Ben (3:00)

Happen. Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?

Ronnie (3:15)

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappin, a podcast for all the crap we love to talk about on Yo Bravs. I'm Ronnie, and with me is the gorgeous and talented Mr. Ben Ban. Hello, Ben.

Ben (3:26)

Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?

Ronnie (3:28)

Good. If you've been working out, I can tell this part of your neck is very strong right now.

Ben (3:34)

Really? I think it's because I'm leaning forward. I'm just. Look, I'm like normal. I'm like, very strong. Really? Well, thank you. Thank you. I've been trying to work out more, but I don't think I've been growing my neck.

Ronnie (3:45)

Well, Ben is getting his tour body ready because we're on tour. We're going next month. Well, this month because it's March now, so we're going to be traveling like in a week or so. We're going to Cincinnati, Minneapolis, Toronto, Charlotte, Atlanta, Washington, Philadelphia, Boston, Detroit, Chicago, Austin, Dallas, and Las Vegas. Get tickets for all of our live shows over at watch what crappens.com we announced what we're covering about a week before over on our Instagram and you can get videos of all of our recaps except live shows, but all the other recaps and traders recaps over on our Patreon. You can also find links to those on watch what crappens.com so what do you think about that now? Here we are with some Southern hospital. We did not. We're doing this a little late because we guested on a show yesterday. So it kind of took our time for this. But we did not for forget our little, little Southern hospitality.

Ben (4:38)

I, I just tried to put Charleston up in the background as so busy that I, I'm just.

Ronnie (4:42)

Oh, I have another one under there that I got. We're trying to change our background picture for all this stuff today. And just for fun, just, you know, to do.

Ben (4:50)

It was underwater when it started because we had done a blow deck beforehand.

Ronnie (4:54)

So this is the one I found.

Ben (4:56)

I had put one up. I had, I had downloaded one that was very similar, but it'll be similarly. I think it'll be also very, very, very busy. I'll try it here. Wait, here we go. I'm going to add this Charleston picture and it's uploading right it's going to be busy. It's not gonna. It's not gonna look great. Yeah, no, well, it's good.

Ronnie (5:13)

That one's fine. Okay, so here we are in Charleston. We get overhead shots, we get the Raven Owl Bridge, and we get a song that nobody is singing on this show, which is all alone. Cause I'm better off without you. It's like the anti Emmy song. No one's singing that song on here. Everybody's, like, terrified of being alone, so they're just going to be with someone they're not right with. What the hell? Where's that song, Trixie? How about unsettled? Settle. Settling like the forefathers of Charleston. That's it.

Ben (5:48)

Yeah. So then we go to Dunes West Golf Club, and Will and Joe. Bradley. Will. I'm sorry? Will. And Joe and Bradley all arrive at the golf course together. And Will is like, huh, I don't think I've swung a golf club in, like, four years. And Joe's like, yeah, you should, like, enter. You need to enter, like, bigger tournaments. So Brad shows up, and they go golfing and everything. They're all like, bro. Ended up on the golf course and joking around. And Joe's like, it's pretty moist out here. Here you go, tiger. Here's a club. So then they're. They're. They're having fun. Then we go over to Charleston, into the city, and we go to the Nails. Sew. Dep. Or is it nails so deep?

Ronnie (6:34)

So Depp. What does that mean?

Ben (6:36)

I can't. I don't know. Maybe that's the name of the person who owns it. Depp. Or maybe it's a typo and supposed to be deep, but either way, it's a nail salon.

Ronnie (6:45)

Yeah. So Maddie and Mia are going to Goss at the nail salon, and they're talking about how much fun they had together in Vegas. I mean, it's like, yeah, but actually, like, I worry for you when you do get married and Grace Lily is invited to the actual wedding. And then we get a flashback to Grace Lily.

Ben (7:01)

Just think.

Ronnie (7:04)

Solving in the fake wedding. And Maddie's like, I am actually exhausted by that girl. Like, I'm like, literally exhausted by her.

Ben (7:13)

Yeah. And Mia's like, then, like, why do you let that friendship exhaust you? Is that not a sign that it's time to cut the friendship loose? And then we see.

Ronnie (7:23)

No, it's not time for that, ma'am. Stop bringing in. Letting go of Grace Lily. Don't get Grace Lily kicked off of this show. Excuse me. Yeah, I Like you, but no, back. Yeah, back down.

Ben (7:35)

I agree. We see a flashback to them fighting in Vegas, and Matt is like, well, I don't know. I feel like one on one. Like, me and her. She'll take accountability, but the moment she's in a group setting, she goes on the defense. Like, ello. Fucking L.

Ronnie (7:52)

Yeah, it's weird. It's like being confronted by 20 people is different than being confronted privately by one person. I wonder why that is. So then we go back to the golfing, and Will's like, should we get our balls out? And Brad's like, that's a different kind of party, Will. Hey, I'm more Tiger hood than Tiger Woods.

Ben (8:15)

Get it? You're such a douchebag. So then there's. They're taking swings and everything. And Brad's like, it usually takes me, like, three or four holes to warm up. Well, I was like, that's what she said. So.

Ronnie (8:27)

Yeah, you don't need to be warming up any more holes, Will. Okay.

Ben (8:31)

Joe's like, it's usual golf etiquette. Like, I don't know how it is at the law office, but, like, you don't talk during people's backswings. Do you do backswings at the law office?

Ronnie (8:40)

Yeah, but with highlighters. So I'm pretty busy.

Ben (8:44)

Are you allowed to talk while you're using your highlighter? Because at golf you're not allowed to.

Ronnie (8:49)

So back to the nail salon. They're talking about Maddie's DJ life, and she's like, I just came back from Miami. It was, like, crazy. And Joe didn't come because he was at a wedding. And so Mia's like, are you really gonna marry Joe? And she's like, well, we talked about it, but, like, I'm just, like, trying to kind of pump the brakes on his Uber, you know? It's like, just pump it. And then we go back to the golf course, and they're giving Joe shit about, you know, being fake married. And he's like, we're good. It's just like, you know, like, I'm at the point where, like, I live with Maddie, like, six out of seven of the days now. And, like, I have to go to Daniel island. And it's, like, starting to, like, take a toll on me, you know? Like, I love the girl she's living with to death, but, like, it's like, super. I could have a Lamborghini, like, for all that I spent on Ubers. And it's like. It's just, like, ridiculous. Like, I'm just thinking like, if I lived with my boys 30 minutes away, like, how many nights a week would she come spend the night at my house?

