carmela hop into her car and then Jen is like, oh

[Podcast Host 4]

Carmela, I've I've never seen this like a feisty, this feisty side of you.

[Podcast Host 2]

She goes, well I'm from Cleveland so

[Podcast Host 4]

you know, oh yeah, it's in there.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's like, yep. When I think of feisty I'm like, cleveland, Ohio, feisty capital of the world.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, I think it think of the Drew Carey show.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, yeah, I guess there was that lady with the eyeshadow. So Jen's like, carmel and I used

[Podcast Host 4]

to have the same hairdresser for years. You know, like how you meet people and just feel like you know them forever. Mainly because you're dressed as Tamara because you have her extensions in your head. Anyway, he was like, with that. Like, with that, with Carmel. And she's like, you know, she's got, like, a little edge to her, mainly because she has black hair, which is, like, crazy. And, like, she used to be a playmate, so, I mean, we could just

[Heather Dubrow]

go on and on.

[Podcast Host 4]

Black hair, playmate, Cleveland. Just like, so many layers to Carmelo.

[Podcast Host 2]

That was really funny.

[Jen]

She goes, and she used to be a playmate. Just so many layers. So many layers.

[Podcast Host 2]

So many layers to her.

[Podcast Host 3]

It's like what the opposite of a book is. So Jen's like, okay, well, when you

[Jen]

lived at the Playboy Mansion, did you have a bedroom there?

[Vicki Gunvalson]

She's like, oh, I lived in the

[Podcast Host 3]

bunny house, and that was across the street from the Playboy Mansion.

[Jen]

She's, well, did you enjoy Hugh Huffner?

[Podcast Host 3]

She's like, oh, everyone thinks, did I sleep with him?

[Jen]

I did not.

[Podcast Host 3]

Listen, I've seen the show and I've seen the documentary, and this is all depressing. This is not really the time to

[Vicki Gunvalson]

be like, oh, yes, I lived at the Playboy Mansion.

[Podcast Host 3]

It's so sad, you know, all this. I don't think there's been a story that's come out of there that's not depressing. So forgive me for not woohooing your storyline.

[Podcast Host 2]

All right, Carmela. Well, I went to the Playboy Mansion once, and it was the craziest collection of people I've ever seen. At one point, I saw Gloria Allred, Anna Nicole Smith, and Jesse Jackson all talking together.

[Podcast Host 3]

And I was like, don't forget Scott Baio.

[Podcast Host 2]

This. I did not see Scott Bayo, but he probably was there, most likely. And there was a crowd by the bar, and I got wedged between Tiffany and Stephen Dwarf, and I thought, this is life right here. So then we. They were arriving at the party, and Tamara and Emily.

[Tamara]

Tamara's like, oh, my God, B, look

[Gina]

how skinny you are. Holy. Oh, my God. It's like a new person. I'm, like, scared.

[Shannon]

Wow.

[Gina]

I'm so glad Emily's not here, because that's stupid. It's like, oh, my God, it's you.

[Tamara]

Why?

[Gina]

That's crazy.

[Shannon]

Where's the other half of you, besides your still terrible person. But you skinny. Now

[Gina]

tell the other part of you that's not here that her podcast isn't allowed on my network. But you, you get a private spot.

[Podcast Host 2]

So Emily is like, well, I do

[Emily]

struggle with Tamara because I do care about her, and I know that she does care about me, and I just wish that she would take accountability for what she said. But I've got to hear that.

[Podcast Host 3]

Emily, I've never heard you take accountability for anything at any time on any season. So I. I don't want to hear it from you. I will say Emily seems very sad this season. Right? Like, usually Emily's like, here's a wacky thing. Like, she's trying to be, like, wacky and fun. I mean, later she does bounce in the bounce house, so I guess she gets that in. But, yeah, she seems, like, super morose.

[Podcast Host 2]

Well, that's what the preview showed. That, like, those issues with Shane kids growing up, the kids are maybe having some issues. I think she's like, the party. The party may be up.

[Emily]

Don't forget.

[Podcast Host 2]

This is someone who's like, it's sort of been tiptoed around, but she's like, spends all day in bed. That was actually on Wife Swap. She's like, I got home and I just go into bed, and I just. Or she's like, lying in bed all day. Like, there's. There's a. There's something going on there. Excuse me. So then Tamara, as talking to Gina,

[Gina]

she's like, by the way, we have a talk about your engagement. Do we have, like a date or something like that?

