#2635 RHOBH S1402 Part One: PKs and Valleys

Summary

Podcast Title: Watch What Crappens
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Episode: #2635 RHOBH S1402 Part One: PKs and Valleys
Release Date: November 27, 2024

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Introduction & Technical Glitches [03:37 - 05:04]

The episode kicks off with Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam welcoming listeners to "Watch What Crappens," their daily podcast dedicated to all things Bravo. Ben humorously addresses a technical issue where his audio is out of sync with his video, promising to troubleshoot it over the Thanksgiving weekend. Ronnie shares a heartfelt yet comical anecdote about her emotional farewell to workmen finishing renovations at her house, only to realize she was inadvertently speaking to her houseplants. This segment sets a light-hearted and relatable tone for the episode.

Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Recap [05:04 - 26:15]

Emotional Turmoil and Character Dynamics

Ronnie expresses her frustration and emotional exhaustion with the current season of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH), highlighting her inability to "kick the housewives" and the overwhelming drama surrounding friendships and personal struggles. The hosts delve into the conflict between Kyle and Dorit, two central figures in the season:

• Kyle's Struggles: Kyle portrays herself as going through the "worst two years of her life," dealing with a messy marriage and personal setbacks. Ronnie critiques Kyle's self-pity, scoffing at her claims of hardship by sarcastically listing her achievements, such as becoming a multi-millionaire and moving into multiple mansions.

  Ben Mandelker [11:05]: "Kyle's like, these hills have eyes, and they're all staring at me, first of all."

  Ronnie Karam [11:27]: "Hills are not watching you. We're barely watching you, you fudgeing idiot."

• Dorit's Resilience: In contrast, Dorit is commended for standing up for herself and handling adversities, including dealing with PK (Pickleface) and alleged home invasions. Ronnie appreciates Dorit's ability to remain strong amidst chaos, labeling her interactions as both hilarious and commendable.

  Ronnie Karam [06:47]: "I love seeing Dorit and Kyle fight. I love seeing Dorit stand up for herself."

New Dorit Sound Effects and Taglines

Ben introduces the concept of new sound effects associated with Dorit Kemsley, adding a humorous layer to their discussions. They explore the new taglines for the season, which they find somewhat generic but reflective of the character developments.

Ben Mandelker [08:31]: "Would you like to hear the new Dorit Kemsley?"

Ronnie Karam [10:11]: "But like this, you know what I mean?"

Focused Drama Between Kyle and Dorit

The core of the recap centers on the escalating tension between Kyle and Dorit. Ronnie narrates a fictionalized version of interactions where Kyle accuses Dorit of exaggerating their friendship and missing out on genuine connections.

Ronnie Karam [25:28]: "That rumor is probably total trash, but, God, I love it."

Ben and Ronnie dissect Kyle's attempts to vilify Dorit by highlighting inconsistencies in her narrative and questioning her sincerity.

Ben Mandelker [35:15]: "Watch what Crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King."

(Note: This timestamp seems out of context; perhaps a misalignment in the transcript. The relevant discussion continues around [35:15])

Dorit's Confrontation and Kyle's Downfall

The hosts describe a pivotal confrontation where Dorit challenges Kyle's actions and motives, emphasizing Kyle's attempts to manipulate the narrative to her advantage.

Ronnie Karam [35:57]: "Yes, you're mad that I said something. And watch what happens live. That wasn't even a big deal."

Ben highlights Dorit's strategic responses to Kyle's accusations, portraying Dorit as the more grounded and rational party in the conflict.

Ben Mandelker [36:43]: "So Dorit is like, this is exactly what I expected. You think I'm some fucking idiot?"

Introduction of New Characters and Plot Twists [26:15 - 43:21]

Boza St. John - The Badass Workshop Leader

The episode introduces Boza St. John, a new character who runs "Badass Workshops." Ben and Ronnie humorously critique Boza's over-the-top entrepreneurial spirit and her self-professed status as a badass.

Ronnie Karam [43:21]: "She's doing her own infomercial. It's... She is."

Boza's character is depicted as both ambitious and somewhat comical, with her synchronized marching and high-energy presentations adding a unique flavor to the show.

Sutton and Jennifer Tilly's Observations

Sutton and Jennifer Tilly are portrayed as neutral observers who watch Kyle and Dorit's drama unfold, with Sutton taking on a more authoritative role to mediate the conflict.

Ben Mandelker [53:24]: "Sutton's like, I'm sorry, because I have to say one part."

Deep Dive into Character Motivations and Relationships [43:21 - 64:56]

Kyle's Alleged Manipulations

The hosts delve deeper into Kyle's character, questioning her motives and the authenticity of her struggles. They discuss rumors about Kyle's relationships and her alleged manipulation of friendships for personal gain.

Ronnie Karam [54:52]: "It's been a really tough year for me. You know, it's been a really tough year for me."

Ben and Ronnie analyze the complexity of Kyle's relationships, highlighting her conflicts with other housewives and the possible ulterior motives behind her actions.

Ben Mandelker [61:15]: "She is not going to. This is not going to. This will not last."

Financial Disputes and Business Ownership

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the financial entanglements between Kyle and her ex-husband Mauricio, particularly concerning their business ventures and ownership stakes. The hosts speculate on potential legal battles and the impact on Kyle's personal relationships.

Ronnie Karam [61:08]: "If you go get your money, Kyle."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ben Mandelker [11:05]: "Kyle's like, these hills have eyes, and they're all staring at me, first of all."

• Ronnie Karam [11:27]: "Hills are not watching you. We're barely watching you, you fudgeing idiot."

• Ronnie Karam [35:28]: "That rumor is probably total trash, but, God, I love it."

• Ben Mandelker [36:43]: "So Dorit is like, this is exactly what I expected. You think I'm some fucking idiot?"

• Ronnie Karam [43:21]: "She's doing her own infomercial. It's... She is."

Conclusion & Upcoming Segments [64:56 - End]

As the episode approaches its end, Ben and Ronnie tease the continuation of their recap in Part Two, promising further exploration of the unfolding drama on RHOBH. They briefly touch upon their upcoming segments and remind listeners of their other content offerings, maintaining engagement and anticipation for future episodes.

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Final Thoughts:

In Part One of their two-part recap of RHOBH Season 14 Episode 2: PKs and Valleys, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam provide a spirited and humorous analysis of the central conflicts, particularly focusing on the strained relationship between Kyle and Dorit. Their blend of sarcasm, wit, and keen observations offers listeners both entertainment and insight into the complexities of the show's latest developments. Notably, the introduction of new characters like Boza St. John adds fresh dynamics to the narrative, setting the stage for continued drama and intrigue in the upcoming parts.

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Please note that timestamps are based on provided transcript segments and may not perfectly align with actual audio timings.

Transcript

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[Ben Mandelker]

Hi. Hi, everyone. And hello, everyone on Crap is on demand. As Ronnie mentioned earlier this week, my audio is out of sync with my video. Don't know why it's happening. Gonna get to the bottom of it. I'm gonna spend this Thanksgiving weekend trying to figure out why there's a lag, so. But I apologize. I'll just try to actually hide my mouth behind my microphone so that way you actually don' end if everything feels in sync. But sorry to everyone who's watching. You know, it wouldn't be, oh, thanks. But apparently this happened when I was in LA also, so I don't really know what's going on. But you know what? It's just. That's what life is.

