#2686 Southern Hospitality S03E02 Part Two: Post Traumatic Dress Misorder

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens #2686 Southern Hospitality S03E02 Part Two: Post Traumatic Dress Misorder

Introduction

In Episode #2686 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the intricacies of Bravo's reality series Southern Hospitality, specifically focusing on Season 3, Episode 2, titled "Post Traumatic Dress Misorder." This two-part recap offers listeners a blend of humor, sharp wit, and insightful commentary as Ben and Ronnie navigate through the dramatic twists and turns of Charleston’s elite social scene.

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Episode Recap and Key Plot Points

The episode revolves around the tumultuous relationships and business dealings at Republic Events, a high-end event planning company in Charleston. Central to this episode is the tension between Michaels, a 22-year-old gay man of color, and TJ, his older boyfriend, amidst allegations of misconduct involving store credit misuse.

1. Michaels' Personal Struggles:

   • Coming Out Story: Michaels shares his experience of coming out during his first semester of college, highlighting the contrasting reactions from his parents. His father was accepting, but his mother was dismissive, often using derogatory terms like "gay" to belittle him.

     "I came out during the first semester of college, and my dad was accepting, but my mom was like, oh, hell no. She would use the term gay against me, speaking down to me." ([00:37])

   • Emotional Maturity and Friendship: Michaels discusses the emotional disconnect with his mother, leading him to value his friends as his family. This bond is tested when he feels dismissed by TJ, mirroring the feelings his mother once caused him.

     "Losing the connection with my mom made me realize that my friends are my family." ([02:11])

2. TJ's Challenges:

   • Generational and Cultural Differences: TJ, a 33-year-old, grapples with dating a younger man like Michaels. He feels that Michaels is perceived as exotic in Charleston, leading to superficial relationships where he's often objectified rather than seen as a potential long-term partner.

     "It's really hard to be a person of color and gay here in Charleston because most people here are white, and they only look at me as exotic." ([03:45])

   • Communication Breakdowns: The hosts highlight TJ’s inability to express his feelings effectively, leading to misunderstandings and emotional strain in his relationship with Michaels.

     "TJ's telling us that he doesn't know how to express his feelings... he's just so emotionally together and can say exactly what he's feeling." ([07:30])

3. The Dress Misorder Controversy:

   • Allegations Against Emmy: A significant plot point involves Emmy, a staff member accused of misusing store credit to purchase dresses from Gwynn's. Molly and Siobhan, fellow employees, suspect Emmy of profiting illicitly by exchanging store credit for cash, thereby undermining the company’s financial integrity.

     "Emmy used $10 of store credit and now wants... took our $10 and pocketed it. It's called compensation." ([21:22])

   • Emmy's Reaction and Breakdown: Faced with accusations, Emmy becomes emotionally unstable, leading to a public outburst that disrupts the workplace harmony. Her distress highlights underlying issues of trust and communication within Republic Events.

     "Completely messed up and feeling crushed by these unfounded allegations." ([30:05])

4. Workplace Dynamics and Relationships:

   • Will's Discontent: Will, a lawyer unhappy with his role at Republic Events, expresses disdain for his job and the expectations placed upon him by his father. His casual demeanor contrasts sharply with the high-stress environment, further fueling tensions.

     "I feel like Will hates being a lawyer. He just wants to be back at Republic living the good life." ([23:09])

   • Molly and Siobhan's Friendship: The episode also explores the camaraderie between Molly and Siobhan as they navigate workplace gossip and support each other amidst the chaos.

     "Molly's like, I think Emmy deserves better. You know what? Emmy deserves an Emmy because she performs." ([25:48])

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Hosts' Insights and Analysis

Ben and Ronnie provide a candid and humorous take on the events, often interjecting personal anecdotes and relatable humor to underscore the absurdity of certain situations.

1. On Michaels' Emotional Depth:

   • Ronnie expresses empathy towards Michaels, commending his emotional maturity at a young age.

     "I think it's so amazing for somebody that young to have such emotional maturity." ([02:51])

   • Ben adds a humorous twist, questioning societal expectations of masculinity and emotional expression.

     "I'm worried that I look a little too straight. Have you seen the way straight guys look?" ([01:04])

2. On the Age Gap Between Michaels and TJ:

   • Both hosts critique the significant age difference, emphasizing the potential challenges in bridging such a gap.

     "With 21 and 33, it's a huge difference. It's actually too big of a gap, if you ask me." ([05:38])

   • Ben further elaborates on the maturity levels, suggesting that a 22-year-old might not be fully prepared for a relationship with someone significantly older.

     "I think that there's specifically someone at that age. You're still not fully baked." ([05:59])

3. On Emmy's Alleged Misconduct:

   • The hosts dissect the accusations against Emmy, offering logical explanations to defend her character while acknowledging the suspicions.

     "If Emmy used her store credit and then charged them, that's just a simple compensation." ([16:21])

   • Ronnie aligns with the audience’s skepticism but ultimately sides with Emmy, questioning the validity of the allegations.

     "I actually agree with you that even if that happened, I'm team Emmy because she didn't steal their money." ([16:28])

4. Humorous Takes on Workplace Slang and Terminology:

   • The conversation takes a light-hearted detour into the origins of phrases like "ham-handed," blending educational snippets with playful banter.

