#2707 RHOBH S1409 Part One: Meme to Me

Summary

Watch What Crappens Episode #2707: RHOBH S1409 Part One - "Meme to Me"

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: January 29, 2025

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Introduction and Episode Overview

In this episode of Watch What Crappens, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive deep into Season 14, Episode 9 of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH), titled "Meme to Me." The hosts provide a comprehensive and humorous analysis of the latest developments within the glamorous yet tumultuous lives of the RHOBH cast members.

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Key Plot Points

1. Kyle's Struggles and Family Dynamics

   The episode opens with a focus on Kyle Richards, who is depicted grappling with feelings of loneliness despite having a seemingly large family. Ben remarks, “[05:03] It was like, if there's ever been a sign for the return of Lisa Vanderpump, it's got to be all these fucking broken birds littering the beaches of North America.”

   Kyle's interactions with her family, particularly her daughters, are scrutinized. Ronnie observes, “[11:51] She really complains a lot about being an empty nester. Like, don't all like Sophia and the other one, Alex, Sophia and Alexia and Porsche. Don't they all live at home still?”

2. The Mysterious Bird Incident

   A recurring theme in the episode is the symbolic presence of birds crashing into Kyle's house, representing her internal struggles. Ben humorously notes, “[15:17] The way she was just, like, creeping up to that window. I was like, are you auditioning for the next Halloween movie?”

   Ronnie adds a personal touch, sharing her own experiences with wildlife, “[16:44] I have that peacock that comes to visit me every day and he's getting. So I say, let's open the door.”

3. Kyle's Relationship Turmoil and Sponsor Intervention

   The hosts discuss a pivotal moment where Kyle's marriage issues are intertwined with her sponsorships, leading to a breakdown in her personal life. Ben critiques the involvement of sponsors in personal matters, “[38:34] The sponsor should not be living your life for you. The sponsor should not be breaking up with your wife for you.”

   Ronnie emphatically states, “[38:51] I don't care. I feel like the sponsor should be there for you to catch you if you're, like, having trouble.”

4. Confrontations and Alliances

   The episode highlights confrontations between Kyle and her friends, with Garcelle accentuating her frustration. Ben observes, “[43:38] So Kyle does what she does best to make herself feel comfortable. She goes to a place that's decorated like Lisa Vanderpump's living room.”

   The dynamic shifts as Sutton emerges as a potential antagonist, “She's like, you know that I live in the country-ish in Texas...” with Garcelle preparing to take a stand against Kyle’s antics.

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Character Analysis

• Kyle Richards: Portrayed as struggling with loneliness and attempting to maintain control through material means, Kyle’s character arc centers around her inability to cope with her evolving family dynamics and personal issues.

• Garcelle Beauvais: Positioned as a voice of reason, Garcelle challenges Kyle's narrative, asserting, “[43:38] So Kyle does what she does best to make herself feel comfortable.”

• Sutton: Emerging as a formidable figure, Sutton is depicted as the season’s antagonist, with Ronnie admiring her intensity: “[42:15] I love Sutton's just, you know, burning down this season because they show in the preview.”

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• Ben Mandelker [05:26]: “Honestly, what I really loved about this episode is that we finally got to see Garcelle's beach house.”

• Ronnie Karam [08:58]: “Clerkpassword...just need to hear from you.”

• Ben Mandelker [13:26]: “Kyle, you can't complain about how lonely you are.”

• Ronnie Karam [26:41]: “She's acting like she's Miss Havisham.”

• Ben Mandelker [29:15]: “If you're ready for that new year, new mindset energy, you've got to tune in.”

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Insights and Conclusions

Ben and Ronnie provide sharp critiques of the ongoing narratives within RHOBH, highlighting the show's blend of personal drama and superficial glamour. They emphasize Kyle’s continued struggle with authenticity and her dependency on material possessions to mask deeper emotional voids. The introduction of a bird as a symbolic antagonist serves as a metaphor for Kyle’s relentless self-sabotage.

The hosts also dissect the complex web of relationships and alliances, particularly focusing on how sponsorships and external influences exacerbate personal conflicts. Garcelle’s role as a catalyst for change within the group dynamic underscores the show's theme of confronting uncomfortable truths.

Ben concludes with a humorous yet insightful take on how RHOBH’s portrayal of women reflects broader societal issues related to mental health, relationships, and the quest for personal fulfillment amidst public scrutiny.

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Final Thoughts

Watch What Crappens delivers an engaging and entertaining recap of RHOBH Season 14, Episode 9, blending humor with poignant observations. Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam’s dynamic commentary offers listeners both laughter and critical insights into the lives of Beverly Hills’ most talked-about women.

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Stay tuned for Part Two of this episode recap, where Ben and Ronnie will continue to unravel the complexities and humorous mishaps of RHOBH's latest season.

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[Ronnie Karam]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Happens, the podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on your bravs. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben. Hi, Ben.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm good.

[Ben Mandelker]

How I'm doing? Well, I think you just muted yourself by accident, by the way, when you touched your microphone. So in the meantime, I'll just say, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's that kind of morning. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the show. We're so excited. We're both doing the show from New York City in our beautiful hotel rooms. And we are going to be doing the crappy awards this Saturday at the Town hall on Broadway. We're so excited. We're having so much fun putting it together. I don't know how this learning lines thing is going to go, but hey, we're going to roll with it. And you can get streaming tickets for that. It's almost sold out. I mean, it's basically sold out. There's like 20 tickets left. So if you can't get tickets, stream it. Okay, it's going to be streamable. You can get the links over on watch whatcrappens.com we're also going to be on Watch what Happens live Thursday night as B10 does with Ms. Patricia at Madison Austin. Now, damn it, Madison Austin from Southern Charm. So that should be fun times. We're excited to do that. And also we're on tour next week. We're going to be in Salt Lake City and Denver and we have a ton of cities coming up. So go to watch what crafts.com to get your tickets. That's also where you'll find Patreon links for Patreon for traders, recaps, and guess what else for video, which we're on right now. You can see our faces. So thank you, everybody. Wow. So Beverly Hills, huh? What'd you think of Bed Hills?

