#2679 Southern Hospitality S03E01: The Dawn of MadJoe

Summary

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Podcast Information:

• Title: Watch What Crappens
• Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
• Episode: #2679 Southern Hospitality S03E01: The Dawn of MadJoe
• Release Date: January 8, 2025
• Platform: Wondery

Introduction

In Episode #2679 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the premiere of Season 3 of Bravo’s reality series Southern Hospitality, titled "The Dawn of MadJoe." Ronnie and Ben provide an engaging and humorous analysis of the episode, dissecting key plot developments, character dynamics, and memorable moments. Their lively banter and insightful commentary offer listeners both entertainment and a deeper understanding of the show's intricacies.

Episode Overview

1. Recap of the Season Premiere

The episode begins with Ben and Ronnie discussing the return of Southern Hospitality after a hiatus. They express excitement about the new season’s start despite a delayed release due to the hosts' vacation. Ronnie mentions revamping her recording space, while Ben humorously ties in personal anecdotes about home improvements, subtly intertwining their lives with the show's themes ([00:00] - [03:12]).

2. Spotlight on the Golden Couple: Emmy and Will

The hosts focus on the central couple, Emmy and Will, who are depicted as the "golden couple" on the show. Their relationship is showcased on a boat, where Will professes his support during law school, and Emmy reveals vulnerability with the line, "Oh, my God, you're gonna make me cry" ([05:11] - [05:43]). Ben sarcastically remarks on Will’s hidden flaws, hinting at underlying tensions and potential infidelity.

Notable Quote:

• Will: “I really don't think I could have gotten through this year of law school without you. You've been my rock.” ([05:23])

3. Introduction of New Characters and Rumors

Ben and Ronnie introduce new characters such as Brad and Lake, and discuss rumors surrounding Will and Maddie’s relationship. The conversation highlights Bradley (referred to as "Joey Marbles") and his interactions with other characters, emphasizing the show's penchant for dramatic twists and interwoven storylines ([07:16] - [09:29]).

Notable Quote:

• Ronnie: “Bradley is actually the guy who is like, the trainer.” ([07:28])

4. Michaels: The New Assistant General Manager

The arrival of Michaels, the new assistant general manager, becomes a focal point. Described as "tall and hot," Michaels brings fresh energy and potential romantic subplots to the narrative. Ben and Ronnie speculate humorously about his background and capabilities, adding levity to the intense drama unfolding ([09:54] - [12:51]).

Notable Quote:

• Michaels: “Everyone should be good tonight.” ([11:12])

5. Rising Tensions and Relationship Conflicts

The discussion shifts to escalating tensions within the cast, particularly between Joe Bradley and TJ. Ben and Ronnie analyze confrontations, betrayals, and the ripple effects of past actions on current relationships. They highlight critical scenes where friendships are tested, and alliances are questioned, showcasing the show's exploration of loyalty and trust ([25:00] - [37:35]).

Notable Quote:

• TJ: “You better tell her, he’s dead to me and my family.” ([28:57])

6. The Party and Emotional Climax

A significant portion of the episode centers around a party at Republic Garden and Lounge, where emotions run high. Ben and Ronnie dissect the chaotic interactions, including Joe Bradley’s attempts to mend relationships and Maddie’s evolving feelings for him. The hosts emphasize the show's dramatic flair with humorous commentary on the characters' actions and decisions ([42:20] - [63:49]).

Notable Quote:

• Ben: “I met the love of my life, but he's gay, so now we're best friends.” ([19:28])

7. Pickleball Episode Highlights

The introduction of a pickleball theme at Michael’s party brings a blend of physical activity and personal interactions. Ben and Ronnie laugh over the mishaps and playful competition, highlighting Maddie’s prowess and the humorous attempts to manage the event’s logistics. This segment underscores the balance between lighthearted moments and underlying drama ([63:35] - [75:40]).

Notable Quote:

• Ronnie: “Watch me go, go Never slow, slow.” ([51:15])

8. Final Confrontations and Backlash

As the episode progresses, confrontations reach a boiling point. Joe Bradley confronts TJ about past betrayals, leading to emotional exchanges and unresolved tensions. Ben and Ronnie comment on the characters' inability to reconcile, reflecting on the harsh realities of friendship and loyalty within the high-stakes environment of Southern Hospitality ([84:25] - [87:22]).

Notable Quote:

• Joe Bradley: “We gotta talk.” ([85:08])

Conclusion

Ben and Ronnie wrap up the episode with reflections on the intense and dramatic moments that define Season 3's premiere of Southern Hospitality. They express admiration for the show's ability to maintain high energy and complex character dynamics, while teasing future episodes and encouraging listeners to engage with their content on Patreon and upcoming live tours.

Final Notable Quote:

• Ronnie: “Thank you, Southern Hospitality, for just continuing to be the workhorse that you are.” ([87:10])

Key Takeaways:

• • Southern Hospitality* Season 3 kicks off with heightened drama, complex relationships, and the introduction of new characters.
• The central couple, Emmy and Will, face rumors of infidelity that strain their relationship.
• New dynamics emerge with characters like Michaels and the evolving tension between Joe Bradley and TJ.
• The party scenes and activities like pickleball add layers of humor and conflict, maintaining the show's signature blend of entertainment and drama.
• Ben and Ronnie provide a humorous yet insightful analysis, enhancing the listening experience for fans and newcomers alike.

Overall Impression

Watch What Crappens offers a thorough and entertaining breakdown of Southern Hospitality's Season 3 premiere. Ben and Ronnie's chemistry and witty remarks make the summary both informative and enjoyable, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the episode's key elements without needing to watch it themselves.

Transcript

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

Well, hello. Welcome to Watch what Crappens, the podcast about all the crap that we just love to talk about on Ye Olde Bravs. I'm Rondell. That's Ben. Hello, Ben. How are you?

[Ronnie]

Hi.

[Ben]

Hi. How are you guys? It's a very special day because we've been missing Southern hospitality and it's back. We are doing this extremely late. Guess why? Because it came out on vacation. Okay. So you can suck it. We're not doing that. And then we're going to do it today though, and we're going to enjoy it just as much. Now for those of you who love this show, these recaps will be out probably every Monday. That's what we're going to shoot for from now on. But we will be covering this. We're also covering the Traders, which is another show coming out on Peacock, but that we're doing over on our Patreon. So if you want Traders coverage, go to Patreon. That's also where you get videos like today's hi video recaps. If you'd rather watch these, if you don't want to pay for it, don't worry, you can get them for free a week later on YouTube. Okay. Now we also are going on tour. We're starting in San Francisco, San Diego in two weeks, which is crazy. It's coming right up. But we're also doing the Golden Crappies, which is our star studded event and that is going to be on Broadway this year at the Town Hall. We've got crazy guests coming. It's going to be a big musical extravagance for Broadway. Working on my music right now, you guys getting my, getting my books, get my box in shape. That's going to be great. Get tickets for all that good stuff over at watch what crappens.com and come to Instagram to vote for the prelim nominations which are up Right now. So do your duty as a Bravo citizen and vote. I just saw. Nevermind. It doesn't matter. Do it. All right, Ben, welcome to the show. Hi, hon. What are you thinking today? Hi.

[Ronnie]

Hi. What's going on? I am so excited to talk some Southern hospitality. The premiere blew me away. I did not think it would be nearly as funny as it was. It was great. Loved it. So excited to. To tear it down.

[Ben]

All right, well, let's get going. So we start with the golden couple, Emmy and Will, who are on a boat floating in the water, and Will saying, I really don't think I could have gotten through this year of law school without you. You've been my rock. And she's like, oh, my God, you're gonna make me cry. So she's still cracked out, and he's still a lying cheater. We know that in two seconds. And so they kiss, and he's like, I love you too. And then we see an Instagram story of Will and Emmy titled Our Love Story two Years ago. Dun dun, dun, dun, dun. Let's watch it, shall we?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. We're just seeing a happy, stable couple. You know, Will and Emmy, they were making out at Kiss Cam at whatever sporting event they're at. Was it another. Did they go back to the minor league baseball game? I don't remember. Then, you know, she's saying, I'm happy, he's happy. It's great. They're playing around in bed. They're joking around. They're silly. They love. They are in love. This is a forever couple that we are seeing on camera, by the way.

[Ben]

This is how every dateline starts. They were the perfect couple. All they wanted was each other. If you asked anybody in town who they loved more, they would say, I love nothing more than a good couple. And that's a good couple. Nothing could come between them. Then they were both murdered by possibly a horde of squirrels. And he was cheating on her and beating her the entire time. Like, whoa, Dateline. And that's kind of the vibes I'm getting from this. And Emmy is very much like, oh, he's a lawyer. He's gonna be a lawyer waiting for that ring and not cracked out at all and just kind of desperate. And then we get to more recently. I'm praying these rumors aren't true about Will and Maddie. Now everybody's gossiping about it, and now it's the future, and they're still gossiping about it. And are there cheating rumors? There sure are. And Brad. Who? Some new guy. Right? He's like, I'm asking you what you know Luke. And Luke's like, I have a mustache, and I already said what I know. And the MIA's like, she won't leave him until she sees him sticking a dick into somebody else's putane.

[Ronnie]

Brad is actually the guy who is like, the trainer. And Luke is actually Lake. And Lake is the new one. She is. Looks like she's like the new waitress or something like that. She just. She gets.

[Ben]

Oh, Brad is Bradley. Okay.

[Ronnie]

Yes.

[Ben]

And Lake is not Luke. Isn't there a guy named Luke with a mustache?

[Ronnie]

Is that the new guy?

[Ben]

I don't know.

[Ronnie]

I don't remember. What.

[Ben]

The new guy with the mustache. He looks like a Luke.

[Ronnie]

I was just gonna wait to see when we got there in the notes. Cause I forgot his name entirely. But he, like, chops wood, so I was like, whatever.

[Ben]

Oh, sorry, Lake, you don't have a mustache. Lake's a real cute girl who looks way too innocent to be here. And she's already getting flirted with by Bradley, which makes me worry for her, you know?

[Ronnie]

Right. Cause this show's confusing because there's Bradley and then Joe Bradley, but we call Joe Bradley Joey Marbles. Because he talks like he's got marbles in his mouth. But also he just sort of has marbles energy. Like he has marble. And like he somehow has the energy of a sack of marbles.