     "The term ham fisted originated sometime in the 1800s when having large, clumsy hands was compared to the look of large hands." ([18:05])

   • Ben and Ronnie riff on puns related to workplace terminology, showcasing their trademark humor.

     "Could you be loved? That was for you, Bob. We jam it. La la la la la la la." ([13:26])

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ben on Emotional Expression:

  "I think the bigger insult is that you look so straight, because have you seen the way straight guys look?" ([01:04])

• Ronnie on Michaels' Maturity:

  "That he put that together. I was like, oh, my God." ([02:51])

• Ben on Age Gaps in Relationships:

  "I just think that there's specifically someone at that age. You're still not fully baked." ([05:59])

• Ronnie Defending Emmy:

  "I'm team Emmy because she didn't steal their money." ([16:28])

• Humorous Banter on Workplace Terms:

  "Do you think a lawyer's wife would do that?" ([32:34])

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Conclusions and Final Thoughts

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie adeptly balance humor with serious analysis, providing listeners with both entertainment and insightful critique of the show's events. Their discussions shed light on the complexities of workplace dynamics, the challenges of personal relationships, and the often-overlooked emotional labor behind reality TV glamour.

The hosts commend the authenticity of the characters while not shying away from pointing out inconsistencies and questionable behaviors. Their support for Emmy amidst the allegations underscores a commitment to fairness and skepticism towards unverified claims. Additionally, their exploration of age and cultural differences in relationships adds depth to the conversation, highlighting the nuanced challenges faced by individuals like Michaels and TJ.

Final Quote from Ronnie:

"But all of that said, love these girls. Great work. A little ham handed. It's a little ham handed, but great." ([17:56])

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Closing Remarks

Watch What Crappens continues to deliver engaging and insightful content for Bravo enthusiasts and reality TV aficionados. By dissecting episodes with a keen eye and a sharp tongue, Ben and Ronnie offer listeners a compelling reason to tune in regularly. As they sign off, they tease upcoming content and encourage fans to support their platform through Patreon and other channels, ensuring the continuation of their candid and entertaining recaps.

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Transcript

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

So then Michaels is telling us. He's like. He tells us that he came out during the first semester of college and that his dad was accepting, but his mom was like, oh, hell no. And she would use the term gay against him, like, speaking down to him. And, like, she would say things like, you look so gay. Yeah, like, fuck off. You still look like you're about to be pushed down the stairs, old woman. All right, you want to keep that shit up. I know.

[Ben]

Why do people say that? Like, that's an insult? Like, I think the bigger insult is that you look so straight, because have you seen the way straight guys look?

[Ronnie]

Girl, the biggest compliment to me would be somebody to say, you look so gay. I would be like, thank you so much. I've been working out.

[Ben]

I know. Like, I'm. I'm worried that I look a little too straight. I'm wearing, like, a sweatshirt, you know, like the. You know, like, take a look around. Look around at your straight men and then see if that's actually a compliment.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And so this was such a sad thing. And he was telling this to Lake, and so she's like, oh, my God, I love you. And they cry. And he says that losing the connection with his mom made him realize that his friends are his family. And he felt a really amazing bond with TJ until he felt dismissed. And he said that TJ made him feel the way his mom felt, which.

[Ben]

You guys, that's a bit too much.

[Ronnie]

Salties. No, I was crying. I was like, that is so sad. I totally get that. And also, it. I think it's so amazing for somebody that young to have such emotional maturity. I was like, oh, my God.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

That he put that together.

[Ben]

Okay. It was a lovely scene. And I. I was. It was like, what he was sharing was, like, very emotional. But when he said that, like, when he puts. When he puts all of that onto tj, oh, TJ made me feel like the way my mom made me feel. I feel like it's a. That's, I think, a little unfair. Although, to be fair, TJ vacuum around and going, well, I see you just treaded some Dirt into my freshly vacuumed rug. Thanks a lot, Michael. That is very motherly. So I can understand from that angle, but I think it's a little much, too. I think it's. I think it's fair to say, tj, you were just weirding me out, and I had liked you, and then you were playing weird games, and I didn't like it. I don't know. I just think it's so much to put, like, his trauma with his mother.

[Ronnie]

Onto T. Well, I understand that. I just think that he's saying because of the trauma, because of being dismissed by his mother, that's one of his triggers. So when he feels dismissed by somebody else, it brings him back to that place.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

I mean.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

That's how I took it.

[Ben]

I like that framing a little bit.

[Ronnie]

But I was like, but, you know, I'm a big sucker for this stuff because I am a gay who can't talk about his emotions. Like, all this stuff that I'm saying about TJ is totally me projecting, obviously. So I. I get it. Like, I really resonate with the stuff that TJ's talking about and stuff like that. And when you're confronted with somebody who's just so emotionally together and can say exactly what they're feeling and exactly why they're feeling it, and they've done all this thinking through, I'm like, please stop talking, because I'm only 50. I don't have time to talk about this. I'm still a child. Like, I'm going to need another 30 years before I'm expected to be emotionally mature, sir.