[Ben Mandelker]

It was, you know. You know what I liked about it is that it took the tradition that was Started with Roni, and it said, we're going to move forward with it, which is dead birds on beaches. So, I mean, if there's ever been a sign for the, like, return of Lisa Vanderpump, it's got to be all these fucking broken birds that are, like, littering the beaches of North America.

[Ronnie Karam]

Not only that, we had the bird crashing into Kyle's house over and over again.

[Ben Mandelker]

My favorite, that was literally my favorite part of the entire season was Kyle in her I'm at home alone montage, getting startled by a bird.

[Ronnie Karam]

So funny. And sometimes you just need to listen to nature, you know, because, you know, that bird was just like my Kyle. Goodbye. Goodbye.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it was fun. What did you think about the episode?

[Ronnie Karam]

I loved it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Good. I thought that was really good.

[Ronnie Karam]

I loved it. I was so proud of Kyle, oddly enough, for, like, not freaking out and crying. Although I did miss it because I'm loving Kyle's just descent into madness. I love when Kyle is just a crying, temper tantrum throwing mess. It's like my favorite version of Kyle. So I was kind of sad to see her grow up a little bit, but I thought it was nice, you know, I mean, all those people drove to Ventura County. Nobody complained about how long it took. I thought that was nice. That's very rare in a group of LA people. I mean, Ben comes to the Valley to have sushi and I hear about it for a week.

[Ben Mandelker]

You do. And you know, and I have to say, you know what, actually, you know, what I really loved about this episode is that we finally got to see Garcelle's beach house. I was like, I wonder what this house looks like. I wonder if we can finally get a tour of it. I just don't feel like I've seen it enough.

[Ronnie Karam]

I just. I wonder if that was handed to her or if she actually worked for that her entire life.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know what I wonder? Did she do it herself? Can I see what the tiles look like again? I don't think I've seen it so far this season at all.

[Ronnie Karam]

I hope they give us a slow motion tour of this house because we have not seen it. That said, gorgeous place. It's so nice and she should be proud. You know, that's an amazing accomplishment. I want that house. What am I not doing?

[Ben Mandelker]

We speak out of jealousy, but it's just funny because, you know, it's like, well, if you think about it, below Deck does this every single week. Every single new charter, they do a boat tour for the guests, and they just guide us around that boat, like, we haven't seen it all season. It's like, yeah, we know where the salon is. We know what the bedrooms look like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Here's a flash, a very flashy slow motion shot of Robert Goulet's butt toilet or, like, butt bidet or whatever it is on that show. The golden butt bidet, you know, for Robert.

[Ben Mandelker]

The Goulet bidet.

[Ronnie Karam]

The Goulet bidet. They're always like, Robert Goulet style, you know? So we open this one. This is episode nine, for those of you counting. Ding. We opened this one with a Trixie Monocle song. And she's like, I want to see the sun come up. Some people wait their entire lives For a chance at a life like mine. We only get one and I'm doing it right. Some people wait their entire life. I was like, she must be on the drive to Ventura county, because this is someone who's waiting in traffic. This song. I've been waiting my entire life to.

[Ben Mandelker]

Find the exit, you know, this whole, like, I don't understand what all of this has to do with wanting to see the sun come up. She's like, some people wait an entire life to have a life like mine. A life where you've never seen the sunrise.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's a depressing song, but also it's like girl pop. But it's like, girl, get out of bed. You know, like, the whole thing is just like, will I live another day? I love my life. I could be dead any moment. I love my life.

[Ben Mandelker]

Set your fucking alarm. Wake up. Wake up an hour earlier. You'll see the sunrise. You know, it's nice, but it's not that, like, it happens literally every day.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Are you in jail? Are you, like, in a hole in prison? You know, like, what's happening?

[Ben Mandelker]

I know we speak with sun privilege right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Actually, they left. They came to turn down my room last night, and they closed the blinds in here, and I didn't know. And it was completely dark. And I was like, is the world over? I woke up like, has it finally happened? Because I've watched so many end of the world things that everything. It's like the city's on fire. This place is. You know, every bad news that happens, I'm like, okay, well, I guess now's the time. You know, I just kind of brush my teeth because I don't want to get to heaven with dirty teeth, you know? And it turns out they just closed the blinds. I had a very depressing morning. So actually, the song is speaking to me. I just want to see the sun come up. I was like, just one more time. Please let me do. Watch what happens live before you take away the sun.

[Ben Mandelker]

So the moral of the story is Trixie Monocle wrote this song while having blackout curtains installed. She's like, no, I want sheer curtains. So we see Kyle. We see. I feel like this was happened a lot, this episode where we see this picture of Kyle and Mauricio and the family. And there was like a. Is it in my imagination? Because I watched this, like, a few days ago. So it's, like, a little hazy, but, like, I felt like there were multiple transitions in this episode where they kind of, like, sliced and diced up this photo and had it go, like, sliding across the screen. Is that just in my head?

[Ronnie Karam]

I think it. I think it's just in your head. It is what they're doing with Kyle. I mean, every time they show Kyle, they're like, pull, Kyle, Kyle. Kyle's family isn't at home anymore. Like, I get that that can be a sad thing. I'm not taking away from that. But she still has, like, a huge family. Like, she's on the phone with her kids all day, every day, and she's like, look at me. Nothing to do. I'll go on DM and find someone else to date, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, be quiet, Kyle. I can't. I can't.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's acting like she's Miss Havisham. It's like, ma'am, you weren't, like, in the prime of your life. Go out. Go take a Pilates class. Go read a book. Go to the library. Take. Pick up a hobby. Take a cooking class. Go to the video store. I know they don't exist anymore, but there is one still in West. Say, go there, find a video and just do something. I think it's really not that hard.

