#2636 RHOBH S1402 Part Two: PKs and Valleys

Summary

Watch What Crappens Episode #2636: RHOBH S1402 Part Two: PKs and Valleys
Release Date: November 27, 2024
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam | Wondery

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Overview

In Episode #2636 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve deep into the tumultuous second season of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH), focusing specifically on the dramatic fallout surrounding Kyle Richards and her separation from Mauricio Umansky (PK). This detailed, two-part recap (with this episode being Part Two) offers listeners an engaging analysis filled with humor, sharp commentary, and memorable quotes from the show.

Key Discussions and Plot Points

Bo's Lavish Home and Erica's Visit ([03:26] - [04:40])

Ben and Ronnie kick off the episode by describing Bo Derek's extravagant home, highlighting the new signage and decor that scream opulence. They humorously critique the pristine state of Bo's fridge, contrasting it with their own disorganized spaces. A standout moment occurs when Erica pours gold dust over a fruit platter, prompting Ben to joke:

Ben Mandelker ([04:22]): "Now wait, hold on. Do you think my new friends who I met at the party, do you think that they like gold as much as I like gold?"

This scene sets the tone for the episode, emphasizing the excess and superficiality often portrayed in RHOBH.

Character Dynamics and Conflicts ([04:40] - [12:35])

The hosts dissect the interactions between Erica, Dorit, and Kyle, focusing on underlying tensions and past grievances. Ronnie lauds Nico, Bo's assistant, for his supportive role:

Ronnie Karam ([04:40]): "Nico, my new favorite gay on Bravo. What a sweet, sweet, sweet energy this guy has."

They explore Kyle's struggles with her divorce, her strained relationship with Dorit, and the broader implications of her actions, such as her shifting affiliations and public demeanor. Ben provides a humorous take on Kyle's behavior:

Ben Mandelker ([07:13]): "If I knew that I had to take off my Chanel mules, I may not have worn them, because they really are part of the outfit."

Dramatic Confrontations and Passive-Aggressive Acts ([12:35] - [27:35])

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the escalating drama between Kyle and Mauricio, including passive-aggressive gestures like replacing personal photos with images from Dancing with the Stars. The hosts highlight the absurdity of Kyle's reactions and Mauricio's indifferent attitude:

Ronnie Karam ([36:34]): "So Kathy says, you know, over the years, we've had our ups and downs with Mo. You know, I'd heard from a lot of people that he was talking a lot about Hilton and Highland and Rick on his show."

Ben amplifies the humor by mocking the unrealistic nature of their disputes:

Ben Mandelker ([37:57]): "She's like, we only have the utmost respect for each other, even through this process. He sent me flowers on Mother's Day."

PK and Dorit's Struggles ([27:35] - [49:21])

The episode delves into the strained relationship between PK and Dorit, emphasizing PK's battle with severe alcoholism and the impact it has on their marriage and family life. The hosts use sharp wit to portray the dysfunction:

Ronnie Karam ([48:56]): "Oh, I hope you're done alone for the rest of your life. You're gonna drown your own fupa."

Ben adds a layer of satire by comparing PK to mundane objects:

Ben Mandelker ([52:55]): "I appreciate it, pk. You are sort of like that jar of mayonnaise."

Humorous Recaps and Satirical Commentary ([49:21] - [54:22])

Ben and Ronnie continue their recounting of the chaotic events, infusing their analysis with humor and sarcasm. They mock the unrealistic scenarios portrayed in the show, such as over-the-top reactions to everyday situations and exaggerated emotional responses.

Ronnie Karam ([53:48]): "Well, this brings us to the end of Beverly Hills. What a wackadoo, chaotic time I had. Recording it and watching it. Super fun."

Notable Quotes

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie pepper their recap with memorable and humorous quotes that capture the essence of the show's drama:

• Ben Mandelker ([10:45]): "Hey, Bubbles, why are you rotating away from us? It's called a pivot and I am the pivot."

• Ronnie Karam ([12:08]): "Health care shouldn't be dramatic, but lawmakers insist on attacking our rights to get the care we need and deserve."

• Ben Mandelker ([26:30]): "I don't know. I just think they will reconcile in a few years."

• Ronnie Karam ([43:58]): "Let's just bring one extra straw and make a placemat for it so we can call it Go Wait."

Insights and Conclusions

Ben and Ronnie provide a critical yet entertaining perspective on RHOBH's portrayal of personal and relational struggles. They highlight the often superficial nature of the conflicts while also acknowledging the real emotional turmoil faced by the cast members. Their satirical approach underscores the absurdity of certain scenarios, making the recap both insightful and amusing for listeners.

The episode concludes with a look forward to future recaps, hinting at more in-depth analyses and humorous takes on upcoming RHOBH seasons. Ben and Ronnie's chemistry and sharp wit make this summary not only informative but also highly entertaining, ensuring that listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of the show's dynamics without needing to watch the episodes themselves.

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[Ben Mandelker]

Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we go to Hancock Park, Bo's house, and there's a plaque that says, so be so good they can't ignore you. See your signs? I made these signs. That's right before this was a house. A house without a sign. And now look at it. This is a badass bitch house.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And Bose is there and she, her assistant Nico is in the kitchen watching her. And she opens up the fridge to pull something out, like her fruit tray, I guess. And she's like, wow, this fridge is full. Lord help us all. I'm like, you have not been to my fridge. That fridge, that fridge looked like Marie Kondo had been there compared to mine where I've got things stuck in every single corner. So then she pulls out this fruit platter and then she starts pouring gold dust on it. And she's like, well, you can't have a fruit platter without gold. Now wait, hold on. Do you think my new friends who I met at the party, do you think that they like gold as much as I like gold? You know, I was very sad that I left PepsiCo before I was able to introduce PepsiCo Gold. Ah, America would have been taken by the sensation of gold.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Nico, my new favorite gay on Bravo. What a sweet, sweet, sweet energy this guy has.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sweet energy. This poor man just had to spend an entire night at a surrealism party hiding under Boza's train. So who doesn't want that?

