#2658 RHOBH S1405 Part One: Into the Lion’s Denim

Summary

Watch What Crappens: Episode #2658 – RHOBH S1405 Part One: Into the Lion’s Denim

Released on December 18, 2024

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Introduction

In the latest episode of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve deep into the tumultuous drama of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 14, Episode 5, aptly titled "Into the Lion’s Denim." As always, Ben and Ronnie provide their signature blend of praise, ridicule, and insightful commentary on the unfolding events within the RHOBH universe.

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Personal Updates and Podcast Promotions [02:46 – 06:03]

Before diving into the RHOBH discussion, Ben and Ronnie share personal anecdotes. Ben mentions his enthusiasm for an upcoming HGTV-inspired deck project, hinting at a mini-show he’s creating: “I’m gonna do my own little mini HGTV show on a deck. I’m gonna call it Lights My Big Gay Deck something” [03:23]. Ronnie teases the launch of their 2025 tour, encouraging listeners to purchase tickets and supporting their Patreon for exclusive content and video recaps.

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Recap of RHOBH S14E05: High Horses and Low Blows [06:03 – 26:55]

Kyle Richards’ Diamonds and Denim Party

The episode centers around Kyle Richards hosting her "Diamonds and Denim" party, a grand event meant to showcase her personal style and social standing. Ben praises the episode’s humor, especially Kyle’s interactions: “Kyle's, you know, just when you think Kyle might be getting an original personality… now she is dating a country star” [07:18]. The hosts highlight Kyle’s penchant for drama, noting her tactic of bringing Camille Grammer to stir the pot against Dorit Kemsley: “so she invites Camille Grammer to a party because she knows that Camilla Grammar will go after Dorit” [08:54].

Jennifer Tilly’s Domestic Comedy

Jennifer Tilly provides comic relief with her interactions with Jeff, her butler-like assistant. Ben humorously critiques Jeff’s incompetence: “Cause he’s like, I don’t know where the wine glasses are. Which, this is why he can’t be employed anywhere else” [16:25]. Despite Jeff’s shortcomings, Ronnie finds his attempts endearing: “Chocolate does not last in and near me for amazing duration of time” [15:09].

Garcelle Beauvais’ U-Haul Antics

Garcelle Beauvais introduces a subplot involving a U-Haul truck, adding to the episode’s layers of humor and chaos. Ben comments on Sutton’s surprising competence behind the wheel: “She seemed really comfortable with it. She was just like tootling down the highway with it” [41:40], while Ronnie underscores the comedic potential of a Beverly Hills star handling a U-Haul: “I have never driven a U-Haul and I think I'd be scared to” [41:58].

Dorit Kemsley and Sutton’s Feud

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the escalating feud between Dorit Kemsley and Sutton Stracke. Ronnie expresses frustration with the ongoing drama: “Can you believe this giant feud I’m in with Dorit? When they just, like, Dorit popped off in the sprinter van” [46:56]. Ben criticizes Sutton’s overhyping of the conflict: “That is Sutton. She’s really overhyping her stupid feud that nobody cares about” [47:31]. The hosts dissect the layers of tension, highlighting Sutton’s attempts at fostering sisterhood while inadvertently intensifying conflicts.

Erica’s Therapist Visits and Personal Struggles

Erica, another central figure, deals with personal issues and therapy sessions. Ronnie empathizes with Erica’s struggles: “It feels funny, like, having my first party alone without Mo being” [26:07], while Ben humorously relates to the frustration of dealing with everyday problems: “I’m gay, so” [37:14]. The hosts discuss Erica's attempts to create a sanctuary at her new $2.3 million house, juxtaposing her serene intentions with the underlying chaos: “It’s cute. It’s such a cute house” [51:27].

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Notable Quotes and Highlights

• Ben Mandelker [03:23]: “I’m gonna do my own little mini HGTV show on a deck. I’m gonna call it Lights My Big Gay Deck something.”

• Ronnie Karam [08:54]: “It's easy for us to like go through the cast list and see who's new, who's a villain… but sometimes the things like fights, moments and quotes, those can be really hard for us to remember.”

• Jennifer Tilly [17:19]: “She's always spilling stuff. I think we got it. Put that right there.”

• Ronnie Karam [46:56]: “I don't think Dorit had anything to do with that robbery, but I think someone did. And I think Dorit just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.”

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Hosts' Analysis and Insights

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie offer sharp insights into the characters' motivations and behaviors. They scrutinize Kyle’s manipulative tactics, Jennifer’s comedic yet hapless assistant, and Garcelle’s exuberant personality. The hosts also explore the authenticity of the sisterhood portrayed on the show, questioning whether true unity exists or if underlying tensions persist.

Ben remarks on the facade maintained by the cast: “Every door is like a mall entrance. My front door in Texas looks like a mall entrance. It’s ridiculous” [44:30], highlighting the superficial glamour that often masks deeper conflicts.

Ronnie emphasizes the cyclical nature of RHOBH drama: “We all say things under our breasts. So, so stupid,” pointing out the recurring themes of gossip and confrontation [34:40].

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Conclusion

As Watch What Crappens wraps up Part One of their extensive recap, Ben and Ronnie leave listeners eager for more insights in Part Two. Their blend of humor, critical analysis, and affectionate mockery provides a comprehensive and entertaining perspective on the latest RHOBH developments. Whether you’re a seasoned fan or new to the series, this episode offers a thorough and engaging overview of the intricate dynamics at play in The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 14.

Stay tuned for Part Two, where Ben and Ronnie will continue unpacking the drama and delivering their unique take on the Housewives’ escapades.

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?

[Ben Mandelker]

Good. Welcome to the house you've built. How are things over there today?

[Ronnie Karam]

Things are quite good over here. It's a little warm here in Los Angeles, so I'm enjoying our warm December day. How are things going with you?

