#2743 RHOBH S1413 Part Two: Caviar Taste on a Doritos Budget

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens #2743 - RHOBH S1413 Part Two: Caviar Taste on a Doritos Budget

Release Date: February 26, 2025

Introduction

In Episode #2743 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into Part Two of their two-part recap of "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" Season 14, Episode 13, titled "Caviar Taste on a Doritos Budget." This episode dissects the glamorous yet tumultuous events that unfolded during a high-stakes party, highlighting interpersonal conflicts, dramatic confrontations, and the ever-present quest for luxury and status among the cast members.

Main Events

1. Party Preparations and Early Interactions ([03:04] - [10:01])

   The episode kicks off with reflections on memorable group vacations from previous Housewives seasons, setting the stage for the current party dynamics. Ben and Ronnie introduce the central event—a lavish gathering at Caviar Caspia—where tensions begin to simmer.

   • Ben Mandelker ([03:04]): “Some of our favorite Housewives episodes are when the cast goes on group vacations... It goes on and on and on.”

   The hosts transition into the party scene, detailing the opulent setup with vodka-lined tables and meticulously arranged place cards, juxtaposed with the less sophisticated handwriting that hints at underlying chaos.

2. Conflict Between Sutton and Dorit ([10:15] - [32:15])

   The heart of the episode revolves around escalating tensions between Sutton and Dorit. A flashback reveals Sutton's past efforts to be supportive, only for Dorit to perceive insincerity and manipulation.

   • Ronnie Karam ([04:23]): “...your friendship was based on manipulation and bullying.”

   The confrontation reaches its peak when Sutton accuses Dorit of perpetuating a false image and playing the victim in situations she orchestrates. Dorit responds defensively, leading to a heated exchange that underscores the volatility of their relationship.

   • Garcelle Beauvais as Dorit ([04:33]): “I'm sick of people acting, playing the victim card.”

   • Ronnie Karam ([05:14]): “What Sutton needs is to stop playing the victim in situations she created and then manipulate people.”

   The hosts highlight Sutton's frustration with Dorit's inconsistent behavior and perceived hypocrisy, adding their own humorous takes on the drama.

3. Caviar Caspia Party Dynamics ([32:15] - [49:17])

   As the party progresses, the atmosphere remains charged. The arrival of Jennifer Tilly and Garcelle Beauvais adds layers to the social interactions, with discussions ranging from fashion to personal grievances.

   A pivotal moment occurs when Sutton attempts to address her strained relationship with Dorit, leading to a public airing of grievances that captivates the attendees.

   • Sutton ([28:44]): “I came to your house, to your Fourth of July party to celebrate this country. And I came calm, and I came in peace. And I waited, and as soon as Kyle got you, came down, and then you took my handbag.”

   This confrontation not only heightens the drama but also exposes deeper issues related to trust and loyalty within the group. The hosts dissect these interactions, offering insightful commentary on the motivations and behaviors of the cast members.

   Additionally, the episode touches on a controversial kiss photo involving Kyle and Mauricio, sparking debates about authenticity and media manipulation.

   • Ben Mandelker ([46:30]): “And the fact that they were smooching in Greece in front of Avis... it wasn't accidental.”

   • Ronnie Karam ([47:27]): “There’s no way that anybody cares this much about Kyle and Mauricio. I'm sorry, there's just us.”

Hosts' Commentary and Insights

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie provide a blend of humor, sarcasm, and analytical insights into the Housewives' dynamics.

• Ben Mandelker ([27:21]): “My favorite Sutton is totally unhinged. It is just the best. And, like, everything sets her off.”

• Ronnie Karam ([49:17]): “I'm enjoying the ride. I'm not terribly offended by either one of them at this point. I'm just enjoying the ride.”

Their banter not only entertains but also offers listeners a nuanced perspective on the unfolding drama, making complex interactions more accessible and relatable.

Conclusion and Teasers

As the episode wraps up, Ben and Ronnie reflect on the progression of the show, noting a shift towards more open and direct expressions among cast members.

• Ben Mandelker ([49:28]): “The show has moved a bit out of its polite rut... they're just outwardly just really saying what's on their mind.”

Looking ahead, the hosts tease the upcoming episode focused on "Summer House," setting the stage for new conflicts between Kyle and Paige. They encourage listeners to support the podcast through Patreon for exclusive content and join the community for deeper engagement.

• Ronnie Karam ([49:35]): “We'll be back tomorrow with some summer house which is also going to be wild because it's Kyle versus Paige.”

Notable Quotes

• Ben Mandelker ([03:04]): “Some of our favorite Housewives episodes are when the cast goes on group vacations... It goes on and on and on.”

• Garcelle Beauvais as Dorit ([04:33]): “I'm sick of people acting, playing the victim card.”

• Sutton ([28:44]): “I came to your house, to your Fourth of July party to celebrate this country. And I came calm, and I came in peace... you took my handbag.”

• Ronnie Karam ([46:30]): “There’s no way that anybody cares this much about Kyle and Mauricio. I'm sorry, there's just us.”

Final Thoughts

Episode #2743 of Watch What Crappens offers a comprehensive and entertaining deep dive into the latest drama of "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills." Through detailed recaps, insightful commentary, and engaging humor, Ben and Ronnie guide listeners through the complex social dynamics and personal conflicts that define the show. Whether you're a seasoned fan or new to the Housewives universe, this episode provides valuable context and fresh perspectives on the ever-evolving cast.

Transcript

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Garcelle Beauvais]

That happens?

[Ben Mandelker]

Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we go to Bozen Dorit, riding together on the way to the party, and they're like, oh, my God, girl, I can't believe it. I have so much to tell you. Me too. I haven't seen you since my fourth of July party. Okay, well, I'm not gonna talk today, am I? Four eggs.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly. So then we see a flashback to the party and everything, and. And so then Kathy, we see also flashback to one week earlier, and Kathy was asking Kyle about the trip to Augusta, and Kyle says it was emotional. And Bose says, look, I think there was an opportunity just to say, hey, look, we need you in this sisterhood. We need you in this circle. And if you don't join, we're gonna recruit a baby doctor. So get in.

