#2708 RHOBH S1409 Part Two: Meme to Me

Summary

Watch What Crappens - Episode #2708 RHOBH S1409 Part Two: Meme to Me

Release Date: January 29, 2025

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Podcast: Watch What Crappens
Platform: Wondery

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Introduction

In Episode #2708 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive deep into Part Two of Season 14, Episode 09 of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH), aptly titled "Meme to Me." This episode continues the tumultuous journeys of the housewives as they navigate friendships, personal struggles, and the ever-spectacular drama that fans have come to love.

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Recap of RHOBH S14E09 Part Two: Meme to Me

1. The Dinner Confrontation

The episode kicks off with Erica addressing the group in a confrontational manner. She initiates the meeting with a traditional greeting, but the tension is palpable from the start.

• Erica: "Maybe get out of bed. This better be good. Hi, everybody." (01:45)

As the evening unfolds, Erica orders an Old Fashioned, leading to Sutton's dramatic entrance.

• Sutton: "Sutton is ready to party in her party outfit." (01:57)
  Ben and Ronnie comment on Sutton’s impeccable fashion sense, highlighting her sharp style.

The conversation quickly turns tense as Kyle begins to feel the pressure of apologizing for past conflicts, leading to an awkward standoff.

• Kyle: "I cannot wait for Severance to start again. So yeah, I'll be doing the same thing, watching it all through Prime." (02:38)

Erica’s persistent questioning about Kyle’s recent behaviors pushes Kyle to the brink, culminating in her demanding an apology.

• Ronnie: "First of all, I want to apologize for how I left on Friday." (03:42)
• Erica: "Don't apologize to me, please. That's why they've got churches. Go to a goddamn church." (03:50)

2. The Clash of Personalities

As emotions flare, Sutton attempts to mediate, urging Kyle to recognize her humanity and mistakes without directly addressing the core issues.

• Ben: "But she doesn't just say that, because Kyle probably needs to hear that. But instead, she just keeps going. But, Kyle." (04:06)

Ronnie critiques Sutton's indirect confrontation style, comparing it unfavorably to more straightforward communication methods seen in other social dynamics.

• Ronnie: "This is not how the old school or even New Jersey would handle it. They're just communicating in a weird, quasi-confrontational way." (05:37)

3. The Oxnard Beach House Gathering

Transitioning to Garcelle’s Oxnard beach house, the hosts describe the setting where the housewives attempt to mend fences amidst luxurious surroundings.

• Ronnie: "They drive around in golf carts, classic Housewives style, only to arrive at a freezing beach where the mood is anything but relaxed." (12:18)

Garcelle's attempt to create a comfortable atmosphere with lychee martinis and loungewear leads to both humorous and tense moments.

• Garcelle: "I hope the ladies are ready to let their hair down, have some fun and say, whoa, cuz this is going to be fun." (11:07)

4. Emotional Revelations and Resolutions

Dorit shares her feelings about her divorce, intertwining humor with heartfelt moments that reveal deeper issues within the group.

• Dorit: "Sometimes, in marriages, you need a little time apart." (15:23)

The conversation escalates as Dorit confronts Kyle about betrayal and friendship loyalty, leading to a critical discussion about trust and support within the group.

• Dorit: "Kyle, did you consider us good friends?" (28:04)
• Ben: "When two people are separated, you should choose the side of the girl. Are you on my side or on him?" (29:29)

Ronnie highlights the complexity of maintaining friendships amidst personal conflicts, emphasizing the challenges Kyle faces in balancing relationships.

• Ronnie: "I wish I didn't have to make such ridiculous requests, but I just want to move forward and put all this negativity behind us." (30:04)

5. Light-Hearted Moments Amidst Drama

Despite the heavy drama, moments of levity shine through as the housewives engage in playful activities, such as setting up lanterns and sharing light-hearted banter.

• Ben: "And it is really funny. I really enjoyed this scene. It was like a fun and game scene that I really enjoyed." (37:13)

However, even light moments are tinged with underlying tensions, culminating in a comedic yet symbolic chase after a dead bird.

• Ronnie: "So they all just run away. Just like that on the beach." (37:44)

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Analysis and Insights

1. Communication Breakdown

Ben and Ronnie dissect the nuances of the housewives' interactions, noting Sutton's indirect approach to confrontation as a source of ongoing tension.

• Ben: "That's their love language, you know?" (05:37)
• Ronnie: "Sutton is confronting without actually saying what the issue is." (05:37)

They explore how such communication styles hinder genuine resolution, suggesting that directness could alleviate misunderstandings.

2. The Struggle for Balance

Kyle's attempt to maintain friendships while dealing with personal upheaval is a focal point. The hosts commend her for staying calm amidst chaos but question the feasibility of her requests.

• Ben: "I was actually proud of Kyle because she didn't have a fit. She stayed calm." (31:23)
• Ronnie: "If she wants to make crazy, ridiculous requests, I'm fine with that." (30:55)

This segment underscores the delicate balance between personal well-being and the expectations of friendship within the competitive environment of RHOBH.

3. The Role of Humor

Humor serves as both a coping mechanism and a tool for critique. Ben and Ronnie utilize wit to highlight absurdities in the housewives' behaviors and dialogues, making the recap engaging and relatable.