[Tamara]

She's like, no, we actually said for, like, the next six months, we're not even gonna talk about it. I just want to enjoy it. I just want to, like, bask in, like, being in a fur vest with a little crown on my head with a drippy gutter nearby, while he got down on one knee and gave me a plastic ring for my finger. I just want to be ask.

[Jen]

What?

[Emily]

You have to get married before Jen, right? When's Jungkook marriage?

[Podcast Host 3]

You have to get married before Jen. And Tamara's like, well, I don't blame Jen.

[Shannon]

Take your time. But I think Gina and Travis are going to get married before Jen. I think Ryan will place a big bet on that, coming in there because Ryan's an illegal gambler.

[Podcast Host 2]

So then Jen and Carmela arrive, and they say hi to Heather. And Heather, you know, Heather hates her because the first thing Heather does is

[Heather Dubrow]

go, so nice to meet you.

[Podcast Host 2]

I was like, oh, she hates her.

[Heather Dubrow]

I'm sorry.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Welcome, Jesus.

[Heather Dubrow]

Oh, so you're gonna be a non blonde in this group. Okay, I see. Well, let me just show you over here as a trash compactor. I'm just gonna put your face into it.

[Podcast Host 3]

So Tamara's asking Carmela about her life, and she's like, oh, I live in two places.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

I've got a place in cdm. Yeah, those who know no.

[Podcast Host 3]

And then I have a place in Rancho Santa Fe. I would call it rsf, but I don't know that enough of you, like, have the class to understand what that one means. Okay, so I'll just hold that one. Put that one in my pocket.

[Gina]

Yeah. I want to say that Shannon grew up over there 500 years ago.

[Podcast Host 2]

So then Shannon gets out of the

[Tamara]

car, she's like, oh, my God. I, I, I, you know, I've got to put my dress on fast because Kitty.

[Gina]

Stacy, can you help me? Help zip me up, Stacy. Zip me up.

[Podcast Host 2]

So her friend Stacy comes and zips

[Tamara]

her up, and I don't want it wrinkly.

[Gina]

Okay, please, please help me.

[Podcast Host 3]

Falling out of the car, like, well,

[Jen]

I got to put on my dress.

[Tamara]

Salmon.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then there's questions about whether or not Vicky's gonna make it because she's having past, like, work, like, green card, passport, whatever Mexican residency issues. And so Heather is like, I love

[Heather Dubrow]

Vicki, and Vicki and I always get along. But recently Vicki's been saying in the media that we inherited all of our money.

[Podcast Host 2]

So we see a clip of Vicki on a podcast, and she's like, yeah, no, I've always been friendly with Heather. Like, I don't, I don't resent anything

[Heather Dubrow]

that, you know, they built and have inherited and all that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Which to me said, look, to me that, that clip said, yeah, wherever they got their money from, whatever they built, whatever they've inherited, like, I don't resent that. But Heather only hears the inherited. You think it was.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, no, she meant it shady. Because even Christian Gay Snow, her co host, it's like, well, Vicki, you know, sounding pissy about where somebody's money come from doesn't sound great. I don't mean that at all. I'm very happy for them for having

[Jen]

dead relatives who gave them all of their money while some of US are

[Podcast Host 3]

working 12 hours on the beach.

[Podcast Host 2]

I mean, the thing is this. Like, I do believe that they inherited a lot from that, from Terry's brother, but you can't shade them for inheriting a lot of money when one of them is A full on doctor. I'm sorry, that's like someone who put in a lot of time in medical school and residency and everything. And you can't be like, oh, they're just like, like resting on the laurels. It was a doctor. Okay. Like that person is Terry. Terry maybe like, you know, is a TV personality, whatever. But he, he put in the time to like. I don't feel like you're gonna. You can't shade Terry to bro for just like being some lazy receiver of money. I'm sorry.

[Podcast Host 3]

Well, a couple things Vicky says, well, I know a lot of doctors, they don't live in 40 million dollar homes. So I guess to answer that, but you know, a long time thing on this show is like, how do they have so much money? Because they've money. Like they live in mall homes. They live, you know, on the cliff overlooking the ocean and a zillion dollar home. But we've also seen them make a zillion dollars on this show from building these massive homes and selling them. I mean, didn't they make like 20 million off of one of their homes or something? Crazy.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that they've inherited some money. And I also believe that Heather comes from money. Like money flows through this family. I just think it's funny, like I'm just, just, I'm just never gonna shade someone who went to medical school and be like, whoa, look at them just taking the easy way out. You know, it just seems like a weird thing to do.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, so she's, she's like, yeah, whatever. I don't know a doctor with that much money. And Heather is like, well, I want to overlook this, but we need to talk. So Shannon introduces Stacy to the group. And I don't think we need to know who Stacy is. Right. They never show her face. So then Heather's like, tamara, Shannon just arrived.