[Ben Mandelker]

So good. I'm having an HGTV day over here. I've got a crew in the back doing Deck the Deck. So I'm gonna do my own little mini HGTV show on a deck. I'm gonna call it Lights My Big Gay Deck something. I'll go out there and shoot them to it. They're so cute and they're all doing such a good job. I can't wait to show you. And so that's been fun. And then that's it. Otherwise, just keeping up with these housewives. Girl, these shows are so funny. Beverly Hills was so funny last night. I was dying laughing at this show. So good. Really well done. Beverly Hills has been good. It's been fine this season. It's always good. I like this show. Well, it's not always good, let's face it. But it's been pretty good. But last night it was like, oh, this show. Still got it. It was really, really good last night.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, well, the way that I make sure that I enjoy it even more is that I watch New York first and then that really makes Beverly Hills sing. Because after you get through New York. Yeah. When you get through New York and then you can get to Beverly Hills, it's like, oh, yes, thank God.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Maybe we should pin like a nominations post. Like, you know, we're gonna leave this nominations post. If you want to try and get something in there and just have people post comments, we can start going through. But anyway, just check over that social and we'll be doing that. Let's get to Beverly Hills, shall we? What a great day. This is called High Horses and Low Blows, which is. Yay, Great title. And it is Kyle's, you know, just. Just when you think Kyle might be getting an original personality, because now instead of stealing from, you know, lvp, who's been gone forever and she doesn't have any more pink swings to steal, now she is dating a country star, so, you know, now maybe she'll just be her own person. No, now she's just stealing from the country star and lvp. Because today's party has diamonds in the title. Like, diamonds and. But this one's denim and diamonds, and there's even a miniature horse. So, you know, LVP was sitting at home smoking a cigarette with a glass of wine, going, oh, try harder, darling, and just coughed out the souls of all of the new young people that she's eating up for her new season of Vanderpump Rules.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes. And you can tell that Kyle really is mad at Dorit. All that talk about how Kyle and Dorit, like, they took the first step towards healing, they got a lot of stuff out, their friendship is moving in the right direction, but is it really? Because what is the first thing that Kyle does is she invites Camille Grammar to a party because she knows that Camilla Grammar will go after Dorit. So, you know, there you go.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kyle will always get over her hatred for somebody if she'll go for somebody else. You know, I mean, Kyle classically brought on Brandi Glanville to go for Denise Richards that year. Pretty Kyle. So, yeah. And, you know, bless Camille. I mean, really, Camille, at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. Camille gives so much to tv. I mean, she really gives very little, but she tries so hard. And I, you know, to those of us who are just. Are not always a success at everything we do, Camille is just out there. She's just still trying. And God bless her, I hope that everybody takes that as a, you know, inspirational moment. Because if Camille can keep trying, we can, too. Because Camille just. She Bats. And she fails. She goes up to bat, she strikes out every goddamn time she comes on here and she just keeps going. She doesn't even care that she failed. She just gets up and keeps swinging a bat around in the air. It's like, are you trying to hit a ball or are you just trying to catch a bee? What are you trying to do? And she doesn't care. She'll just stay on the diamond, you know?

[Ronnie Karam]

But you know what, though? She does get under people's skin. And so she does what she sets out to do. Her purpose. Her purpose is to annoy other people. And she does that. I mean, I don't think on any Real Housewives show, any Bravo show, we have heard the C word uttered so many times in such a short amount of time. I mean, and who would have thought that that would happen on Beverly Hills? Of all the franchises, the most polite of the. Of the franchises. So, you know, Camille serves her purpose. You know, she. She tries to. She tries to say her part or say her piece. Maybe she. Maybe she's successful at that, maybe she's not, but at what she does, at the very least, always get under somebody's skin, whether it's Dorit, whether it's Rinna, whether it's Kyle at one point, you know, God bless Camille Grammer.

[Ben Mandelker]

She gets under your skin and then she's thrown out in the trash, you know? Yeah, listen, if you keep failing, don't, you know, just don't keep trying. Just keep failing. Just be fine with failing. Like Camille. It's so fun for the rest of us. So we start at Garcelle's house, and Garcelle is now to the point where she's literally just doing soap opera scenes with herself. You know, like, especially on Days of Our Lives, they will give each other monologue. I mean, they'll give themselves a monologue if they don't have. If their kids left for college. Arlene Davidson will stand in that kitchen and talk to her damn stuff. Stefano Demira. I wonder if he's alive. I wonder if he'll be coming for me today. Is there cheese in my kitchen? God, I wish John Black would fuck me. RIP John Black. They're not above a monologue, and neither is Garcelle. So Garcelle is sitting in her dining room looking at herself on the Internet because she has just received a screener and sees. She goes, oh, my God. Wow. The opening scene of my movie. Executive producer, Garcelle Beauvais. Oh, my God. I am not getting teary eyed about this. I'm not doing a monologue in my kitchen. I'm not. I refuse. I wonder how Stefano's doing. I wonder if John Black will fuck me. I wonder if there's monster cheese in my fridge. Wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I was really amused by Garcelle having this moment. First of all, this is a sequel. So do you still. Are you still allowed to be, like, teary eyed and like, surprised to see your name as executive producer when you already produced part one?

[Ben Mandelker]

So that's iTunes and I cry when I see my name on a podcast. Girl, please. Yes, you're still allowed to, like, look at me. I've made it.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, oh, mom, I wish you could see me now. So then we go to Dorit's house and she's putting sunblock on Jagger and.

[Jennifer Tilly]

He'S like, oh, mommy, are those your glasses? And she's like, yes, they are, baby.

[Ronnie Karam]

Come here.

[Jennifer Tilly]

She goes, he's like, go. Those are really nice, mama. They say NBA on it.

[Ronnie Karam]

And she goes, well, the Louis Vuitton.

[Jennifer Tilly]

They'Re part of the NBA collection.

[Ronnie Karam]

I like that. She gives like a very. Like, she gives the specific details of where the sunglasses are from.

[Ben Mandelker]

You gotta help school those kids.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, she was on the red carpet.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's what homeschooling is. Because aren't her kids. I think her kids are homeschooled. And so if that's true, that's what I read on Reddit, which makes it true. But if that is true, then this is an education. These are Dorit's children. You know that they learn the alpha. You know what's in the Alphabet for them? Ggcc. Wait, is it GG is Gucci. See, I'm not homeschooled. I'm not homeschooled by a Ritz.

