#2691 RHONY S15E014 Part Two: You Bugme Berkeley

Summary

Watch What Crappens Episode #2691 Summary: RHONY S15E014 Part Two – "You Bugme Berkeley"

In the second part of their recap of "Real Housewives of New York City" Season 15, Episode 14 titled "You Bugme Berkeley," hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve deep into the tumultuous interactions among the cast members. This episode primarily highlights escalating tensions, confrontations, and the intricate dynamics that define the relationships within the group.

Escalating Conflicts and Confrontations

The episode centers around the volatile relationship between UBA (Uber) and Aaron. The hosts discuss a particularly heated exchange where Bryn attempts to instigate drama by engaging in inappropriate sexting tactics aimed at provoking Aaron’s husband. Ronnie notes, “[04:18] Host 1: ...she's always trying to, like, do things that are gonna fuck with people,” emphasizing Bryn's manipulative behavior intended to stir conflict.

UBA’s frustration reaches a boiling point when Aaron inadvertently exposes a private conversation by placing her on speakerphone, leading to public embarrassment. Ben remarks, “[06:22] Host 3: ...there's just something that is where she is so deeply entertained by this, but it's just not. It’s so one note,” criticizing the repetitive nature of the drama and UBA’s inability to move past it.

Group Dynamics and Divisions

As tensions rise, the hosts highlight the fracturing of the group into competing factions. Bryn sides with Aaron against UBA, further alienating UBA from the rest of the cast. Ronnie observes, “[12:37] Host 1: ...she's mad mad. And then they get irrationally mad at her getting mad,” pointing out the cyclical nature of anger and retaliation that hampers meaningful resolution.

The synchronized swimming segment serves as a focal point for these tensions. While intended as a fun group activity, it devolves into chaos as UBA becomes increasingly confrontational. Ben notes, “[16:17] Host 3: ...get this bullshit out of the show,” expressing frustration over the orchestrated drama that detracts from genuine interactions.

Hosts’ Analysis and Critique

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie offer sharp critiques of the cast members’ behaviors. They particularly target Bryn for her incessant provocations and UBA for her inability to handle conflicts maturely. Ben states, “[34:28] Host 1: ...this kind of person is just unbearable. They just relentless,” underscoring his disdain for the persistent negativity UBA brings to the group.

Ronnie suggests that the show suffers from an imbalance in character dynamics, stating, “[42:04] Host 3: One thing I really don’t like...,” and elaborates on how certain cast members fail to contribute positively, resulting in a chaotic and unengaging narrative.

Potential for Improvement

The hosts discuss the possibility of restructuring the show to focus on more dynamic and entertaining personalities. Ben suggests, “[44:52] Host 1: ...maybe we need more fun. Just come on,” advocating for a shift towards characters who can inject genuine humor and vitality into the series.

Ronnie echoes this sentiment, proposing a more inclusive and varied cast that could revive the show's appeal. “[46:34] Host 1: ...Bravo get funny. Crazy,” he urges, hoping for a transformation that aligns with the audience's desire for engaging and unpredictable content.

Final Thoughts and Recommendations

In wrapping up their discussion, Ben and Ronnie lament the repetitive and negative interactions that mar the show’s quality. They express a longing for more authentic and entertaining moments that go beyond petty squabbles. Ben concludes, “[47:16] Host 1: So everyone, thanks so much for being here...,” reinforcing their commitment to providing insightful and candid commentary on Bravo’s offerings.

Overall, Episode #2691 of "Watch What Crappens" offers a comprehensive and critical analysis of RHONY S15E014, highlighting the intense drama and interpersonal conflicts that continue to define the series. Ben and Ronnie’s thoughtful observations and candid critiques provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of the show's dynamics, while also suggesting avenues for improvement to enhance its entertainment value.

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Notable Quotes:

• Ben Mandelker ([04:27] Host 3): “She didn't get a reaction from Jessel and she got one from uba, so she's like, okay, games changed.”

• Ronnie Karam ([12:37] Host 1): “This whole show. Well, my God.”

• Ben Mandelker ([34:28] Host 1): “This kind of person is just unbearable. They just relentless.”

• Ronnie Karam ([42:04] Host 3): “One thing I really don't like calling for certain housewives to be fired...”

• Ben Mandelker ([46:46] Host 1): “Bravo get funny. Crazy. Not just boring dish rags like Aaron.”

These insightful reflections and candid remarks by the hosts encapsulate the essence of the episode, providing both critical analysis and engaging commentary for listeners.

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[Host 1]

So now they're kind of joking around and stuff and like, you're being a diva. Yeah. So back outside, Bryn's like, you know.

[Bryn]

Jessel's my shotgirl, right?

[Host 1]

She's like, oh, God, now I'm your shot girl. You were just coming after me this whole trip, but now I'm suddenly your shotgirl, so. But Brynn, you know, Brynn will like you if you drink with her. So they do.

[Host 3]

Right? And else. And also Brynn has bigger fish to fry right now. So she's good with Jessel again. She tried to start something up with Jessel. She accidentally got uba and now she's in it with uba, so she doesn't. Has. Has no need to. To feud with the J at the moment.

[Host 1]

Yeah, that was. But she didn't get a reaction from Jessel and she got one from uba, so she's like, okay, games changed. I'm going through the big boss right now.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Hey, Cy and Raquel, did you have a good conversation? And like, yeah, we did. I'm so happy you talked. I'm sure you are. So now they are gathering again. And now size. Sai is getting a text. Oh, God, here comes the next. The next flare up is about to come. Sai gets a text from her husband. And then this. Then of course, Bryn is like, do.

[Aaron]

You even, like, ever like sex?

[Host 1]

No.

[Bryn]

He sucks at sexting, which I think is funny.