[Ben]

Or he seems like a marbler. Like someone who'd be like, one place the marbles Will. But it's mostly because he has marbles in his mouth. So now they're like, oh, my God, who's cheating? And then we see Will and a woman kissing on a boat. But we don't know if it's Emmy, but she is a thin blonde. But then again, so is 90 of Southern charm and Southern hospitality in Charleston in general. So, yeah.

[Ronnie]

And then there's just, like, a lot of talk back and forth about there's investigating and this and that. And, you know, the. Molly has something to say. She's like, apparently, allegedly not proven. He had a whole girl living with him. And because is Molly. Wait, who is Molly? Molly. Is Molly a new girl?

[Ben]

Yeah, we're just gonna have to go with this. So then TJ is like, again, it.

[Ronnie]

Was like five days ago, we watched.

[Ben]

This TJ, when he gets angry, gives the church lady from SNL back in the 80s, Dana Carvey. He was like, sin. And he's doing that right now. He's like, if he's cheating on Emmy, I'm Gonna figure it out. Satan. And then everybody. It's like the big gossip. Of course he's cheating. And guess what? So are all of your boyfriends. Welcome to Charleston. I don't think I've seen any of you date somebody that's not cheating on you. So welcome to the show, guys. Yes, he's cheating.

[Ronnie]

So. Three months earlier so now we see Bradley and TJ and Maddie and Joe Bradley. All the. All the classics. They all are showing up at Republic to clock in. We also meet Michaels, whose name is spelled Mickels and he's the new assistant general manager. He's like, tall and hot and. Please say he's only 21.

[Ben]

Yeah, please say he's into crafts, because my.

[Ronnie]

Yes.

[Ben]

Like, please.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God, that'd be so perfect.

[Ben]

He's adorable. He's gay. He's so cute. But I have to point out something before we get to the scene. Maddie goes, everyone's talking about whether he's cheating or not. And then Maddie goes, he took her to law prom.

[Ronnie]

I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist. Law prom.

[Ben]

And the girl that you were talking about, I think. I think you said Molly. But there was one girl who's gossiping like, he is a piece of shit and he's living with another girl and he's doing all this. Wasn't that the girl who said that Trevor TR. Make out with her that day? Remember? She was a huge part of the plot last season.

[Ronnie]

Sammy.

[Ben]

Yeah. Oh, that was Sammy. So it wasn't the same. It looked like the same girl who was like, yeah, but I have to tell you something.

[Ronnie]

It's coming back. Yeah, because I thought Molly reminded me of Sammy, but she sort of is like, from the Sammy Central casting. Right? Like, they had like, okay, we need to find a generic girl who maybe shopsic wins.

[Ben]

They're like, yeah, we need to find a girl who would never, ever hang out with these people, at least on camera. And then just get her gossiping about everybody.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, please do that. Law prom. I love that. Sorry, I pass forward over that because that was the funniest thing.

[Ben]

That's so good.

[Ronnie]

I mean, to. To law prom at. I say. I say. I say university. So they. People are showing up at work, clocking in and everything. And Michael's, because he's like a new assistant general manager. He's like, hey, what's going on? How's everybody? So for vip, we have ownership coming in. Okay. Ultra vip. So let's. Let's be on our P's and Q's, okay? So everyone should be good tonight. Okay? Rumor has it that Leah CEO may be stopping by, so everyone be ready, because she's in no mood. No mood.

[Ben]

That's my only complaint for this episode, is that there was no Leah CEO. What the hell? Where the hell is Leah?

[Ronnie]

Leah was, like, my favorite part of last season.

[Ben]

She got to show us a third year, and they don't even have her on. Fucking weird. Okay? And I also like that Michaels is so young and just obviously worked for where he got. Because everybody's like, michaels is amazing, and the whole town knows that. But I just like that he's so young and he's still, like, stealing management things just from a book, you know, like, things you say, guys, P's and Q's. We're totally minding our P's and Q's. Okay? You got time to lean, you got time to clean, guys. Okay? Denial wasn't just a river in Egypt. That table said that you hadn't been there. You haven't been there. Okay? Get over there.

[Ronnie]

He literally says, if you have time to lean, you have time to clean on this show. Like, that was the most triumphant moment of the year. I mean, it was just so wonderful. Yeah.

[Ben]

P's and Q's, guys. And it's ownership there every night. Why is it such a big deal that Leva comes in? Ownership is here, and she's rolling her eyes big, guys, P's and Q's.

[Ronnie]

Why are they acting like Elon Musk is coming in? Okay, it's Leva. It's Leva and her husband. They have nowhere else to go. It's either there or watching their kid make cookies again.

[Ben]

86 that bad energy. 86 that bad energy. Guess what tonight's special is. Ultra VIPs. And we're all serving it. We're all serving it.

[Ronnie]

So the big story with last year was that Emmy was working really hard and Maddie was focusing on her DJ career, and Emmy was like, I could do this job. And so she finally, finally was promoted to being, like, assistant manager or gvm, gbm, dbm, bbl. And she gets it, and then everyone gets mad at her. So this year, turns out, doesn't have the job anymore. She's like, well, I was very excited when I got my promotion last summer because I was like, I have finally proven that I was that bitch. And then we see last year about her getting promoted and everything. And then we see a flashback. She goes, but it didn't last very long. And we go to watch what happens live. And Emmy is sitting next to Leva and Andy, and he, like, for the reunion. And Andy's like, so, Emmy, are you not the AGM anymore? And Joe Bradley's like, no, no, she's not. She's not here anymore. No.

[Ben]

And Lev is like, yeah, because we open a new space. And Emmy was told, listen, we need you to go down the road to the new space. And she said, no. Dun, dun, dun. Well, yeah, of course she's gonna say no. She's not gonna go off of a TV show so she can be on some other stupid job of yours down the street. What do you think she's here for? Okay, she's here for the cameras, ma'am. So she's like, yeah, I want to stay Republic. That's some other chef. That's everything. That is, everybody. That is what I know.

[Ronnie]

It's the most important nightclub in all of America, and you want me to go to some random ass place down the street? I don't think so. So then Leva says, well, maybe it was a blessing in disguise because we found Michaels, and he's really a gem. And then we see Michaels being like, yeah. Hello, everyone. Jem speaking. I believe we only have table 10 open, so we really should be pretty booked up. God, he's so good.

[Ben]

Levin's like, God, he's nailing it. And the best thing is he's a toddler, so he even won't be able to leave. I took his. I took all of his. I adopted him. I've legally adopted him. He won't be able to leave here for another eight years.

[Ronnie]

All right, everyone, let's get active. Come on. Okay. Come on. AGM superstar. AGM here, people. Get active. Oh, my God. Is there anyone better than him? He's telling people to get active. So good.

[Ben]

Everybody. I want you to be a square in a customer's pocket and get buzzed. Do I? Do you hear me?

[Ronnie]

Always be closing. Always be closing. So good.

[Ben]

So now it's DJ music and Joe approaching the ladies and Maddie grab crafts of juices and mixers, and Jo's being like, hey, lady, how you doing?

[Ronnie]

And by the way, you know what makes me so happy? My favorite waitress is still there. She's not part of the cast, but she shows up in the corner of scenes. You know the one who looks like she's, like, 48 years old, and she just, like. She's like a young Cloris Leachman, the bowling alley person. The bowling alley Cloris Leachman. She's always off to the side being like, I guess I'll Serve. Oh, my God, I just love her. She says, like, two words a season, and she's just the best.

[Ben]

Did you see what dress Maddie was wearing today?

[Ronnie]

She has that bleach blonde hair and everything. Okay, Tuts. They want Shirley Temples. A table for. I'm not gonna serve them. I want a better tip. You do it, newbie.

[Ben]

So Molly. Molly's a new girl, right? We don't know who Molly is.

[Ronnie]

Look up. Who? Molly.

[Ben]

Molly's the blonde girl. She's a blonde. She's another blonde, remember? Because I just keep getting her confused with the. The new girl on Southern Hospital. Southern charm. So many blonde people, right?

[Ronnie]

New Molly. Yes. Okay.

[Ben]

She's like Sally, right?

[Ronnie]

Doesn't she look, like, really into casting? Like, they run. Listen, if you're gonna. If you're gonna make a splash on the Southern charm or Southern hospitality, you better have two L's in your name, okay?

[Ben]

You better have Val and then LL at the end of your name. Lee. So, Brad. So basically, Lake is there, too. We see Lake and she has a sparkler. And then we see Mickles talking to Leva. And he's saying hi, and he's like, yeah, it's crazy. We sold out the inside today. Don't lie to me, Mickels. Except for table 10. Thank you. That's a good boy. That's my guy right there. Pure professionalism.

[Ronnie]

Party, party, party. Oh, my God. Biggest party happening. And so Michaels is like, okay, what's going on? TJ and Molly are. Let me know if you need anything. Okay. Wow, he is so good at this job. Like, he is just like, he's going to win the hospitality awards. He's going to. He's going to go to law prom and be prom king. Yeah, he's not even going to law school. He's so good.

[Ben]

TJ's like, he's really hot. Look at that guy. Nice to look at it Work. Molly's like, yeah, I look like Sally. He's like, shut up. I wasn't. It was rhetoricals.

[Ronnie]

Be tolerant. Hot are Molly.

[Ben]

So Michaels goes to the kitchen and people are trying to figure out what's going on with the bubble maker. Because there's a bubble maker and it's not working. And Maddie's like, michael is. This is super important because they want a bubble maker and the bubble maker is not working.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it's been, like, janky, Like, l O fucking L. Am I right? And so then they had a sign, by the way, that said something like, have, like, bubbles. Bubbles and something. They spelled bubbles Like, I don't know What? There was, like, an A in there. I don't know. But the sign says verbals, baby. Is that what. Oh, Burbl's babies.

[Ben]

Sorry, Burbil's babies. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Bourbon bubble. And Maddie explains. Maddie explains her methodology of what she wants to do. She goes, the sign says bubbles on it. So I want to drop the bubbles. You follow?

[Ben]

Otherwise, all I know how to do is blow spit bubbles, and everyone's just gonna have to come around, come up with a lot of spit. It's gonna be weird. Michael's. He's like, we'll figure it out, guys. Oh, my God. He's amazing.