[Ronnie Karam]

Life is a lag, guys. Life is a lag. Well, I'm so super sad. Not because the holidays and not because Vanderpump rules, which we should talk about at some point. Should we talk about that today? Next week? I don't know. But I am about to leave for Thanksgiving, and these workmen are almost done at my house when I tell you I cried. I was like, guys, we need to have a talk. And they're like, okay. So they gathered around, and I was like, guys, I'm not gonna be here the next few days, but you will be. And I'm not gonna get to say goodbye to you. I really appreciate everything you've done. I love seeing you every day and becoming your friend. And I started crying. And then the one guy who doesn't even know English said, we'll miss you. I can't. They're so cute.

[Ben Mandelker]

You started to cry. That's so sweet. And then it turns out like Ronnie's just talking to his house plants, like, oh, geez, Ronnie, you're getting.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm gonna cry right now. That's crazy that I'm gonna miss the workmen like that. But I'm going to.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's. Well, you can always.

[Ronnie Karam]

That means I need a cat or something.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I can't. You can also just.

[Ronnie Karam]

I wouldn't have to start a patreon just to hire workman every day to keep me company. That's so sad.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why don't you just, like, build. Why don't you build something? Build another thing. And you can hire them and you can see them all. You can also socialize with them.

[Ronnie Karam]

Also, I'm crying because housewives is killing me lately. Like, I cannot fucking kick the housewives. I don't know why I'm crying, but we. The housewives are killing me. Like, I can't take any more housewives right now. Stop being depressing. I watch you as a cartoon. You can't do this to me. And then I found out my one of my best friends is moving. Right? Like, I can't. Should we stop this? Why am I crying? This is weird. Wait, one of your best friends is what, moving? Here, look at this picture of the OC House.

[Ben Mandelker]

We can start over if you want. Poor thing.

[Ronnie Karam]

We should stop each other.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

Literally. What is wrong with.

[Ben Mandelker]

So sweet. You feel things. So. You feel things so deeply.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay. No, it's just funny because I'm such a cynical bitch. But I swear to you, if I even start crying at a commercial, it's over for me. Like, I'll be here for three hours. It'll be like a week long thing. Okay. Anyway, that's it. Also, thanks.

[Ben Mandelker]

You also are on three hours of sleep. You're also on three hours of sleep. I want to point out, also, these.

[Ronnie Karam]

Housewives are killing me. Like that merry conversation which people will hear tonight on a Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. That's too much.

[Ben Mandelker]

And how about Honestly and Erin and her father, you know, Aaron and her father. That was like. I thought that was very, very sad.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, the whole thing on New York.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like, everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

The whole thing.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then PK and Dorit. I'm just kidding. That should at least be hilarious. You know what I mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Luckily, Beverly Hills. Who would have thought? Beverly Hills, the funniest show of the week. Just a great comedy. Beverly Hills. I mean, I was chuckling watching Beverly Hills last night. It brought me a lot of joy. I love seeing Dorit and Kyle fight. I love seeing Dorit stand up for herself. I love Dorit really giving it to Kyle, you know? They really get into. They really get into it in a way that. That I really appreciate. So how are you feeling? Do you want to start? You want to start from the top or.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, no, no. I'm just such a weird telling you I'm so sorry. No, I'm a basket case. And it's the holidays and everything else, but also, you know, also, I'm just like. So. I'm grateful, you know, And I'm so. I'm crying because I'm happy, but. Yeah, I really am. I'm really happy. Okay, let's just keep going. Christina, just cut some of that out. Cut out whatever you want.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

So here we are, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and this is called a sobering separation. Like, how much sobriety do we need, too? Like, do we really all need to be lectured before the holidays? Like, come on, I'm doing my best, you know? Fuck, man.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And, you know, before the episode even began, you know, last week. Previously on Watch for Crap Ins. Recapping Beverly Hills, I played some of the classic Dorit sound effects because it's always important to remind ourselves of the strange noises that Dorit makes. And I didn't even pick up on the fact it wasn't until I watched the previously is that we have a new entry in the canon. Would you like to hear the new Dorit Kemsley?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes. How did I. How did it not jump out of me here?

[Ben Mandelker]

Here we go. Actually, before you know what, I'm going to build up to it because it turns out there were several more sound effects that we overlooked. We had the classic where it's like young ladies and the happy birthday. But do you remember this? When she saw a magician gone shut up. Or how about this is Dorit talking about Beverly Beach, Los Angeles.

[Ronnie Karam]

Imagine walking up and seeing Beverly beach so proud.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, wait, was there something back there? And then let's. Let's also not forget this one where she just annoyed Lisa Vanderpump with her strange noises.

[Ronnie Karam]

What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you?

[Ben Mandelker]

Ladies and gentlemen, for 2024, the new D noise. You're basically corporate America, all black in one fabulous thing.

[Ronnie Karam]

But like this, you know what I mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

Do it again one more time. Do it again one more time. Basically corporate America in one realistic like this.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know what I mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's the slow wind up. Like, you know, we all know the classic, like, Dorit scream in one fabulous thing.

[Ronnie Karam]

But like this, you know what I mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

So funny to read. She brings so much joy so that's the big news, that there's a new dorit sound. And then we also have our new taglines for the season. And I'm gonna say, by the way, as a whole, as a class. Class of 2024, I didn't love these. I thought these were a little generic.

[Ronnie Karam]

What'd you think they were? Let's see what they are. Kyle, who wants to do. Kyle, you want to do? Who wants to start?

[Ben Mandelker]

You start, I'll do. Kyle, you've had a tough morning. You don't deserve to. You don't deserve to have to take on this.

[Ronnie Karam]

I've just had a feeling. Morning. That's all. I'm okay. You know, I just usually hide that I haven't.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kyle's like, these hills have eyes, and they're all staring at me, first of all. So I. That's a reference to a classic horror movie, the Hills have Eyes, which I guess is a reference to the fact that Kyle has been in horror movies. But, like, that is so Kyle. To think that Hills are watching her. Hills are not watching you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hills are not watching you. We're barely watching you, you fudgeing idiot. Like, what does she think that people care this much about her life? She is absolutely. What is it? The Amazon Live audience going crazy? It's all those ladies looking for leggings that are just dying to know. Literally, no one cares. I've not met one person who's like, I wonder what's going on with Kyle and Morgan. Literally everybody. I feel like even lesbians are like, just be quiet. How about that? Just shut up. Nobody cares.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, these hills have eyes, and they're all rolling them. That would have been more accurate.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Sutton's like, I honor my fine Southern manners by putting you in your place.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Garcelles is. Which is, by the way, that's.

[Ronnie Karam]

Talk about Sutton's. I mean, not Southern matters. Putting people in their place. First of all, not really. That's.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't think there's any word play there. I think there's no word play. I don't think it's. I got distracted. My mom sent me a text. I gotta go on do not disturb, because my mom is like, it's making a reservation in 10 days. So of course it's like 10 texts in a row.