• Ben: "Call me a case of Benjamin Button, because I'm curious." (06:35)
• Ronnie: "That's quintessential Beverly Hills in that Sutton is confronting without actually saying what the issue is." (05:37)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

1. Erica's Confrontation:

   • "Don't apologize to me, please. That's why they've got churches. Go to a goddamn church." – Erica (03:50)

2. Sutton's Mediation Attempt:

   • "I want Kyle to recognize that she is the same as everyone else, that she is not some creature that lives in this beautiful castle land, and that she is actually human and makes mistakes." – Ben (04:06)

3. Dorit's Stand:

   • "Person, just means I'm gonna have to take a step back from religion." – Dorit (30:05)

4. Humorous Moments:

   • "Get in the car. Get in the car." – Ben (16:42)

5. Emotional Climax:

   • "I do. I like." – Dorit (28:25)

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Conclusions and Takeaways

Watch What Crappens Episode #2708 provides a comprehensive and entertaining analysis of RHOBH S14E09 Part Two: Meme to Me. Ben and Ronnie adeptly balance recapping the episode with insightful commentary, highlighting the intricate dynamics and personal struggles of the housewives. The hosts emphasize the importance of direct communication and the challenges of maintaining friendships amidst personal turmoil, all while infusing the discussion with humor and relatable observations.

For fans of RHOBH or those new to the series, this episode offers a vivid portrayal of the show's drama and the real-life implications of reality TV friendships. Ben and Ronnie's engaging delivery ensures that listeners are both informed and entertained, making the summary accessible and enjoyable for all.

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[Ronnie]

Who cares what happens when there's so much happens? Watch what happens. Who cares what happens when there's a so much that rapin. Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode.

[Ben]

So then Erica comes in, she's like, oh, hi.

[Erica]

Maybe get out of bed. This better be good. Hi, everybody. Hello. Hello, bartender. Hello, bus boy. Hello, Lisa Vanderpump. Flowers. Was I supposed to say that out loud? What the do you want, Kyle?

[Ronnie]

And Erica's like, can I have an old Fashioned? And just like that, Sutton walks right in. And Kyle's like, did someone or did someone order me? So Kyle's like, sutton is ready to parte in her party outfit. Oh my God. She had must have had a minty B when she picked that out. Am I right? That outfit is so on fleek. I'm Audi 5000 in five minutes. By the way, guys, I love how.

[Ben]

Erica just clocks everybody's material items every single time. She's like, where'd you get that purse, Sutton? She like, oh, you know, it's adult in cabana. They gave it to us when we went to Laala. I guess I was waiting for the Chuck E. Cheese edition, but you know, they're a little bit behind.

[Ronnie]

Sure.

[Ben]

They'll be sending it.

[Ronnie]

So they order and Kyle orders. Kyle asks about meatballs, which is.

[Ben]

That's a little personal. She's like, h. How are your meatballs? How about you off and let me have some privacy?

[Ronnie]

No, I'm. I'm actually asking about the movie Meatballs, cuz I was in that.

[Ben]

So she wishes.

[Ronnie]

I know.

[Ben]

So then that was a good. I mean, that was an Oscar winner. So then Sutton's like, okay, well, I gotta ask why we're here. Wow, this isn't a shooting day. What do you want? And every. It's just an awkward pause. And Garcelle's like, hold on, let me just give a. I would laugh out loud, but this is more of a moment. So there you go, everybody. Do with that what you will.

[Ronnie]

Sarah goes, well, this is like a meeting of the board of directors. Directors. Wink, wink, Kyle. Remember how I said that's my buzzword for people I don't like anymore? So Kyle's like, first of all. Okay, now I like that. Bang, bang, bang. I'd like to call this meeting to order. Okay, first of all, I want to apologize for how I left on Friday.

[Erica]

Don't apologize to me, please. That's why they've got churches. Go to a goddamn church. I don't have time for this. Have some bread, have some wine. You're forgiven. Jesus Christ.

[Ronnie]

I want to say also what I said and how I feel. I stand by like I do stand by what I. How I went about it and how I acted. I feel very badly about it. So I want to apologize for that.

[Ben]

Well, I just. I just want to be clear. Why are you apologizing exactly? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? For the way that I. Why, Kyle? But why? What was the way? Because I said, stop that. Why? But why, Kyle? Why? And then sudden, Sutton's grilling her in a way that doesn't make sense to me. But then she's like, well, what I want Kyle to do is apologize for holding herself to a different standard than everyone else. I want Kyle to recognize that she is the same as everyone else, that she is not some creature that lives in this beautiful castle land, and that she is actually human and makes mistakes and needs to be accountable. But she doesn't just say. I wish she would just say that, because Kyle probably needs to hear that. But Instead, she just keeps going. But, Kyle. Hey, Kyle, could you hand me a breadstick? Oh, my God, this bread here. I'm going to pretend this breadstick is you. Why breadstick?

[Ronnie]

I know this is. This is quintessential Beverly Hills in that Sutton is confronting without actually saying what the issue is and then just saying it in the confessional. And, I mean, I guess that is just the charm of the show. A lot of times I'm like, ugh, if this were Salt Lake City, they just put it all out on the table, or old school Rooney or even New Jersey. But at this point, maybe I'm just sort of giving myself over to it. That's. This is the way they can. This is the way they communicate on this show. They have, like a weird quasi confrontation that doesn't actually articulate what the issue is. And then they are played. But then in all the interviews, that's where they just talk all their.

