#2650 RHOBH S1404 Part Two: Sister Act

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Episode: #2650 RHOBH S14E04 Part Two: Sister Act
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: December 11, 2024

In episode #2650 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the intricacies of Season 14, Episode 4 of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH) titled "Sister Act." This detailed, two-part recap examines the evolving dynamics among the cast members, highlighting moments of tension, support, and underlying conflicts that drive the season's narrative forward.

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1. Garcelle and Kyle’s Tensions Over Hermes Towels

[03:10]
The episode kicks off with a focus on a scene where Garcelle and Kyle Richards engage in a subtle yet telling exchange over a pair of luxurious Hermes towels. Kyle's eye-catching reaction—“Look at these cute towels. Oh my God. These are Hermes”—reveals her penchant for high-end brands and sets the stage for underlying jealousy and competition.

Ben:
“Maybe it's a gift from Kathy. What do I know? Well, I have a feeling that they belong to the boat. That's so annoying.”

This moment underscores the often-materialistic interactions among the Housewives, where even household items become symbols of status and sources of contention.

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2. Dorit and Sutton’s Separation and Support

[04:46]
The conversation shifts to Dorit Kemsley and Sutton Stracke, highlighting Dorit's emotional struggles following her separation. Sutton reaches out, offering a comforting hand, saying, “I've been thinking about you. What you're going through is really hard.”

Ronnie:
“Dorit has always declared her love for PK, but now, it seems there's more turmoil beneath the surface.”

This exchange emphasizes the fragile support systems within the group, revealing Dorit's vulnerabilities and Sutton's attempt to bridge gaps.

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3. Garcelle’s Personal Struggles and Identity

[07:15]
Garcelle Beauvais opens up about her personal journey, expressing her challenges in redefining her identity beyond motherhood and career. She poignantly states, “I know who I am as a mom, but I’m just having a hard time figuring out what's next for me as a woman.”

Ronnie:
“Garcelle’s honesty about her struggles adds depth to her character, showcasing the often-overlooked personal battles Housewives face.”

Garcelle's introspection offers listeners a glimpse into the pressures of balancing personal aspirations with societal expectations.

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4. Rumors and Relationship Dynamics: PK’s Interactions

[11:10]
The hosts delve into swirling rumors surrounding PK, a recurring figure in Dorit's life. Sutton accuses Dorit of favoritism and manipulation, insinuating, “PK's trying to fuck me,” which stirs speculation about PK's true intentions and Dorit's loyalties.

Ben:
“It’s like PK is reaching out to me all the time. What else would he be doing? You're putting that in people's heads.”

These allegations highlight the combustible mix of friendships and rivalries, where trust is easily fractured, and rumors can escalate tensions rapidly.

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5. Dorit’s New Relationship with Keely

[14:02]
Dorit introduces her new boyfriend, Keely, describing him as “very kind, successful, generous,” and “fine as hell.” She reflects on the difficulties of dating post-divorce, noting, “Dating has been really hard. They’re intimidated by me—maybe it’s my success or my height.”

Ronnie:
“Dorit’s new relationship adds another layer to the season's drama, introducing fresh dynamics and potential conflicts within the group.”

Keely's entrance into the narrative signifies Dorit’s attempt to move forward, yet her past and present relationships continue to intertwine, causing ripples among the Housewives.

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6. Sutton's Attempt at Unifying the Cast

[35:17]
Sutton makes a heartfelt attempt to foster unity among the group by initiating a sisterhood ceremony. She emphasizes the importance of trust and honesty, stating, “Trust and honesty come to mind as the backbone of real friendship and sisterhood.”

Ben:
“Sutton’s unifying gesture is met with skepticism and resistance, reflecting the fragmented relationships within the group.”

Despite Sutton's good intentions, the execution falls flat as underlying tensions resurface, questioning the feasibility of genuine camaraderie amidst ongoing conflicts.

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7. Recurring Tensions and Clashes Among Cast Members

[40:16]
Conflict escalates when Erica, another cast member, confronts Kyle about her perceived lack of respect and communication. The ensuing argument, filled with accusations and defensive retorts—Ben quips, “It's getting very annoying”—highlights the persistent discord that plagues the Housewives.

Ronnie:
“The relentless back-and-forth signifies that the emotional wounds among the cast are far from healed, ensuring that drama remains a staple of the season.”

These recurring clashes serve as a testament to the competitive and often antagonistic nature of reality TV relationships, where personal grievances are magnified for audience engagement.

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8. Conclusion: Overall Dynamics and Observations

Throughout this episode, Mandelker and Karam provide a keen analysis of the intricate web of relationships among RHOBH's cast members. They dissect moments of vulnerability, jealousy, and attempted reconciliation, offering insights into the dynamics that fuel the show's drama. Notable quotes, such as Garcelle's admission of identity struggles at [07:15] and Sutton's failed sisterhood effort at [35:17], encapsulate the emotional tumult that defines this season.

Ben:
“Watching these interactions, it's clear that while they put on a facade of friendship, the underlying currents of competition and personal strife are what keep viewers hooked.”

Ronnie:
“Indeed, the authenticity of their emotions—whether out of genuine conflict or scripted drama—adds layers to the Housewives’ portrayal, making each episode a compelling watch.”

Overall, this episode of Watch What Crappens offers listeners a thorough and engaging exploration of RHOBH Season 14, Episode 4, dissecting the nuanced performances and real-life-inspired tensions that continue to captivate audiences.