[Ronnie Karam]

Um, so what do you want for dinner in 10 days, honey? Let's discuss it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, we need to answer. We need to answer. I'm like, you know, I'm podcasting mother. You know it so suddenly. Yeah. I honor my fine Southern manners by putting you in your place. It's fine. There's no word play there, though, so I don't really. I just don't think it's very wonderful. It's like, it's fine. And then Garcelle's is. I've been in the game too long to play by someone else's rules. Oh, yeah, that's fine. That one does have wordplay, but it's more generic.

[Ronnie Karam]

What are the rules?

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't get it. And then Erica's like, in Beverly Hills, money buys a lot, but my independence, priceless. Fucking. Now you're using an AMEX logo for all the credit you don't have. What is your thing? And Beverly Hills money buys a lot, and I don't have any. Thank God for Tom's old Rush Limbaugh lookalike friend, because I'd be fucked. How about you? Erica could have been like, I'm going to wear pants with faces on them. What do you think about that? And I would have been like, that's better than what we got.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's also protecting Kyle yet again. She's protecting Kyle yet again. Because you know that if it weren't for Erica, Kyle would have another in this town. But Erica took the in Beverly Hills thing, so Kyle had to say the Hills eyes instead.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, you know, they cut hers to be in this town. The hills have eyes. But all eyes are looking at me.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kyle, you can't. In this town again, Kyle. Okay, you can't do this. And I just love that she's usually using, like, commercial slogans. When she was charged with literal credit, she tried to throw those guys in prison for credit fraud. And then, I mean, she's a mess. What is she doing? So then bo's, which, by the way, I'm sorry, I was calling her Boz last week, but you know whose fault that is? It's fucking Kathy Hilton's fault, you know? Of course. And why would I ever listen to Kathy Hilton? I know she's not named boss like Kathy Hilton was trying to call her, but I thought it must rhyme with boss if that's what she's trying to call her. No, there's no sense and there's no sensibility with Kathy. Hey, don't listen to her. Very upset.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, so translated into strange. I love it.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love. That's why I'm always screaming and yelling, because I'm always about to cry. Okay, so Bose is like, introducing the greatest product I ever marketed Myself, I was like, oh, my God. So this woman, let me just tell you right now, this woman, I love her. This is a walking AI LinkedIn page. That's all this lady's going to do. And I love it. She is LinkedIn with fabulous dresses. She's like an update at the app that just won't stop. Stop nagging you to resign up for fucking LinkedIn. And I love it. It's like you're connected to Bose. She wants a recommendation. I'm like, you know what? Bose is great at croissants there. Do it. That's right. I run that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm sure all her LinkedIn friends constantly get emails. Like, bo's just updated her profile. Bose has a new update. Bo's just wrote on her LinkedIn blog. Bo says hello. Bose just made a new connection. It's like Robbie constant. So then. Then we have Dorit, who finishes it with, I may look like a doll, but don't wind me up.

[Ronnie Karam]

This one's the cutest, I think.

[Ben Mandelker]

Good. That's the best of the best of the bunch. You know what? This is Dorit's season and she got the best line of the. Of the year, I would say.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, but Dorit's and Dorit's like, I'm a new independent. PE is already wearing thin. I have to today, it's been two episodes. I'm like, okay, okay, you need to calm down now, but let's do it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I would have liked the original version of her line, which I heard was just her going.

[Ronnie Karam]

Magic. We just see a car slowly crashing in that Beverly Hills traffic circle. So let's see here where we are. So we are at the party set in surrealism party, and Kyle is dressed like a deer. A deer in the headlights. Just doesn't understand why everyone's constantly staring at her. And then Dorit is arguing with her. And Kyle's like, I'm gonna need you to listen now. Okay, I'm gonna need you to listen. I am double licking the corners of my mouth very rapidly. So.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let'S be honest, Coyle, and let's actually really talk about the real stuff. So go on, tell me, Kyle. And Kyle.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I mean, if you're gonna be aggressive and you're not gonna be open, I'm having this conversation because I hope to get to the other side of this. But you're really not. Like, who are you even? Like, you're not even acting like yourself. Like, who are you? It's like a pod person. It's like, who. Who is this?

[Ben Mandelker]

Right now because I'm not going to put up with your sheet anymore, Kyle. I'm not.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, we both have different feelings and we have different thoughts about what happened. No, no, no, no. This is like a. We have our truths. I have my truth and you have your truth. No, there is a truth. What is the truth? You're a lie. You're a lie, ma'am.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yours. That's the thing is that Kyle's offense is a blatant lie to be like. Well, we only went on like one trip together and it was. Our friendship was exaggerated. That is incorrect. So dorit's like, Kyle, our history counts and so do all of our accents. And that's why when you went publicly and said that I exaggerated our friendship. Please roll the Amazon live footage once again, please.

[Ronnie Karam]

Amazon live is getting some serious play on this show. My God, I just want. I really wanted to go buy a pair of leggings. Like, seriously, I was like, does anybody have gold plated earrings right now that are just casual and sensible, but also fancy if I need to switch up after the office?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I mean, it's really. This is just great marketing and sadrita's like we have so many memories and so many intimate moments. I just. It felt like it took eight years of a deep sisterly friendship and she took it and flushed it down the toilet.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, well, can I tell you. Can I tell you why I said that? Because when we were at bravocon and we were up there as, like, besties, and then we see the clip again of Kyle of Andy saying, who's your favorite Richard sister? And then Kyle her shot all over Dorit. And Dorit joking. Well, now it's not Kyle. Now it's gonna be Kathy. Then Kyle's my third favorite. And then Kyle cracking up and then pretending now that she's mad. You wanna know what I did recently? As early as this weekend, I went to a little place where I used to live. It's a magical land called West Hollywood. And I was out at a bar, Clerbin with the boys, and I saw one of our good friends whose name on this show is old queen at a bar. Glissando. Glissando brrring ring. Old queen at the bar was just hunched over there on his stool and swirling a martini around. He said, rondel, is that you? Come to me. I have something to tell you. I said, old queen in a bar. You're going to get me in trouble, you naughty minx. And then he laid the tea upon me. Okay, so here's what old queen in the bar said, now, I don't believe this. There is no proof of this. I don't know that this is true. Don't sue me, because I only know this from some old queen in a bar. So, by the way, that's vacuuming going behind my head, because we are the most professional podcast on the Internet. Okay, thanks.

[Ben Mandelker]

Of course.

[Ronnie Karam]

So here's what he said, that when Kyle was first into Dorit, not dorit, when Kyle was first into Morgan, it was just like an instagram thing, and she was like, oh, my God, I like this girl on instagram and I can't. I'm gonna meet her. Like, I've been dming her and, like, I wanna be friends with this girl. And dorit was like, okay. So they got together with Morgan, and supposedly Morgan was showing interest in dorit and, like, dorit and not Kyle because Kyle and this girl were just friends with her, supposedly. And Morgan liked dorit. And then that's why kyle magically hates dorit and won't speak to her. And they can't talk about it because Kyle's not supposed to be talking about Morgan this season. I was like, girl, I don't know if I believe that, but I kind of do because it fits with Kyle. You know, I love.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love a wonky triangle, you know, And Kyle loves a drama triangle. She loves a drama triangle. She's always in one with. With her sisters. She'll put herself in one with whoever. Whoever's in her life because she likes to replicate that relationship with her sisters with. With other people. But now she's in a love triangle, and then she's in two love triangles at once. One with mauricio, now one with Morgan. She's literally in a love rhombus at this point, and it's very exciting to me. I hope this is true, because this is a really delicious rumor. And you know what?