[Ben]

That's their love language, you know? But it's also good because it's giving Kyle more ammunition. Ammunition later when she's like, I came to you vulnerable, and you just kept questioning me over and over again. What is this, a cult?

[Ronnie]

So Kyle's like, honestly, I said a lot of things, and, like, I'm upset. I, like, I apologize for saying off. And Garcelle's like, And also, shame on you. And then they show that. That when she's sitting in the door, standing in the doorway, be like. And shame on you guys.

[Dorit]

First of these questions.

[Ronnie]

Shame on you. We're all too old. We do this. Shame on you.

[Ben]

It's like, well, you know, like, I mean, I'm explaining. I don't have to go through a list. It's like. But I'm just apologize. If you're apologizing, I'm just.

[Ronnie]

Okay, how about this? I apologize for everything. Everything I said, everything's in the apology. Everything on this certain. Okay, on last Thursday, everything that happened on that day, whatever it was, I apologize. Every single thing that happened, blanket apology.

[Ben]

Well, call me a case of Benjamin Button, because I'm curious.

[Ronnie]

Wow. Erica's like, sudden. Leave her alone. That's why I struggle with Sutton. What were they like when their husbands walked up? I mean, my God, come on, guys. Do you really think that Sutton's track. That she was fucking missed together while she was going through a divorce? No. Do you think Garcelle. I mean, the woman. The woman wrote a letter to caa.

[Erica]

Do you think she was acting her best, putting her best foot forward? And, you know, if you're really friends with someone during the worst time in their life, don't call them. Just ignore the pain like everybody else. I mean, come on.

[Ben]

But also, Erica, they were giving you such shit when you were going through all this with your marriage. And you said that before, so, yeah, Carl deserves that because Kyle didn't get Kyle. Kyle's not missed together, but she didn't let anybody else not be missed together either, so she deserves it. And Kyle's like, well, I've never behaved like that, and that is not somebody I want to be. Well, except for last year in Aspen when I screamed at Dorit and had a temper tantrum because she said something nice about Kathy. Or, you know, about that time I hit Brandy's crutches and called her a slut. I was like, can we just keep showing Kyle Hodges, please?

[Ronnie]

Bad behavior for, like, the past 15 years? Yeah, that's just, like, not who I am. It's just, like, not somebody that I'm proud to be. So, like, I wish I'd been calm, cool, collected. And you know what? Like, you guys are, like, actually hurting my feelings right now. And, like, I know I had no bad intentions with this text, and I just feel like. I just feel like I was being accused at that moment. Yeah, now she's a victim again.

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly. It's everybody else's fault. So she's like, yeah, I mean, I was overwhelmed. Like, I had no friends, you know, except for the ones that kept following me out, trying to be my friend, and sounds like. Well, I will say this. You know, we were very surprised at your reaction. And I woke up in the morning, and I could just think, why?

[Erica]

Why, why, why go?

[Ben]

And, you know, we've all had these. I'm sorry. She's like, we've all had those moments, you know? And Sutton's like, well, you know, it just was a lot of reaction. And I. I thought to myself, I'm just disappointed in Kyle, you know, that she's leaving this group. It's like, well, we've all had those moments, Sutton, right? And she's like, well, yeah, but you yell at me for doing it. And everyone's like, I can't believe Sutton would say that to Kyle. No, it's true. She. She yells at everybody else, and then she does the same thing.

[Ronnie]

You know, I guess my wish would be for you to not walk away again. God, it feels good to do this to you instead of you doing it to me. And Kyle's like, I removed myself because, like, I honestly felt like it wasn't good for my mental health. Menti b if they're saying it to be honest. And, like, I think now, like, moving forward, we've got to, like, figure out a different way to work through things so it doesn't feel like that.

[Ben]

Well, I just want to say, my little meatball, I support you through anything you're going through in your life, and I'll always be. Thank you, Garcelle. I was talking to the actual meatball. Were you saying something?

[Ronnie]

My takeaway from this dinner is Kyle wants to smooth things over, and she knew me, Erica, and Sutton would be easier to smooth things over with in a smaller group than if she had Dorita Bowes or anyone else there. To which I say, no, no.

[Ben]

So she's like, well, I think Kyle's afraid that this is going to be brought up at Garcelle's beach house, and she wants to know that she has allies. But I'll tell you this. Erica might be a minion, but Garcelle and Sutton are not minions.

[Ronnie]

Ooh, that's going to be a sticking point at the reunion, because Erica is not going to like being called a minion. I'm not a minion. I think for my own self, I pat my own puss.

[Erica]

How. How did I get demoted from being despicable me to a goddamn minion? I'd actually prefer the last two seasons. Least he was a lead.

[Ronnie]

So something's like, well, I listen. I have been a judge and the jury and every goes and the execut. They all, like, laugh. They laugh as if that was, like, such a brilliant joke when that was clearly where Sutton has been. Like, when you say you're a judge and jury, Executioner's next.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's a natural progression. Okay, so let's go to oxnard, California at 12:00pm oh, my God, this is so great. Is this CGI? There's a beach house. It's crazy. Yeah, and it's, you know, gorgeous. So she's getting ready for the ladies to come over, and she has a lady there doing flowers and parties and getting everything ready and starting with that li martini. And she's like, well, I hope the ladies are ready to let their hair down, have some fun and say, whoa, cuz this is going to be fun. There may or may not be some twerking involved.