[Ronnie Karam]

If we don't have a pinata to hit, how are the kids supposed to eat candy after it's broken? Get in here. But also, she's saying, you know, I wish we had known that she had all this trauma that she was reliving on this tr. Because maybe that would have made that day different, which it wouldn't have. But that's a nice thought on her part. And so she's like, what Sutton needs is to stop playing the victim in situations she created and then manipulate people and bully them into believing that she's the innocent one. I'm tired of it. I've had it. She's a quote fitness. Have I used that one already?

[Garcelle Beauvais]

I'm sick of people acting, playing the victim card. Now, Bose, you do. You will cover this ride, right? Because I'm $10,000 down after someone stole my purse at a Big Lots.

[Ronnie Karam]

So, Therese, I'm sorry, did I say Target before? I meant Walmart.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

I met a CVS Greens.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Dorit's like I always say, Sutton's.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Behavior is very inconsistent. And I've been around that really nice, sweet, fun, compassionate person.

[Ben Mandelker]

And we see a flashback to two months earlier when Sutton was trying to be nice, and she's like, if you're getting divorced, I will be there with you to laugh in your. I mean, laugh with you at something to be a sisterhood, you know, nice friend. And then we go back to the present, and she's like, but I've also.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Been around her evil twin sister.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like, they don't even have to show a flashback for that because we all know what that's like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, look, I mean, I think she got along with the re or with Sutton before, because when you're trying to get along with someone and make a new friend, you should know what they're interested in and, you know, talk to them about their hobbies and stuff. And she found it with Sutton because Sutton loves divorce. She's like, you're getting a divorce. I'm gonna be there every step of the way. I'm gonna get that man by the balls. I'm gonna squeeze him until money starts falling out of his ears. And she's like, I've never seen the side of you. It's my hobby.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Unfortunately, when you. When you squeeze PK by the balls, the only thing that comes out is kewpie mayo.

[Ben Mandelker]

So.

[Ronnie Karam]

One time I did get it to give me a Keurig style mocha. Delicious.

[Ben Mandelker]

The worst part is when he started saying.

[Ronnie Karam]

It was almost filling my cup. And then it went and I realized I had that water.

[Ben Mandelker]

He kept calling himself Nespique. So Dorit is like, I think that.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Today is a good day for us to definitely at least hold her accountable. Accountable.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, yes, I, I. Yes to talk about it. I agree with that.

[Ronnie Karam]

So I love both started this. Like, you know what we should do? She had some trauma, and I think at this point, we need to reach out to Sutton and say, sutton, we still love you. You're part of the circle and Doritos. You mean yell at her? Good. I mean, let's do it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sure.

[Ronnie Karam]

Let's confront the why not?

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll have a good story to tell it keely later, so.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, at least somebody paid attention to me. They're having an egg party.

[Ben Mandelker]

A lot of egg houses at this place. So we're at Caviar Caspia. I've never heard that term. Of course, me listen. What a surprise. Ben Mandelker doesn't know a term that has anything to do with reproduction. Because I'm like, vagina scary. I'm a gay man, but I haven't heard that term egg house before. I guess. Is that like a follicle or something like that? You know what? I'm just.

[Ronnie Karam]

Were you asked what the fuck you want to talk about? You know, the history of war in America? Like what?

[Ben Mandelker]

The egg house. Vagina. This was not the right thing to look up, okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

Why'd you put vagina in there? Just put egg house.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay? Egg house. Uterus. No, because then you wind up getting a bunch of breakfast places. Oh, uterus. How a fertilized egg finds its home in a uterus. I think I'm just, you know, what time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Egg House Hunters. So we go over to Caviar Caspia, and there's a long table, which, thank God they planned this out because it's. It's incredible. And there's vodka bottles lined up, so they are expecting sudden, which is nice. And there's some very bad handwriting on some place cards. And Jennifer Tilly's like, I've got placemats, everybody. There's placemats that cards, okay? And they're written terribly well.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Look, I've got a caftan. It's hard to walk in a caftan.

[Ben Mandelker]

Second trip in a week. Second. Two weeks in a row. People tripping. Okay.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Hello. Everything is great. The first time I went to Caviar Caspia was during Fashion Week. And it's the place to go in in Paris. And, like, when you go there, like, you see all the supermodels and the designers and the famous people and the food is phenomenal. And I mean, caviar and everything. And like always, when you go to Caviar Caspia, you're hoping someone else is to pick up the bill.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, lady, you've got Simpsons money. You're picking up the bill for everyone there. Okay? You're picking up my bill when I go out with you, if I ever get to live out that dream.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's talking to her other friends who aren't on the show, and she's.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Like, you know, Anna Marie, this is my friend Whitney. This is my friend Diana. Diana is the most fun girl. One time she took off her top and jumped into a swimming pool, sucked off a horse and grabbed the edge of a helicopter blade and spun around and around until she was flinching. Dolphin to Santa Barbara. Fun girl.

[Ben Mandelker]

Anne Marie is like, wow. So then Erica arrives and she's like.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

I like this Jennifer Tilly. I think she's smart. I think she's fun. She has incredible style.

[Ben Mandelker]

Couture.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Jewels. Couture Captain.

[Jennifer Tilly]

I'm into it.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

I give a.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she's trans.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Something I do not know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Garcelle arrives next, and Jennifer's like.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Oh, my God, I'm more people. Here we have the same catan. Oh, you're gorgeous in blue. Blue we both did the blue eyeliner.