[Ronnie Karam]

Call Jamie Lee Curtis. You know what I mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And the way they do it, too. I'm like, has this family been kidnapped? Are they being held ransom? Like, they just show these, like, slow pictures of Mauricio, you know, always looking so vacant, you know, I've never seen somebody take pictures looking so vacant so consistently. Every time they show a picture of Mauricio, he's just like, well, that says.

[Ben Mandelker]

Vacancy is kind of his job, though. It's called real estate. You know, the other thing is slow.

[Ronnie Karam]

Pictures, and it's like this whole family gone. Kyle only gets to cook dinner for this family five nights a week now instead of seven.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. For someone whose daughters all still live at home, she really complains a lot about being an empty nester. Like, don't all doesn't like Sophia and the other one, Alex, Sophia and Alexia and Porsche. Don't they all live at home still? Is that just me? It feels like they have live at home energy.

[Ronnie Karam]

I think. I think a couple of them have moved. I think only Portia lives at home. Right? I don't know. Like, I get the loneliness thing, but as someone who spends a lot of time alone, like, unless you're finding an Eminem in your belly button and being like, was this from last week? I'm going to eat it anyway. I don't want to hear from you. You know what I mean? Like, you. You haven't really suffered like the rest.

[Ben Mandelker]

Of us, you know, I just made myself mad. And I'll tell you why. Because I don't know why it took me so many years to realize this. But, you know, we always talk about how Kyle copies her successful friends. And we all know, like, the Kard, everyone starts with a K. They're like. They're like a jeweler. Every Kardashian begins with K and K. Like, I don't know why it took me so long to realize that Kyle was totally copying the Kardashians, but just by having all her daughter's names end with a Alexia, Portia, Farah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So it's good because whenever your car's broken, you know you have a AAA to come.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's what they had to. They couldn't. They couldn't just. Just two. Two A daughters. They're like, I don't want to have just aa. Let's get to aaa.

[Ronnie Karam]

Let's get to aaa. I want my flaps fixed for free. By the way, guys, in case you're wondering about the humor today, it's not gonna get better than this. Okay? So, yeah, we see the sad family, like, they've all been kidnapped. And then Kyle's like, hey, Siri. And Siri's like, please stop talking to me. She's like, siri. Because, you know, they added this new, like, Apple intelligence to the phone. And I like that she's sassier now. She's just like, you know what? I don't like you. Okay? I'll only answer if you stop crying. How about that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Listen, Kyle, you can't complain about how lonely you are. And then when the robots reach out to have a conversation with you, you shun them, okay? Like, talk. Beggars can't be choosers. If the robots. If the robot wants to talk to you, you talk to the robot.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm so glad my mom doesn't have my name in the phone, like Kyle does, like, with the label. Because Kyle is like, hey, could you call Portia, my love bug? Oh, my God. Mine would be like, call Ronnie, that ungrateful little. You know, I don't want to hear, call Ronnie, the calorie consumer.

[Ben Mandelker]

So. So she calls Portia as. While she mixes agave and powder in a bowl, which is, like, so. So California. So Portia. Portia's like, hi, Mom. And she's like, hey, honey. How was sleeping at Dad's? It was good. I didn't have to eat agave and powder for breakfast again, so I was really happy about that.

[Ronnie Karam]

I thought dad had a stroke or something overnight, but it turns out it was just his regular resting face. And then Kyle's like, you know, the thing about having a big family is that there's always somebody home. But nowadays, there's just so many days where I'm alone at home all by myself, and then we just see a montage of Kyle doing things alone, like moving a chair that time. Remember? That was a big scene. I'm glad they carry a bowl.

[Ben Mandelker]

And the best part is she. At one point, Kyle goes, like, creeping up to her own window. I mean, you could not act like. Like a. Like a baddie woman more than a batty person. It's not just. It's not a female thing, but you could not act like a batty woman more than Kyle walking up that window. And so it was just funny enough watching her go up to that window, but then the fact that a bird came out of nowhere.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's a Vanderpump fan. The bird's just like, I'm gonna get this bitch. I'm gonna get her one day.

[Ben Mandelker]

The way she was just, like, creeping up to that window. I was like, are you auditioning for the next Halloween movie? Like, why are you doing a horror movie right now to this window and.

[Ronnie Karam]

The window express that you're trying to fly into Kyle's house of all houses, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, God, that poor bird. Oh, God. It was a Faye Resnick bird.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's got terrible wicker baskets, so. Or bad closet organizer. You remember when she was like, oh, my God, faded my closet. And we walked in, and they were all, like, target. Target shelving. I was like, wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was all wrought iron furniture from, like, with, like, brown and, like, red accents or gold. So this is my favorite kind of.

[Ronnie Karam]

Episode where not much happens, and we just talk about faze wicker Baskets.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Kyle's like, it just feels lonely sometimes. I'm like, you also have two sisters who live in the same city. Like, I just feel like there's so many options for her and I just am not gonna. I just can't feel bad for this, this storyline right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Here's who I feel bad for. The bird. Why isn't it. Why isn't she going out there and trying to help the bird? Literally, the bird just keeps banging up against the window like the bird is trying to harm itself. Go help it. Go talk to the bird.