[Host 1]

I suck at sexting too. I can't even do it. I'm like, what are you wearing, like, cereal? Because I just spilled some down my shirt. What are you doing?

[Aaron]

Okay, question. Here's sex, because let's Start, like, sexting someone's partner.

[Host 3]

Okay, see, this is the slumber party, right?

[Aaron]

Like, oh, my God, let's talk about sexting.

[Host 3]

And again, it's not coming from a place of us being prudes. It's just like, it's not an interesting thing to watch someone who is like, like pushing 40 still being like, oh, my God.

[Aaron]

Sex thing.

[Host 1]

I don't even mind some of that stuff because I just think it's part of Housewives. It's like, oh, my God, we're wacky. Let's talk about our favorite position with our guys. Like, and I get it. And we're not, you know, we're guys, so of course we're not, like, into the girl talk and stuff. What bothers me, Bryn, is a. Because it's Brin. So everything's bothering me right now. She's got me cranked. But also, it's just. It can kind of get people in trouble. I feel like she's always trying to, like, do things that are gonna fuck with people. Like, let's secretly start texting and try and get your husband to send us a dick pic on camera that we can show. Or let's one of us start sending your husband nudes and see if we can get him to me over sex to make it look like he's cheating on you. You know, it's just sinister. It's always something mean and it's always something sinister. It's not fun.

[Host 3]

You know what it is? There's a way to talk about sex thing that's, like, fun and interesting and is, like, revealing. And you learn about these people that we're watching. Because usually it comes up as an organic conversation, but the, like, who hears sex, like, doing like a round table, like, hey, let's have this moment that's going to be so. It's gonna be so salacious. It's gonna go viral. It's gonna be hilarious. And there's just something that is where she is so deeply entertained by this, but it's. It's just not. It's so one note. It's the same thing over and over again. And we never learn anything about Bryn. She sometimes lets us in, but instead we just have to sit through this again. So here we go. So she's joking about, you know, sexting and everything. And Rebecca's like, oh, yeah, we can, like, text dudes from here. Can we text dudes from your phone?

[Aaron]

And Bryn's like, fuck, yeah.

[Host 3]

She's like, okay, okay, If I got onto your phone, you know what I'm going to sex. I'm gonna say, who wants to get coconut water? It's my favorite line.

[Bryn]

My blood cup just fell out.

[Host 1]

What do you call that thing?

[Host 3]

It was my K cup. No, is it my K cup?

[Host 1]

My K cup. My cur.

[Host 3]

I think that's my cup. My K cup. Well, that's.

[Host 1]

That not Darinda. That's Deandra with the K cup. The K cup coming out. So there fell out. So they're joking. And Rebecca's like, should we go on like, Ryan Tinder? And Raquel's like, you want to send some dude on her phone nudes? What the. And Rebecca's like, yeah, I mean, I think a if a dude got a nude of these on their phone, he'd be like, bye, I'm out. I'm traumatized and I'm going home.

[Bryn]

So Brent's like, oh, she seems pretty comfortable with this. How much of that rumor was false? Becky.

[Host 3]

What are you trying. What are you trying to do? So Rebecca's like, oh, yeah, he's on here with like, he's. Oh, he's with like four kids. The babysitter right now. So anyway, so Aaron's basically like, I'll do it. I'm gonna be hilarious. Let's like trick Abe into like sex thing. Like sex talk with me on the phone.

[Host 1]

Yeah. So they get the phone and then Jessel comes up and like stiletto heels. Like, where the are you going? What are you wearing those shoes for? She' it's part of the look. I thought it was synchronized swimming. Like you swim in the water. She's like, yeah, but it's part of the walking up to the water look.

[Host 2]

It's the synchronized swimming pre show look.

[Host 3]

You always have to have that. I understand why it's so hard to understand.

[Host 1]

So Aaron calls Abe on speakerphone and he's like, what's up? It's like, hey, Abe, it's. Oh.

[Bryn]

Bren's like, hey, Abe, it's Bryn. It's just the three of us. We're hanging out in the bath together. What are you thinking about right now?

[Host 1]

Like, I'm not responding to that one.

[Host 3]

He's like, I'm honestly just looking at the bitcoin market at the moment. Abe, how dare you.

[Bryn]

I'm saying, come on. Soaping up my boobies. A what are you thinking?

[Host 1]

He's like, you're not going to get me in trouble.

[Bryn]

She's like, what if I'm just trying to get you in trouble?

[Host 1]

A He's like, wouldn't be the first time, she's like, look, I'm sitting here.

[Bryn]

Snuggling on air, and she smells so good. Take your dick out. Take it out.

[Host 1]

And then Uber's like, gross, ab, you're on speakerphone.

[Aaron]

Shut the up, Uber.

[Host 3]

Because Uber just. Uber just, like, leaves. And Uber's like, no, that's not. That's not great, Abe, you're on speakerphone and everyone is listening to you.

[Host 2]

What the.

[Host 3]

You guys. So, honestly, I mean, I think what they're doing. I. I would never do that. I actually. I have a conspiracy theory because Bryn gets so, so mad that UBA did this, because Uber basically was like, you're on speakerphone. Like, you should know this ape, and then walks away. And I think most people in that situation would be like, oh, uba, you just ruined it. Okay, whatever, Aba. But Bryn is, like, so mad that I actually think that Brynn, Aaron, and Abe, like, like, plan to have a scene that was gonna be hilarious, and it was gonna be at the moment, and uba, like, ruined their plan.

[Host 1]

Yeah, but I mean, look, I think that UBA just got pissed because she hates those girls anyway, and she's like, you. So she ruined it. But, yeah, I think she has a point, I think. Trying to get your partner to, like, pull out his dick, like, get him turned on. And then what would have happened if Abe was like, okay, I'm horny. I've got a heart on right now. Then you just ruin that guy's reputation. You've already been dragging him through the mud about the bitcoin for you, and all this is happening, and now you showed your. Now you pulled out your dick on the phone with the brand. It's not cool. Like, I don't know how anybody thinks that is cool to do that to your husband.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Is that just because I don't like Aaron or what?