[Ben]

Well, then Michaels also brings in another very interesting dimension to all this. And he says that dating has been really hard because he's like, I'm not your stereotypical white guy, which is all, you've dated tj. And I'm just going to always feel like I'm never going to be good enough. And TJ's like, that's a little upsetting, to be honest. But Michael's basically is like, you know, it's really hard to be a person of color and gay here in Charleston because most people here are white, and they only look at me as exotic. And so he says that essentially people just want to hook up with him, but they don't want to take him home to mom. And that, like, that's. That seems like a very real frustration. And that I can also see why he was particularly triggered by tj, because if TJ is like, I just want to kiss him, and then I'm going To run away. That probably adds on to the frustration that Michaels has probably felt in that, hey, I like someone. And once again, like, I'm just like an experiment for them or an experience as opposed to, like a future.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And so TJ says, well, I mean, if you look at all the guys I've dated, I mean, none of them look alike. There's also a lot of closeted bisexual people. So that's why I'm fucked up in the head. And I was like, oh, my God. And also that, like, every line they say, I'm like, oh, my God. I can't believe someone's saying this stuff out loud.

[Ben]

Oh, Ronnie. So then TJ says, growing up in the south and then generation I grew up in, there was like, not that many people that were out. So having an openly gay man show interest me is different, especially because he's like, super, super hot, and I don't know what to do with that. And I'm 33 and I. I want to settle down. I mean, sure, having a vacuum is nice, but you can't really have conversations with the vacuum. That's actually a lie. I have many conversations in my vacuum.

[Ronnie]

So he's like, yeah, I'm 33 and I want to settle down, and I don't want to be anybody's secret. And I think that's another element. Is 33 and 21 is a pretty huge gap.

[Ben]

It's a big difference. It's actually too big of a gap, if you ask me.

[Ronnie]

I think. I mean, I think with 21 and 33, it's huge. I dated a guy that was 28 when I was 23, and I swear I wanted to start buying him iron at the store. I was like, poor old person. I mean, I don't have that much longer left with him. It's the way that you look at things when you're young.

[Ben]

But also like Michael's, he really does seem like a very emotionally mature 21 year old. But the truth is that we've all. We've actually met many in our lives very mature 21 year olds. But 21 year olds are still 21 year olds. Actually, Michael's is 22 now, but they're still 22. And there is, like a difference between someone who's 22 and someone who's 33, which is why I'm always shocked when you have like an Al Pacino or anyone who, who's dating someone who's 22 or 23. Not that there, there can't be an age gap, but I just think that there's specifically someone at that age. You're still not fully baked. And so I. I just. I. I don't know how people do that. I don't know how people get. Get into those relationships. Because, like, what do you.

[Ronnie]

When you find out? Tell me. I'd love to test it. So then back to the salon. Tj, he's basically telling Michaels that he doesn't know how to express his feelings. And he. They just have this big moment where they're just so honest and open about kind of their deepest, darkest shit. And then he's like, well, wow, I actually get you now. You know, thank you for sharing that, because I got a lot of clarity. And then TJ's like, okay, so, well, we can just remain the same. He goes, so what does that mean? He's, like, platonic. And he's like, great. Okay, well, I just wasted that. Opening up to somebody that'll. That'll happen again in another 30 years. Thanks a lot.

[Ben]

I think, honestly, TJ, now that you've told me that, I think we should go on a date, really, to Mining Adventure, where we learn about stats and how we can find out about data in different things. Damn it. Should have let him finish the sentence.

[Ronnie]

So now we get another song. Try not to go too far, but don't get too close to me. I was like, wow. They actually found a way to get a vacuum into the instrumentation instrumental. No one was trying to say instrumentation of this song.

[Ben]

So Maddie enters a music studio, AKA someone's bedroom, on the third floor of their house, their mom's house. And Maddie's like, this place is do. Saw that. And she meets Devin, and he was just some engineers and producers or whatever.

[Ronnie]

And Maddie, I'm like, the owner, producer, who just sits in. He sits on the couch in his socks, and he's like, all he says to things are dope, dope.

[Ben]

Yeah. These are two gentlemen who have learned how to use GarageBand. And so Maddie has a new track called Popping it, and she has this monologue, and I'm like, I don't know when it's too soon to make certain jokes. I'm just gonna head on the side of not making jokes yet, but I really want to make a bunch of jokes. But Maddie is saying, meeting DJ James Kennedy last year, it's like, change the game. He's been, like, such a great mentor.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Part of music is having timing, and hers is really bad.

[Ben]

Yeah. Yeah. It's not great. Like, oh, my God. Like, DJ James Kennedy. He is Kind of like the way I look at him is kind of like one of the best people of all time.

[Ronnie]

It's like, yeah, especially being like, I want everybody to, like, download this song and think of me and James Kennedy together, you know? James Kennedy, the king of poppin.

[Ben]

I want my brand irreversibly meshed with James Kennedy.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, no popping it. No, no, no popping it, especially. Yeah, you're right. Your joke.

[Ben]

No, there were some other jokes I was gonna make about some DJ puns that just. I don't think it would. I. I'm gonna. I just. I. I think I'm just gonna hold off.

[Ronnie]

But, man, we'll come back in five years, you know? I'll be like, hey, Ben, do you remember that Southern hospitality recap? You're really holding back on James Kennedy.