[Jennifer Tilly]

YSL.

[Ben Mandelker]

B is for diabetes.

[Ronnie Karam]

Number 17, LV and NBA. So it's a deconstructed Alphabet. Now we go to Erica's house and she's just like looking at renderings of what her house could look like if. If she had interior design.

[Dorit Kemsley]

So she's like, oh, yeah, these are.

[Jennifer Tilly]

The three designs I want to look. Oh, my God, look at these colors. Wow. Fuck, look at those window treatments.

[Dorit Kemsley]

I don't want a design. I want a house. I want a house.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's funny though, because when you really look at the pictures, she's looking at these designs that are all black and white stripes and you know how close she was to coming to prison with all that shit that Tom had going on. It's just interesting that she's looking at like an old timey prison, an outfit. She's like, I'm totally over the trauma, everybody.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Which is why my whole house will.

[Ben Mandelker]

Be orange and black and white striped.

[Jennifer Tilly]

There'll be one part Ronald McDonald hair, one part Hamburglar. That's the design board, the inspiration board.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, that's for her hamburger. She's got one water burger theme and then one Hamburglar theme.

[Ronnie Karam]

Ooh, a cheeseburger from McDonald's sounds so good to me right now. I just had a bowl of oatmeal in an attempt to be healthy. I'm like, I'm going to be heart healthy today. I'm going to have some oatmeal. And the very first thing I do after I'm finished with my bowl of oatmeal is start craving a McDonald's cheeseburger. This is fucked up. It's not fair. No.

[Ben Mandelker]

Leah Black came over last night because she's in town and we. We were on the Jeff Lewis show together yesterday. So she came over to see the house and she brought chocolates. God damn it. I've been like pac Manning those chocolates all day long. I'm just like, I don't need to eat that whole thing. So I just leave it on a counter. And then before you know it, there's a trail of chocolates half eaten on counters and they have been eaten. I went down the whole maze. I was like, oh, my God, I made it all the way to the banana level.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Chocolate does not last in and near me for amazing duration of time.

[Ben Mandelker]

God.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it's so good.

[Ben Mandelker]

So good. So Jennifer Tilly's. Let's go over to the best scene of the day over at Jennifer Tilly's home. So she's talking to, I'm guessing her assistant, right, Jeff? Her gay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Oh, my. My mouse stopped working. Oh, well, this is. This is the problem when you decide to finally get a bluetooth mouse. And now guess what? The mouse is like, oh, you gotta.

[Ben Mandelker]

I told you, you gotta get the apple one. Other ones, you got to charge every two hours.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is. I literally my. I'm having a sudden moment. I let the mouse go. Okay, mouse, come on, come on.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I'm doing girl talk about Jennifer.

[Ronnie Karam]

Tilly while I save the mouse.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Jennifer Tilly, you know, like most housewives, keeps the gays working because some of us just thank God for this because I don't even know what I'd be. Well, I know what I'd be doing. I'd be waiting table still. But A lot of us just don't have any skills. Me one of them. I'm a terrible waiter. But thank God, in Beverly Hills, even if you're not a real housewife on tv, there are plenty of women like these women who really do keep gays working. I mean, they will just get all of us foppy gays in there, just hand us hangers and a steamer and just have us go. Just go. Personal assistant gays. And Jeff is one of the real housewives in the gay economy. So he's working for her. And you know, he's not great at it. Cause he's like, I don't know where the wine glasses are. Which, this is why he can't be employed anywhere else, you know. But Jennifer Tilly loves it.

[Dorit Kemsley]

It's like, well, can you get a drink for Tiffany too? She needs something to drink.

[Ben Mandelker]

And he's like, well, does she like.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Diet Coke or regular Coke? No, she wants wine. There's a bottle of wine in there. Just half a glass. Cause she'll drink the whole thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we find out Tiffany is her little Chucky doll.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's because she does the voice for Tiffany, I think, Right. For Chucky. The Chucky franchise.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Jennifer Tilly]

So she's just sitting there, she's like, here you go. Don't drink it all.

[Ronnie Karam]

And she literally puts a glass of champagne or white wine in Tiffany's hand and just sits there. And Jeff is like, well, make sure she doesn't spill. We just cleaned her dress.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Yes. She's always spilling stuff. I think we got it. Put that right there.

[Ronnie Karam]

And so Kyle shows up. And Kyle, you know that like, Kyle has a weird relationship with the supernatural. So we know she's going to freak out when she sees this doll.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So they see Kyle coming and she rings the doorbell.

[Dorit Kemsley]

So Jennifer is like, oh, gay Jeff, pretend to hear. My butler is going to be so hilarious.

[Ben Mandelker]

So he does and he's like, hello, I'm Jeff. And Kyle's like, hello, I'm Kyle.

[Dorit Kemsley]

She goes, no, you're Jeff the butler.

[Jennifer Tilly]

This, this is Jeff. He's my butler. I'm. I'm fancy like Kathy Hilton.

[Ronnie Karam]

And. Which is kind of funny that she says that because it's like, you know that's her sister. Right. You know, that's like, that's Kathy's sister. Who wants to be fancy like Kathy Hilton too.

[Jennifer Tilly]

I'm not like her, like her low rent sisters. Who are they again, Jeff? Who are Kathy Hilton's sisters that are nearly as famous or as rich as her? Oh, it's you, Kyle. Sorry about that, Kyle.

[Dorit Kemsley]

I did this. You're not the only one who thinks that they're pretending to be Kathy Hilton.

[Jennifer Tilly]

I heard that if you ranked all three sisters together, that Kathy Hilton actually ranks number one. That was on Bravocon, I believe.

[Ben Mandelker]

So. Carl's like, wow, your house is so pretty. Which, you know, Kyle doesn't believe because this house is so unique. It's like in Spanish style. It's very unique. Kyle really likes a gutted and marbled and painted white house. And that's not this house at all. So she's just kind of like, very nice.