[Shannon]

Like, whatever.

[Gina]

Wow.

[Shannon]

How'd you find this place to have a party in heaven?

[Podcast Host 3]

She goes, oh, it used to be a funeral home.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

I came here to check it out for my mother, but unfortunately that bitch is still breathing. So I put a deposit down and

[Tamara]

had a party here.

[Heather Dubrow]

Maybe it's where I'll die since I've apparently been replaced as the sole dark haired lady of the cast.

[Podcast Host 2]

So Shannon is saying, well, seeing Tamara

[Tamara]

kind of makes my blood boil a little bit. And Tamara's like, well, I don't know what to do.

[Gina]

I just don't want to have any sort of thoughts.

[Tamara]

Well, I want nothing to do with her. I Don't want to talk to her.

[Shannon]

Stay away.

[Podcast Host 3]

And this is where some of these fashions Shannon is wearing. It looks like a little girl's church dress. She's got like ruffles and all of this crazy going on. And then Nikki, the son is suddenly standing in front of with his creepy smile. And they're like, hi. And he's like, hello. Thank you all for coming.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

I'm Nick.

[Podcast Host 3]

If you don't know me, I'm Heather's really good looking son.

[Heather Dubrow]

I felt that we should have a master of ceremonies. And who better to do it than Nick Dubrow? I know one person who shouldn't do it. Wendy Malik. Ha. Anyway, he's worked in hospitality and by worked in, I mean he's received it quite a bit.

[Podcast Host 4]

He's.

[Heather Dubrow]

He's told waiters how he wants his food and how quickly he wants it before they're fired. So he really is comfortable in this space.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Mickey has really earned this night. Worked in hospitality. This is up his alley. Everyone knows him. He's just so cute.

[Podcast Host 2]

Now, Nikki, on the other hand, I would feel like could get dinged for having, you know, like, things sort of handed to him. So Nick is like, hey, everyone, we have some really fun things planned for you guys and I'm really excited. Let's have some fun. By the way, this is the beginning. The end of his responsibilities is to make a little speech. Heather is like so clearly positioning him to be on Next Gen Los Angeles.

[Heather Dubrow]

Look at him, America. Don't you just love him? Don't you just want to see the rest of his life? Coming soon to Bravo.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah, she's trying. She got him working for Josh from Million Dollar Listing and that show got canceled. So next one is Next Gen. Let's do this. So but this is not the end of his thing, by the way, because soon Heather's like, where's my microphone, Nikki?

[Vicki Gunvalson]

I need a microphone to give a speech. You should be on that.

[Podcast Host 3]

He's like, I am getting it current. I'm currently on that. I was just grabbing that.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

My chat. That's right. Nikki, don't this up. This is your chance. You were in hospitality.

[Heather Dubrow]

Don't it up. I'm a working actress.

[Podcast Host 2]

They get in there and they're looking at all the things like, ooh, ah, there's an ice luge thing.

[Emily]

Oh, look, there's an hd.

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[Podcast Host 2]

And Shannon's like, oh, my God, this, this buffet, just freaking phenomenal.

[Tamara]

Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host 2]

So Emily starts doing the. The ice lose shot. Of course, she's being really Suggestive about it. And Karmala goes, oh, my God, it's a lube. It's a lube.

[Podcast Host 3]

It's like it's a loo. And Heather goes, oh, it's an ice loosh. And Carmela says, oh, God, this party is, like, giving 2000s. Playboy Mansion, like, sexy vibe bounce house. I'm looking for the Playmates. Ron Jeremy popping out of the corner. Yeah, sorry. Got a little confused and called it a Lou. My mind was on other things.

[Podcast Host 2]

So Tamara's like, that's Vicky.

[Gina]

Why is it Vicky hair?

[Podcast Host 2]

And then an SUV pulls up, and it's Vicky, and she's in the. We just hear her voice, like. She got stitches.

[Milo]

Be careful.

[Shannon]

God damn it.

