#2645 RHOSLC S5E12: I Like Big Bat Mitzvahs and I Cannot Lie

Summary

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Episode: #2645 RHOSLC S5E12: I Like Big Bat Mitzvahs and I Cannot Lie
Release Date: December 5, 2024
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Platform: Wondery

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Introduction

In episode #2645 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the twelfth episode of Season 5 of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC), titled "I Like Big Bat Mitzvahs and I Cannot Lie." The episode centers around Meredith's Bat Mitzvah, providing a focused event that sets the stage for intense drama and character interactions.

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Overview of Meredith's Bat Mitzvah

The episode under review revolves entirely around Meredith Marks' Bat Mitzvah, transforming the typical housewives' drama into a family-centered and religious ceremony. Ben expresses excitement about episodes focusing on a single event, mentioning the previous Bezos party episode as a benchmark. He remarks, "This episode just had it all. Like it was, there were touching moments... and hilarious fighting at the end" (Ben Mandelker, 04:24).

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Key Scenes and Character Dynamics

Preparation and Family Interactions

• Meredith's Commitment: Meredith is portrayed as dedicated to her faith, practicing her Hebrew blessings in a bathtub. Ronnie humorously critiques the exaggerated portrayal, saying, "She’s really committed to both Hebrew and her bubble bath" (Ronnie Caron, 05:33).

• Family Yarmulkes: The family photo segment showcases custom yarmulkes, with Seth opting for a pink one to show support, which Ronnie jokes signifies "leaning in a little too hard" (Ben Mandelker, 07:10).

Arrival of Friends and Tensions Rise

• Heather and Georgia's Entrance: Heather arrives in a perplexing outfit, prompting Ronnie to describe it as "a flapper dress on one part, but then a muumu over the flapper dress" (Ronnie Caron, 09:21). Ben shares his own experience with Bat Mitzvahs, contrasting the modest setups he grew up with against the ostentatious events depicted in Salt Lake City.

• Introducing Bronwyn: Bronwyn’s interactions quickly escalate tensions. Ronnie highlights Bronwyn's manipulative nature, stating, "She's loyal to nobody" and "throwing people under the bus" (Ronnie Caron, 16:01).

The Confrontation at the Bat Mitzvah

• Accusations Fly: A significant conflict arises when Angie accuses Britney of having a high "body count hair," leading to a heated exchange. Ben notes, "Angie totally falls into the pit by the end of this episode" (Ben Mandelker, 16:36).

• Meredith's Reconciliation Efforts: Meredith attempts to mediate, reflecting on the importance of the ceremony. However, tensions remain high as Bronwyn betrays friendships, leading to rapid turns in alliances.

• Mary's Entrance: Mary’s struggle to enter the Bat Mitzvah adds comedic relief. Ben describes it as "one of the funniest psychs I've ever had on this show," highlighting Mary's confusion with the venue’s layout (Ben Mandelker, 33:58).

Climactic Arguments

• Angie vs. Bronwyn: The confrontation between Angie and Bronwyn reaches a peak when Angie demands an apology for being told to "shut the fuck up." Ronnie emphasizes the destruction of their alliance, saying, "Every episode is gonna be Bronwyn just making someone apologize" (Ronnie Caron, 41:13).

• Britney's Fallout: Britney is further shamed by Angie’s comments about her dating multiple men, leading to her emotional departure from the ceremony. Ben recaps, "Britney's like, I've never been slut shamed like that before" (Ben Mandelker, 60:00).

• Meredith’s Ultimatum: Frustrated by the ongoing drama, Meredith demands Angie to leave, culminating in her crying out, "You need to go" (Ben Mandelker, 64:37).

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Hosts' Analysis and Commentary

• Ben’s Perspective: Ben consistently highlights the rapid escalation of conflicts and the unsustainable nature of Bronwyn's actions, suggesting that her behavior might backfire in future episodes. He reflects on his personal experiences with religious ceremonies, adding depth to his analysis of Meredith's Bat Mitzvah setup.

• Ronnie’s Insights: Ronnie focuses on character motivations and dynamics, particularly Bronwyn’s manipulative tactics and Angie’s inability to handle confrontations gracefully. She provides a humorous take on the absurdity of certain character reactions, making the discussion engaging and relatable.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Ben: "This episode was so good... just perfection" (Ben Mandelker, 04:24).
  • Ronnie: "I'm really terrifying. Cause I'm screaming, I'm gonna" (Ronnie Caron, 06:40).
  • Ben: "There's a pecking order here, and I'm gonna need you and Angie to be friends" (Ben Mandelker, 42:36).
  • Ronnie: "Bronwyn doesn't know what's coming for her. She's with every single person on this cast." (Ronnie Caron, 45:59).

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Conclusion

Episode #2645 of Watch What Crappens offers a thorough and entertaining breakdown of a particularly dramatic episode of RHOSLC. Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam provide insightful commentary on the characters' interactions, the significance of Meredith's Bat Mitzvah, and the ensuing conflicts that drive the show's narrative forward. Their ability to blend humor with critical analysis makes the summary both engaging and informative for listeners and newcomers alike.

The hosts conclude by expressing their appreciation for the episode, noting its alignment with their own experiences and the heightened drama that keeps viewers hooked. They also promote their upcoming North American tour, inviting listeners to join them for more such recaps and discussions.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Caron]

Hello Ben.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hello. Hello. We are here today to talk about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, a tremendous episode featuring Meredith's Bat Mitzvah. The entire episode took place there, which means that you know it's a good episode. Before we dive into that. In case you didn't in case you didn't hear it earlier this week, in case you missed it, tickets have just gone on sale for the Mounting Hysteria tour. That's our 2025 North American tour. We are coming to a city near you. We are so, so excited to be going back out on the road for the first time in two years in North America. And real quickly, let me tell you about the cities we're going to and hopefully you'll be able to visit us at one of them. We are starting in San Francisco, then San Diego, New York City for the golden crappies on February 1st. Salt Lake City, Hello, Salt Lake City. Denver, Cincinnati, Minneapolis, Toronto, Charlotte, Atlanta, D.C. philadelphia, Boston, Detroit, Chicago, Austin and Dallas. And then hopefully that's all that we have right now. Hopefully we'll be able to add in a few more cities too, but we didn't want to hold up the announcement before we got some of that finalized. Also, we still do not have ticket links available for Austin, Dallas and Charlotte, but we will get those up on our website as soon as possible. All other ticket links though [e-mail] hope to see you very soon. Okay.

[Ronnie Caron]

Okay. Also, we just did a two part bonus episode on Patreon, a covering sold on slc, which is the show that premiered right after this. It was a fun, nice, long recap. So go check that out on Patreon. And it's also where you get videos, which is what we're on right now. Okay. And if you don't want to pay, that's okay. You can get all the videos anyway a week later over on our YouTube. And that's also where we stream Crappy Hour live every other Monday. Okay, so let's get going with this Bat Mitzvah. Baddy mitzvah. What a baddie Bat mitzvah, am I right? I mean, just crazy town.

[Ben Mandelker]

This episode was so good. I was like, I always get excited anytime there's an episode that takes place at one event. We had that with the Bezos party to start off the season, but here we had it. And this, this episode just had it all. Like it was, there was touching moments. It was very lovely. The Bat Mitzvah was, was beautifully shot and everything. And then you just had like hilarious, hilarious fighting at the end. I mean, when Angie said that Britney had high body count hair, I mean, I just like nearly fell out of bed. It was just, just perfection.

[Ronnie Caron]

So let's open up. Rabbi Ruth comes in and I didn't understand that it was like that where you like have, I mean, I guess Meredith gets it separate, right? She, like, she doesn't have to go to Hebrew school with all the kids. I really would have appreciated her having to go to Hebrew school with all the kids. I would have liked her to be like, oh, really, Megan, you're going to baru hat before me? Listen here. I invented baths.

[Ben Mandelker]

So I mean, it would have been like that Adam Sandler movie where he has to go back to school in order to like receive his inheritance or something. Meredith Marks being like with like second graders at school after school.