Ben (9:43)

Yeah, I'm like. It's, like, getting, like, really hard for me to, like, show up at their house, and then Cloris Leachman opens the door, and then she, like, shakes her head and then nods up to upstairs and just, like, rolls her eyes. Like, that's, like, not a nice way to walk into a place.

Ronnie (9:54)

I wish she lived there. I wish that waitress lived in the house. That would make it ten times more interesting.

Ben (9:59)

I know.

Ronnie (9:59)

Hey. Hey, it's you, honey. All right, come on in here. You just wait in here. It's the lobby. It's really the living room. I just call it the lobby. So what you doing today, toots?

Ben (10:11)

Hey, Maddie, your piece of meat is here. Hey, you want.

Ronnie (10:16)

We're making tattoos with toothpicks and food dye. Wait, what do you want me to make on you?

Ben (10:23)

So Joe's like, she's sleeping zero nights at my house downtown, which is, like, literally three blocks away from Republic, so. And Brad's like, well, why is that? I don't know. I'm gonna whiff this, too, by the way. This ball. So just stop talking. Okay, so Brad basically is saying that he understands why Joe is complaining, but he also thinks that Joe does whatever Maddie says. And, like, you know, if Joe said. If Maddie says, jump, Joe says, how high, Mommy? And he's gonna go, so who wears the pants in the relationship? I think we all know.

Ronnie (10:57)

And so then we go back to the nail salon, and Maddie's like, I mean, he's, like, ready to buy a house together. And I'm just like, whoa. Like, whoa, this is moving too fast, you know? And then I'm, like, looking at houses. And he's like, but if we go. And Mia's just like, no, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Don't ever depend on a man. And she's like, exactly. Because, like, he could, like, you over or leave you, like, at any moment. You know what I mean? I mean, you know, the last time I was able to ride a bike attached to, like, a box with wheels on it. Like, it's really hard. It's really been hard.

Ben (11:30)

She's like, yeah, like, don't put all your eggs in one basket. And Mia's like, wow, you. Your DJ career must be doing really well if you can afford eggs. Like, yeah. So Mia's like, it's outrageous that Joe and Maddie have been dating for four months. I mean, he wants to buy a house get fake married. And it's just, like, too much. So then Maddie is like, I just. I also just, like, don't have time to, like, move or, like, buy a house or, like, go house hunting right now. Like, I'm about to go on tour. Do you know how busy I am? Do you know how hard it is practicing pressing play on my CD player? It's, like, really hard.

Ronnie (12:06)

And she's like, wait, are you taking him on the road? And she's like, oh, my God. Well, there's definitely going to be times where, like, he's going to have to, like, hang back, you know.

Ben (12:18)

Not putting words in anyone's mouth. But do you think that, like, maybe he's a little bit jealous of your career? Oh, my God. Fucking hell. I feel like he's ready for his career growth as soon as he finds a career. And Maddie is. I'm sorry, Mia is saying, like, Maddie's pumping the brakes, but I need to hear her to her to pull the emergency handle because Joe obviously sees Maddie as rising, and he's got nothing going on.

Ronnie (12:41)

So Joe's like, well, I don't want to say that, like, Maddie's, like, being selfish because, like, I just think she's like, she doesn't know she's being so. She's, like, being selfish, but, like, she doesn't know about it. It's like, secret selfish. It's like a secret selfish. And Brad's like, maybe you could meet in the middle. You know, maybe if you go to Daniel island, then she could spend three days downtown or something. She doesn't want to. She doesn't want to stay in Joe's apartment downtown. She go home.

Ben (13:08)

Yeah. And Will's like, yeah, I mean, you. Well, you just need to, like, ask her to spend more time at your place. If driving is the problem. I mean, you can come stay with me and Emmy. In fact, like, you know where you could, like, if you crash with me and Emmy, you could literally sleep directly in between me and Emmy. Like, just, like, be like a wall. You're like a human wall in our bed. Like, we'll totally be down with that.

Ronnie (13:28)

Then if I get up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom, you could just, like, keep guard. Also, I don't think that Joe. I don't think it's the driving. I think they're missing the point. Joe doesn't like going out there because she's with five other girls. He doesn't like sharing her with all the people in the apartment. You know, at least it is Effort.

Ben (13:48)

It is time and effort. And, like, sometimes you just want. Like, if you. If you could just go home, it's three blocks away, but you have to get an Uber and drive for 30 to 40 minutes. Like, that's. I mean, if someone made me go out to Santa Monica from Hollywood every single night of the week, I mean, first of all, I would never date that person, though. That's an awful, awful person. But that's the point. Like.

Ronnie (14:10)

Like.

Ben (14:10)

Like, at some points, you want to say, hey, can you come to Hollywood instead?

Ronnie (14:13)

Because you're geographically undesirable. That's what they call it. Okay, But I think the deeper issue here is that she doesn't really want to be with him on online. She'd rather, like, go hang out with his girlfriend.

Ben (14:25)

Her girlfriends, I think she's just not that into him. That's. I think, even the bigger thing that's come out of this.

Ronnie (14:31)

Yeah. So then they're like, so, how's. How are you and Emmy doing?

Ben (14:36)

Well?

Ronnie (14:36)

And he's like, it has not been an easy summer. And then we just see a flashback of Emmy being like, can I ever win? Can I just ever win? All over her face.

Ben (14:51)

It's so great. Bill's like, you know, mistakes were made. Lessons were learned. You know. No, you made mistakes, and you learned no lessons. That's what you have to say. It's like, so for me, I mean, I'm entering a new chapter of my life. Like, I'm going maybe from like, yellow highlighter to pink. I don't know. We're thinking things through, but just, like, more professional and stuff. So my highlighter is gonna have to wear a tie. And I kind of want to, like, get a house and settle down and have a yard and a dog and, like, prove to people that I'm mature by doing mature things without actually growing up. You know, maybe get some kids with someone. I don't know who, but, you know, you know, I want. I want Emmy to live the housewife life. So I'll get her, like, a back house for me and my wife. I don't know, something cool like that.

Ronnie (15:30)

And they're like, so do you actually want the housewife life? He's like, yeah, because, like, she's, like, good at, like, I don't know, taking out trash and making sure cuterie board and cleaning my underwear and stuff like that, you know, like, she'll come to law school and, like, do my laundry. So. Yeah. Like, why wouldn't I want to marry her? I mean. Yeah. Fuck, yeah. I mean, you know, a woman who's stuck in the laundry room can never catch you cheating.