[Podcast Host 3]

I've got 20 stitches in there.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Of course, it's one thing after another with me. I'm just. Just had a cyst removed yesterday underneath

[Podcast Host 3]

my armpit, and now I'm bleeding. It's never a dull moment, Never adult moment with me.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. And Olivia, who is Michael's. Her boyfriend's daughter, is like, there's, like, a literal face mask in your brush.

[Heather Dubrow]

Like, yeah. Because the only thing I can have. I don't get my period anymore.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't really understand what that meant, but I just decided to go with it. So Heather is showing Emily around.

[Heather Dubrow]

She's like, okay, Emily, let me show you things that rich people can afford

[Podcast Host 2]

to do for their parties.

[Heather Dubrow]

Here's a photo station. We're doing Polaroids because, you know, we don't want to waste a good film on you guys. Oh, diamonds over here. Tattoo over here. Oh, and here's the exit. This is where we send the poor people after 10 minutes. Okay, see you later.

[Podcast Host 3]

Who has a I. What is a tattoo booth doing at a party? No, I'm not gonna get tattooed at your party, you weirdo. And they're real tattoos.

[Podcast Host 2]

This happened in the bathroom.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Oh, never forgot. You were to party thrown by HD the night that Nikki's star rose.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, you know, I know people have a lot of stories attached to their tattoos, and I'm. I'm just wondering who is. Who wants to say yes. This is from the time I went to Heather Deborah's Valentine's party at a funeral home. At a funeral home. Said, Heather announces. Heather has a big announcement. Ronnie. Big announcement, everyone.

[Heather Dubrow]

I'm in my font era,

[Podcast Host 3]

so funny. So Tamara actually gets the tattoo, and Vicki comes in and says hi to everybody.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

She's like, I gotta pass. I gotta pass through Mexico. But now it's where they got the consulate.

[Podcast Host 3]

So now I'm just stuck waiting, waiting. And she got tricked.

[Podcast Host 2]

Mexico was like, wait. Oh, yes. Vicki Gunvalson. Wait. We have a chance to make her leave our country.

[Podcast Host 4]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes, you can leave.

[Heather Dubrow]

You can go back to California, and

[Podcast Host 2]

we'll let you back in. We'll let you know when you can come back.

[Emily]

Just.

[Podcast Host 2]

Just stay there.

[Emily]

Just stay.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Sorry.

[Podcast Host 3]

Which one is Vicki Gumbelson?

[Vicki Gunvalson]

It's the lady who keeps coming here

[Podcast Host 3]

asking if we started to build the wall yet. Oh, God, that lady. Yeah. Get her on a plane.

[Podcast Host 2]

Get her on a plane.

[Emily]

So.

[Heather Dubrow]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, you're right. Here's. Here's Nick's other big moment. Here's the microphone moment.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 3]

So give me my microphone. Meanwhile, Carmela sees Vicki, and she's like, hello, I'm Carmelo. Nice to meet you. And Emily is like, well, when you meet Victoria, you have to bow. And Jenko's.

[Jen]

Yeah, there's. There'. Like, a respect to her.

[Podcast Host 3]

You have to kiss her ring. Vicki's like, well, they used to call me Queen Victoria.

[Milo]

My.

[Podcast Host 3]

My crown is a little crooked. Carmela's like, yeah, I'm not trying to bow to anybody. I'm definitely not kissing anyone's ring.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

I know.

[Podcast Host 3]

I knew Ron Jeremy.

[Podcast Host 2]

So then Carmela's telling Shannon that she lives in CDM and also Rancho Santa Fe. And she's like, are you from the ranch?

[Tamara]

She's like, what?

[Shannon]

What?

[Stacy]

What?

[Tamara]

Well, I live in Corona del Mar. I mean, I'm the d. I'm the.

[Podcast Host 2]

By the way, I'm sorry. I'm giving Shannon way too much of a sober interpretation. It was more like this.

[Tamara]

I. Well, I live in Corona del Mar, and I'm the. I'm the Duchess of Corona del Mar.

[Gina]

I'm just kidding.

[Tamara]

I joke. I joke. I have to joke to get through the loneliness. It's just me and some dogs, but they just call me the bag lady

[Podcast Host 2]

of Corona del Mar. I'll be honest.

[Tamara]

Or sometimes the whipped cream on a cone dropper.

[Podcast Host 2]

Lady of Corona del Mar.

[Jen]

Or the ma is my. Ah.

[Podcast Host 3]

Because I broke the mahjong is my valentine sign.