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, who doesn't want. Yes. I mean, that's like the best assistant work of all time. Like someone literally under your dress the whole night. I'm so into it. And he's like, I think they like gold. So how do you feel about them? Do you like them? Is Kyle Richards really suck? Hey, did Kyle Richards talk about how difficult her past two years have been? That's a tiny violin. I'm the inventor of violin, CEO of Badass Violin.

[Ben Mandelker]

Silence.

[Ronnie Karam]

Silence.

[Ben Mandelker]

Badass bitch talking. Yeah, I thought they were both very nice. Well, first impressions can be deceiving, and I am not one to be deceived. So Erica and Dorit show up, and.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was laughing at literally everything that she said. She's hilarious. I'm not one to be deceived. Huh? Like, are you in your own cartoon now? I love this. So Erica and Dorit come, and Erica's like, oh, I'm so excited to see Buzz's house for once. I have a neighbor. A neighbor's hopefully got some silverware that's not locked up in the cab.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cut to Erica trying to scrape off the gold dust from her, like, grapes. Gathering it, putting into, like, a little vial. Yeah, sure, I can sell this.

[Ronnie Karam]

Anybody have any tweezers? I can get this out later.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think this one could get me a new tire. So Erica's Yeah, she's excited. And Dorit's like, well, Erica, we hit it off. She's corporate America incarnate. Her and I just ended up sharing such personal, intimate details inside of 30 minutes. You know, when she said, hi, how are you? And I said, my husband is an alcoholic, we just really went deep so quickly.

[Ronnie Karam]

Severe, severe, alcoholic. He's so alcoholic and severe. Seriously. So they pull up to the house, and Bozo's like, look at you. So cute, you two. Look at you. You look beautiful. Now take off your shoes, please. We don't allow poor people's shoes in here. Now, please, I'm barefoot. We might as well just do it. Take off your shoes. I'm the CEO of fe. I've started feet. Get in here with your gorgeous feet. I'm trademarking those feet. Get those feet trademarked. Nico, you don't have trademarks on your feet. Okay, have some gold dust grapes.

[Ben Mandelker]

If I knew that I had to take off my Chanel mules, I may not have worn them, because they really are part of the outfit. Sort of like tequila is for PK's personality. Severe alcoholic anyway. But for bars, for bows, I'll make an exception.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, let me tell you, if you ever invite PK over here, he's always got his shoes off. Now, what he won't take off is his rampant alcoholism, so good luck with that one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Unfortunately, PK's shoes are just two cans of Pringles. He's Wrapped around his ankles. Very disturbing. So it's hard to usually get just physically hard to take them off.

[Ronnie Karam]

The only reason he went to AA is because he found out they had chips.

[Ben Mandelker]

He just clopped right in. They asked him if he was gonna go clogging afterwards and he said no, these are my actual shoes.

[Ronnie Karam]

So this house, first of all is a dream of mine. It is so crazy looking. It's not typical at all. It's like she's done every inch of it. It's very maximalism, which is my jam. She has done like every inch of it with something. It's all personality and colors and patterns, but it's not tacky. Like, it all works together really, really well. I loved it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, this is like what Reza tries to do. When he, when he had that like design show, this is what he was like trying to go for. This is. I feel like this is like a Martin Lawrence Ballard situation or something. I don't know. It's just like. It is.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was Martin Lawrence the other day as I passed a bell pepper in a grocery. I said, wow, a bell pepper wrapped in a plastic packaging. Isn't that something? The future is now. Am I right? How do I check this little bad boy out? Are there people working here or is it just a machine? Ooh, are you freaking for dinner, you little self checkout minx.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll tell you who's fresh and easy. There's red pepper.

[Ronnie Karam]

So I will never forget that man from that one season of that show. I still walk around. Were you with me at the Abbey when we met him? He was at the Abbey one night and I was like, oh my God, I love you. And he's like, oh, do you? Do you really? And I said, yes, I think you're fabulous. And he's like, oh, darling, thank you so much. Have a sea. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I, and I, by the way.

[Ronnie Karam]

We were on a dance floor. There was nowhere to sit.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I will never forget seeing him with a grocery basket sort of dangling from his elbow as he browsed through plastic wrapped red peppers at Fresh and Easy. And I just fresh that high low of like Martin Lawrence Ballard shopping for produce at like a budget supermarket. It's just the best thing in the world.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hell yes. I will never forget that story.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's just the best. So they go outside and Bose is like, I'm. I'm so happy you came over. Thank you so much for accepting my invitation. Cheers. Now you speak. And Erica's like, wow. So what did you think about everybody? I mean, hey, let's get down to brass tax. Let's get down to it. Okay, Tell us what you're really thinking. No brass tax. Gold tax only. Oh, that's an expression. Gold tax.

[Ronnie Karam]

Let me tell you, the tax is most important to pay the tax to yourself. You are your own country. You are your own president. You are your own uncle Sam. You're your auntie Sam. Why should it be an uncle? Take that tax and build up, ladies. All right, so who do you think was a bitch? Just say it. Just say it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, Bubbles, why are you rotating away from us? It's called a pivot and I am the pivot. Oh, okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's a box step I've seen. I've been in Chicago. So.

[Ben Mandelker]

Please have a seat on my oversized Pepsi cans. Oh, okay. This is nice.

[Ronnie Karam]

Before I came, they were serving these in bottles, glass bottles. Do you know how many dolphins died in those things? You're welcome, dolphins.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, Bose, do you mind if I call you that? The stuff bond going on between Coyle and I is so layered. Basically, Kyle sort of isolated me. She's a bitch is what I'm trying to say. Be on my team, Carol.

[Ronnie Karam]

Dorit just really goes off and Bose looks like, okay, well, thanks for coming over. Glad I'm getting to talk about myself. And Dorit's like, but how would you feel if you were me? Poor innocent me and Gil came along and just ruined your whole life by just being a bitch for no reason. Would you like to see some? Watch what happens. Live clips. Roll the clips. Roll the clips.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know what it is with Kyle? It's always like, coca Cola this, Coca Cola that. I hate Pepsi. God, isn't she just the worst person ever?