[Ronnie Caron]

I'm sorry, I forgot to bring my lunch today, but I did bring my filter. So just holding up like a piece of wax paper in front of her face. Hello. Hello, Priscilla. We are the Same age.

[Ben Mandelker]

In preparation for my Bat Mitzvah. I have been working really hard on learning the Hebrew and blessings for the Torah portion. And we see Meredith just like in her bubble bath, practicing, practicing like her Haftorah in the bubble bath. Because she's really committed to both Hebrew and her bubble bath.

[Ronnie Caron]

She's also committed to those eyebrows, whatever the hell she's doing in that bathtub. I don't know who this was in the bathtub. I don't even think it was Meredith. It was somebody else. You could tell by the eyebrows because those eyebrows were micro bladed, sharpied on. I don't see how they came off because we don't see them in the rest of the episode. But for this scene, they were really, really thick. They were like baby arms. And she was like, you know, caviar sign, caviar set, caviar sign. Chloe's was like, mom, I'm just like so proud of you. Goddamn icon.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're like, so good. I'm like, so proud of you. I'm like so impressed. So good.

[Ronnie Caron]

You're on my Spotify wrapped.

[Ben Mandelker]

Meredith then tells us, this is a very special time for me. You know, most people do this when they're very young. And this is something I decided to do as an adult to affirm my faith, to affirm my spirituality, and to affirm my toddler who's gonna make the first ever baby made challah for the occasion.

[Ronnie Caron]

I was like, I'm really terrifying. Cause I'm screaming, I'm gonna. She's doing that, like, little girl talking through this whole episode where she's like, it's just me having a Batman. So weird. So she's like, I think I'm ready, Ruth. And Ruth is like, it's going to be beautiful. Meredith was going to just be beautiful. I wore my red glasses today, so you've got nothing to worry about.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Meredith goes outside to do family photos with Seth and Brooks and Chloe and the other one. And they all have their. They have these custom yama. I mean, custom yamakas is. That's pretty standard when it comes to, you know, bar mitzvahs. But they all say like, Meredith marks on it. But they are all, they're all wearing like black ones. And Seth is going to wear a pink one because he's like, he's kind of like leaning in actually now maybe a little too hard. Like, I'm an ally to my son. It's like, okay, we get it, we get it. So Brooks is like, dad, could you like change Your yarmulke to a different color because it's, like, really ruining the vibe. Yarmulke is ruined. Vibe.

[Ronnie Caron]

I cannot believe you called the other son the other one. His name is Reed, and he's hot. So can we not other the other one? He's very private.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love him private.

[Ronnie Caron]

Can we just look him up and read every detail about his on the air? Because he's so private. It's so hot. Let's just add him about everything, guys. Reed likes T Bones. The stakes. I read about it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Very, very excited for Reed. Reed is like the third Manning brother. So Meredith is doing a photo, and she's like, I feel so fortunate because my family is here today to celebrate. My mother's here, my sister's here, my. My oldest son Reed came in. He lives in New York. He's very private, as Ronnie just noticed. And we're all going to put our hand on a lemon later today and slice it into three parts. It's going to be an exciting moment.

[Ronnie Caron]

All of my family is here. A bean salad came. It's a huge thing for just me, young Meredith, Max. So then we see the bat mitzvah set up and Heather and Georgia arrive. Heather's wearing some weird, like, loose flapper dress. Like, flapper caft. It looks like a flapper dress on one part, but then a muumu over the flapper dress. But it's also. I'm not really sure what she's doing. I'm just gonna chalk this up to she doesn't know yet. Like, she hasn't figured it out yet, you know, because, like, when you change sizes, it takes a minute. And maybe she's just figuring this one out. I don't know. Needs help. A belt? I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, she says, growing up in Denver, we had a pretty big Jewish community, and I went to a lot of bat mitzvahs. It was, like, the only place I could go without a bale and I wouldn't be judged. And it was like the time in my life, you know, where you just get dressed up and it was our first time out in the world, and I'd come home with these little booklets and practice reading prayers. But the Jewish community in Salt Lake City is tiny, and I have not been to a bar bat mitzvah since I was 13, so I can't wait to watch it with an adult perspective.

[Ronnie Caron]

We have different thoughts of bar mitzvahs in my family. One, because they. When my bestie was, you know, bar mitzvahing, I suddenly started demanding more things for my birthdays because those kids get everything. I mean, a bar mitzvah is. No, this is the tamest bat Mitzvah I've ever seen in my life. It's like, what, what are they in a party room of a hotel? I mean, it's ridiculous. Most of them are like, you know, fairs and like, as, you know, like, who am I telling? I'm telling a pro over there. I'm telling one of the chosen people. But they're crazy events. So I was like, why is my birthday party in a bowling alley? The man.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, this is pretty on par for like an adult bar mitzvah, of course, because. Or bat mitzvah because of obviously adults. I feel like growing. The bar and bat mitzvahs that I went to and that I even had for myself were pretty, like, they were like, they were big events, but they weren't crazy. It was like there would be the ceremony and then usually, like some. You'd rent out like a restaurant or like some sort of event space. There'd be a dj, there'd be dancing, it'd be really fun. But it's more like after, like, when I went out into the world, I discovered this. There is this whole world of over the top, you know, bar and bat mitzvahs. And I went to one here in LA that was out of control. I mean, they rented out the, the equestrian center, the Burbank Equestrian center. And they had tent after tent. And like, there was an adult tent, there was a kids tent. There was like Dance Dance Revolution. There was a. There was a fondue area, there was like a band, there was a dj. There was. It just was out of control because the parents were divorcing and so the kids, they were competing to make. It was. There was sushi. It was unbelievable. I mean, I do think. Yeah, it was wild.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah, it was amazing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Mine was just like. Mine was just like. We rented out a restaurant called Lenos in White Plains, New York, and we had a dj. And to. To this day I remember how angry my mom was because my mom wanted the last song of the day to be New York, New York. And the DJ played Mony Moni instead. And my mom was like, he didn't play New York, New York.

[Ronnie Caron]

Well, it's a double word repeated. You know, it's a word repeated. So maybe it's just like, ah, I'll just give her another word that's repeated. Money. Money.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah. Mine, I didn't have one, obviously, but I wanted a better birthday And I was. My mom's like, you're not getting one. It's the bowling alley. And I. She's like, you painted the bowling alley stands. Aren't you. The bowling ball stands. Aren't you proud of that? Don't you want to show your friend? I was like, no, I don't want to show my friends that. I pointed painted all the bowling alleys. The bowling ball stands. It sucks. I want to be Jewish. And she's like, ronnie, you won't even pray in English. You think you're going to learn a whole other language to pray in. Get the out of here. Not. You're not. You're not becoming Jewish. They wouldn't have you. I was like, okay, geez. So I got screwed out of that one. So every time I see one, I'm like, God, these are so amazing. I got screwed. But also, why aren't they bowling?

[Ben Mandelker]

So Georgia is with Heather, and basically Heather orders an espresso martini. And Heather's like, I have so much faith in Meredith's religious ceremony that I'm willing to order and an espresso martini for the first time since Palm Springs. And then we see flashbacks of Heather last year getting wasted on espresso martinis. They did not, however, show the footage of the vomit, the endless vomit down the sides of the sprinter van.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah. The turning moment in that movie about the kids who go to that stadium and then out stand by me when everybody barfs on each other in the stadium. Remember? It was like that. It was like unprecedented levels of barfing. And everyone's saying that the editors have turned on Heather this season. She's getting a bad edit. I don't think so. Because they would have showed all of that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, all right.

[Ronnie Caron]

They would have shown all of that. So then Heather's like, the first time I sipped alcohol was in a bar mitzvah. What do you think of that? And our kids like, oh, God, I just be left alone. They had an open bar. I mean, they were making fuzzy navels, which is like peach schnapps or. Oh, it was just so good. I knew it was bad, but it tasted delicious. And it was like, oh, they tried to excommunicate that me that day. I held on. I held on.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then more people start to arrive. Bronwyn and Todd, Lisa, etc. And Whitney and Justin show up. And Heather's like, hi, roses. Okay. To a different rel ceremony. Okay. Best together friend. Best friends to get or back together. And I'm back on the espresso martini because everyone Knows espresso martinis are my thing. And then I stopped, famously, after that night. We all know that's, like, pretty much a part of pop culture, right? It's up there with, like, receipts, proof, timeline. Am I right? Me and espresso martinis. No one. Why is no one, like, impressed that I'm drinking espresso martinis right now?