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Hi everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feature feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode.

[A]

So now they get some lobster. And it's like some wacky Jennifer Tilly with a lobster moment. Because Kathy's like, can you help me get some of this lobster out? She's like, I don't know, like, what you mean? With my fingernails?

[B]

Yeah, and that's like. And so I was like, you got this, Jennifer. You, Garcelle and Kyle. And they're down on. They're on a. Another deck. And Kyle's like, oh, my God. Look at these cute towels. Oh, my God. These are Hermes. Oh, my God. No one knows yet, right? They're Hermes. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Do they belong to the boat? Can I have them? Can I order them for delivery here? Do you think they'll take delivery? Can you postmate Hermes towels onto the ocean?

[A]

Maybe it's a gift from Kathy. What do I know? Well, I have a feeling that they belong to the boat. That's so annoying. Boat beat me. Can't believe I'm jealous of boat. I know.

[B]

Kyle's eyes. No, no, I mean, like, listen, you gotta hand it to her. She knows her brands. Cause she can spot them in a second.

[A]

Yeah, the new Hermain. And by the way, you know those went missing from the boat. Kyle's totally stole that shit.

[B]

No, she told. Don't Ronnie. She totally paid for them. Because don't forget from last season. I love shopping. That's my personality. I love to shop.

[A]

I can shop anywhere. Airports, gas stations. So now Garcelle and Kyle bond. Which is kind of funny, I guess. You know, it's funny because these people have been on the show for a long time together. Now, the current cast, most of them in this configuration have been around. But no one's really friends on this show. Like, it's crazy, right? I mean, we've seen a lot of shows that are like that. But Garcelle and Kyle aren't friends. But it's cute watching them pretend to like each other. I mean, I guess they don't hate each other, but they're not friends, right?

[B]

I don't think so. I think they get along.

[A]

But hey, they're allowed.

[B]

Good work colleagues.

[A]

Yeah, they're allowed to try. So they start talking. And then meanwhile, Dorit and Sutton are talking. And Sutton's like, now, I've been thinking about you. Now, what you're going through, it's really hard. And I've been there. And I want you to know you can lean on me a little bit. Just try to use less than seven accents at one time, because I just. My brain, it hurts. It hurts when I'm rammed you.

[B]

And she goes, you know, having been through my own separation and had a divorce, James was the same age as Jagger. So who. It kind of throws me back to that time. Now, of course, I stood to gain a lot more money than Dorit does from pk but, you know, I do see parallels in some kid. Parallels.

[A]

I get 350,000amonth, and Dorit owes $350,000 a month. But still, we do both have children with wieners who are around the same age. So now it is kind of sad for drink. Not really me. This is fun for me. But I digress.

[B]

Sure, that PK has diabetes. 4. But, like, it's pretty similar.

[A]

Basically the same thing. Now, Dorit has always declared her love for pk and I'm not sure if there's underlying serious tragedy in a love affair, but when that happens, some. Sometimes you just can't use your judgment completely. Okay, you know who else hasn't used their judgment completely? Actual judges. And that's going to be super fun when they get a hold of this couple. I'm actually really looking forward to that. What was I talking about? Me. We're talking about me, right? I'm bored. Could you just speed it along?

[B]

So you and Christian got. Got separated first? Well, we got separated. He filed for divorce, and then I just became richer than a pig in mud, which I don't know if that makes sense, but in the south, we just say that sort of stuff. Anyway, it just went to proceed, and it was like, three years. Well, the whole process took three years. Like, yes. And I'm going to tell you, you have to think, gosh, how old am I? And is this the face I want to have once I get out of this divorce?

[A]

Well, I just want peace, Sutton. Peace. And then we cut back to Carl. Carl, Garcelle. Hello.

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Yeah.

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So Garcelle and Kyle are talking, and Garcelle's like, well, I'm glad that you and Dorit, at least, you know, you guys are trying to work it out. I don't know. I just feel like it's all so hard talking to Dorit, that is. She's such an idiot. But either way, everybody's going through something.

[A]

You know, my boys are getting ready. For example, me and Kyle's like, oh, God, here we go. Here's a conversation that doesn't have to do with Me or me getting new Hermes house, but go ahead. I guess Kyle just kind of pulls at her hair like, oh, Jesus. And Garcelle's like, well, for me, I'm just trying to figure things out. My boys are getting ready to leave and I know who I am. Career wise, I'm Garcelle. I know who I am as a mom. I'm a mom. But I'm just having a hard time figuring out what's next for me as a woman. I feel like a black girl missing, if you will.

[B]

Do I need a partner? It's not. Is it not a partner? Is it just me finding out when I'm not working or have the kids? I mean, I just. I'm trying to figure it all out. Okay. Bravo. Are you happy there? It's a little personal story. Black girl missing, Part two, coming out on Lifetime. Part three, coming out on Lifetime. Part four, coming out on Lifetime. Just subscribe. Smash that, like, button and I'll see you on tv.

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I have opened up. You're welcome, America. And Kyle's like, it's scary when your kids leave. You know, like, like, you know, people say, like, that's like my whole life. You know, like, that was my whole identity. I mean, I'm a mom and I'm a wife. And like, I totally understand that. That's what I've been doing for years. You know, it's like, am I going to be alone? Like, that scares me. Like, it's really, really. Are you asleep? Oh, I'm so sorry. I. It's just the thing I do. It's meditation.