[Ben]

Because people will be like, that's. That's so. You can't joke about that, Ben.

[Ronnie]

But Maddie confessional. Maddie's, like, meeting DJ James Kennedy last year. Oh, my God. Game changed. I want to be in the studio making my own music, and I want to give it 110%. And Grace Lilly comes in. She's like, hi, everybody. It's me, Grace Lilly, popping in Wavy Gravy, talking to Jesus on the way here. He said, fishing loves.

[Ben]

And Maddie basically is, like, saying that she gave this boat, this vocal spot to Grace Lilly because she loves Grace Lilly's voice. But also, Grace Lilly hasn really had. Hasn't been doing much. Doesn't really have any direction since she left Republic. And then we see a flashback to her in her bedroom, and she's just received, like, one of those neon signs that you can customize. It says wavy, baby. She's like, oh, okay. Gonna hang it up here. That looks great. Well, another day of work done. Okay, time to clock out.

[Ronnie]

So, Grace, like, here's the thing. I'm, like, a serious singer, so I'm gonna need a little work on this. Y'all, like, new to me. It's like new art, so we're just gonna need to work on it. Okay. She's, like, in her little yoga pants and everything. One of the guys is just, like, dope. And so he goes, I want you up on this mic. She's like, okay, you want me up on it, motherfuckers?

[Ben]

Hold on. I need the lyrics. Can I have the lyrics? Because there's only four lines, but she needs the lyrics. And so now here's her singing. She's like, I'll just keep on popping it. Like, there's no stopping it. La La. La la la la la. That was great. That was great. One take. Can't believe. I love that.

[Ronnie]

She needs the words. And she has, like five notes and she goes, la la la la la la la la la la. They're like, oh. And Maddie's like, you know, so she may not be hitting the notes, but at least she's not wearing sandals like a man. So.

[Ben]

You know, it's just too much. Like, I love the lyrics. I love the meaning, you know, of la la la la la. I love what that means. It's just like. It's a lot. It's like. I think it's like too much lyrics, Maddie. And she's like, there's four lines. It's too much.

[Ronnie]

And two of them are, la la la la la. It's hard too much. It's hard too much. You're basically like the Sondheim of our times. So then she's like, yeah, my artist is practice in my shower, in my car. I'm not just gonna half ass it. You should have seen me try to hula hoop and hit these notes in the shower. It got ugly.

[Ben]

Y'all cuts are going, dropping it, dropping it, dropping it. La la la la la la la la la. Like, not even singing.

[Ronnie]

So then Maddie's giving her a note. She's like, give it that energy. Like, I don't give a fuck. You know, I'm just gonna keep popping it because I'm like, grace, Lily. Like, I literally know. Jes, like, got it, got it. Yeah, Jesus, you guys helped. You got popping it. Popping it, Jesus. La la la la la. Okay, just cut out the Jesus parts, and I think we nailed it.

[Ben]

La la la la la. Could you be loved? That was for you, Bob. Could you be loved? We jam it. La la la la la la la.

[Ronnie]

You guys really helped our vision come to life. Like, we couldn't have done it without you guys. Okay, dope. So then we go to Brad putting on his shirt on the way into work, you know, as it is. And then Maddie on the street trying to get people in. She's like, popcorn, peanuts, cracker Jacks, fruitcakes. Just kidding, everybody. Oh, hey, happy Father's Day.

[Ben]

And then she's like, Maddie sets up her DJ table outside in the garden. And Joey is like, hey, there, room back here to dance. She's like, yeah, there's a fan back here. It feels nice to finally have a fan. Liter. So then inside, TJ and Michaels are both behind the bar, and TJ is like, what's up, dude? That was My platonic way of saying hi. He's like, y'all ready to pop off for Daddy Day Club? Meow. Are you?

[Ronnie]

So then in the kitchen, they're just making small talk about the signs and stuff like that. And then at the bar, this is where we just see them working all over the restaurant and stuff. And Austin is now making drinks and talking to a VIP server, Siobhan.

[Ben]

And he's like, so where are you from? She's like, jersey. He's like, oh, you have any roommates? Like Molly? She just moved in. And so then Brad's checking with Molly and asking how last night was. And she's like, do you want to know the tea? He's like, yeah, I want to know. Emmy was going around telling a whole table of NFL players that she was single. Brad's like, shut up. For real? Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Messy ass Molly. So then back to Molly alone. Now Siobhan comes up. She's like, hey, roomy for tv. She's like, oh, my God. Hey, roomy. Rooming for tv. Yeah. Last night was like, I mean, wow, what a night. So basically this is Siobhan talking. She's like, basically, Emmy starts bragging that she gets a lot of store credit at one of the stores every month. And I just, like, laughed it off. But then I thought about it and I was like, wait a minute. We started buying dresses for the. For work from that same store recently. So does that mean that she's buying those with store credit and pocketing the money that we send her?

[Ben]

So now I did a lot of thinking about this. Okay, it sounds if this is true, if Emmy was running a nefarious money laundering ring through Gwyn's and the store credit, I. If you really think about it, there's nothing wrong. She was given store credit, which has a certain value. Let's say it's a value of $10. And she says, Can I have 10? And then she takes $10 from the girls, and then she uses her $10 of store credit to get the. To get the dresses. Emmy still has a value of $10 in her account. It's just in form of money instead of credit. There's literally nothing wrong with that.