[Ronnie Karam]

Bo, have you ever heard someone just call you incessantly saying things like do the do. Really horrible person.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sometimes if you can't trust someone's soft drink tastes, can you really trust them at all? Am I right, Bos? Be on my team.

[Ronnie Karam]

So.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now we see. This is hilarious. Hilarious because Dorit's like, yeah, Kyle keeps out and changing her mind on what she's mad at and they go grievance number one. And Kyle's like, first of all being asked about my marriage on camera when we are such good friends. And it's like grievance number two when you said that like Kathy, like, I think Kathy just wants some support. To me it just feels like you, like, want to be on the side of whichever the audience like thinks and agrees with.

[Ronnie Karam]

And now she's bringing up bravoken. When I joked who was my favorite sister. And then we see that thing, Grievance three. And then she's like, it just feels like she's grasping at straws. Just like PK when he sees a bottle of Belvedere sitting on a countertop. Severe. Severe.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just wish he could have learned about PepsiCo so much earlier. So Boz is like, at least his.

[Ronnie Karam]

Diabetes would have been more delicious.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, well, what happens? What happens now? Are you going to pivot? Are you going to be the pivot? Will you be a badass pivot? Because at the party, what I saw she was. When I saw her, she just stomped on off. And Dorit's like, well, yes. I think that she came into this conversation thinking, I can always do what I do with Dorit, which is make her feel bad for me, and then she'll get over it. And I said, gee, I'm not going to do that anymore.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we see a clip of Kyle being like, I think that right now I'm really dealing with, like, a lack of trust and, like, the fact that she lacks accountability or self awareness. Like, I mean, she's just oblivious to anyone's feelings but her own. And she tells us, you don't get to just say how hurt you were and then that you felt pushed away. You made that bed, and now you gotta lie in it. Sutton's like, oh, okay. So then we cut back to Dorit, Erica on Bose. And Dorit's like, oh, the bed. What.

[Ben Mandelker]

What bed did Dorit make? What bed did Dorit make? I'd like to know. What's the. What's the bed? I just would like Kyle to tell us about the bed before Dorit lies in it, because I don't see the bed. I don't see the bed here.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't see the bed. She keeps trying to. She keeps trying to make my case for the bed, but there's no bed. There's no bed. You're just foolish.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's no bed. There's no bed.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, yeah. Just to say, I don't like you anymore. You're stupid now you're ugly now. You're gross. Stop sitting at my table. Go to the other table. Go. Don't eat at the other table.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly. So Dorit's like, but I feel like over the last few years, there's always been this set of two rules. A set of rules for you and rules for everyone else. Or a set of rules for you and a set of rules for me. Or, like, there'll be a Set of rules for Kyle and then set of rules for someone else. Like, yes, Tariq, we get it. We understand what two rules are. Wait, can I just give one more example? A set of rules for Kyle and then a set of rules for other individuals. Yes, that's the same thing. Thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Erica, who's, like, peaceful Erica this time, who's never done anything to anybody, it's like, well, I see where the ball's coming from. You got that one. It's too skinny, and that one's too skinny. He's got way too much money, and they've been going through real bad stuff at home. And Bosa's like, yes, yes, you've got it. You're talking to me. And next, let me tell you this. Are you your own hero in your own story? Be a badass. Did I say that in enough individual syllables for everyone here to understand that? Eat the gold, poop the gold, you're a badass. But, Kyle, let me tell you. What a bitch.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, Carol and Dorit, they're both going through separations, and they're at each other's throats while PK and Mo are having the best time of their lives. Well, we're here finding Encino. Okay, how does this even happen? I'm like, well, they're not on a reality show, so Erica is. She's like, so. By the way, Dorit, how's everything going with your husband? Oh, you mean the severe alcoholic? Well, you know, it's been a very few tumultuous years. I'm not gonna lie. I'm getting choked up just thinking about it. And you're on mute, darling. You're on mute. You're on mute.

[Ronnie Karam]

His alcoholism is so serious, it. It chokes me up, even, you know? And so Boza's like, well, how are you with your kids right now? And let me ask you this. Your kids? Yes. Are they badass kids? Well, I suppose so. Good. I'll listen to their problems. Go ahead and tell me. And she's like, well, they think daddy's working because he's staying in a hotel because of work. And Boz is like, oh, so difficult because you have to keep up the pretense. Which hotel is it? Marriott. I can get you connected, because guess who came up with the extra T at the end of that logo. Her name is Buzz.

[Ben Mandelker]

Guess who invented hotel rooms.

[Ronnie Karam]

Me.

[Ben Mandelker]

I invented that. Before that, they were just big, open spaces that you just. Everyone would lie down. And I said, put up the walls.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Darius, like, you know what? Because of the last few years. I mean, pk he was drinking. Drinking just so much. And then when we'd fight, he would take off, and he'd be gone for weeks. So I've been telling the kids, that's just what we're used to, to be honest, so their lives are not really disrupted that much. You know, they wake up and they say, where's the big old blob of jelly that's normally here yelling at you in the morning? And I say, he's on another piece of toast, right? He's on London toast today. Let's concentrate on something else now. Here's your nanny. Learn your tie. I'll be in bed.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, I'm sorry that the weed had to suffer like that in silence. Not that D's ever really been that silent. She just talks a lot. But anyway, I understand not telling anyone anything like that, you know, what are you gonna say? I told you guys everything was great, when in fact, he's not here? I mean, right, everyone? Am I right? Can we get some of that gold dust just in a little baggie? Just. Just. Just a little bit.

[Ronnie Karam]

Still going on and on. She's like, well. And then Jaguar asked me, but where is Daddy, Mommy? And I said, oh, Jaguar, be your namesake and get some drive already. Stop asking. And Boza's like, okay, well, is there a chance for reconciliation or something? She's like, well, I suppose there's always that possibility, isn't there? You know, his. Let me tell you, it will have to be a little bit less severe. Alcoholism. Terrible, terrible stuff.

