#2732 Southern Hospitality S03E07: Grace Land

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #2732 Southern Hospitality S03E07: Grace Land

Release Date: February 18, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode #2732 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive deep into the drama and antics of Southern Hospitality Season 3, Episode 7, titled "Grace Land." This episode centers around the character Grace Lilly and the ensuing chaos her actions bring to the group dynamic.

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Main Plot Overview

Grace Lilly’s Grand Entrance and the Initial Fallout

The episode kicks off with Grace Lilly failing to appear on time for her scheduled performance at a pool party in Las Vegas. Hosts Ben and Ronnie highlight this as a pivotal moment:

• Ronnie [04:54]: "The big cliffhanger going into the episode is Will Grace Lily get to the pool on time to sing her iconic lyrics."

Grace’s tardiness leads to frustration among the cast, particularly Maddie Reese and Molly, who express their disappointment and disbelief:

• Maddie [06:04]: "I was very aware of the risk that I took when I gave Grace Lilly this chance to further her musical career, but I did it anyway."

Grace eventually shows up, but her lack of preparation and poor performance exacerbate tensions:

• Grace Lilly [08:45]: "I didn't know I had to be here at a certain time. I just thought it was kind of a come when you come."

Group Dynamics and Escalating Tensions

As the episode progresses, Ben and Ronnie dissect the interactions between various characters as they navigate the fallout from Grace's mishap. The tension peaks during a group dinner where unresolved issues come to the forefront:

• Maddie [23:04]: "Sometimes being on the defense is never really the answer."

Emmy and Will grapple with rumors about their relationship, further complicating the group’s cohesion:

• Emmy [35:27]: "If anything, it's my fault because I talk about how much fun I have going to the bathroom."

Hosts’ Commentary and Humor

Ben and Ronnie interject their trademark humor throughout the recap, often mimicking or exaggerating lines from the show to highlight the absurdity of the situations:

• Ben [05:15]: "Damn it, can I do that again? There's just too many words in this song."
• Ronnie [09:03]: "You wait for that, right?"

They also mock the characters’ dramatic flair and the show's reliance on conflict during group activities:

• Ben [12:00]: "And then the club promoter's like, hey, guys, great job. That was, like, the best we've ever seen in Vegas."

Turning Points and Resolutions

A significant turning point occurs during a faux wedding ceremony orchestrated by Joe, aiming to foster commitment among the cast members. This scene is both comedic and revealing of the characters' true feelings:

• Joe [51:13]: "I want to marry her in real life someday."

However, the hosts critique the unnecessary dramatics, suggesting that the show could benefit from focusing more on professional environments rather than getaway trips:

• Ronnie [52:46]: "When they're tasked with having responsibility, that's when they go haywire."

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, Ben and Ronnie reflect on the overall season's progression, noting that while the cast brings fresh dynamics, the continuous focus on certain storylines, like Will and Emmy's relationship issues, may lead to viewer fatigue:

• Ben [53:02]: "They need some stuff to happen on this show."

Despite the ongoing drama, the hosts express their continued enjoyment of the show, appreciating the new additions and the unpredictable nature of the cast:

• Ronnie [58:08]: "Lake has really come on to be a wonderful addition to this season."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ronnie [04:54]: "The big cliffhanger going into the episode is Will Grace Lily get to the pool on time to sing her iconic lyrics."
• Maddie [06:04]: "I was very aware of the risk that I took when I gave Grace Lilly this chance to further her musical career, but I did it anyway."
• Grace Lilly [08:45]: "I didn't know I had to be here at a certain time. I just thought it was kind of a come when you come."
• Ben [05:15]: "Damn it, can I do that again? There's just too many words in this song."
• Joe [51:13]: "I want to marry her in real life someday."

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Final Reflections

Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam successfully navigate the tumultuous waters of Southern Hospitality, providing listeners with a comprehensive and entertaining breakdown of Episode 7. Their blend of humor, insightful commentary, and detailed recap ensures that both seasoned fans and newcomers alike gain a thorough understanding of the episode's key moments and underlying dynamics.

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

He's a good guy. You're a good guy, Carlos. You're a good guy, Carlos. That was a really fun one. We talked all about Potomac and other stuff. So join us over there. Here we are with Southern hospitality Not Pretty in Sin City Season 3 Episode.

[Ronnie Karam]

7 We Are Here and the big the big cliffhanger going into the episode is Will Grace Lily get to the pool on time to sing her iconic lyrics. La la la la la la la.

[Ben Mandelker]

Damn it, can I do that again? There's just too many words in this song.

[Ronnie Karam]

So DJ Maddie Reese is at the Day club. She's on the ones and the twos. Crossfading, pressing play Crossfading, pressing play Crossfading, pressing play all the stuff to really show who she is and be herself out there on the stage.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everything's happening and Grace Lilly's not there. And I don't know, everybody's starting to get offended, but nobody's JJ. Of course. TJ's like, it's pretty slap in the face. It's like, pretty slap in the face. She doesn't show. That's actually the name of one of my wieners.

[Ronnie Karam]

Slap in the face. This would be like showing up at Sir Wieners and asking for a burger. It's just like a slap in the face.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Maddie's like, I was very aware of the risk that I took when I gave Grace Lilly this chance to further her musical career, but I did it anyway. Oh, my God. How are you? How is your musical career ever gonna recover from some rando not showing up to sing La la la la in sync with the album at this pool party in Vegas? How are you gonna recover, Sondheim?

[Ronnie Karam]

Now Maddie understands what it was like when Quincy Jones rolled the dice on Michael Jackson.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, this is just like when Parvati didn't. Pavarotti didn't show up to the Grammys and Aretha Franklin had to sing a song instead.