[Jennifer Tilly]

I love that.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

I love what you've done there.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then Faye Resnick shows up. I mean, wow. Wow. This is a big episode.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, big one. Morally corrupt Faye Resnick with Kathy Hilton. I'm wearing a caftan made out of lemons because I've been to Capras. Anybody love their lemons there?

[Ben Mandelker]

Lots of hugs going around, and everyone's talking about, oh, I'm so glad it's not as hot as it was at the. At July 4th and everything. And then we go over to Sutton, Kyle, and Jen, Kyle's personal assistant slash friend, riding in Jennifer Tilly's caviar and cap Captain. I'm writing to the party in an suv, and Kyle's like, so I was filling Jen in on what happened the other day with dreads, and she was like, the first one there, and, like, Sutton was like the first one there, and, like, no one was there. And she just had to sit there and, like, sat there and sat there and sat there and sat there. It was, like, hilarious.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

For 40 minutes. It was disturbing.

[Ronnie Karam]

So we see a clip of that Sutton just walking around that. That farmhouse. Like, what do I do in a style like this? It's just terrible. This is horrible. Are these plastic floors?

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, I was just. I was watching the babysitters club, and I was like, what's the babysitters club? They're Dorit's friends. So they were like all 14.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So you want me to be not. They're like, oh, my God, 14 sudden.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you want me to be nice. I'm not being nice today.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

This is not.

[Ben Mandelker]

Not something.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't know why Dorit continues to come after me. And she's, like, full. And her full on squint mode where she's just squinting at the cameras and her little cat eyes are gleaming behind her eyes like she's ready to rip her anyone. She's like, I mean, there's obvious reasons. There's people in our group that have a lifestyle that Dorit aspires to have. Unfortunately, she did not marry someone rich enough. Okay, now, I could understand the confusion. When you marry the Pillsbury doughboy. That man could be getting a lot of residuals, but unfortunately, he's just an actor at the end of the day.

[Ben Mandelker]

Unfortunately, crescent rolls aren't going to pay the bills, so. So then they go back to caviar caspia, and everyone's drinking and enjoying things, and Faye Resnick is like, oh, I'm dying to see your jewelry. Well, are you seeing this stuff? This is one of them. And then there's, you know, Jennifer's showing off her jewelry.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

She's like, this is kind of God, no. This is kind of God, no. This is kind of Gagna. This is Bulgari. This is Bvlgary. This is forever 21, just to mix it up. And this one. I don't even know what this one is. This is just some so of, like, gold thing that I just picked up somewhere just by being rich. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. These people are so tacky on the show. I love it because on one end, it's like. It is the glamorous one. Like, even the car. Erica drove up, and I was like, oh, my God. They got her a really nice car on Beverly Hills to drive that black. But they're just so tacky.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Like, oh, yeah, look how much money I have. This and that.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's so trashy. I mean, they're so rich, but so trashy.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

I love this one I got by raiding a pyramid in Egypt. That was wonderful. That I got to do that one. I love that one. This one is from. Oh, this one's from a sacred temple in. In. In remote India. So I got that one as well. It's just lovely.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm sorry, did you say Inja?

[Jennifer Tilly]

Please get out of here. You weren't invited. Naughty boy.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, I'll go back to designing pool houses. You don't gotta tell me I'm a trophy.

[Jennifer Tilly]

I already know I'm a trophy. You don't gotta tell me I'm a.

[Ronnie Karam]

Trophy because I know Trixie. So then Dorit and Bose arrive. Trophies. Trophies both. And suddenly everybody comes. Everybody's here. So Dorit is not dressed in a caftan. She's wearing, like, some black and white splotchy dress, and it's awkward. And Garcelle's like, oh, does Chanel not make kaftans? Was there nobody with a CC stamp for Dorit today?

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't tell Tallulah Getty or whatever her name is. Talitha Getty. So Garcelle. Yes. So I like how Garcelle says, is that why Ms. Thing isn't wearing one? Ms. Thing? So everyone's ordering drinks and everything, and Kyle asks for a mocktail, and Dorit's.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Like, well, I think I missed the caftan memo. So it sounds like, how did you miss that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Which is actually a fair question. I mean, everyone's wearing it. Everyone's wearing a captain. Even, like. Even, like the Uber drivers are wearing captains just in case they might get invited in.

[Ronnie Karam]

Even Faye, who wasn't invited, is wearing a caftan, you know? And Son's like, did I miss the captain? Idiot. She's stupid.

[Ben Mandelker]

I guess poor people don't understand what captains are.

[Jennifer Tilly]

So I didn't read the invitation properly.

[Ronnie Karam]

I read it. Caspian, caviar, Caspia. So I knew there was caviar. I knew that there was a friendly ghost, but I didn't see the captains part. I'm just not a big fan of them. So this Dior dress will have to do. Anyway.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Satin. It's important to stay hydrated.

[Ben Mandelker]

And because Sutton's drinking water, and Dorit's.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Like, oh, is that because about Tet a Tet?

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, is it okay for me to drink water? Am I allowed to drink water? Are not allowed to have drink water? Or is that something that a poor person doesn't understand?

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, are you in that mood today? She goes, no, Why'd you ask? You started it. To read. You started it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Leave me alone. She will not leave me alone. I said it five years ago when I met. When I met her, and I unleashed.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

My instant famous line.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let the mouse go. Roll it, boys.

[Ronnie Karam]

You can now buy that on a ball gown that's $19,000 from my store. And on the back line, it says, let the mask go.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm sure we're. Let's go. Hashtag, green line, Green line, green line.

[Ronnie Karam]

So, yeah, she's kind of giving her shit, but I don't know. My. My friends give me so much shit every time I don't have a drink. I can't be so mad at Dorit yet. I'm sorry. I can't. I know. I see that there's all this outrage about it. I just, like. I'm just not feeling it. I think it's funny. And I think that Sutton is so defensive about drinking that she's making herself look like an alcoholic. I've never seen anybody this defensive.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just my favorite Sutton is totally unhinged. It is just the best. And, like, everything sets her off. So she's like, well, I need to tell her I am not a mouse, okay? She goes, is it okay for me to drink water?