[B]

It's just like really hard. Like when your whole identity is like being a mom, being a wife, being someone who was on Little House on the Prairie once. It's just hard. And she's like, the idea someone who knows Laura Ingalls.

[A]

I just want to say it's really difficult being me right now.

[B]

I don't know, I'm just like really nursing these emotions because I was a nurse on ER once. So it's just a lot. It's a lot to have.

[A]

I mean, it's really hard. When you were the one that knew George Clooney before, he was extremely hot. But, you know, I guess we just all mature differently than others.

[B]

It's kind of funny, like. Cause we first met when he was on the Facts of Life. He's sort of like a different person then. But like, our friendship goes like, really, really. I wasn't on Facts of Life. I was on a spino called the Opinions of Death. It didn't really work out so well.

[A]

Oh, Kyle. No, Kyle.

[B]

That's a lie and we all know it.

[A]

No, Kyle. So then back to Dorit. She's like, well, she's feeling so grateful because she got a wave of support from someone that she never would have expected from, which is Sutton. And Sutton's like, I mean, I don't know if you are going to get divorced, but if that's the road, then, girl, I'm sitting in that room with you. I'm going to go there. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Okay, you need somebody. I'm going to go.

[B]

What. What type of room is this that we're actually sitting in?

[A]

A Gongo?

[B]

I don't.

[A]

Gongo.

[B]

I don't know, but if it has a vending machine, you're in luck, because my. My son knows how to service those.

[A]

I like that. She say, I'm going to go. Because that's what I tell Bueller all the time. I say, hey, are you gon go potty? And then I start calling him Gongo. I don't know why I think that's so funny, but just hearing someone say, I'm gonco.

[B]

It's sort of in the realm of, you're a cool guy, Kingston.

[A]

You're a cool guy. That's what I tell Bueller when I'm waiting for him to poop. Gongo. Gongo. So then Garcelle and Kyle are now talking about Mo, And Kyle's like, oh, he's good. He came over on Mother's Day, and we went to the market and he cooked. It was nice.

[B]

You know, it's interesting that she said that Mo and PK are so connected. And that's odd. It's. It's ironic that they are and you guys aren't. Also ironic that you allegedly know how to cook salmon and yet you never cook. Whenever you talk about cooking. So.

[A]

Well, what about PK Reaching out to me? That was pretty odd, right?

[B]

Okay, now that's interesting. Isn't that interesting?

[A]

See, Kyle's like, oh, I'm going to tell Garcelle this, because for sure, Garcelle will immediately take this to Sutton and.

[B]

Dorit, you know, but also, like, all season, Kyle has been talking about how she and PK are constantly, like, joking and texting and whatever, but here she frames it like, oh, PK is reaching out to her. But, like, all season, am I miss. Am I. Am I incorrect in remembering this? She's making it sound like she reaches out to PK not Even like, oh, he's reaching out to me. It's like they both just text each other and joke, and she said, I'm closer with PK than I am with Dorit. She said these things?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And so now she's going to make it sound like, oh, how inappropriate it is. Like, the implication is, oh, PK is reaching out to.

[A]

PK's trying to fuck me. And, you know, it's because Kyle never lets anything go. And the whole rumor was for the past couple of years that Mauricio and Dorit were fucking, and it's made Kyle fucking crazy. And now here comes Kyle to start a rumor that PK is trying to fuck her so she can get one up under. I mean, it's just so her. It is so her. And I'm just starting to enjoy it at this point because, I mean, I've never seen anybody be more themselves. I mean, here she is in the scene where she's sobbing, talking about this very relatable thing of growing old and not really understanding what your place is in this world, only to lead up to suggesting that Dorit's husband's trying to bang her.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's so evil.

[B]

Yeah. Or, I mean, even if it's not. Even if it's not as cynical as that, as, like. As like, implying the fuckery, which is. I'm not discounting it. I definitely think that's there. It's still just because she knows this will hurt and upset to read, at the very least, the base going too far.

[A]

But a guy that's not too far.

[B]

I'm just saying, like, that's more like.

[A]

PK's, like, reaching out to me all the time. I mean, what else was. What else would a guy like pk, you know, like, you're putting that in people's heads.

[B]

Yeah. I don't think what you're saying is too far, but I'm saying even if that weren't true at the very base level, like, you start at a level of like, this is going to piss off to read that PK is reaching out to me and that I'm also talking with him, you know, so.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. And she's telling Garcelle, Dorit's biggest enemy on the show. So she's. And Garcelle, of course, is like, what he does. Hold on. Did you guys get that? Because that was on my greatest hits album. What?

[B]

No. So then Dorit is telling Sutton, I am very protective of myself right now and who I trust. And. Yeah. So then now we go back to the lunch table, and Jennifer is talking to Bo's, and she's like, so who are we going to meet? Your man. Like, what's his name again? And Bo's like, keely. Ooh, Keely. Oh, okay. Keely. That sounds like a nice name.

[A]

That's what happens. That's what happens to dorit when he has too much butter on his potato.

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[A]

God, what a delicious combo. So she's talking about her man, and she's like, oh, keely, that's my man. That's my man. My man. We've been dating for eight months. So she tells us about this guy, and we see a picture. He's hot. And she says, he's very kind, successful, generous and fine as hell. And it was rough after her husband died because she had to focus on herself and her child and her career stuff. And dating has been really hard. Like, they're intimidated by her. You know, she's like, I don't know if it's by my success. Maybe it's my height, maybe it's my kid. Maybe it's a feather boa that I wear to every date.