[Ronnie Karam]

Or Lynn. Or like when Parvati showed up to the traders and decided to roll the dice on some headbands. Sometimes as an artist, you just have to take risks and they will pay off.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yep. So then we. Maddy's freaking out. Well, not freaking out, but everybody else is. So now the rest of the cast is heading over to the DJ table and they're like, yeah, Maddie. And Joe's like, that's my girlfriend over there. That's my girlfriend, everybody. That's my girlfriend.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then she's like. We hear like, maddy be like, where's Grace? Where's Grace? If Grace doesn't start popping it in the next five minutes, I'm gonna start popping off. Classic marbles.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, he got that from Luanne. Luann was like, get over here. You either start popping off or I'm popping you, you fucker. Get over here. Wasting my time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Alright, kid, let me. Let me show you the way the world works. When they ask you how you feel about something, you use a word in two different ways. Here you go. If they don't start popping it, I'm gonna pop off. Now you try. If. If Nana doesn't make me chicken parm, I'M gonna have spaghetti. That's wrong, but. Oh, whatever. Fuck me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Anyway, I'm gonna parm Nana.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's it.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's creepy, but it works.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hit it works in its own way.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Molly's like, grace is an idiot. You can't even show up on time for your best friend set. I mean, what are you even doing in this life?

[Ronnie Karam]

And then we see Grace is just doing her makeup. So Molly says, if she has a package of capip showing up at our front door, it wasn't me. Wow. So be Molly, great defender of Grace Lilly.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then back to the club. Grace Lilly finally gets there and she comes to the cast and she's like, come on, guys, come on. We need to get hyped up. Like, we're already hyped up. Grace Lilly. How are you an hour late? I didn't know I had to be here at a certain time. I just thought it was kind of a come when you come.

[Ronnie Karam]

I thought it was like I could show up whatever time of the day. They'll just start playing my song and I'll just sing. That's how it works, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, we told you soundcheck was at one. She's like, well, but I had sound at one.

[Ronnie Karam]

I checked the sound of my phone. It was on vibrate at 1pm Is that what you meant?

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, just so you're sorry to Molly. She's like, for what? I'm here.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know what? Some of the greatest performers aren't always on time, but we wait for them.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. You're not one of those. Okay, sorry. You're not one of those. I would barely wait on you. And I was a waiter for like 40 years.

[Ronnie Karam]

How could you say that? I gotta sing. La la la la la la la. I mean, you wait for that, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, oh my God, it's the next song already. And Maddie's like, you were late. Grace Lily, that is crazy. This is a record, okay? It is a record that will be played in a certain order.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, no, I didn't practice my La la la la la's. Are we sure it's La la La and not Lei Lay Lay? I'm so confused. God, are you sure? Going on right next.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, everybody, it's Grace Lily. Grace, right? Am I right? It's Grace Lily. So everybody cheers. And then the song poppin it starts playing it and starts playing. And Grace is just very badly lip syncing because of course this is all tracked, you know? I mean, you're not Going to sing live in a DJ set anyway, are you? I mean, I guess some people do, but not Grace Lily. No, thank God.

[Ronnie Karam]

I just keep on popping it like there's no stopping it. La la, la, la. And everyone is like, huh? And some people are like, this song is actually kind of catchy. But Grace Lily keeps on. She's up there. She's standing on top of the DJ booth, and she's, like, waving her arm around. She just kind of looks like a drunk girl that climbed up on top of there. Like you would never know. She's an actual performer on this track. And it turns out that they had turned off her microphone just in case, which is smart.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was very smart. But it's also, you know, I mean, she doesn't get enough credit because not only can she not sing, but she also can't move to the rhythm of the beat. Listen, bring your hula hoop. Where's your hula hoop? I mean, I just feel like her mom's at home. Like, I trained her so hard with that thing, and now she's just shitting it all down the toilet. For what? For what?

[Ronnie Karam]

Bring the hula hoop. What, you're gonna use all my bag of tricks? So Luann was the original hula hoop queen on Bravo. Let's never forget when she brought a hula hoop to Bethany's house in a noise parader herself.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hula hoop. Yep. No one will talk to me here. Well, watch me. Hula hoop.

[Ronnie Karam]

She literally did that. So Grace is doing this, and everyone's dancing, and everyone's, like, laughing at her and Grace. And Maddie is like, grace doesn't take anything seriously, so I can't trust her singing on a microphone. So it all ends this one song, and smoke comes out, etc. The audience.

[Ben Mandelker]

The audience just poops all over the dance floor. Like, damn it, when are we gonna learn about smoke machines on Bravo?

[Ronnie Karam]

I did really think about that. Wow. I'm so proud of Maddie. Like, I can't believe the way she pressed play on her laptop. It was just, like, so amazing.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then the club promoter's like, hey, guys, great job. That was, like, the best we've ever seen in Vegas. Like, seriously, we've never seen a better DJ in Vegas. I'm just like, oh, my God, dude, thanks so much for that. He's not complimenting you, Ms. Kardashian. Sit down, Kris.

[Ronnie Karam]

Also, what is this? This random guy, he's like, what is he? Every DJ that we've. That I've seen so many DJs start out here at the day club and, like, you were amazing. Like, they've all gone on to do great things, like Mitzi Leibowitz. She's over at the buffet now. She spins from 11am to 12. They love her. They love her when they bring out the shroom cocktail. Ugh. And you should see the guys playing over by the slots. I mean, they all started here. They all go through me now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Listen, if you ever need a bat mitzvah or bar mitzvah, okay? We're not picky. Mitzi. Mitzi Leibowitz is the way to go. She started here. Tell your 13 year old. Mitzi Leibovitz began here.

[Ronnie Karam]

Have you ever heard Evergreen remixed with a sick beat? That's Mitzi Leibovitz for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Have you ever heard Papa can you hear me remixed with. Stop. Stop. What was that? Get out of my dreams and into my car. Okay, then you haven't heard of Mitzi Bot.