[Ronnie Caron]

This is what we do at B mitzvahs. You eat, you drink, you be merry. Oh. And she's like, why do you look so glam, Whitney? And Whitney's like, I mean, I didn't know what to do. And she's very Ivana Trump. Like, she has Ivana Trump hair and a big.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Caron]

Black fur coat. And we find out that these theme was diamonds and caviar. Which is hilarious that Meredith is branding her own bar mitzvah as selling caviar as well. That's. That's very Meredith.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, well, it's going to be a caviar bat mitzvah.

[Ronnie Caron]

So BR1's in a bikini top. I'm not really sure what's happening. She's in, like, a glitter bikini. Bikini top and some glitter pants.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And there's, like, still snow on the ground. So Whitney tells us. I have been so frustrated since camp day. I was really trying to get to know Bronwyn until she twisted my words and made it seem like I said all these awful things about Heather. But life is all about intentions, and right now, I do not trust Bronwyn's intentions. Yeah. So she comes in and she's sort of ignoring Bronwyn because I think that what happened is that Bronwyn and Lisa sort of, like, buried the hatchet. But, like, in return to getting back on course, Lisa probably made a request of Bronwyn, like, but you have to hate Whitney. You have to hate Whitney, too. So that's maybe. Maybe that's why Bronwyn, like, did this pivot where suddenly she threw Whitney under the bus about Heather instead of the other way around.

[Ronnie Caron]

No, no. Ronwin doesn't need any pushing. She's a betrayer. She's loyal to nobody. She does it multiple times in this episode alone. She doesn't care. She's like, I'm sick of. I'm sick of. You know, that fight's over. I to have another fight right now. So I'm going to throw that person under the bus. You know, she's actually Heather on steroids, where, you know how Heather is purposely getting people in fights and then standing back, she's like, Heather on steroids, where she's just purposely getting people in fights and she admits it, but then she still stands back because they don't even care that she admitted it. They just keep fighting each other Anyway. Like, Angie totally falls into the pit by the end of this episode.

[Ben Mandelker]

The turn. Bronwyn's turn is a little out of control. And I do think that this is. This is not going to be sustainable. And I think she has a lot of goodwill at this point in the season, but I do think she's going to squander it if she winds up just being someone who just, like, just keeps on betraying over and over again, because it's. We'll get to it. But later on was pretty wild. Very wild in terms of, like, the speed. The hairpin turn was. Was pretty intense.

[Ronnie Caron]

What's crazy is she's kind of making Heather correct.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, maybe so.

[Ronnie Caron]

We'll see. Time will tell. So then, let's see. Whitney's like, I noticed you have been getting more daring with your nails. And then Brittany's like, oh, my God, I'm trying to follow your nails. Look how gorgeous your nails are. And they're looking at each other's nails. And then Bronwyn just looks over at them and, like, rolls her eyes. Like, ew. She's like, God, do you do that, Lisa? Do you put gems all over your nails, Lisa? Do you. Do you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, no, I don't do that. It's a little bridge and tunnel. You know, maybe she's like, bridge and tunnel. I love that term.

[Ronnie Caron]

Bridge and tunnel. That's so fun. I know every New Yorker knows that term. And because George is like, I don't even know what bridge and tunnel means. We do. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So although in la, we have five and dimers. You know about five and dimers, right? Instead of.

[Ronnie Caron]

I don't know what a 5 and dimer is. What's that?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's so mean. Is that, like, you have to take either the 5 or the 10 freeway to get to the city. You're 5 and dimer because there's no bridge and tunnels in LA. So you. So the replacement is 5 and dimer. You come in. You come into LA from either the 5 or the 10.

[Ronnie Caron]

I'm a hillbilly. So then Angie is like, well, things have been a little intense with Meredith and me, so I was a little surprised to get an invite. But I'm looking at this as a path forward and being religious myself, this is a great way to connect. So Bronwyn's like, well, I'm not in a good place with Whitney or with Aunt. No, with. Yeah, with Whitney or with Angie. And I don't appreciate being called a liar for telling the truth.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I still don't really remember why things went so bad with Bronwyn and Angie. I know they got into a fight last week at Camp day, but it was like Angie was saying that Banjo was basically saying that Whitney was. Was throwing Heather under the bus, and then. And then. I'm sorry. Bronwyn was saying that Whitney was throwing Heather under the bus, and then Angie got all upset during that, and I just don't understand why that was. And now they're in a big fight.

[Ronnie Caron]

Because Bronwyn was sticking her nose in it and trying to cause more shit when there was already shit going on and trying to make Angie look bad for things that she had said. Because Bronwyn's basically like, hey, girls want to gossip? And then they do. And then she runs and she's like, guess what Angie said about you? She just twists it. Makes them all look terrible. I mean, she's really. She's really overplayed her hand. I've never seen anybody turn this quickly. I mean, it usually takes.

[Ben Mandelker]

And this is a show. This is a show where they turn quickly. Like, this show already. Like, everyone turns very quickly on this show. But, like. But. But Bronwyn is really going fast.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, by the way, we forgot to mention that Melee has arrived. So that's exciting. So maybe they'll bring back, like, Dana from season three. Or Dana, I should say. Wouldn't that be Dana and Melee? Big impactful people. So Bronwyn is like. She's like, yeah, I'm not in a good place with Whitney or Angie. And I didn't appreciate being called a liar for telling the truth. And I really do not appreciate being told to shut the fuck up. So until Angie wants to come to me with the word, I'm sorry, we don't have a lot of ton to say to each other right now.

[Ronnie Caron]

We really don't. Oh, my God. She's gonna request another apology. That's. That is so Bronwyn. Every episode is gonna be Bronwyn just making someone apologize. So then Bronwyn is now standing with Britney and Melee because she's pissed off everybody else in the cast. She's really down to the B string now. You know, she's down to friends of. So she's over there, and Bronwyn's like, so has you. Have you guys seen anyone since camping? Have you seen Mary Doodle doon, doodle doon. Is Mary coming tonight? And then we see a flashback to Angie talking to Mary at her house and they're talking about Meredith and she's like, well, I don't know if I'm going to go because like, I'm more concerned with my family. And she starts crying and Angie's like, is everything okay? But Mary doesn't let her in on what's going on with Robert Jr. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Mary has like a little monologue about how, you know, she's really turning to God right now for help. She, this is what's happening with Robert. She doesn't even, she, it's interesting. She can't even really articulate it. She doesn't even say like drug issues. Just, she just said, sort of vaguely says, what's going on with him? It's like her worst nightmare. And she just never thought it was going to happen in her household. And she's just asking, turning to God and asking God for help. And you know, and. But what she's saying to Angie is she just is focusing on her family and she's like crying and, you know, Angie's like, look, if there's anything you need from me, I'm here when you're ready.

[Ronnie Caron]

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[Ronnie Caron]

So then Bronwyn's like, well, what's been really fun for me is I've been on the outs with almost everyone. So at some point everyone has talked shit about everyone else to me because I didn't like them. So, yeah, I'm the oracle now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Brittany is like, well, Bronwyn's the dumping ground. So then Angie and Whitney are standing together. And Angie's like, well, I just got a little snub from Bronwyn. Yeah, those are like weird vibes. Mafia vibes. And then they're like, laughing because they're both wearing, like, black furs. So they're looking more mafioso then than all the other people there.

[Ronnie Caron]

So back to the other girls. Britney's like, well, I'm still upset with Angie for calling me a slut. Like, I mean, she says you're sleeping with 10 guys. No, she didn't say that. And you said you were dating 10 guys. Wasn't she the one who was like, well, I'm like, dating 10 guys. What do I care? And they're like, what? That's what Angie was commenting on. And now she's making it that angie said she 10 guys. No, she said you're three guys, which isn't great, but you were the one who said you were dating 10 guys. I remember it. It was just last week.