[B]

She's like, you know, there are certain relation. And now in this relationship, there are certain things that I'm tuned into that I'm looking for because recently I was completely lied to and completely fooled. And she says that the last guy she was dating was a liar and a con artist. She's like, Erica's like, well, how did you find that out? She goes, well, my simple question was, is he sleeping with his ex? And he turned to me and looked me in the face and said, yes.

[A]

So that's not really conning you. I mean, he was honest. But look at me standing up for the random guy.

[B]

Maybe here's a con artist, just a bad con artist.

[A]

This is a con artist who admits everything right up front. I said, are you trying to take my money? And he said, yes, damn it. Here's the thing. I want her to get back together with the con artist because why would you break up with a con artist? Right before you go on. Bravo. You're supposed to be with a con artist. Have you seen dorit? Look at all the mileage. Dorit's gotten off of it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Come on, man. Who taught you this game?

[B]

Yeah, but her new man is really hot. So that, you know, that'll. That will definitely lead to some sort of chaos. Yeah, you just can't. You just, like it just doesn't work out like a. Like a hot guy of a certain age in la. It's. It's gonna go downhill.

[A]

So Jennifer till. Basically Bose and Jennifer both get to talk now. Cause the other suckers of air in the room, Kyle and Dorit, are off doing other things. So Jennifer takes over Bose's thing and she's like, well, when you're honest, you don't understand why someone would be making all of these lies. So I understand completely. I too was with a con man. And she says that he told her he was gonna be in Vanity Fair and he's gonna have a big billboard on Sunset Boulevard with his face on it.

[B]

What are you dating? Please tell me it was Chaz Dean.

[A]

What's a Chaz Dean?

[B]

She's like, you know, he was actually a fairly successful interior designer, but he was a grifter. And we would go out to restaurants and I would hand him my credit card under the table and he would pretend he was paying for the dinners. It was odd because it was a Bart Simpson credit card, but, you know, he just said that he did interior design for Springfield. Anyway, he was a grifter.

[A]

So Bozo's like, I don't understand that behavior. Can someone explain it to me? And Dorit comes back like grifters.

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Can someone explain grifters to me? Oh, here comes Dorit.

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Literally, Jennifer designed for Beverly Beach.

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So they're going to go back to the hotel. And Sutton's still talking about how the captain's cute, even though I don't know. To me, he looks sort of like a low rent Jimmy Connors, like, meets like a bar of soap. But seems. I'm like, Like, I don't know. I don't. I don't see why something's so hot to trot for this guy.

[A]

I think Sutton sometimes is just like, you know what I'm gonna do today? Pretend I have a beaten heart. Let's go.

[B]

Yes, that's a good. That's.

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That's.

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That's a. That's a good assessment. So she's gonna write down her. Give him. She's gonna slip him the number. She's gonna give it to Dorit to give the guy. And so then Kathy is like, thank you, Captain, whoever you are. I'm Kathy Hilton. And by the way, can you give Sudden some help because her leg is bad, so maybe you could carry her down. It's kind of a thing that we do. We just carry her everywhere like she's Ariana Grande. Okay, go ahead.

[A]

She probably would have been able to walk off this boat herself. But the barbecue was terrible.

[B]

So she's ill from barbecue that was cooked solely on the bottom rack. I told you, I told you.

[A]

So he does carry her and so it's like, oh well, I guess I'm being carried right now. And if you're single, she's interested. So we get this wacky giving of the number stuff. And so Dorit goes turn around and weave Sutton, is he looking at you? She's like, no, stop it. Well, I like that she turned though. He didn't even stand there to look after her. Come on man, it's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappin's commercial.

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So Kathy is sitting there, you know, in a typical Kathy pose, just like back in a chair, like, Kyle, Kyle, did you see that? I have slippers that say doogie. It's very popular. Kyle, Kyle, do me a favor. Would you put some makeup on me?

[B]

Kyle, I have a question. I want to say something. I want to say something. I just had a thought. Ronnie, that has nothing to do with this Brazil impersonation you're doing. I'm watching movie Brazil. Um, you know what occurred to me? We're here at the end of this little mini vacay. The vacay was built by Kathy. She took them all out there, but the point was that she wanted to promote her bucket hats, and she gave them all a bucket hat. I don't know. Am I a little crazy to think it's a bit rude that not a single person put on the bucket hat? Dorit even put on a different bucket hat. Like, I feel like at least they should do some silly thing where they're like, okay, guys, let's do a Kathy Hilton bucket hat lunch where they always wear it together because they all know they look ridiculous. But if they all do it together, it's a funny gag. It's like when they put the bonnets on for Salt Lake City. They didn't even do that. And I have to say, shame on this cast. This lady just gave you a free bucket hats. But also a whole weekend at this, you know, like, pretty decent seaside place. So.

[A]

So that's her thing. She's selling the bucket hats?

[B]

Yeah, those are her bucket hats.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Like, okay. You know, I mean, they wouldn't, like, given that they. That they really, like, were pretty rude about her tequila last time. This would be a good maker. Like, just have fun with it. I'm like, I know that they get their glam and the bucket hats are going to, you know, smash in their hair, but I'm sorry. I would have worn the bucket hat for at least a meal.