[Host 3]

No, I mean, I. I would. I agree. But I also feel like, look, Aaron. This is Aaron's. It's Aaron's husband. It's her business. They're gonna. They'll figure it out. Ultimately, it is, like, their choice. Like, whatever. UBA just said the quiet part out loud. I think, like, I'm just like, this feels like you're gonna like this.

[Host 2]

You.

[Host 3]

You could be embarrassing this person. Like, you know, but either way, regardless, it's not something I would have done. And Uber just said it. And uba, you know that uba's like, whatever. And they just got. I thought they got irrationally mad for Uba's response.

[Host 1]

Honestly, I think they're all irrationally mad. I think Uba's irrationally mad at the situation. I mean, I don't think it was cool, but I wouldn't. She's like. She's mad. She's mad mad. And then they get irrationally mad at her getting mad. I mean, it's just such a. This whole show. Well, my God.

[Host 3]

But at the same, it's one of these things where, like, I think in a normal situation, you just. You just sort of keep it on the inside and you talk about it later with your friend being like, I thought that was kind of fucked up. But, you know, it's a TV show, and I can't clock UBA for saying something when we complain that all season long, it's like, the show is boring or inauthentic. And Uba's just like, fine, I will say something. Because I'm on a TV show where I'm supposed to say something. Although I actually wonder if it's also because UBA was just already just so annoyed at these women, and she just thinks they're so immature and so stupid that she just has to say something.

[Host 1]

So the producer's like, so how would you be? How down for you. How down would you be for a threesome, Abe? And Abe's like, oh, no, no, no. That violates my rules of swinging, which are you can't know the other couple or the other person that you're hooking up with, because then it gets awkward after I go see all are swinging.

[Host 3]

Love it. So Eren's gonna be like. I mean, I was just gonna, like, make him be like, oh, yeah.

[Host 2]

Oh.

[Host 3]

And it's just gonna second. Uma's like, have some respect. Some of us are praying for husbands every single day.

[Host 1]

You're wasting your husband. You're wasting a husband, Chance.

[Host 3]

Uber is. Yeah. I mean, the truth is, Uber is also like, Uber should just move on with her life, too. She set her part and now she should just move on.

[Host 1]

So Brent's like, oh, my God.

[Bryn]

Uber, where fun goes to die. I mean, it's kind of inherent that Abe knows that he's on a speakerphone because we're both talking to him. I mean, it's harmless.

[Host 1]

It's funny.

[Bryn]

Like, everyone. No one's consenting.

[Host 1]

It's not consent if you're tricking somebody, is it? I'm sorry, have I. Have I just been on a different planet the past decade? I don't think that is consent, actually. You weirdo.

[Bryn]

And she's like, and I thought you had a boyfriend, like, why are you such a nun?

[Host 3]

And you literally dress like a nun at the reunion. Brin, come on now. You're the one who got so mad about someone saying you slide. I guess that's more severe saying that you slept with someone to get on this show.

[Host 1]

So then Bryn, basically, Aaron's like, well, God love you, Abe. I guess she ruined that fun. And so they get off. So Justo goes in to check on uba and then UBA is still like, oh, my God. What? Aaron's a child. I'm like, oh, my God. Calm down, uba. She's like, it's all a joke and fun, but when it comes to husbands, they should be off limits. Only pigeon. You know who we make fun of? Pigeon and dirty water.

[Host 3]

Yeah. So Eren's like, that was like, really fucking weird.

[Aaron]

Yeah, she's fucking weird.

[Host 3]

And Jenna's like, I don't know why UBA is so upset about it. I mean, she's making assumptions that Eren isn't caring for her husband in this moment. And it's not cool. I mean, if anyone has a grievance, it should be Abe. UBA doesn't need to worry about it. It doesn't. Doesn't matter. And she's right. UBA should have just said it like, you guys are being fucking weird. Abe, you're on speakerphone, and then you just go in the other room and you just go on with your life because there's a lot more going for uba. The. I think so.

[Host 1]

Aaron's like, that crossed a line. I didn't like that cross the line.

[Host 3]

That she said, you're on speakerphone. So just was like, do you think he. That he's that stupid that he would go that far with her? She's like, well, I don't know. I just don't want to be part of it.

[Host 1]

So basically, she brings her back out. She's like, come on, let's get snacks and go back out. So they go back out and they decide to have a wacky fun, synchronized swimming. And UBA sits in a chair that's far away from everybody. And they're like, why don't you come sit with the group? She's like, no, I'm fine here.

[Host 3]

They're not actually synchronized swimming yet, by the way. Just about.

[Host 1]

They keep talking about going to, but they're not going to. So she's like, no, I can hear everybody. And Brent's like, we're here to have a fun.

[Bryn]

You better take a joke. Don't be sleeping at the dinner. Table. Don't be yelling at people. It's called fun. Have fun. Try it.

[Host 3]

I don't know. As far as I can tell, Bryn has been one of them. Like, uba. UBA has been moody, but Brynn's been fucking moody also on this trip. So then Uba's glass falls over, and it's like, funny. And then UBA goes, I need to stage myself because she. The glass fell over onto her. And Raquel's like, okay, let's get in the pool.

[Host 2]

Okay, we're going the pool.

[Host 3]

Ready to go in the pool. And now at long last, they all line up by the pool to do their synchronized swimming.

[Host 1]

But then they start. But first, they never get into it. I mean, seriously.

[Bryn]

So Brand's like, I mean, when was the last time she talked to Abe?