[Ben Mandelker]

I believe the words were not. I believe the words were, you're doing three guys. You're doing. You're doing. You're doing three guys. Hey, that could mean many things you doing. Could mean you're going to get some soda at one of the Utah soda places. Doesn't have to mean you gotta love Britney.

[Ronnie Caron]

I'm dating like 10 guys right now. Who cares? That's me, Britney dating 10 guys. And someone's like, oh, my God, you're doing so many guys. And she's like, how dare you, slut. Shame me, Pearl, you put it into evidence. What are you objecting to? Sustained to sit down.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Melee's like, no, overruled, overruled, overruled. So then Britney's like, I really think that if she's accusing me of that, it's probably because that's what she was doing with Sean. And Maley's like, oh, I know, sorry, Melee. It's scandalous. I'm just gonna say it. It's extra offensive to be accusing me of. Of that when it's like, so sensitive to my religion and my beliefs and to the Osmond family, you know?

[Ronnie Caron]

And Braun was like, yeah, she did say that. She did. She did. So then Britney's. Britney's very upset and Angie is like, does Angie. Wait, who says this? Does Angie know. Oh, Bronwyn's like, does Angie know how Mormon you are, though? Because she thought you had you. She brought you the wine, and now she says that you're sleeping with people. Maybe she just doesn't think you're that Mormon. I was like, o, that's really fighting words in this town.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Britney's like, no, she knows. I mean, look, I think that I'm. I'm just trying to work my way into the Osmond family, and really only hardcore Mormons care about that. So it's pretty obvious I'm very, very Mormon.

[Ronnie Caron]

And Bronwyn's like, well, I've noticed that in a group setting, Angie really likes to pick on people in front of other people that she'll. She'll like, big up them. You know, she has like the scroll at BE So she kicks the chair in Milwaukee. She. Okay, lady, you're the wearing hot dogs. You know what I mean? Like, you calling anybody attention. Wh is rich madame? Okay, you showed up in a bikini in 20 degree weather on your first episode and you know the. She told. She told me to shut the up 7,000 times. Okay, Ms. Non exaggerator. I can't with her. You read the rest of that being said. Can't.

[Ben Mandelker]

That being said, I really did enjoy the montage of Angie's strange prop work because Angie does have, like, really awkwardly timed. We. We get a nice one later this episode. But, like, when she did knock over that chair or like, discovering the chair.

[Ronnie Caron]

Was so funny because she just kicks backward and it's like bloom.

[Ben Mandelker]

And later on the napkin is just so like. It's just like this very clunky prop work that she does. It's always like, it's brilliant. She never. She never does it at the right time. She does it at the time that she remembers that she has a prop that she can use and she's okay, I'll just do it now.

[Ronnie Caron]

That's why it's funny. Like, she doesn't know her lines for any episode. Like, she's just gotten off book for the episode. She's like, you know what? What you have done to me is so Offensive that I have a daughter. It's like kick, kick over a chair. They're bad at it on this show. Remember when Lisa Barlow was like, I'm going to throw a drink, blah. And she just like kind of tossed it, like, probably fell on her shoulder.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we. Yeah, that was really. That was at the Bezos party, right?

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now the guests are mingling and Meredith's sister Myra shows up. And then Myra meets Angie and Whitney and they're just like. They're just like schmoozing. And then this horse drawn sleigh starts arriving through the snow. We keep cutting to it as if like a serial killer is about to arrive. And Lisa's talking to Myra and Lisa's like, this is so exciting. I love that Meredith decided to do this. And Mara's. Can you believe this is hard work? I know. That's like so appropriate for right now because, like, guess what? We just found out my husband's adopted and that he's Jewish. Jew. Oh, yeah.

[Ronnie Caron]

His dad is a Russian and a German. I love that, Joe. They're like special German Jews. They're German too. I love that. And she's like. And she's like, his mom is just like some blonde girl. Some blonde haired girl from Arizona. She's not Jewish. Let's not talk about her.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's not as interesting.

[Ronnie Caron]

So did you hear this thing that happened? I'm gonna bring up a couple after show things in this because I've seen clips on them and they're so funny. Well, this one is that Lisa found out that her husband was adopted. And she's like, I want to find out who your family is. Like, who your birth parents are. And he's like, please don't do that. I really don't want you to do that. And she did it anyway. She went behind just back and did it. Which is just so Lisa. Like, I can't even. And now she's like going around telling everybody against his wishes.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's just.

[Ronnie Caron]

I'm sorry to laugh, but it's just so wrong. It's so wrong to do that. I'll tell you the other one later. Okay, so now the sleigh is coming. And Heather's like, wait, is that really Meredith? Meredith? I'm having an espresso martini.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Mer, their whole family arrives on the sleigh and Meredith is like, well, I don't usually make a grand entrance. I really don't. But this is a very special day, and I want to do something that would be definitely memorable. And it Turns out I found a sleigh that actually has toddler seats, so I knew it was safe for little Brooksie. So here we are.

[Ronnie Caron]

It's a sleigh. What's his. Brooks and Chloe are just in the back going, slay, slay, badge, slay, badge, slay, mother, slay. I can't slay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Can we get in the car? It's, like, cold, stupid. Yeah, I'm over it. Yeah, me too. Let's go. Bye.

[Ronnie Caron]

Hello, everybody. Muscle time, first thing. Oh, my God, it's Meredith. And she's like. Well, given all of the issues I. Given all of the issues I've had with Angie, surprise lately is surprising to me that she wanted to come, but I'm happy that she did, because today is about inclusivity and positivity and togetherness and caviar. Just what Moses parted the Red Sea for. So here we are.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they're very nice to each other. They're very cordial. Everyone goes inside, and pretty much everyone's there, except for Mary. Mary. Because we're wondering if Mary's gonna be there. So then the ceremony begins, and it's very, very lovely. You know, the rabbis speaking Hebrew and welcoming everyone in. And there's praying. There's stuff. There's, like. There's reading from the Torah, and there's tears and there's smiles, and everyone's. Everyone's. Everyone's watching the. Everything. And also, Meredith puts on Seth's talis or his tallit, and we see a flashback, because earlier, Seth is like, can I give you my tallit for the bar mitzvah? I want to wear yours. Yeah. Also, I don't want to get in the cake when I. When I lick Whitney's nipples. By the way, I got another Whitney nipple cake for your bat mitzvah. Hope you don't mind.

[Ronnie Caron]

Bat mitzvah. Whitney nipple cake. Well, what an incredible way to bond with Sassy. Wearing his scarf from his bar mitzvah. This one smells a little bit like crusty socks, if you know what I mean. Some very cheap wine. But he was a teenager, so I will forgive him, and I will get bar mitzvahed.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so she's. She's. The ceremony is continuing on, and Lisa's, like, crying, and she's like, you know, being Jewish by heritage, I love the Jewish faith, even though I voluntarily left it. And I'm lucky. That's a part of me. And, like, I think it's, like, really important to remember your Howard Hudge and where you came from and that you Know that your mom is not from Arizona. Sorry, John. Anyway, now I feel even closer to Meredith and I couldn't be more proud of her.

[Ronnie Caron]

So now Seth is crying. He's like, this is beautiful. And then they do the Torah and Meredith. Meredith sits for a moment and Mary pulls up outside and she's like, you know, with everything going on with Robert Jr. I, I didn't know if I was going to come, but it's important. It's important. It's important to Meredith, so it's important to me. So she's decided they're going to make up. Unfortunately, she's late and she doesn't know how doors work because, yeah, this is.

[Ben Mandelker]

The sort of place that looks like everything looks like a door, but it's actually a window. And they've also blacked. It seems like they've blacked out the door for production. So Mary is trying to get into this mitzvah. And what's so funny is that this Bat Mitzvah, they're. They're presenting it very respectfully. Like, it's, it's not, they're not being jokey about it. It's like a, you know, it's, it's. It's been given, like, appropriate gravitas and meaningfulness, etc. But Mary comes and she's trying to get in and she's confused. And I think that she can't see through any of the windows because I think they're all blacked out or like. So she's peering in and Meredith is there by the window, like raising the Tara and everything. And Mary is in there at the. It's not just that she's on the side. She is at the front, like under.