[Stacy]

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[Podcast Host 3]

So Heather gets up and she's like, hello.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Ding, ding, ding. Hello, everybody. Welcome to my party. Hearts and farts Celebrating. What else? Friendship. I just wanted to celebrate new friends. I was about to say old friends. See Alfredo. Alfredo. Thank you. Alfredo's new and dead.

[Podcast Host 2]

Got one.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Thank God we're in a funeral home. I have somewhere to put Alfredo's body for fucking that one up. Okay, well, Tamara goes, just call them historical fans.

[Heather Dubrow]

Historical friends, one might say historical.

[Podcast Host 2]

So then. Then Emily rolls her eyes, and then

[Podcast Host 4]

Jen's like, why is she throwing data?

[Podcast Host 2]

They're like, all. All of a sudden they're upset about historical.

[Podcast Host 4]

Like, how could she say historical?

[Heather Dubrow]

And.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then Emily's like, she's trying to minimize it.

[Emily]

She's trying to make it natural.

[Podcast Host 2]

I would guarantee you one thing Heather Dubrell will never be doing in life is making anything sound natural or be natural or just even look natural. I don't associate cons with natural. With Heather debrow.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Please eat, drink, and be merry. And remember, both Tamra and life are short, but Tamara is much harder to live through. Cheers, everybody. Let's do cello shots.

[Podcast Host 2]

So the waitress tries to give Vicki a jello shot, and she's like, oh, yeah, I used to make these by

[Podcast Host 4]

the river all the time.

[Heather Dubrow]

That's how the boohoo started.

[Podcast Host 2]

And we see flashbacks to havasu and in the glory days of the of the aughts. And then they're like, the pores are now, like, playing with all the baubles that Heather's put out. So basically, Gina's sniffing perfumes and Jen

[Podcast Host 4]

is like, oh, by the way, Shannon called me earlier today. And Shannon's feeling that Heather is, like, not being honest about how she feels about Tamara.

[Podcast Host 2]

And we see a flashback of this FaceTime. And Shannon's like, well, you know, the

[Tamara]

dinner after reunion 100 of the meal was negative comments about Tamara. And she's like, it's frustrating that, that when we're alone with Heather, she'll say certain things.

[Podcast Host 4]

And then when we're all together as

[Tamara]

a group, she's like, buddy, buddy, saying things like historical, historical.

[Podcast Host 3]

And Jen, who is starting all this, like, Jen is clearly going from person to person.

[Jen]

Like, guys, Heather is so nice to Tamara's face, but she keeps talking behind her back.

[Podcast Host 3]

So.

[Tamara]

Huh?

[Podcast Host 2]

I said, what are you doing? You're talking behind Heather's background.

[Podcast Host 3]

Exactly, exactly. And she's also not taking. She's a huge hypocrite. But I love, you know, seeing her grow into her housewives role. So Jen is telling us, you know,

[Jen]

someone who really does care about Heather. I think being a good friend is pushing people out of their comfort zones and under buses. And to hear Shannon say that she feels the same way as me after I brought it up, it's like, gosh, is anyone going to say anything? I'm gonna say something and blame somebody else for it.

[Tamara]

If Shannon feels that way about Heather, then she should talk to Heather about it. And by she should talk to Heather about it, it. I mean, I'll talk to Heather about it.

[Podcast Host 3]

So Heather's getting a tattoo, and she's

[Vicki Gunvalson]

like, I'm getting a tattoo xx. I always sign my name xx Heather.

[Podcast Host 2]

So Gina's like, Gina's talking to Jan. Just Heather getting xx. It's just also funny because Tamara just got XO xo.

[Tamara]

So Gina's like, I didn't like the things I seen Tamara discussing in the press. So I said that to Tamara and Jen's like.

[Podcast Host 4]

Like, I don't know how powerful it would be if Heather would just be honest with Tamara. So. So, like, maybe we could, like, if she did that, we could, like, mend this broken friendship, you know?

[Podcast Host 3]

So Tamara sees Vicki and she's like,

[Shannon]

hey, Vi, I love you so much. I just love you, Vi.

[Podcast Host 3]

And holds her and.

[Jen]

Because, like.

[Shannon]

Oh.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, well, okay.

[Milo]

All right.

[Jen]

Okay.

[Tamara]

Yeah.

[Shannon]

I just love you so much. It doesn't have anything to do with everybody here hating me. I love you, B. Accept you back in my heart. Baker. It.

[Tamara]

I'm just gonna walk by slowly, inches away from the two of them, but not look. So Tamara realizes that a very beautiful and lonely cloud has wafted by.