[Ronnie Karam]

Doesn't know what to do.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

With someone's house that has like a unique artistic vision. She's like, if the house doesn't look like Kathy's or Kris Kardashian's, I don't understand the decor. Like, she's like, where's your black and white checkerboard foyer?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Do you not have neon signs anywhere or.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Well, this is my party house. I actually live next door.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so we find out that she's just so rich. She's got houses everywhere. And she lives next door to one house that she lives in.

[Dorit Kemsley]

And she tells us, well, I have lots of properties. I have a property in Las Vegas because my boyfriend did I. Our professional poker players.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we see a picture of him and her and her poker outfit.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is all such a flex on Kyle Richards. It's hilarious to be able to have side by side mansions in. Are they. Is she in Bel Air? It doesn't matter where she is.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, Bel Air tops, Beverly Hills.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, you have side by side mansions in Bel Air. And then for your day job, you just go and potentially just lose the money that you just have everywhere. You're like, you know what? I've accumulated so much wealth. Let me go to Vegas and just gamble it. I'll just gamble it professionally. I will professionally just put this money into the. Into the ether. And that's just how much money she has. Kyle. I don't think Kyle even realizes how much. How wealthy Jennifer is.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Jennifer really is a poker player. I've seen her on World of Poker. I watched that. I used to watch. There was like a World Series of Poker channel on LG TVs. And I would watch that while I was eating lunch every. Because I love poker, you know. And so I would watch that every day. And she was on it sometimes. And she's very, very funny playing poker. Cause, you know, poker is mostly dudes. It's like dudes in sunglasses trying to out boy each other.

[Dorit Kemsley]

They're like, oh my God, I'm smellier than you. They're like, nah, I'm smellier. I ain't afraid of you, you loser.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know that's how the guys are. And then Jennifer's like, uh, oh, am.

[Dorit Kemsley]

I gonna bet everything? I'm gonna put everything I have into the pot. Let's see.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she just, it's so funny to watch her in the middle of all these guys. And then when she's like, oh, dar.

[Dorit Kemsley]

And I guess I didn't get that one. Guess I was bluffing.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh God. So, well, not only does, not only does she have side by side houses in, in Bel Air, she also has a beach house in Malibu.

[Jennifer Tilly]

And she goes, but we never go there because there's a ghost there and he really doesn't like us being there.

[Ronnie Karam]

I can't blame him. So she just has an empty house that she lets the ghosts roam free in.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Dorit Kemsley]

She's like, oh, don't mind Tiffany. Tiffany's a little bit of an alcoholic.

[Ben Mandelker]

And you just keep putting these glowing eyes on Tiffany as she holds her little wine glass.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then Ed Kyle's like, oh, my God, that's really creepy. Although I think I own that dress and that jacket. I'm like, kyle, you're even competing the doll. But then we do.

[Ben Mandelker]

We do find ripping it off. Kyle's ripping it off the doll.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Then Jennifer's like, yes, the G made that especially for Tiffany. John Paul Gautier.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, we've been talking about how she's rich from being from. She's got that Simpsons money. But, like, wow, that is Simpsons money that you're having, like, these bespoke dresses for your doll.

[Ben Mandelker]

But she's also a gay icon, which makes her more than rich because she's a certain kind of famous that you can't just get on your own. You know what I mean?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so Kyle's just, like, beside herself looking at all of this in the end of Jean Paul. Cause Jean Paul probably called her up.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Like, I love your work, Tiffany. I'd love to make you dress for Tiffany.

[Ben Mandelker]

Triangle boobs.

[Dorit Kemsley]

We do triangle boobs. It's okay for you. Oh, sorry, Jean Paul. That's fine.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Sutton comes in and she. She says hello and everything here.

[Jennifer Tilly]

You remember Jeff, right? He's the butler. He's very fancy, like Kathy Hilton.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Sutton's like, oh, yes. Hi. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. I'm giving you best Hollywood right here. Everyone look at my look, everybody. So they're all saying, oh, my God, your look. Etc. Sparkling water goes around, and Kyle is like, okay, I hope you guys have your outfits ready for my diamonds and denim party, guys. And I like Kyle. Kyle wanting them to get their outfits ready ahead of time. When then when we get to Kyle's party, I cannot stand. You know what? I'm putting a pin in it. I'm putting a pin in it. I'm gonna wait. To the party.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Oh, could you get Kyle some more sparkling water? These glasses are fabulous, but they don't really hold much, much like Kyle.

[Ben Mandelker]

So he goes off and Kyle's like, this is my first party.

[Dorit Kemsley]

My first party without mo.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sounds like. Well, you might find it liberating. You know, you might finish the party.

[Jennifer Tilly]

And be like, hell, yeah, this is Kyle's house now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Did you ever figure out how to open up that door that leads outside?

[Ben Mandelker]

Have you been able to get outside your patio with that chair that is now sideways and blocking it? Figure out.

[Ronnie Karam]

Figure out how to. You ever figure out how to turn your coffee maid on? Have you tried the on off switch? Okay, just checking. Yeah, this part will be real liberating. Real Liberating.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then she's like, yeah.

[Dorit Kemsley]

I mean, it feels funny, like, having my first party alone without Mo being.

[Ben Mandelker]

My co host, because, like, there's always something going wrong.

[Dorit Kemsley]

And then Mo would help.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we see a flashback to him being like, I fixed something, babe. It is fixed now. Wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

He would do so much. He would figure out how to open up doors. He would turn on lights.

[Dorit Kemsley]

He.

[Ronnie Karam]

He even knew how to put a pillowcase on a pillow. Like, it's weird to have to do these things on my own.

[Ben Mandelker]

Now I feel a little strange, you know? Like, what do I put all the invitations, like, Kyle's house, Like, Umaski Resonance. It's just like, I just, like, feel so lost.

[Ronnie Karam]

So it's like, literally, you just do that. Come to my party at my house. You don't have to say Umansky. You don't have to say Umansky residence. You're having a. You're having a diamonds and denim party. You don't have to act like you're in Downton Abbey, okay? Just say, hey, y'all. Come to the rodeo. In 1, 2, 3. Encino. Stupid face Lane.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they stop Stupid face Lane. So they start talking about the other. The trip or whatever. And Jennifer Tilly's like, well, it was.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Just non stop when you and Dorit had that big blow up.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we see a week earlier Dorit and Kyle going at it, and then Jennifer is like, oh, yeah. We were like, damn.