[Ben Mandelker]

Now, we go to Son's house, and Avi is in there, and he's like. He's futzing around, but he's got. He's like, microwaving sauces or whatever. And Son's like, avi, what are you doing right now? And he's like, well, I'm defrosting the sauce because they were frozen for your pizza party. And she's. And so basically, they're setting up a little pizza thing to go, because what we find out is that Sutton, Kathy, and Erica are going to go surprise Kyle with some pizza stuff. So Sutton is saying, you know, although Kyle and I have had our ups and downs over the years, I know that she needs me as a friend right now, and she knows that I need to be with her so I can feel superior to all the shit that she's going through. It's just such a great feeling for me. Anyway, so I'm gonna go surprise her.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm gonna go over to Kyle's house because she's probably alone, that big house. And I'm gonna bring her something she hates, which is carbs. And then we're gonna cook that in her kitchen and then leave her with the mess. It's gonna be so fun.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like, this is such.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is such a sudden frenemy move to do. Like, let's just bring three of her people. Three people over and then leave you. Bye. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crap ins commercial. Oh, man. The change over from summer to fall has been so lovely. I love fall clothes and it's so nice getting an upgrade from my regular old dusty hoodie to something brand new and stylish from Quint.

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[Ben Mandelker]

So Erica comes on over, says hi to the dogs and everything. And then she's like, what is that? She's like, oh, these are pizza kits. And what's pizza? It's something that people eat. I'm not familiar. Okay, well, I thought it was a nice gesture. And after I, you know, I talked to Kyle, she seemed a little down, which was hilarious. And you know, there's a story she told me. Do you want to hear this story? This is the, this is the feel good story of the year. Okay. All right. So there's this picture in the, in Mauricio's office. It was a picture of him and Kyle. And guess what? He replaced the picture of the two of them with the picture of the girl from Dancing with the Star. I mean, could you just die? It's hilarious.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Erica's like, what? She's like in the office, in their house. She goes, are you serious? Yes. Well, Kyle did the replacing first so Maurizio can have A picture of some lady in his office, I think. And Son's like, I mean, at that point, for me, I'm like, bye, bye, Mauricio. But I don't think Kyle did. And you know, she's still kind of hurt and still hopeful. Hurt and hopeful. The Kyle Richards story. Little tiny letters under. It's just saying, I've been through a lot in the past two years. Good one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Starring Michael Myers. Yeah. If Kyle's still thinking that her divorce is going to be like a genteel affair. While Mauricio is doing passive aggressive things like swapping out the photo of him and Kyle, a special photo that's always been up there with a picture of him and whatever his professional is on Dancing with the Stars. That is some passive aggressive. And Kyle is eluding herself if she thinks that this is going to be a civilized situation. That is the first flag. That's their first red flag that's going to go down.

[Ronnie Karam]

I think it's going to be civilized, you know, and I'm, you know, obviously I'm always wrong on couple stuff like this, like almost 100% of the time. Because when I meet people as a couple, I just figure they're going to be together forever. Like, if you ever broke up, I mean, I didn't meet you with Dom. I knew you before Dom. But you've been together so long that if you break up, I don't know that I can talk to you. Like, I'll feel so hurt that you broke up. Like, it hurts me when people break up. I just don't understand it. I think that people are always going to be together forever. And I'm always shocked when people actually get divorced. Like, even on, like Potomac. I didn't think Ashley would ever do it. I was like, she, deep down she really loves him and he loves her. And on this one, I don't think they're gonna do it. I really think that they still love each other and they're just doing some weird, I don't know, storyline thing that went out of control or I don't know, I don't think it's that big. Like, I don't think it's that big of a deal like Kyle, because Kyle really, you know, she does that thing where she insinuates the shit out of things to make other people look bad, but she's not really telling the truth. Like, we've seen what she's. I guess I shouldn't call her a liar because she hasn't really said anything. She's insinuated that Mauricio has done things, but we don't even know if Mauricio has cheated or not. I mean, the rumor from old Queen in the bar was, was that he got some DMs on the Instagram that she didn't like. And I think she ended up coming out with that later in the season. But I don't know what Mauricio did. Anyway, my point is I do think they still love each other and I don't think, I don't know that they'll necessarily get back together. I think they will. Part of me does, but I don't think it's going to get nasty.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know. I just.

[Ronnie Karam]

Not weird. I'm fighting in a positive way, but it's weird to feel.

[Ben Mandelker]

It is weird.

[Ronnie Karam]

I feel weird feeling that way, but that's my gut.

[Ben Mandelker]

I would not be surprised if they reconcile in a few years. It could, that could definitely happen, but.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't see that too.

[Ben Mandelker]

They do go down the divorce path. I, I can see it getting, I can see it's getting dark just because I've just seen too many couples who are always like, we're going to be really mature about this, we're going to be adults about this. And it, it just, it goes downhill really quickly. But you know, good, it's good that it's, it's relatively, relatively mature and civilized right now. Even though he's doing passive aggressive things with his picture frames. So Erica's like, I mean, why are you replacing the picture of your wife with your Dancing with the Stars partner? All that's going to do is make people talk more. And that doesn't help. It actually hurts. Then again, Tom had a picture of who he was underneath his desk and there she was. So who am I to judge, you know? And she just sips out of her soda like, I've been through it all, toots. I love, I love when she just leans into like, I love when she's in like diner waitress mode. Wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she really is like, hey, you been there, done that.

[Ben Mandelker]

You want a refill, hun?

[Ronnie Karam]

She totally is. Please let Erica, and I don't mean this in a mean way, but please let her just end up being a diner waitress one day. I would fucking love that to just go in and there's like bleach blonde Erica with her, you know, five dollar extensions kind of falling off into your po just being like, hey, what do you want today? As if we didn't already all know, oh, look who's back.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now we are at Kyle's house and Kyle calls Sophia on the phone and is basically asking, like, are you going to have dinner at home tonight? And Sophia is like, no, mom, gross. I'm going to go see a movie. And Kyle's like, I'm still adjusting to having a lot of a quieter home. I'm still not used to that. I just get, like, a little scared. Like, what if it's always like this? Well, don't worry, Kyle. You have 10 enormous sized dogs that are barking at all times running around that place for it to ever be truly quiet.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Erica and Kathy and Sutton are coming over, and it's wacky. How are they going to get through the gate? What are we going to do? And Kathy's like, I'm just saying, I'm going to be from Amazon. You know, she gets so much stuff from Amazon. I'll just say, you know. Oh, no, she didn't even say that. She said, I'm just saying, like, I'll just say, I got it. Olivia here for who delivers things.