[Ronnie Karam]

Have you ever heard of. You ever hear the way we were with a little in the middle of it? Got it. Sick. Crowd goes nuts.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then the cast is cheering for her and stuff, and Brad and Lake are making out. And Molly's like, wow. When Brad friend zoned Lake, it definitely got into her head. And now she's, like, trying to reel him in so she can friend zone him. That's a girl boss right there.

[Ronnie Karam]

A hundred. I was like, wow. When I saw that, I thought, girl boss. Hashtag girlboss. I was like, those are two just. Those are two drunk people and there's nothing more to it. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now they're back at the hotel and they're gonna have disco cowboy night. So they all have to go get their disco clothes, their disco stuff on. And Molly's gonna go take a titty pet. And in the presidential, Emmy and Will walk in with Mia. Emmy is like, oh, my God, Smells like sex in here, guys. And Will goes, huh? No, I'm a lawyer.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, smells like law school. So then Brad is. They're talking. Brad and the boys, Brad, tj. Yeah, they're all talking about the day and everything. And Brad's like. He's like, yeah, it was cool seeing Maddie up there. Yeah, she looked really happy. And they're just like, you know, just. It's back and forth, but it's basically ultimately leading up to Emmy and Will. And so Emmy's like. Like, my vibes were high. But, like, Maddie brought the energy, and it was just like, Grace is just, like, awful. She's so awful. And we just see Grace back There being like, I didn't realize it was so wrong. I mean, look, it's not like. Look, it's not like she was doing it all on her own. She didn't need me to be there on time.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Austin's telling her, wow, I was really shocked that that song was, like, so good. And she goes, well, you know, she has people to help her. It's not like she's doing it all on her own. Oh, okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's a bitter context.

[Ben Mandelker]

Unlike Whitney Houston, who just sat there her task cam and recorded every single song on her own. Excuse you, ma'am, have some respect.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, exactly. So they talk about this for a while, and they talk about how nice it was that Joe was supportive and everything like that. And they're saying how Joe's, like, obsessed with her and everything. And Michael's like, by the way, I noticed. I was like, this is, like, devastating for me. When I saw this, it was, like, shocking. But when we were at the pool, like, Emmy and Will shut off. And I was like, oh, my God. They're, like, shutting off right now. Like, what do I even do right now?

[Ben Mandelker]

And meanwhile, Brad is like, yeah, Joe's, like, really obsessed with maddy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Huh?

[Ben Mandelker]

And TJ's like, yeah, well, I think that Joe needs someone in his life that is constantly succeeding because he's looking to, like, move up. And that's her. Jesus. Are you a good friend at all ever? Is anybody on this show ever just a good friend to each other? These people are terrible, and I hope they last 20 seasons.

[Ronnie Karam]

I know TJ. TJ is, like, dissing Joe for upward mobility while he's actively calling in favors from all of his friends to help launch his wiener business.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's true. You didn't mind when Joe was taking off his shirt to slap himself with some ser. Wieners.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Michaels is saying how, like, Will and Emmy shut. Shut off at the. They were not, like, really hanging out with people. And we cut to Will and Emmy, and Will's, like, everyone's, like, not having fun with us. Do you know what? It wouldn't. You know what I mean? And they're like, yeah. And then we see that they were like, well, I guess it was a flashback. They just, like, sit down sadly in the middle of the day club to be like, no one wants to be with us.

[Ben Mandelker]

No one's paying attention to us. It's not about you get in the center and cheer. What the hell?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then they're talking with Mia about group dynamics, and Will's like, you Know, it's, like, really hard being here with these people. Cause, like, they've been nothing but horrible to me, so.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Mia just goes, well, you talk shit about your girlfriend. Mia's great in this scene. And he goes, no, I made a mistake, and I'm ashamed of it. Yeah, well, I want to see you say that tonight, and I want to see everyone's reaction. He's like, help me say that. I didn't talk shit. I just made a mistake.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, people need to know that you're a good boyfriend to Emmy, because right now, what's on the table is that you're not. Okay? And that is from a fifth place, Miss Whatever, so get it together. And he's like, it's not really my style, though. She's like, okay, well, if you need to suck up, then. And you need a bathroom to do it in, we'll all go to the bathroom. Okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. This guy's a real winner. Like, people are, like, coming for his girlfriend because of his actions, because he went into their business, talked shit about her, and now they're all like, we're not so sure about your boyfriend. And rather than, like, put himself in an uncomfortable situation and clear. You know, clear it all up and really, like, jump on the. Jump on the sword or whatever, he's like, I just. I don't know. It's not my style. I'm, like, really uncomfortable doing. I don't want to do that. It just feels crazy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. It's like, I don't want to give them that pleasure. Well, the whole point is that you're giving too many people pleasure in bathrooms. The least you could do is say sorry to the friends. Okay? And then I feel bad because he's stuck in this Amazon disco shirt because I bought the same one years ago to try on for some stupid. Probably for the crappies. And I was like, even I can't wear this. I mean, this is just terrible. It's made out of plastic, and then he wears it the whole time. So I felt kind of sorry for him, but then I remembered it was Will.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Mia says, will Culp does not have humility, and this is exactly what he needs at this very moment. It would fix so much for him. It would fix so much for Emmy, and we could be one big happy family again. I mean, the irony that this guy is named Will Culp, but he can't actually be culpable about anything is.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then people are getting ready for the disco party, and it's time. Lake needs somebody on Areola duty, guys. Her nipple showing, boss bitch. So then we go to Red Tail Restaurant, which is Will's, like, looking around for a communist to bang in the bathroom. He's, like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Literally telling a. Telling a red. And so then everyone's seated down and everything. And tj, like, turns to Grace the lady, and he's like, sal, why were you so late? I was like. She's like, I wasn't late. I didn't know time I was supposed to be there, so. You can't be late if you don't know what time you're supposed to be there. Duh.