[Host 1]

And he was like, I didn't like that at all. I'm gonna say something about it.

[Bryn]

She goes, yeah, you're his wife. Like, that's whack. I'm over it. She still hasn't apologized for saying I suck dick for work.

[Host 1]

She didn't say that. She didn't say it. And Aaron's like, yeah, it's actually whack. Shit, I'm gonna have words with her. Oh, my God, you two are so ridiculous. You just get yourself worked up overnight. Okay? So that. But they do it in a calm way, so everybody's fine with them doing it, you know? That's what makes me crazy about it. Their way of stirring shit is just to whisper each other like the eels from the Little Mermaid and go after everybody in this, like, silent, gross way. But then someone just says, you. And they're like, oh, my God, someone.

[Host 3]

Yes, you.

[Bryn]

Oh, call the police.

[Aaron]

So Bryn's like, but you don't actually confront people, Aaron.

[Host 3]

And Aaron's like, I confront people all the time. Like, the time when I said that I was not part of the conversation, so I didn't have to be deal with confrontation.

[Aaron]

So Bryn is like, yeah, okay, but like, not her. Like, I'm the only one who confronts uba. Like, no one else says to her.

[Host 3]

So Bryn tells us that UBA is a Ferrari. So she went from being a thermometer and now she's a Ferrari. Which is pretty cool. Upgrade. She's like.

[Aaron]

I mean, she goes from like 0 to 130. And, like, everyone doesn't want to set her off because she's mad at anyone who disagrees with her, who challenges her, who questions her, who says anything that she doesn't like.

[Host 3]

And then we do Get a pretty substantial montage of Uber going off on people in, you know, going off on people when they don't expect it.

[Host 1]

Well, it's when they're with her, though. I mean, one is a direction where she's like, don't confuse me being angry and assertive. Don't say I'm. Don't say I'm an angry black woman. I'm being assertive. And then another is where she's saying, you know, maybe you don't know how to be loved or how to stand up for yourself, but I do. And brain's like, what's your mouth like? Who's. Who's angry now? I mean, these clips.

[Host 3]

I'm like, no, but I guess I'm more just thinking about Jessel being like, uber. Here's a glass that's for basic. You Uber.

[Host 1]

I don't want to water glass. Basic, bitch. So then Aaron's like, well, I don't feel like dealing with Uber. Honestly, I'm just not in the mood.

[Uba]

Really?

[Host 1]

Because one second ago, you're like, we're gonna have words. We're gonna have words. So she's like, you know, it's gonna be a whole thing. Like, why did you say that? You shouldn't say it like this. Clarify, clarify. Like, you have no idea.

[Host 3]

If Aaron did not always leave out significant portions of the truth or twist the truth, I guarantee she wouldn't have half these issues with people. She's always like, well, I don't talk about it because then it's gonna be a whole discussion. But it's almost always a whole discussion.

[Host 1]

Because more truths come out because, yeah, you liar. So she's so just like, you know, Uba's gonna say what she's gonna say and then whatever, who cares? Let's fast forward. Okay, so now we go. Now do we do it? No, we. They're putting on their swimming camps. And now Brent's talking about dicks again. For Sake man.

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Y'All, it's your girl Keke Palmer. And let me tell you, we're kicking off this new year with a whole new mindset. You know how everyone's all about New Year, new me. Well on baby, this is Keke Palmer. We're taking it to a whole other level. We're talking new Year, new perspectives, and honey, it's gonna change your life. I sat down with Astrology Queen Chani Nicholas. Y'all, if you wanna understand yourself better this year, this episode is it. And then there's my chat with the incredible Da Vinci where nothing was off the table. If you're looking to level up your mindset this year, his words are definitely gonna hit different if you're ready for that New Year new mindset energy you've gotta tune in to Baby, this is Keke Palmer. Catch it on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. And for the full experience, head to my YouTube channel. If you're looking for more podcasts to help you tend to your well being, check out New Year New Mindset on the Wondery App. Let's make this year our best one yet, baby. Hey y'all, it's your girl Keke Palmer. And let me tell you, we're kicking off this new year with a whole new mindset. You know how everyone's all about New Year, new me, well on, baby. This is Keke Palmer. We're taking it to a whole other level. We're talking New Year, new perspectives, and, honey, it's gonna change your life. I sat down with astrology queen Chani Nicholas. Y'all, if you want to understand yourself better this year, this episode is it. And then there's my chat with the incredible Da Vinci where nothing was off the table. If you're looking to to level up your mindset this year, his words are definitely going to hit different. If you're ready for that new year new mindset energy, you've got to tune in to baby, this is Keke Palmer. Catch it on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. And for the full experience, head to my YouTube channel. If you're looking for more podcasts to help you tend to your well being, check out New Year, New Mindset on the Wondery App. Let's make this year our best. Best one yet, baby.

[Host 3]

So then UBA is talking. Oh, yeah, we're seeing just. I'm sorry, I'm still in the flashbacks of UBA getting mad at people. So now. Yeah, they're putting on the swimming caps.

[Aaron]

Is this how fetuses feel like when we put condoms out of her penises?

[Host 1]

Like, not fetuses. Who's putting a condom on a fetus?

[Host 3]

The penis. I said penis. Did it sound like fetus?

[Host 1]

But you said fetus. I mean, I miss read things all the time, but I was like, whoa, whoa, that one. We got it correct.

[Host 3]

Yeah, this is, you know, what an episode. So now they're a step outside. Umba's like, okay, we are team A. And Jenna's like, no, no, no, no, no. We're all just one team. And she's like, no, we are team A and they're team B. Jenna's like.