[Ronnie Caron]

The T. She's like basically on the stage looking through.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like one of the funniest psychs I've ever had on this show.

[Ronnie Caron]

So funny. So Britney's like, oh, my God, she's really late. Oh God, she's peeking through the window. And so the ceremony continues and Mary. Mary's just like feeling the walls. Like, how do I get in? How do I get in here?

[Ben Mandelker]

So Meredith is now giving a speech with Mary in the background, like, whatever. So Meredith is like, well, I didn't have Batman for growing up and for most of my life, that didn't bother me. Sorry, hold on. I'm having a little bit of a minute. But she's crying. She's.

[Ronnie Caron]

Do you know how difficult it is being 13 years old and being the only girl who didn't have a cotton candy Machine at your birthday. Hold on, give me a moment.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she talks about how as anti Semitism has, has, you know, been on the rise. She's felt like it was really important for her to publicly affirm her Judaism and gather her family and friends and that she just wants to gather everyone, Jewish, Mormon, Christian, Muslim, gay, straight, etc, and bring the world together, make the world a better place. It's, you know, and all that nice stuff.

[Ronnie Caron]

So it's like this is a spiritual journey and I feel a stronger connection to my Jewish heritage now. And so now, you know, now they do some more singing and Mary's made it in by now, you know. And so now it's time for the party. So Mary walks up to Heather, she goes, wow, you look smaller. And Heather asked the bartender, she's like, okay, can I have the most caloric drink ever? Because for the first time in history, Mary wants to fatten me up. Mary's like, kinda Mary's the worst because she is definitely one of those people that's like, you're fat, you're fat, you're fat, you're fat, you're fat. And then you lose weight and they're like, you say sick, you sick. What's wrong with you? You look terrible. You lost too much weight off. It was due to your bullying.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So then, then Mary goes up to Meredith's mom and Meredith's mom sort of looks like not sure, Terry, but what's name? Mindy. What? You know what, she's an improper sin. Yeah.

[Ronnie Caron]

From Dr. Evil's assistant.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. She sort of looks like that Austin Powers.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I just love, I just love the, the Meredith voice. Like we hear it in Myra, but then we hear like origin story is the mom. And she's like, well, hello, I'm Meredith's mother.

[Ronnie Caron]

How are you?

[Ben Mandelker]

Nice to meet you. Which was great. I was like, it's just in the family.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah. And I like that people are like, oh, hi. Like Mary's like, oh, hi, I'm Mary. And she goes, huh, like, good to meet you. Everybody's introducing themselves and Mer, Meredith's mom, is like, I don't know any you people. I'm not watching this trash. I'm busy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And then Heather introduces Bronwyn to her plastic surgeon who's there. And then this guy really does have.

[Ronnie Caron]

Plastic surgeon face too. He looks like a Muppet. A very cute Muppet.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And then Angie's now talking to Lisa. She's like, I was going to tell you I am Greek, just in case you forgot. And I need to talk to you about Bronwyn. I can sense she's, like, upset. Yeah, I feel like she's upset. Yeah. So if she has, you know, a thing with me, I don't want that to get between you and I.

[Ronnie Caron]

And Lisa's like, I. I didn't. Like, what? We weren't talking. She's like, me neither. It was a void. A void in my life. I am Greek. There was a void in my life, too. And it wasn't just the rack. And then Mary approaches, and she's talking to Meredith. And so Meredith is doing that, like, real tight smile and nod thing where she's like, enjoy, Ling. And Mary's like, listen, let's talk. I've never had a friend walk out of my house, and my friends don't treat me like that. Not my real ones. And I know this is your night, and I don't want to fight, but emeritus is like, well, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings by leaving. Boom. That's all we needed.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And Mary's like, and I'm sorry I hurt your feelings by making you feel like you weren't welcome. And so they basically. Look at that, guys.

[Ronnie Caron]

It's about mitzvah miracle.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. They basically hug, and they realize it's just all so silly and stupid, which was really nice. It was actually. I was actually really happy that they. They reconciled. And then we go over to Britney and Heather, and Heather's talking to Britney, and Heather's like, I think the fact that she came, that Mary came, and they're even talking is honestly, mind blowing. Almost as mind blowing as the fact that I'm back on the espresso martini train. Oh, my God. Someone released a press Release to page 6. Heather's Drinking Martinis again.

[Ronnie Caron]

So then we move over to Angie, asking Bronwyn to talk. Dun, dun, dun, dun. Oh, no. First we see Brooke sitting with his grandma and aunt, and one of them's like, I've never had this. He's like, raclette? Yeah, I've never had it. You've never had Raclette? No. Have you? No, I haven't had Raclette either. Well, I haven't had it. Well, I've never had it. What does it even mean? Does it kick? Does it kick? Like, not Rockette. It's Raclette. Like, it's ridiculous. It's, like, fairly normal.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, Grandma. Like, no offense, like, you not knowing. Raclette's, like, kind of ruining the vibe. Just gonna say, yeah, grandma, if you don't know Raclette you're probably gonna have to leave. I can't believe grandma doesn't know about Raclette.

[Ronnie Caron]

It's like you're a pink yarmulke in the sea of black. You're like, wait a minute.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everyone knows about rot. It's like crazy.

[Ronnie Caron]

You get over here. I'm gonna spank your bottom. Don't give Bash toddlers. God damn it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So that Bron and Angie are going to have a talk. And I foolishly thought this was actually on the heels of Mary and. And. And Meredith having a productive discussion. That was nice. I thought, well, the spirit of a Bob Mitzvah, it's like, you know, this is like a religious event. It's momentous. It' you know, like, it's. It's gonna spill over now into Angie and Bronwyn. What could go wrong? And this will be a lovely episode.

[Ronnie Caron]

Because Angie also has the attitude of like, I'm gonna go fix it. This is silly.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caron]

You know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caron]

So she goes over there thinking, this is gonna be an easy talk. So Bronwyn's like a talk? Mm, yes. Argue everything else. No, she's. What is everything else? Well, I mean, it's a Bat Mitzvah, so I want to be respectful. Yes. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay.

[Ronnie Caron]

So what's going on? She's like, well, always start with a compliment. Love your outfit. Love your purse, all of your sparkles. She goes, oh, is step two an apology? Apology, yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, do I owe an apology? And she's like, yeah, I would think so. Yeah.

[Ronnie Caron]

And she's like, oh, my God, that nodding head. I swear to you, that nodding head is. It started as, like, a little thing that bugged me, and now it's just, like, making my whole face itch. I'm like, stop nodding your head. I do not agree with you. Stop assuming agreement. I will not comply with you.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, well, you think I owe you an apology? And Angie's like, you know what? Things got heated, and it definitely ended on a bad note. And I feel like you twisted something that I said, and, you know, she was, oh, did I twist the 7,000 times that you told me to shut the fuck up?

[Ronnie Caron]

That is twisting it. Saying 7,000 times, that is literally twisting it. And Angie goes, no, I said it. She goes, but you and I both know telling me to shut the fuck up at that many times is out of line. And until I get an apology from you, there is nothing further for us to say to each other. Do whatever the fuck you want, but not with me, Ange, not with me.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, whoa, why are you coming in so hot on Angie?

[Ronnie Caron]

Come on, Listen, you've tried it with every person in the cast, but now you're coming for Angie. She is an international treasure. I am Greek. How dare you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, okay, you know what? You better, you better take a step back, Lava, okay? Because that is Angie, okay? And I, I am loving ramen this season. But you know what, though? There's a pecking order here, and I'm gonna need you and Angie to be friends because I like the Angie and Bronwyn, like, duo thing that they had for most of the season. So that it's falling apart is very upsetting to me. And I just don't understand. Like, you can ask for an apology for being told shut the up, but you can also hear someone when they say that they want an apology. And also, you don't have to come in that hot.