Ben (15:53)

So, yeah, she's like my backup, which is, you know, something that she really likes. When I say that to her, you know, I. I feel like she's really been supporting me through school and I need to pay her back. You know, after all this bullying I've been going through with. With Biff at law school, it's nice to have someone who can make you a charcuterie board at the end of the day.

Ronnie (16:11)

So romantic. And Brad's like, so you're gonna pay her back by marrying her? And she. He's like, yeah, because, you know, like, having a life together, being like, I'll work and cheat you run logistics of our thing and pretend I'm not cheating. You know, it. This just sounds good. You know, she'll be like a car and I'll pump it full of fuel and then I'll rent other cars and pump those as well. But she won't really care because it doesn't affect her mileage. You know what I mean?

Ben (16:36)

Yeah. Like, you know, when you've got like a. Like a plug in hybrid, like, sometimes you get your. You get your fuel from like the. From the socket in the wall, and that's like Emmy, but you only get 30 miles out of it. So then the rest, you have to, you know, use a different power source. That's the gas and that's. That's what happens in the bathroom. So it's pretty cool.

Ronnie (16:53)

So Brad's like, yeah, we're not talking about a car. This is your girlfriend. And I like that. They're. All the relationships on the show so far just brought down to car analogies and just like, what is this, a business deal? This is the most unromantic shit I've ever heard in my life.

Ben (17:12)

So then he does like this robot thing where he's like, we can have platonic family. I will give you ring. It's fucking weird. I'm like, yeah, but you're also asking for the exact same thing from. For Maddie, so.

Ronnie (17:24)

And also, Emmy is kind of into the Stepford Wife thing. Like, that's her goal.

Ben (17:28)

Yeah.

Ronnie (17:28)

So I don't know. It's like, what happened to Vicki, you know, the robot when she grew up, when it's this. She just wants that, you know, she just wants to be like, welcome home, honey. I made charcuterie. This time there is prosciutto from Harris Eaters.

Ben (17:43)

And a larger question. Whatever happened to Vicki Lawrence or Louis? All the Vickies where are they?

Ronnie (17:50)

I was gonna say, I think Vicki Lawrence is doing a one woman show called, like, Mama and Friends.

Ben (17:55)

Is she?

Ronnie (17:56)

But the other one, I don't know. Vicki Lawrence, Wonder Woman show.

Ben (18:04)

What is Vicki Lawrence up to? Wait, I'm gonna ask. AI. What is Vicki Lawrence up to? She attended Pensacon, where she met fans and was interviewed by a digital reporter. She also enjoyed her time in Pensacola, Florida, which she des a charming small town. Well, thank you, AI, for that very specific reference.

Ronnie (18:23)

According to Ticketmaster, she has a show called Vicki Lawrence and Mama My Kind of girl right there. Okay, so Joe's. Joe's like, you need to like, te a little higher about it, cuz. Like, Will, like, it's like, what do you even tea like? Like, come on, man, this isn't law time. It's like tea time. Like, figure out how to tea, bro. And Will's giving him a dirty lick. And he's like, God, who's like, whatever. Like, most condescending prick ever. Like, when I do it back, he's like, oh. Oh. I don't really know the word for hypocrisy, but you guys fill in the blanks. Fill in the blanks.

Ben (19:01)

So then Will messed up his swing, and then they all laugh, and Will's like, I should have teed it down. Damn it. So, yeah, now we go to. It's. Now it's night time and we're in the Republic back room and everyone's coming in to change. And now the back room is like a dressing room. So they're all like, doing their hair and stuff. And Brad is. He's like. He announces that he has to fart. So Joe opens up a locker for Brad to fart into, which he does whatever it was.

Ronnie (19:31)

It was like a beer fridge or something.

Ben (19:32)

It could be all of you.

Ronnie (19:33)

My fridge. Like, put. Put a C on that restaurant. Put a C at the door, please.

Ben (19:39)

Molly is doing her hair, and so her hair is up high. And then they're like, oh, my God. TJ's like, you look like Leah. You look like Leah CEO. And then we see like, side by side of Molly and Leah. And Leah's like, damn right she does look like me. Genuine rockstar, 100%.

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Ronnie (22:10)

So Maddie comes and she's like, ever since Vegas, I feel like Joe's like hitting fast forward. Like now he wants to get married. Like now he thinks we're good. I just wish I had like a remote control and I could press mute or like pause or like end series. I mean I don't know anything like anything on the remote control other than play.

Ben (22:28)

And so Emmy's Emmy is like, okay guys, like I have an announcement. I couldn't go to Will's law school prom, which is technically called the Barrister's Ball. So yeah, just think about that. And I thought what a fun idea to have a republic fun prom, but with legal elements. So it'll be full of lawsuits and torts, but the torts can Actually be like a dessert tour. And we'd be like, that's a tour. And the lawsuits can just be a stack of papers. Anyway, I was just thinking out loud. Law Prom at Republic Guys, what do you think?

Ronnie (23:04)

She's like, yeah, it's gonna be like a prom, but it's gonna be like, adult themed. Which sounds like a porn site. But it's not a porn site. Not that I would know. I don't look at porn either does. Well, like, if we'll look at porn, that would be, like, so traitorous. Which he would never do to me. You would never do that. You guys. Are you suggesting that Will looks at porn? Because that's okay. Now, if anyone wants to figure out who they're gonna ask their dates, you know, you gotta ask your dates. Like, make it cute. You guys, like, ask them in a really, really cute way.

Ben (23:27)

Yeah, I hate cutesy prom invitations. Growing up, that's. This was not a thing for me, by the way. Growing up in Katona, New York in the mid-90s, like, if you wanted to ask someone to prom, you just walked up to them and awkwardly said, will you go to prom with me? But, like, I swear, I don't know if this was something that started in the 2000s or maybe I was sheltered from it, but I feel like it started with Laguna beach on mtv where they would, like, go to a freeway and, like dangle a sign over the freeway that said prom, question mark. And I just feel like ever since then, everyone does these ridiculous things. Was this a thing? Did you go to the prom? Was this, Was this.

Ronnie (24:02)

Of course I didn't go to the prom. Hello? Who are you talking to? No, I did not.