[Garcelle Beauvais]

She's like, okay, but listen, I never know which Sutton I'm going to get, but now I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then they move over to the table because the potato's gonna get col. And so, Jennifer, everyone put on your blindfold.

[Jennifer Tilly]

I have a very special, special surprise. Take them off. That's right. The tables are in a line.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, this is revolutionary. Revolutionary. Did one of the Architects from Spain organize this. So. So everyone's sitting down and they're look. And Garcel notices a. A. A name at the table, a seating tag. Place. Place tag, whatever. Place card. And she says, anne Marie. And Carson's like, what? Who's Anne Marie? I'm gonna preload my. No. And then we see, like, a flashback to America's favorite. America's favorite housewife, Anne Marie. Anna Marie talked about the esophagus.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, you. I know everything about your esophagus because I am a doctor. A medical doctor. Surgeon.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

No, these are my fans. This is. This isn't. This is a non famous Anne Marie.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're like, oh, thank God.

[Ronnie Karam]

She goes, I thought for a minute there, oh, hell no. Anna Marie is like. And another lawsuit, I will be suing you along with the Medical American Association. This is all because of the libs. Well, guess who's not going to be showing up at your lib party anytime soon.

[Ben Mandelker]

I am. I am now spearheading a new movement called Maya, which is Make America Esophagus. Again.

[Ronnie Karam]

We have 8.5 members. So they sit down and it's awkward because Sutton's. Sutton and Dorit are already sniping each other, and Dorit's like, wow, what a.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Great way to start the day.

[Ronnie Karam]

A dry drunk say thank you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hi, Faye Resnick is here.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Hello, Jennifer.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's amazing. You were nominated for an Academy Award, unlike Kyle's best friend, who won one.

[Ronnie Karam]

Way to keep current. Way to keep current.

[Jennifer Tilly]

It's a very, very long time ago, and I did get to go to the big show. It was nice. Gregory Peck stepped on my train.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, really? Well, one time, Taylor Armstrong threw what's his bun's Vanderpump into a pool. Ken Vanderpump. So pretty close.

[Ben Mandelker]

Who's Gregory Peck? Am I right? Hi, guys. Am I right?

[Garcelle Beauvais]

So, yes, there's Gregory Peck, and I wore Isaac Mizrahi. Oh, really? And you and your sister are the only sisters that have been nominated, or was that Olivia de Havilland and her sister too?

[Ben Mandelker]

I love when Erica does her Wikipedia research before seeing. It's always so funny.

[Jennifer Tilly]

I was married to a liar. Yes. Olivia to have Lind and Joan Fontaine. That's who you're thinking about. Both of them are owners of dresses that. That Gregory Peck didn't step on. So I raised the potato to them.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Yes. And we are also the only two Chinese American people that were nominated also. And Erica's like, oh, you're Chinese. Yes, I'm half Chinese. And My dad. My dad was Chinese. Oh Really? Because I'm 10% native.

[Ronnie Karam]

Shut up Eric.

[Ben Mandelker]

Shut up. How did this not get clocked? Like what?

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Well, good, good.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Now put it down.

[Ben Mandelker]

We're gonna try another one.

[Unknown]

White Zin became America's top selling wine. But most don't know that this sweet drink has a sour history. What began in 1986 with counterfeit bottles.

[Ronnie Karam]

A big fraud, a multi million dollar.

[Unknown]

Fraud sent investigators chasing one of the most powerful families in the business, the Licciardis. But the closer the feds got to them, the more dangerous things became. It's a story of deceit.

[Ronnie Karam]

At the time, I was paranoid. Threats, you touch my kids, I will kill you. And murder with a.22 caliber. Pull it to the head.

[Unknown]

What started with a scheme to mislabel wine spilled into a blood soaked battle for succession. Welcome to Blood Vines. You can binge listen to Blood Vines exclusively and ad free on Wondery. Join Wondery in the Wondery app, Apple podcasts, or Spotify.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Oh, because I have other 23 of me and I'm 10% native, so there we can bond.

[Jennifer Tilly]

You know, I'm the only 10 Native person who has not been nominated for an Academy Award, so I'm glad we had this discussion.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

She goes, yeah, sorry.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Well, we always wanted to be Native American because we loved Cher and the same. And that song that she sang, half Breathe.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Yeah, but she's a meaning and from the Valley. Gross.

[Ben Mandelker]

Which I did not know this by the way.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

And isn't that funny? Isn't that funny? She's from the Valley. How hilarious. And Erica's like, yeah, Sherilyn Sarkeesian from Van Nuys.

[Jennifer Tilly]

That's a fucking chair. Give me a break.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

And I can't get a hit single.

[Ronnie Karam]

Come on. You've got to be kidding me. Oh, Erica, you've got a real thing about the Valley. And let me just say, as another Chinese person, I just don't understand it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kelly Dodd comes in, she goes, I'm black. So Eric.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Well, we love the Valley. I lived in the Valley. Come on. You know, it's the only place I.

[Ronnie Karam]

Can get consistent work.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Listen, who doesn't love always? Who doesn't love the Valley?

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, you're always at least five minutes away from a wiener schnitzel.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

So Jennifer Tilly's like, okay, everybody, does anybody want a cocktail?

[Ben Mandelker]

So they are gonna. They order stuff.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Susan order doesn't want to be bugged about her alcohol.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Can I get some champagne?

[Ronnie Karam]

In a white wine glass.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

I just need a bigger I skin bless. Thank you. Do you have. Do you have a jug? Do you have a gallon jug? Just bring that over.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

And if not, I'm gonna go and.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Oh, look at you. Speak la pisi. Look at you speaking French, because.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, Sava francais. You see, Garcelle's like, girl. She's like.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

I mean, I can't decide.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sorry. I can't decide which person I'm gonna be today according to poor rate.