[Ronnie Caron]

Like, why are you coming. Shut the up. And you needed to shut the fuck up. And I like that she gets on her like, why are you allowed to curse but nobody else is? Because Bronwyn has a filthy mouth. But then everybody else, she's like, how dare you curse around a lady. It's like, shut up, lady. You know, that's this is pedathetic and I won't have commercials. Here comes one right now. Credit Karma makes building your credit straightforward and stress free. With help from our credit builder.

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[Ronnie Caron]

So Angie's so. She's like, well, why does it make you feel good if I does it make you feel good? I will say I'm sorry. I told you to shut the fuck up. She goes, ange, that is not an apology. Ange, that is not an apology. You know what, Ange, that's not it. It. That's not it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I actually thought it was. To be honest, when she says, so does it make you feel good if I say sorry? I told you to say shut. I told you to say shut the fuck up. I was like. I felt like that was actually the first step of an apology. So Angie's like. She's like, bronwyn, don't walk away. You know what? That's just cheap. That's just cheap. Promot like, oh, I'm cheap now? I'm cheap.

[Ronnie Caron]

I said, it's the easy way to walk. Oh, so now I'm cheap. So Angie's like, well, if you are going to ask for an apology and someone gives it to you, you then you better learn how to take it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, you know what? You put me in a bad position. You tried to make things much worse between me, Heather, Whitney and Lisa and everyone than it needed to be. Because that's not true. Okay? You know, Angie, I'm not doing this. I am not gonna do this. So Angie's like, you are spinning the story because now Angie's activated. Because once Angie's activated, then she's like.

[Ronnie Caron]

Online, Angie will go low with your ass. Like, you know, Bronwyn doesn't know what's coming for her. She's with every single person on this cast. And they're treating her with kid gloves because she's new, but they will. They will crush her. I don't care how much money she has. So Brahman's like, by the way, you're the one who said that she's 10 guys at once. Right, right, right. I'm like, are you on a bumpy road in a pioneer wagon? Stop nodding your head.

[Ben Mandelker]

Angie goes, I didn't say 10. Who said 10? And Brahma's like, Britney is telling me you said 10. And Angel's like, Did I say 10? Sorry, honey, I said three. And Brahman's like, oh, so that's much better. Which is kind of Funny because I like, it's like, I didn't say she was sleeping with 10 people. Only three different people.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah, I'm Britney. No one. It makes me crazy that no one's bringing up the fact that Britney said she was dating 10 guys. So Andrew's like, and you think you're funny with your jabs. And she's like, I'm not funny. I'm just honest. I love someone who hides behind that. It's just honesty.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's not. You aren't mean. You do things to hurt people's feelings. Roman's like, your language was out of control. Is over the top. And so then Angie's like, but you say bullshit. You say fuck. You say dick. I'm not gonna ride your fucking dick, Lisa. Like, it's my job. Remember when you said that rolled the.

[Ronnie Caron]

Clip last week, she said the C word. So there you go.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's right.

[Ronnie Caron]

So then Angie is like, you're just. You're fucking crass and disgusting. And Brahma's like, but did I scream in your face? Because the more you accuse me of, the more rules. I'm gonna make it up so that you're going, I'm going to make up more rules so that you can be wrong in every sentence. Every sentence. I'll just make up a new rule. Because now it's not about cursing. It's screaming while you're cursing. And she's like, well, I didn't talk about writing anyone's dick at least. And she goes, oh, really? And how many times do I say things? And she's like, you have crass, nasty language all the time. And you're offended. And she goes, but you scream in my face. Okay, let's just change the argument.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, losing the word offends you when you say dick every five seconds. You know what? When someone unhinged yells at me to shut. Yes. At. Shut the up. Yes. Yes. So then Todd walks over because he sees that Bronwyn is like, everyone sees that they're fighting. So Todd walks over, he's like, hey, honey. He's like, well, I think it's time for another drink. Would you like another glass of wine, Angie? Because he's just trying to diffuse. And Brahman's like, you don't need to bring someone who calls me a liar. Don't calls me a liar a drink, Todd. He's like, I know. So I'm just trying to defuse this situation, Angie. I mean, Bronwyn, if waiters only served.

[Ronnie Caron]

Grateful people, the Cracker Barrel would be Empty of waiters. Have you ever seen someone in there ordering a Mac and cheese? A bunch of damn heathens. So she's mad at Todd now for being nice to Angie. And so she's still going. And Angie. And then Angie tries playing Todd again, which is really funny. She's like, thank you, Todd. Todd is being so nice. Todd loves me. Thank you, Todd. I'm going to sit on Todd's lap. Here's what I want for a great Christmas. And Bronwyn's like, you don't dare look me in the face and apologize to me. She's like, I said, I am sorry. I told you to shut the fuck up. Todd's just like, oh, my God. I can't believe they're using the F word.

[Ben Mandelker]

Brahman's like, so you want to give another bullshit apology to Todd? Go for it. But I haven't heard a single one out of you that was worthwhile, Angie. And Angie's like, tod, love you, Todd. So Bronwyn. So Todd brings. Takes Bronwyn out of the way.

[Ronnie Caron]

Like, Todd is like rice wrapped in grape leaves. Love you, Todd. I was like, oh, God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Todd's mortified. He hates all this. So Bron. So Bronwyn walks by Lisa, Mellie, and Britney, and so Mellie is like, I'm fine. Thank you for asking, Melly. And Todd's like, well, honey, you weren't even giving me a chance to diffuse the situation. Come on. I was gonna give her a Palm Pilot.

[Ronnie Caron]

And she. All she hears, Todd, is you telling her that everything is fine. Todd, you understand? And he's like, oh, well, that's not what I was trying to say. Hey, lady, you can't speak a syllable that anybody could understand. Could you walk over there, stare at a wall, you Blair Witch Project. I can't take it. Now listen to me. Here, here. All right.

[Ben Mandelker]

He literally dismisses Melly. He's like, Bailey. He's like, get out of here. Excuse me one minute. She's like, oh, go learn to make.

[Ronnie Caron]

A sentence mumble mouth.

[Ben Mandelker]

Brahma's like, you're being very nice, and I appreciate you being respectful of other women, but all they hear is that you're sticking up for them. What is promo talking about? He was not sticking up for anyone. He was coming in because you were making a scene at a bar mitzvah. And, like, Mirta's mom is there, her kids are there, and you're making a fool of yourself, and he's trying to get you the hell out of there and save you.

[Ronnie Caron]

I know, but she's looking at it as like, he's not having my back as my husband. And he shouldn't be coming over trying to smooth things over with Angie. He should be over there trying to smooth things over with me and getting me away from him. And, you know, I mean, I kind of get that, but, I mean, she's wrong, but I kind of see what she's doing. And so he's like, well, that's not what I was trying to do. Unbelievable. And so she's like, I'll have an espresso martini. Which, you know, really pisses him off because, like, oh, now she's going to be a drunk, loose woman. So she's like, I told her 10 times, if there wasn't an apology, I wasn't interested, Todd. And he's like, so why'd you stay? Why'd you want. Why didn't you walk away? Then there's no winning.

[Ben Mandelker]

If I tell the truth, I'm a liar. If I tell a lie, I'm being plus this. And, you know, people, like, just, like, none of them can own their own shit that they say to themselves. And then they, like, walk away and bar. And Bronwyn basically turns to the bartender, is like, well, I'm sorry you had to overhear our therapy lesson. You don't get paid enough for that. And I did not tip. Sorry. Bye.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah. And so then Angie and Sean are talking, and Angie's going off, and she's like. She is trying to make me look bad. And he's like, what did Meredith Mark say about it? Is she here? Do you think there's anywhere I can angle myself to get a picture with her?

[Ben Mandelker]

Love her. I got Mary. Do you do exorcisms? She's like, no, girl. So then Whitney. Whitney is like, wait a second. Everyone's having fun arguments. Not me, though. Okay. Hey, Heather, we need to talk about what Bronwyn was saying at Camp nine day. Camp day.

[Ronnie Caron]

Listen, I don't think there's anything to discuss. I know Bronwyn was spinning her yawn about you guys kikiing about how you're not my friend, but it's not a big deal. Still good, right? When we're cousins. So she's like, whatever. Whitney talks behind my back all the time. I don't give a. I'm not gonna fight with Whitney for some new girl, right? So then Lisa comes over and she's like, what's happening?