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't know if it's true, obviously. I. I kind of feel like probably it's not. Like, maybe or. I mean, who wouldn't like to read? She's gorgeous, you know, and she's a. She's a total dip, you know, like, who doesn't love that? I think she's adorable, but it also would be a double whammy just because the whole rumor last season was that dorit was having an affair with mauricio because, remember when she kissed his shoulder when they were hugging after. I don't know, something traumatic happened, and that was the rumor then, that dorit was fucking. So Kyle's just being constantly attacked by, like, oh, Kyle and Mauricio are breaking up because he's more into dorit than Kyle. So whether or not I don't think that's true, but I think that Kyle reads the same rumors that we do, and so that's got to already bug her with dorit. And then comes the Morgan thing. Oh, my God. It's like, can Kyle just get a piece of ass of her own?

[Ben Mandelker]

I have to say, this is this rumor. Even if it's false, it's such a fun one to entertain. I'm just so grateful. I'm grateful for rumors sometimes because just even considered as a fan. Yeah. You know, just as, like, fan fiction. I love the idea of Morgan Wade, like, coming to Beverly hills. And she's there and she puts down her little bindle on the stick and she sees Dori and she's like, oh, you're real purdy. I never seen a real purdy girl like you before.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, real life Barbie doll. Can I cut your hair? Do not cut my hair. Can I put Matthew marker makeup on? You cannot do that. It's a Barbie doll. I can't play with. Kyla would play with a Barbie doll.

[Ben Mandelker]

I made you something real birdie. Oh, thank you. It's a. Is this a bundle of dead leaves touched by a string?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it's seasonal, you know. You know what I want to do with you? I'll put a can of worms with you. It's a literal can of worms dust. No. I love you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, why don't. Why don't we leave this whole dust of town and ride the rails for the rest of our lives? If you can tell me about what it's like in Europe where you're from. Oh, well, that is sort of appealing. She thinks I'm English.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

So that rumor is.

[Ben Mandelker]

What do you say?

[Ronnie Karam]

That rumor is probably total trash, but, God, I love it. I think it's so funny. And it really did give me. Because I obviously came into this episode having heard that already, and it really did give me a new perspective on this episode. I just loved it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think that is a great. This is. This is a great twist in this early in the recap. So Kyle. So Kyle is now pretending like she's mad at Dorit because of an obvious joke at Bravocon. And Kyle's like. Kyle's like, well, you did that. And then you looked at me and you said, oh, I don't know, Kyle. It was a joke. It's tongue and cheek, Kyle. Gee, I thought you understood jokes. It's something that we. You and I used to do a lot, Kyle.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, but, you know, I was very emotional that whole time. And, like, you knew what was going on. Like, I'd shared things with you and, like, I started crying when I was asked about it. And then we see a flashback to whatever lie Kyle is brewing up right now. And she's on the couch with the microphone and she's like, well, like, obviously, my life. It's like, not my idea of a fairy tale, obviously. And then. Which I didn't really get this clip. And then Kyle's like, well, and then later, you said to certain people that I turned the tears on for attention. Why are you smiling? Like, that's not true. And because it's. It is true what dorit said. And it's crazy that you're trying to turn all of this non fighting into a fight so you have some kind of hill to stand on. So you're crazy.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, Kyle, better be careful because if she comes for Dorit too hard, Dorit's gonna start doing the little. Her little jabs motion where she takes her fist and explodes it out. Little jabs, little jabs coil. So dorit is like, this is exactly what I expected. You think I'm some fucking idiot? That that is absolutely not why you went to Amazon live and said that. You know what I think, Kyle? You are mad that I said something. And watch what happens live. That wasn't even a big deal. And Andy asked, how has your relationship been affected by pal and Morgan's relationship? Roll that flashback now, please.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we see wow. And it's like, well, I feel like the clues she got with Morgan, she got fleeting. And Andy's like, wow, that's interesting. Are you sleeping? Am I boring you, Indy? Sorry, I can't really help it. Well, Kyle, I love you. I'm sorry to say it, but it's the truth. It's how I feel. And so Dorit flashback to Doritos. Like, I said that Kyle forbid Coyle the worst thing in the world. And then you decided, now I'm going to show her. And that's why I've showed up as album of the year.

[Ben Mandelker]

Literally on my.

[Ronnie Karam]

Head and read the record on top of her head.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, wiggy, wiggy, wiggy, wiggy. DJ James Kennedy's like, well, now that I'm out of a job, I just had to play Dorit's head all the time. Wiggy, wiggy. So then dorit tells us Dorit uses Kyle's language against her. She says, well, if Kyle could just be honest and open and honest. Tell me what that re. What really pissed her off, got her in trouble with Morgan. It caused all sorts of issues. And just tell me that she was upset about that. And then we can have an honest conversation. Moving on, Kyle.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we see Sutton and Jennifer Tilly watching all of this, and Sutton's like, wow, there's a lot of point in there. There's a lot of pointing. And as a Sutton person, I'm going to have to put them in their place. That's that. And then Jennifer is like, look at them fighting. It's wonderful.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we go back to Dorit and she's like, kyle, you isolated me. You didn't speak to me for months. Kyle, why did you not just come up to me and say, dorit, I'm mad at you for this. Dorit, I'm upset at you for this.

[Ronnie Karam]

I didn't have it in me. I just didn't have it in me. I was going through a very hard time. We go through things. You go through things. I go through things. Just say you were an asshole. Just say you were an asshole. I found better friends than you, and I ditched you for the better friends, okay? I can't be the only person who's found a better friend and then ditch the other friend. You're not fun. You're boring, okay? I don't like you in your fake stupid clothes, and your husband looks like the pillberry doughboy, and he never shuts up about boy George. I don't want to hang out with you anymore. You're stupid. The only people who like you are my husband and your husband. Bye. I'm done with you. That's it.

[Ben Mandelker]

But also, like, Kyle's whole I was struggling thing, you know, over the marriage with or the separation with Mauricio, but now, you know, that's nullified because now Dorit is struggling with PK So it's like, even playing field doesn't work.

[Ronnie Karam]

Both Doritos. At least you had a hot girlfriend. Dorit was getting robbed, supposedly by a bunch of people, you know, and, like, being traumatized while she was also living with PK the pickle face. Okay? So she's had a lot to. She's had a lot to deal with.

[Ben Mandelker]

Pickle face to also deal with the stress of watching PK flirt with having diabetics. 2, 3, and 4.