[Ronnie Karam]

And they just look at her like, what? What are you talking about? And then Buzz kind of looks over at her, and Buzz just wants to eat a pickle. You know, like, Bo's, like, not paying attention, really? But she looks over at her like, what? And set goes, well, how many people do you have in you today? And she goes, how many what? How many people do you have in you today? She is. How many people do I what? I've got four eggs are. They are egg houses. Hey, listen, my four egg houses on Le Piscine.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Not the only one.

[Ben Mandelker]

How many people do. I have one myself. I don't have voices talking to me. Honey, how many do you have? So both.

[Ronnie Karam]

She didn't get the joke. She didn't get what Sutton was saying at all, which is.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, she got it. No, she got it. She was being very nice. She was basically saying, like, excuse me. Also, it's a great way to ruin someone's zinger is if. If someone's like, aha, I'm gonna diss you. And then you say, wait, can you say that again? I didn't hear it. And then they, like, lose their momentum, and you're like, oh, okay, so Bose. I think Bose had full control over that situation. So Sutton's like, well, dorit already mentioned person. Are you today? So rewind 20 minutes.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

I never know which Sutton I'm going to get. And now I know.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God, how offensive. This is so offensive. I can see why Sutton has a fit. I've never heard anything so offensive. So Dreet goes, is that what you were referring to? That little comment I made? He goes, that's what you said. That is what you said. To read. It's what you said.

[Jennifer Tilly]

She goes, well, Erica's like, oh, God, we can't fight. Food's coming. Guys, please. I don't get an opportunity to eat baked potatoes with rose on them. All right, come on, guys.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's my once a year baked potato, okay? And I just have my once a year hot dog. Oh, and by the Way. I just want everyone to know that on Monday, after we talked so much about Sir Wieners, and this is on the heels of Erica talking about her hot dog last week, I did. After we were done podcasting, I did drive off to a roadside stand, and I ate two hot dogs. I just want to say this show influences me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

This network. Yeah, it was fabulous.

[Ronnie Karam]

Got your hot dog in there. Good for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just want to make sure I'm gonna update all the zero people who cared about that, so you hot dog goblin.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Andrea's like, let me just back off a bit, Sutton. Just you back off on me. And she's like, when my lunch has been spoiled. All right, it is without PK Here. It's the first time I actually have a chance to eat something on my own plate, so please. And, oh, well, I'm gonna say something to you. I'm gone. I'm gonna go. And I mean this sincerely, so Dorit just goes, hold on. Ding, ding, ding. Starts taking class.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs has an announcement to make.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Satan goes, okay, we don't need you. We don't need a table announcement. Okay, I'm just talking to you.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

She's like, okay, everyone, Sutton has something to say. Everyone, please, please let this deranged person speak.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, No. I came to your house, to your Fourth of July party to celebrate this country. And I came calm, and I came in peace. And I waited, and as soon as Kyle got you, came down, and then you took my handbag.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Oh, they all say they come in peace at first. Ask my ancestors.

[Ben Mandelker]

Surgery.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

It's like, oh, how vicious of me. Heaven forbid. A little humor. Oh, was it humorous? But it depends on your mood. It's humorous if you were in a good mood. Well, I wasn't. I came in in politeness.

[Ben Mandelker]

I bought you a very nice bottle of champagne that's definitely out of your price bracket. It's called Andre, I think you would like it. And I cut flower from my garden. I held them for 30 minutes in your lobby. Now, technically, it wasn't flowers. They were just dandelions, which are actually weeds, but whatever. They made your lobby look nice.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Gar goes, not lobby. She's. Well, it looked like a lobby because I was the only one there. So, you know, you wanted to point out the vodka and the grapefruit juice, and then you put vodka in your Coca Cola, which I thought was interesting. Well, and then we sit down, and I get a watermelon drink, and you go, aha. You're asking if there's alcohol in. That was a jab. That was a jab. And everyone's just looking at her like, what is this crazy lady? Like, you have not said one offensive thing yet, except that she made you wait 30 minutes. The rest of it's like, so she put some Coca Cola in her. What are you talking. What are you mad about? And then Drake goes, why was it a jab? And she's. And by the way, it's pronounced jib. It was a jib.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

And at least I served rose in a rose glass.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Sutton's like, after what. What happened last year and what you did to me?

[Garcelle Beauvais]

She like, what did I do to you last year?

[Ben Mandelker]

You insinuated that I had a drinking problem, and I am not a drunk, even though I clearly have very defined opinions on where vodka should go. Okay, non Coca Cola, but down.

[Ronnie Karam]

But then we. We see a flashback to the reunion where Dorit is wearing that red outfit with the scarf.

[Ben Mandelker]

National Geographic Pashmina.

[Ronnie Karam]

I laugh so hard, I forgot about that. I don't know how I forgot about it, but it made me laugh so hard. And so he's like, well, wait, do you think that she has.

[Ben Mandelker]

No.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Do you think she's an alcoholic country.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like, I don't know. Well, I didn't mean to. Inside you eat. But you did, kind of. But I did. I'm just saying I don't know. Well, how do I know she has a drinking problem? Smell of breath. How dare you? How dare you?

[Ben Mandelker]

So we come back to present, and Dorit's like, so I was the only.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

One talking about your drinking.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like, but Kyle was there too. But Kyle has apologized to me. She did a split and said sorry.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

So Dorit's like, oh, and I didn't apologize? I didn't apologize to you? No, I thought you did.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we get back to the reunion, and she's like, I'm sorry that.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

You have a drinking problem.

[Ronnie Karam]

She goes, I don't think that you have a drinking problem, Sutton. And she goes, but I don't. Well, I don't know. I don't know. That's dreaming. Apology.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Sorry that I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sorry I can't figure out if you have your drinking problem or not.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Maybe if you were sober for once.