[A]

Yeah, they should have done it at, like, the beach. The beach day thing, you know, where they had to be out in the sun all day or something. Yeah, I can see that. I think probably they just figure, fuck this lady. She's worth hundreds of millions of dollars and doesn't have to do any thing. So her. Yeah, I don't know. So Kathy is in bed while Kyle's applying loss to her lips. And it's like, I'm going to do it lightly. And Kathy's like, okay, but which one is that, Kyle? Which one? What's the name of the collar? What is that? I don't know. I have to get ready. So I think Kathy's just holding a fan to her face, lying in bed.

[B]

And then Sutton is writing a speech, which is weird. The lady, and she's like, okay, I'm writing the speech. And the person who's with her, she's like, that. You're writing a speech for dinner? She's like, huh? She's like, well, that's a long speech. It's like, it's not that long. She's like, no, it's a very long winded speech. She's like, excuse me, you are a glam team person, not the editor of the New yorker.

[A]

She looks at her like she's going to kill her. And the makeup lady does not give a fuck. She's like, yeah, it's long. It's long. So sentence. Like, after watching this vicious fight between Kyle to dorit and then talking to Dorit on the boat, I think it's time for us all to come together and just. We need to feel supported, especially dorit. It's like, you know dorit is going to turn on you in about two seconds, right?

[B]

And we're going to see it.

[A]

Dorit does not like you.

[B]

Yeah. So they go to this rooftop bar, and Jennifer's like, hello, girls. Oh, look at you. How fabulous. As always. And then Bose shows up and it's.

[A]

Literally Beverly Hills hello.

[B]

I don't know why I'm trying to even.

[A]

Hello, hello. It's like 10 minutes of hello, pretty.

[B]

Hello, hello, hello, hello. Okay, so then Kyle's taking pictures of bows. She takes actually a really amazing photo of bows. I was like, how do you take that with an iPhone? That photo was amazing. Did you see that?

[A]

I found some amazing photos, sir.

[B]

I know, but that was amazing. I'll give. I'll give Kyle Richards credit. She took a very good photo. Good job.

[A]

She's also got bows as her per. As her subject. I mean, good lord, that woman is like, perfect. Hair and makeup, like a feather bow. Whatever the hell she had, she doesn't. She wasn't wearing a feather boa, but everything she wears is feather boa. Inspired, you know?

[B]

Yeah. It always feels like there's one on her. You know, it's like when. You know, when someone. You know, when people talk about, like, you know, tall person energy or short person energy or. It's like you always think that, you know, when you have, like, a friend who's always taller than you expect, I always forget you're that tall. You know, it's like that, but with boas. It's like I always forget that you weren't wearing a boa that night.

[A]

So they start talking about nude pictures and stuff. And, like, do you send your. Do you send naked pictures of yourself to Rick when you're away? Kathy and Erica's like, oh, hell yeah. Well, I mean, no, not to Rick. Sorry. The guy who looks like Rush Limbaugh. Are we talking to me yet? I wanted to say something here at Costa.

[B]

God, no. I Send pictures, nude pictures to Rick. But it's Rick D's, so it's a whole different story.

[A]

Rick Moranis. God, getting that guy hard on the real gold medal, let me tell you. He's still alive, right?

[B]

So. Yes, he is. Kathy says, listen, he wouldn't be the.

[A]

First ghost I've given a boner to.

[B]

I send my nudes to ghosts named Rick. It's weird. It's a weird process, but it works. Kathy says that they have. They have some nude photos that they keep in a safe in the bank.

[A]

She keeps it in the bank vault.

[B]

So, you know, you're cracking up at.

[A]

That because that is hilarious.

[B]

When you're horny and you want to get off, just go down to the bank and fill out a form, Wait five minutes, go into your bank, find the box, remember to the jewelry, go through the envelope, get the nude picture, go home, jerk off, then come back and redeposit it into the bank. It's simple, really.

[A]

Rick is just arrested one day for lewd public conduct or whatever. It's like in the Wells Fargo jerking it. So Kathy's like, oh, yeah, in Caesar's palace in Vegas, they have those beds and they have big mirrors on them. It's very sexy. Very, very sex. So now the salad's come, and I don't know why she makes me laugh so hard, but everything she says and nothing is particularly funny, but it's just that she goes, wow, you have panzanella salad. My favorite type of salad.

[B]

I know. For some reason it was funny to me that they serve panzanella salad to this group. First of all, a salad that has, like, an emphasis. Hilarious red salad.

[A]

Hell, yeah. It's everybody's favorite salad.

[B]

It's a delicious salad. I love the on it, by the way. Hot tip. Ina Garden has a great panzanella recipe, and she also has a great Greek panzanella recipe. I am Greek.

[A]

Just so you know.

[B]

Just a little hot tip for everyone has. There's no joke there of just literally helping people. Just, I want to help people this holiday season with panzanella hot tips.

[A]

Also, here's another tip. You can make any salad a panzanella salad by throwing toast in it. Yeah, I always.

[B]

Doesn't it feel like panzanella is should be the name of someone who joins the Real Housewives?

[A]

Yes. It's like a fresh divorce storyline. Just trying to find her way in the world.

[B]

Panza. Panzanella Wertheimer. She's like, yes, well, my husband, he actually invented tic tacs. But you know, unfortunately, he also invented cheating.