[Ben Mandelker]

No lesson. Tell you. Let me tell you something. That bird does not need help. That bird is also being really annoying, right? I don't like the bird storyline either.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love the bird storyline. Well, you know that I live in. I live in kind of the country. Well, not the country, but for me it's kind of countryish in Texas and there's so much wildlife. And you know, I go out there and talk to it. I have that peacock that comes to visit me every day and he's getting. So I call him Frank. I don't know what his real name is, but I go out there and I talk. Know I have a little squirrel that I go out there and talk to and feed. I mean, I just love it. So I say, let's open the door. Let the burning. It obviously wants to do something.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, because like a bird that like keeps going after a window. When I was a child, there was this one robin that I tell you, it was like every spring robin. It was the most annoying robin, this robin. Because there was just something. I know this robin would always come from my window and would come over and over. It was like. It was like, oh God. It's like at like a certain time of the year, like it's springtime, hormones kick in for this robin and I don't know if it was trying to mate with its reflection or attack its reflection or just stupid. Like every spring this robin would just start banging on my window. And I don't know, I think the fact that it was a robin just made it all the worse. Like the fact that it was like this bird. You just see this red, red chested bird that's like, hi. And I mean like, I. It just. It would never go away. I would like. I remember one time I drew a picture of a skull and put it on the window thinking that would scare it. Thinking that like a robin would be scared by the same things that humans are had no effect. But I put. I literally had a Skull in my window to get rid of this robin. And it would just come back. Yeah, I drew a skull. I drew three skulls and I put them all up there.

[Ronnie Karam]

You should have like a chicken, a chicken bone. You know, like when you eat a chicken leg or something, you should just like, hung a little bone there, like, warning.

[Ben Mandelker]

People who came to visit our house must have thought I was a deranged child. He's like, why does your son have a picture, three drawings of skulls in his windows? I was like, to scare off the robin. It's tormenting me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Is your son's room poisonous? So we go to. We go back to this conversation with Portia, who does not want to be on the phone with her mother. I mean, this Portia. Just leave Portia alone. You know what I mean? Like, she's taken enough of your shit, Kyle. Like, just let her live her life. You know, she goes to her dad's one night. You can't just fucking leave her alone. So Portia's like, oh, my God. Oh, Kyle, by the way, is like, how's your Portia? Portia? Because you know about that for you. So you better answer your fucking phone when I call.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, you know, Kyle is. Kyle's doing some, like, high level manipulation, which is. She buys her daughter an excessively expensive car for the age. It's disproportionate to her age. Like, I think you cannot. Like, that car is like $90,000. Again, start with a Nissan or something, a Hyundai, like a. I don't care what it is, but not a Porsche Cayenne. Anyway, she gets her this car. Like, oh, my God, you have a car now. You can be independent. And then, of course, that comes with. Now I get to guilt you because now you've taken your car and driven away from me. So now I'm going to call and bother you for the rest of your life.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's not fair. So she, like, calls and reminds her. Do you remember the car I bought you? Can I come to lunch with you and your sisters? And porch is like, well, I'm just supposed to be with my sister. Can I come? I mean, where are you going? Gina, where are you going? Like, in case I want to come. Kyle, if they wanted you to go, they would have told you you're not invited. They need. And then Kyle at least has the emotional intelligence to be like, I think that they want to talk about the divorce. They want to talk about your crazy ass and how they can block you while keeping their cars.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, Kyle, we need like, we need, we need to find something for Kyle. We have to. Can we like introduce her to origami or something or just give her something to do with her hands? I'm not sure what it is, but she's, she's spiraling.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

So then we see how depressed she is because she walks around with her tea or whatever, her bowl of powder, whatever she's doing. So then she facetimes Erica Girardi and just keeps posing herself in the, in the FaceTime picture, like to get the perfect pose. And I just Love when thin people are so insecure. I mean, this girl works out 20 times a day. She looks amazing, and even she's insecure. So, you know, to all the T shirt pullers out there, you know, you pull at your T shirt to take a picture. I felt validated. So thank you. I'm a huge Kyle Stan after this episode. It was a great one for me.

[Ben Mandelker]

What a twist. So she FaceTimes Erica. And Erica is in her standard FaceTiming uniform, which is a robe and, like, a towel in her hair like this. For some reason, that's, like, the only way that Erica seems to answer FaceTimes. Hey. Hi, babe.

[Ronnie Karam]

How's it going?

[Ben Mandelker]

So, first of all, I have to tell you, I am of the view that there is too many people. I have taken to calling for them. The board of directors. There are too many people in the situation. And this is between you, the two of you, and your friendship together. And the rest of us need to butt the fuck out.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, yeah. I'm telling you, like, full menti b. Okay, Is that like, mental brain Kesha one time who has a dollar sign in her name, and now Kyle's all street.

[Ben Mandelker]

What is meanti b? I mean, God, I know we sound old, but, like, is that like. That's, like, for mental breakdown. Okay, that's what I thought.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, full blown mentv.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that expression is on fleek. So. Remember when Kyle Richards ruined that for pop culture? Like, on fleek was like, the thing. And then Kyle came on to Beverly Hills and was like, this is so on fleet. We're like, well, that was fun. That was fun while it lasted.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it's over now. She's, like, so demure. Please stop. Please just stop.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm shocked she hasn't said that yet, to be honest.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she will. We're a little behind, you know, but she will. I. I believe in her. So she's like, oh, my God. In all my years, I've never treated like this. I've never felt this bad with a group of girls. Kyle, nobody did anything to you. They're asking you questions, you little weirdo. What, are we in a cold? What are we in a cold? She's like, you're the lady with the a hats on everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, people don't understand the duress I've been going through. First I had to go to Chuck E. Cheese. Then I had to go to a spa day, and I had to walk out of the spa day. It's been the worst two days of my life.

[Ronnie Karam]

I got Questioned about memes. It's been terrible. So she's, like, literally insane. I've had my marriage question, my personal life question, and now my character, my integrity. Now you can all fuck off. That's why I draw the line. That is where I draw the line. And Erica's like, I'll figure it out. You know, if you want to figure it out, you can figure it out. If you don't want to figure it out, you know, I have to figure. Did I not just make it very clear? I don't give a. Kyle. So please stop calling me.

[Ben Mandelker]

All I know is I'm going to say what I have to say to dorit, and I'm not going to continue to discuss this and go down this situation anymore. And if she wants to move forward, great. And if she wants to keep on doing this, then I'm going to disengage her and that's it. But I'm not going to talk about it anymore. I'm not going to do it, Kyle.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm not at a weight watchers meeting, and I'm sick of being asked to weigh in. I'm not doing it, Kyle. Please stop talking to me. And do you remember when Erica was all depressed after Tom and she moved into her little hovel in west Hollywood, where she currently. Her sad, sad little hovel that's so emerging.