[Jen]

Okay, am I intentionally avoiding Tamara?

[Podcast Host 4]

Yes.

[Jen]

Yes, I am. I don't have anything to say to her, so I'm gonna keep on walking. Will I stop to say hello?

[Podcast Host 2]

No.

[Tamara]

And by avoiding, I mean in this giant room, I'm just gonna walk directly up to her and then keep on going.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's people who are avoiding.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

So Heather's like, look, look, girls, I got a tattoo.

[Jen]

Jen's like, oh, my God. Is that a real tattoo? Is that real?

[Vicki Gunvalson]

It is. I'm a badass.

[Podcast Host 2]

It looks like an ant crawling on her. So Gina is like, literally.

[Gina]

Yeah.

[Tamara]

This tattoo is, like, the smallest tattoo I've ever seen. Like, it reminds me of, like, when Lisa Kudrow got the tattoo of the world on a. On Friends. And, like, it was just, like, a dot. Like, it was, like, so funny. I was like, oh, my God, like, hilarious.

[Milo]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 3]

So Gina is talking to Heather, and

[Jen]

she's like, well, I'm talking to Jen over there, and Shannon's, like, a little upset with you because she feels like you are completely honest about your relationship with Tamara.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

She, like, oh, stop this again. Come on.

[Emily]

When did she say that?

[Jen]

Oh, I talked to Shannon today, and she said it today. So, yeah, it was rough.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Well, do you feel like I address things with Tamra?

[Podcast Host 3]

Gina's like, I do feel that way, Heather.

[Jen]

I do feel that way. By the way, you still have my routing number, right?

[Heather Dubrow]

I was very clear about everything, and I did that last year too.

[Tamara]

Yeah. Heather told us she was embarrassing everyone.

[Heather Dubrow]

And Heather's like, yes, she was embarrassing.

[Tamara]

Yes. And she told her to her face, everyone.

[Gina]

That's what Heather did.

[Emily]

Gina.

[Podcast Host 2]

Gina, like, advocating for this and everything, but I love that Gina starts this by being like, hey, Jen said that Shannon said, this isn't that crazy. Don't worry. I'm on your side about this. Don't you worry. You've been a great friend.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. So Tamara tells Vicki that she went painting with Heather and Gina, and Vic is like, you don't know how to paint.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

What were you doing painting?

[Shannon]

Well, I'm ecstatic. They were giving me a hard time because I spent with you, Vicky. They didn't like that very much.

[Podcast Host 3]

And we see Heather saying, you and

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Vicki have called each other terrible names and you're the worst human being on the planet and all that stuff.

[Shannon]

I'm like, ah, we've been friends for 20 years. Whatever, she gets it. Pass. Cuz she's just, Vicky, what are you gonna do?

[Podcast Host 3]

And Vicky saying, well.

[Podcast Host 2]

Which is, by the way, that's the exact same logic of Heather saying, well,

[Heather Dubrow]

Tamara, I put her in a box.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's like the same thing. Like while we've been friends for so long, I give Vicki a pass.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. And Vicki's like, well, I'm disappointed, but I don't go backwards. I'm not going backwards. So then Gina is like, well, sometimes

[Jen]

it's difficult because like you do communicate things, but it's like always not received, you know, and there's nothing you can do about that at all.

[Shannon]

Right?

[Heather Dubrow]

And we talked about that. We, me and Tamara, we talked about that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Everyone.

[Heather Dubrow]

Me, the person who just paid for her new tattoo, so she really shouldn't be mad at me. We talked about that.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

That I'm in my very happy unbothered era, fun era.

[Heather Dubrow]

Tamara and I have been friends for a long time and I do not agree with everything that she does, but I'm unbothered and that does not mean I'm turning my back on her. Maybe I'm a good influence on her. Does anyone ever think that Mother

[Shannon]

and

[Jen]

Jen's like, well, I mean, if everyone's fine talking behind each other's back, that's fine, but you know, just be honest and you know, say that you put her in a box, you know.

[Podcast Host 3]

And so Tamara's talking to Vicki and

[Shannon]

she's like, but Vicky, I just don't want all of them to come between us because it's trying to. Vicky, be like, tamara, why are you friends with Vicky? She smells so gross. Tim, right? Why are you friends with, with Vicky? Her knees broken. Tamara, why are you friends with Vicki? They wouldn't even let it be an owner bonding.

[Podcast Host 2]

So Vicki sees Heather, she goes, heather, get over here. Why are you talking mean about me?