[Ronnie]

Like, hello. L. Like, I have an artistic vision. There's gonna be bubbles on the sign. Like, bubbles on the table. Like, why don't you get anyone? Don't worry, Maddie. We're gonna be on top of it. Oh, my God, you're so good.

[Ben]

Michaels, so mad. He's like, the first time I met Michaels, I was like, oh, my God. I met the love of my life, but he's gay, so now we're best friends. I was like, well, then does this mean he's problematic? Because the last time it was O Sheen, and I don't know. I don't know how that worked out. Is he even still there? Did they just bury Oisin?

[Ronnie]

Oshin probably went back to Tulum. So then we see Maddie and Michaels hanging out. It's really hard to say Michaels when his name is spelled Mickels. So that's Michelle Collins.

[Ben]

Isn't that, like, her email address or. I guess I shouldn't say that, but she goes. She has something that's like McCall right?

[Ronnie]

On her Twitter. It's her Twitter.

[Ben]

Twitter.

[Ronnie]

A lot of her social media is mishkal.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So Michael's fixes the bubble maker. Like, oh, my God. It's like he basically closed, like, the little door that keeps this open. And they're like, oh, my God, so good. He's so good. Baby genius.

[Ben]

He's like, next time, guys, slide the door open. Okay. How are you guys sober and you don't use your brain?

[Ronnie]

Also, what brain are we talking about? So then Brad was like, hey, where's the lighter? Table 4. And so then there it's like, more club and everything.

[Ben]

Everybody goes out with their sparklers. Like, well, we have sparklers. And the crowd's like, that's why we're vip, because they have sparklers here. Wow.

[Ronnie]

Got them like, five tequila shots. Sure. Oh, my God. Republic. Republic.

[Ben]

I like that. They put all they get people to dress in sequins and stuff and, like, put them in the front, but then in the back you still see like girls in like really bad cotton, like Target frilly Laura. And then the guys in their shorts and their polos and their backwards caps or whatever, they can't keep it. They're trying to make it one thing on tv. But guys, we still see eyes. You can't hide that.

[Ronnie]

We, we could see that Tommy Bahama walking in and that, like, Bass Pro shop hat turned backwards. Yeah, so. So Joe asked for something at the bar and, oh, Molly. Molly gives something to Joe. And TJ goes, thanks for serving him, because I'm not serving him. You know, for about four months now, Joe and I haven't spoken at all. I mean, I've gone over and vacuumed his floors, but I mean, who wouldn't? But either way, we don't talk.

[Ben]

And Joe's like, yeah, my beef with TJ first started in New York. So then we see flashback to five months ago. Watch what Happens Live. Well, Watch what Happens Live is getting a lot of play today. Where is Jeff Lewis and all? How has Jeff Lewis not pissed anybody off on this show? He doesn't respect us because they're like young waiters. I'll bet.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Next time we go on that show, we'll be like, Jeff, you need to have the Southern hospitality people on because Watch what Happens has taken back the reins. Is being like, I know.

[Ben]

I was so sad for him. I was like, oh, Jeff, it was such a fun, glorious career. Now it's over.

[Ronnie]

Get a good run. You really fucked up, Jeff. You really did.

[Ben]

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[Ben]

So now Andy is interviewing Luann and Joe Bradley. And Andy's like, great to see you. Have the two of you met? And Jo Bradley's like, not yet. She's like, never. Well, we just met, didn't we?

[Ronnie]

You see one of those cartoon clouds where you just see hands and boots coming out and it like, settles and then like, her hair, her wigs over on the side. So then four months ago, at the Southern hospitality reunion, did you sleep with the way TJ's like, I think you should be honest. I was like, are we. Is this gonna be the cornerstone of the feud? Joe Bradley sleeping with Luan.

[Ben]

Luan still got it over there, kid. And Joe's like, not hook up with Luan. Like, why did you even attenuate that? Why?

[Ronnie]

Joe definitely hooked up with Luann. TJ is so mad. Tj, you're a gay. This should be the proudest moment of your life. Your best friend hooked up with Countess Luann. You should be so grateful to be to be linked to that.

[Ben]

No Kidding. And also, gay people are always like, you're not supposed to out somebody. That's like, the worst thing in the world. If he fucked a guy and he's married, who cares? Let him fuck a guy and he's married. It's not our business to tell his wife. But if it's a guy fucking a girl, it's like, tattletale on him. Get him. I mean, doesn't everybody deserve a Right? Come on.

[Ronnie]

Maddie's like, joe hooking up with Luann is so iconic. And Grace Lilly. Grace Lily's like, luann is such a badass. I mean, who want. Who wouldn't want to fuck a cartoon from. From Family Guy? No, Grace Lee. That's not the Luann. Oh, I don't know who Luann is then.

[Ben]

So you're saying that Luann from Family Guy is still free?

[Ronnie]

I mean, I think it's amazing. I would fuck a country singer. No, that's Leanne Rhymes. That's different.

[Ben]

So then I fucked that ice cream too. That's Lee wins steal. So then Joe Bradley's like, yeah, well, so what if I did hook up with Wham? And then TJ's like, he was dating Danielle when he hooked up with Luann. That's the point. Oh, please. He knew Danielle for five minutes.

[Ronnie]

I forgot about the Danielle part. I forgot that this was actually a triangle. So TJ is mad that Joe got himself in a triangle with Danielle Oliveira from Summer House and Countess Luann from Roni, which is truly the funniest love triangle we've seen on Bravo in some time, if not the funniest we've ever seen.

[Ben]

Like, pretty awkward triangle.

[Ronnie]

It's weird. And the fact that it's actually having an impact on this show, where you would think they would have no idea who Candice Luann is and maybe not CEO and founder Danielle. I don't. It's. It's. It's amazing.

[Ben]

Yeah. So TJ's like, well, I was just giving him the opportunity to tell the truth because everyone knew. And like, well, why did you have a problem with TJ when the story was already on page six? Joe. And then we see the headlines, Luann, 58, and Joe, 28, all over each other. Damn, that's good. 30 years.

[Ronnie]

God, you go, amazing.

[Ben]

That's. That girl does Pilates for dinner. You know, she'll do it every day. That Pilates works. That girl can still smoke three packs of cigarettes a day and pull in these guys. Hot. She is an icon. So then Joe Bradley is like, well, because Page Six isn't one of my best friends. TJ betrayed my trust. He confirmed those rumors and sabotaged my relationship. I mean, right now, I could be with Danielle. Oh, well, look behind you. She's still standing right outside your window. So there's still a chance. She's just. Just turn around. It's just Danielle.

[Ronnie]

Danielle's like, why isn't Page Six writing about my love triangle with Joe Bradley and the balloon guy? Yeah. So TJ is like, I'm not saying what I did was right. However, this still. That still is no excuse for the nasty messages that Joe sent me. And then we see text messages from Joey Marbles, and it's like, oh. Oh, I hope you enjoyed your moment. Hope it was worth our friendship. You're a supporting character. And then he sends, like, a rat emoji.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Heartbreaking.

[Ben]

Heartbreaking supporting character. You're dead to me and my family. He's like, I never expected that that would end our friendship.

[Ronnie]

I'm never gonna make you Nani's chicken parmesan.

[Ben]

So he hasn't talked to Joe since New York. And then Michael sees them chatting, and he's like, what's up? You got time to lean? You got time to clean? Clean something. Come on.

[Ronnie]

I was like, I don't need to watch any more of this episode to know it's one of the best things that we'll see this entire year.

[Ben]

TJ's like, he's hot. I just totally got excited. My vacuum just hardened.

[Ronnie]

I didn't even know I was leaning. He's so good. So Molly's like, we got in trouble. I know. He's kind of hot. I kind of got excited. She's like, okay, calm down.

[Ben]

So the next morning, Bradley wakes up and finds a big old tacky ass eyelash on his bedside table. It is huge and glittery, and he's just looking at it like, what would this even fit on? You know?

[Ronnie]

I know. And then Michaels and Emmy are at Pilates and they're working out, and the instructor is like, is that floor tight? Okay, slowly send the carriage out as far as you can, and then give me three more each. And Michaels is like, three? And the instructor's is like, yes, three. Oh, my God, he is so good. Wow. Wow. He's so good at this.

[Ben]

Then we see everybody waking up and getting ready, which is. It's a young cast. It's everybody getting out of the shower, you know? And thankfully, they're doing it with these people and not Shep. Okay. These are the people I want to see. Get out of the shower, Shep. Retire, Shep, please. So we get to see some Joe Bradley, but in, which is great. And then we get some Trixie Monocle. And she's like, you can take your patriarchy, shove it where the sun don't shine. Cold mess. Other known as goddess. Snatching my crown. No contest. It's like, did Grace Lilly write this?

[Ronnie]

This sounds like a Grace Lilly, Jamie. I'm pretty sure it is. I exercise my right to say I am a work of art in every way.

[Ben]

So now Emmy and Will are gonna have a nice pretend breakfast. And by pretend, I mean he's gonna be pretending to not cheat on her, and she's gonna be pretending to eat the breakfast. So they're like, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you. You're amazing. You're amazing. You're a lawyer. You're gonna be a lawyer's wife. Oh, he.

[Ronnie]

You know, last summer we definitely had some doubters about our relationship. And we see flashbacks of last year. Everyone's saying, like, yeah, he made out, he made out with someone. And she's like, but now everything is good. So she orders a. She orders a mocktail. And then we find out Will's like, you've been a mocktail queen. She's like, yeah, it's been over eight months. I don't even think about anymore. I don't crave a drink ever. So her whole thing is that she stopped drinking and now she's doing the Kyle Richards working out, like, crazy thing.

[Ben]

And he doesn't like it, of course, and he's like, and now you work out all the time. She's like, it grounds me. Okay. My typical day right now is go for like a three mile run, and then I go to the gym for like another hour. Cardio, weight lifting, Pilates, High intensity, low intensity lifting my knee, putting my knee back down, Squats, glutes, you know, underarms, back, arms, tries bi's. You know how it goes. Great, great. I'm happy. I'm super, super happy. Me.

[Ronnie]

I'm totally not insecure about my relationship whatsoever. I'm not channeling all my emotions and rage into this working out. This is totally a healthy habit that I picked up. Totally, totally, totally.