[Dorit Kemsley]

But I guess I felt like it cleared the air a little where you were, like, talking about how you felt, and then she was talking about how she felt, and then another woman started talking, but she had salmon in her hand, so I was really just listening to her, to be honest with you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I felt better. I felt, like, a lot lighter the next day. I mean, obviously we still have to have a conversation.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Obviously.

[Ronnie Karam]

I have to invite her nemesis to my party and confront her with her. But, like, you know, I think we're moving in the right direction.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, great. That's great for you. That is go right for you.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Carl's like, oh, you guys have your own problems, I guess, huh?

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like, yeah.

[Dorit Kemsley]

I was like, excuse me, ma'am, but I would like to take over for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Huh? Okay, Kyle, I'm taking over your problems with Dorit now. So Sutton is just so huffy and puffy and defended that she was trying to have a sisterhood moment, and Dorit.

[Ronnie Karam]

Argued with her, and this is all Sutton's fault because Sutton is The one who got a bee in her bonnet because Erica muttered something. And Sutton's like, everything. There should be no muttering. There should be no stage whispers. Everything should be out in the open. And it's such a small thing that she decided to confront Dorit about. And then Dorit went off the handle, and now Sutton is all furious, and she's like, all I was trying to do was get us as a group to understand that we can express our feelings without being ostracized, without being yelled at, without being ganged up on. And Dorit just kept on talking about Teddy, and you're missing the point, Dorit. The point is no one actually cares about Teddy. We shouldn't be talking about Teddy in.

[Jennifer Tilly]

2024 on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. It's not about Teddy.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's about the integrity of this show. I mean, it's about the whole group as a whole. And Jennifer's like, well, you know, like.

[Jennifer Tilly]

It'S sort of like how miss America's. When they're asked a question and they just keep on talking until they think that maybe they've answered it.

[Ben Mandelker]

That was such a funny line, too. I love her. God, she's so good. She's such a great addition to this. But also, Sutton's such a hypocrite, because Sutton and Garcelle, especially Garcelle sits there and makes little side comments constantly to each other. I mean, fucking constantly. And Sutton is the queen of eye rolling. People sitting there and eye rolling. So whatever, Sutton. So then Erica arrives over at Dorit's house, and Jagger's like, I'll open it, mama. She's like, okay. And so he goes to the door. He's like, villain, villain. He runs around starting all the fire alarms.

[Dorit Kemsley]

He's like, stop it, Saga. I told you she's not a villain anymore. Hello, Erica. Come in. Oh, hi.

[Jennifer Tilly]

So nice to see your son. Get the out of my face. So that's just how I talk to my friends, kids. She's like, oh, yes. But he's going up to tennis.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they said to Reese, say, please, come on in.

[Jennifer Tilly]

I made us some water.

[Ronnie Karam]

She put some lemon and lemon slices and cucumber slices in the water. Erica's like, not.

[Dorit Kemsley]

I made us some water.

[Jennifer Tilly]

She's like, well, I am so tired, Erica. I am just so tired. Please ask me about it. I'm so tired.

[Dorit Kemsley]

You know, you're lucky with everything that's happening with PK And I that George is tired from there, because I should say, it's as bad as I Could. Because I'm sure it can get worse.

[Ben Mandelker]

It can get worse.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Erica's like, oh, yeah, it could get way worse as well as gonna get way worse at a whole time.

[Ben Mandelker]

Erica reassuring Erica, like, wait. Wait until they threaten you with prison. Get back to me.

[Jennifer Tilly]

We haven't spoken in two weeks.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Erica's like, well, do you feel overwhelmed?

[Jennifer Tilly]

And she's like, well, you do see this jug of water that took me five hours to make, so I guess a little bit.

[Dorit Kemsley]

And Erica's like, I can't imagine how hard it is to separate with children. I was one of those children. Her mom got divorced, she got separated not once, but twice. You could try to hide, but they feel it. They're in the house. They know. They know when you walk in late to their children's recital, you judge them silently while you're just trying to sing.

[Ben Mandelker]

A little Christmas song.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Still traumatized by that bitch. Never gonna forgive her. Oh, sorry, Dorit. This is about you.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love that Erica still has such clear mommy issues that run through this whole episode. They really do. And I love that her therapist is also so good and actually one of the best. We'll get to that later. But doesn't really nail the mommy thing, like I'd like her to. Anyway, we'll. We'll judge the therapist in good time. Just you wait. Henry Higgins.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sarah.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Cause, like, well, I hope you and Kyle got somewhere on Oceanside, because. Oh, we definitely did. We definitely did. Listen, Coyle and I got, where we needed, which is the beginning and where we get it all out, you know, and now we can start somewhere, and I'm happy about that. So, you know, can we talk about something else? Because I'm really mad at Sutton now instead.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Well, first I just want to say I like bows. Oh, yes. I think she's cool. Now, who is Bose again.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sir? Because, like.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Well, did you see the pictures from a trip on Instagram? It was pretty amazing. You know, she went with the daughter. It just looks so special. She's just very, very special.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so we see Bose and her daughter, you know, taking pictures on their trip. And so then they're talking about how busy Bose is. It's crazy that she's flying here and there and still coming to a party. And then now we're going to talk about Sutton Anyway, Sus. Sutton talking about sisterhood.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Honestly, it just felt so hypocritical.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then she raises her voice at me. I raise my voice back. Back. Admitted she's mad at me. How dare I?

[Dorit Kemsley]

How dare I Speak.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Well, yeah, and I lost it on the Sprinter with her too.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then we see a flashback where son goes, well, you know, by the way, there was a moment when Erica, you kind of whispered something to Kyle and then cycles.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Well, you thought it.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like, well, Erica, that was a lot. So we come back and, oh, actually, now we. Now we're gonna start cross cutting between the Erica and Dorit conversation with the Jennifer Tilly group. So Kyle is like, you know, when you first brought that up, Sutton in the Sprinter to Erica, why didn't you. Why didn't you speak up? And she's like, well, you know, because I could hear her stage whisper. And I was. And she said, well, that's not what Dorit said last night. And then we see a flashback to all that happening in Oceanside.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then. So it's like, I mean, the whole point of my sisterhood act is that we don't talk about each other behind each other's backs, especially in a whisper at the table. Do you get it, Erica? I mean, that's literally what you're doing, though, right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

You guys have.