[Ben Mandelker]

Her igloo.

[Ronnie Karam]

Her igloo. And the paparazzi was always out there taking pictures, and she just went out to try and get, like, her taco bell delivery from doordash or whatever, and she just looked like hell. I mean, you know, we've all had those days where we're depressed, but I love that that's how she always looks when she answers the phone. And it kind of makes me like Erica that she's kind of one of us. You know, she's just between the times that she has to be somewhere. She's just absolute trash. Like, she's got a little crunchy tortilla supreme or whatever on her. On the corner of her mouth. I mean, it makes me like her more because every time she answers in that dirty bathrobe and she's just kind of lying in bed like, oh, God, do I have to answer the phone? Liar. Pretend. You mean? Just pretend.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're really having a lot of. A lot of plot twists on this episode so far. Like, guys, I'm a stan of Kyle now. Erica, she's one of us. I think I love her. This is huge.

[Ronnie Karam]

I like Olsen, but I go with that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Erica's so funny, because she's like, they're talking. And she goes, I will leave you with this. Who says that in a phone call? That's, like, what you say. That's what you say when you sign off on the news or something. And she's like, kyle, I will leave you with this. If you two come to some resolution. That's between y'all. All of us weighing in is bullshit. Good night and good luck.

[Ronnie Karam]

I like it because she stole to Kyle 20 times. She doesn't want to talk about it, and Kyle won't stop talking about it. So she's like, I'll leave you with this stupid. It's done. I said, good day, sir. I said, good day. So Kyle just sighs. And then here I am, alone again. The sound of sidelines. And the bird just, like, slams into the window.

[Ben Mandelker]

I feel like that bird. If you really think about it, it's probably, like, a carrier pigeon that Kathy sends. Like, oh, I think Kyle would like this. I'm gonna send a note with a carrier pigeon. Oh, my God. The bird's trying to get me.

[Ronnie Karam]

So the bird is holding, like, a little scroll. Kyle opens it, and it's a drawing of Kathy at lunch with her daughters. You haven't invited Kathy?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's the latest song from Morgan Wade. I was trying. I was trying to be real discreet, getting you a message. So I feel.

[Ronnie Karam]

I do feel like we've been robbed of Morgan Wade. I mean, she was really such a good character last year. I miss that. Hey, guy. How you doing, baby?

[Ben Mandelker]

You're a good tattoo guy. You're real pretty today of you. Of your face, because you're so pretty right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

I like spicy shrimp. I like boiled shrimp. I like peeled shrimp. I like unfeeled shrimp. I like boiled shrimp.

[Ben Mandelker]

You want to go fishing? You want to go fishing, Guy? I just skinned. I just skinned a squirrel.

[Ronnie Karam]

Cow. So Dorit goes to a restaurant called Cosette, which is beautiful, you know, and tragic, because Les Miserables is.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, yes, indeed. It's Cosette. I have a question. I don't know if you'll know the answer. Answer to this, and I feel like I'm putting you on the spot. Is Cosette in that new place in.

[Ronnie Karam]

In.

[Ben Mandelker]

In the valley that they took over the Sportsman Lodge and made it, like, the nicest mall of all time. Do you know what I'm talking about?

[Ronnie Karam]

Where is it?

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, it's like, at, like, Coldwater Canyon in Ventura. They put up this. A beautiful mall.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I go there all the Time. Yeah, I love it. That's where the.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that sure is.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't think that's in there.

[Ben Mandelker]

I have to say, you know, I've talked a lot of. About the Valley, like, a lot of. And this may be my new favorite mall in Los Angeles. It is so gorgeous. And it has, like, everything you need. It's not even that big. It just has what you need. And it's so pretty for a mall.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. One. It's got the sugar fish, and it's got a couple little stores, a candy store, one of those really fancy candy stores.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's got a Roberto's pizza.

[Ronnie Karam]

Pizza Roberta's. I love Roberta's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, my God.

[Ronnie Karam]

Amazing pizza. What bread, what crust, by the way, the crunch. God. God damn it. I love you, Roberta.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just want to say I just answered my own question. Cosette is, in fact, in this beautiful.

[Ronnie Karam]

Mall, so I've never even noticed it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I just.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't know, past that and been like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because I think it's upstairs.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my dear, I don't feel any pain. So the bartender's like, hey, what do you typically lean towards? Light and fresh or heavy or red. I'll just pour it. Or typically lean towards.

[Ben Mandelker]

Whatever I lean toward. Make sure there's no carcass on it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Here's what I lean towards. Alcohol. Pour it. Okay. More alky, less talky.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Bose arrives and she's like, hello, boo. Oh, my gosh, how cute are you? And Dorita's there. It's like, oh, you always look so fly.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, you look so fly. She goes, no, you also fly.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. You look like you're in a loyalty program for American Airlines because you're very fly. That's what that means, right?

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's like, hey, Brusky, should we talk about you first? And it's like, no, I couldn't. Let's talk about me last. Pk Severe alcoholic, killing me. Let me tell you, a life with not only a moderate alcoholic, but a severe one. I just can't, Bose. I really can't. What do I tell Jiggy?

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, it's absolutely terrible seeing what alcohol has done to him. Anyway, cheers to you and me. Let's drink these alcoholic drinks. So booze. Because Bose is like. She's like, are you sure you don't want to start? Because I'm feeling an energy. And she goes, well, Bose, now that you say it, I feel like I have been holding up the walls. I've been feeling like I'm just not strong enough. I can Fight back. I am. I'm strong. But there's only so much fighting you can do. Bose.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm holding up the walls, and she's like, bose has become my ride or die. She's proven to be someone I can talk to, doesn't talk back, listens, nods. It's all I really need. And Bose is like, well, I don't want to keep bringing up the Kyle thing, but what a. Am I right? So listen, there's something that keeps bugging me about something that's being said. Tell me. Pose. Tell me. Well, you said that Kyle was one of the first people you told about your divorce, but then she keeps saying she doesn't even know you're having problems. What do you think about that one?