[Heather Dubrow]

And he goes, what was mean? I never said anything mean. By the way, you're the one that says mean things about me.

[Podcast Host 3]

She's like, God, I don't, no I don't.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

She goes, terry and I inherited all of our money.

[Stamps.com Sponsor]

Really.

[Heather Dubrow]

Vicky, she's like, I, I, I don't care where you got your, your money.

[Podcast Host 2]

And Heather's like, eyes just like narrow

[Heather Dubrow]

and she, she Goes, vicky, our mothers are alive. Where did we inherit money from? No Alfredo, no wrong time.

[Podcast Host 3]

And Vicky, like, it's a game show. She's like, Terry's brother, his mother is alive.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

If he had money, it would be with her.

[Jen]

How does that.

[Podcast Host 3]

That's not true.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's not true at all.

[Podcast Host 3]

That's the line of succession, ma'.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Am.

[Podcast Host 3]

Okay. I've seen succession and Game of Thrones.

[Heather Dubrow]

She's like, terry's brother was a huge mama's boy. He gave everything to the mother, not to Terry.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's kind of like what she's saying. But no, I don't. I would think that's not necessarily true at all. I think the money can go in many different directions.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. So Vic is like.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

And she's like, my husband worked at Kentucky Fried Chicken.

[Podcast Host 3]

And then the sound effect goes ding. Like the sound effects people were like, right, right, right.

[Heather Dubrow]

Which is the most popular restaurant for all the Alfredo's, I hear.

[Podcast Host 2]

And Vicki's like, well, I don't doubt that.

[Heather Dubrow]

I mean, I do kind of. I actually 100 doubt that. Nether's like, for everything we have. See all this? This was paid for by boobs.

[Tamara]

Tamara's like, boobs, Boobs, tits? Is that what you meant?

[Heather Dubrow]

Yeah, boobs.

[Podcast Host 3]

And this is where Vicky's like, well, doctors don't live in 40 million dollar homes or even 20 million.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don doctors.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Okay. Like, maybe it's her award winning acting

[Podcast Host 3]

that pays for all of this.

[Podcast Host 2]

That was great Shade and the Ahmaud winning acting. I got this money.

[Heather Dubrow]

We didn't inherit our money.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's so funny because, like, the way that Heather is amplifying this, like, offhanded comment, whether it was shady or not. You're probably right. It probably was shady on a podcast. You know, I guarantee the majority of the audience fans never heard this. Or if they did hear it, they. They just, they missed it. Like, they forgot about it. And Heather amplifying it here for this fight now is making all of us wonder. Well, maybe they did get their money from inheriting it. She's so what? I. I am so amused by how she never realizes how she always is at.

[Podcast Host 3]

She's bringing her own stink, you know? Yeah, she weren't talking about this. Nobody's listening to Vicki's podcast. You get. No fucking offense.

[Podcast Host 2]

She always achieves the opposite ends of what she's going for all the time.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. So Heather's like, we didn't inherit our money.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Now kiss me, you.

[Podcast Host 3]

And she walks away. And Tamara goes, wow, she really lit you up. I lit her up.

[Podcast Host 2]

So now we're in the bouncy castle. There's a bouncy castle there. And they're all bouncing, and Shannon can't get up, and she's just, like, rolling around, and her dress is, like, riding up around her span. Thanks. And then Gina's like, camera.

[Tamara]

Have you told the Shannon? And Tamara's like, nah, I don't feel

[Gina]

like this is the place.

[Tamara]

I like talking to her on steady ground.

[Gina]

Do we have to talk about. I have some stuff to talk about.

[Shannon]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And Jen's like, well, I'm so glad

[Podcast Host 4]

to hear that there's stuff to talk about, because I'm going to talk to you very straight, because I want you to shoot me very straight. Okay. Because sometimes.

[Podcast Host 3]

Careful what you wish for.

[Heather Dubrow]

I know.

[Podcast Host 2]

This is Orange County.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah. So she says basically, like, you know what? Like, we can have the kindest conversation, but then you're fun fake, you know, and you talk behind my back, and I'm tired of it. And I sat down with Heather, and when she talked about you, she said she puts. Puts you in a box, and so she can compartmentalize her friends.

[Jen]

And Tamara's like, oh, really?

[Shannon]

She said that about me?

[Gina]

Ow.

[Shannon]

Hold on a minute. Let me see. What? That hurt for a minute. Oh, God, that hurts.