[Ben Mandelker]

I can't Gathered.

[Ronnie Karam]

Gathered in front of a doll. Like, the only one who is not keeping this. The only one who is keeping this pact is Annabelle. The rest of you guys are talking behind each other's backs, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

So then back at Dorit's, Erica's like.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Well, at least I had the balls to say to Kyle's. You know, to say to Kyle, that's different than what I heard the other night. You know, whatever my comment, at least I said it. And Sutton's looking at me. Well, fuck you. At least I said it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so Erica's like, whatever. We all say things under our breasts. So, so stupid. So then back to Sutton. She's like, but this. This is an amazing group of women. We have an amazing dynamic. And I'm like, what has happened to us? We've unraveled, girl, you were never raveled. You were never raveled. What are you talking about?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, Sutton is the last person to ever talk about being raveled and sane. Let's go back to Magic Mike. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Go back to, like, literally 60% of her scenes on this show when she's screaming and crying over nothing or just.

[Ronnie Karam]

Flash forward to the end of the episode.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she's like, we're 10 minutes from now. Yeah, you're exactly right.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, listen, I am not angry with Dorit. And all of a sudden we hear.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Charmed. She's like, oh, sorry, everyone. That's my auntie clock. I bought it. It cost $5 million. I just thought I'd have it. It's haunted, so we'll probably throw it off the pier later.

[Ben Mandelker]

And they're just stopping. They're annoyed that they have to stop because they just keep cry all on Sutton. Just keep looking at the ground like, oh, my God, we have to wait for this fucking clock. The clock never stops. It just keeps going and going. And they get mad, and Jennifer can see they're annoyed, and she goes, it belonged to Share.

[Ronnie Karam]

Don't worry, guys. It's okay. It's okay to be interrupted because we're basically being interrupted by Cher. It's like Cher is here with us right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, she just put it into it. Like, you can't be annoyed. This is a religious home, and here we worship Cher. So get your shit together, you know?

[Ronnie Karam]

And those hands do not go backwards, I'll tell you that. That much so funny. They do not go backwards. We know Cher. If they could, Cher would have done it. Cher would have turned it back.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Sutton's like, well, I'm not angry with Dorit.

[Dorit Kemsley]

I just.

[Ben Mandelker]

If I could turn back. I know. I heard that laugh. Like, you thinking I didn't get your shared joke.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was like, ronnie. I was like, he'll get it. He'll get it. Give him time. And now I'm realizing, you did get it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I got it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Get it. You just.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just like, I'm gay, so.

[Ronnie Karam]

You've done better, Ben. You've done better.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, no, it wasn't that. I was like, oh, I think I just heard your. You're like, he didn't get it, Lash. And I was like, like, oh, I think I was supposed to sing this song because I'm gay. You know, it's like a gay trigger you're supposed to do if someone says that they wouldn't turn back the time. I was supposed to go, if I could turn back time.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, it was more like I was laughing because I felt like I. I like, I. I made my little joke, and then I was afraid you didn't get it. So I, like, I re. Emphasized it more more specifically. And then you were like, huh? And then I was like, oh, I'm. I'm, like, forcing this joke to land right now. I'm like, if Cher could turn back time, wow, she'd have so much fun with this clock right now, people. Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

She sure would do it.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Oh, do you believe in life after clocks?

[Ronnie Karam]

So, yeah, Share.

[Ben Mandelker]

She should come share. Am I right, guys?

[Ronnie Karam]

My mouse is still frozen. I just want to announce that to everyone. My mouse is still frozen.

[Ben Mandelker]

Are you charging it?

[Ronnie Karam]

I am charging it. I don't know what it's. It's. It's tragic. Luckily, luckily, I can scroll with my arrows up and down my notes, but I just feel. I feel like I've lost an appendage right now. This is. This is devastating to me.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't blame you. And you've worked so hard on that setup, too. It sucks when you put all this work into something and then it's like something little. Just. Come on. I put so much money into you. It's just like, I shouldn't have to deal with this anymore. I. Like, I'm pretending I'm right now by buying all this equipment. And, you know, you're still.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know what? Enough about Kyle's face, okay? Enough about Kyle's face. Her face looks great. I, I, I shouldn't be snarky. I just had to take you the joke where I could find it. I had to make up for that share joke situation.

[Ben Mandelker]

Go for share joke was good. It was my reaction that was go for some lwh.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hanging fruit.

[Ben Mandelker]

Speaking of Kyle. So then we. So then we. We go to Garcelle, and Garcelle's like, wow. Here I am standing in the kitchen with my dog Kobe, and my house manager, Glenda. Hello, Glenda. Would you like to help me pack into a U haul? I have called Sutton to help me with a U haul. I feel great about it. Hold on. I wish my mother could see this moment. Are you doing Kabuki right now? You don't have to. You don't have to narrate all this.