Ben (24:06)

Well, I thought you were gonna be like. I thought you're gonna be like. Well, there was like this lesbian who would wear suspenders and we'd go. We just had to go to the prom and just like, curse at all the people or something.

Ronnie (24:17)

The only lesbian I knew in town was my Aunt Josie, who ran the bowling alley in my dad's property management company and walk around with this gigantic chain of keys on her polyester suit pants, and she had, like a big gray fro. I wasn't asking anybody to prom, I'll tell you that much. So, no, there was no problem for me. There was no problem.

Ben (24:35)

Theoretical. My theoretical situation still remains. You and Aunt Josie going to the prom and making fun of people.

Ronnie (24:41)

So get over here. I'm going to show you what prominent is. But no, I didn't go to the prom. But, yeah, I do Think that people asked them, asked each other in creative ways to go.

Ben (24:52)

I just never liked it. I just feel like it's so ridiculous.

Ronnie (24:54)

So I was like, that is so heteronormative. Even though I'm not gay and I don't know what heteronormative means, but I was like, gross. Knights and white sacks. Satin. No. How about Ronnie's in bed watching Factory Runs in white satin? No.

Ben (25:13)

I love that.

Ronnie (25:14)

My favorite movie back then was Carrie, you know, except I felt like I would have been the one covered in blood. But it would have been awesome to make everything fly around and hit people.

Ben (25:22)

Yeah. You still haven't seen the substance, right?

Ronnie (25:25)

No, but you told me the ending in yesterday's recap, so thanks.

Ben (25:28)

What did I say? And I didn't say the ending.

Ronnie (25:30)

I'm not repeating it.

Ben (25:31)

It.

Ronnie (25:32)

Because I spoil somebody else.

Ben (25:34)

I said nothing in the recap about the ending.

Ronnie (25:37)

Yes, you did. It's spoiled. It's dead to me. I'm never watching that movie again. So then we go to. We go back and Emmy's like, okay, get creative about how you're gonna ask your dates. I'm gonna write, will you go to prom with me? And mascara all over my face. But it's not really going to be big letters until I start crying. And will you go to. Wrong. It's gonna work. Can I just win? Can I just win? So Molly's like, why are we celebrating this man's accomplishments? Give me a break. And, like, it's like, yeah, like a problem's, like, as fancy as, like, he says it is. Then, like, she should hire a bathroom attendant and maybe some spies for Will.

Ben (26:20)

And then we go to the Republic back room, back again. And Brad is like, can we vote on prom king and queen? Yeah. And I mean, he's like, that's brillian. That's so smart. Okay, I'll just say in advance, Will and I do accept this honor. Thank you very much, everyone. It's. It's. It's so. It's so great being a king and queen, but we will treat everyone like not like our subjects, but like we're equals. Okay, thank you so much, everyone.

Ronnie (26:41)

Michaels comes in and he's like, hey, everybody. Everybody looks so pretty. We have a big party coming in tonight. It's Joe Bradley's friend, so watch out, because you know this is gonna be douchey. It's all, get on the floor. Okay, Wear gloves. Wear gloves if you got them. The rubber the better.

Ben (27:01)

Well, the big group coming in, guys. They're actually like my good friends from Atlanta, and they're all very successful lawyers. So, like, I know about lawyers also. And then he's like, ooh, do they go to prom? Mike's like, okay, guys, so let's try to keep the vibes up and have a good night. And they're like, okay. So now it's like, party time. People coming in, but Tommy, Bahamas, cargo shorts, all the fun stuff. And Joe's like, hey, look who it is. Successful lawyer friends. Hi, everyone. What's going on? Hey, that's my boy from Atlanta. He's a. He's a legend. Yeah, yeah, he's good. He's cool. Yeah.

Ronnie (27:38)

Welcome, legends. So they all go in and they're like, half hot. I mean, I could use a lawyer. So I didn't go to prom. So then we go to. We see Ally is there too, and she's really pretty. And that's Austin's girlfriend. So of course, TJ is just behind the bar, like, shifty eyes, like, hm. So I see that someone has a girlfriend here. H, interesting.

Ben (28:01)

A girlfriend.

Ronnie (28:03)

He's vacuuming the top of the bar. He's like, h, huh.

Ben (28:06)

Yeah. So Emmy's like, hi. Hey, what's going on? Hi, Ally. You look so good. She's like, so do you. And TJ is like, huh. H, it's extremely weird that Emmy is buddying up to Ally right now when both of her and will believe her brother is the one starting all these quote unquote rumors. And let me add to that.

Ronnie (28:27)

So the producer asks Emmy if she's met Ali, and she's like, well. Well, yeah, her and my mom have been Bible study friends, like, for years. So, yeah, we know each other. And so she hugs her and she's like, good to see you, babe. Good to see you. And Ellie's like, you, too. You too. We just cut to TJ size, like.

Ben (28:49)

So.

Ronnie (28:49)

Then in the kitchen, Joe's like, okay, guys, it's our last big table, so we need, like, all the girls in here. Like, I want all the girls in here. It's like, big. It's like lawyer big. Okay? Those are like, icons. Those are legends out there. Not in the gateway. They're not like mother icon. They're like legend icons. All right, they're the men. They're men. They're the men, Joe.

Ben (29:06)

Okay, here's the thing, Joe. Leah CEO said that there should be a girl out on the floor at all times. So I sent Siobhan out there. Okay, Joe, relax. Oh, my God. Too much Joe.

Ronnie (29:17)

He's like, well, the highest spending table is like $3,000. And like, they need the most service. That's how. Joe, we are giving you a 12 year old to go to their table. 12 year olds say hello. And he's like, hi, I'm lighting sparklers. Just like this little baby work at this place. I love it. They got him out of the Old Navy factory and shipped him to this restaurant for a night job.

Ben (29:36)

He's just like, I know, Joe, stop being a dick. I'm not. I'm just saying how it works. So Austin is watching and he's like, it's funny watching the newlyweds bicker a little bit. I'm gonna get the popcorn going. I'm just like, listening to the boss. And the boss wants someone on the floor at all times, Joe. So then Siobhan is out there on.

Ronnie (29:55)

The floor, like, Leah's request. Okay? Sorry, she can't be back here catering to you. And cut to Lee out there, like, that's right. One on the floor or one out the door. Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm Leah CEO and I'm not playing.