[Ben Mandelker]

I would be able to tell the.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Difference between you being sober and drunk, but until then, I don't know.

[Ronnie Karam]

And you thought that was an apology? Well, I wasn't gonna let you perpetuate that myth, which is what he wanted to do. And you picked at me, and I'm sorry, you need to pick on somebody else whose wallet fits. And Garcelle goes, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, okay. I was like, listen, I'm always on your side, but calm it down over there. And Kyle's just like, no, ma'am. I cannot believe what just came out of her mouth. You should never poor shame someone. You should just drive in front of Kim's house and just honk and wait until she comes out and tries to get on her bicycle and you're in a Range Rover. That's fun enough, isn't it?

[Ben Mandelker]

What you have to do is you go to Kim's house and you give her two envelopes and say, one has postage stamps, one has food stamps. You have to choose, but you only get one. And just watch her reaction. That's all you do. So then Erica is. But by the way, suds thing didn't totally make sense. Like, don't pick on. Pick on someone whose wallet fits. I guess you're saying, like, pick on someone whose wallet fits your wallet.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, don't back on someone so rich. Yeah, Find someone. Find another poor person to buy one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Whose wallet fits the bill. So, Erica.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Oh, so you think you're bigger than her?

[Ben Mandelker]

And son's like, I think my wallet.

[Ronnie Karam]

Is only because it's got little tiny airline bottles of vodka in it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Most people on this show like it when someone says that there's something bigger than them. Something larger than them.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Like, oh, does your wallet make me look skinny? So Dorit's like, and now we're seeing Sutton go where she's most comfortable to go. As low as you can possibly go. Just because she thinks her ex husband dropped a big pocketbook in her lap. It doesn't give a license to be such a C word.

[Ben Mandelker]

She just really loves saying the C word this season.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she's like, the only big thing your big wallet has bought you is a horse instead of a date. Which I was like, damn.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Well, guess what?

[Ben Mandelker]

My horse was my date. There, I said it. It's sick, but it brings me love.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Stop picking up.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, stop picking on me. Pick on somebody else.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Well, what does money have to do with it? All right, Erica, who's like, come on my private jet.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, Erica was the biggest braggart of money, but Erica has been humbled, you know? And Sutton is still in that unhumbled place. So she's like, I'm just. I just want her to back off of me. I'm tired of it. I am tired of it. I am tired of It. Well, let me know when you done sing. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it. I am tired of it. I'm tired of it.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

So here we go. I'm talking about your wallet size.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't with me. I don't regret it. I won't regret.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

In fact, I'm proud that I said it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sutton is just like, oh, I love her. Living in her bitchery. So Sutton's like, well, let me make this very clear.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Miss it.

[Ben Mandelker]

When she said Missy, oh, my God, I died.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

And then Erica's like, what's with Missy?

[Jennifer Tilly]

Why you saying Missy?

[Ronnie Karam]

Because she was raging bacon. She made it clear she didn't want me to be there. So guess what? I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna go. Missy.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

She's like, oh, so it's justified for you. It's not okay for. For coil. Just.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was sitting on the side of the road, okay?

[Garcelle Beauvais]

I wasn't sitting on the side of.

[Ben Mandelker]

The road in a bathrobe, okay? When I stormed out, I stormed out fully clothed. And in a classy way, I stormed.

[Ronnie Karam]

Out like a person with a big wallet would storm out. Kyle was just like a poor person in a bathrobe. And then we see that again. K offended. And we see the flashback of Kyle like, I am leaving.

[Jennifer Tilly]

I am leaving.

[Ronnie Karam]

I am leaving and crying on the. On that street in Hancock Park. So Sutton's like, I left because my hostess did not want me to be there. She goes, oh, did I call you a.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, but I should have called you a. Bruise is like. And G goes, everyone's just making noises. Fans at the end of the table.

[Ronnie Karam]

Going, well, I'm the one who's being mean to her. Do you see that? I'm the one who's made to me to make her feel uncomfortable. I'm the one who's unwitting. And she tells us. I'm so over Sutton's boo sheets. Honestly, I don't want to be around someone who is as tacky, low, classless. That's what fitness is. Is that still working the cuck? Fitness question.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Anyone? 1.

[Ben Mandelker]

Does anyone. Anyone got a mirror? Well, she needs one because she needs a touch up.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

But Sutton sudden really needs a sudden. First of all, don't steal my mirror line. I was setting myself up for my own punchline. Don't get to take it away from me. Excuse me, mirror, please, to seat number three, because Saturn needs a mirror that.

[Ben Mandelker]

She can hold up.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Hold on, everyone, to her face.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Got her I don't want these girls getting into a caviar food fight that messy and expensive. I'm paying for it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, what about you saying, I'm sorry, that was a terrible joke. I take it back, and then we're done.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

She goes, oh, you think that's really good? You think that's going to be done?

[Ben Mandelker]

She's, well, I don't know, but give it a shot.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Okay, let me try it. Sutton, I'm so sorry. That was a terrible joke.

[Ben Mandelker]

Your stupid cut fitness.

[Ronnie Karam]

And they're like, great job, Doreen.

[Jennifer Tilly]

Well, that worked out well. But go on, then.

[Ronnie Karam]

Tell me what to do then. Do you mean that? Since, like, do you mean it, Dorit?

[Jennifer Tilly]

Do you mean it?

[Ronnie Karam]

Garcelle's like, just say, my bad. Don't say anything after that, okay? If I offended you or upset you, even in that moment, had you said to read, please don't do that, it actually upsets.

[Jennifer Tilly]

I did say it.

[Ronnie Karam]

I did. No, you called me a beach in me house. A beach in me. Who's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, it was warranted.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

And then you decided that when you were gonna.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're gonna go up, you're gonna get up and walk out.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

No, I did not say I was.