[Ben Mandelker]

She goes like. She, like, does, like, gibberish on purpose. And then they're like, just joking about how, like, she has to get into character and everything. And she's like, no, I mean, look, look. I mean, like, okay, think about my outfit. Okay? Maybe being in a brown truck, you know, that's. Wait, no, that's ups. I was like, wow. I'm oddly impressed that Kathy knew that the brown truck was ups. I didn't even think she even saw the brown trucks. I think it's like when you have, like, you know, you go onto Safari and it can, like, block out ads. So that way you have, like, a cleaner interface. I think she just blocks out, like, workers and trucks.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Erica's like, all right, then get into character. What's your name gonna be? She's like, ma'am, which, you know, is her real name at home. And Erica's like, all right, we're done. She's not opening up. So she's like, I have a delivery from AM on.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then they pull up to Kyle's gate, and Kyle's in the kitchen. Portia's home. I guess the movie was. I guess it was a quick movie. So I thought por you. Oh, yeah, Fifi.

[Ronnie Karam]

That was Fifi.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're right. That makes much more expense. Sophia, who is. No, Alexia is engaged. Sophia is just at the movies. So Porsche, they're having a great conversation. Portia's like, sometimes I think cucumbers get slimy. Why is that? I'm like, please don't ask Kyle this. You're just. You're testing the limits of your mother's abilities right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kyle has been trying to make salmon for four years and has not done it right once. Please don't ask your mother. And Kyle's like, it means they've been in there too long, I think. And she goes, but why slimy? She goes, I don't know. I'm gonna need to think about that one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Portia trying to understand, like, the quintessential trying to understand the intrinsic elements of a cucumber. But why, if it's been in there so long, why does the path to choose. Why is the path slimy? Why not hard? Why slimy, Mom? It's like, I don't. I don't know.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's actually a decent question, you know, because cucumbers are, like, so water based. And, like, where does the slime come from, I don't really get. But I don't need to go down that path. We're on hour 10 of this recap. So then this is the wacky delivery scene. So the girls come up, and they're trying to get in the gate. And then Kyle, of course, the doorbell goes off, and Bedlam breaks loose in Kyle's house. There are dogs running around the house. There's chickens falling from the ceiling. There's angry birds being shot from one end of the house to another. Faye Resnick comes up from the basement. Like, did I hear something? I'm working on a closet down.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's someone swinging through on a rope. I mean, it is like, it. What is this? What happens every single time the package comes in? She has to wrangle every single one of her dogs because her dogs always go running out that gate. Every for years now, they've gone running out the gate. This cannot be normal. I feel like I go to people's houses, and their dogs do not run out gates. I mean, I don't actually. I don't know a lot of people who live in gated community, gated households, but I feel like I've gone to enough where that doesn't happen. Or what about, like, an electric collar? Is that inhumane? Do people not use those? I mean, I just understand why this is such a complicated thing to receive a package from Amazon.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it really is. So everybody's running around screaming and honking and beeping. Buildings are crumbling or the earth is opening. And finally, you know, of course, one of the dogs runs for the hills, because, you know, who wouldn't really. The Dog's like, please save me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Please, please.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then it turns out to be Kyle's friends. It's like, no, don't take me back.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, like, I thought I had a way out, actually. What's funny is that Kyle is spending so much time bringing the dogs in, and all this stuff, it's. It goes on, it's. I mean, it's all edited together, but it's clearly long enough that Kyle is like, oh, my God, I almost forgot about. I forgot about the Amazon guy. I'm like, how did you forget about the Amazon guy? That's why you're doing all this. And then she's like, he's probably gone by now. He's probably gone. Is he still there? Is he still there? So, by the way, everyone, one and next time you have an Amazon delivery and it says, like, supposed to arrive between 10am and 2pm and it shows up at like 6:30, it's because of Kyle Richards. Because these Amazon drivers are sitting there waiting for idiots like Kyle to wrangle a farmstead of animals. And, like, rather than just have a simple, like just opening the gate, she could just walk to the gate, take the package and close the gate again.

[Ronnie Karam]

Can't have it that easy. So then it's wacky. The gate opens, and guess who it is. It's Wacky Kathy Aranson. Gluten. So they come in and she's like, oh, my God, you guys, that's so sweet. You're doing a pizza night for me. Gluten. Yay. Thank you so much. I'm going through such a difficult night right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, by the way, I'm just scrolling through the notes and, like, just as an example of how much craziness and how much time it took for Kyle to get this situation ordered, it was like a page of notes of Kyle going through the house trying to clean things up before the scene goes. It's wild.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's two full pages.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's wild.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Portia goes upstairs and then they talk about PJs and, like, how amazing this is. And they joke about making the pizza. And we see them making the pizza and all that good stuff. And Garcelle's not here because she's in Atlanta shooting two movies. And then we see a flashback of Sutton facetiming Garcelle. And Garcelle's like, oh, Black Girl's Missing. The second installment. It's been so good. I mean, it's completely different. This one. For the title, we're calling it Black Girl Missing. Super Missing. Like, really missing. Like, where the is she? It's a little long for a poster, but we're working on it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sutton's like, you already lost one black girl. What kind of mother are you? She's like, girl, I swear to God, you are going to be missing soon.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they're talking about being excited to see her later. And then Kathy's like, well, I saw a picture of Mauricio. What? Fuck, Lee. What the hell happened to him? He aged. And I was like, I don't like that. I don't like you talking about him like that. And she's like, I think she's referring to his Instagram stories where he's in the gym. And I just don't like that. I don't like that. It doesn't make me feel good, Kathy. And Kathy's like, oh, I thought it would makes me feel good. Kathy's like, he's fucked now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, also, like, I think Kathy thought she going to giving Kyle a big compliment because she's like, kyle, you could be his daughter now. And, like, because that's always been Kyle's goal is to basically be like a peer with her daughters. But now. Now she's like, wait a second. Not that I hear that articulated. It's really creepy. Stop it, Kathy. It's like, well, well, we saw him working out on Instagram, you know, and basically Kyle is. Kyle's saying how she just really does not like how Mauricio is putting up thirst traps on Instagram at the gym. It makes her really upset.