[Ben Mandelker]

What do you mean? I don't know? Maddie knew when she needed to be there. She's like, well, I was there, though. So it's like you're saying I wasn't there, but I was there. So Joe's, like, an hour late. Like, we needed to warm up. Like, I needed to see your mouth go. And you didn't do it.

[Ronnie Karam]

So, like, if you. If you're not gonna pop in it, then we're not gonna watch Mary Poppins later, right? So Grace Lily's wrong.

[Ben Mandelker]

Try it again, young one.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, kid.

[Ben Mandelker]

The spirit of Luann's, like, wrong, grasshopper.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wax on, wax off my vagina. So Grace is like, listen, it was no disrespect. And Medica's. Yeah, but, like, you walked up as I was, like, playing your song, so it was kind of disrespectful. She goes, yeah, well, then that was perfect timing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Grace, do you know her? Set time. We need you to get ready for set time. And that's just how. That's how it is. And she's like, well, sometimes it's just not about y'all. And then we get a. Listen. You guys keep poking at her. She showed up. You can't yell at the woman for getting there on time. She did get there on time. She got there on time for her song. I'm on Team Grace Lily for this.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm not. I am not on Team Grace Lily for this. First of all, her saying, sometimes it's not about y'all. It's the reason why they're there. You are all there to see this set. There's a poster on the side of a rider truck driving up and down the Strip. Okay, that has Maddie's face on it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So the rider truck. Listen, it is $12.99 an hour to take this U Haul. I'm sorry. It's changed over to the Matty Reese. Listen, Maddie Reese is in town right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And also, honestly, just as like, a friend, Matt, like, you should just be there on time just to see Maddie press play on her. On her. On her laptop. Because this is a big deal for her, you know? Like, don't just show up when it's your song. Show up for your friend.

[Ben Mandelker]

She was putting on makeup. So I take it all back.

[Ronnie Karam]

I take it all back.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was hard. Have you seen. Have you seen those eyelashes? They're like £20. It did not. It didn happen overnight. That makeup. It took a very long time.

[Ronnie Karam]

She was like, in case we don't get our own private cabana, I'm gonna attach one to my eyelashes, and you guys can all assemble under it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, you know, they're all mad. They're all, like, pretend mad at her. Cause no one's shocked. You know what I mean? And so he's like, you're an athlete. Say sorry or something. And she's like, when you're a guest, you pop up as a guest. So that's what I did. Surprise. I'm a guest. It's me. La la la la la, la la.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, Maddie and I go back five or six years and her not communicate great and almost as good as me and Bob Marley do. So I don't know why Joe is involving himself in the situation. I mean, let the artists handle it. Joe, you're just a groupie.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, guess what? Maddie is a big deal. And if it's a big deal, Mary, it's a big deal. Our children, it's like, whoa, Joe.

[Ronnie Karam]

Joe. Whoa, Joe. So Mia's like, maddie, put your foot down. Come on. Have a scene. Do this. Fight, fight, fight. And Grace Lilly, meanwhile, is going off on Jo, and she's like, well, Maddy hasn't spoken to me about it, and you're speaking for her, so I think you should let her speak for herself.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Maddie goes. They're all looking at Maddy to have a fight. They're like, listen, we're in Vegas and literally nothing has happened, so let's do something. And so Maddy just goes, you showed up. And she goes, thank you. She goes, but, I mean, if you didn't, I wouldn't be surprised. And she's like, I wouldn't do that. I would never, ever do that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Amia's like, sometimes being on the defense is never really the answer. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Maddie. It was not intentional. And she goes, I don't think it was. And I appreciate you saying that. She's like, yeah, that's not right. It's like, oh, okay. I guess this is resolved.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So they're like, well, let's just make a cheers to pop in that. Okay. You can still be wavy. Okay. Didn't mean to come and attack you, Grass Lily. That was rough. I know. That was, like, a rough moment in your life. So I hope it's all good now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Mia's like, okay, everyone, shall we now go at will? I feel like. I think that's something that could bring us all together. Like, yeah, sure, let's go attack.

[Ben Mandelker]

Will they really. It was so funny. They're just, like, having so much fun in Vegas that they're forgetting that they have to shoot a show. They're like, okay, well, we need to fight. We haven't really earned our free hotel room. So, Will, you're up. And he's like, there's something I want to address at the table. Objection. Sustained. Thank you, your honor. That was all me. I've said things that were very critical of our relationship, you know, mine and Emmy's. And, you know, I have so much regret about that because, you know, Emmy and I discussed it ourselves, and we're working on it, and it's something I feel a lot of shame about. Mostly the her being too thin and anorexic and, like, full of herself. Like, that's really rough.

[Ronnie Karam]

Annoying.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sorry, did you say that?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And, like, in terms of, like, tj, Like, I just. I just want to say, tj, if you'll give me the opportunity, I would like to deflect this entire situation onto you. So thanks for being a shitty friend, tj. And he's like, wait, what did I do? I showed up on time for this dinner.

[Ben Mandelker]

The last person I attacked was Joe. And he didn't hear it, so I don't know why I'm in this. And then he's like, because you brought it up in front of everyone at the dinner table. Like, seriously. And Emily, Emmy just starts that hair pulling thing. Like, oh, no. Emmy, Emmy, stay calm. Emmy, stay calm. She's like, yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And we see two weeks ago, TJ viciously bringing it up at the table by saying, how's your talk?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it was Michaels who really did it. And she's like, me and Michaels. It was good. And he's like, I don't know, because, like, I feel like you kind of gave me the rubber around.

[Ronnie Karam]

Is that a new type of brew? Because I kind of have dibs on giving you coffees. It's like, no. So Emmy is like, I just don't you see the whole Flashback. And Emmy losing her mind and relax. So Emmy says, I hold TJ to a higher standard. And TJ was like, mine and Will's best friend. And best friends don't humiliate best friends. The way he humiliated me and Will, I'm like, have you met tj? This is, like, all he has to do. This is like his. This is his dream, is to be able to do this with you guys. Well, also, you picked the wrong best friend.