[Ronnie]

I actually agree with you. Yeah, I actually agree with you that even if that happened, I'm team Emmy because she didn't steal their money.

[Ben]

I mean, it's like she used her own store credit. So, like, she got compensated from the girls. Now, be one thing if her store credit came with like a 10% discount and she got. She charged the Girls fully. But if she's like. I was like, oh, my God. Emmy used $10 of restore credit and now wants. Now took our $10 and pocketed it. It's like. Yeah, it's called compensation.

[Ronnie]

Right. Or if it could be a problem, if it was something like, we could get. We could get dresses at this store for $10. But then the store Emmy's hooked up with is $20, so she made us all spend $20. So they could have had some kind of bargain, something like that. But.

[Ben]

Or if they donated the dresses and she took the money because they donated. But like, if she literally used her store credit and then she took the cash from the girls, well, what do she got? You just want her to use her store credit on you guys for free?

[Ronnie]

No. Yeah, yeah. And especially because it's obvious these two girls are coming in like, oh, my God, it's finally episode three where they're letting us do something. So let's come fucking take on Emmy. You know, I mean, that's clearly what they're doing because they're roommates and they're teaming up and it goes one scene, the NFL thing, and the next scene, the dress thing. But all of that said, love these girls. Great work. A little ham handed. It's a little ham handed, but great. Yeah, I just love them. I mean, next year we have to remember to nominate them for best cast vest. Newbie.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

What?

[Ben]

Where did that expression come from? Ham handed? Like, this is a little obvious. This is as obvious as you having a ham on your hand.

[Ronnie]

Hey, have you ever seen my hands? Everybody look at my hands right now. And crap. It's on demand also. Yeah, look, I'm ham fisted. Ham handed.

[Ben]

I was the same thing.

[Ronnie]

I'm watching this western on Netflix called American Primeval. Primeval. And I'm realizing how many sayings came from country times. Like, like, I'm leaving them in the dust. That means like the horse dust coming up from the. The horses. Or I mean, there's just so many that I was like, wow. So much of our current culture is based on, like, old cowboy culture, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah. So I think it literally can't the. According to our old friend Google, the term ham fisted originated sometime in the 1800s when having large, clumsy hands was compared to the look of large hands.

[Ronnie]

See, sometimes it's very simple. It's just a hat.

[Ben]

It grew in popular. I mean, who did that? Like, nice ham hams. Who was the one who started that? It just like caught on.

[Ronnie]

But I've been called ham hands. My whole life. So I understand where that I knew where that one came from. It's time for a Commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial.

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[Ben]

So Molly is like, so she's getting these dresses for free and then charging you guys to pay her and then profiting off you guys. Well, if Emmy were getting the dresses for free, that would be bad. But they're also saying that she's using her store credit to get the dresses, right? So Siobhan is like, like Siobhan. I don't think they're thinking this deeply about it. It Just sounds conspiratorial. And so Siobhan's like, I'm pretty confident that's what's happening here.

[Ronnie]

So Molly's like, well, if you buy something at a discount and then charge someone full price, rude. Okay, but is that what's happening? Because now you're adding the discount thing. That wasn't what was told to you, Ms. Twisty. And she goes, rude, first of all. And second of all, you shouldn't be profiting off your colleagues. I was like, really? Because literally, you guys go into work when you're not working and they profit off of you every time you tip them. So.

[Ben]

Yeah. Oh. So Molly's like, that was good. Molly's like, I really hope that's not true because that's really sketchy. So now we cut to Emmy, who has, like, a stanchion. I mean, this lady is cracked out right now. The fact she's walking through the bar with a stanchion on her shoulder. She's like, we needed a stanchion. This one's broken. I broke the stage. I tried to sell to wins. They wouldn't take it.

[Ronnie]

She's like, we need a new stanchion right fucking now. God damn it.

[Ben]

It's on my wad. My wad today is we're gonna do 30 military presses with the stanchion. And this one's broken. I can't do it.

[Ronnie]

So then we get a split screen of everybody working, working, working, working. And then Will comes into the bar with his, like, lips. He's just like, hey. And high fives Molly. And he's like, sorry to disturb you, Molly. She goes, how we feeling? He's like, good. No Stella today. More like a high noon, maybe. I'm getting flirting vibes from Will with Molly, and I don't like it.

[Ben]

I. I'm getting bored vibes from Will. I feel like Will hates being a lawyer. I feel like he hates the expectation that's been put on him by his father. And he just wants to be back at Republic living the good life. So Emmy is like, sees. Sees Will across the bar. And it's like she just sort of, like, gives a smile, but she's like, stanchion. She's twirling her stanchion. She's like, come on. She's like, doing double sticks with the stanchion.

[Ronnie]

She's doing a one arm push up off of a stanchion. So Siobhan is like, emmy, wanna chat? And she's like, yeah, yeah. Especially if we can do it inside stanchion. Free. So they go in, and Brad's like, yeah, Will and I are close, but I think he's done some things wrong. And then we see a flashback to Maddie and Brad gossiping in the back room. And she's like, oh, my God, he's come in here multiple times drunk, and has talked shit about Emmy to strangers. Brad's like, yeah, I've had clients come up to me and go, will was in the bar last night saying not good things about his girlfriend.