[A]

So the chef comes out and announces the meal and all that good st. And, you know, a lot of small talk. And why does Garcelle look so good? Is she getting some? And she's like, no, I'm in love with my life. And Garcelle's like, oh, yep, she don't have a man. And Garcelle says, I would rather be alone than be on a date in a kitty sweater talking about my neuro. Neuropathy. Fuck that one up. I almost called it neuropathy.

[B]

What?

[A]

I call it Ron.

[B]

And we see a flashback of Sutton at the surly goat. So Garcelle's like, well, bon appetit. Oh, by the way, Dorit. Bon. Bon appa. Dorit. That was a joke. No. No in advance. I'm saying no in advance. Whatever you're about to say to read. But I have a question. You reposted something Teddy wrote.

[A]

Kathy's like, what happened? Well, Teddy tagged me in a post for oh, what's her buttons? Dorit's like, well, Teddy tagged me in a post promoting her dad's concert.

[B]

And Kathy's like, oh, I don't. I don't. I don't follow her. I don't know what's going on. And Kyle's like, no, it was. It was a video of all of us singing on stage with her dad, who we're not gonna mention. It's like, you can say his name. John Cougar Mellencamp. It's okay. You can say it. So we see that Garcelle, two hours earlier, Garcelle's talking to Sutton and showing her the video. And she's like, look, she reposted Teddy Mellencamp's post with him in it. Sutton's like, well, you know, Dorit can be very contradictory, and I don't think she understands who she is anymore. Posting John Cougar Mellencamp videos while she's going through a divorce. I mean, I've never seen such horrific behavior in my life.

[A]

Well, she tagged me like I would. Ordinary. Ordinary. I just reposted it. Garcelle's like, well, when we talked about her earlier, you said you weren't friends with her. Hold on, everybody. Dun, dun, dun. What do you think about that?

[B]

This is, I feel like, not a strong case by Garcelle, but I'm enjoying it.

[A]

So she's like, it's a terrible case, but it's funny watching her come for Dorit for no reason.

[B]

Yeah. This is in an episode of 10 or season of tenuous, Tenuous excuses to be mad at people. I was like, you know what, garcelle? Get in the ring. Why not? So she's like, well, I wanted to call out dorit because it's such a hypocritical move. All of a sudden, she wants to help teddy's dad. This is a story about jack and a hypocrite.

[A]

Well, I didn't say I wasn't friends with her. I said, I'm not that close to here. So we see a flower back to kyle saying, excuse me, we're all close with her. Well, I'm not close with her. Oh, now you're not close with her. Oh, really? Oh, really? Oh, interesting. Oh, interesting. Which, you know that she immediately called teddi and said, you will not believe dorit said she wasn't even close to you. And then teddi purposely sent this thing and tagged dorit to see if dorit would retweet it. Cause, you know, we all know how teddy thinks. And dorit fell right into it.

[B]

She's like, no. I said, she is absolutely my friend. And I don't think she would characterize our friendship as that. We're super close. But I was surprised that she tagged me. But I saw it was to promote her father, who happens to be a big cat who can sing named cougar. And I am happy to promote her father's concert. So I reposted it.

[A]

Hmm. Do we really think that grammy winner john mellencamp needs to read support on instagram? I do not think so. Yes. I think that anybody in entertainment wants a retweet.

[B]

Anyone does. Was dorit up there singing too, or was it just kyle and teddy? I don't.

[A]

I think it was. That whole group probably went up there and.

[B]

Yeah, probably all of them.

[A]

But also, I don't think it was really to promote him. I think dorit's full of too. I think she retweeted it because she's on stage singing with john mellencamp. Why wouldn't she?

[B]

But no, I think this whole thing brings up.

[A]

Was doris.

[B]

I don't remember. But, like, honestly, if I'm sure she was because teddy tagged her. I don't think teddy's going to tag dorit in a video that dorit's not in, to be totally honest. But I think this all brings up an interesting point, which is. Sorry, it's a. It's a twofold point. One point is that it is kind of rich that dorit was so mad at kyle for. For downplaying their relationship. And now Dorit is doing that to Teddy. But on the other hand, I actually kind of believe Dari on this one. I do believe that they're friends, but not as close as Kyle and Kyle and Teddy are. I think it's also rich that Kyle is here defending Teddy's honor, saying how terrible it is that Dorita is downgrading their friendship when Kyle herself flagrantly did this to Dorit.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. That's a good point. Yeah. It's like, how dare you? So sounds like. Hang on. I have something for us to do. Really, guys? You gonna do it? You gonna do it? Well, what? So she's like, okay, we need to. We need to stand. Everybody stand. I have a ribbon. And we're gonna put it around our hands, and we're gonna be real sisters. Okay, everybody, we're gonna. I'm gonna read a speech. Like, oh, Jesus. Come on. Damn.

[B]

So we see a flashback. She was like, look. She was saying, like, you know. You know, we need to all do this because, you know, last year in Spain, that meant a lot to me when we did our little ceremonial thing about letting things go. Mainly just Mer. And by letting go, I meant just, like, spreading him all over your dresses. We see a flashback to that. And so now Sutton's, like, looking at her phone to read her speech, but she's like, oh, God, I can't read. Okay, gotta. Okay, gotta read. And so they all start to laugh because it's funny. She's having this big moment, but she can't read her speech. And they all start snickering, and Sun's like, y'all, stop it. Stop it right now. Okay? This is gonna be a special moment between sisters.