[Ben Mandelker]

So we see a flashback of Dorit sharing her separation with the group. And then three weeks earlier, we see, you know, Kyle's Bane popping out and Dorit saying, like, you knew we were not getting along. We're separated and we're not getting along. And he goes, erica assured me that you guys weren't getting along. I did not know that. But then six weeks earlier, and we see it sort of again where Kyle is like, you guys aren't getting long. I didn't even know that. So Dorit's like, there was a point in time. This is a year and a half ago where I was in a really bad time and a moment with PK and there was select few people that I trusted enough to open up to Kyle and to open up to, and Kyle was one of them.

[Ronnie Karam]

And so then we see a flashback where she opened it up to Kyle and she's like, PK has been spending so much time in London. I just. I feel like we're not connected. I feel like my arms are up. There's a roof on it. I'm holding up the house. Carl. And look, in Kyle's defense, because I'm a huge Kyle. Stan. Now Kyle just doesn't listen to anything, and we've known that for years. Remember when she didn't know who Nanny Kay was? J's like, I've been raised by Nanny K. Nanny K. Basically, my mother, Nanny K died. Who's that? Who?

[Ben Mandelker]

Kyle. So bad. And then Kyle. Yeah, because, you know, Dorit has this whole thing about, like, I feel like we're disconnected. I'm, like, worried about our relationship and. Cause, like, like, oh, yeah, I've had those thoughts. I think it's normal to have those thoughts. It was like this kind of generic line to say, yeah, don't worry. About it. Don't worry about it. You're fine. You're fine. Dorit's like, she was well aware. So Bose tells us Kyle continues to lie. She's lying about the depth of her relationship with PK and what she's saying about. About Dorit. And she's clearly lying about the depth of her knowledge about what's going on with PK and Dorit's marriage. And if Kyle is afraid of looking bad, she's looking a worse. Now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Can I tell you? Beau's coming for Kyle in season one is so nice. It's so bright. It really is nice. And so she's like, well, the day PK and I decided to separate, there was a room, there were walls, there were my arms holding up a roof. And under that roof was Piquet, his sponsor, which is a bag of Pringles. And me and that bag of Pringles said, we're getting separated. I'd never even known before that Pringle.

[Ben Mandelker]

Told me it was quite adorable. He put little googly eyes on it and everything and said, this is Mr. Mr. Barbecue flavor. And I thought, oh, what an interesting sponsor. He had a lot of things to say.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's like, I don't know if it's the sponsor's fault for making PK leave me or if PK come up with that idea himself. Okay, don't blame the sponsor. And this is. This happens when people, like, start slowing down on the drinking. All the friends are like, you know, what happened? Everything went to. Because you got sober. Thanks a lot. You've ruined my life. You and your sponsor. That little monster.

[Ben Mandelker]

The sponsor, unfortunately, was Mauricio. No, I'm just kidding. I think you guys should separate so PK and I can, like, go to strip clubs. Okay, great. I don't think that she should blame. Anyway, she shouldn't blame the sponsor either, because the sponsor only knows what PK tells him or her. And so, you know, they have a totally skewed view. And I don't. It's weird that the sponsor was there for this conversation. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe that is, like, in a tough conversation, if you're in recovery and you're relatively new to it, maybe it is normal to have a sponsor there. I just feel like the sponsor should be maybe there for you. Okay, me, I'm talking out of my ass, but I don't really care. I feel like the sponsor should be there for you to catch you if you're, like, having trouble. You're Struggling in that moment. The sponsor, I don't feel like, should be there for you to mediate your relationship with your. With your wife.

[Ronnie Karam]

The sponsor should not be living your life for you. The sponsor should not be breaking up with your wife for you. That's crazy.

[Ben Mandelker]

The sponsor should not be weighing in on this discussion. The sponsor should be there observing. So that way, when. Afterwards, when PK is, like, feeling a certain sort of way, then the sponsor can say, when she said this, how did you feel? But unless the sponsor is actually a psychiatrist. But even then, I feel like it's probably not.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, like a therapist or something, but a sponsor? Hell, no. If. If my husband broke up with me in front of a sponsor, I would kill him right there. And the sponsor. I'd kill them both. I'd choke those singles.

[Ben Mandelker]

Now, maybe she meant that PK literally got, like, a sponsor. Like, he. He got, like, a fabfit thumb box. It's like there was a representative there from FabFitFun, and he said the best thing for his brand would be to have a divorce.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, we love our fabfitfun over here. I do it now. If I got broken up with by a fabfitfun box, I dick it. I'd be like, oh, my God, is this a cinnamon candle? Okay, you can go. You can go. But thank you. Thank you for all the great ears. I love the scarf.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna put it out for you real simply, babe. I've got a new sponsorship. Here's how I feel. I'm feeling. I'm feeling fab. I'm feeling fit, not feeling fun babe. So unfortunately, I gotta get the fun back, so we're gonna have to see.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I'd like a fabfit fun box, too. I'm the influencer in the. I got you a fabfit fun box. Open it up. All right. Divorce papers. That's right. The sponsor is like, nail that.

[Ben Mandelker]

From the law firm of Fab Fit and fun and Squat. Trinity's at all.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's BO is like, oh, what a burden for you to absorb, put up with, defend all the things going on and him for that to be the payback. I spent all these years protecting you. Pretend pretending for you, and now you want to tell me we should take some time apart. Give me back all those years. How about that? Give me back all those years. Now, that's who you want there when you're getting a separation? I want those to do it for me.

[Ben Mandelker]

You want that person to do that.