[Ben]

Yeah, it just puts me in a weird position as a friend. So then Brad and Will are talking. Brad's like, are you a daddy today? He's like, like sugar daddy in training. So now Siobhan and Emmy sit down, and Siobhan is like, so we've always been good, I feel like. And, but regarding the dresses, when you said that we were, you were getting store credit at Gwynn's. Do you profit off us when you send, when we send you the money? And I mean, it's like.

[Ronnie]

I thought.

[Ben]

We were gonna be talking about stanchions because you know what? I stand gins. Oh my God, we're talking about this. I, I, I. And she starts doing this thing with her. Start doing like a little like a Terminator thing with her hands, you know, she's like.

[Ronnie]

I would never do that. I would literally never do that. And she's like, I volunteered to help Michaels purchase all the VIP service dresses with my credit card, like a normal person. And then they came in and guess what? All the girls love that. Thank you. Thank you.

[Ben]

They put on these dresses at home. Not when they walk through the door. That's how much they like them. And I mean, like, the girls really think that I would buy the dresses with a credit that I'm gifted and then charge them for it? And Siobhan's like, well, that's what they were thinking. I mean, if I think like, someone's me over, then I have a problem.

[Ronnie]

That'S like, so shitty. That is like.

[Ben]

Why are you breathing into the stanchion? So Molly's watching and she's like, I think Emmy was premeditatedly named Emmy because with that performance, she could win an Abby. Because an Emmy is something that you win when you perform on television. It's an Emmy, a Daytime Emmy, or maybe it's a creative Arts Emmy, I'm not sure.

[Ronnie]

But there are my dad.

[Ben]

So my dad won a Tony because guess what his name is Tony.

[Ronnie]

So then Siobhan's like, yeah, whoa. The reason why this occurred. And she's one of those girls that like, slowly pets her hair like it's a cat that's just like on her shoulder. She's like, the reason this occurred is because we never bought from there before. So I was like, oh, I'm sorry, are we just too fancy for a Target now?

[Ben]

Like, but this is like such a fucking character call out, like, though to think that I would take money from you guys and like, charge you guys for it. Like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like. And Siobhan's like, okay, that's good to hear because I don't want to think that about you. I mean, he's like, so I don't.

[Ronnie]

Need to order dresses? Michael's asked me to order dresses. Do I even need to order them? No, I did it as a fucking favorite.

[Ben]

So Michaels walks up, he's like, what's up? Why are you crying? Did CJ give you a coffee for no reason? No. They think that I would use my store credit to buy the dresses, charge them for the dresses and just steal from them. Even though if you really think about it, if I use my store credit and then charge them, that's just a simple compensation. But either way, to be accused of that, like, what the. Michaels.

[Ronnie]

Well, it's nothing to get emotional about. Excuse me. You were about to have a nervous breakdown over a free coffee last week.

[Ben]

Yes. You. You were crying at your birthday. So Will comes in, he's like, oh, gross, my girlfriend's crying. And Emmy's like, michaels, respectfully, I don't want to have to have any of those responsibilities then anymore. Do not put me on dress duty, okay? I will go to Dress Barn solely for myself going forward.

[Ronnie]

So Will comes in, he's like, what's wrong, baby? They thought I was using my monthly credit to buy the new draft is. And then I was charting them and he goes, and you weren't doing that.

[Ben]

And, and then. And by the way, Michaels also says, yeah, getting reimbursed and then pocketing the money. The reimbursement. You, of course you pocket the reimbursement because you just got reimbursed. So then Michaels is like, there's no way that Will just said that. Emmy's like, will, no, I'm not gonna use the store credit.

[Ronnie]

I'm.

[Ben]

I'm. I am gon only use the store credit on myself. He's like, no, I was, I was just checking that I had all the facts.

[Ronnie]

Hahaha. I'm a lawyer now.

[Ben]

So this is a funny.

[Ronnie]

Will what an. This guy is such a. Oh, my God. And everyone's in agreement. The whole cast is like, wow, that guy, you know, isn't funny. Well, he's like, okay, sorry. This isn't funny. Please stop wiping your eyes with a stanchion. You know, the one good thing you have right now are your looks. Please don't poke your eyes out.

[Ben]

It's just. It's a fucking stab at my character. Do you get it? Do you get it? And now Siobhan's like, I'm bored. So, like, she's like, how long do.

[Ronnie]

We have to shoot this?

[Ben]

I have to go return my dress that quins. So Will's like, no, it's the first I've heard any of this, so I don't know what's going on at all, but just let me know how it goes. He just, like, leaves.

[Ronnie]

He leaves. He leaves. And she's like, oh, my God, I should not have come in today. Okay, go back to work. And Siobhan goes, so we're good.

[Ben]

She's like, fucking Christ, you're fucking kidding me. So she puts on sunglasses and storms off.

[Ronnie]

And Siobhan's just like, okay. So then we just hear Emmy go, God fucking damn it.