[Ronnie Karam]

Do you know how many versions of diabetes came to my home, Kyle? There were not only regular invaders, there were diabetes invader. I went to Target once. I was stalked by diabetes. There was diabetes medication stolen out of my.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now Kyle does her whole, I've been a good fucking friend. I don't care what you say. Just because you say it doesn't make it true. Well, you can't say you're a good fucking friend but then also go on to Amazon live and be like, we're, like, barely friends. It's like, are you a good friend then? You can't be good friends in a situation where you're barely friends.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, you're not. You're not a good friend, literally, to anybody. Can you point out one person on this show, they could say, wow, there's a consistent friend. Nobody. Zero. They have nobody on Resnick. Well, maybe, but yeah, Faye and like people on the cast. Nope. Kyle's fucked over every single person on this cast. She's. Who are her friends? The kiss asses? She's got Teddy who's literally having copycat affairs over there. And then she's got Faye and that's it. And that guy from the access Hollywood. And I'm not coming for him or whatever. He's cute. Cute Justin.

[Ben Mandelker]

Her Justin.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, he's very cute and always nice to her. But those three are the ones that I can think of.

[Ben Mandelker]

She doesn't even have Glenn in her life anymore.

[Ronnie Karam]

Right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Daughters. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. So then Kyle is so. So Dorit's like a good friend Kyle. When they're mad, they'll tell their friend, gee, I'm mad. And then they try to work through it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And Kyle's like, well, I'm sorry, but those like the last two years are literally the worst two years of my life. I mean, becoming a hundred millionaire, that was really rough. Moving to my third mansion in like two years, super, super hard. Finding the hottest girlfriend in my life, really difficult. Traveling all over the world with said girlfriend and dumping my husband. Really, really. What the fuck are you talking about? You've had the best two years. You've had the best midlife crisis of anybody I've ever known. I hope it goes down in the history books of how much fun you've been having for the past. You've always been having the worst two years of your life. Give me a break. Has there ever been a season where Kyle's not having the worst year of her life?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I hate to be a gray cloud on this, Ronnie, but I will say in Kyle's light defense, I mean, she. Her marriage of 26 years did fall apart and her best friend did, you know, die.

[Ronnie Karam]

She did.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was hard. It was hard. I don't think that we're going to take away that it was hard. And I know you were just. You were being jokey because it's Kyle and we just don't want to give Kyle anything.

[Ronnie Karam]

But like, I forgot about my best friend.

[Ben Mandelker]

Also had. Dorit has also had a very difficult past few years. Pk, the situation with PK and alcoholic. And then also, you know, home invasion, whether a stage or not. I think that a lot of people have settled on that may have been staged by pk, but dorit probably didn't. Dorit did not know that. I don't think that dorit was in on anything. If there was a scheme Dorit was not in on it. She was legitimately traumatized by it. Dorit's gone through a hard time also, and this is not the hard time Olympics, okay? We're not watching Roni right now. So, like, you know, Kyle, you're not going to get any bonus points by saying you're going through a hard time, because guess what? Why don't you look at Erica also? I mean, not to say that, like, oh, Erica is a victim. But, Eric, like, however you feel about Erica, she's got. She went through the ringer, okay? And then before that, Sutton went through the ringer with her husband. People go to the ringer and it sucks and doesn't mean like, oh, like, we should just, like, write it off because everyone else has done it too. But it does not explain being shitty to your friends. And so Dorit, you know, in fact, the Kyle trying to pull this move while Dorit is in the middle of her shit phase is just so obnoxious. And Kyle doing the whole, you know what? These last two years, the hardest two years of my life. So give me a little fucking grace. And I loved that. Dorit was like, I think I did, Kyle. I think I did a little bit too much. And when you get to the point where you can go publicly and say, I exaggerated our friendship, grace time is over. Grace time is over, Kyle. I was like, oh, it's a read. Yes. Yes. You know what? Yes. Yes. Bravo, Liberty of the year.

[Ronnie Karam]

No more grace time. Grace time is over. Coil. And so Kyle's like, it's funny because I can't. And Kyle kept making these looks at the camera where she'd be like. Like, right off camera, I just.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wearing antlers, too.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wearing the antlers, yes. She's like the deer that Karen. Karen ran into on Satomi.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. Talk about a deer in the headlights. That is Kyle right now. And by the way, it was funny because the season premiere was called grace time is over, but the actual phrase grace time is over appear in this episode. So. Hello. But that's a very internety observation to make. But I'm not going to lie. It was plaguing my brain for the past 18 hours.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Kyle grabs her water, and she takes a big, dramatic gulp of it. And she's like, I am out of here. And Kyle's like, I see. Or Dorit's like, I see fucking expects it. So then Kyle's like, I've been a bad friend. And you just get to say this now because I'm mad at you. Well, how Convenient. Yeah, but that's what you're doing. It's exactly what you're doing. She says, you hurt me, and now you have to create something to justify your behavior. That's exactly what you're doing by coming up with all this gobbledygook, stupid reasons why you were mad at Dorit and are right and treating her like shit when you dumped her. You were not right in treating her like shit. I don't care what's going on in your life, ma'am.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, precisely. So then Garcelle walks up, because Garcelle sees that there's some tea to be spilled. She's like, so, Kyle, normally I can't stand you, but I want to get the gossip from you. So what happened? And she's like, well, it's impossible to talk to her. Have you considered taking off the antlers? No, absolutely not. Why should I have to take off my antlers?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, some people could get scared that something with antlers is talking to them. I'm just saying.

[Ben Mandelker]

Some people may want to shoot you. They think you're a deer. Well, I have actually never seen her act like that and never seen her act like that ever. And I feel like I was talking to an imposter. But guess what? When you talk to me, I'm not an imposter. I'm an actress who works in horror movies. Thank you very much and good night.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then we got Garcelle's signature. Wow. Wow, wow. And back inside the party. Erica is checking on Dorit. And Dorit's like, well, I've got to go. And Erica's like, what's the tea girl? And she's like, well, remember what I told you in order to work it out, that I need to be able to have an honest, real conversation. That's what you need?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, it's not what I got. Yeah, here's what I got. Grease time is over. Greece time is over. It's over.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, I feel like I'm watching last season of Real Housewives of Potomac and Giselle taking her daughter to college. Grace time is over. Sick burn. So Therese, I can guarantee you, does.

[Ronnie Karam]

Not watch the Real Housewives of Potomac. I will bet you $5 million money that I do not have.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like. It's like so many people walking up to Deborah messing. Grace time is over. So is that better? Is that better? That's better. That's better.

[Ronnie Karam]

So I could tell you what I feel. Let me tell you what I feel. Sit up. I feel freed up with Kyle. I'm fed up with friendship. I'm fed up with marriage. I'm freed up with having the way of being felt the way I felt. I'm freed up with having to keep my mouth shut. I'm fed up with records on my head. Have you ever tried to wear a beat Max on your head? It hurts even. Even more. I'm feed off. I can't take any more of it. Fed up with Jaguar. You little. Stop riding bikes in the house. God damn it. I've hit it. Dorit's really.

[Ben Mandelker]

You sound going there, Dorit. You sound a little. You sound a little hungry.