[Ronnie Karam]

I've had it with you. I've added up your hours. They barely come to 40. And what are you doing out there? Taking a cigarette break? We're done. This marriage is over. I've come up with paper clips. I've come up with. With folder clips. I'm trying to think of things that she could have marketed, and I'm really failing. Paper clips and folder clips. What is a folder clip?

[Ben Mandelker]

You don't have to know because she invented it. It's brand new. I'm out of who the have I been married to? And severe alcoholic. That's who. Sorry, I knew the answer to my question. So now we go to Garcelle's house, and she's getting dressed and everything, and she's FaceTiming Sutton, and she's like, by the way, Sutton, random that Kyle wants to have dinner tonight. May I also add, considering that we are going to be seeing each other tomorrow, and basically the women are all going up to Garcelle's beach house, which we've never seen before. That's tomorrow. But Kyle the night before suddenly is like, like, hey, girlfriends, you guys are, like, really cool, and I'm having, like, a little bit of a mint B. So, like, let's have dinner together.

[Ronnie Karam]

And yeah. And Sutton's like, wow. Well, Kyle has asked us to dinner, but it's not all of us. It's just me, Garcelle Air. And then we see the flesh flashback of her doing that. You know what she's doing? She's rallying her troops. She's gonna make us feel sorry for her so that we stay on her side.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love that. I love that Sutton, like, clocks this. And what's also funny is that Sutton is not on Dorit's side. So you just sort of assume that she's going to ally up with Kyle, but she's also not on Kyle's side. So I'm all in favor of this.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love Sutton's just, you know, burning down. Burning it all down this season because they show in the preview of Coming up, and Sutton just becomes the ultimate villain of the season. And I love it. I feel like that's her right rightful place.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, someone just told me. I. I cannot remember who said it. Maybe told both of us. I. I literally cannot remember, but someone told told us, I think, like, oh, I know someone who used to work for Sutton, and she was awful. More awful than you can imagine. I was like, yeah, that's why we love her. Like, you think we don't watch the show we see the show. This is every single thing that I love about Sutton. I know that she. She's got to be a monster to work for. And that is like the best.

[Ronnie Karam]

The way her eyes flash when she changes her. You know, when she starts getting mad about something or she gets defensive, her eyes literally glaze over and they just go into that little squint and I'm, oh, little laser, little Southern laser is going to come out of there and get you. They going, get you. So she's like, Garcelle's like, well, every time we talk about the text, she's just so riled up about it. I mean, how do you think Erica feels about this? And she's like, well, Erica's gonna be like, well, I don't care about the text. If you wanna run off, just run off. I don't give a fuck. And I thought that was actually a pretty good Erica that she did.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sutton did a good Erica. And she pretty much summed up like she was. It was a good Erica both in terms of voice and content.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Kyle does what she does best to make herself feel comfortable. She goes to a place that's decorated like Lisa Vanderpump's living room. And it's this place with just giant pink flowers hanging everywhere. Cause that's thing. And so they go to the restaurant and she orders an oat milk vanilla latte. I don't know why that's important to me. But you know what? I'm over oat milk. I've just had it. I'm back to just regular milk. I'm just. I've had it. I've been. I'm sorry. I'm sick of trying to pretend that this is all great.

[Ben Mandelker]

I am oat milk ascendant, I think, because, you know, I'm obsessed with blue bottle. And I love their ice Nola, which, like the default ice Nola comes with oat milk. And I've tried it with other milks. I was like, ugh, oat milk. But it turns out that I really have grown to enjoy the nutty flavor of oat milk, specifically in a coffee drink. I don't think. I don't like it as like a. With cereal. And I definitely do not like an oat milk based ice cream. It's just like you're at that point, you're just eating ice.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's what I don't like is the ice cream. I do like the oat milk and cereal. It's really good with Fruity Pebbles. I mean, here's my Thing. I'm just. I'm sick of, like, substituting things. I don't need to. You know what I mean? Like, I'm fine with half and half. I like half and half. It's the creamiest. Like, why am I trying to have something to compete with half and half? You can't beat half and half. I mean, if it's a street fight, half and half is gonna kick oatmeal's ass. No oatmeal. Oat milk.

[Ben Mandelker]

I have a question, Ronnie.

[Ronnie Karam]

This.

[Ben Mandelker]

And this is going to come back to half and half. What do you think is the most romantic food you could find in your refrigerator?

[Ronnie Karam]

Butter.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why is that?

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

It just felt romantic.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love butter. I mean, butter makes everything good, right? I feel like butter is, like, the perfect thing to date. It makes everything taste good. It gets. It stays hard, and then it gets soft when you're done with it. And then otherwise, I mean, it just makes everything taste delicious. It can make meat taste good. It can make vegetables taste good. It's good on its own if you're drunk.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because I was playing a party game and we had to answer that question, and. And my friend said half and half was the most romantic thing in the fridge because it's like two halves coming together. And I was wondering if maybe you were going to say that also just because you were being very pro half and half right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, I guess I should have guessed that since we were talking about half and half. But no, I do see that. You know, and it's also compromised because, like, half and half, you know, it's like, not full heavy cream, but all compromise, which is what relationships are about, which is why I'm not in one. I'm a heavy cream kind of a.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kind of a you're in a heavy cream relationship. So, okay, so Garcelle arrived. So now it's just Kyle and Garcello are the only ones there. The producers have clearly held Erica and Sutton in the parking lots. The way Kyle and Garcelle can have this conversation. Also, I want to point out, I believe it was, like, the way this restaurant is set up, is that, like, the table, the booths are kind of, like, all clustered next to each other. So I think it was on Kyle's shot the entire scene. This entire scene, there is, like, a guy whose head is, like, right next to Kyle's and just right in frame. And I was so distracted by it. Did you even notice that?

[Ronnie Karam]

No.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a big head.