[Ronnie]

She also calls out for someone named Glenda. And I thought that was funny. I just like the to think that Glenda the good witch was or whatever her name is, is there in the house. So then, you know, Kyle's at her house and she's like talking to her housekeeper and everything. And I guess the women are like gathering at Kyle's house and then they're going to go to, to Garcelle. So Jennifer Tilly's there first, like, Kyle, how are you?

[Dorit]

She's like, you know what? Like, I'm ready for a day at the beach, son. Fun. I'm so excited. I was looking at all sorts of funny memes about the beach and I cannot wait to do all the fun activities today.

[Ben]

Which someone pulls up, she goes, oh, someone's here.

[Dorit]

It's supposed, oh, look, it's Bosie. Someone's here.

[Ronnie]

So Kyle's like, oh my God, look at those fun earrings. Oh my God, look, here I am. I'm a plain baked potato with no butter and salt. That's such a strange place to, to go with that. Like, cuz Kyle's like dressed down and Bose comes in all glamorous and she's like, oh my God, I'm such a baked potato with butter and salt. I was like, kyle, have you eaten yet today?

[Ben]

Yeah. So Bose is like, well, this is the first time I'm seeing Kyle since she stormed out of my house in a fuzzy robe, fuzzy slippers and a Birkin. I'd expect some kind of an apology, but no, here we are. So now everybody's arriving and they're like.

[Erica]

Oh my God, you look so amazing. You look so great. You look so. Oh, hello, Ms. Erica Jane. You Ms. Stassi. We're like the Spice Girls. I'm paprika, you're Adobo. I don't know any other spices. I'm so sorry.

[Dorit]

Wow, Herbes de Provence over there. She looks so beautiful. She's like a very beautiful herbes de Provence. Don't you all agree?

[Ronnie]

So then Dorit comes over and she's.

[Dorit]

Like, oh, Bose, I love your loungewear.

[Ronnie]

And she's like, oh, thank you. I feel like I'm comfortable. Wow. This is, this is sort of your thing now is to diss people about their comfortable clothes as soon as you arrive to an event. I didn't think you were going to do it to me so quickly, but that's fine.

[Ben]

Well guys, please gather round.

[Erica]

I have some very disheartening news today.

[Ben]

Jagger came in and little Jigo, he.

[Erica]

Told me, mommy, are you and daddy divorced?

[Ben]

And I said, coin?

[Ronnie]

No.

[Ben]

It broke me hard. How could you think that? And then we see a screenshot of a very, very long winded. Because it's Dorit Instagram post. Like, sometimes in life, you're married to a man that looks like a sack of wet flour. Sometimes that man turns into beautiful bread, and sometimes he's just a soggy mess. I'm leaving Piquet in his stupid face.

[Dorit]

Sometimes that sack of flour meets a bag of Pringles, puts it on its hand and says, here's my sponsor. And the sponsor says, we're getting divorced. So here we are.

[Ben]

Have you ever dripped water on one of your white vitamins and just watched it bloat?

[Erica]

That's pk.

[Ben]

I'm leaving him. Stupid.

[Ronnie]

Erica says, well, I know a Dorit Trout or. Hardest to protect those children, you know, I mean, she.

[Dorit]

She protected them so hard.

[Ronnie]

Like, for instance, when she wrote a giant paragraph on social media about what happened.

[Ben]

Yeah. Although I think that she's really going out of her way to protect those kids. It's the Internet. You think they don't know how to use the Internet? Come on, now. Your daughter's pure wedding, like, 30 times in a row. You think she don't watch it on YouTube?

[Ronnie]

Come on.

[Ben]

The Internet. The Internet is the college for the children of today.

[Ronnie]

But, like, I'm being snarky, but, like, I think that they had to write that because it was starting to come out into news or something like that. They.

[Ben]

She also has to tell her kids what's going on. I mean, if that's coming out in the news, you don't write about it on Instagram before you tell your damn kids. I mean, have PK sponsor do it. He's not busy. Fuck. Get the can of Pringles over there, sit the kids down and be like, listen here. PK is not going to be with Mummy no more.

[Erica]

Mummy. The Pringles are talking to me.

[Ben]

Go with it. Just go with it.

[Dorit]

So I said, you know, sometimes in marriages, when you're married for a long time, you can have your ups and.

[Ronnie]

Your downs and your GS, and sometimes.

[Dorit]

You need a little time apart. And he said, but you and daddy are always gonna be friends, right? You're always gonna be best friends. And I said, oh, well, I certainly hope so.

[Ronnie]

Jagger and Jennifer's like, oh, that breaks my heart.

[Dorit]

You know, that's really terrible. What that should. You know, I remember one time when I had to leave Annabelle, and she was like, please don't leave me in this house. I said, annabelle, it will only be for five days. And then I remembered that she's just a doll.