[Ben Mandelker]

I never said I want to take down Heather. Bronwyn is telling me that I'm gonna.

[Ronnie Caron]

Listen you know what's hard? You know what's hard.

[Ben Mandelker]

But nay. Wait, why? Will you let. Will you. Will you let me speak?

[Ronnie Caron]

Don't talk to me like that. Don't talk to me like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Every time I talk, you start talking.

[Ronnie Caron]

You interrupt too. You interrupt too, though. You interrupt too, though.

[Ben Mandelker]

No prism collection. You already know. You already know. Bronwyn is taking my fucking words and spinning them.

[Ronnie Caron]

Lie.

[Ben Mandelker]

Lie.

[Ronnie Caron]

It's a lie. Making up things is a lie, right now you make up things and you lie. Like, you know how I can figure out who's lying? Cause you get both liars in the room and then you see who's lying.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then meanwhile, we then cut over. In the middle of this ridiculous argument, we cut over to Bronwyn, who has now returned to the JV bench with Britney and Melee. And Bronwyn's like, oh, well, how the tables have this friendship turn. Who knew I'd be friends with you two? Which is so condescending. She just says it right to their faces and they're like, ha. So then Britney's like, well, girlfriend, now that we are newly friends, I want this to last a hot minute. How about that? At least that's like, let's make this last this time.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah. So she's like, yay. Broman and I are finally friends. I'm so excited to see where this friendship goes. I was like, give it two minutes. I mean, when it happened before I knew it was happening, I said, give it two minutes. It literally took two minutes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yep.

[Ronnie Caron]

So just kidding, man. This show burns through plot so fast. I love it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. So Britney. So. So Whitney calls Brahman over because I guess she needs to settle things with what's going on with Lisa. And then Britney follows Heather. Basically everyone convenes together. So Angie is like, happy B Mitzvah. What's going on, Angie? Did I say anything bad about Heather?

[Ronnie Caron]

And Andrew's like, listen, we did all talk, but I feel like Bronwyn twisted it it. And Angie's like, bronwyn thinks I'm a bad person that says mean things about her daughter. And I was trying to be kind. And Britney's like, but you do say things to be dramatic. And I'm standing arm in arm right now with Bronwyn, so we're best friends now, so everybody has to listen to me. What about me?

[Ben Mandelker]

And Angie's like, I. I have been nice to you, Britney. And Britney's like, no, you basically called me a. She goes, I don't even use that word since 1990.

[Ronnie Caron]

And Lisa goes, well, you know, to be fair, saying you're three guys isn't. Isn't great. And Britney's like, you literally said, I was effing, like, 10 guys at the same time. And she's like, no, I didn't. Britney freaking so stupid. So Braun was like, here, I'll be messy on your behalf. Britney told me earlier that she thinks you called her a slut because you're a slut. I'm like, oh, my. What are you doing?

[Ben Mandelker]

That was so. Like, that pivot was so fast. I was like, girl, what. I mean, I was. I cracked up. Don't get me wrong. I was laughing at the brazenness of it all, that she actually conned Britney for all of 30 seconds into thinking that their friendship was real. But I was also like, that's also a shitty move. Like, that's so shitty. She just pivots. She makes Britney, who just is trying to find some sort of foothold in this cast. Britney's like, finally, someone's on my side. And then Brahman just completely throws her under the bus.

[Ronnie Caron]

So. And I think that Bronwyn, like, if I try to be objective, I think Bronwyn was probably like, oh, my God, this girl is terrible at fighting. So I'm gonna throw her one. Call her a slut. You just called her a slut. Just call her a slut. You know, But, I mean, yeah, this was bad. And Britney goes, wait, what?

[Ben Mandelker]

And Ronwin is like, ordinarily, I'd be more than happy to see Angie getting into trouble, you know, after she's fucked with me. But I'm tired of Britney's little schtick running her mouth and then being like, poor me. I'm such a victim. Somebody called me a slut. Somebody called me, bought me wine. I can't deal with it anymore. So if you're gonna call Angie a slut outside, then call Angie a sleep inside.

[Ronnie Caron]

So Angie goes, you think I'm a slut? She goes, no, I didn't. Why wouldn't you stir the pot, Bronwyn? And she goes, but you did say that you were going to say it to her face, right? You said you were. So I've just said it to you so you can say it to her face.

[Ben Mandelker]

Angie is basically like a fire hose, and you just pivot her, and then she just. Like that water. So the stream goes from this person to this person to this person. Because Angie's.

[Ronnie Caron]

I mean, Angie's whole argument right now is that Bronwyn's twisting words so when she does it to somebody else, she takes it literally. She's like, nope.

[Ben Mandelker]

She doesn't even question. She doesn't even question Bronwyn or anything. She's like, wait a second. Hey. And you. And you. So now she's going after her and she's like, you did say that. You said you were going to say it to her face. Oh, I'm sorry. Bronwyn says, you said that you called her A. And Britney's like, well, I said, if you're accusing me of sleeping with multiple guys. I said, maybe that's how you dated.

[Ronnie Caron]

So Bronwyn's like, well, Britney wanted to be friends for a hot minute. I gave her five.

[Ben Mandelker]

That shit's over. And she's like, I don't look like I have a high body count, and I don't dress like I have a high body count and I don't wear my hair like I have a high body count.

[Ronnie Caron]

I have to give Ron when credit because I have not really liked Ron when this whole season. And one of my biggest complaints is that she doesn't ever make me laugh is that she wears these crazy clothes and these crazy outfits. And she seems like she's going to be fun, but she's just not fun. She's like a complaining Karen who, like, throws her husband's money around and brags about it constantly and tries to make everybody fall in line for them. It's made. She's made me crazy. But my biggest complaint is she's just not fun. This was fun. I did laugh. So while she's kind of proving to be an asshole, which I love, she at least was funny when she said she wanted to be friends for a hot minute. And I give her five.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now Angie starts going on this thing like, I don't look like I have a high body count. And Brittany's like, do you think my hair looks cheap?

[Ronnie Caron]

It.

[Ben Mandelker]

She goes, I think it looks a little pornish. Your hair. Do you really mean that? You think my hair looks slutty? That looks like high body count Hair. This does not. My hair does not. This is not high body count. Okay? This is not good. This is not. This is nice. Lisa's is nice. That's not. That does not. Lisa's is not. Ronan's is not. But that yours. That's high body count Hair. That is high body count. Dress, dress. Those are high body count. Heels. If you call me slutty, I think I look like a mother.

[Ronnie Caron]

I look like a mother. And she's wearing. She's wearing A skin tight black dress that's like cut down all the way to her belly button. So funny. And Brahma's like, really in her Versace with her nipples hanging out. I am seriously in shock right now. I'm seriously in shock. And then Angie's like, do I I look slutty? And Britney's like, you know what, Angie? Screw you. She goes, no, screw you, slutty Britney. Take your little bump it and walk away. Lisa goes, oh my God, you just shamed her hair.

[Ben Mandelker]

Britney's like, oh my God. I seriously cannot believe that. What just happened? I'm gonna leave. And Whitney goes, what happened? Brittany's like, I'm seriously like leaving the party. Like, Angie just said I have like, like slutty vibes. Like, she just said my hair is slutty. Like my address is slutty. My tits are slutty.

[Ronnie Caron]

She didn't say your tits are slutty. But I like that everybody here twists every single thing, so. And also Britney's such a drama queen. She's like, I am leaving. And then she goes to stand where the cater waiters are and absolutely does not leave. You know, so then Britney is like, I've never been so offended. So Whitney's like, and that was kind of mean. She's crying.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I got lost because I got too excited. I'm sorry.

[Ronnie Caron]

So funny. So Angie's like, okay, she's telling us. I want to make it clear. I did not call Britney a slut. I called her hair slutty. That is not slut shaming. That is hair shaming. And in my business there's a difference. I mean, I was offering up true advice. So. So Angie's like, okay, I'll go apologize. Right? So now Britney is behind the caterpillar waiter curtain talking to Chloe and Brooks. And Chloe's like, are you okay? I just got called slutty. Wait, what the hell? That's.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's not nice. That's.