[Ronnie Karam]

But Kyle does the same thing. You know, she was doing the same thing at the same time. They were doing the typical divorce thing where they're like, oh, my God, look at my divorce body. And Kathy's like, yeah, but look at your face. You know? So, I mean, listen, I think that she's being a good sister. I know Kyle doesn't like it, but this is what good sisters do, you know? This is what I do for my sister. I'm like, your ex can die in a fire. Do you want me to. Do you want me to set it? I'll do it. Do you want. She's like, no, Ronnie, don't. I'm like, do you want to ruin his life? Do you want to come with fake names and go give him Yelp reviews? She's like, no, Ronnie, that's what you do. You ride at dawn. Your sister.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's right. So Kathy says, you know, over the years, we've had our ups and downs with Mo. You know, I'd heard from A lot of people that he was talking a lot about Hilton and Highland and Rick on his show. We don't discuss him. I would say the only advice I could give would be just to move on. I was like, oh, that is so cold. It was like both a. I don't watch his show. Like, and she sort of says in this way, like, his little show, which has now been canceled, by the way. And then she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not. He's not on our radar at all. Which, by the way, we know that they talk about him, but I just love the way she just dismisses Mauricio. It's so cold.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And, you know, because this is Kathy's big, like, told you so moment, too, because she. She's hated his ass for years. So this is. It's got to suck for Kyle because she's going through this with Mo, but she also has to, like, deal with K with her sister, like, gloating, you know? So Sutton's like, well, I think going forward, you might need a poker face, at least for me, you know, I had a husband that was really, really powerful, and I was like a deer in the headlines. I was like, you last night when Tariq was yelling at you and calling you a bad person. That was fun. That was fun. But, yeah, Kyle. And then it turns into everybody else unloading their own divorce trauma on top of Kyle. Which that's not really helpful, where everybody's like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I totally got fucked over my mind. Get ready, Kyle. Gird your loins. You're about to get dressed from one end of a parking lot to another car.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, we only have the utmost respect for each other, even through this process. He sent me flowers on Mother's Day. Which is so funny, because when they were married, Kyle was like, yeah, we're kind of the best couple on Bravo right now. And now she's doing the whole, yeah, we're kind of the best divorces on Bravo right now. She's always going to try to be like that. So son's like, yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And everybody's jealousy of it, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, well, I used to get flowers for a long time, Kyle. I haven't gotten flowers in a year now. But you know what they say. I can buy my own flowers, watch, go to my own Oscar parties. Is that the lyric? Because that's. That was my experience. Anyway, go on.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Erica's like, you don't like flowers, girl? You got a monthly payment. Relax. And she's like, that ain't nothing. Okay? And she goes, oh, it means something. She's like, it means something. At least as somebody who gets nothing, at least you walk out with something, boy. So I got a few gay guys thrown in jail. Big deal. I mean, it was fun while it lasted, but still, I deserved more.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, so many people are just used to seeing and hearing about nasty divorces, fighting over custody and money. It's just the norm. I don't think our marriage was maybe the norm. I don't think our family and what we have and what we built was necessarily the norm. Maybe that's pompous of me. I don't know. Maybe we're a little different. I don't know. Some might say better. Who knows? We're kind of like n little yellow different. Better. Except we're maybe not yellow, but anyway, we're just better. What were we talking about again? You're on mute. You're on mute. You're on mute. You're on mute.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, God damn it. I'm so sorry. I'm sitting here with my finger on the mute button, and I just keep.

[Ben Mandelker]

Forgetting to say it. I'm like, don't leave me hacking with a new pringer.

[Ronnie Karam]

I jumped in right on time, I promise you. So everybody. Everybody leaves, and Sutton's on her way out, and she's like, okay, that picture in the. In the office. That feel weird? And she's like, it does feel weird that my picture was taken down. She goes, yeah, well, there's that. Okay, on that note, good night, sweet dreams. You're losing everything. Have fun burning. Okay. Have fun while Rome burns down. And Randy Caesar.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Et tu, Brutus? I know. I know all the lines. Have fun. Kyle. Kyle.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we see Kyle closing the office door while inspiring Trixie Monocle Music plays I would never do that to you. I would never make you cry like that. Baby, I can see right through you. I wouldn't do that.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're probably on tour. Posters like, who are we kidding? Be quiet. So then PK pulls up to a restaurant and announce a big to reach PK scene. It's a what?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a Bravo restaurant. Olivetta, owned and operated by Marissa Hermer of ladies.

[Ronnie Karam]

Why don't they have her on here? She just went through a juicy divorce in Beverly Hills.

[Ben Mandelker]

She actually. I'm. I'm. I'm actually. That's a great point. I'm actually a little surprised that they have not tried to recruit Marissa, since she does already have a track record, but she never was, like, the most Interesting person on Ladies of London. She's like, hi, I'm Marissa. We have a restaurant notice.

[Ronnie Karam]

She gets terribly off by things, and sometimes that's all you need, you know, somebody to be like, I'm so offended.

[Ben Mandelker]

They should just quietly resurrect all the ladies of London on different Real Housewives.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Next up, like, Caprice shows up on Potomac.

[Ronnie Karam]

For some reason not working out so well, unfortunately. So Dorit and PK's big scene, and they've just announced their separation, but they have not seen each other since because PK went straight to a hotel. So here we go. So PK's like, I'll have some non alcoholic beer then, and I'll also have some bread and some shoestring fries. Well, yeah, just do that. Bread, shoestrings, shoestring fries and a sandwich in a glass, please. That'd be fantastic. And he's all skinny, by the way, which makes it even funnier. Yeah, PK ordering like, PK not as.