[Ben]

Well, speaking of best friends, I hate to interrupt. I'm so sorry, but speaking of Best friends. I did get a note from Garcelle, and she wants to stay to be, like, positive and fun. So maybe we can stop crying about husbands and get in the car, because we've got a long road, okay? So let's just back away from Dorit. Back away from the crazy person. Okay? Like, damn.

[Ronnie]

Because it was, like, a serious scene. It was like the music was serious. Dorit was like, obviously, like, hurting. The women were all concerned. And it's like, all right, everyone. Well, that 101 freeway isn't gonna get much emptier than it is right now, so we better get on the road.

[Ben]

Okay, let's look at the bright side. At least you weren't robbed at gunpoint this time. Am I right? Okay, get in the car. Get in the car.

[Ronnie]

It was so rude of sudden. But, like, I have a theory, and I think it ties into that gunpoint thing, which they. By the way, they show this, like, the gunpoint thing again because they're like, sun's not good with timing. I think that, like, what's kind of funny for me with Sutton is that I think when certain things happen that, like, hue too closely to her life experiences and her own trauma, she does like, the thing in the movies where someone's like, all right, we're not going.

[Ben]

To talk about that.

[Ronnie]

We're gonna do something else now. So I think they just talk about, like, the divorce. Like, the divorce stuff. And don't forget, like, with the gun, you know, her. What happened with her father. Like, when these things come up, she's like. She, like. She just, like, shuts down. Is like, I cannot talk about this. Hi, we are going on the road. And, like, it shouldn't be funny because it is her coping mechanism to trauma in her life. But to me, I just think it's funny because it's just like. Like every movie I've seen on an airplane that started like, Ashley Judd, it's like, okay, Ashley Judd. Where she's like, all right, we are not going to talk about that. We are a family and we are going to move forward.

[Ben]

It's every movie with Ashley Judd. You know, I can see that. I think that also, though, Dorit just talks too much and they're sick of it. Every time. If you think about it, every scene, Dorit, I would say 90 of the scenes that Dorit has walked into, she's gone. Let me tell you what's going on with uncooked chicken breast, America married. You know, it's like, oh, for Christ's sake.

[Ronnie]

And also, like sudden. Sudden also knows we've got like a two hour drive. Well, we've got like a 90 minute drive, but if we wait too much longer, it's gonna be a two hour drive. We have plenty of time in the sprinter van to discuss this.

[Ben]

Save the monologue for the sprinter van. You know, we need a book on tape in there. So they go and they're all pissed at Sutton now because she's so rude. And yeah, like you said, we see this montage of Sutton just being completely. Well, I guess we're not gonna talk about robbery now. I have a dishonor that's in jail in Paris.

[Ronnie]

I mean, this is really one of the harshest lines ever with Sutton Ghost. Well, I've been putting out fires all day too, but I wasn't held at gunpoint. Sorry. Can you believe she said that on camera?

[Ben]

Still can't believe it. Every time they show it, I'm like, oh. Because in my mind I try and smooth it over because I like generally like setting, but oof, yeah, it's bad every time.

[Ronnie]

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[Jennifer Tilly]

Welcome to the offensive line, you guys. On this podcast, we're going to make some picks, talk some shit, and hopefully make you some money in the process. I'm your host, Annie Yeager. So here's how this show's going to work. Okay? We're going to run through the weekly slate of NFL and college football matchups, breaking them down into very serious categories. Like, no, no offense. No offense, Travis Kelce, but you gotta step up your game. If Pat Mahomes is saying the Chiefs need to have more fun this year, we're also handing out a series of awards and making picks for the top storylines surrounding the world of football. Awards like the He May have a Point award for the wide receiver that's most justifiably bitter. Is it Brandon Aiyuk T. Higgins or Devonta Adams? Plus, on Thursdays, we're doing an exclusive bonus episode on Wondry where I share my fantasy football picks ahead of Thursday Night Football and the weekend's matchups. Your fantasy league is as good as locked in. Follow the offensive line on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can access bonus episodes and listen ad free right now by joining Wondery.

[Ben]

So they go to Garcelle's Oxnard beach house and she's just sitting there living her best life with her lychee martini. And they go in, they love it and it's beautiful and they're all complimenting it and all that good ST stuff. And Kyle's like, I'm so impressed and so excited for Garcel. She worked her ass off for the oh, how did the bird get here? How did it get here?

[Ronnie]

All right, everyone. I have loungewear. I've tried to do things that I thought would be chic, like loungewear. I was like, oh, this is very sweet. Even though I kind of just did this with my party last week. That's mine. So Garcelle's like, all Right. I have these. I have some comfy loungewears that I want all the girls to try on so they can relax and not worry if they're wearing Gucci lv, Chanel. You know how it goes.

[Ben]

Ross for everybody. Welcome to Oxnard.

[Ronnie]

Well, we know one thing they're definitely not wearing. Kyle buys. Kyle buys a hottie. What was it called?

[Ben]

Kyle by Shahida.

[Ronnie]

Shahida.

[Ben]

Right. So I think it is funny you just mentioned this, but I think it's so funny that they keep trying to redo each other's party, because we had the first one that was like a spa day. Then the. That didn't end well. So then Bose tried to do another spa day. She's like, this is how you do one in pajamas with masseuses. And now Garcelle's like, no, this is how you do it in pajamas by a beach. It's like the whole season they're just gonna try and one up each other.