[Ben]

So now she goes to the back room and starts to hyperventilate, and she's like. And Michaels comes back and is like, come here. Come here, Michael. I literally. I did everything I could to help these girls. I do. He's like, I know, I know.

[Ronnie]

And if they think I can steal, like, what? That's what I get for being a good person. I was like, oh, my God. Yes.

[Ben]

The.

[Ronnie]

The Making of Shannon Beador Part two.

[Ben]

Man, I know. This is wonderful. They broke Emmy. And so they're all.

[Ronnie]

They broke Emmy.

[Ben]

Her voice is echoing through the club, and everyone's just, like, staring, like, oh, my God, there's a lot. And then they show a crow flying away. So then Will doesn't care. He's just drinking his beer. And Emmy's like, are you kidding me? Michael's is like, emmy should, like, not be having this kind of reaction to something that's, like, not even true. Like, we're at work. Like, you need to keep it together. And by the way, you're wearing all white. Why are you crying? You don't want to buy new dresses anymore, so let's not ruin the one you already have.

[Ronnie]

But it's like. It's like I put them before me. They're like my children. You know what? Like, I was having trouble breathing, so I put a stanchion on. One of the girls faces us first.

[Ben]

I don't think that's how stanchions work. Whatever. So Will's like, outside, Will's like, emmy's upset. Like, I don't want to go back there because I don't work here anymore. And Joe's like, yeah, do you want me to check on her? He's like, yeah, you go back there. So he's like, will's good at consoling people. I mean, Joe.

[Ronnie]

So Will's like, yeah, sen Joe. He's good at consoling people. So then Brad's like, wow, you've been together for three years. Maybe check on your girlfriend.

[Ben]

So Joe finds Emmy, and he's like, also, people are being mean to you. The girls. Excuse me, I'm stealing from them. Where's that Clora Leachman girl? I bet she started all these rumors. Joe's like, no, you would never steal. Never.

[Ronnie]

It's like, yeah, I would never. I would never do that. So they're accusing me of using my store credit and, like, purchasing the dresses and then pocketing the money. And Brad comes in. He goes, well, is that all they expressed? I mean, is that why you're upset? It's like, yeah. And he goes, well, I heard that Friday night Emmy was talking to NFL players saying that she's single and they were passing that on, too.

[Ben]

She's like, hey, I'm just a messenger here.

[Ronnie]

Do you think a lawyer's wife would do that?

[Ben]

Okay. If an NFL player, NBA, first of all. And he asked me, did your boyfriend play football or basketball? And I said, my ex boyfriend played football. What have I done to these girls?

[Ronnie]

So then Brad's like, I don't know. And Joe tells us, like, if you didn't do this, like, why the fuck is this such a big deal, Leo, like, acting this manic over something this small. Something is not right. Which I kind of agree. She's, like, too much. But I don't know if it's Adderall. I don't know. You know, it's the cocaine. I don't know what's going on, but something else is at play here.

[Ben]

Well, I think that she's also, like, definitely getting bad emotional support from what? Like, clearly, like, Will. Yeah, things are. Things are bad there. And she is now putting all her energy into, I think, like, working out and, like, maintaining, like. Like this. Like, everything's fine. Everything's. Everything's fine. So the moment that, like, illusion breaks, like, everything is not fine. Like, she's just like. It's the damn breaks. So Brad's like. He takes her. He grabs her shoulders, and he's like, stop, please. It's gonna be fine. It's just a misunderstanding. It's gonna be fine. No more tears. He's, like, shaking her, like, it's gonna, like. So she goes out and she just starts screaming outside. She's like, so now I'm single. What the did I miss? Michael's like, okay, I didn't even know about that. Like, seriously, where are you getting this from? Are you, like, suddenly like, girl, TJ right now, all single. She's like, yes, Brad. Brad, Fred. I am this close. I am this close. I'm gonna lose it. I'm like, wait, so this does not count as having lost it yet.

[Ronnie]

Girl, you lost. That train is. That train has passed, okay? The train is out of the station. And Brad's like, you gotta chill. She goes, I have no chill. You know what? I never told a man that I was single. Like, who's the background on my phone? Who's the background on my phone? Rgb. No, sorry. I was on the wrong background today.

[Ben]

I was. Sorry.

[Ronnie]

I had a moment of girl power, this one.

[Ben]

Well, what you're literally showing me right now is your flashlight screen. So, like, until you can show me your wallpaper, I don't think I can really look at your phone anymore because I'm getting blinded. Will.

[Ronnie]

Will's on the head of my phone.

[Ben]

So, like, okay, okay. And TJ's like, okay, well, you're being a shitty boyfriend. Your girlfriend is inside crying right now, and you're just like, nah, I'm gonna let them figure it out. Complete fucking asshole.

[Ronnie]

So then Emmy is, like, putting on her sunglasses. She's like, I can't. It's just like a fucking slap in the face.

[Ben]

It's a slap in the face.

[Ronnie]

So then outside, Will's just sitting. No, Will's in there looking at her, but then he just starts texting on his phone and ignoring her. She's like, well, I guess I want to clock out then.