[Ben Mandelker]

We watched you doing this to your best friend or one of your best friends. What's her buns lo. Fucking l. Maddie. All last season. So you don't get off that easy. I mean, this was your whole storyline last season was coming for her relationship. And so it's your turn, so just enjoy it. You know, calm yourself. And TJ's like, wow. I mean, Will was the one who said all these things about his girlfriend, not me. I mean, I have. But I'm not dating her, so, like, who cares? So back to the restaurant. Emmy is, like, doing the hair thing again, and Will's like, revisiting us doesn't help us. So I have feelings hurt that are. I have feelings that are hurt, and I want to express that. Like, come on, Dan.

[Ronnie Karam]

The real victim, Will Culp. Well, we find out later why he is truly a victim here, guys. But he says, I don't like this, and I feel like it'd be, like, more beneficial to have maybe some, like, real healing that we can enact. Maybe down the line when I'm, like, fucking a girl in the bathroom somewhere. I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, like, if you really want to heal me, maybe you could blow me like you Blue Joe. I mean, I'm sorry, did I say that out loud? Have we already talked about that? Like, that was last week. It was a very meaningful scene. And so Leek's like. Well, Leek Lake. What is she? Her name is Leek. She's like a delicious, mild onion. Lake is like, wait, a leek's not an onion, is it?

[Ronnie Karam]

A leek is an allium.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's like an anise flavored.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's in the family.

[Ben Mandelker]

So embarrassing.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's an onion. It's. It's like a. It's like the. It's like a.

[Ben Mandelker]

It is, yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wonderful onion friend.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, cousin.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's a cool cousin of an onion.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

God love. Lake has really come on to be a wonderful addition to this season. The first few episodes, I was sort of like, okay, they just gave us Lake, but we don't understand who she is. And over the past, like, four or five, she's just been great. And I just love her just being exhausted, be like, okay, well, can we talk about the cheating? And so everyone's like. And Austin is, like, all upset because he's trying to, you know, cover for his girlfriend. So he's like, well, this girl that just recently graduated law school goes, oh, don't you know Emmy? And I said, yeah. And she says, oh, well, I go to law school with Will, and he cheats on her all the time. And then Will and Emmy, like, Emmy's like, oh, my God. Oh, my. She has that look on her face. And Will's like, has the oh, look on his face. And he's like, I. I don't care about the rumors. And they're like, come on, say the whole thing, Austin. There's more to it.

[Ben Mandelker]

His little brother went on Reddit and was like, I'm Will's little brother. Ama ask me anything. And so people were like, is this true? Is all this stuff true? And he's like, no, I love my brother. He's an amazing brother. And Emmy, hold on. Emmy. What? What do you want me? Emmy loves Emmy, has great hair, and she conditions it regularly. They're like, wait a minute. Are Will and Emmy there? He's like, yeah, just to make sure this doesn't go off the rails. Well, what the hell kind of ama is that? Yeah, what's Will giving you? Weirdo. He's so cute, though.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

No offense, little brother. Love you. I believe in you. So Austin Will's like, I'm not concerned about rumors. So Joe is like, hey, say the whole thing. You did not say the whole thing, Austin, say the whole thing or Matty Reese is not going to work with you again. And so Lake's like, spit it out, man. We don't have all day. Old man. Log lifter. And he's like, well, she also says that you fucked a girl in a bathroom. Don.

[Ronnie Karam]

Don Don's like, no, I did not. Okay. It was more of like a guest's room with, like a futon.

[Ben Mandelker]

Will.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, no, we didn't have any sex at all. What are you talking about?

[Ben Mandelker]

So Austin's like, yeah, apparently they hooked up in a bathroom. But it got worse because then they said that he'd actually been fucking a bunch of different girls. And it means like, huh? What's her name? What's her name? What is it then? What's your name then? It doesn't count if you don't tell me your name. I mean, if you don't tell me your name.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. You know, I heard this from my girlfriend, and she heard it from somebody who goes to law school with Will. And apparently they were privy to this information. Privy is a legal term, and I learned it from the law school person. But I don't want to tell anybody that because I'm trying to protect my girl. Even though that ship has kind of sailed because I've been. I mentioned her like 10 times in my explanation of how I learned.

[Ben Mandelker]

Girl wants you to mention it, and she wants you to bring her on TV to confront them about it. That producers just won't let her on. Who are you kidding? So then Emmy's like, where's the evidence? Where's the proof? What the fuck? There's nothing we can do. There's nothing we can do. There's something. Everywhere I turn, they're there, they're there. I can't even go to a bathroom anymore. I just piss behind a bus because I can't things anywhere. Jesus.

[Ronnie Karam]

At which point she takes the wine bottle and cracks over the side of the table and pulls the pointy part out at everyone. Like, everyone, stay back. You guys are gonna stay in your seats and we're gonna go back up to our rooms and we're gonna talk and we're gonna pack our bags. But if you. I swear to God, if one of you guys follows us, you're gonna get this glass right in your chest. I swear to fucking God. And you're not gonna get me this time.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Will's like, no one's gonna believe me anyway, babe. And Grace Lilly's like, I believe you. I believe you and I respect you. And as soon as you need to walk away, just walk away. Do what Jesus did when Bob Mar. Wait a minute.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, they had a lot of fun up there. So Lake goes, it's just a fucking pity party. Boring.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Emmy's like, so Emmy is like, the birds. The birds won't stop coming. They won't stop going, oh, my God. He doesn't cheat on me. Like, I'm psychotic. Like, I'm psychotic. What am I, nuts? Like, I know everything about him. It's just not true. It's not true, you guys.

[Ronnie Karam]

So's like, I can't take a break. I can't do this. And Michael's like, okay, give me your hand and squeeze. Squeeze. I'm trying to relax you. Squeeze.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, I literally in my pants right now. Why did you squeeze that hard?