[Ben]

And he's like, I just miss Republic, you know, like, so much camaraderie there, so many friendships, you know, and it's like, oh, my God, Joe couldn't be happier to have you in my. In his life again. He's like, yeah, I had to forgive him. Cuz, like, I'm a forgiver. And then we see flashbacks to them arguing last year. And because Joe was furthering this rumor that Will was cheating, he wasn't totally supportive in denying it for Will. So then Will's like, yeah, when he called me out of the blue and apologized, you know, he just changed his whole tone. And I understood that, like, I had a part to play in this, too. Wait, you cheated on me? No, I mean, getting mad that he got mad that I cheated on you, but never told you. So you cheated on me? No. Who told you that? Joe. Joe? I'm never talking to Joe again.

[Ronnie]

Hey, should we wake up early in the morning? Jump in the ocean? He's like, like, I'm too busy. I have, like, so much work at my dad's law firm, and I'm just like, I'm working, like, nine to five. What a way to make a living. Am I right? I don't get that. So then Will's like, the first year of law school has like, been probably, like, one of the hardest things I've ever done in my life. Like, do you know how awkward it is when you try to ring up someone's tap and they're like, what are you doing? You're in class. I'm like, yeah, I keep forgetting I'm not at a bar. It's so strange.

[Ben]

They don't like me there now with an internship. I just don't have moments off, you know? So, like, I don't think Emmy gets it. And then he's like, I'm so happy right now. You just make me feel so, so secure. Wait a minute. Let me lift this plate. Don't look away. I've got bigger muscles. It's going great.

[Ronnie]

I love how successful you were with your first year of law school, and I love being so accomplished and, like, being in a place I never thought we'd be. And, like, law prom, the best night of our lives. I'm just. I'm, like, so much more in tune with everything. Like, give me kiss, give me kiss, give me kiss that you love me, you love me, you love me. Oh, God. Okay. Okay. He still loves me. Okay.

[Ben]

And he kisses her, but also kind of looks towards the exit sign. Like, the signs are not looking good here, babe. So then Trixie's like, sunshine. Everything I want is a miracle I'm never coming down I don't want to worry Sunshine on my face I've got sunshine on my face I've got sunshine on my face I've got sunshine on my Ass. Just getting my face.

[Ronnie]

So TJ sits at a chair by a pool and FaceTimes MIA. And she's like, oh, my God, Pookie. Hey, what's up? She's like, I'm so excited to see you. I am like, completely booked. Sort of like your love life. Just kidding. Exact opposite. Oh, well, it's only gonna be three more weeks. So we find out that she has moved back to Trinidad and Tobacco Tobago, to basically join. She's running for Miss World, and so she's doing the pageant life thing down there.

[Ben]

Yeah, and I love a couple things first that people on this show don't. Aren't so fame hungry that they just stay on the show. Like, they don't care. Mia's like, bye, I'm moving. See you later. And then Grace Lily's like, I want more for myself. Bye. So she leaves. Like, people just leave. You know, it's crazy because most people are just like reality TV whores. Like, they're gonna stay forever. Guys and girls are gonna stay no matter what. And she's like, nah, I'm gonna join a beauty contest. You know? And also that they're so just fine with eating disorders. Cause she's like, like, yeah, basically I don't eat anymore. I have one cup of egg yolks in the morning and that's it. And Emmy was just like, yeah, I don't eat. All I do is work out now. Isn't it amazing? Like, this is such an odd shift from our, like, our current culture. You know, they're like, yes, eating the sortas it's called making an effort.

[Ronnie]

They're saying, unfortunately, that, like, the, like, fashion is embracing skinny, like, skinniness again. Because honestly, of that. Well, the. The. The article I read said is because of a zempic culture that people are like, like, down for skinny again. Because before it was like, no, like, you know, embrace curves, yada, yada, yada. But now people are like, skinny again. Which I think actually misses the point, I think of taking Ozempic probably. But either way. So it looks like, if anything, it looks like this might be another indicator of where. Where things are going.

[Ben]

Yeah, so that's her thing. She's gonna do that. She's still in love with hotness Troy. And then we see Troy, he's hot as fuck. And they're still basically boring. I mean, she needs to come back here and ruin somebody's life. Cause that's kind of what she does. But that's their thing. I love your husband. I love your boyfriend. Please have him shirtless on the show more.

[Ronnie]

I know. I'm so glad they're still together.

[Ben]

Like, do your job, you know? So then they start talking about how, you know, TJ immediately is gossip. And he's like, yeah, you know, I just feel bad for Emmy. Like, she's so small now. And, like, we both heard that, like, Will's running around badmouthing her behind her back, and she's like, oh, my God. Yeah, I heard that. And she says that Will was out at Republic obliterated, going up to people talking about how much he hates Emmy and hates his relationship, and she's so annoying.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I've heard that. He's just like, I don't think she's my person. Yeah. And that, like, now that she's sober, he's. She's, like, not fun anymore. Yeah. And the people he's telling that have, like, the loudest mouth. I know. Like, yeah. She's like, I found out about it the next day. People were in my phone telling me, like, oh, my God, Will has gone crazy.

[Ben]

And it's like, yeah, I'm gonna have a conversation with him, and I'm gonna say, you better tell her, because it's gonna get back to her. And, you know who's gonna tell her? I'm not gonna tell you right now, but you're gonna hear this before it's told. He rides up on a vacuum to tattletale.

[Ronnie]

So. Yeah. Because Mia's like, you know, I did that last year, and it was a big. I was a big bad wolf for meddling in their relationship. And so we see flashbacks of, like, them getting mad at Mia for trying to step in and fix the situation.

[Ben]

Yes. And so she's like, it's not coming for me. And he's like, well, I mean, it's just hard because she says how much she loves him. Like, how am I gonna ruin this life? Can't wait. Okay, I'll do it on FaceTime. Don't worry. You'll be able to see. So then we go to Grace Lilly's mother's house, and she's on the. She's sitting at the table writing a notebook. And the song is. You're living in the moment Wasting your time chasing stars.

[Ronnie]

Trixie didn't even bother trying to rhyme. Not this time. So Derby, her dog, is there, and Maddie comes over, and she's like, oh, my God. Can I just, like, walk in? Lo fucking L. It's like, hi. Where's my best friend? So they say hi and everything. And Maddie sees An envelope that says taxes on it. And, like, things like work expenses. She's like, oh, my God, Grace Lily, what are these, like, work expenses? Like, what work? Like, what are even taxes? Am I right?

[Ben]

What do you mean? Not to work? That's profit. Put it away. After five years of working at Republic Garden and Lounge, Grace Lily has exited the building. Grace Lilly's been doing modeling. And, you know, Grace Lilly just wants to do bigger things.

[Ronnie]

And we see her modeling, doing the Grace Lily thing. And Grace Lily is like. She's like, there is never any knowing of where Grace Lilly will jet off to. And I'm gonna rock with it. Some days I'm gonna jet off to downtown Charleston. And some days I'm gonna jet off to downtown Charleston. It's a wild world I live.

[Ben]

And she's wearing a bandana around her head. It just looks crazy. And Maddie's like, but I miss you at Republic. She's, I'm always gonna love Republic. But last summer, I took that time to focus on me, you know, as opposed to all the other times where I was focused on. I mean, mostly me, too, but it was different, you know? So I did an ayahuasca ceremony. I got to dive so deep into myself. I saw Bob Marley. I was like, bob, I love you, Bob. I'm always gonna spread the message of, like, ja. Like, I love him, you know? He's just. Just so great. He was so good in that movie called Bob Marley. It was a coincidence, right?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And then after I saw Bob Marley, I saw Bob Euchre. And I was like, hey, Bob, glad to see you're still playing baseball. And then he was like, what are you talking about? I said, I don't know. I don't even know how I know who you are. And then next. Next I saw Jesus. And Jesus said, hey, did you see Bob Euker? I said, yeah. Who is that guy? He said, said, I don't know, but he plays baseball and was on Mr. Belvedere. And I said, that's awesome. Can I go back to Bob Marley now? And Jesus said, no, no.

[Ben]

Then Jesus asked me, why haven't you said hi to Bob Barker? And I said, jesus, I don't approve of Spain and Neuter. And I say, let your dogs procreate.

[Ronnie]

Maddie's like, oh, shit. Maybe I need ayahuasca. Maybe you do.

[Ben]

You're the only person who watched that and thought, maybe I need to do that.

[Ronnie]

That I know. How has she not done it yet, by the way? You were in Tulum with O Sheen how have you not done ayahuasca? Hi, girl. How's your sex life with Joe, by the way? Jesus wants to know and. And she's like, oh, yeah, by the way, America, yes, I am dating Joe Bradley. Yeah.

[Ben]

So then we see two hours ago, they were rolling around the bed together. And Maddie's like, yeah, like, I've always liked Joe, and we work so well together, and we're, like, back best friends. And to make it romantic was such a risk, but I know he's been in love, me in love with me for years. Like, it used to be like I was too in love with somebody that didn't really love me the same, but now it's like reverse. And it feels so good. Like, you know who else that probably felt good too? Joe. Who's watching this at home right now?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I, like, wasn't into Joe until I realized he was, like, famous enough to be in a love triangle that made it to Page Six and thought, you know what? I could do this. So here I am.

[Ben]

His mom bought him a Costco card, which is pretty hot.

[Ronnie]

So they're like. We see flashback of them lying in bed, interlocking fingers, and she's like, so it was a rest. That totally has been worth it. I was like, what is the risk in sleeping with Joe Bradley? Like, there's. You're not even barely even working at this place anymore. So Grace Lily's like, you guys are totally all over each other, like, sucking each other's faces down like Slurpees. By the way, Bob Marley said, stop doing that. It's kind of gross. Kind of ruined the jaw vibe.

[Ben]

Yeah. And then Maddie's like, yeah, I had to get away from Trevor because, like, a light bulb clicked, so I never went back. Dun, dun, dun. And so then she's like, yeah, like, I trust him. But I'm like, push the brakes, Joe. Push the brakes, Joe. Maybe I'm just traumatized. Traumatized by my past with bicycle gondola drivers and Grace Lilly's like, yeah, as anyone would be. As I was after Jesus told me to be nice to a spare. I mean, who would say that? I'm so mad at Jesus right now.