[Ronnie Karam]

Glenda's like, I hope you're happy. I hope you're happy now. I hope you're happy. Stop it, Glenda. You're Glenda, not Glinda. Stop trying to ride the wave. It doesn't count.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Garcelle's like, I can't believe I can't find that butterfly. Have you seen it? And Glenda's like, popular. Do you want to be popular? No.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Dorit Kemsley]

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[Ben Mandelker]

So they're doing storage and they're their big wacky scene is going to be Sutton driving a U Haul truck with her assistant Avi. So that's what we're excited for because they're going to be taking stuff out of storage to Garcel's new home in Merlin.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oxnard.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oxnard up Ventura.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, Onard is the street, but Oxnard is up in Ventura. It's way the out there. I by the way, good for her. Yeah, good for her. Also good for her of a Sutton driving that U Haul. I have never driven a U Haul and I think I'd be scared to.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, I've, I've driven one. And let me tell you who was scared. Everybody around me. It was, it was. It's terrible. That's what's scary about a U Haul is, you know, that it's an idiot like you driving it. And that's the scariest thing when you see one on the street. Because if they let me into one of those things, they'll let anybody. And trust me, it was not pretty.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I'd be so. Well, first of all, she was on the 101 freeway. So that's already like, that's just the 101's a lot if you're in like a highly visible car. Like we have lots of windows and no blind spots. But like in a U Haul where you can't see out the rear view window, you just have to rely on those mirrors. A rear, it's just a. I'm stressed. But she, Sutton not only was driving that U Haul, she seemed like happy as a clam. She seemed really comfortable with it. She was just like tootling down the highway with it. So I liked that. That was a nice, nice dimension to her that she can drive a U Haul.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she complains, you know, of course she's like, you know, you need to. You need to get a helicopter because this is real far. This is real far. And Gresa's like, oh, please. It's an hour. It's like an hour and a half away. Which is how long Mallow. It's how far Malibu is really usually for people in Hollywood, pretty close. It can take, like, an hour and a half to get to Malibu.

[Ronnie Karam]

Malibu are pretty close, actually.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Which is crazy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, are they Relatively. I mean, like, I think, like, once you start going up PCH past Malibu, everything seems close. It's like. And then you're at Santa Barbara. But good for her for going out there. So great. I saw her do a housewalk through somewhere. I don't know where it was, but she's like, hi, I'm Garcelle Beauvais. I want to show you my house. This is the living room. And let me just say. Wow. Wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

Garcelle, can we see upstairs?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, no, no. So. So they drive to this house, and she's like, I am obsessed with this door. Obsessed. And it is one of the hugest stores I've ever seen. It's really big. It's a mansion door. On, not a mansion. I mean, it's a big beach house. But, you know, beach houses are generally not mansions. And it's as big as the wall. It's as big as a wall in a beach house. Gorgeous door.

[Ronnie Karam]

It was a really. It was a gorgeous door. But I also, you know, I'm suspicious of giant doors. Sometimes they're just too big. Like, I don't want to feel like when I open a door, I'm actually rotating a set in on wicked. Like, I want to feel like the door is just a door.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, you can. You can't spend time in Texas. Every. Every door is like a mall entrance. My front door in Texas looks like a mall entrance. It's ridiculous.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sometimes I feel like with those big gas doors, it does feel like. Like, I just. It does feel like you're open up that door, and there's gonna be someone sitting on a couch that rotates in and starts singing. It's like they're so big. They're enormous. Yeah, they were like, like, what do you. What are we expecting, 10 people to come in? Like, as a. Like, are we expecting the rockets to come in in formation? Like, why do the doors have to be that big?

[Ben Mandelker]

You never know. So they go see this house. It's great. She did a great job on it. And she's thinking about how much work it was and how, you know, you're picking everything every day. And it's. It was so cool to see this. I love to see a nice remodel. You know, she did a really great job. And so then, let's see what else happens in this one.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm trying to scroll as fast as I can, but as you know, my mouse is dead. So I'm just relying on my.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's just do a tour. You know, we get a tour of it. It looks really great. And Sutton's like, oh, Garcelle did this all on her own. You know, that whole. That whole moment of being proud for your friend, which is cute. Yeah. And then. So she's like, look what you've done with your life. And she's like, yeah. I mean, look what we. And my son said, mom, you've given us a life. It's already incredible. And then as a single mom, you did this. Then he lifted me up above his shoulders, and he said, look, everybody, that is my mom. And, you know, I'm the proudest mom ever, because I am a. Officially a good mom. Now I'm gonna have my kids in the next episode, and I'm going to beg them to call me a good mom before they accuse me of being a runaway who never spends time with them. Thank you for joining my segment. Wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, you know, it's hard to get thanks from our children, especially when you force them to spend their summers in the south fixing vending machines. But, you know, they'll thank us eventually. And, you know, I've been thinking about it. By the way, can I just. Can we get gossiping? Okay. I've been thinking about it a lot with this group. There are things that happen all of a sudden, and then there are, like, shifts that are happening, and not just with Dorit and Kyle, but now we got Dorit and me. Oh, my God. And this is a person I just had a heart to heart with on a boat. And now look. Now I'm in a fight with Dorit. So I was just going around telling everyone, like, can you believe this giant feud I'm in with Dorit? When they just, like, Dorit popped off in. In the sprinter van. Yes. But it was, like, a blip. And now she's like, I just can't even believe the feud that is breaking the Internet right now between me and Dorit.

[Ben Mandelker]

That is Sutton. She's really overhyping her stupid feud that nobody cares about. So she's like, well, I can tell you this right now. If it comes to divorce or Whatever's happening with those children, if she wants me to guide her with finance stuff, that other shoe is going to drop, Dorit. It's going to drop. And Garcelle goes, what shoe? Check the PK shoe. And I think that at some point, she's going to realize she's in a big mess, and we're going to have to pull together like. Like a sisterhood. We're all gonna have to pull together, and we are gonna have to bring the village to dorit. We're gonna have to reclother re home her. She's a mess. She's losing everything.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, you know when I said last year about her jewelry and her robbery, and everyone gasped and everyone acted like they never heard it before, and I was like, what the is wrong with you people? Well, I don't think Dorit had anything to do with that robbery, but I think someone did. And I think Dorit just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Coming soon to lifetime, executive produced by Garcelle Beauvais. Oh, my God, I can't believe I saw my name in the credits of that commercial.