[Host 1]

No, we're going to come together. That's how we do it. So then Jenna, as if she's never said this before, is like, wow, I think that I fell in love with synchronized swimming when I was, like, in sixth grade. Honestly, if there was, like, a gay synchronized swimming team, I'd totally do it. Synchronized swimming is the gayest I've ever seen in my life do it.

[Host 3]

They're a straight synchronized swimming team, so it's inherently gay. So Jenna's, like, teaching everyone how to do synchronized swimming. And she calls Rebecca Rachel.

[Aaron]

And Rebecca's like, I'm not Rachel.

[Host 3]

And then it turns out that she keeps calling Rebecca Rachel over and over. Again.

[Host 1]

So then now they all talk about how they love synchronized swimming, and then they synchronize swimming. They do synchronized swimming. And let me tell you, they do synchronized swimming for a very long time. It just goes on, and it goes on.

[Host 3]

Well, we. We already know. We know it's going to be Go on for a long time because it gets like its own little title card. And you're like, oh, shit. They're applying graphics to it. This means it's going to go on for five minutes. And some executive at Bravo is laughing because they think they made such a funny, like, segment for America. And we're all just like, no, stop it. Stop it. Get this. Get this bullshit out of the show.

[Host 1]

So now they're kind of done. And Ubin's. UBA is asking Aaron if she's okay. And Aaron's like, well, I didn't like what you did back there. She says, I don't give a fuck. Don't do it in front of me. And she goes, I'm talking to you quietly. And she's like, no, no, no, no, no. Every minute you find something to be mad at. What the fuck, Aaron? Which is kind of true. It's like, you guys just got over this and had a fun synchronized swimming scene. Can you just reset? Or you start trying to restart the same.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah. So Aaron's like, okay, you know what? I'm out. I'm out. She's. What is wrong with her? What a sensitive. And so UBA splashes Aaron, which is, you know, on this show that got like a big. That's because it's like you splashed her. Right? But it is more of a. More of a hostile gesture on Roni. So Uba's like, she ruins everything. Okay? Everything. And then splashes her some more. So everyone's like, she yells at me and splashes me and tells me to go myself. I'm not allowed to express what I feel with her, but yet she's allowed to call me a gaslighter just because I don't speak the full truth and tell everyone it is the truth and this and that and the other thing. It's just like, not okay.

[Host 1]

So Raquel's like, now, what happened? And she's like, I didn't like what you did with Abe. Don't put your husband on speaker when I'm there. And he doesn't know, tell me to leave. I'll leave. Leave. And Aaron's like, I've learned it's just better to walk away when she's upset like this. After I've pissed her off, basically. I've learned that with uba, once you've really done your best to piss her off and you win, it's better to just walk away and let herself destroy.

[Aaron]

Uba's like a deep fryer. She's like one moment like cold oil, but then after you heat her up, it's like hot oil. And you can put like french fries in it and they'd be crispy. That's like totally Uber.

[Bryn]

Then you're like, why'd you put a tornado in a Ferrari inside of an air fryer? Stupid.

[Aaron]

How many blow jobs can an air fryer give?

[Host 1]

So now they go to the hot tub, which is worrisome because a lot of things have happened in the hot tub. Last season on Real Housewives of New York, and I was like, why are you guys repeating yourselves? This is the whole problem with the show. You don't learn your lesson. So there they go in the hot tub. So then Jenna and Raquel are just like these people. Can we just go to bed? But they can't.

[Host 3]

I know.

[Host 1]

And of course, Bryn gets in the hot tub and has to have a brin line where she's like, oh, my.

[Bryn]

God, this feels like a yeast infection. It's like, we're going down into the east.

[Host 3]

The truth is, I can imagine really many other Bravo liberties saying that line. And it would have been like, fine, maybe even funny. But from Bryn, I'm like, ugh.

[Host 1]

It's just non stop, you know?

[Host 3]

Yeah. So Uber's swimming UBIs. Yes, I agree. So UBA's swimming and Jessel's like, thank you, Jenna. That was quite the experience because I deeply appreciate it. And you all looked great in your hats. Oh, my God. Did I say the hats part out loud? Oh, my God, this is embarrassing. I thought that was gonna be like an inside thing and I said it out loud.

[Host 2]

Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

Oh, I first fell in love with synchronized swimming. I've just never forgotten. Did I already tell this story?

[Bryn]

You guys tricked me again.

[Host 3]

So then UBA goes and puts her feet into the hot tub, and Prince.

[Aaron]

Like, thank you, Uber, for trying to have fun. I appreciate people that try and have fun.

[Host 1]

Oh, I'm more fun than you could ever, ever experience.

[Bryn]

She says, I know. When you yelled about Abe, I was like, she's no fun. So.

[Host 1]

Oh, my God, can you just let the woman come back? Like she's trying. Just let her come back. Why do you start it again? You are relentless. You and Aaron are relentless. They're tag teaming you know, and this is why people are like, I just don't understand why UBA's so mad. This is why. Like, she can't take one breath, man. So she's like, I did not yell, which is not true. And Aaron's like, yeah, I felt. It felt bad. It felt like I was doing something wrong to my husband, who I love very, very much, except when I go on TV and basically call him a betrayer and a traitor and don't really explain it to anybody and just leave them to hang out to drive for a while, you know, you're setting him.

[Host 3]

Up for humiliation on camera. So. So Uber's like, were you though now again? UBA is a little bit too invested in this thing, but whatever. So Aaron is like, you know, to make it seem like I'm doing something to harm my husband is gross to me. Uber does not give me the benefit of the doubt. Oba is constantly assuming I'm at my worst, and that's what's really starting to piss me off about her.

[Host 1]

So then it was like, you should think I'm a good friend. Did I do that? And she's like, no. Like, it felt like I didn't have a good enough relationship with my husband. And she's like, I don't want to be a part of it. And she's like, then don't comment on the. Comment on people's marriage. Oh, no.