[A]

We are sisters. But look around. I mean, you've got the Hilton sister sitting here. I don't think that this is a place to talk about how special sisterhood is when these two are fucking each other over constantly. But also, Sutton making herself in charge of everybody being friends is like, Dorit putting herself in charge of the fraud department. Like, what are you gonna get? Vest. A vest for her that's like. What do they call that at Ross Dressed for Less? Where they're like, like, loss prevention. What, are you gonna make her the president of loss prevention? Come on.

[B]

And Buzz is like, oh, so it comes from her heart, but she can't remember. Okay, so they're making fun, and even. Even Jennifer is like, no, it comes from the hat. And then you can see it. So sounds like, okay, y'all, I really mean what I wrote, even if my hair and makeup team did not appreciate it. And I thought about it, and I want. I want to think. I want you to think about it, too, because trust and honesty comes to mind as the backbone of real friendship and sisterhood and knowing people like Dolce and Gabbana. Okay, friendships are not perfect. There are many ups. There are many downs. You have to deal with Dorit. Sorry, Dorit, but twists and turns. We're all in this together in a sisterhood.

[A]

I'm sorry, but are we in cheer camp? Are we in Girl Scout camp? Are we in Browning camp? Nancy Drew camp? Catholic girl school? Do you guys have anything that you can edit in there yet?

[B]

Are there any more camps?

[A]

So let's put our palms together in solitary. A friendship. And so they put their hands in the center, and she puts, like, a blue ribbon over them. And Rose is like, I don't know what kind of incantations Sutton's saying under her breath to tie us together, but I don't want to be Ms. Sutton.

[B]

True, solid friendships always stand the test of time. And I really want this to be our year. That we really buy.

[A]

I'm sorry I messed that up. She was saying she. That it's like Sutton's trying to marry them. She's like, I don't want to be Mrs. Sutton. Sorry. It was very important to get that right.

[B]

Thank you for clarifying us. That's what a true solid friend does, is clarify things for other friends.

[A]

And you did that when we need things clarified.

[B]

This is a sisterhood that clarifies things all the time. Okay, hands in the middle. Okay. 2, 4, 6, 8. Who do we appreciate? Not Kyle. I'll tell you that much, because she doesn't call back. Anyway, I'm taking this ribbon. Okay? Now, by the way, can someone please make sure that the eagle woman is watching so I can do what she failed to do, which is bring us all together? Okay, great.

[A]

From now on, we are sisters, and we are not going to fight anymore. We're only going to be nice to each other. Even Ding dong over there, right, Dorit? And Dorit's like, well, I really hope this rabbit does what Sutton wants, because May I'll have to use it to strangle one of these ladies after. Got one. Ding, ding, ding, ding for the ding a ling, eh?

[B]

Okay, is everyone tied together? Kyle, did you just insert Teddy's hand into this? Hi, I'm Teddy. Can I be part of it?

[A]

No. So the next day, the women pack their clothes and start going to Beverly Hills. You know, want to Go back to Beverly Hills. And basically, that's it. It's the end of the trip, right? So then Sutton starts to pour herself some vodka, and Erica's like, whoa, whoa, girl. Wait a minute. She's stressed.

[B]

Yeah. And they're getting into the sprinter van because they're gonna go back to Beverly Hills now. And they're like, all. They're all gathering together, and they're saying that's like. It's like musical chairs. Whatever. So this. This is the vodka. Point of the vodka in. Sorry. I was behind, and Kyle is like, my God, I am ready to start drinking again. So it. Y'all. I gotta tell y'all something. I really did not sleep that well last night. And I. I really like that, you know, that we did the thing, but, like, y'all mocked my ritual.

[A]

Well, we didn't know you were serious. I like the ritual personally. And so it's like, really? But the point I wanted to make. We can have disagreements. Oh, my God, it's over. Let it die already. We have disagreements, and we can be truthful with one another if you're honest and open. I'm sorry, but that's trademarked. And it's open and honest. Honest and open. All from Dorit Kingsley.

[B]

Is it not honest and open? No. No. I'm just gonna say no. Blanket. No.

[A]

So, well, let's talk about being honest and open. So Dorit's like, okay, let's do it. Well, there was a moment when you, Erica, kind of whispered something to Kyle. You were just talking about everybody getting along, and now you're immediately gonna start shouting in the car.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So then we see a flashback of Erica turning to Kyle while Garcelle was talking about the Teddy thing and saying, I don't think she said that. I don't think she ever said that they weren't friends. That's not what she said last night. Sounds like. So Erica's talking behind Dorit's back to Kyle in this stage whisper. And I feel very awkward being in a group of friends who are going to talk about you behind your back. Weren't you just talking with Garcelle about PK reaching out to whoever? I mean, give me a break.

[B]

But also, like, what? Also, why didn't you bring this up at the table right then and there before your ribbon ceremony? So it could have been, like, you could have left it in the past. So Sutton's like, well, you said it quietly. And her go's like, well, you thought it. And she goes, but I just wish you had said it louder. Okay. Real friends don't use stage whispers. They do either real whispers or real full voice.

[A]

Yeah. This is also tenuous, this whole. This whole thing.

[B]

I know they're. They're grasping, but it's, like, really working for me. It's because it's so. It's so petty. And Dorit's like, well, I just want to clarify this, because I don't remember exactly what. What I said, because, you know, it was. I was in the. You know, Kyle and I are doing this, and I remember saying that I consider Teddy as a friend. Like, that annoying friend, you know, it's like when Nermal shows up at Garfield and you're like, ugh, it's Nermel. But I guess we're friends, you know? But I wouldn't characterize us as close friends.