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

You get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes of the Cotton Club Murder early and adventure free right now by joining Wondery Plus. So then we go to tj. He's cooking some bacon for himself, and Bradley comes in and he's like, hey, you didn't leave the key under the mat for me? You know I like that. Oh, just come on right in here, Bradley, I brought you. And he's like, oh, I brought you some wine. She's like, well, I just ate some breakfast. It's 2:00pm Yeah, I know. Wild night for me and my boyfriend, Mr. Invisible.

[Ben]

So his back hurts. So Brad's like, does it hurt from staying hunched over or were you bent over last night? He's like, oh, right. I haven't had sex in six months. Jesus. I can't even get any action from my vacuum. Every time the Roomba gets next to me, it just stops. Looks at me and turns away.

[Ronnie]

That's not supposed to be part of the AI. She says the dating scene in Charleston is horrendous. There's, like, one gay bar and, like, in the South. I just feel like everyone is still afraid to be who you are. And honestly, I haven't gone on a date in, like, two years. I'm like, well, maybe it's more about you than the. Than this gay bar in Charleston, but.

[Ben]

Wasn'T he just dating that guy? He was at the end of last season. I'm so confused. It hasn't been two years since they shot that, right?

[Ronnie]

No, but that's why I got so excited when there's an option. Like this whole Mickels Michaels thing. I told you about that story, right? Remember? Anyone? Is anyone listening to me? Who am I telling the story to? Oh, the vacuum.

[Ben]

Great.

[Ronnie]

Hey, vacuum. Remember the story.

[Ben]

Don't leave. Don't leave. Why did they make vacuums that could turn away?

[Ronnie]

Why does it go back to its dock so quickly? It just left the dock. The vacuum was like, I think it's pretty clean in here. I'm gonna go back to the dock. Good night.

[Ben]

This does suck, being the only gay. I mean, whenever you're a Gay. You know what that's like, being in a space with no other gay people. And then one other gay comes in and you both start looking up at each other, up and down, like, oh, my God, you're gay. Oh, God, you're not good enough. You're not smart enough. People do not like you because it's like you're bitter. It's like, that's my only fucking choice. And that's like, you. You're forced and was like, oh, my God, you're gay. I have a gay person I can introduce you to. And it's like, oh. It's like you naturally have to kind of hate each other because of the resentment you feel towards everybody else around you for not being gay, you know?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So TJ says, well, Bradley, a couple months ago, I got drunk one night and I kissed. I kissed Michaels. And I thought, well, I didn't really kiss him. I just took out my dustbuster. I was just trying to get something off of his tie and it got onto his lips and that's kind of counts, like a kid. Anyway, I just. I felt bad because he, like, Ubered me home, and then I just got.

[Ben]

Out and he's like, yeah. And I think he thought he was getting out with me. Bradley's like, wow. And you're just like, all right, bye. What a dick. He's like, well, I mean, obviously there's chemistry because, like, literally, we're each other's only options. So it's like being on a deserted island and asking yourself if you're going to eat the first pineapple that floats up. I mean, you kind of have to.

[Ronnie]

Also, like, I, like, I don't think I could date a 21 year old. I'm like, 23. It's like that age gap is like. It's insurmountable. Right.

[Ben]

And Bradley, how old is he? He's like 30. Right?

[Ronnie]

He's probably 32 or 33, something like that.

[Ben]

That does seem like a lot when you're, you know, when you're 30. But then if you're in LA or somewhere, like, I guess you don't have to be in LA really. It's just men. But then when you're 40, you're like, oh, 20. 21's totally natural. I'm 60. Oh, so she's not in college or she's halfway through college. So, yeah.

[Ronnie]

Also, tj, you don't have to date him. He's fucking hot. Let him come out of the Uber with you. You just have to have a night.

[Ben]

Yeah. But, you know, you don't want to look like an old gross perv either. I mean, I don't mind, but obvious. I'm not talking from a personal point of view. Okay? I do not mind.

[Ronnie]

So a few weeks ago, Michaels asked me if I want to get dinner, but we started talking about, like, oh. He started saying like, oh, I have class tomorrow. And I'm like, like, he has class tomorrow. He's in college. Education's frowned upon at Republic.

[Ben]

It's disgusting, isn't it?

[Ronnie]

We saw what happened with Will.

[Ben]

So I'm focusing on myself this summer, which has been great. Unlike last summer when I focused on myself and every other day. I love that everyone's goal on the show is to focus on themselves. You guys have focused on nothing else. Okay? He's like, well, my issues are when I like somebody, I put them first instead of myself. And Bradley's like, you know, go to therapy. And he's like, well, I've been in therapy. Thanks for asking, Bradley. And he's like, well, it's just weirdest because now Joe and Maddie are dating. You know, like, make it make sense. He's like, oh, well, gee, must be nice having options.

[Ronnie]

And then we see flash to last night as Joe grabs Maddie's shoulders. They pass each other working at Republic, and they smile at each other. You know, it's just like, like crazy to me that someone that has so much self control and discipline, sober for 10 years, chooses to be with a person similar to Trevor. Like going out and drinking and cheating. Joe's a cheater. Joe's cheated on every relationship he's ever been in. I was like, okay, this is. This is. This is a bridge too far. Just because she's been sober doesn't mean that she can't get with Joe Bradley.

[Ben]

Yeah. And I mean, I get what he's saying and that that's a similar type. Like, why are you leaving one. One loot, like one cheater for another cheater? But like I said earlier, it's Charleston. I mean, it's in the water there. Who doesn't cheat?

[Ronnie]

I mean, I. I know. I think that Joe Bradley will cheat, but I don't think he's gonna do mind games the way the other Trevor was doing.

[Ben]

He'll probably be like, you wanna fuck? When? With me? It's gonna be so great.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it'll just be a straight, straight up cheating. It'll just be a, like, right on. It'll be a very on the nose cheating.

[Ben]

Yeah. So TJ is also way too invested And I think it's hard, too, like, kind of being the gay in the relationship with a bunch of guys, because you're friends with a girl, too, and so it's not kind of like a brother before hoes or misters before sisters or whatever. You can't. It's hard to choose because, like, you're still friends with the guy, but you're like, I need to warn this girl what this guy is. You know what I mean?

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

But also, you've. Well, never mind.

[Ronnie]

Time.

[Ben]

Sorry. No, I'm going.

[Ronnie]

He's way too invested. He's too invested. He's gotta let his friends make their own mistakes, and he can just focus on the vacuum. Yeah. So now we go. Trixie. Watch me go, go Never slow, slow. I mean, that was pretty obvious. I can't believe, Paul. All these years we've making songs, how we never write that lyric before. I mean, how did we never do that?

[Ben]

Well, actually, we did have Watch me go never slow. That's right. That's why. But we didn't have Watch me go go Never slow Slow, so. Shut the up, Paul. All right? Don't question me.

[Ronnie]

Paul.

[Ben]

I'm sorry.

[Ronnie]

I said Paul. You know what? It's not called Wake me up before you go. It's working. Before you go go.

[Ben]

We've already done that.

[Ronnie]

You should know. Oh, look at that. I just did it. Watch me go, go Never slow, slow. You should know. No.

[Ben]

So Michaels is, you know, locking up the doors and putting menus away and turning on the neon light and then.

[Ronnie]

So talented.

[Ben]

Yeah. He's like, so good at this, you guys. So he's like, yeah, Levin, Lamar, call me the beast because I'm 21 and I'm running their nightclub. Dun Dun Dun. Really? Because we're all kind of calling you sucker because I think they have you doing that because they. How many hours are you working? I'll bet they're abusing you. You tell me where, Leah. Tell me where Leva hurt you.

[Ronnie]

So then he's like, talking to the staff. He's like, hi. Make sure you're coming in on time and in dress code. If you're planning on leaving, you always ask me. Oh, he really has this place on lockdown. Gotta say. Wow. So good.

[Ben]

So before Republic, he was working as a bar back at clubs, and ownership was like, you're way too pretty to be doing this. And I'm like, obviously, I'm way too pretty to be doing this. Just look at me.

[Ronnie]

Emmy's, like, posing. He's like, yeah, so Emmy. Emmy and Molly walk in. They're in that back room.

[Ben]

That.

[Ronnie]

And Emmy's like, someone's sucking on her titty and she's got a hickey. I gotta cover it up. And Mickels is like. Michaels is like, meow. And Molly is like, it's not a real hickey, everyone. So they're just.

[Ben]

This is really bothering me, this whole, like, I'm too hot to be a bar back. Listen, no one's too hot to bring me a bottle of Tito's, so you're fired. How dare you? Okay, I'll get over it. It's passed, and it's time to let it go. So then TJ comes in, and he's decided since they're started. They started shooting, and he's so lonely at this point, he's like, here's some coffee. I got it for you. And Mickels is like. Or Michaels is like, thanks. Well, we're just gay. We like. We like Starbucks. So.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Because the girls are mad that TJ didn't get them coffee. So. But the thing is, this is sort of like a weird mood. Like, it's like a weird, like, flirtation, you know? And he's like, turns his flirtations on and off. And like, so. So the girl's like, where's our coffee? And he's like, whatever, girls. So then. Then tj, like, takes off his shirt to put on the Republic One. And Emmy's like, oh, wow. Oh, wow.

[Ben]

Michaels keeps looking. He kind of looks over. He kind of keeps, like, catching glances of him and stuff, which is cute. I like that he likes him. That's pretty cute.

[Ronnie]

I mean, I have to say, for all the shit talking about tj, there is something sort of revolutionary about the storyline on Bravo. Because really, gays are. Are. Are almost always sidekick status. And if they're not sidekick status, they rarely have, like, a love interest who's like a main cast member the way all the straight people do. And, like, I think this is like, the first time we've ever seen two gays who are like, fully cast members who have romantic tension.

[Ben]

Yeah, I think so. I think so, too.

[Ronnie]

Pretty cool.

[Ben]

I mean, except for Vanderpump Rules, but they were in the class. They're still straight, technically, so. And a couple below decks, let's face it. But yeah, out. Out of the closet. Yeah, for sure. So now they're prepp. They're prepping the restaurant, bar, whatever it is. And Austin, that's who I was calling Luke earlier, Austin, the new bartender, is like, hi, I'm Austin, I have a mustache. And Michael's just like, yeah, he's going to be training today. And TJ goes, oh, I know who he is.

[Ronnie]

You know each other. He's like, yeah, what's up? And so he reached. He like. Like he and Austin, like, have a hug. And Austin's like, you smell like almonds. And Michaels is like, oh, my God. TJ's like, I told you I knew him. He knew I always smell like almonds.