[Ronnie]

In a different county. Garcelle's literally in a different county. Like, this is really stretching the term Beverly Hills. So Dorit's like, well, I did not.

[Dorit]

Spend all this time and effort curating this very cute outfit.

[Ronnie]

Only be told to change its pajama pajamas. So they are. They change into the pajamas. And Jennifer's like, oh, this.

[Dorit]

This is, like, very me. I really like this. Oh, by the way, I got you a little gift.

[Ronnie]

And they're like, what is this? It's Dolce and Gabbana.

[Dorit]

It's a toaster. Yes. It matches your outfit. I thought it would be great. You could make toast here in your beach house.

[Ronnie]

Wow. God.

[Ben]

Do you have one of these?

[Erica]

She's like, I do. I do. America goes, oh, my God, Why am I clapping? Why? God, this is amazing.

[Ronnie]

Erica's taken back to when she was, like, 23 and, like, earning by appearing in, like, infomercials as the audience for, like, a. For, like, a dehydrator.

[Erica]

Erica.

[Ben]

Erica's just like, God, I expect her.

[Erica]

To grow up with anything at this point. Listen, the girl's got good shit. She just does.

[Ronnie]

It's kind of amazing. We see a montage of Jennifer being.

[Dorit]

Like, I got you something. It's a boat. Here's something. It's a boat. It's a Louis Vuitton boat.

[Ronnie]

It's like her bag that's shaped like a boat, but it's Louis Vuitton.

[Erica]

That bitch has good shit.

[Ben]

All right, we're gonna change. We're gonna go to the beach, and then we're gonna have A really nice dinner. So they woo. And now they, you know, do that. They go to the beach. They get. But first they put on their beach clothes, and Sutton comes down, and she's pulled her waist all the way up to her rib cage, and they're like, why? Why, Sutton?

[Ronnie]

Come on, man. So they. Yeah, they are gonna go outside. Well, first they have to get in golf carts. And so it's the classic housewives and golf carts thing. It's so funn. So they drive around, and they finally make it to the beach, where it is freezing cold and the wind is, like, whipping around their faces, and they all look miserable. And they have some lychee. A lot of lychee martinis and everything. And then. Then I love this. So they're standing at the little bar set up, and Jennifer is there, and she is with Sutton and Dorit, and there's a party planner, Nicole. They're like, oh, excuse me.

[Dorit]

Will you just take a picture of us real quickly? There's the three of us standing here, like, well, maybe back up just a little smidge. Maybe a little smidge.

[Ronnie]

And she's like, oh, you want the beach in the background?

[Dorit]

Oh, I think that we may be backlit, but of like, let's. Let's give it a try. Oh, no, I think that we are back lit. Okay, let's go back to my original.

[Ronnie]

Suggestion, which was the original. That was the best one of all.

[Dorit]

But, like, I. I humored you for a moment.

[Erica]

Okay.

[Dorit]

That'd be great if we could do another photo. Okay, thank you so much.

[Ronnie]

She's, like, very politely, like, this is how to do it. She's like the most polite micromanager of all time.

[Ben]

Yeah. So then they get their. Their picture took, and then Erica's chilling with Bose, and it's like, oh, so.

[Erica]

Beautiful right here in the sun, isn't it?

[Dorit]

God.

[Erica]

God damn it. Did you bring the sun? Even the sun's pretty here. Did you bring this, son? God damn, she's rich.

[Ben]

So Dorit's like, can I have a Belvedere with club soda? Not too strong. I'm a new person now, so I won't take. Arc is out. I'll just let you do it and squeeze my own lemons because I want people to understand the struggle that I'm going through these days. Oh, look at me squeeze. Oh, for all the pain I'm going through with Pecane, his sponsor. Oh, for all the pain I'm going through with Jiggy and his questions. Oh, for all the pain my arms are Going through from holding up the walls.

[Ronnie]

And then there's this weird moment where she's squeezing and then kai goes, twa. She goes, what? We can twerk. She goes, we can twerk.

[Dorit]

Talk. Should we walk on the beach?

[Ronnie]

I was like, what's happening? What are they saying?

[Ben]

So they go have a little talk. And meanwhile, bose is like, garcelle, you weren't at kyle's house. Dorit, the poor thing, she said her kid asked her if they were getting divorced. Dun dun dun. And garcelle's like, oh, it is sad, isn't it? No, actually, my heart just kind of burped. Sorry. I had really spicy wings for breakfast. What were you saying about stupid doritos?

[Ronnie]

I remember my son jax, putting him to bed and you know, because we switch off every Mondays and he goes, well, when I'm with you, I miss dad, and when I'm with dad, I miss you. And no one prepares you for that. No one at all. Anyway, I turned off the light. I was like, get the to sleep. And that was it.

[Ben]

Well, how do you feel when you're with the nanny? Because that's who you're going to be spending the next week with.

[Ronnie]

Goodbye.

[Ben]

So then we go to dorit and kyle talking, and dorit's like, would you like me to talk to? Would you like to start? Okay, listen, first and fore. I'll start. Since you didn't answer, I'll start and I'll finish. Now, first and foremost, did you consider us good friends? Kyle, did you? Did you?

[Ronnie]

Yes.

[Ben]

Oh. Do you want to salvage our friendship?