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God. She, like squeezed so hard. I was kind of like, what's going on? Do you like, have feelings for me?

[Ben Mandelker]

I just love how.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love Michael's. Sorry. I just love the way Michael's tries to calm down Emmy because he always winds up just yelling at her, relax.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because we see that she just does this like every five minutes, you know? So he's like, I think that Emmy has a five year plan for her and Will. So like, anytime Will gets called out, she sees like another year added to that plan. It's just like so sad. And then we see clips of Emmy being like. And then by 2027, I see ourselves with a baby and married in house. A house. A house with a roof. There's pipes coming out of the roof. This little pipe's going down the side in case it rains. And it's going to go down the roof and it's going to collect in a pipe. It's going to water a garden. A garden that our children play with. Cheat on me.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's going to slowly segue into somewhere that's green. I like that. Michael's called it a glitch in the system. That's 100% the best way to describe it because that's she is. She becomes a glitch. You know, she's like, no, no Will can possibly cheat. So we come back to the restaurant and Austin, he's like, guys, I don't want this to be a fucking conversation. It's a Friday night. Let's have fun. I'm like, no, shut up. Make it a conversation. We've been waiting.

[Ben Mandelker]

We also started the conversation.

[Ronnie Karam]

Weirdo.

[Ben Mandelker]

So everybody's like, that's a song. Comfortable. And Will's like, I'm outta here. So they leave, and then it's all quiet for a minute and then everybody's looking at each other. And Austin goes, is this grass fed?

[Ronnie Karam]

Shut up, Austin. Not. Lol. So now it's like they're all gonna go to, like, they go to their hotel rooms and everything, and everyone's like looking rough in bed. And you know, it's the next day now. People are gonna wait, are waking up, and they're gonna go, like, separate and go out to, like, different, like, breakfasts and stuff or go to the pool and we're gonna have kind of like a like, let's talk about last night kind of thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they just were all wasted last night. That's the. That of that. So then we go to Grace Lilly and Austin's, and Grace is like, hey, I got more coffee from the room. And he goes, you got more coffee? She goes, yeah, I guess. Where'd you get more coffee? And she's like, the hotel. I called him. He's like, you're fucking amazing, Grace Lily.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love Austin learning about the amenities of a hotel that if you. If you call down to the front desk, they'll bring you something. It's like, whoa. And then Mia, Brad and TJ are talking, and tj, late at night, got a wiener tattoo on his wrist. I mean, I appreciate the commitment to your fledgling brand, but, like, maybe wait till you let's. Let's get some sales under. Under your belt before you start tattooing things onto your wrists.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And I like that. One of them's like, wow, now you can see your wiener while you're playing with your wiener. All right, so then. Then we're talking about tj. We're talking about Will and the girlfriend again. It's so boring. So then we go. Just because it's like every single day, they just need to catch this guy. I need Mia to just get a hidden camera and find his ass and find who he's cheating with and just.

[Ronnie Karam]

Isn't John quijones around? Can we get like a hidden camera set up and like a. What would you do? Come on. We could make this happen really, really easily.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So then we see the after dinner blow up with Will and Emmy, and they're just like. It's just like with us. No one believes us. She's like, yeah. And he's like, because everyone believes I would cheat, and I would never cheat. She's like, yeah. He's like, we're a power couple.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, I also love that Emmy goes, oh, my God. I'm, like, losing my voice. Like, how am I even losing my voice? And they cut to her being like, everyone is trying to entrap us. And then you see her late at night smoking cigarettes, like, nervous, like, yeah, I don't know how I lost my voice.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they're in bed, and Will has a legal pad because he's a lawyer. And she's like, yeah, last night was insane. It was just, like, nuts. Like, everyone's coming for me all the time. He's like, I just don't know what to say anymore. It's like, this group is like a pack of hyenas, and we're the rotten carcass that they just want to devour. Our relationship is great. Okay, I'm going to breakfast with the boys.

[Ronnie Karam]

Bye, Lisa.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's like.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, that reminds me of the time I fucked a carcass in the bathroom once. So we go to Viva restaurant, which is funny. Viva, because these guys all look dead. And they're in a place called Viva. And they all sit down, and Will joins this table. It's the guys. It's Brad, tj, Joe, and Will.

[Ben Mandelker]

Someone throws a leg at their head.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Will's like, I'm just exhausted. It just feels like everyone's against our relationship. Only because I went to our place of business and said, this relationship sucks. I hate being in it. Like, why is everyone against this relationship? I mean, especially for Austin to say that, like, part of my anger is at you guys because I felt abandoned a little bit, but you just didn't, like, step in. And that's, like, not what I expected out of friendship. Like, no one's got our backs. Everyone's critical of us.

[Ben Mandelker]

And teacher's like, but you know why everyone thought that, right? Like, are we in Looney Tunes? Like, hello? So then we go to the poolside, and Maddie and Emmy are talking sh. About. Wait. Oh, well, Mia and Maddy are talking shit. Like, can you believe last night? Oh, my God. I can't believe it either. And then Emmy walks up, and it's like, oh, hey. Hey, Emmy. Hey.

[Ronnie Karam]

I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

So do you feel better about addressing the group? Cause, like, I feel like I'd be so embarrassed about what was even talked about. And I would, like, look at my boyfriend. I'd be like, what the fuck, Will?