[Ben Mandelker]

Gonna get up and walk out. I said, I'm gonna go. So Kyle's like, everyone, let me ask you a question, okay? What do you two need from each other right now? So s goes, well, she has nothing to give me.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

I can promise you that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Unless it's debt.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's poor, okay? That's what. That's what I'm saying right now. She is a poor, poor person. Nothing to give me, and I don't want it. She goes, well, I mean, do you think I'm gonna sit here and keep taking this Kyle and you, out of all people, cow sitting there and watching with your little lips doing nothing? I was like, what my lips do?

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm, like, literally trying to intervene and say, guys, does anyone know how to close a French door?

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Okay, you know what? I am not dealing with somebody who actually wants to have a productive conversation, who wants to have any type of relationship, let alone a civil one.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, well, is there anything either of you guys can do? Is there anything, something that she can do to make you feel better? If I twirl my ponytail, will that make you guys feel happy here?

[Ronnie Karam]

I think that if you guys could just agree on one thing. So what do you both think about Mauricio putting a picture of his Dancing with the Stars picture in the office?

[Ben Mandelker]

If I gave you guys, complimentary overstock from Kyle by shahida. Would that make you happy?

[Ronnie Karam]

Sounds like. I think that we need space. Yes. Well, I'm good with that. Give me space. It's all I'm going to be getting for the next five years after my house is taken away thinking you. Thank you so much.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Kyle and Dorit switched spaces, and. And so now everyone is eating. Now some more food comes out. And Kyle's like, oh, my God, that looks amazing. And Fay's like, well, I think Dorit just doesn't want people saying that she's late all the time. Oh, yeah, that's. Except that Dorit is late all the time. Every single episode for six years.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, Faye is trying to be the great mediator here. She's like, yeah, Dorit doesn't want people saying she's late. And listen, I drink as much as you, Sutton. I mean, we just all have little buttons, don't we?

[Jennifer Tilly]

Oh, God, just.

[Ben Mandelker]

What?

[Ronnie Karam]

And Garcelle's like, well, hello, everybody. This is Faye Sutton. Would you like to stand up and say your name? How dare you? I'm sorry. I didn't mean it like that. Really.

[Ben Mandelker]

Listen, nobody wants to be put into a box because of it, period. We don't want to be judged. We don't want to be labeled. I mean, morally corrupt.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

How could you even in.

[Ben Mandelker]

We just want to enjoy our lives, and I think that's the problem. And if enjoying your lives means exploiting your friend who was murdered, that's okay, because that's your pursuit of joy.

[Ronnie Karam]

And if anybody needs some completely unfashionable wicker baskets installed into a closet anytime soon, just give me a call.

[Ben Mandelker]

So the potatoes arrive. They range from price 250 to a thousand dollars. So Jen, Jennifer is like, well, Dorit is just ra.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

And it seems like she's got a lot going on, you know? Like, she's, like, in an emotional state. Like, poor Dorit. That was. That was just. Just throwing a bone to. To Sutton.

[Ronnie Karam]

So it's like, that's not Porter. She's mean as hell. I don't want to see her. I don't want to speak to her. We're done. I don't care her about her at all.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Kyle and Dorito talking to the side, and she's like, how are you? Which is my way of saying, can you ask me how I am? And Reit's like, I didn't even get.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

A chance to speak.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, yeah, she's definitely on fire today. No doubt. And I definitely did not, like, stoke it in the car on the way over here.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, and she's kind of trying to make Dorit make peace, but Dorit's like, I will not go back out there. Could you bring that baked potato? I'm really hungry. It's been long time since I. Oh, wait. This is fascinating. I'm really sorry you're hurt. We had another Bren in my house today.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Listen, okay, I keep telling myself, don't go there. Don't go there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, you're talking about oral sex with PK again.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

No, no, I'm saying if I go as fucking low as she does, I will eviscerate her. And I do want. Do not want to go low, because I already did marry PK and that was pretty low as it was. So there's only so much a person's gonna take.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, well, maybe you guys need to, like, talk alone or something. I have no patience for her. She's like. Well, she's definitely not letting you talk today. I mean, you know Sutton. You know, it's Sutton. I mean, she just needs to cool down and after spend. And then she tells us, after spending time with Sutton and Augusta and hearing the stories about her dad, you know, they should just, like, kind of give her a break. Basically, she's like, I now understand a lot more why Sutton's triggered by the drinking comments, you know, but she doesn't tell this to Dorit.

[Ben Mandelker]

She just tells bring this up.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm not going to give any context to Dorit, but I'll just hold on to this card.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I'll just let Dorit flounder here.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

Yeah, well, I just need a break from her. She's too coo coo. She's too all over the place. And when she balances her meds, she can come to see me, period.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, that's another. You know, that's another one with Sutton. So Carl's like, oh, yeah. She gets offended by that. I wouldn't say that. She's. Well, she gets offended by almost everything. I'm so over this woman. She's gross. I don't even have any will to try anymore. I just want to go home while I've got it and leave this miserable beach to enjoy a big wallet.

[Ben Mandelker]

You guys should talk, just like the two of you. Yeah. So now it's the next day, and everything's like, fun, fun, fun. And then a boom. Oh, hello. This boom is brought to you by Garcelle Beauvais. Hello, everyone. Hold on. Oh, no, no, no. And Headlines appear, Maurice's mystery woman is.

[Ronnie Karam]

Identified as Russian born actress who's 20 years younger than Kyle Rich's ex and is in a movie with Alec Baldwin, who will also be on TLC soon. LOL.