[Bryn]

Bryn says that it's like, don't comment on people's marriage.

[Host 1]

And she's like, oh, Bryn, we're not speaking to you. Go take a nap.

[Bryn]

She goes, oh, should I suck a dick while I take a nap?

[Host 1]

She goes, well, that might help you. Shut up.

[Aaron]

No, but that's what you said yesterday. You said, I suck dick for work.

[Host 3]

And she's like, no, I said, if maybe you did that to get this job. Because I didn't. Because I'm enough. Uber is enough. I don't have to be fake of anything.

[Aaron]

And she's like, he's being fake.

[Host 3]

You are. She's like, how am I being fake?

[Aaron]

I would love to know. Please.

[Host 1]

I loved this. UBA got up and came around the hot tub and then sat right across from her. And everyone was acting like, oh, my.

[Bryn]

God, what is she doing?

[Host 1]

But she just gets right in her face, you know, sitting. Sits. Sits right across from her. And it's like, you are not what you say you are. You are fun brain. You're sweet to everything, and nobody knows how they are with you.

[Bryn]

And she goes, okay, pigeon.

[Host 1]

And she Goes, I saw. Hi. I saw. Hi.

[Aaron]

You're a commercial airline. I fly private. It's fine.

[Host 1]

Girl, please, please.

[Host 3]

Who are you flying private with?

[Aaron]

Who?

[Host 3]

She goes, you're totally a Talbot model. So it's fine, darling.

[Bryn]

Google my name. She's like, oh, my God, what is this about your name all the time. You're like, my name? My name. You're not Naomi.

[Host 1]

Naomi wish. Giselle witch.

[Host 3]

By the way, being a Talbot's model, like, you should be so lucky.

[Host 2]

You should be so lucky.

[Host 3]

A working model. Congratulations. So Bryn's like, now I know Naomi and Giselle, don't.

[Aaron]

We see it.

[Host 3]

Just go fuck yourself, you piece of shit. Get the fuck out of here. And Uber just walks away.

[Host 1]

So you know Bryn, who just hates for anybody saying something negative about a career. How could you ever, ever say something negative about a working woman? Is like, oh, you're nothing. Your whole career is nothing.

[Uba]

Hypocrite. Hypocrite.

[Host 1]

As usual. So then, basically, it's a mess. This whole thing is a mess. And Raquel still has a headache from Jenna slapping her in the head with her arm during synchronized swimming. So they talk about that for a little, little while to give us all a break. And then a little later, Jenna's like, can we just go to bed? And Brent's like, oh, no.

[Bryn]

Oh, Aaron. Oh, look at Aaron. You ran away quite quickly. Thanks for helping me, Aaron.

[Host 1]

Oh, my God. Now you guys have run out of people, so you have to come for each other. Literally. Everybody else is too exhausted, so now you're gonna reignite with each other.

[Host 3]

I was like, I'm not gonna sit there and listen to her yell at you like that.

[Aaron]

She goes, I told you that if that ever happened again, I would stand up for you. And you, like, ran away.

[Host 3]

He's like, she's like, I walked away to diffuse.

[Aaron]

So that was part of your master plan?

[Host 3]

She's like, yes, I walked away.

[Host 1]

She walked away from her own fight, Bren. And then you got bored, so you started your own fight. It wasn't. She was. She didn't walk away from your fight. She walked away from her own fight, you weirdo. So she's like, well, I mean, you're.

[Bryn]

Scaring away, and I wouldn't do that with you. And now you do it to me, and I'm just, that's fine. It's fine that you did it. I'm just telling you how I fell, but it's fine. It's totally mine.

[Host 1]

So now she's telling us that UBA was pointing at Aaron. And so she, you know, she just, she repeats the same thing. That Aaron doesn't stick up for her the same way that she sticks up for Aaron. But you guys are both starting the fights with the person that you want the other person to stick up for you. Again, it's ganging up. If you're not both there tag teaming the same person. Now you're upset. If you want to start a fight with someone, then have the balls to stand there and fight with them. You wish.

[Host 3]

Yeah. So Bren is like, all I'm saying.

[Aaron]

Is that like, if anyone yells at you, just know that I will verbally make sure you're okay. And I'm just like letting you know that's what I'll do for you. I'm just letting you know what I'll do for you.

[Host 3]

And so Aaron's like, well, you didn't do that the last time. And then we see a flashback to times where Brandon did not stand up for Aaron, of course.

[Bryn]

But then I apologize profusely and then I. Then we made a goddamn pact. And so I'm glad the pact was one way, you know, because it doesn't work. Happens to me.

[Host 1]

God. Like just this kind of person is just unbearable. They just relentless. It's like constant. If there's not chaos that they're causing, then they're the victim of something. You know, they're crying until they get another chance to cause chaos. It's ridiculous. And so Aaron's like, I absolutely am. Oh my God. You two are on team. I'm not going to listen to you anymore. They both were uber at this point. I'm like, shut up, both of you.

[Host 3]

You. So Aaron, Aaron basically is like, you guys were both getting toxic so I just walked away. And she's like, if you felt like I should have done more, I'm sorry. Do you want me to go say something to her?

[Aaron]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So she's like, I will tell her all again. What you just pointed out was, was good because it's, it's a, it's another example of Aaron not saying the truth to someone's face. She's saying, if you wanted me to, I'm so sorry, I'll change. Instead of saying, you are getting really mean and toxic too. Br. I don't think that's cool. And I' going to stand up for that behavior. But she's too much of a wuss because she doesn't want Brent. She doesn't want to be on Bren's bad side. So now she's going to jump back on Bryn's side and go tell a fuba again, even though it's not really necessary and they should just leave this whole thing alone.