Ben (30:11)

Look, I'm not, like, catering to me. I just, like, need her catering to my boy from Atlanta. She's like, joe, oh, Siobhan needs to be out there per Leah Aylor, who is above you. So fucking chill, girl on the floor, okay?

Ronnie (30:25)

And he's like, yeah. Leo would be like, hell, yeah. Like, get all the service back at the table. Like, she'd be like, absolutely. And meanwhile, we cut to Leanne. She's like, if I see one more misspelled sign, you're out of here. Do you understand? I'm Leah CEO, not Leah. She don't know I'm watching you.

Ben (30:48)

So Joe's like, well, here's a song, but it's been spelled on purpose. If you're in pain, make it rain. You're spelled. You are. Which is kind of like Egyptian. So then magic Joe, okay, you could take it out by yourself because Siobhan needs to be on the floor, so.

Ronnie (31:04)

By the way, Siobhan also needs to be on my television screen. Why are we not seeing Siobhan? I almost put her on the back of a milk carton the other day in my fridge. Where's Siobhan? Where has she been? Why did we dump Siobhan?

Ben (31:14)

Yeah, I agree. So she comes in to help with sparklers, and Siobhan is like, why is no one else back here? And just like, I don't know. It's just like, weird. You know what? Joe Bradley thinks he's the owner, and I have to humble him. That's like the typical thing. I don't know if he has some resentment with me or what, but it's like not a good look at work.

Ronnie (31:35)

Joe, I don't know why you're so mad. I sent Cloris Leachman out there and we cut. And Cloris Leachman's like, hey, boys, the lawyers, huh? So what do you take care of? Have elderly people getting abused? We accidents fall down at work. What kind of lawyers are you?

Ben (31:50)

How.

Ronnie (31:50)

There's many different flavors.

Ben (31:52)

All right, everyone gather around. Who wants to hear some stories about Gene Hackman? So Joe is like, okay, too soon?

Ronnie (32:01)

Is it too soon?

Ben (32:02)

Too soon? It's. It's a memoir. Listen, we're. We're remembering. So Joe is like. He's like, well, we only had one server come back to the three thousand dollar minimum table. And like, you and the other servers, like, refused to come out. Like a horrible look. And they all deserve a vi experience. And I'm just like, I keep telling everyone, like, why you keep making like, while you keep making money from them, I'll just keep serving you. Like, that's like, not a good look as, like a leader of the company.

Ronnie (32:27)

And we just cut to TJ going, well, I guess the honeymoon's over.

Ben (32:34)

It's not a good look as the leader of the company to take us away from our tables, Joe. And he's like, I'm not taking it away. It was like two seconds.

Ronnie (32:42)

It's like, talk to the hand Joe. Trucks in the hand Joe. And Michael sees him and he's like, what's going on here? Why are we fighting at work? Like, Leah, CEO is over there. I don't need the king and queen of republic fighting on the floor. You know what I mean? Like, Leah is here. Do you not see Leah? She's currently doing a line of coke off Cloris Leachman's ass. Which is probably not. Probably not by the rules, but anyway, can we just concentrate?

Ben (33:10)

So then the. The child server asked Maddie where Joe is. I don' Child. I don't know where Joe is. And we're like a little like behind right now. So it's like, what the.

Ronnie (33:21)

Can I ask you a question? Is Joey my father?

Ben (33:25)

No.

Ronnie (33:26)

Do you know who my father is? No. Do you know who my mother is? Who put me here? Where am I? Is there a school here?

Ben (33:36)

The child was like, born out of, like, out of like the. The bottom of TJ's Sir Wieners cart. Like the chemicals came together and created like the. It was like you saw like a head, like, emerge from the water. Like, it's like. It was like. It's like species. So Joe's like, I think we're sold out. I think I sold all the tables. And so then they're like, ugh, whatever. And they go out to help and smile and they sell things. So now we go to a tequila bar during the day, and Michaels goes and has a lovely little lunch with his stepfather. So they sit down and his dad. His dad is a stepfather, but really considers him his dad, et cetera. And Michaels explains that Reeve. Well, he calls him Reeve. I think his real. His full name is Rivelino. So talks about his dad was, you know, no longer with his mom anymore. And that Michaels talks about being raised in an Afro Latino background. Coming out as gay was hard because there's so much machismo in the culture that he was raised in and that his stepdad was the only consistent figure that supported him unconditionally.

Ronnie (34:46)

Yeah. He's like, so have you talked to mom? He's like, no. And he's like, yeah, you haven't talked to her? And he's like, you know, he goes, you haven't called her? And he goes, she's called me, but I don't ever call back. So apparently this lady is just a terror to everybody. He's like, no, no, I'm not calling her. So then he tells us basically how his mom found out he was gay. And it's because she went through his phone and found an Instagram DM between DM's thread between him and this guy saying, I love you. And she wouldn't speak to him for a week, and then she never would talk about it after. And so Rive tells Michaels, like, only purse, you know, only pursue men for you. Don't try and find someone to please your mom because nothing is going to please your mom. So don't. Don't even try that.

Ben (35:32)

Okay, so Michaels is like, thank you for the support. Here's a picture of Preston, and his dad is like, okay.

Ronnie (35:40)

Oh, whoa.

Ben (35:41)

Okay. I mean, yes, I fully support you. Fully support you. No, his. His. His stepfather is really very sweet and very supportive. He's so cute too. He's just smiling the whole time.

Ronnie (35:53)

Yeah.

Ben (35:53)

So then now it's time to go to Bourbon and Bubbles. That's right, cuz. Leva sits down with Joe, and Joe is like, I don't know why love ask me here, but, like, maybe even if I'M in trouble, it's okay, because anytime love calls me, I'm like, hell, yeah. Yeah.

Ronnie (36:12)

Just like Leva says, every time they ask her to shoot a scene on the show, she's like, hi, Joe. What's going on? He's like, not much. They've been really good summer. Like, I got extra pop in my stuff because, like, Maddie's helped me a lot with that, you know? Maddie's helped me a lot, you know, because my wife. It's, like, really good to be paired up with someone who's so helpful.

Ben (36:31)

Okay, that's great. By the way, Lamar told me last night that you want to take a month off to go on tour with Maddie. So I. I knew we had to have a chat. You know her DJ career isn't real when we're shooting the show, right? Yeah, no, but, like, I don't want Maddie to travel alone. That's, like, the love of my life. But also, her dreams are happening, so I want to be the support system. Yeah, I know, like, her dreams are happening, but while her dreams are happening, tables need to be bused. So don't sacrifice your career. You're really good at wiping down things.