[Ben Mandelker]

Skinny as that lithe waiter who kept on doing different poses next to their table. First he's, like, coquettish, and then he, like, goes behind their banquette, and it's like he's like, talk to them from over his back and he, like, swoops over with his arm. That waiter was mugging for the camera so hard. It was hilarious.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then. Yeah, so Dorit comes in and she's like, where'd pk? Oh, no, she's just telling us. There's so much to discuss. I thought it was best for us to have dinner, have a nice meal, relax, start figuring out together how to navigate the new situation of severe alcoholism.

[Ben Mandelker]

How are you, pk? He's like, I'm all right. How about you? It's like, yeah, I'm okay. It's like, well, I'm gonna go for. Oh, I'm gonna get some Maggie beef, in case anyone cares. Okay. Anyway, let's go on. Be up past the ordering. Hey, do you like this outfit I'm wearing? Look, I'm gonna stand up right now. Single pk. Oh, oh, Single pk. And Dorit clearly does not like this phrase, actually. And also, you know who else doesn't like this phrase?

[Ronnie Karam]

Hurtful. That is to call himself single PK right in front of me. What a severe alcoholic. By the way, can I have a Belvedere? You don't mind if I drink, do you, Pique? I'll have a Belvedere soda with three lemons. Squeeze and then. Wait for it. Wait for it. Why are you posing like that. Why are you bent over backwards? Stand up straight. I'm trying to give you an O. His ankle's behind his head. Get it down, waiter man. And right this. Three lemons squeezed in. And then.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bring one extra straw just to taunt him a little bit.

[Ronnie Karam]

Let's just bring one extra straw and make a placemat for it so we can call it Go Wait. Go Wait.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know if PK realizes that saying single PK is as hurtful as it is or as alarming as it is for anyone who's also single. Last thing they need to hear is that PK is single and on the market.

[Ronnie Karam]

So hide your children, hide your remote controls, hide your lays.

[Ben Mandelker]

So he's like, look at here. I'm sitting here eating. And she's like, I know. It's what our marriage has often been about. He's like, well, I'm kind of skinny for me at the moment. Not if you keep eating like that, pk.

[Ronnie Karam]

So he's like, I'm edgy. I'm edgy right now, right? I didn't know how bad I had this disease, you know, drinking. I mean, drinking. It's a symptom, right? It's not the cause. You're the cause, actually, you know, drinking is medication. The disease is dorit. Right? But, you know, I'm very clear that we've made our decision. We've done what we've done. I'm really clear on it. You know, you're my best friend. You're my wife. We don't speak to each other nicely. You know, I get it. If the server comes with my wagyu be, tell him he's made a mistake. Demand a chocolate cake and a free tab. All right? Do you understand? Will you do that or not? Are you my wife or are you not my wife? Are you a disease or not? You're both. Get me a chocolate cake to test.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, you're. You're my best friend, and you're my wife, and yet we don't speak to each other nicely. If the server came over, we spoke to server. How we speak to each other, we'd be thrown out of this restaurant for being so boring. Okay? You know. You know, late. It's like, I don't. I feel like we don't even like each other. I don't question the love, but we stop liking each other. I'm like, maybe she stopped liking you because you're monologuing about their relationship, and you're just trying to have a pleasant evening and dorit's like, wait, do you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Feel like you don't like me? He's like, well, when you talk to me a certain way, I mean, you make me feel a certain way. No, I don't like you. And she goes, that's not what I have to gain. Well, there are times where I don't like you. Correct. I don't ever want to not like you. It's like, well, this is something where. Again, I just don't understand pk. I'm going to put the word a T at the end of understand so you really understand it. I don't understand. Am I on mute? I'm sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because you're doing. No, you're just doing this whole monologue. But behind you, there's been a grand reveal.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, shit. Really?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, let's take a look. The painter took down the paper and it was like. You're like you're doing a whole thing. And he's like, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Oh, here comes number two.

[Ronnie Karam]

And look at comes. I'm going to put us on a wider screen so people can see. Okay, where's the wider screen? Ben, could you put it on the wider side?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's in the lower right hand. Oh, yeah, I'll do it. I'll do it. It went missing for a moment.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I'll fix it.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's actually completely gone. Where did it go?

[Ronnie Karam]

Where did it go?

[Ben Mandelker]

Where's our little special widescreen view? Where is our special widescreen? I will set this up. I know how to f. It's okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

I just wanted people to see that these curtains are actually working now. So. Good. Okay, the curtains work. I was like, these curtains are not going to work in here. But now that the. Now that you can see the view, they work. They work pretty well. Very nice.

[Ben Mandelker]

Look. Okay, look, there we go.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, there we go.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ladies and gentlemen.

[Ronnie Karam]

You'Re the CEO of Taking Up Flat. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's all coming down right now. And while we get a nice wider view of your room, we get a nice wider view of my childhood room. You're welcome, everyone.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're welcome. Love it.

[Ben Mandelker]

The air conditioner bonnet.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, so Dorit's like, I just don't understand pk. I don't understand. And he's like, well, I think I've made the biggest change that you wanted and you wanted your biggest, biggest ass was for me to stop drinking and stop eating mayonnaise after the jar. And I've done one of those things, so I've at least done 50% of the things that you wanted. Well. And you don't think that I've made any changes? I've got a different hair color. Picky. Do you think this is easy? Brunettes don't have fun.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I don't think you made any changes to discussions and arguments. I think you went very low quickly. I think you knew my touch points. Like pointing out the fact fact that I hired Berlin for a Pretty woman party. Okay, I understand. That's different. But sometimes you can only get what you can get. Sorry. Roxette was booked. You had no problem. You had no problem if you were annoyed in going deep like that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, the progression in Marn and PK's fighting, and this is where it really became too toxic, was that it went just from screaming at each other to not using profanity to then cursing at one another to actually having digs below the belt. Oh, I hope you rot in hell. Oh, I hope. What are you doing? Digs.

[Ben Mandelker]

Little digs. Little digs. Digs.