[Ben Mandelker]

So it's like, oh, God, here she goes. And, yes, she just did it. She's basically bringing up the Internet rumor that PK planned this whole thing. Because if people recall, this was pretty fishy how it happened at the time when it happened. The reason it was fishy, well, not only because it's PK and Dorit and the grifters, and everybody knows it, but at the time, all this news was coming out that BK owed millions of dollars to the Bellagio, and they were coming after him because of gambling debts. Millions, like, a lot of money. And everybody else. News about his bankruptcies in London were coming. Coming out again, re emerging because of this news, and it was like $11 million bankruptcy. Then Dorit went on the reunion and was saying, I own every single thing that I wear on this show. I've bought everything. Everything you've seen on the show is like, I own it. I've got a huge archive of everything I've ever worn on the show, which is bullshit. Everybody knows that she runs half that shit. And the very next night, they got robbed. So it looked like Dorit went on the show to announce that she had all of this money sitting in her closet so that when they robbed her, literally the next night, they have TV footage of her saying that she owned all this stuff. So that's what they're going to claim on the insurance. It was very fishy. The way that it all went down. Okay, I'm not saying anybody faked it, but this is why the Internet thought it was fishy. It's not just everybody's mean and cynical. It's fishy because it's them. So the Internet was talking. Dorit obviously heard it. Nobody else on this show is going to bring it up. So Dorit's like, fuck it, I don't have anything to do. My kids are gone. I've got nothing. I've. I've. I've already blown the load on my. My beach house story. Here we go. Let's just bring up Reddit. Let's do it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, why not? So now we go to Erica's house and her therapist, Dr. Jen Nana comes over and Erica offers her some non homemade water, I believe. And tacky. I know, it's like, how about next time you have a guest you spend some time making some water? Okay. So Erica is like, well, I have.

[Jennifer Tilly]

A lot of things to tell you about when. What about what's going on in this home? Okay. You know, I'm gonna be here. I would have been here for four years in November. And I'm finally, you know what, it stirred up a lot of emotions, you know.

[Ronnie Karam]

And she's like, yeah, yeah.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Well, you know, I want to make this place a sanctuary. I mean, do you know how miserable it is to come to this 2.3 million dollar house with vegetation and a.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Pool in the back?

[Jennifer Tilly]

Oh God, there's a duck in the pool. I might as well be living in a cardboard box. How do I turn it into a sanctuary?

[Ben Mandelker]

It is so funny watching Erica act like little orphan Annie. It has been funny since she got this house, but especially now. Cause this house looks great. I think this house is so beautiful.

[Dorit Kemsley]

I mean, she's like, bring your polar bears of water fluoride. Let's go in here, talk about my dreams.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so she does. And they walk into the next room. It is just gorgeous. I mean, I know it's not the big grand house we're not used to on this show, but it's Spanish architecture, like homes in west Hollywood are, are. And I think it's just gorgeous. I would love this house.

[Jennifer Tilly]

She's like, you know, when I was walking down those flagstones to the little wrought iron gate through the hedges to come let you into this household, I thought, how could I make this a sanctuary? I don't know how I could do it.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's just.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's cute. It's such a cute house. Like, it is. It's like, like, like it. Like the fact it's actually kind of funny because her designs, she wants a black and white. If I had to make it all the stuff. That doesn't seem very sanctuary at all. I mean, she's bringing Martin Lawrence Ballard next week and he. I don't look at him and think like, ooh, sanctuary. I just think of, like, you know, patterns. Barfing up on patterns. And I also think of the Fresh and easy supermarket RIP because that's where I saw him once, carrying a basket full of pre packaged vegetables.

[Ben Mandelker]

Two bell peppers in a wrapper. Isn't that something? Fresh and easy?

[Ronnie Karam]

Reminds me of my travels to Injar.

[Ben Mandelker]

So I haven't seen bell peppers like this since I was in Pakistan. So, yeah. So yeah, what you're saying is correct. She's like trying to Beverly Hills ify it. She's trying to Kathy Hilton it too. And that's not what you do to this house. It's a gorgeous Spanish home. Madame. If you do anything, I would take out all the new tile and replace it with like Moroccan or Spanish tiles and, you know, take out all the newer countertops and make them look Spanish. Do it. It's already. Look at the beautiful stucco work in there, the beams going through. I mean, it's just gorgeous. Okay, so anyway, the point is she doesn't know what she has. So. Erica, look at my map. My mic is wrapped up and I'm so excited for it. My mic's like, yes, speak on it, Ronnie.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'll tell you, if that countertop could turn back time, it would.

[Ben Mandelker]

If I can turn back time. There you go. Consider that a dollar in your. Your red bucket Santa, the gay Salvation Army Santa standing outside, just asking for shared donations.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sarah and Sarah, like, you know what? You know what I want from Santa? A functional mouse. That's what I want. All I want for Christmas is a scrolling capability with my hand.

[Ben Mandelker]

If I could mouse my mouth.

[Ronnie Karam]

I do want to turn back time and fix my mouse. I just bought it. I've been feeling.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Erica's like, yeah, well, where I.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Lived, where I moved in, it was just horrible because I. I could step outside and there was paparazzi everywhere taking my picture, taking my picture. Can I get a Taco Bell in peace? Can a woman have a depressing binge on Taco Bell from Doordash in peace? Jesus crackers.

[Ben Mandelker]

And it was true, because there were paparazzi out there every day, and they were like, oh, my God, guess Erica's depressed.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Look who's eating taco Bell again.

[Ronnie Karam]

What a life. So she gives Dr. Jennick's life.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm always going to remember from Erica's trauma is that she was Taco Bell shamed literally every day, which is. And then she finally got to a famous person. That guy that lived down the street, Armie Hammer or whatever. And then he turned out to be some. Cannonball. I was gonna say cannonball. What is he? I think he had cannibal.

[Ronnie Karam]

He had cannibal kink. And then he's a cannonball. That young man is a cannonball right there.

[Ben Mandelker]

You guys, I dated Armie Hammer and he would get. He would masturbate and force me to do cannonballs. It was so embarrassing.

[Dorit Kemsley]

Sorry.

[Ronnie Karam]

You knew Army Hammer. You knew Armie Hammer was gonna be up because how do you spend your entire life sounding almost like baking soda, but not quite like that's gotta you up a little bit.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, you can never get clean. You know what I mean?

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm gonna stop myself. I'm gonna stop.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, no, go ahead. Don't let me with my nonsense.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't think anyone needs any of my Arm and Hammer fanfic in regards to Armie Hammer. Let's just move on to Erica doing Army Hammer fanfic.

[Ben Mandelker]

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