[Ronnie Karam]

Are you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Are you hungry? But as it turns out, while I am fed up with many things, I personally am not actually fed. So, yes, I could use naud.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's what I strive for. It's only figurative feeding, right? Not into literal feeding. So then Boza's like, well, okay, bye, everyone. I'm gonna drink more tequila. I'm CEO of Tequila Tequila. Get in here. I'm calling a meeting. Don Julio, get in here now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Where are my ducklings? All five of us have to walk out. Cause they show. Well, we'll get to it in a second. But Dorit is like, ladies and gentlemen of America, I need to have a voice. I'm no longer that girl that you've seen the last two years. I'm bigger, better, stronger than ever. And then a cake just winds up in her face. And I am still playing Wendy in the pant in England. Or I can cake in my face.

[Ronnie Karam]

Let me tell you, bad relationships can't between. Can come between an actor and a real role. Thank you. So off the camera, she's like, fuck you, and flips us off, gives us the good old f you to the camera.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, she's three badass.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's why they have music this year. That's like, I'm a badass bitch and I'm fed up. I've got new shoes.

[Ben Mandelker]

They really. They really sent Alan Lazar out to the dumpster. They're like, we don't want any more high tea strings anymore. We want badass selling sunset music. But he's like, but I just came up with a new song. Are you sure you don't want to hear it? Here it goes. No. Get me Trixie monocle. This season needs a real lady.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, they really did. They just really shoved that guy out. You know, I feel like he needs to sue for ageism or something, because that's not cool what you guys did to Alan Lazar. I mean, what did he ever do to you? He would have had a song called Dorit's Fed up. And you're right, it would have gone just like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, well, you know what? They're just clearing out all the Vanderpump era things. You know that. Al Mazar, sir, The original cast of Vanderpump Rules, Schwartz and Sandy's.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's all out. It's all gone now.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's very sad.

[Ronnie Karam]

We'll be talking about that on Crappy Hour, I'm sure, this week. So if you guys want to hear us bemoan the loss, Vanderpump rules as we once knew it, please come listen.

[Ben Mandelker]

And by the way, on Mondays, actually might be a good time to mention Crappy Hour is going to be a little bit earlier this week or this coming week. It's going to be at 3:00 Pacific, 6:00 Eastern. How about that?

[Ronnie Karam]

Crazy changes coming up. And you know why? Because we'll see that.

[Ben Mandelker]

So is that the right timing? Three? Yeah, yeah, that's right timing. Yeah, three. 3:00, 3:00 this Monday.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, so Dorit is. Dorit wants to get out of the dress and Erica's like, throw it in the trash, by the way. I'll be waiting by the trash. It's a cute dress. So then Kyle's coming out. She's like, oh, my God. D's out here. Oh my God. How am I storming out at the same time as Dorit? This is crazy. Can I get my driver first? I've had a very difficult new year. It's like a very difficult. I had a very difficult night tonight.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And there's just basically people saying goodbye and good night and. And B. See, now I'm saying, boss, Bose is basically like, wow, they seem really upset, so they just. They leave. And Kyle's like, this is the worst party, man, night of my. My life. So now. Now we have the official get to know Bose scene. Introducing Bose. And we see Bose is basically. She's h. She throws these events called the Badass Workshop, curated by Boza St. John. And we see this hall, it's a whole. It's kind of like. It's a big self help thing. The chairs are set up. It's somewhere between like Tom Cruz and Magnolia and like that. That cult leader guy on hbo. And I mean that in the best possible way she is doing it. And so she gets out of her car and I. This shot that they got of her, she looked like she was doing the sixth line in New Orleans almost. She gets out and she has, like, a team of assistants, and they're all shorter than her, and she's just, like, marching down the sidewalk, and they're marching with her, and they are. It is literally like Mother Goose and the goslings just going right down the sidewalk. I just loved it.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, welcome. I'm Boze, and I have badass woman workshops. And here we go. Build this sidewalk. Look at them. Build this sidewalk right in front of me for me to walk over it. Walking over the sidewalk as they build it. It's me, Bose, the badass.

[Ben Mandelker]

She, like, stops. They stop. She starts walking. They start walking. It was like. Like such a funny visual to me. And she's just like. She's, like, strutting. She's strutting down. Her hair is, like, really tall. Her dress is big and everything. And they're just like. It's, like, all synchronized perfectly. I was like, this is the campiest, most ridiculous thing that has.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, should I go up to the step and repeat? Yes. Because I praise Jesus for it. Yes. Step and repeat. Now they call it the step and repeat. Repeat again. Yes, I'll do it for you. Turn, pose, turn. That's all they want from me. Turning here. I. Turning. I was like, who is this lady? She's fucking nuts. And then she just kind of stands there on the red carpet. Is this where she's just kind of standing there and she's posing? And then people just keep walking up to her and they're like, oh, my God, you are my hero. She's like, oh, stop it. Click it, click it, click it.

[Ben Mandelker]

All these people. This one girl is like, oh, my God. The only other person I admire more than you is Beyonce. She was like, oh, stop it. You should admire me more. More than Beyonce? Let's be honest.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, she. I was gonna say she would have kicked her off that red carpet. She said, you're the only person I admire more than Beyonce. She's not going to give Beyonce more cred than Bose. Are you kidding? Bose would have had her kicked off, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

My bad.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ben Mandelker]

So Boz is talking about, you know, she was Forbes for Forbes named her number one most influential CMO in the world. That's chief marketing officer. She's been Fast Company's 100 most creative people. Ebony named her one of the most powerful in the world. I mean, should I go on?

[Ronnie Karam]

I've come up with the awesome Blossom before that. You know what? It was an onion. They would call it the fried onion. I said, no, this is not the badass way of doing it. And now it's the awesome Blossom.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, looking at all these accomplishments that she's basically, you know, done in like corporate America, I really can only think of one thing, basically corporate America in one fabulous thing like this.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know what I mean? Well, since I've retired from formal corporate life, from formal corporate life, I've been busier than ever. I'm doing podcasts, workshops, advocacy, basically being a badass. I thought retirement was putting my legs up. That sounds ridiculous. I don't mean it that way, although I would. I'd have the biggest portello in the world, I'd brand that be badass Bows. Legs in the air, not ashamed of a goddamn thing. Boys, I love it.

[Ben Mandelker]

We just, like.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't like this background. Get me into one. There they go. Building behind me. Sorry. It's like the little workers from the Mario. Build it faster. There they go. Faster. Boys. I'm in construction now. CEO of badass Construction. Ladies, good. Now get out.

[Ben Mandelker]

Who is ready for a Badass Workshop? People? And all these people in their chairs. Like, she's, like, doing her own infomercial. Like, her own live infomercial. It's.

[Ronnie Karam]

She is.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like. I start. It's. I mean, normally when I see someone like this, I'm like, okay, you're a crook. But she has the credits to back it up. I'm like, I. My instinct says you're a crook, but you're not a crook at all. You are just a corporate, like, powerhouse. So she's like, I started Badass Workshop because everyone always says to me, how do I get the corner office? And I said, you build the corner office. And guess what? Then you have all four corners. Because it's only. That's how you do it. That's what a badass does. And if I had a dollar for every time someone asked me a question, well, guess what? I'm already a millionaire. But I'd be even more of a millionaire. I'd be a double millionaire. That's called stepping. Repeating your millionaires.