[Ronnie Karam]

Emmy's like, no, absolutely not. It's not his fault. If anything, it's my fault because I talk about how much fun I have going to the bathroom. And so Will, of course, goes to the bathrooms more than usual. And my. The enthusiasm is infectious. So he's often like, hey, I want to bring someone into the bathroom so you can see how cool the bathroom is. And oftentimes it is girls, because it is a feminine place. Bathrooms are. So he's going to bring women into the bathroom, and they will be there for a long time experiencing the joy. So this is not Will's fault. If anything, it's my fault. Or whoever invented bathrooms. Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Maddie's like, oh, okay. Well, did you even ask Will if it's true? She's like, it's not true. It's not. It's not true. So then back to the restaurant. TJ's like. Like, the biggest part is, like, the accusations. Like, is this true? And Will's like, no. Okay, here's what happened. Austin's girlfriend. Wait. Austin's girlfriend's brother goes to law school. And then he bullied me at orientation. Because that's how lawyers are. They're like, look, guys, it's a smarter lawyer than us. Get him. And they got me in the parking lot, and they beat me. And then they made it up that I was having sex with somebody. What are you talking about?

[Ronnie Karam]

And then I had to go to law school detention. And they were like, bet you can't survive this. And then there was a girl, and she had, like, a lot of lice, and she had, like, dandruff, and she was, like, shaking it onto her law school thing. And I was like, she's weird. But in the end, we all kind of bonded.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, our parents all suck at the end of the day. That's the point. Thank you, John Hughes. And he's like, yeah, he's bullying me. Like, he's going into law school orientation. He's like, what's up? Bravo, bro. And so, like, I'm being Bravo bullied, and they're otherizing me. That's what this is. I wasn't, like, gay, and I wasn't a poc, so they just had to make something up. So now they call me Bravo boy. And it's just like, I'm like, you. This guy, the smartest thing he said here was to me. It's like they're just reiterating the rumor from last year. Like, they saw me on tv. So they're like, he cheated on his girlfriend in a bathroom. And now people are still saying that. Like, it's a current rumor. If he had said that, I think that people would have been like, oh, that makes sense. Unless some thirsty. And also, if he hadn't talked about his girlfriend at the beginning of the season.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, let's not forget about that part. But this whole thing, like, I went to law school orientation, and I was bullied. Like. Like, it is some 80s movie. Like, it's 3:00 high or something like that. Yeah, back. I'm gonna beat you up. I mean, this is. Of all the excuses you could have given was that, like, Biff was coming at you, you know, and your time machine took you back to 1955, and someone started the rumor about you. I mean, come on.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, so then we go back to Emmy, and Emmy is doing the same thing. She. Guys, someone. Someone just has a vendetta against Will. I mean, that's just all it is, you know? Like, you guys, law school is different than regular school. They're, like, really competitive. They're really mean. They object to things a lot. And Austin's girlfriend's brother, he goes to law school with Will, and, like, he's calling him Bravo boy, and he's trying to make him look bad. It's bullying, you guys. Like, people want to tear each other down in law school. Law school. People are mean.

[Ronnie Karam]

The. The way that they are describing law school, like, it is like Cobra Kai has taken it over, just. And the media goes, yeah, I saw Legally Blonde. I get it. And they're like, ha ha ha ha. She goes, no, it's a different animal. Law school, it's mean. You get shoved into so many lockers there. You have to be so careful.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So everybody's like, bullshit. That's. That's some bullshit. So Mia's like, oh, wait, so you're telling me this young man in law school, besides, like, studying all day, is making up rumors about Will and Emmy? I mean, come on. So nobody believes this. And then we go back to TJ, and TJ's like, so how do you feel about you and me right now, then? And Will's like, well, I think we can work through it because we've been friends for a really long time. I just want to keep moving forth. That's how lawyers say it. I want to move forth.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, let's move forth with that, you know? So then we go to tj. Well, the producer is like, so you seem skeptical about Will trying to smooth things over. He's like, yeah, because it definitely feels like Will is Just, like, telling us what we want to hear. It seems fake. It just doesn't feel sincere. And, like, this is someone that I just. I just don't know anymore. I guess I'll just have to sell my hot dogs as a solo act now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, this hot dog is going to be called who New hot dog. Who's who Dis. So then now they're getting ready to go to dinner. This show is really running on fumes right now. They're gonna need something to happen because this is, like, episode seven, and it's still about the stupid relationship. So now they go to dinner, and Emmy's like, oh, my God. Like, I'm so excited to go to dinner. Cause the rumors were totally shut down. Like, everybody knows now. Law schools are mean places. So hopefully I can just enjoy dinner.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, Will is good with the guys. I've. I've called the police. They're going to shut down Molly Ringwald's click at the law school, and we're all going to be safe. So at the present presidential suite, Maddie and Will are helping Emmy. And just, like, there's some dress that, like, Emmy cannot get into. And then everyone winds up going to a place called Carver State for dinner. And they all get some free espresso martinis and everything. And they get all this food, and now everything. The vibe is, like, much better now. They're all getting along, getting along nicely.

[Ben Mandelker]

They have oysters, and they're like, grace, Lilly, don't have those because they're an aphrodisiac. Remember how horny you were last night? You were trying to make out with Brad. And then we cut to the night before, and she's jumping on Brad, and she goes, put in my pussy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And she says. She's like, oh, damn. I would have liked to have gotten a tattoo last night. And they're like, what would you have gotten? I would have gotten wisdom, because my shaman says I have a lot of wisdom. Molly, you're going to that shaman. You don't have a lot of wisdom.