[Ben Mandelker]

Am I right? Wow, Sutton, I'm FaceTiming you. Have you seen the social media? Did you see the photos of him in Greece at the airport with a girl who has no clothes on?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And we see the picture of Mauricio kissing this young girl at the Avis rent a car airport. So. So it sounds like we got a lot to unpack here. We got a lot to unpack here. So then we go to Boses and she's like, oh my God, Dorit, did you see the news? Was I in it? No, about Kyle. Oh, God, what is it?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, girl. And? Well, it was a girl and it wasn't. Oh, this isn't a friendly kiss, like, oh, like we've been together type of kiss. Like, homegirl's hands were all up around.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

His neck and she goes, oh, it felt like a punch in the gut.

[Ben Mandelker]

For Kyle, I'm sure. Was very funny for me.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we go over to Kyle and Erica calls her, and Erica's just giving her a look in the phone, like, what? What?

[Jennifer Tilly]

Well, I was gonna ask you how you are.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I really don't know how I am right now, to be honest. I mean, I'm just here in the house, there's a chair stuck in the door way. I don't know how to get it out.

[Ben Mandelker]

I've been crying in the mini cottage all day. So Kyle's like, well, she's like, I mean, I had no idea, but it's like all over the Internet, like, I don't even know, which is. Well, if you're meeting someone, why are.

[Garcelle Beauvais]

You greeting them at the airport?

[Ben Mandelker]

And if you know this is gonna happen, she's like, yeah, obviously. Like, when someone gets a shot of you like that, like, you just don't know. Like, obviously he, like, didn't know his picture was being taken. Like, obviously. And like, I don't think this, especially in Europe, you're expecting that to happen again. Yeah. Like what? See, like, why is it paparazzi in Greece taking a photo of Mauricio? I don't think that's. I don't think that's something that's just gonna happen on its own.

[Ronnie Karam]

Listen, this is what I. You know, I've been saying this forever, that those two are just planning all these paparazzi shots. There's no way that anybody cares this much about Kyle and Morgan or Mauricio. I'm sorry, there's just us. Yes. And so it's obviously fishy. So I loved this episode because finally somebody is on that, you know, and so she's not that no one else thought it. It's just, you know, when you hear it on tv, it's like, oh, my God, I'm not as crazy as I thought. So she's like, he didn't do it on purpose. Is that what you're implying, Erica?

[Jennifer Tilly]

And she's like, no, I didn't say on purpose. I'm just thinking. You can't be naive is what I'm thinking.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we go to Garcelle FaceTiming Sutton, and Sutton's like, I mean, that was not an accidental paparazzi shop. This was. Was a Pl photo. And, you know, I'm being serious, cuz I'm putting beats between each my words and tiny little breaths.

[Ben Mandelker]

Also, when you're as wealthy as Mauricio, you're not going to Avis. You have a car service. So, Gar. So, like, the fact that they were, like, in front of Avis, like, smooching in Greece in front of.

[Ronnie Karam]

I think it was the baggage claim, right? I think the Avis was just the background. I don't think they were actually at the Avis. They weren't, like, waiting for their escort.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're like, hi. Hi. I'm here to pick up my.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm here to pick up my 25 year old.

[Ben Mandelker]

I will get insurance a lot. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So that was not accidental. That was a plant photo. And she's like, no, well, no one's gonna hire someone to take that photo. Just. Yeah, they are. Now, I have been to the airport, and really, honestly, I think I was in the airport when Jennifer Aniston was there, and there was no paparazzi. And I just passed by and said, poor.

[Ben Mandelker]

Maybe next time grow your wallet and you'll get a paparazzo. So Sutton says, my one thought is this. Are Kyle and Mauricio using paparazzi to tell our stories to. To do a War of the Roses thing with, like, those pictures of Morgan, picking her up at the airport, getting gas, walking down the street? Huh. Wait, are you saying Mo planted those photos to get back at Kyle to do that? Huh? Huh? Wait, let me add one more thing.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wow. I. And she says 100%. I think that probably it's more likely that Kyle did it because Kyle is looking. You know, Kyle needs some more feelings. What am I trying to say? Like, sympathy I think Kyle feels like she needs some more sympathy from the girls. So I think if I needed it, anybody did it, it was probably Kyle. But I would believe that he did it. I definitely believe. I think they both call the paps on themselves.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think they both called the paps on themselves. And Kyle is going to continue peddling the story that they're having the best, most amicable divorce of all time. And that's nice to think. But watch this is. It's going downhill. It's going downhill.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, yeah. And also it's the same episode where Kyle was saying, I think she told her therapist, you know, I thought this is what I wanted. But now he's off living his own life and I think it's time to. That I did something like I think it's time I made a change inferring that she's going to get a divorce. Like it's finally time to get a divorce. And then coincidentally then pictures show up of Mauricio with this young girl. So come on now. I think Kyle.

[Ben Mandelker]

But then she's also like, oh, you're going to live your best life. Well, here is here. She's not going to brag to him that she's living her best life, but she will make it seen and known. So, yeah, it's 100%. They're going after each other with paparazzi sea and it's fun and we benefit from it because it's hilarious. So, yeah, good times.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. As far as the Sutton versus Street stuff, I just. They're both and I love it. I'm enjoying them both. I'm not terribly offended by either other one of them at this point. I'm just enjoying the ride.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm just enjoying that the show has, has moved a bit out of its like the, the polite rut it had been in for a few seasons there towards the end of like the Lisa Rinna stint there. I'm not saying it's because of Lisa Rinna. I'm just saying it was around that time and now they're just outwardly, outwardly just really saying what's on their mind. I think that's actually really good for the show.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Well, super fun episode. Thanks for being with us, you guys. It was a very fun two parter. We'll be back tomorrow with some summer house which is also going to be wild because it's Kyle versus Paige. It's the beginning of Kyle versus Paige. So we will see you tomorrow for that. If you want traders, recaps or videos of all of These recaps go over to patreon.com and of course, watch what crappens.com for ticket links and cities and dates and all that for the mounting Hysteria tour. We'll talk to you next time. Bye.

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