[Ronnie Caron]

I don't think that's true.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's so not right.

[Ronnie Caron]

It's not nice.

[Ben Mandelker]

Have you heard of rat?

[Ronnie Caron]

That's mean. You're like, you're like a babe. You could probably like 10 guys at once.

[Ben Mandelker]

You could probably like melt Raclette just by like how hot you are. You know about Raclette, right?

[Ronnie Caron]

You're iconic.

[Ben Mandelker]

Iconic mother, not real mother. Mother's the most mother. But you're like close to mother.

[Ronnie Caron]

So then Bronwyn is asking Meredith if she's okay. And then Brooks comes in. Tattletales. Right away, he's like, britney is crying. You should go check on her. She's a slut that doesn't know what raquettes are.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Brittany's like, I'm leaving. And Lisa's like, hey, why are you leaving? Because I just called. I just called slutty hair.

[Ronnie Caron]

And Mailey says, she just said my hair. She said mainly, like, wait a minute. She says that your hair is slutty, too, Mainly. Oh, my God. I have slutty 90s hair. Meredith's like, come here. Brooks just told me you weren't crying due to me and Angie. Are you okay? Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, it just was so low. I've never been slut shamed like that before. Hey, hey, hey. She does. You owe you an apology. She does. Angie, she know. I'm sorry. She's like, she knows. She knows she owes you an apology. Hold on one second. It's because, like. Because the thing is this. Angie went so hard. But then when Britney went away, they told. They told Angie, hey, just so you know, Britney's crying, and she's like, oh, well, like, I didn't want to make her cry. She's like, I thought I was just doing my scene, you know? She's like, oh, I don't really want to make her cry. Okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna make her feel better. So. But at this point, like. And Lisa knows this, so Lisa's trying to get Britney to get over to Angie so they can squash it before Meredith finds out and gets mad, but it's too late, because Meredith already knows.

[Ronnie Caron]

So. And she's like, britney, I love your hair. And Lisa goes, she doesn't. She's lying. She goes, come on. You said I was probably slutty. You did. Britney's like, I did not. Millie's like, shut up, Bailey. And Andrew's like, it's super offensive to an old Greek Greek, an old school Greek girl to say she's slutty. Okay, so now we're bringing the Greek. I'm offended, as a Greek, that you would call me slutty. How dare you? You've not only offended me, you've offended Zeus.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now Meredith is like, you called someone a slut in front of my toddler. And a. And I'm not even sure why you're here, because you invited me. And you know what? You can go. You're calling her a slut. Bye. Take your husband and go.

[Ronnie Caron]

I like the part. I think it's missed here. But there is a part where. Where Angie's like, britney's like, she called me. She called me slutty hair. And Lisa goes, you don't have slutty hair. You do need hot oil, though.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, she says it actually literally the very next line right here. She goes, oh, don't let. Don't let her hurt your feelings. But you know what? You do need carrot therapy. Yeah. Yeah, you do. You do.

[Ronnie Caron]

I'm sorry. I thought it was missing. I was like, we can't miss.

[Ben Mandelker]

I thought it was too. That's why I got lost for me. That's why I got lost before. I was like, didn't this happen? Are we missing it? But it was literally right here. We just had to be patient.

[Ronnie Caron]

That is so funny. I was dying.

[Ben Mandelker]

That was amazing. I mean, I was just done. This whole thing is just amazing. And now that Meredith is screaming at her own bat mitzvah, like, you can leave. And Angie's like, meredith, we are not playing this game. Oh, yes, we are. And this time I have security, security, security, please escort her and her husband out. You can go. You are not welcome at this moment.

[Ronnie Caron]

And she's doing her pirate eye where she can go. This is not a slut mitzvah. And so Angie's like, oh, you do not need to escort thort me. I weigh like a hundred pounds. I can walk. Wow, this is very beautiful religious cement, Meredith. Thank you.

[Ben Mandelker]

As someone who is dressed like a mother, I want to say thank you. So Meredith's like, well, I don't like people who slut. Shame tells us, this is not what I wanted.

[Ronnie Caron]

She.

[Ben Mandelker]

But she left me no choice. Angie has been repeatedly shaming women, including me. And then they do. They do wind up a nice montage of Angie being like, you are a slut. You open your legs to every living thing. Slut slot. Slut, slut. High body count hair.

[Ronnie Caron]

I don't like other women. They're grinding other women. So Angie's like, I brought you a gift, by the way. Thanks for coming empty handed to my party. And these big, huge security guys are just standing there with their arms out like, we won't let her pass, you know, but we won't touch her. And so Angie's trying to come up with some other thing to fight about. And then you talk about me without a gift. Do not call me slutty ever again, Brittany. And she's like, I did not call you slutty. You called me slutty. Vibes.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is not mine, by the way. This coat. This is not mine. This is a high body count coat. No. And she like, Throws. Cuz they give her a coat. She throws it the ground. So Angie walks out. She's like, class L. Meredith's like, she needs to be escorted out. Vile human being. And now that I'm a real woman, now that I'm an adult, I can say this with authority. She needs to go.

[Ronnie Caron]

So Lisa chases Angie out and Mary's like, what happened? And Angie goes, I didn't even talk to her. I have no idea it was about hair.

[Ben Mandelker]

I feel so bad for Angie, but like, I don't see how. She's like, doesn't see her partner.

[Ronnie Caron]

And now Angie's standing at the entrance, still with the security guides and still going off. Now about this gift that she never got for her anniversary party.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Caron]

So then Britney is like, I'm sick of her throwing out jobs. I'm sleeping with people. She's criticized us as mothers. She's criticized us as women. She has criticized us as toddler razor.

[Ben Mandelker]

I am so sick of this. I am sick of it. And you know what? Let me pull a Meredith on you right now. Every time you see her, she's got an excuse as to why she's crying. Oh my God, my phone is ringing because I did not put it on vibrate. Tell her to come out here and resolve this.

[Ronnie Caron]

So Meredith's sister is like, meredith, no, you need to come sit with me and mom right now. Yes, Meredith, Tom Tom are going over a new bean salad round something so Bron. Britney's like, bronwyn, why don't you and mey take a selfie with me? And Bronwyn goes, yeah, I don't have slutty hair. So I'm out of this one. Where's Lisa?

[Ben Mandelker]

And. And Angie's like. She's like, I am done. I'm embarrassed that she invited me here and then asked me to leave. And I think this is where she. Somewhere in here. She throws a napkin up in the. She's holding a napkin for some reason. She just throws it up in the air. She's like, might as well.

[Ronnie Caron]

It's here.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll throw a napkin. Why not?

[Ronnie Caron]

No one even watches it. They're just like, whatever. Sean's just standing there like, oh, geez. So then Angie leaves. She's like, what a. So then everybody starts leaving, but Lisa approaches Meredith and she's like, oh my God. The level of accusation is like, unbelievable.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's crazy. Well, yeah. Cheers to Puerto Vallarta. And then it turns out we have this whole thing that basically right before this bat mitzvah, Lisa decided Since everyone was sort of getting along up until the camp day that they were gonna go to Puerto Vallarta for their cast trip, and it was gonna be really fun. So now they've all committed to going to Mexico, but now they all hate each other.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah. So stupid and funny. What a hilarious show. I was dying laughing this whole time.

[Ben Mandelker]

My God, it was amazing. So amazing. It was great. It was great. I really felt like. Not to be like this, but I felt it aired on my birthday and it felt like a great birthday gift to me. I'm not gonna lie. It felt like I felt like Bravo gave me a gift wrapped in a bow. And by gosh, I appreciated every single second of it.

[Ronnie Caron]

And it was still one of our shortest Salt Lake City recaps, I guess, because so much of it was bat mitzvah stuff, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it was just. It was just great. Great.

[Ronnie Caron]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So anyway, everyone, thank you so much for listening. Be sure to get tickets to our tour. Those are. Those are for sale right now. Go to our website, watchfulcrappins.com to get yours and we'll catch you later this week for more recaps.

[Ronnie Caron]

Bye, everybody.

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