[Ronnie Karam]

It just keeps kind of banging into Kyle's head. It's like, damn it.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like, literally, if I was podcasting with you right now, and then there's someone was like, over your shoulder right there the entire time. I was like, is anyone noticing this? There's a man's head right there.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Garcelle comes in and like the true hero she is at lunch is like, I'll have a kettle one martini. Don't fucking argue with me. Just bring it. I have to deal with Kyle. All right? So Kyle's like, well, hold on. I'm better than the last time you saw me. You know, I just have so much going on. My kids have left me. There was a bird that was hanging out with me, but even he left or died, I'm not really sure. Kept banging his head against the window, but it's just been so hard. But, you know, French door, I have.

[Ben Mandelker]

To learn how to open.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, I don't like that. You know, Bose was questioning me, and then Sutton was questioning me, and then I have to show a text to everyone. And then Erica was like, hold on a minute. And then, you know, Garcelle went to Bose the day after Chuck E. Cheese. And I was like, you mean. I mean, you don't even know her. You don't even know her. Why would you go to her house?

[Ben Mandelker]

You literally just heard her.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, I thought she was gonna be a little bit more subtle in the rallying the troops thing, but she's literally like, why would you go to her house?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, Kyle, you went to Bose's house first, actually, to make your case. Also, Kyle, you sitting down, being like, I just have, like, a lot going on. No, you don't. We just saw you getting scared by the bird. You're walking around with your agave and powder bowl through your house from room to room, getting startled by birds outside. You have nothing going on. That's your whole storyline is that you have. You're having empty nests, you're alone, and you're trying to tag along to your 16 year old daughter's lunch date. So please stop trying to act like you are, like, really, like, way down with so much.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Garcelle's like, well, I don't feel like me sharing that information was a violation to Kyle or a betrayal to Kyle. Kyle at Chuck E. Cheese read the text aloud. And that's a sentence I never thought I'd say, but here we are. And let me just add something.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow. Wow. So Kyle's like, I mean, Dorit was coming in and then they're like. They're like, okay, you all sit in a circle, and then we're gonna, like, show it to everybody. And I'm like, what is this? What kind of, like, interrogation is this? And Garcelle's like, who said that? Well, like what? Like what. What kind of cult is this? That's like, my new thing. I'm gonna say that you guys are like a cult, even though I've been the one. One who's been like, the leader of, like, a click for the past six years on this show. But whatever, you guys are in the cult.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Garcelle's like, just admit you talk a little with PK and it's normal. That's what we do. And she's like, but I don't. I really don't. I really don't. And you can tell because I'm not licking my. The corners of my mouth, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, so what happened was, when you read that text at Chuck E. Cheese again, shocking. I keep having to say this, but when you read it, you know, you said, I never said anything. I never say anything you told me and never will. And that sounds cosmic, Kyle. More like, more than memes. And she's like, so you play this game with Garcelle.

[Ronnie Karam]

Garcelle is just gonna tell you the truth. And Kyle is just. She doesn't know what to do because she's used to being surrounded by people who just let her go with her bullshit, you know? And this is the first time that anybody's like, no, Kyle, you're ridiculous. You know, like, no, Kyle. The first season. I love it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Kyle's like, well, first of all, I said, like, obviously, I've known the man for like, seven years, like eight years. Like, whatever. And of course I have text messages. It's like. But nothing about her relationship. Garcelle's like, I don't know if her story is shifting or if I heard it wrong, because all this time, Kyle is just really defending that it's just memes and jokes. Haha. And then we see, like, a montage of her saying memes and jokes. It's actually a very funny montage because it's just her going, guys, all we do is send memes and jokes. A week later, guys, it's just memes and jokes. Memes and jokes. Memes and jokes, guys. Just memes and jokes.

[Ronnie Karam]

But then, of course, today, she's like, well, of course we have more than memes and jokes. Of course we do. She's like, okay, Kyle. So Kyle's like, well, you know, anyway, I thought to myself, like, I've been scrutinized. My marriage scrutinized, my sexuality scrutinized, you know, like, everything. I'm, like, scrutinized. Like, my character, like, is this a cult? Is this a cult? A bird just slams into her head. Ow.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow. It's like I'm watching the Denise Richards storyline all over again. I totally feel bad for her. So Garcelle's.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, and this was so good when they showed that, because she's like, why are you so triggered, Kyle? And she's like, I would never do anything like that, you know? But I was like, I've been a good friend of you. And that's why I don't appreciate the accusation, you know, like, it's not helping. It's not helping us. And then the editors gave us something they've never given us, which is a Kyle is guilty scene. I.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's so good.

[Ben Mandelker]

But you know what was brilliant about it? They set it up in a way where they have no blood on their hands because Kyle says, I pride myself on being a very truthful person. And then we see a montage of Kyle grilling people and demanding them be open and honest. So the fact that they set it up with that line by her, they can say, no, this, Kyle, this wasn't a montage to show what a hypocrite you are. It was a montage of how open and honest you are and how you demand the same from others. So it was just so smart the.

[Ronnie Karam]

Way they did it, the hypocrite montage. So then we see 2020 when they're grilling Denise Richards about potentially hooking up with Brandi Glanville, which was also questioning someone's sexuality, you know? And Denise is like, every single dinner I've been on the receiving end, although it feels like being attacked. God, I miss Denise Richards sentence structure. And Kyle's like, well, when things are brought out in the open, they're out there. They have to be addressed in this group. And that's just it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we go to the Erica divorce scene, and Dorit's like, I would like to have the conversations with Erica. And Kyle's like, I mean, she's not gonna like the questions, but that's like, what's gonna have to happen? She's gonna have to answer more than she is comfortable with, because what. We deserve to know the truth.

[Ronnie Karam]

And 2022 said, I'm not playing the victim. I'm just talking about being more honest in the group. Okay. Open, honest, open, honest. Open, honest, open, honest.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we see this beautiful montage of Kyle pressing for more information and saying like I don't care if it's uncomfortable. You have to give us the truth and you have to, you have to receive these questions. And then we come back and she goes, so for me to be questioned by these women that know me is extremely frustrating to me. It was beautiful. So beautiful.

[Ronnie Karam]

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