[Host 3]

So then Aaron basically tells us that she feels bad that Bryn feels unsupported, and she thinks that, like, UBA crossed across the line saying that, you know, Bryn is a and suck dick for money or whatever or for the job. And we all know how triggered Bryn gets about this topic. That's the sensitive area. Don't mention that Bryn sucked dick for to get ahead in life.

[Aaron]

So.

[Host 3]

So we're in Ubisoft.

[Host 1]

Do you even suck at Bravo to get on Housewives? Is there a hetero dick over there?

[Host 3]

I know. Yeah, that's a great point.

[Host 1]

Seriously.

[Host 3]

Maybe that's why she's mad.

[Aaron]

She's like, I didn't suck dick. I licked box. And no one's giving me credit for that. And it's lesbian season.

[Host 1]

So size like uber.

[Bryn]

What's going on? That's a husband, babe.

[Host 1]

And she's like, oh, so basically you're lying for the rest of these who are so desperate to hear. And she goes, what?

[Bryn]

Who cares?

[Host 1]

It's her husband. So then in the kitchen, Aaron's like, well, let's not ruin the night too late, bro.

[Host 3]

Yeah, let's not ruin this night of going synchronized swimming and then sitting around. So Bryn is like.

[Aaron]

Bryn's like, no, we just didn't synchronize swimming.

[Host 3]

So then meanwhile, we have this scene in the bathroom. I think Sai is in there maybe with Jessel. And Sai is like, you know, she.

[Aaron]

Can'T just sit there and talk anyway about me and what Br.

[Host 3]

And Bryn said she definitely was adding to it. And Jess was like, oh. She said she defended me. And she was like, it's too much. I told them to stop and s like, oh, lovely. Thanks. Great. Cassia's like, oh, great. Aaron is. Once again, she's in the mix with us. And then when that stuff, all that conversation gets outed, Aaron is quick to be like, oh, I wasn't even even saying anything. I was just. I was defending.

[Host 1]

Yeah. And so. And I like how this cast is kind of picking up now that they're learning, like, okay, they've got us distracted by pissing off uba. But wait a minute. We were mad at Aaron. They started all of this to make us forget that we were pissed off at Aaron, but we're still pissed off at Aaron. So Sai comes out and she's like, that's fucked up, Aaron, for you to tell Jessel. It was only me and Bryn that were talking shit about her. You were there. And so you know what? Erin does tell the truth. She just doesn't tell the whole story. So she's like, you were a little shit. She goes, why me? Why? Like, that whole conversation we set outside.

[Bryn]

You said it was just me and Jessel.

[Host 1]

That's. And Aaron's like, oh, my God. Somehow I have like three fights going on at one time. I just want one at a time, please.

[Host 3]

Like, well, what does that say about you, by the way? If you've managed to be in three fights in the house full of like six people, what does that say?

[Host 1]

Love that you started every single one of them. Congratulations, fafo baby.

[Aaron]

So S's like, okay, let me change my clothes and we can talk about.

[Host 3]

It as a group.

[Aaron]

We have a group conversation.

[Host 3]

And Aaron's like, I'm like, really? Over vacations with these girls? Like, they are piling on me again. That's like the classic Aaron thing to be like, all I was doing was defending people. Wow, this is what I get.

[Host 1]

So then she goes to Jessel's room and she's like, by the way, thanks for lying Jle, like, about what?

[Host 3]

She's like, well, that you went and told sai that. I said, oh, it's too much. I had nothing to do with any of it. She's like, but you did say that. She's like, no, I defended you. You know, I'm. I'm never doing that again. I'm never going to defend you again by talking about, how should you are. You are as a person. God, I'm never gonna defend. Like that.

[Host 1]

She's like, but you said that you defended me. She goes, yeah, and I did, and I'm never doing it again. She goes, but she said that you didn't defend me. I mean, come on, Aaron, I'm done with this. She goes, watch a fucking video then, and you'll realize you have no friends. Off.

[Aaron]

What?

[Host 1]

Seriously, off. This lady is so mean. So then Jenna's like, what? Set the whole thing off? And Raquel's like, I don't even know. She goes, God, can we just end the night? These two were like, these children are idiots. Like, what are we doing with these people? So now Aaron goes into Uba's room because she has not. She's just going starting fires in every room, right? It's like Aaron's big finale. So Uba's naked and she's like, can you leave? I'm naked. And she's like, but this isn't a thing. She says, I'm naked. I don't want to talk. She goes, but, like, come on, like, stop telling Brynn that she's a. And people suck her dick or whatever. And. Or she sucks people dick or whatever because it's really her hurting, hurting her feelings. Oh, you know what's better? When you go tell somebody, go watch the tape, because they have zero friends.

[Host 3]

Yeah. So then UBA is like, I never said that. And she goes, well, that's just what she said. Said. So basically, Aaron and UBA are like, yelling at each other. And Aaron's like, stop talking to her like she's trash. She's not trash. And it was like, go yourself. And Jenna's like, I mean, there's no way this is going to end well. Sort of like my tryout for the synchronized swimming team. Did I say that part out loud? Oh, my God.

[Host 1]

Well, this is why I'm Team UBA still. Like, I don't care if UBA lost it and I don't care if she was being rude and I don't care. These girls will not stop poking at her. They will not stop poking at everybody on this cast. And it's so refreshing that someone's like, no, you, your face, your stupid face in your head. I hate you. Go away and leave me alone.

[Host 3]

Yeah, it's like, it's so nice we're seeing you blatantly lie on camera. I'm actually really looking forward to this reunion because I'm really hoping that Andy and the production confronts Aaron with these lies. It's like, yeah, it's true.

[Host 1]

This Aaron's their, like, little golden girl that they try and build the whole thing around. They're not going to say to Aaron, they're going to make it. Uba's crazy. Something happens next week where it really goes crazy. I don't know if it gets physical. I don't know what ends up happening.