[Ronnie]

I do. I like. Do you?

[Ben]

Oh, very much, kyle, because your friendship has always meant so much to me. I want to silver jit. And when I wrote to you and, you know, I said, I've never repeated. When you said, I've never repeated anything, you said you knew. I knew that you were making him feel like that he can talk to you and you're not going to repeat it, and that's okay.

[Ronnie]

Kyle, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, you can't say that. I know that you were like, I'm sending you this text saying, like, I'm a trustworthy person. I don't repeat things, and I don't like, you know, me to read. And in this group, all these years, anything anyone has confided in me, I have never repeated. And that was just like, my way of saying, I'm a safe space if you need. And I know that he's not going to reach out to me because if he needed he's got, like, a million friends. But I just wanted to say I'm a safe space if you want to talk shit about your wife. But also, like, we're only going to talk about memes, but if you want to talk shit about your wife, you can. But also, like, Dorit, we were only doing memes. But, like, if you wanted to talk shit, I'm just saying it's a safe space for it. So honestly, I don't see what I did that was wrong.

[Ben]

And I actually like that Dorit laid it down. She's just like, here's the thing. When two people are separated, you should choose the side of the girl. Are you on my side or on you? You on his side? Because if you do get information from him, and I'm glad you called yourself a safe space, because when you get information from him, you better tell me. It's like, oh, okay.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Most people are like, why are you supporting PK now? She's like, you better, Spy woman.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Most people don't lay it out like, you better be on my side. Most people are like, no, look, you're. No. You can be friends with whoever you want to be with. I'm not going to tell you who you should or should not be friends with, but if you're friends with that.

[Dorit]

Person, just means I'm gonna have to.

[Ronnie]

Take a step back from religion. She's like, no, his side or my side.

[Ben]

And if you're on his side and tell me what shit he's talking. And I love that. I found that very refreshing, actually.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Because that's what I think everyone's thinking in these situations. And Kyle's like, Like, I obviously, in writing that, like, I wasn't thinking about choosing sides. Like, you know that. Like, you know that state of your relationship. Like, I didn't know anything. And he's never said anything bad about you. And if he had, you wouldn't know because it's in the vault. And I would certainly never talk badly about you and to PK in 1 million years. Except for, you know, probably all the. I talked about you. Whatever. I hope you know that.

[Ben]

It's called hipaa. So sorry. Well, here's what I want from Kyle. I want Coil to be a Goyle's Coil in the seats. I want a Goyle and a Goyle. Goyles for girls.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I just really didn't think it was gonna be, like, difficult to maintain a friendship with between both Dorian and PK because, like, anytime Dorit and I have gone through a hard time PK and I always maintained our friendship, but, like, if that's what she wants, if she wants to make a crazy, like, ridiculous requests like that, like, I'm fine with that. Like, it's just her being needy and, like, I'm just, like, level headed. I just will tend to her because, like, I'm, you know, even though I'm going through a lot, you know, she's obviously taking much worse. I think she's having, like, a little bit of a mentib, you know? So I just want to move forward and put all this negative negativity behind us.

[Ben]

Yeah. And, you know, Kyle is still making it about her and making Dorit seem crazy for even wanting this, but she'll do it. She'll go with it. But I was actually proud of Kyle because she didn't have a fit. She stayed calm, and she actually listened to her or at least pretended to listen to her friend and then agreed. I was like, wow, that's lovely. So are we putting this to. It's almost like someone told them, okay, guys, it's mid season. We cannot have a fight about the. About memes every week. So let's wrap it up. And it's like, the bird's more interesting at this point.

[Ronnie]

And I think someone told Kyle, by the way, Kyle, they're saying that you're not a girl's girl. So she's like, you know, I feel really bad about PK because he actually has been, like, a really good friend. But I still understand, and I do believe that women have to stick together, especially when they're trying to route another woman out of the group.

[Erica]

I see fried chicken.

[Ben]

So the other ladies are getting chicken served to them, and someone's like, I want a breast. And the chef goes, I'm hoping this is a breast. And Garceau goes, aren't you the chef? I mean, if you don't know, who does?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, seriously.

[Ben]

So this one looks like a cooked PK fresh out of the shower. I'll take it.

[Ronnie]

So they're all freezing, and they're like, hey, where's Kyle and Erica? I mean, Kyle and Dorit. They're like, okay. So they. They come to the table, and Erica's like, all right, well, I'm tired of their drama. I'm tired of their marital drama. I'm tired of their drama with each other. I hope they work it out, because quite honestly, I'm tired of this. I am tired. I want to get them to get along because we need peace. I'm like, Erica, tired of. Tired of Them. We've been watching your. Your situation for, like, five years now.

[Ben]

Yeah, but it was, like, a hundred times more compelling. I have to give it to Erica. That was. That was. I wouldn't say fun. That's cold to call it fun, but it was. So then. Now they're gonna play some games. Guys, what's the most embarrassing thing you can ask the waiter on a date? When are you off?

[Ronnie]

Erica's like, meet me out back. Okay, question. Next question. What length would you go for for $1 million? I'm like, didn't Erica already answer that question? It's called season. Her first, like, three or four seasons on this show.