Ronnie (37:01)

Yeah. You know, like, Joe, like, your career is going to a certain place. Like, me and Lamar, like, we both know if the ice machine's broken, like, you're always there to kick it and make it work again.

Ben (37:12)

Again.

Ronnie (37:13)

So I just feel like I really need you to think about that. He's like, I don't like Maddie being alone. So, like, that's, like, really rough.

Ben (37:21)

Love is like, I know Joe has a bigger idea for himself because he's, like, not motivated at the door anymore. He's kind of getting mopey. And you see him being like, come on in, come on in.

Ronnie (37:33)

Oh, well.

Ben (37:34)

But, you know, if you really want to run a space, you cannot follow Maddie around. You got to chime in. You've got to clock in. You can't take the whole month off. I'm like, look, look, he. He tasted. He got a taste of the sweet life, okay? He banged Countess Luanda Seps, and he knows he could be somewhere in England right now being introduced by Tilda Swinton. So it's hard. It's hard to go back to base life.

Ronnie (37:55)

He got a taste of, like, Benson and Hedges, menthol breath life. He knows. He knows what it could be, and he's like, I just want to build, like, something magic would be, like, you know, like, impressed by. You know, I want she. I want her to, like, hot Me, up, up. You know, like, the other day, I carried an ice. She didn't say anything. How do you think that makes me feel?

Ben (38:16)

So now it's another day, and the Republic garden and patio has been turned into, like, a kitty. A kitty spot, because we've got big yarn balls. Leva brings in a big yarn ball, and we see signs that say, live laugh. Meow. Actually, that's just a joke. So then there's kittens, and Leva tells us there's a problem in South Carolina because there are too many kittens. There are so many kittens that even the kill shelters are having trouble euthanizing. I mean, that's what they always said on Southern charm, that, you know, Charleston just has too much pussy, which is why the men get to have all the choices. Hey, yo. Hey.

Ronnie (38:56)

That's terrible, though. All the kill shelters are even having to kill now.

Ben (38:59)

I mean, my God, you know, non kill shelter shelters. Yeah, yeah.

Ronnie (39:03)

The non kill shelters are. Are not. Are having to kill now. That's crazy.

Ben (39:07)

All those sweet little kittens.

Ronnie (39:11)

So they, you know, there's cats every place, which, I don't know, sounds bad for a restaurant. A lot of people are allergic to cats. I don't think you want cat dander, but whatever. What? It's not like it's a sparkling clean place to begin with, but no cat shame. But, you know, damn. So Michael's comes, and he's like, oh, my God, I can get my face painted like a cat that I'm so doing that.

Ben (39:34)

Yeah. So he sits down, he gets like, a little, like, little nose and whiskers, which is good, because he spends the rest of the episode being very somber and, like, pulling people for advice with a little cat face on. So Michaels is like, so, by the way, Lake, can we have a talk, please? So I had a chance to talk with my dad, and I, like, kind of want to tell you about it so I can maybe give you some advice to do the same with your dad. Dad. She's like, what do you want me to say to my dad? Well, it's like, not really what I want you to say. It's just like, what I want. Like, it's just what you know, what you want to say. So basically, I don't want to say this to my mom, but I want you to say this to your dad. So I'm just gonna let you know what you have to say.

Ronnie (40:15)

Yeah. I mean, look, back off. This is her business. Everyone has the right to come out how they want to come out. I don't like, I mean, I get that he's just trying to be helpful and being like, you'll feel better once you've actually, you're living your truth, but that's up to her.

Ben (40:29)

Yep. And you're also, like, you have a cat face on. He's like, meow. Can I tell you what you should say?

Ronnie (40:39)

It's like, the one minute your mom would be happy, you're covered in.

Ben (40:44)

Like. It's like, why is everyone so concerned about my dad? Like, I'm glad you had a conversation with your dad. I just think it's great you. But, like. And I want to hear about it, but I'm just, like, not ready. So now people are like, adapt, adopt. Not adapting. Kittens. They're adopting kittens and stuff. And then people are, like, walking in, etc. And TJ's like, Joe and Maddie come in, and TJ's like, oh, I didn't know you guys were coming. Guess I guess, I guess the old TJ doesn't get text messages anymore saying, we're coming.

Ronnie (41:13)

So. Great.

Ben (41:13)

Thanks so much for that.

Ronnie (41:15)

Well, it seems like two hours to get here from Downhill island, so we were late. Sorry, everybody. About geographically fucked, am I right?

Ben (41:23)

Maddie, come with me. I want to talk with you. So Michaels takes Maddie to the side, and he's like, what the hell was that? She goes, yeah, Joe and I were fighting, and, like, he was talking shit about Grace. And I feel like he was, like, trying to turn her against me. And then so we see the fight.

Ronnie (41:40)

And he's like, I mean, it's just, like, hard because, like, you're giving, like, 99% to a friendship and you're only getting, like, 1% back. And it's like, crazy. 1% is generous. And she's like, I can assure you there have been times in our relationship, like, where she's been giving 90% and I've been giving 10%. So you know what, Joe? It's just how it works until you've really, like, spent time in Mexico with somebody, you really don't understand.

Ben (42:03)

Oh, I've never seen grace give you 90%, so. Oh, yeah, well, last year. But you wouldn't know because you weren't fucking around. Joe. So Matt, now back to president. Maddie's like, now my friendship is being, like, affected because he's, like, trying to defend me. It's, like, borderline suffocating, and I can defend myself. He just, like to trust my judgment. Michael's just staring at her, like, do you feel like you can be more Open with me now that I'm dressed like a kitty cat.

Ronnie (42:28)

And now Grace and her mom Tracy are there and cats. Oh my God. Honey, maybe this is your big moment. You have a song about cats you could sing. I believe in you.

Ben (42:41)

So yeah, they're. They're there and I just love. I'm so glad they brought Grace, brought her mom because I love Grace's mom because she's basically like. Grace and her mom just kind of try to look like each other, which is like my favorite thing. Like, like Tracy tries to be like the cool mom, but then Grace is the kind of daughter that's like, my mom is just the best. They're just like this power duo. Power duo of an anatomy.

Ronnie (43:06)

How many people can say they've danced on tables naked with their mom and Talene?