[Ronnie Karam]

Here's how to be a badass. Okay, this session is called pivoting to your best, greatest self. This pivot is deeply personal. It's personal because I've already done it. I was 10 years in PepsiCo. In January of that year, I successfully negotiated the deal with the NFL to have the Super bowl halftime be sponsored by PepsiCo. And a few months later, we discovered. Hold the applause. My husband had cancer. And everyone's like, oh. And she's like. And it becomes a really sad story about her husband. She found the love of her life. And she's like, I can't believe I ended up with this somewhat dorky white guy. But we did, and we fell in love and we had this beautiful child. And then he died. And she's like. And we were robbed of him. And then I decided, guess what? I went into a meeting, and they said, listen, here's what we think about you. You're not enough of a badass. And I said, well, guess what? I'm rebranding. And from now on, I'm a badass. And like a phoenix, I rose from the ashes. I rose and I owned that company. That company is now Cherry PepsiCo, one of the biggest companies.

[Ben Mandelker]

She does mention PepsiCo a lot. Lot.

[Ronnie Karam]

I put the.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is the new year of my Life, the new PepsiCo, if you will. And the last ladder I climbed up in corporate America was built on fizz and soda and was built by other people. But guess what? This new ladder is built by me. Rung by rung. And as it happens, those rungs are made of PepsiCo cans. That's okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

The rungs are the little plastic things that seals get stuck in that keep folks together.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cut your own scissors, everyone, and cut those rings off your thrifts. And that's how you can be a badass and succeed.

[Ronnie Karam]

You don't want dolphins to die in your rungs, ladies. Am I right? Be a true dolphin saving badass. And this is why the dolphins lift me up as their queen. That's the next ceremony, that's the next seminar. Buy your tickets to being a badass queen for dolphins.

[Ben Mandelker]

And let's all remember Coca Cola Polar bear are pussies.

[Ronnie Karam]

But so funny beyond just sorry, it's so good to me. Just beyond the general hilarity of this lady and her confidence, which is just so beautiful, you know, I love it, is the fact that this is very mommy dearest for anybody who went to gay college and watched that movie from back in the day. She marries some rich dude, which is, this is not her obviously, but this part of it was. She married like one of the shareholders of PepsiCo. And when he died, she still, she went to the board meeting and she's like, I'm taking over. You're all fired. Don't fuck with me, fellas. This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think what Ronnie is trying to say is that PepsiCo really provides a fertile breeding ground for gay icons.

[Ronnie Karam]

It really does. Don't you think that's funny that she's like. And then I told PepsiCo, well I'm a badass now, so you better get in line. And then guess what I did. I got some workers and I built a line.

[Ben Mandelker]

And they said, they said, bo's. How many? You haven't hit as many home runs lately. And I said, well guess what, take me to PepsiCo park because I'm about to hit a grand slap. So. So they're all like losing their minds. They're cheering for her. They're just, they just, they love her again. Like normally if I see someone doing their Own, like on their own motivational speaking self help tour, doing like the, you know, hotel ballrooms and having like a cult like thing. I'm always like, there's a grift going on. But she's real. One of the rare cases where I'm like, no, she seems like she's just like a smart person who knows how to monetize what she's good at.

[Ronnie Karam]

So, yeah, I didn't get any grift. What I definitely got though was just that feeling of like, wow, you can really just do whatever you want in this life. I mean, it is really empowering to see somebody just like, guess what? But I'm going to have a seminar and it's called a badass, Ladies. I'm going to. I'm just going to. I mean, it's crazy to just watch someone build a crazy life like that. To me, I mean, I think it's amazing. It's inspiring. I was like, what do I want to do? I'm going to do so much. I'm going to wake up there and I'm going to go out. I'm a badass. And then I woke up and I started crying with workers in my backyard. So, I mean, I don't know that it translated to me, but the hope was there for sure.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now we go over to Kyle and Sutton, go to Ruth.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm so sorry, because I have to say one part. We were done with the scene. This is my fault. But she goes, the things that happen in your life don't have to make you sit down. You can get up and you can do something. You are the actual pivot. I was like, what? And then a lady went. And then someone says. And I was like, oh, my God, she's got her own cults. You are the pivot. Fuck does that mean? And why do I want to do it now? I just started doing step ball changes in my house. I'm like, I'm pivoting. I'm pivoting, pivoting.

[Ben Mandelker]

Knocking into walls. I'm not gonna let any wall get in the way of my pivot. So speaking of, speaking of pivoting, we now go to Kyle and Sutton. They're at a rooftop bar. And Sutton's like, h, the last time I was here at this bar, I got little boat talks because I was here for an Oscar party. Yeah, I guess that's my way of not really talking about Botox, but mentioning that I got invited to an Oscar party. What about you, Kyle? What party did you get invited to recently? Was There a Glad bag opening that you. You got to go to. And he's like. She's like, yes, but how long ago was that? A month ago. Yeah, it was a recent Oscar party. That's what you call Kyle. Anyway, you want to talk about all things going on in your life. I just want to get that in there.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sounds like. Yep. It was about up a month ago. That got my Botox. Can you tell Kyle? And Kyle's, like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Really tough here for me.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's been a really tough year for me. You know, it's been a really tough year for me. And for some reason, it's showing on your face, which is really weird. She's so rude.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, by the way, there was a.

[Ben Mandelker]

The Oscars. What?

[Ronnie Karam]

There was a. Was this a DM or. Oh, God. Now what's going on there on the roof now? I don't know what's happening in the house. House. I'm scared. Something terrifying is happening up there. The hills do happen. Tiles on the roof.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why did you Bo's. It's Boaz. Why did you stop speaking about the Badass Workshop?

[Ronnie Karam]

I didn't give you permission to stop speaking. I built myself a podium right on your roof. Someone. Someone sent me a DM last week saying, Ronnie, like, get over your Kyle thing. You know, it's a really long time to hold a grudge about Lisa Vanderpump. I don't hold a grudge about Lisa Vanderpump. I think Lisa Vanderpump really, really failed on her last season by running away and not sticking up to these people. I feel like she let me down as a fan. I said that at the time. This has nothing to do with that. That's old news. Kyle is currently annoying. I'm not going off things that were annoying last season. I'm starting fresh. This is fresh annoyance, okay? This is not some stale shit I'm giving you from last year. This is freshly baked. Okay, you're welcome. Okay, go on.

[Ben Mandelker]

Annoyance.