[Ben Mandelker]

Molly goes, yeah, that man is scamming her. Wisdom is chasing her. But Grace Lily runs fast.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then they're like. They're like, guys, remember when we did this? And so we see them, some of them driving Ferraris. I remember when we did that. And we see something on the helicopter ride. And Grace Lily goes, hey, when you were in the helicopter, did you see the mountain with the three presidents? Is it three or is it four? And they're like, that's like Mount Rushmore. It's like, not even in this state. Grace literally really thought Mount Rushmore was outside of Vegas.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yikes. So then Joe is like, oh, this is an amazing trip. Like T.J. like, I feel like I'm getting your trust back. Love you for that. And now they're gonna play a game. Michaels brings it up. Cause he's the noob. So he's like, okay, let's play a Bravo game. Go around the table and say who you trust the least.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's very Real Housewives of Miami. So Grace Lilly's like, Dr. Nicole. Dr. Nicole's like, wait, I'm not even on this show? No. Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm a very trustworthy person. I really am. So the person I trust least is not me, because I trust myself the most. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love that. That's her answer. Her answer is like, I'm the most trustworthy.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know what? I don't trust that fourth president that was on Mount Rushmore, because, honestly, I thought there was only three, so a fourth one must have snuck on there.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Molly goes, grace, I would never trust you. And she goes, well, free to say that they so rude. And Michael's is like, whoa, this turned like crazy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Who would have thought when you ask a play a game where everyone has to say who they trust the least, that would start take a sour turn? So Grace Lily goes, so you heard what happened? Wait, wait, what happened? I didn't hear something. Okay. So Emmy goes. She's like, well, Grace Ois. And all of a sudden, we have this whole storyline that just falls into our lapse.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Maddie's like, okay. Last year, Oisin was roommates with me and my best friend Eva, and Oisin and Eva were like, a thing. And Grace is not allowed in my house right now because she slept with Oisin. And it's a huge deal because Eva's my best friend, and Grace is my best friend. And this has caused turmoil in my girl clock.

[Ronnie Karam]

How is this not part of the. How's Eva not a cast member this season? And, oh, my goodness. I'd forgotten about Eva when. When they. When they started mentioning a new person. Oh, I was like. Like, please let it be the Clores Leachman girl. But it wasn't.

[Ben Mandelker]

And how are you gonna ocean and then get mad that somebody else O. That's what ocean is. You can't get mad at somebody for riding the same lime scooter that you rented on your iPhone 10 minutes ago. That's what they're there for Grace Lily.

[Ronnie Karam]

Pretty much says that in a few minutes. So she's like, I didn't deny. I didn't lie about it. And she's like, you're. And she's like, maddie, you're so fake. No, she's had your back with those girls. Stop being mean to Maddie. I love her. She had my kids. So they start screaming, and Grace Lilly is like, wow, you guys really hyper analyze my life. I love it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we see a flashback of Matty Jo and the housemates talking about Grace hooking up with Oisin and her supposedly denying it. And then Jo's like, yeah, Grace is unreliable, causes mayhem in our lives, and I can't enable this anymore. I don't see Maddie gaining anything from having a relationship with Grace. Okay, Jo, you know, you seem like a nice boyfriend and everything, but you need back down. You can't be bodyguarding Maddie. You're not her age.

[Ronnie Karam]

Maddie's choice. Yeah, it's Maddie's choice who she. What. What chaotic and toxic people she wants in her life. Okay, so. And then I think, somewhere in here, Grace Lily is like, whatever. O Sheen is for the streets. So Joe's like, guys, guys, guys. We have, like, it's. It's our one final night, and I have a surprise for everyone. Countess Luanda subs. No Joe. Oh, well, the other surprise. Oh, yeah. Okay, so we're gonna go someplace. Everyone get in your cars. They get in cars, and everyone's like, where are we going? What's it gonna be? Is there gonna be a future? Is it gonna be exciting? Is it gonna be scary? And they're all getting, like, very nervous, but they just wind up at a wedding chapel instead.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So this is the part we've all seen in the preview, and we're like, oh, my God. Did they secretly get married? No, they didn't. He was just like, I want a commitment ceremony. And I thought it would be.

[Ronnie Karam]

Why?

[Ben Mandelker]

So they go to the Elvis chapel and pretend to have a wedding, and Grace Lily starts crying like it's a real wedding. She's like.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, even though we're in a fight, I still have her back. Always and forever.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they do this Elvis thing, and I guess it's cute, but, yeah, they need some stuff to happen on this show.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, I'm happy with the amount of stuff that's happening. I think it's been, like, really funny. But, yeah, this. This wedding thing was cute, but, like, unnecessary. I don't need scenes like this, so. But Joe's like, I want to marry her in real life someday. And so she's.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's not gonna happen. She's leaving you. But I will say it's interesting that on this show. Most shows kind of rely on the trip to make things pop. And this show doesn't need the trip. Like, this show, I was like, no, they need to be at work. I don't want to watch these people, like, dancing. Like, I need to see them at work getting mad about random things at work. There's something magical about this show when they're at work. I don't know what it is.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think it's like these shows. I mean, like, Vanderpump rules. They had some, like, noteworthy trips, but, like, the magic happened in LA mostly. Like, you look at some of the housewives, you're like, okay, get them on an island somewhere so they can come alive. But like these shows, it's like when they're tasked with having responsibility, that's when they go haywire.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so much of this cast is new, I think that they don't have enough mess with each other to be fighting about on trips, you know, and you need that. So maybe like in a year or two. But I love. I still love this show. But, yeah, I just need to see them. I don't like seeing them lean. I like to see them clean.

[Ronnie Karam]

Get back to cleaning. That's a perfect way to say it. Well, thanks, everyone, for being here and listening. Appreciate it so much. Be sure to check us out on reality with the King, Carlos King on wherever you get your podcast and go to watch crappies.com to get your tickets to see us live later in March.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, see you later, everybody. Bye. Bye.

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At 24, I lost my narrative. Or rather, it was stolen from me. And the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped. By false narratives, callous jokes, and politics. I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks both recognizable and unrecognizable names about the way that people have navigated romance roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaiming and feel like they filled their tank up, they connected with the people that I'm talking to, and leave with maybe some nuggets that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad free right now by joining Wondery in the Wondery app or on Apple podcast. In the 1980s, a swept the country hey Mike, I really like this white Zinfandel. Well good, good. Now put it down. We're gonna try another one. White Zin became America's top selling wine. But most don't know that this sweet drink has a sour history. What began in 1986 with counterfeit bottles, a big fraud, a multi million dollar fraud sent investigators chasing one of the most powerful families in the business, the Licciardis. But the closer the Feds got to them, the more dangerous things became. It's a story of deceit.

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