[A]

I mean, we're friends, but, like, friends on the Facebook, not real friends. She's not one of my follows, if that makes any sense. So then we see a flashback to this argument about Teddy, and Kyle's saying, excuse me, the same thing. We're all close with her. I'm not close with her. And she says, her and I are friends and we're not close. And then Kyle says, interesting. Very, very interesting. So we're back, and Kyle's like, I mean, this isn't even about Teddy, really. Well, it wasn't about her. Well, it is about her. No, this was about Erica saying something behind someone else's back. No, this is about me not being close to Teddy. No, this is about me not ever getting the respect that I deserve, even though I'm going through more than anybody ever in life.

[B]

No, this is about Teddy. Teddy Ruxpin. I sent him a nude. Also, you want to see a ghost.

[A]

Teddy bear get a boner. You should see him open my mouth. My. My dick pic.

[B]

Five nights at Freddy's. How about five nights at Teddy's? Wow, that bear can lay it down. So Garcella's like. Like. She's like, well, Dorit doesn't get that it's not about Teddy, and it's about that we should be able to call each other out, work through it, and move on. It's not about Teddy. Although I bet Teddy would be thrilled.

[A]

I think. There she is. So Dorit's, like, sitting. I was the one explaining to you. I knew exactly what this is about. Do not confuse, ma'am. Do not yell at me like that. I know exactly what your con. You started the healing. You're the one who just started.

[B]

Yeah, no, I Tried to bring this group together last night. Okay? I went to Michael's. I went to some place called Michael's, and I bought a ribbon. Okay? That is called unification.

[A]

Did Timmy fall down the well? Old yellow.

[B]

Okay, I don't think I'm getting my point across. And that is why I am saying I felt like I really needed to hit it home.

[A]

I don't know if I want to be in this group anymore. I'm just gonna have a drink of this. So, Kathy, that's your eyebrow brush.

[B]

Oh, Well, I guess it wasn't a straw. This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say you never know which Sutton is gonna show up. This is a very different woman to the woman on the boat who wanted to be there for me. Different mode of transportation, different woman.

[A]

Okay, okay, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. So I think the whole thing is that we should be able to say anything in front of anybody and know that it will be received well. It may not be received well, but we're going to be open and honest. Thank you. Thank you. Trademark. Thank you.

[B]

So Dorit is like, okay, well, if we're being open and honest, it's a pattern where you will jump and yell at me, and if I match your tone, it's. Oh, God, don't yell at me.

[A]

Oh, God. You know what? No, no, I'm not gone. Not gone. Mm. Mm. Not gone.

[B]

It's getting old. It's getting very, very old. Like Kyle's hands. Very, very old.

[A]

Well, I'm sorry that I'm annoying to you. I'm so sorry that I'm annoying to you.

[B]

It's getting very annoying.

[A]

Well, I'm not the one who is backpedaling and creating all this chaos. You were not gonna do it.

[B]

Oh, now you're acting like a child.

[A]

Can we just get on a plane? Go. Just go. Oh, you go on the plane. So Sutton ends up crushed at the end of her sisterhood episode. So stupid.

[B]

Disaster.

[A]

What a dumb show. I don't know. Now, I don't know how to explain how nothing really happens on this show, but it's entertaining. But then nothing happens on New York, and it's not. Even though we're gonna disagree about that in the next hour. But I mean, in general. I know. I don't mean this episode. I just mean in general.

[B]

Yeah, no, I agree, but I don't.

[A]

I don't have the answer. You know what I mean?

[B]

Because I think that these. These women on their own are maybe inherently more interesting or they just like. Like nothing like, even on the old New York, nothing could happen. And it was interesting because they're just. Their interactions over something trivial were very funny and interesting. But, like, when you have people like Bryn Whitfield, I mean, it's the worst.

[A]

But also I believe these people. You know what I mean? Like, Kyle, I think is one of the fakest, dumbest housewives. Not dumbest, but she's the fakest, most manipulative, I think of a lot of housewives I don't find. You know, we all know what I feel about Kyle. I don't need to go off on Kyle. But I do believe that she's being real. I don't think she's faking it.

[B]

I think she believes her truth.

[A]

Yeah, that whole scene where she was crying about how getting older and being alone and like worrying about what it's going to be like now that she's realizing, like, I could be alone, you know, like, I may not love Kyle, but I felt like that was totally real. You know what I mean? And Sutton's all Sutton's weird insecurities and stuff like that. And Garcelle, I mean, Garcelle doesn't do a ton on this show, but I think that is. I think that her whole life is work and making fun and snarky comments, you know, I kind of believe all of them. Whereas I think on sometimes other shows are just trying to make something happen and they don't have anything going on, you know?

[B]

Yeah, I agree. I agree.

[A]

Well, I love that. It's my favorite phrase.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

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Becomes the mastermind behind two of the.

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Biggest pop groups in the world, the Backstreet Boys and Insane. He also oversees a sprawling business empire.

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That includes a charter jet company, restaurants, and real estate.

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But Perlman's successful facade crumbles after he's.

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Sued by the boy bands for siphoning millions from them, and soon investigators discover.

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That Perlman is keeping his empire afloat.

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Through an even more devious scheme.

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