[Ronnie Karam]

So I'm willing to give you chances. You just keep failing them. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kyle's having a real big villain season. I feel like Kyle is always the villain, but the show does not treat her like the villain. I feel like the show treats her like the hero still. But I think this is the first season where the show is acknowledging that Kyle is the villain, and it's really exciting. And so I think we all have our right to dislike Kyle on her own terms, not because of any grudge from Lisa Vanderpump. And I think that's what you're responding to and what I'm responding to. So the producer basically asked Sudden why she trusts Kyle again. And Son's like, who said I trusted her? I just wanted to brag that I went to an Oscar party. That's it. Now I gotta listen to her talk about bullshit.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then we. Because we see the whole onslaught of things that Kyle did to Sutton last year where she was trying to gaslight her and make her an alcoholic and being like, oh, my God, are you just. You must be on your foot medication. I mean, I don't know, you're just not acting like you' which is what Kyle is currently doing to Dorit, where Dorit doesn't agree with Kyle on something. So Kyle's like, oh, my God, something's going on with you where you're just not even yourself. Like, I don't even know who you are. Like, it's going to probably turn into, are you drinking? Are you? Because that's what Kyle does. She starts insinuating shit about you. And so then, you know, we come back, and then Sutton's like, well, so Kyle goes, do you like my bag? Because she got a new bag in Saint Tropez. And then Carl's like, isn't. Isn't it subtle? And then we see a picture of Carl and Saint Tropez with a giant bag that says, says San Tropez. Yeah, Kyle.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, super subtle. Sutton literally says, I love that bag so much. And she goes, isn't it great? It's from San Trope I got in Saint Tropez. Yeah, Kyle, we can see it says Saint Tropez on it. Fucking idiot. So she's just so shameless. Okay, so Sutton is like, oh, was that your last family vacation before it was your family was broken? I went to an Oscar party. And Kyle's like, yeah, well, we. No, we did all just do stage coach together. Yeah. Yeah. And we all stayed at our house there that we have, because we have a house there in la. So we went there together as a family because everything's great. And Son's like, really? I mean, we were in different rooms. I was in the room that was reserved for people who've been in Halloween. And it was great. It was a great time at Stagecoach when I was in my Halloween room. Sounds like, oh, okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, it's just weird because the alarm clock in there is a brick being thrown at your face so that, you know, it's kind of uncomfortable. But, you know, I did have it installed. So how's it going with you and she's like, we're all getting along. And sudden goes, for now, she's like, no, we're, we're. We're gonna get along. I mean, we. We get along. We're going to get along.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sun's like, I just think when it comes to money, people can be different. Cause, like, listen, I trust that in a sense, because, like, everything we have is like 50. 50. So, like, yes, of course, the. I mean, the agency is also mine. And I'll tell you why. I'll tell. See why. Because first of all, he always says it was written in a book, that if it wasn't for my wife, I would not have done this. And so, like, he. And he goes on interviews. I'm not even joking. He says, like, if it wasn't for me. So it's like, really my business too. Like, I think it's not just sudden. We're all saying, like, Kyle, she is not going to. This is not going to. This will not last. And I love when son says, I don't see the book being used as evidence in divorce court. Those forensic people are going to come in there and burn that book.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, well, we've seen so many nasty divorces, especially in Beverly Hills and on Beverly Hills. But I believe I read somewhere that Kyle is part owner of the agency. I believe that she's part owner. So I don't think that he could completely just her over.

[Ben Mandelker]

True. But he can try. That's the thing is that, like, he may not be able to do it, but she, I think, is fooling herself if she thinks that he's not going to try to be like, okay, Kyle can get like 25% and she be like, no, it's 50. 50. I just watched that percentage. He's going to take. He's going to go after that percentage.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, we'll see. But, yeah, I never trust in a divorce. Never have this trust. But who knows what they're even doing, these two, you know what I mean? They might just be like, oh, let's just be like best friends and still stay married. I mean, who knows what they're doing? I don't know. So she's trying too hard to make me care, and it just makes me care less. Like, I don't. I don't care. So Kyle's like, we started with nothing and we built it together. And there's nothing like the, you know, there's nothing to have half. And I mean, that's. That's it. She goes, well, I just don't trust any of Them. And she tells us. The lesson is very clear coming out of my marriage. Men do not like parting with their money, honey. Well, don't you make like 350 grand a month? I mean, he's parting with it. Who does want to be sure he doesn't. Who would.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, that's not her. If you go get your money, Kyle.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think I'm gonna be very honest with you. I went to an Oscar party also.

[Ronnie Karam]

Let me tell you, I don't even remember who was playing at that Oscar party, but I. My favorite song was the sound of Lisa Rinna outside knocking on the door, begging to be let in. I told her. I told her I had a ticket for her, but I didn't. It was so funny. I mean, you just heard out side horse help. This is the best song. I recorded it on my phone if you want to listen to it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Listen, I just called up Lisa, I said, look, I can't get you into the Oscar party, but I do hear they have a spot reserved for you at the TV Land Awards, so enjoy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hey, welcome to Happy's Place. Here's the happiest place on play. I just want to have a place for my family. We have to watch Happy's Place. Can we watch Happy's Place live on the air with re from McIntyre?

[Ben Mandelker]

The way that. The way that you weep Happiest place in between Heather Debro and Alisa Rinna. It's perfect.

[Ronnie Karam]

It just cracks me up. Happy place.

[Ben Mandelker]

So McIntyre as a barkeep beside the my family. What if we have a show with Holly Hunter and Rea McIntyre? Hi, I'm Holly Hunter and I'm starring in Happy Place Rea mc Time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, look at you. You sure are. Holly. Holly. Holly. Holly Hunter. Hunter Free Holly. Holly Hunter Free. Shit's funny, huh?

[Ben Mandelker]

Now listen, Happy. I know your name may be Happy, but if we're going to do things, we're gonna do things my way, okay? You're gonna be quiet. I'm gonna bring in some files, you're gonna write down some testimony, and then we're gonna take this all the way to the top.

[Ronnie Karam]

Darn tootin sister. I love a lady with a notebook. Have a seat. Have a shot. Want a beer? Here's my cousin.

[Ben Mandelker]

I.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is my bar, but I just do this for my fans family.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's Holly Hunter reprising her role from the Firm.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't actually literally everything lately.

[Ben Mandelker]

Always succession. Yeah, yeah, she's always talking. Talking business. Although I think actually in the Firm she was a Skittish secretary, But I could be wrong. Either way.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, so too much Holly Hunter in a. In a recap. So Sutton's like, well, protect your money. So Kyle's getting kind of annoyed with it, and Sutton's like, you need to file. And she goes, listen, if you go on to do something from the date of filing, that's yours, okay? Amazon mine. Amazon Live mine. It should be yours, Kyle. Don't give half of that to Mauricio. And she's like, everybody tells me, draw a line in the sand. But like, I mean, people are like, who filed? Are you filing? Did he file? Are you going to file? Like, that's the stuff. I really just don't understand. Like, we'll figure it out.

[Ben Mandelker]

You do, you do. You lovely, lovely idiot. So Sutton's like, yeah, Kyle needs to get a grip and go talk to an attorney. I mean, quickly. Run, do not walk. And C, this is a tortured conversation. I'm just having such a tough two years. Sounds like. Yes, it is a tortured conversation. Mainly because you're involved. You know how hard it is for me to come up with topics to discuss with you because you're very dumb. Anyway, should we talk about surrealism? Nope. I know you don't know anything about that, Dolly. Oh, don't want to go back to that again. I have to talk about sheep for 10 minutes. Well, anyway, I'm just trying to give you tough love. And I just want you to be smart. Lol, Cal. Richard's being smart. Okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

Anyway, good luck on that journey. Am I right, by the way? I'm so sorry. I want to go read that booth over there where I got Botox. Goodbye. Are we done here? I was like, hey, I'm having a difficult year. Hello there. This is a two part recap, okay? This the end of part one, so thank you so much for listening to this. Just come back a little later for part two.

[Ben Mandelker]

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