[Ben]

I met Austin a couple of years ago, and I wouldn't say he's like, a lot of guys in Charleston. And then we see clips of Austin's shirt. Listen, the woods bench pressing logs. He's like, yeah, guys, welcome to my Insta. Today you don't need a gym. You know what you need God's gym logs.

[Ronnie]

Oh, God, I'm sorry. For all his Facebook friends who have to hear ceaselessly about his CrossFit.

[Ben]

Oh, and his Rock deodorant.

[Ronnie]

Oh, goodness. And his. You know, he had the most annoying updates about watching, like, Mike Tyson and Jake Paul. He's like, guys, watch the big fight tonight.

[Ben]

So he's like, guys, it would be nice if Netflix's streaming was consistent. Am I right.

[Ronnie]

Guys? I just rediscovered this show, Two and a Half Men. So funny.

[Ben]

So then, let's see. He's like, yeah, it's into lifting logs in the woods. So I don't really know why, but, you know, whatever he's doing, it's working for him. He's hot and he sure is, you know, but he's one of those people that's hot. But he's like, saying goodbye to youth and he's trying to, like, hold on to it as hard as he can by, like, growing a mustache and.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Putting log videos on Instagram. You know, in two years, he'll be fine with it. He'll be bald and just, you know, have a little potbelly and just start being in 20 year olds, you know, telling him he has money.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I love his. I love his. His little trick, though, of you smell like almonds. That's a good line because I think everyone will be like, oh, thank you. Yeah, it's so specific that people will be like, oh, thanks, that's just me.

[Ben]

Well, I hope it's because of our tj. I believe in you.

[Ronnie]

I mean, last time I checked, I'm the only one here whose last name actually means almonds. Thank you, Mandel Mandela.

[Ben]

Oh, yeah. My last name means humble. No, that's not true. My middle name means Humble Rondell Humble carom.

[Ronnie]

My first name means king, so King Almonds over here.

[Ben]

King of almonds, yes. You're in the wrong business, babe.

[Ronnie]

King of almonds. Thanks for smelling me through the tv, Austin.

[Ben]

So Emmy and Maddie are have a scene wiping down menus. And I was like, fuck yeah, I miss this. So they do it. And Emmy's like, got you a rag, girl. And she's like, thanks. So Michael's birthday is coming up. What are they going to do? Maddie's like, yeah, I want it to be a theme. Like the weather's getting really warm and I feel like a summer kickoff pool party. You know, like a theme. Like pools parties, pool party. I don't know, something like that.

[Ronnie]

Like, what about, what about bikinis and trucker hats? Cool. I don't think that's like a theme. It's more like a dress code but like, cool. Yeah, because I think that like, I think Michael deserves the best birthday ever. He's genuine. He's a genuine person who cares. And he like puts his heart and soul into everything he does, including being hot and a good manager. Man's like, yeah, it's so nice that Michaels is also friends with Emmy and, and like, and he brought us together and closer together. And I feel like it's like really nice to be in a good place with Emmy again. Just like, like wiping down menus, giving her rags and stuff like that.

[Ben]

And Emmy's like, yeah, because underneath all the, like, it was really hard being friends with her last year because she was dating a piece of, you know, and it's hard when I'm dating a piece of and she's dating a piece of. Like, how many hiding of pieces of can we do? But now since I'm the only one still dating a piece of, we can be friends again.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I think this is gonna be a really fun party. So now, you know, the lounge opens up, Lake comes by and she's saying hi to and you know, Austin is like asking about how to make a drink and you know, like, it's like, oh my God. Are you like training him? Molly's like, yeah, I'm training him. So Molly's being hard ass with them.

[Ben]

She's like, I don't even know if he can pour drinks yet. We'll see. Log man. We'll see.

[Ronnie]

Smell like almonds.

[Ben]

So then Austin's like flirting with the, with the girls and stuff. And then Maddie can't uncork a bottle bottle. And she's like, brad, it's one of those like up bottles. He's like, I got you, baby.

[Ronnie]

One of those up. This bottle's like, up. Like, hello. L. Who made this bottle?

[Ben]

This bottle has something stuck in it, Brad. It's a cork, Maddie. Yeah, that's what I mean. Get it out.

[Ronnie]

So he. He uncorks it, and he also says that he and Maddie are good. It's pretty much like, like, he's like, you know what? I'm not gonna like, keep talking. I'm not gonna keep holding on to the past because, you know, last year they got into a big fight about the dumpster and everything.

[Ben]

Getting his dick sack next to the dumpster. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Yep. As long as I don't talk about Blowjob Alleyway and he doesn't talk about my relationship, we're cool.

[Ben]

So then outside the bar, Molly's doing her training and he's like, I have no idea what's going on, you know? And I'm cool with that. She goes, yikes. Better not be cool with it for long, log man.

[Ronnie]

So then Maddie is like sitting on a chair and Emmy, like, is touching up her eyeliner and Michael's. They're in the back room and Michaels walks in and he looks like he's just seen a ghost. He goes, I am feeling very numb right now. It's like, oh my God. Anti lol. Are you okay? He's like, I am. Am literally internally shitting myself right now. And my heart is beating out of my chest. I am gonna myself.

[Ben]

I'm like, literally dead right now. I'm so dead, Haley. Old Haley Joel Osment would see me under the bed. Like, I am that dead. I'm like a dead person who just himself. Like, it's crazy. And she's like, why? He goes, because T.J. brought me coffee.

[Ronnie]

And then. And then we see a flashback. I brought you coffee. And Maddie goes, so did you drink it? Oh, no. She goes, so drink it.

[Ben]

And he's like, wait, but like, it's not just coffee. Duh. And he goes, yeah, cuz we were in an Uber. And he kissed me and I was just like, whoa, what is this going to be? What does this mean? But then we never talked about it. There was like, never a conversation. There was like, never a. Like, what is. Oh, I kissed you. There was never that. And now here I am covered in shit that smells like coffee because I drank coffee before I shit myself internally, of course.

[Ronnie]

And Maddie goes, wait, what would that conversation have to do with them? I don't understand what's going on. And Emmy's like, wait, what's his intention. What does he want? If DJ is not interested, then it's just wasting both of their times. Why would he give him coffee? And Matt Michaels is like, yeah, like, cool, thanks for the coffee. But, like, what are we doing? I am, like, shitting. I just vomited inside of myself. I am losing it.

[Ben]

He must, like, have breakdowns when he passes sample people at Costco. That lady just gave me a quarter of a cookie and then nothing. Not even, what's your number? I'm too hot for this.

[Ronnie]

She literally gave me a sample of Quest iced coffee in a Dixie cup. I'm like, are you coming onto me? Because I thought this. We were chill. And now I'm like, like, what is happening?

[Ben]

So then. So from how he's acting, I thought he was going to be like, that guy fucking kissed me in the cab. Like, what the fuck? I didn't even know that was coming. Like, where the fuck did that come from? Yeah, but he's not at all. He's like, that felt like a date. And then he. Then he kisses me and then he just drops me when I'm developing feelings. And I was like, oh, my God, this is so cute. I was like, a gay storyline on here. I can't believe it.

[Ronnie]

I know. And I was like, wait, Michael's the hot guy is pining after tj? I mean, TJ is cute.

[Ben]

TJ is the hottest guy. Michael's the hotel.

[Ronnie]

But normally it goes the other way where it's like, Michaels is the hot guy and like, the. The introvert, the one who's awkward, who can't quite find his place in the gay world, is gonna pine after Michael's the unattainable one. But wait, it's going the other way around. I was like, I love it.

[Ben]

Yeah, pretty cute. So he's like, yeah, there was never a conversation. Like, there was never like, I mean, what's going on here? And so he's like, he's playing games. And I'm not here for that game. The coffee I'm kind of here for. I would have preferred some heavy cream because it doesn't take me out of ketosis, but otherwise, whatever.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, like. Like, what's up with these games? Like, just be straight up. And Maddie's like, yeah, he's kind of a pussy, to be honest.

[Ben]

So now Maddie and John Bradley or Joe Bradley arrive at a place called the Pickle Bar. And I was like, oh, no, pickleball.

[Ronnie]

I'm really excited to play pickleball. Yeah, you're definitely better than me. And Like, I'm afraid to play sports again. Oh. And so. Oh, wow. Look, we have a private core. Are you kidding me? I'm like, yeah, that's how pickleball courts work.

[Ben]

You get it for your group, the private court. He's like, there's not even traffic on this court.

[Ronnie]

That's crazy. That was great. I mean, I got my own paddle. Wow.

[Ben]

So last time I played pickleball was in a crosswalk. Pickleball.

[Ronnie]

It's pretty good.

[Ben]

It was pretty good. I mean, it's still fun, you know, it was hurtful. Like, I got hurt a lot. Basically. I just, like, hit a pickle at a ball. It was kind of gross. It smelled. I got a ticket.

[Ronnie]

I thought pickleball was going to be like law prom. It was just like, where pickles go to have a formal dance.

[Ben]

So he's like, yeah, I'm like, the luckiest guy in the world. That madly wreath agreed to love me.

[Ronnie]

Back, and now here we are.

[Ben]

And pickleball.

[Ronnie]

I might not use the word lucky, but something. So Joe's like, yeah, I feel like, like, some guys do pickleball to get away from their wives. And, like, I want to be with my future wife here. She's like, ah. The only thing I could do was, like, wait out and be patient. And then, like, in New York, she was like, come here. And, like, she grabbed me and, like, kissed me right in the mouth. And, like, since that moment moment, like, we're pretty much against, separable. And I've, like, never been happier in my life, except until, like, I just found out we have our own private pickleball. Like, actually probably number one moment.

[Ben]

So Will and Emmy come and was like, whoa, how weird is it that we're on, like, a double date? Like, I mean, if you told me last summer, I would have, like, laughed at that. Like, what world did I leave and go to school and then come back to? I mean, you guys are gross. Okay, so was there a crossover? Like, were you still with Trevor when you started with Joe? And then Joe just, like, slams a pickleball into his chest. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry, bro.

[Ronnie]

Don't speak that name in this sacred court. Sacred private court, I'd like to add. And so Will's like, okay, couples, whatever, blah. So pickleball. They're gonna play some pickleball, and they're gonna play pickleball pickleball.