[Podcast Host 2]

You can see that.

[Shannon]

Never gonna forget this moment, the pain.

[Emily]

You can see that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Tamara doesn't quite understand what this means, but she understands the sentiment that she should be upset.

[Gina]

So she's like, all right, I'm in the box. I should be insulted.

[Tamara]

I don't know why, but while I

[Gina]

think about it, I'll just shake my head, like, quietly and back away slowly.

[Podcast Host 3]

Yeah.

[Jen]

And she's like, well, thank you.

[Shannon]

Thank you so much, Shin, for bringing this to me to my face. I appreciate it. You dumb.

[Jen]

She's like, yeah. Oh, my God. Like, I felt so good telling Tamara that we are back. Me and Tamara are back.

[Gina]

Wow.

[Jen]

That I see a change in Tamara. She's so much lighter. Wow, what a change.

[Podcast Host 3]

So she hugs her, but Heather walks up, and Heather's like, should I not

[Vicki Gunvalson]

have stepped into this?

[Podcast Host 3]

And Tamara's like, yeah, probably not the best time.

[Shannon]

I'm just gonna go. I need to process things that we just spoke about right now before Heather walk up.

[Heather Dubrow]

And here I was, ready to talk about my new fun era, as evidenced by me yelling at Vicky, we did not inherit our money.

[Tamara]

So Tamara's like, talk about my back

[Gina]

about boxes and stuff. And saying that she puts me in the box makes me think wow.

[Tamara]

Are you really my real friend?

[Gina]

Putting me in boxes. I could suffocate and die in a box kind of breaks my heart, assuming my heart is in a box.

[Podcast Host 2]

So Jen is like.

[Podcast Host 4]

Like, well, I just told her that, you know, you're in rooms and you're not around, and there's. That's being said.

[Podcast Host 3]

Oh, mis. Accountability, Misaccountability. Jen, of course, is gonna lie the second Heather walks up.

[Jen]

Like, I was just saying, you know, like, everybody. You know, like, everybody puts her. Has to put her in a box.

[Tamara]

Yeah, she. She basically just told her that you put it on a box, and that's how you deal with it.

[Milo]

What?

[Jen]

No, no, I said that she puts everybody in a box. I said that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's in a box. That's what I said.

[Heather Dubrow]

People in boxes is. That's what Alfredo was there for.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

We should stop saying put people in a box in a funeral home. Am I right?

[Podcast Host 3]

So Jen's like, yeah, we all said that.

[Jen]

We all said it.

[Podcast Host 3]

So Gina's like, you know what, Jenna?

[Vicki Gunvalson]

Jen is stepping in right now.

[Shannon]

I'm like, like, then instead of getting

[Vicki Gunvalson]

out of the shed and cleaning the

[Jen]

show, she, like, put her other foot in the shot. Not both the feet are in the shot.

[Heather Dubrow]

I felt the other night, we had a very real conversation where she probably didn't like what I had to say.

[Podcast Host 2]

And Jen's like, yeah, I wasn't there,

[Podcast Host 4]

but I'm, like, so grateful that we're starting to do that. That's great. They're having those sort of conversations.

[Heather Dubrow]

And it was all said then, but that was forward motion, and now it feels like backwards. You understand what you have done? Because I'm unbothered now. Now, I'm not giving you a very angry monologue and using words like adjudicate, but just know my eyes are saying it.

[Vicki Gunvalson]

You know, I thought Jen and I were simpatico, but now hearing that she's talking behind my back and making us go backwards. It's basically a new girl saying, Lou, it's a disappointment. I'm gonna have to think about this one.

[Podcast Host 4]

One.

[Jen]

So Jen's like, well, sometimes we have to go backwards, and we have to be really honest to go forward. Right. Because if we.

[Podcast Host 2]

We're not driving.

[Jen]

Okay,

[Podcast Host 3]

Jen, Jen, Jen. So Jen pretending she's missing accountability, but then also walking around refusing to take accountability when she's starting all the.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, not a good look. Not a good look. And Heather is. It basically ends with Heather saying, well,

[Heather Dubrow]

Tamara wouldn't say goodbye to me. And she wouldn't even look me in the eye. She just left. And it's gonna come back in a different direction, direction, direction.

[Podcast Host 3]

So it's good. A pretty, pretty good first episode of the season. Looking forward to more. Thanks so much for being with us, you guys. We'll talk to you then next time.

[Podcast Host 1]

Bye.

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[Shannon]

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