Ben (43:13)

So Joe is saying in a confessional, like, seeing you succeed. I said, by the way, way. Sorry, tj. Just want you to know, seeing you succeed as an entrepreneur and like seeing Maddie killing it and like Bradley, like doing something just makes me realize, like, I need to focus on my career path. Cuz I never thought that like, loving someone too much could have so many repercussions. I'm just like too nice of a guy.

Ronnie (43:38)

Well, you know, you have to have your own things, right? Like it can't just be the relationship, right? I mean, you know, like for me, I have to think beyond relationships, which is why I started a hot dog company. Because I used to call my ex boyfriends Sir Wiener. Used to call his penis Sir Wieners. I'm realizing how up this sounds actually now. Hey, at least I'm almost paid off.

Ben (44:01)

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Ben (45:06)

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Ronnie (45:12)

We're going to try another.

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Ronnie (45:24)

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Ronnie (45:38)

At the time, I was paranoid. Threats, you touch my kids, I will kill you. And murder with a.22 caliber bullet to the head.

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What started with a scheme to mislabel wine spilled into a blood soaked battle for succession. Welcome to Bloodvines. You can binge listen to Blood Vines exclusively and ad free on Wondery. Join Wondery in the Wondery app, Apple podcasts or Spotify. Grace. Grace, are you gonna get a kitten? I don't know. You know, they're not like purebred. And I'm still kind of grieving Fergie.

Ronnie (46:17)

I only want a purebred, stupid purebred kid. And we are reminded of the kidnapped cat storyline where she kidnapped a cat from her ex boyfriend and I guess he got that cat back.

Ben (46:29)

I guess so.

Ronnie (46:30)

She's like a hashtag, hashtag free fur.

Ben (46:34)

I'll be honest, like after Vegas, I was like super hurt. She goes, and I genuinely apologize for being late to your set because. No, but on the real, like, I'm not mad about you being late. I'm like happy that you even showed up. To be honest. I mean, do you really think I'm that bad of a friend that I was gonna miss your set? It's like, yes, actually. Yes, we do.

Ronnie (46:54)

And she's like, I haven't seen you at your best lately, Grace Lily. Well then you haven't been watching my tick tock because I've been hula hooping my hookers off. Okay, get on over there, girl. Who's stopping? Did I not tell you that I went to dinner with Bob Marley and Jesus? Did you know that Jesus doesn't even know what a rollerblade is? I said I like to rollerblade. And he said, roller skate. I said, blade, what kind of Jesus are you? Re Hang him.

Ben (47:22)

I said, you made this. So Grace is like, we don't even hang out of this group together. And Maddie is like, yeah, because you Oshin. I mean, I wish I never did that. Because, you know, he was wrong. I like it's hard. I've now put myself in a corner and I just want to get out of the corner. I never should have fucked Oisin. Not cuz it hurts someone, but because now no one wants to talk to me. So that was bad.

Ronnie (47:47)

I still get sick every time I smell day old milk.

Ben (47:54)

You know, hooking up with Oisin was not worth what has transpired and what it's cost me. For instance, things. Do you know that ever since I hooked up with him, I have not been able to find my Subway rewards card. That's a whole free Subway sandwich I'm now not getting. That's costing me a lot.

Ronnie (48:10)

You know what you need to do, Grace? Lily, Swallow your pride. Haven't I swallowed enough?

Ben (48:17)

All right, Take accountability. Have you not taken swallowing enough? Okay, you can only do it once. It only works with one of the words. Okay, sorry. I was trying to make it a thing.

Ronnie (48:26)

Okay. I want to apologize to Eva, our friend no Perrone, because I met her when I was doing ayahuasca once and that is one bad bitch. You know, there's a musical written about her.

Ben (48:38)

I did cry for her and she got real mad about it though. So then somebody's like, well, the group has given me a hard time, but they haven't seen the times. You know, you give me 90% and I give you 10%, but I sometimes, you know, And I give you. Sometimes I give you 10%, sometimes I give you 90, you give me 10. Like that's what we do. We're girlfriends. I'm a DJ. You're the talent. Let's hug. LOL.

Ronnie (49:03)

So they hug and make up. And then now Michael's is sitting with Lake and petting kittens and stuff. And he's like, you seem low energy. It's like, yeah, you. You're saying that I know Michaels.

Ben (49:23)

Michael's the most Michaels, who came very close to being un monotone once. You're very low energy.

Ronnie (49:32)

She's like, yeah, ain't that a freedo calling a leg corny.

Ben (49:37)

There's like a lot of expectations that come with being a rocker. I mean, you know, when you're related to the star of Hootie and the Blowfish, just like there's a lot of pressure on your shoulders. And if respecting my family and grandparents and their legacy, I just. I'm gonna be more conservative about my consexuality and my fluidity.

Ronnie (49:54)

And he's like, well, even if you don't have a conversation out, your family will come around if you do have it in the future. She's like, yeah, I'm gonna have a conversation with my family when they're dead and I have my money on my inheritance. How about that? How about grandma can get a conversation when I'm spending her money and she's in the grave. Thanks.

Ben (50:12)

I love you. I love you so much. Like, I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. So then Lake leaves with Shelby, her lady friend. And then it's another day. The sun has risen over the Ravenel Bridge, a bridge that was actually shaped in the form of Thomas Ravenel's tempting fingers. So Maddie and Joe are doing their morning routine, and we see TJ and he goes into his mail room, his package room, to get some packages, but he leaves his phone in there. And then he's like, oh, my God, I left my phone in there. Can't get back in. And then we just. We don't get any resolution. I want to know how that was. I want to know how he got his phone back.

Ronnie (50:55)

So then we go over to Austin's house, and he's having date night with Ally. And he's like, yeah, this relationship has started again. I'm, like, so happy to have her back. Cuz, like, I made some mistakes, you know, Like I. I said mean things. Yeah, actually, I, like, lied about a few things. So tell me.

Ben (51:13)

Just to get an emotional rise. Yeah. Like what? What? What? Excuse me. That is the most toxic thing. He's. He just skated right by with that one.

Ronnie (51:24)

It's weird because there's so many stories there. You know what I mean? Like, what did. What do you mean? You lied? So are you saying that you. I'm getting, like. You cheated on you? You cheated on her? But then you said. No, I was just saying I cheated on you to get a rise out of you. Or. I don't know what his deal is, but he's a weirdo, and I can't wait to find out. Out.