[Ben]

And the girls are badass. And Maddie's really good. And so Maddie's, like, playing too hard. She's doing that thing where she. You hit the ball and tennis, you're.

[Ronnie]

Like, she's doing too much.

[Ben]

She wins. So she wins handily. And so she's like, I spent too many years in rehab not to be good at pickleball. I mean, not to be good at ping pong. And this is basically like ping pong in real life. Yeah, I like that. In rehab it was ping pong in, like, dreamland, but out here it's ping pong in real life.

[Ronnie]

So they wind up going, no, actually, it's even better.

[Ben]

I'm sorry to interrupt you. She goes, and pickleball is a human version of that. That.

[Ronnie]

Yes. Before we were playing with robots, but now we stepped up human ping pong. So they basically Will's like saying, like, I can't get over how weird this is. You guys are like a cute couple. Like, do you guys cuddle and stuff? Like, I'm really confused. Yeah, we cuddle. Oh, something just fell over. It is so windy here. It is a windy ass day here in Los Angeles, and something fell over outside. It sounded like thunder. It's scary.

[Ben]

Oh, wow.

[Ronnie]

But you know what's not scary?

[Ben]

I'm looking. My ring cam.

[Ronnie]

Joe and Maddie.

[Ben]

Well, what. It's funny that you're saying that right now, because in this scene, they're inside now and they're, like, eating and stuff. And they're like, wow, it's getting really bad out there. And then they just show outside, and it's a full hurricane. There's like a car flying. Like, you see the cow fly across the screen. And they're like, yeah, whatever. So.

[Ronnie]

And there are people, like, still out there. They're, like, running in. You just, like, fly off into the sky, like, never to be heard from again. It is crazy what's going on out there. Yeah, like, yeah, it's crazy. Anyway, so they start talking about the party coming up. And Maddie's like, by the way, have you guys seen each other since New York? You and tj? And Joe's like, yeah. I mean, like, oh, wait, no, sorry, you're talking about me and Will. Yeah. I mean, you stopped by their club a few times. And then Will looks down, looks sad, but also guilty because he knows what he said when he was at the club and he got wasted and talked about Emmy.

[Ben]

Yeah. And he's like, yeah, this is so painfully awkward because, like, a few months ago, Will come from the Republic saying the worst things possible about his own girlfriend. But, like, last year I expressed my concerns about their relationship. Flashback to that. I have concerns about Your relationship. And I'm dressed like Aladdin, so you have to listen to me.

[Ronnie]

I heard there's a rumor that will make that old girl. So I've learned my lesson. And guess what? This year, like, nothing's coming out of my mouth. Mouth this episode, but maybe next week it probably will.

[Ben]

So was like, I just want to have a happy summer because, like, I'm an intern at a law firm, and it's, like, really stressful, and it would be great if my boys were friends. He's like, yeah, but my thing with tj, like, our relationship and our past, it's, like, so comfortable. It's gotten, like, almost like, well, yeah.

[Ronnie]

You don't talk when you're in the same room. Like, what the is that? That? He's like, yeah, well, I told him a secret that I made out with Luan, and he said to the grave. And I was literally, like, best friends and married with him two weeks before that. And then this comes out of nowhere, and he blindsides me with it. Like, that's how I feel. Betrayed.

[Ben]

And he has a right to, I think. And then he's like, that guy. I trusted him. And he goes, and I can't trust him anymore. And I know that he's going to come into my relationship and try to, like, like, sabotage. No, no, that's not it. Like, recon, filify. Sabotage.

[Ronnie]

No.

[Ben]

What's it called when, like, someone's, like, trying to. With your relationship? Sabotage. No. Yeah, sabotage. Damn it, Joe.

[Ronnie]

He's, like, trying to sabotage it. Like, he has, like, with all my past relationship lips. It's, like, not just the Luan thing. That made me, like, not trust tj. Last year, there was Solid. Remember? Solid.

[Ben]

Then we see a flashback to TJ being like, oh, my God, she totally made out with somebody right before she ate your grandma's. Your nana's chicken.

[Ronnie]

Wow. You know, like, you met out with him right before our day. Like, that makes me sick.

[Ben]

Solid Sally, who passed that audition on to Southern charm.

[Ronnie]

Congratulations. So Joe says, why on God's green earth would I go back to someone who tries to. What's the word? Emulsify. Sabotage. Right, Whatever.

[Ben]

So Will's like, you don't have to be friends with them, but, you know, like, I can't be put in the middle of this. So Maddie's like, I'm not put in the middle. And I'm like, totally still friends with tj. So what? Joe's issues with TJ happened way before Joe started dating. Joe and I started dating. So they're like, not my issues. And, like, I learned from my last relationship not to let my relationship affect my friendships.

[Ronnie]

I think it's different. Like, he's bitching at me for being friends with you. It's like, TJ is. Yeah. And Joe. Bradley's like, he's like a 32 year old, and he's like, don't be friends with Joel because I'm not friends with him. Like, is he that petty, like a middle school girl? Girls are stupid. That's fucking crazy. That's weird.

[Ben]

And Will's like, yeah, but taking sides is always a shitty thing to do. So. So now we're all getting ready for Michael's party, and Lake shows up at Michael's home with coffee, which he shits himself. Physically shits himself. Like, I can't take out. I'm too hot for this.

[Ronnie]

I am, like, literally on the inside. She brought me a coffee. Like, what does this mean? I thought, like, Lake and I were cool, but does she even know I'm gay? Like, I am losing it.

[Ben]

And then Bradley's over at TJ's, and TJ comes out in a T shirt that says joe's best Friend.

[Ronnie]

And then Bradley's like, huh, I knew you were gonna do some stupid shit like that. And then we go to the Ryder Hotel. And so, hour before this big party, and Joe and Maddie, they come in with these. This, enormous, like, collection of balloons. They're, like, struggling. They're getting through all the doors. They go through the hallways. They go outside. And Joe's like, all right, let's not let any of these balloons fly away. I'm gonna attach this Bic pen to the bottom. That should weigh it down pretty good.

[Ben]

I'm gonna weigh it down. Does anybody have a shoelace I could just tie around that? So. And then there's a lot of Mylar here. I'm just gonna say there's a lot of Mylar, okay? It's a lot of sea creatures being harmed by this. And birds. Okay. There's a lot of death about to happen because of these stupid balloons. I thought those were outlaws.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know if they're. I don't know. I don't know if they're outlawed. Lot outlawed. I think you're just not supposed to release them. Although out into the sky. I think that's. I don't know. At least according to Karen Huger. So they. I forgot to mention Joe's big joke, which is that he steps out of the car with all the Balloons. And he's like, oh, Maddie, I'm flying away. Help. Just kidding. I wasn't flying away. The balloons were. Balloons weren't enough to fly me away.

[Ben]

Guys, here's where I got it. Breaking news. Breaking news right now. Watch what happens. Everybody, hold, please. Mylar balloons are to be banned in California by 2031. So enjoy your giant, sparkly penis balloons now, because in six years, you're. They're done. We're not gonna have you. We're not even gonna have birthdays anymore. Okay?

[Ronnie]

Mylar's over.

[Ben]

Mylar done. Mylar's the past.

[Ronnie]

So they go in with the balloons, and Maddie's like, don't let go. The balloons, okay? You're gonna this up. Don't let go.

[Ben]

They're not gonna let go. I'm totally gonna wait him down. Hey, can I use that napkin to weight down these balloons?

[Ronnie]

And we see that, like, last week, Emmy and Maddie went to Party City to get balloons. And because he's turning 22, Emmy holds up two balloons that say they're both, like, number two balloons. And Maddie goes, that's perfect. I was good. 25. And I was like, wait a second. What about 22? You're so good.

[Ben]

So then he's like, oh, my God, let's look at Funhouse in here. They've made all these trucker hats that say, like, michael's the best or something. Michael's amazing. Michael's 22. And then there are all these blue. She goes, could you put the balloons under the umbrella? And so he does. And she's like, this is like the eighth time I've been slapped in the face by these things. Stupid balloons. So they start, you know, doing other stuff while he's weighing them down with, like, a, you know, a little bracelet he found on the ground or something.

[Ronnie]

Like, nothing. And she's like, they're gonna fly away. He's like, no, they're not gonna go anywhere. I weigh them down with an ant. So then Maddie's like, okay, well, I thought we were gonna separate the balloons. Like, no, we gotta do the sign first. I printed it off of my Apple IIG's that I found in the basement. Come on.

[Ben]

So they start putting up a banner, and then the balloons fly away. Of course. They're like, bye. Joe. Joe, Joe, Joe. You fucked up. Joe. You fucked up. Joe. Joe.

[Ronnie]

They were moving over, Joe. Balloons. They're little balloons. Think about that.

[Ben]

Why?

[Ronnie]

Come on, don't cry. They're balloons.

[Ben]

Don't cry.

[Ronnie]

But. Just cry.

[Ben]

You can't cry. Over balloons? Yes, I can. I'll go get some more balloons. You got to just get more balloons. You know how hard it is to go like balloons done. You have to order the balloons. You have to tell the people about the balloons. You have to come up with the idea for the balloons. You have to wait three days for the balloons. You have to go pick up the balloons. Joe, he really.

[Ronnie]

I was at the party store for six hours, Joe. Like literally six hours. I mean, to be fair, was a DJ set, but come on, Joe there.

[Ben]

For so long and he's like, you were getting ballooned for six hours, okay? That's when you die. You know what I mean? You're the one who released the balloons. Now's not the time to be getting fresh, sir.

[Ronnie]

Okay, okay. Cuz guess what? We've all been to party city or party stores. And guess where joy goes to die. Party stores. And we've all been in those lines. And you sit there and you're like, I just all that this should have been a five minute thing. I just get balloons and then you're there for 45 minutes, an hour, 90 minutes, just trying to get the balloons. I actually was totally team Maddie on.

[Ben]

This, a hundred percent.

[Ronnie]

She's like, ah, the balloons.

[Ben]

Well, it's always the one who didn't do anything. He was like, it's not a big deal. It is a big deal. Now what do you have? Nothing. Trucker hats. And she probably did those too.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she probably spent. She spent money on those. Balloons are expensive. He's like, well, the balloons are gone. You know what are under the bridge? Balloons are over the bridge. They're over. They're over the Ravenel. They're gone. He's like, I'll get you some more. It'll take 10 minutes. She like, no, it won't. I'm telling you. It took me a week to get the balloons. Those balloons were back order for 23 years. Like Global supply chain. I only just got those. I ordered those balloons in 2021.