[Ben]

Is Erica still in a lawsuit for those earrings? I mean, she'd go a long way. The girl was with a man tripping over his own balls in the hallway. Okay, don't make Erica answer that. She's already answered it on television for a decade.

[Ronnie]

So. Yeah, she's like, well, a million dollars isn't a lot of money these days, so the answer is probably not very far.

[Ben]

Remember that movie with Demi Moore, Indecent Proposal?

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Erica]

Yeah.

[Ben]

He let her husband sleep with him for a million dollars. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, I can't.

[Erica]

And Jennifer Tilly just goes, well, they were younger.

[Ronnie]

Bose is. Bose is like, okay, let's pause there. Let's adjust for inflation. What if it were $20 million? Oh, yeah, hell. Well, we signed up. Okay, now we're talking. Give me a craps table. I want to roll around on that.

[Ben]

Garcelle's like, well, I've done things for less.

[Erica]

That's what I'm saying, honey.

[Ben]

So then now they're all cracking up, and Bo is like, wait, you'd sleep with someone else's husband for money? Like, what if it's your man, though?

[Erica]

And she goes, well, hey, we want the money. I don't give a. About these people.

[Ben]

Give me the money.

[Ronnie]

Dorit's. Dorit's. Well, Bose is like, well, let's pretend you were in love.

[Dorit]

And Dorit's like, eric has never been in love.

[Ronnie]

And then we. Everyone's like, what? And we see a flashback to Erica being like, I don't listen. Erica just found out what empathy was last season. So love is. We were still working towards love. Yeah.

[Ben]

Let's just take some baby steps, you know? So we see the flashback to her.

[Erica]

Saying, I want one good love affair, ladies. Just one. I just want one of those things you see in the movies, you know, where you just. Just can't be a part one minute You're a hooker the next minute, yet some lady has to give you clothes in a Beverly Hills shop. I love that movie.

[Ronnie]

Bose is like, I love, love. Somewhere in the back of my mind there's a little voice that's like, be careful, be careful, be careful. But I keep shoving Rose puddles in her and tell her, shut up. Just let me be in love. And here's a robe. Enjoy your massage voice.

[Ben]

I love both. She just goes, I fell in love every other day.

[Ronnie]

So then Jennifer Tilly's saying, oh, I love.

[Dorit]

I love my man. Yes, I do love him quite a bit.

[Ronnie]

And she talks about her ex and.

[Dorit]

She'S like, I feel like Sam was so instrumental in my life in so many ways. I feel like his energy is still with me, specifically in the creepy doll that I have in my foyer every day. Honestly, I'm like, thank you, Sam. And like, you know, when I, when I get to use the valet packing instead of driving down the street and looking for some free parking, when I buy a Gucci outfit, I'm like, thank you, Sam, because he gave me a very good divorce settlement.

[Ben]

It sounds like she's going to be so sweet and sentimental.

[Erica]

She's like, every day I feel his energy. Oh, Sam, thank you for not making me park my car on the street anymore. Thank you for making me rich.

[Ronnie]

It's like, wow.

[Dorit]

Thank you for making me impossibly rich.

[Ronnie]

I would never thought that's.

[Ben]

What a beautiful sentiment. So now they get these lanterns ready, which I think you, I think, think, don't you put candles in those? This whole thing, I mean, just considering what night.

[Ronnie]

Also, like, don't do a lantern at 3:00pm Yeah.

[Ben]

I mean, I was getting scared watching this just because it's been pretty harrowing in the news. And I'm like, please don't set fires and then send them floating over the hills. That would be great.

[Ronnie]

I know that would be a great idea. But luckily the wind is very intense and those lanterns just like flop around like jellyfish on the beach. And they, they blow away and they go, they go chase after them and it's like, funny.

[Ben]

And it is really funny. I really enjoyed this scene. It was like a fun and game scene that I really enjoyed. It was, this episode was really nice. I think they've got a group, good group here. They all have fun together. I think Bose is blending in really nicely.

[Ronnie]

Bose is excellent. I love it.

[Ben]

Oh, and this is where they run into the dead bird. Oh, my God, there's a dead bird. Finally. I got, finally that bird got sick of flying into Kyle's head and it just finally died, you know?

[Ronnie]

And then they all just run away. Just like that on the beach.

[Ben]

They run away screaming.

[Ronnie]

Sun goes, no more dead animals. There's more. There's more.

[Ben]

So. Wow, that was a good episode. I loved it. Just heartwarming. Huge crowd fan.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she's great.

[Ben]

My life has changed, you guys.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, it was. It was magnificent.

[Ben]

All right, everybody, thanks so much for being here. Fun times. We'll have the Real Housewives of New York recap probably tomorrow. I would guess at some point or maybe later today. Who knows, really? Watch us on Watch what happens live on Thursday night after Southern charm will be the bartenders there. And get your tickets for the Golden Crappies at watch what crapmans.com Streaming tickets are available now for Saturday night. And if you can't watch Saturday night, they'll still be, you can still watch it for like two weeks or whatever. So join us. That's a huge party and it's a huge party in person. It's especially a huge party online. I mean, people go crazy in that chat room. It's one of the, one of my favorite times of the year. So please come join us for that. And then we'll see you in Salt Lake City, in Denver next week. And for more cities and show dates, go to watch what crappens.com we'll talk to you soon.

[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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