Ben (51:41)

Yeah, Seriously. He's like, I got. I got some work to do before I make things right. And so then pizza arrives, and there's like. Austin's like. He's got, like. The pizza has, like, pepperoni on it, and it just looks like a strange arrangement. Pepperoni. But if you look at it closely, there's like, maybe a P and an R. And like, you know, Ali doesn't think anything of it, so he has the leader. He's like, hey, look, look at that pepperoni. Is that that, Is that a P and an R and an O? And she's like, no, I don't know what this is. I don't know what this is leading to, but I'm not going to accept it. I'm going to make you have to spell out the whole thing because I refuse to accept that you're asking, but.

Ronnie (52:23)

I don't know how accept my limitations. So it's a prominent bite. So the most. Look, I think this is real love because they're eating carbs in front of each other. So to gay people, that's like marriage. So then we go to the Republic patio and TJ has his sir we're dinners stand up and he's making hot dogs. And Mia comes in to visit and he's like, yeah, after the success of launch, like, I get to come here like once a month. It's amazing. Almost paid off.

Ben (52:53)

Yay. So Mia comes by and she's gonna have. She's like, this is my only meal of the day. It's a Miss World competition somewhere. So. So he's like really happy to. To grow. And he presents Mia with three hot dogs and the mustard on it says prom with me, which, you know, I really enjoy this. We have a. We have a pizza. A pizza prom and a hot dog prom invitation. And I'm gonna give it to the hot dogs because the pizza one was sloppy, but hot dogs also sloppy but more legible. So good job, dj. You win.

Ronnie (53:26)

Amia says, I mean, if there were rumors circulating that my boyfriend cheated, I would not be throwing him prom. I. I'd be throwing him a left hook. That's right. I'm back. So then Mia and TJ are talking about Emmy and he's like, well, she's been like blowing me up the past few weeks. I mean, like, she wants to hang out. And Taylor told me that she said bad stuff. So I'm not really sure, like, she'll text me non stop if I don't text her back right away. I'm not a peep from Will. Not a peep. I can understand because we're such good friends. As you'll see in the next two minutes. In the next scene when I try and reignite his cheating rumors again. Yet again.

Ben (54:06)

Yeah, seriously. So he says, it's been like very surface level, borderline guilty vibe since Vegas. So then Will enters with a bouquet of balloons and they like, one balloon has a P on it, one has an R, one has an O, one has an M that he's written out in Sharpie. But since the balloons are going in all different directions, it's like, unclear. Hear what's going on? And they have on. On the screen the all the letters scrambling and swirling around. And he's like, I want to lean into the cheesiness of this since, you know, you've been working so hard to put together this. Prom also was a really good use case for my highlighter.

Ronnie (54:42)

So it's like, oh, my God, you guys, I just got balloons. And they say it's something and it's amazing. I'm going to prom. I'm going to prom with Will. So then everybody is like, wow, Will's putting effort into this relationship. What the hell? And TJ's like, I mean, he could have just showed up with like roses and she would have said yes.

Ben (55:04)

He's like, to be fair, I was just trying to write the word romp. But she read it as prom. So Emmy's like, it's the thought that counts. I love it. And I know you think about me all the time, right? That's why you cheat on me, because you're thinking of me. And that's the thought. The thought that counts. Huh? So then everyone's just side eyeing Will, and Emmy's like, he just asked me to prom. Oh my God, guys, he just asked me to prom. I can't believe this happened. So then she's telling customers they really don't care. So now we're at a running path and Brad is leading a running group called let's Run Charleston. And he's basically, it's like his. Because his side gig is doing fitness stuff and everything. So TJ and Austin are there and Brad is saying that it started off with just like a few 50 runners, and now it's like a huge thing, you know? And we see that Austin is. Is. Does not have sneakers on. He's going to run barefoot, which is like.

Ronnie (55:55)

He's like, yeah, you can be like really close to the earth by running barefoot. Oh, my God. You can also be close to tetanus, you stupid.

Ben (56:03)

You can get close the emergency room with those stitches you'll need soon.

Ronnie (56:06)

Yeah, he's dumb.

Ben (56:08)

Step on broken glass.

Ronnie (56:09)

He does it and he runs it. He's like, it's like soul fulfilling. Yeah, just what Buddha wanted. Running over dirty needles and, you know, condoms. Sounds great. Yeah. So after. We're really here to talk shit. Of course. Right. So tj, Austin and Brad sit down and they're like, let's talk about prom. Okay. So are you gonna bring Ally and make out with her in the bathroom? And Brad's like, I thought that was just a Will thing.

Ben (56:34)

Yeah, well, Will thinks the whole rumor stitch is, like, being bull. Like, thinks it's because it's like Will thinks that, like, he's saying that he's being bullied by Ally's brother and Austin's like, I don't personally believe that it had anything to do with Ali or her brother. And to hear that Will even had Ali's name in his mouth immediately pisses me off. I mean, her and I are, like, trying to rekindle things, and the last thing she's gonna do is bring some drama into our dynamic. I'm currently not on good terms with any of Ali's family. They do not fuck with me. So I'm not having, like, conversations with any of Ali's people right now. So we'll just jump to conclusions. This isn't high school. This is law school. No one cares that much about you, Will.

Ronnie (57:18)

Then that means that Will lied again. Let's get him, everybody. I'm gonna find out who this girl is. I can't just sit on this. I know. I'm not gonna know how this is gonna end until I end it. I'm getting him. Jeez.

Ben (57:30)

What the hell?

Ronnie (57:31)

Just a minute ago you're like, why Won't Will be my friend? And now you're like, I'm gonna ruin.

Ben (57:35)

His fucking life Now, Look, I. I believe Austin. I believe that Will is cheating. But that being said, while you're building your case, don't have an aside where you talked about how you made some up during your breakup with your girlfriend. You lied just to get a rise out of her. Because that's not going to help your case on this show when you. You're telling the story about how Will was in law school. Because now you've just admitted that you actually Will are willing to lie to achieve a goal. So that's not great.

Ronnie (58:07)

But I don't think anybody expects anything different from this band. I don't think anybody is going to be surprised or really care that Austin is a liar.

Ben (58:16)

Yeah, but that was it. Now we have. I'm still so upset about that now. So that's the end. This week is actually going to be the season finale. That was quick. 10 episode season, I think. But we'll see what happens. Yeah. At the prom. At the law prom.

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All right, everybody, thanks so much for being with us today. We will see you tomorrow. Bye.

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