[Ben]

She's like, this is the day of my life, Joe. So then people start coming and say hi. You know, everybody's starting to arrive. And Austin's like, I wanted an espresso martini. And Molly's like, oh my God, did you say espresso? And I'm training you. Oh, hell no, trainee. You better drop and give me 30 logs, you fucking moron. It has an S, not an X.

[Ronnie]

First person on Bravo to ever say these words.

[Ben]

I know. I can't believe they even let her on Here, they're like, guys, it's a new generation on Bravo. How are we going to get this across? Have someone stand up against espresso.

[Ronnie]

So Grace Lily shows up. He's like, hey, Grace, how are you? I miss you. I miss you at work. I miss you in life. Well, it ain't happening without me, Okay? I just saw Terry Garr, and she says, who the are you? And I was like, oh, God, you are so funny, Emmy.

[Ben]

So Emmy comes and she's like, hello. And Jo's like, hey, Emmy, can you keep a secret? Yeah. We drive here with balloons, and as we're setting up the sign, the balloons flew away.

[Ronnie]

Emmy is like, are you kidding me? I skipped leg day to get those balloons. Leg day.

[Ben]

Emmy is horrified, which I like. She's like, she gets it, you know? She's like, how could you do that to my friend? So now TJ and Bradley come and. Let's see. So Joe Bradley's still talking about the balloons. He's like, I've never seen a show try to talk about balloons. And then we see Maddie holding her cell phone in a drink, like, stressed out. She's like, where's Michael? I cannot wait. I'm so upset that I have to tell him about the balloons.

[Ronnie]

So then TJ and Bradley walk in and say hi and everything. And then Joe Bradley's standing around, and he's like, you know, he didn't get a hello from tj, so, you know, it's awkward. And he's. He's like, it's one thing to ignore each other at work. I mean, there's rules at work, like, but we're at a party. Like, immediately I get negative energy from him. It kills my vibe. Yeah.

[Ben]

So they're awkward.

[Ronnie]

So bothered. Why don't you go say hi?

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly. Because I think he knows how TJ is. Because TJ's, like. He walks in and kind of keeps looking back at you, like, yeah. It's making it very obvious. So then Bradley is talking to Grace Lily. He's like, how are your vibes, Grace Lily? They're doing good. I made Jesus cry last week on accident, but he kind of deserved it. How are you? He goes, are you wavy, baby? She's like, I'm getting my booty back.

[Ronnie]

And Bradley's like, yeah, I was about to say I saw Jiggle when he walked in. And I was like, like, damn, Grace is coming back. Yeah, Grace is coming back. So they're all just, like, having fun and everything. And then Michael's. Michael shows up. Who he seems. I don't know if this was supposed to be a surprise party or not, but he seemed very unsurprised by the whole thing.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And he's, like, saying hi, so everyone's coming around him, and everyone's, like, saying hi and being like, oh, my God. Michael's. They're all hugging, and TJ does that weird thing where he's like, I'm gonna be separate, Brett. So he, like, goes and gets a drink. Like, well, everyone's hugging. He goes and gets a drink for Michael's because he's like, I'm gonna be the guy gets him the drink. So I'm like, I'm not gonna be there to hug him because I'm not gonna be, like, crazy like that, but I'm gonna get him the drink. And so it's like that weird energy where you're like, oh, tj, just be chill. Just hug him like everyone else.

[Ben]

And then he's like, I want a spicy mark, please. And tj, I already got it here. And he's like, oh, what? Wait, that's okay. Just take it. Just take it. It.

[Ronnie]

Ticket. I timed this out perfectly. Ticket.

[Ben]

And Michael says, like, literally, my brain just shitted into my ear canal, so don't know what to do about this. It's like a bag of mixed signals. It's just, like, so selfish. Point blank, period.

[Ronnie]

TJ is like, all right, well, enjoy your margarita. I'm not gonna talk to you the rest of the day, mate. So then Bradley, and then Bradley's like, hey, what's going on, Michaels? Did you see Preston? And there's, like, a guy named Preston who's, like, over in the corner. And Michael's like, yeah, he looks hot. I want to bite. I didn't know you brought me cake, though. Vanilla. Hello. Oh, my God, I'm freaking out. There's vanilla cake. Vanilla cake. I said I was gonna have vanilla cake today, but now there's vanilla cake. I am shitting myself.

[Ben]

So now everybody starts jumping into the pool wackily. And this guy that he likes jumps in backwards and somehow makes it right through a donut. You know, like a donut blow up thing. So then everyone's like, that guy's amazing. He's almost as amazing. Is at. Michael is. Is at managing a restaurant. So then Joe is watching Maddie talk to tj. So Maddie's over there. She's like, you know, there was that weird time when I was, like, friends with you first, and then you and Joe got really close. Do you remember? Cuz, like, you know, you guys should get close again. And Joe, Bradley's like, I don't like the smell of this. I don't like the look of this. Marty got in the pool. Let's make a chant. Everybody say, maddie got in the pool. Maddie, get in the pool. Maddie, get in the pool. You can remember it because it rhyme.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And the chant does not catch on. And then Bradley and Lake are, like, talking and being flirty, which is. Which is nice. And Bradley starts saying how Lake started working at Republic Republic a few months ago. He's like. And it didn't take me long to notice her. I'm like, what? It took about half a second. I think you have a boner for any lady that walks through that front door.

[Ben]

Yeah. Hey, why aren't we going to get an update on what surface from last year? She's not here. Here. The mom.

[Ronnie]

Lucia.

[Ben]

Lucia? Yeah. Where's she at? She's not back.

[Ronnie]

Probably not. She has a kid.

[Ben]

Love is like, she was so lucky I let her work when she had a child. Yeah, I said it. So Bradley's like, yeah, Lake's new and she's hot, so I'm into her. So then Maddie, meanwhile, is talking to Emmy, and she's like, are you getting in the pool? And Emmy, he's like, do you want some salad first? She's like, I want octopus first. So then TJ comes over, and they're like, tj, you got to talk to Joe. I feel like you guys owe each other a conversation. He's like, I'm not. I'm really trying to have respect for myself. Like, do you think you can just. Shit. And I'm not going to retaliate to show everyone who the fuck you really are.

[Ronnie]

Wait, but you talk shit first, then he talks shit. Because. No, babe, I gave him the opportunity to tell the truth. When he cheated on Danielle, when he fudged Luann, that's what I. Fudgeing. Did. Did. So that's another thing. Okay. I feel like I need you to. I feel like I need to tell you that, like, once a cheater, always a cheater. He cheated on Danielle, he cheated on Natalie. He cheated on all his past relationships. And I wouldn't be a friend if I didn't tell you. I don't know how Joe's relationship characteristics are different from Trevor's.

[Ben]

Okay? But you're also kind of being a little naggy tattletale right now, and that's not cool. You. You betrayed your friend for Danielle of all people. Who. Who, like, even knows About Danielle or cares about Danielle. You can't betray your best friend of, like, years for Danielle. That makes no sense. So you're.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, you started this.

[Ben]

Yeah, you started. So Maddie's like, well, you're wrong, though, because I know who Joe is. You know, I've been friends with him for years. And like, sure, I think she tells us. She goes, yeah, it's like, not news to me. Joe's a cheater, duh. But he's not going to cheat on me. I already know his red flags. So, like, again, TJ is not necessarily wrong on this one, but yeah, TJ.

[Ronnie]

Is wrong about his. In the feud. He's not wrong about Joe going to cheating on you.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So Joe's like, I don't trust tj, and I just know that he's in her ear whispering negative. Like, Joe's over there. I can read it all over his mouth. I just know he's going to get between our relationship once again.

[Ben]

So then Joe Bradley comes over and he's like, tj, we gotta talk. We're going to have this conversation like a dog. So just say yes, you're gonna have a conversation with your ex best friend. And they're like, gentle, Joe, gentle. And he's like, oh, he's not even willing to look me in the eyes right now. Look me in my eye right now. Look me in my tongue.

[Ronnie]

I mean, I don't know if you deserve that. You disgraced Danielle Oliveira from Summer House.

[Ben]

So then everyone's kind of watching them now, and Joe Bradley's like, oh, so you're not gonna talk with me? And he's like, you didn't take accountability for what you did. Dude, there's something I want to talk to you about. Wal. What? What are you saying? Worldwide, it's one on one, tj, Stop pretending like you don't understand. Bradley speak. I mean, Joe speak. Joe Bradley speak.

[Ronnie]

So confusing here. Oh, my God. Hey, Michaels, can you help us decipher?

[Ben]

No, sorry.

[Ronnie]

Busy.

[Ben]

Busy mentally wiping the shit off of my mental shit.

[Ronnie]

So Joe is like, why do you think I sent you those messages, tj? And then we see the text that say, like, the same thing about, like, you're dead to me and stuff. And Bradley is like, what did he do to tj? Joe needed to apologize. What he did to tj. Those text messages. Joe needed to apologize months ago. And like, as Lake says, some people just don't take accountability for their actions. It's like, exactly.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, you're standing with the guy who won't admit to the blowjob by the dumpster either.

[Ronnie]

So, yeah.

[Ben]

So then we go back to Joe and TJ and Joe's like, we gotta talk right now. And he's like, I just not ready.

[Ronnie]

I'm not ready. I'm not ready to have hard truths about the. Well, I'm done. That's it. So Joe, he. He storms off and he's like. He wouldn't even look at me. This friendship ever be repaired, guys?

[Ben]

How can we ever be the same again?

[Ronnie]

I'm not sure, but I love this episode. Thank you. You, thank you, Southern hospitality for just continuing to be the workhorse that you are. You're doing great, great work down there.

[Ben]

It was pretty fun times, I have to say. Everybody, we love you. We will talk to you next time. Grab this video over on Patreon. We'll be here every Monday with this show. Go get tickets for the golden crappies, which are February 1st in New York City, as well as San Francisco, San Diego, Salt Lake City and Denver, which are coming up in like two weeks. You gotta go. You gotta to come. Please, please. We'll see everybody there. Love you guys. Talk to you later. Bye.

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