[Ronnie Karam]

Almost bully.

[Ben Mandelker]

Digs.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's almost booty. And I hope you rot in hell. I hope you're done alone for the rest of your life. You're gonna drown your own fupa. You're gonna drown in your own fupa if you stand on your head for too long. You know, things like that. You pasty motherfucker. I hope you dined the biscuit can you were born from. You know, stuff like that. Just fun little digs.

[Ben Mandelker]

The sort of things that a severe alcoholic would say, which he is so dorit's like. You know, pk, when you get into a mood or you're angry or you get your hands stuck in a combos bag, you can't really snap out of it. Well, babe, I think. I think we've got deep rooted resentments that have been built up as a result of what life has thrown at us. Including new flavors from combos. It happens. So then the waiter like comes and drops.

[Ronnie Karam]

Getting your stuck hand. Your hand stuck.

[Ben Mandelker]

The back of combo happens. Don't judge me. That's why I got clear. You know, I was drunk. Couldn't figure out which was the exit.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I used to be your number one. And what I want from our marriage is even above the kids. You know, in a real marriage, spouses come first, right? I mean, lose you walking around with those little things. I mean, they can barely talk to eat. They can't even drive yet. Why are you talking to them? They're all children, pk. They're disgusting. All right? Little mooches. They don't have a job. You know, I have. My credit's terrible because of those little farts. All right. Doing with them.

[Ben Mandelker]

Is that true that in a, In a marriage, when you have kids, the spouse comes before the kids? Is that true? I thought the kids were. It is.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, that's what my parents told me. I mean, me and my mom used to get into it all the time, and my dad was like, I'm always going to choose your mother. I said, but you can see what's going on here, you know? And he's like, well, but I'm always going to choose. He said, it doesn't matter. She's my wife. She comes before you. And in the Bible, you choose your. You choose your spouse over your kids. Your kids are secondary because without the spouse, supposedly, you can't raise a good child. At least that's in the.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, I mean, I get.

[Ronnie Karam]

True. But I mean, in religion, I, I.

[Ben Mandelker]

I get backing up your spouse and being like a, like, united front. Front, like with. With your kid against your kid and stuff. But, like, I don't know if it. Does it really also mean, like, babe, I can't believe you're staying home to take care of our child when we could be going out to a bar.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm going to party. Do you know how many openings you've missed? You know, I had to sit down and watch Wicked alone, Babe.

[Ben Mandelker]

Susan Boyle's playing the West End, and we're skipping that so that we can watch Jagger learn how to do math. I don't think we need to do that, babe. You're choosing our child over me, Babe.

[Ronnie Karam]

But it was Singapore math. I didn't want him to be Singapore. You know, you wanted to go see a poor singer. I wanted to deal with Singapore math. Come on, there's no contest. So he's like, well, you know, I wanted. You made me feel less than. You made me feel less than. So many times. So many times I've told you this. It's like. Well, I've never heard it. Pk. Not like you just said pk. I mean, you said this and that. I wish you were Kyle. You know, jaguar smells like pickles, even though you're the one with the pickle face. You've said emasculate. I've heard I'm a man. I've heard I'm angry, but I've never heard this right here. This openness you just gave me. You're more open than the jar of mayonnaise that you were slurping out of when I arrived here. Don't think I didn't see it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I appreciate it, pk. You are sort of like that jar of mayonnaise. It's almost like the slogan says, bring out the Hellmans and bring out the best. But I have to say, I never really heard. I've heard you say these things before, but I never really heard it this way. I think part of it is that when you're speaking to me tonight, I'm not getting a constant spray of better cheddars on my face so I can really focus on the words. That helps. That helps.

[Ronnie Karam]

So it's like, look, your family. You're the mother of my kids, yada, yada. It's going to be fine. Please don't get mad at me because you're not getting half of shit. I don't have anything, as you know. So are we done here? And she's like, well, we're already talking five times a day. He's like, well, we're not going to. We're not going to talk five times today. And she's like, oh, I don't understand. I don't. Give me a tea. Waiter, bring me a tea to put at the end of understand. So I really hit this one home. Okay. I don't understand.

[Ben Mandelker]

That codependency that we have has got to take a break. I'm replacing it with Maurizio, but we.

[Ronnie Karam]

Need to remain committed. He's like, no, that's what divorce is. We are no longer committed. She's like, wait a minute.

[Ben Mandelker]

I want. I want to give you space to break the codependency, because I've already broken it. I'm already codependent on new people. Now she's like, drowning yourself.

[Ronnie Karam]

I will not. Grace is over. Grace is over.

[Ben Mandelker]

Please don't yell. In Marissa Herman's restaurant. She's a sophisticated lady.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm very annoyed. And also, I just wanted to stop by and say I hope you're enjoying your dinner. Also, I love hot dogs. Okay, carry on.

[Ben Mandelker]

That was pretty much her personality. So Dorit is like. Well, I guess because we've been talking and I guess since we've been talking and things have been so friendly, I thought we could navigate this together. But then I remember the last time PK tried to navigate, he got a dui. So who else to be Alcoholic.

[Ronnie Karam]

No more navigating here. Well, that brings us to the end of Beverly Hills. What a wackadoo, chaotic time I had. Recording it and watching it. Super fun. What a great time, guys. We're so thankful for you. Really thank you for everything you do for us. Thanks for letting us do this with our lives. I mean we are a couple of.

[Ben Mandelker]

Blessed little dirty thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's for damn sure.

[Ben Mandelker]

We sure are sorry that for crap is on demand. Sorry again that my lips are out of sync with my. With my voice but you know, it's just what happens. And we are going to have a Salt Lake City recap fresh and ready for you for Thanksgiving.

[Ronnie Karam]

Two parter baby. Another two parter coming up.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a doozy and it's a little.

[Ronnie Karam]

And apologize to all right everyone stuck in the family car listening to this bullshit. But we love you too suckers. Bye everybody. Talk to you next time.

[Ben Mandelker]

I apologize for nothing.

[Ronnie Karam]

Bye Bye.

[Ben Mandelker]

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