[Host 3]

They're like, yeah, well, feels nice to feel things right and wear that big.

[Host 1]

Old victim cloak into the reunion. And she actually hasn't earned deserved one. But she's going to get off scot free on everything because of what she's going through. And it's rinse and repeat.

[Host 3]

So that being said, good episode. I mean, there's stuff going on.

[Host 2]

It's much better than watching them walk around town.

[Host 3]

I mean, like, do they drive me absolutely nuts? Yes. But, like, hey, things were happening.

[Host 1]

These things were happening. But, you know, it. It literally is watching somebody just go around and start little fires and then you're like, wow, it's a fire. That's so entertaining. It's like, yeah, nothing natural about it, you know, it's just an art.

[Host 3]

One thing I, one thing I really don't like. One thing I, I, I don't love calling for certain housewives to be fired. I know I've done it many times. I don't love doing it because I like to trust the process etc and like sometimes when we say get rid of them, like we throw the baby out with the bathwater way too much in Bravo. But that being said, I do, I really, I really do think that Bryn, there are upsides to her being on this cast. I do think she can be very fascinating and interesting when she lets her guard down and she can't. She does have the potential to be a good real housewife, but her, her like facade that she puts up is so annoying. And I do really think it injects this show with a lot of juvenile tonal notes where it just is like people kind of like covering their mouth like oh my God, oh my God. And I just. When you watch the other housewives that are on, there's just seems to be just a much more electric feeling amongst the cast. And I think that Bryn may be the issue here.

[Host 1]

Here actually, I think the whole, I think that they're either not fun or they're just mean spirited or they're trying too hard. I just think there's too much not working. You know, Brent sucks, Aaron sucks. I don't know what I would do. But I do know as far as the Brent argument, you know, with Jen Shaw on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, when she went to prison, everybody was like, well, the show's over. Because that was the lightning rod. And, and my biggest complaint with Jen Shaw, I never liked Jen Shaw because she was always starting for no reason and faking stuff and having going histrionics for no reason. And you know, it was, she sucks all the air out of the room. So you never really got to see what would happen with the other women because they never got the chance. It was always the gen show and if it wasn't, she would start crying and screaming and throwing things and, and when she went to prison, we finally got to see what it would be like with the other ladies and they could breathe and it turned into a better show. I mean, all around the past two seasons have been the best seasons, I think so. So, you know, maybe it is that. Maybe you do just need to get rid of the one that's you know, trying the hardest to make stupid drama happen for no reason.

[Host 3]

And like, the show needs to focus on, I think the show has to focus on the people that we gravitated to last season, which is Jessel, Jenna. I mean, Jenna has been kind of boring this season, but I think that's also because she hasn't like the show has been so focused on Eren and Brynn this season and UBA to a certain extent, but really Aaron and Brynn so much that like the people who were popping last season have been kind of on the sidelines. They've been definitely like ancillary characters, the main drama. And I think that tonally they, they, they took some wrong steps.

[Host 1]

I would kind of like a real, I would kind of like maybe an L Word version. You know, I like, I think it, if it. I don't know that Jenna and Raquel are strong enough personalities to lead a Housewives so show, you know, like, Raquel's a cool person, Jenna's a cool person. They can't really lead a show, but they probably have a lot of wackadoo friends that could. And I think it might be fun to have like kind of a modern L Word type take show on this, bring in all their crazy ass friends and watch them go. Because listen, you want to see some lady, you want to see some ladies have some good fights, join a lesbian friend group, because I've got one and those girls are good. Like, I'd watch it. I love the L Word. I didn't watch a real, the real version, the reality version, but the L Word is a great show. I love that. I would totally watch a version of Housewives that was like that. And you, they've got two pretty strong tent poles there, no pun intended. So they should, they should maybe do that. I don't know. They need to do something drastic.

[Host 2]

We need more del.

[Host 3]

We need more deluded people in the fun way like Jessel and we need campy people and we just, we just can't have, we need also some older ones. Women. You know what? I don't think, I don't think Housewives cast that really have like a predominantly, like a cast that's largely in their 30s. It's. I don't, I just don't know if that's as strong. Although SLC is sort of skews a little.

[Host 1]

Classics were though. That's, I mean, that's how they all start, you know. And then you, you watch people go through that time period, that decade or whatever. It's what it's supposed to be, I think, but, you know, I mean, we're in the tail end of like, the Rooney and the jerseys and the stuff where they are a little bit older now, so maybe we want that because of that. I mean, I don't know. Whatever it is, they just need more fun. Just come on.

[Host 3]

They just fix it, fix it, fix it.

[Host 1]

Bravo get funny. Crazy. Not just boring dish rags like Aaron. Try hards like Bren. Come on, man. You owe us more than this. Bravo.

[Host 3]

You can do it. We have faith in you.

[Host 1]

So by the way, Bravo's like, no, we don't owe you stupid Ronnie. But come on, we believe. We're. We're here anyway. We'll. We'll keep eating the slot that you give us. Just know we know you can do it. Look at your other.

[Host 3]

Just add some seasoning. Add some seasoning, please. Thanks, everyone, for being here.

[Host 1]

Less Kashi, more Fruit Loops.

[Host 3]

Could I amend that to less Kashi and more Frosted Flakes? Because I don't like Froot Loops.

[Host 1]

Fruity peppers.

[Host 3]

Oh, I guess Froot Loops. I don't do fruity, you know, fruity cereals.

[Host 1]

Come on, Ben, it's fruity.

[Host 3]

I know, I know. Froot Loops is the phrase. Okay, I know it was. I know. I actually literally just Aaroned that pun for you. Like, you made like, a perfectly good pun and I 100 errand it like, I don't like Fruit Loops. Oh, God.

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Bye. Love you.

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