[Ben]

Yeah, you should do that. Please go home. So she leaves, and Austin's like, well, this has been an interesting first week at work. Ha ha ha. And Siobhan's like, welcome. So you would think this is the end of the episode, but actually, we now are go bouncing around Charleston, and we're seeing things, and we see people getting ready, waking up, and guys were half naked. Etc. And there's Brad is texting with Lake, and he's like, I Missed you at Republic. And she goes text back, ah, what are you doing right now? Eating in bed. You're in bed? What are you wearing? She's like, lol. Shut up.

[Ronnie]

So then Molly's slow motion enters a restaurant to the tune of We're Living, We're Here, Here's a toast to the good night. Let's have coffee with Molly and Siobhan.

[Ben]

Siobhan comes out of nowhere. Never seen it before. And now she gets to have the final scene of the episode. Wow.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

She's like. So Siobhan's like, well, Molly, I was gonna paint the door tonight. Like, seriously, I had the paint, so I was gonna do that and then watch Housewives, which is so meta right now if you think about it. But then you called and I was like, this sounds better. So guess I'm not painting the door. Great story, Siobhan.

[Ronnie]

I can see why you're getting the last scene. I can see somebody sitting right next to Andy soon. And so we see that Molly was moving. And Molly's like, yeah, I decided to move in with Siobhan because guess what? I told my dad I'm getting a new roommate. And then we see flashback clips of Brad and Austin helping with the move. And she goes, yeah, thanks for being my go to date and for not standing me up. Have you ever been stood up? And Siobhan's like, yeah, one time I was leaving my house, and then I was like, are you coming? And then he was like, I just sat down to watch the. Like, I don't even know the movie, but, like, let's say it was the Avengers. And I was like, okay, well, why don't you pause it and go to cocktail club, because I'm literally right here. So what about you?

[Ben]

I don't think that's. I don't think that's being stood up on. I think stood up, that's just being canceled on. That's like, different. Like, Somali is like, either way, unacceptable. Molly's like, yeah, I've had bad dates that I actually. That was on, like. But most of my dates that went poorly are just, like, hilarious. Like, it's almost impossible to embarrass me because I think everything's funny. Like, this one guy was like, sorry, I can't make it because I've got to, like, stay in and paint my door. Like, what sort of loser wants to paint their door? Am I right? Oh, sorry, Siobhan.

[Ronnie]

She goes, embarrassing. Do you mean, like, Sunday? She goes, oh, my God, Speaking of Sunday. And then we go Flashback. I'm gonna lose it. And her mascara just running down her face. Her Erica mascara.

[Ben]

Just like, Siobhan is like, Molly. And Molly's like, it's not funny. It's not funny. Oh, my God, it's so funny. But so Siobhan's like, something is, like, deeply going on with her, though. Like, I don't know if it's, like, work stress or, like, maybe it's her relationship with Will. Care to comment on it?

[Ronnie]

Well, I'm not a fan of Will, and I don't like the way he talks about people. He's annoying. And Siobhan's like, yeah, well, I'm sorry, but that relationship is a ticking time bomb. He was basically watching Avengers while.

[Ben]

Super.

[Ronnie]

She was sobbing in a corner, like. And he's been saying the most disgusting things I've ever heard a man say about a girl, let alone his girlfriend. Like, she's boring. She's anorexic. She's no fun. Her last full meal was fingernails. I mean, just terrible. And then Maddie walks over and was like, is he talking about Emmy? Oh, my God, what a fruitcake. He was just hammered.

[Ben]

I'm, like, disgusted. And have you seen the colors of their doors, too? Am I right? Siobhan's like, yeah, he was hammered. I don' Care if my boyfriend was on heroin. Molly tells us a man should never be talking about a woman's body ever. Especially in front of multiple people you work with. Even someone I hated, I would never talk about, much less someone you claim you love. That's crazy.

[Ronnie]

But does she know? Siobhan's like, I don't even know if she knows. But, like, I feel like she's not gonna, like, be receptive, but I heard it with my own ears. So, like, I talk about it with Maddie later. And Maddie was told by Michael, say anything. And so me and Maddie were, like, not getting involved because, like, it came from management.

[Ben]

And Molly says, I think Emmy deserves better. You know what? Emmy deserves an Emmy because she performs. I don't know if you heard me say it earlier. I just want. It was really good. I just didn't want to get wasted. So anyway, that's coming from someone who doesn't really care for the Emmy ceremonies. Okay. And I still think she deserves better.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Like, if your boyfriend's going to your place of work and saying terrible things about you, I mean, I'd be.

[Ben]

He'd be on Dateline, and I'd be watching the episode from prison, and Siobhan's like, really? He Got a hosting gig? No. I would have murdered him. Is that why you're in prison? Yes. Siobhan. Oh, my God. I brought you into the final scene of the episode. Why are you being like this?

[Ronnie]

What a show.

[Ben]

Truly. Wow.

[Ronnie]

What a great show. Great new casting too. I love that. They've just kind of expanded the universe, you know. Good job. Job. Good job, people.

[Ben]

Brilliant work. Brilliant work. Well, everyone, that was a fun episode and that's that. We are gonna go talk some traders talk and we'll be back later this week. We got some blow deck sailing yacht, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Buy your tickets for the crappies or come see us on the road elsewhere across the [e-mail] and we will catch you on the next episode. Bye, everyone.

[Ronnie]

Bye.

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