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Ronnie Karam
One of the reasons we love watching Bravo shows is for the luxury.
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Ben Mandelker
I mean, come on.
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Ronnie Karam
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, most of the time I can just watch it for the shots of the gorgeous city and the houses.
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Grace
And let's not Forget Lisa Barlow's $60,000 ring that she lost.
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Ben Mandelker
Oh, heck yeah.
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Ronnie Karam
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Grace
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Ronnie Karam
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Grace
I am so excited to go on my first Virgin cruise. You know, the idea of a kid free ship is very appealing to me. And all these menus, it's like definitely a boat made for Ben.
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Ronnie Karam
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Grace
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Grace
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Ben Mandelker
Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all the crap we love to talk about on Y brs. This is Crappy Hour Live. I'm Ronnie, and that's Ben over there. Hi, Ben.
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Grace
Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?
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Ben Mandelker
Good. What's going on with you?
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Grace
Oh, you know, just recovering from those Oscars last night. I had such an amazing time at the not Vanity Fair party, and it was just like. I just felt like I was around so many not celebrities in my. In my living room. So it's just like I'm a little hungover from all the. All the intense hobnobbing with my pillows and. And my. And my tables. How about you? How are you doing?
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Ben Mandelker
You're just at the straight up vanity party. Yeah, I did not watch the Oscars because I'm just becoming that old man who's like, who are these people? What are these movies? Why is everybody so young? I don't understand. I don't even know what half those movies are. I mean, what the hell? Where's La La Land?
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Grace
Yeah, well, you know, it was a year ago that I was at your house in Austin and we watched the Oscars together. Remember that?
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Ben Mandelker
We did.
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Grace
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
I need some inspiration. Like, I need you to be here to watch it with, because you make it fun. When I'm just. When I'm alone, I'm like, oh, shut up. Shut up about your cause. I don't care about your cause. Take your cause. Suck it.
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Grace
I feel like I'm a fun Oscar watcher with her, you know, because my friends Judy and Matt and AJ Came over, and none of them were really interested in watching the Oscars, but I was like, guys, I'm gonna watch the Oscars. So they. And we had a really fun time watching it together. I feel like I inspire good Oscar watching times.
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Ben Mandelker
You are fun to watch Oscars with, for sure. We ripped that thing to shreds. We had a really good time watching that. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't watch any of that. I did watch White Lotus, however, and Married to Medicine and those. Those things, you know, the real classy. The real classy. The real top class shows. All right, everybody, welcome to the show. Today in Bravo News. I don't. I can never tell if a lot's going on really, or nothing's going on because it's Bravo. You know, I guess the news is what you make of it? Ben just told me that the New York strip steak has been changed to the Texas.
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Grace
Well, no, as the. The Texas governor, AKA your governor, has just declared that he is thinking about renaming the Texas. The New York strip stake into the Texas strip steak. Which just goes to show that, like, I'm glad the politicians in this country are really prioritizing the things that matter the most. So, you know, it's. It's an exciting day.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Glad they can double property taxes every year and spend the money where we really need it renaming stakes.
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Grace
I know, I know. But the. Yeah, it's just, you know, the headlines, the real headlines are way too depressing to read. But luckily, Bravo headlines continue to be as, like, as stupid as ever. For instance, did you know that Pen Stiller watches the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills with his daughter? I mean, is that not heartwarming? I mean, they should change it from the Texas drip steak to the Ben Stiller strip steak, because that is a delicious headline.
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Ben Mandelker
I. I did see that the other day when I was, you know, doing my morning duties. I. That was the first thing I read. And I thought it was kind of a joke because his tweet, something like, thank God Doritos and Kyle have taken time to come together on something they really understand or, like, a common. Common thing or what? I don't know. His tweet was, like, just. It wasn't funny. It was just like, wow, you know, I'm glad that Dorit and Kyle are getting along. And I thought it was kind of a joke, but I didn't really get the joke, so I didn't really understand it. So I just kind of put it off. And then everybody in the Bravo verse got very excited that Ben Stiller was a fan.
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Grace
So, yeah, he watches it with his daughter Ella, which is kind of funny because I don't know why. Like, I feel like if my last name were Stiller, I wouldn't have my first. My daughter's name be Ella. Ella Stiller. That just is, like, a little. It doesn't roll off the tongue, right? Ella Stiller. Ella Stiller.
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Ben Mandelker
Oh, that reminded me. I have to tell you about my TaskRabbit. Okay. So on the show, I talked about wanting to bang my TaskRabbit. Okay. And I didn't know the TaskRabbit. I just hired him, and I was. It was basically a piece on loneliness. Okay. So the TaskRabbit comes. He's hot as hell. Of course he's hot. Is he really? And so, yeah, he was really Hot and married, of course, you know, So I shaved my nuts for nothing. But I was like, hey. He asked me what I did. So I told him, and he's like, oh, those housewives Jose. He was from Minnesota. He's like, those housewives, Jose. Oh, my wife loves those, you know, So I watch them all, because I watch them with my wife. And I said, really? And I said, you're a good husband. You know, we meet a lot of housewives. Husband, like housewives watchers, husbands. In our line, you're always the most supportive husbands. He goes, well, to be truthful with you, I'm mostly watching for myself. You know what? I love the fashions. I just love the fashions. No, this guy. So I was like, okay, well, tell your wife to listen. And then when he walked out the door, I was like, well, maybe not this week, because I think I spent the week talking about wanting to fuck you. But Anyway, great job, TaskRabbit. So it's nice to know there's some handyman out there really enjoying the fashions. And he goes, you know, I gotta work a lot of extra shifts because she loves those fashions so much. So, you know, handyman's wife out there buying her fake cc's to put on her shirt. I loved that.
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Grace
I love it. Listen, you'll know if he reaches out to you and says, need any more work done, that means he listened, you know.
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Ben Mandelker
Okay. So something else fun that happened was Anna Marie is still spouting off all over the Internet because this time she had a reason. Because Garcelle, when they went to that caviar party on Beverly Hills, saw a woman named Anne Marie's place card and said, oh, God, I hope it's not the other one. And so Anna Marie, of course, had to make herself known. And she said, wow. Surprised she hasn't left the country yet. Which I guess because Trump won or something. Is that what she means?
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Grace
Maybe.
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Ben Mandelker
I don't know.
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Grace
I don't know. I think she's making a really. Trying to have a moment.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, she really is. And then another one was so she. She's so jealous that I have everything in life that she doesn't. I live in her mind rent free.
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Grace
Yeah, I like someone on Twitter was basically, someone said it very well. They. They said, I believe, said something like, is that an 8.5 coming after a 10? I think that's. I think that sums it up quite well. Don't even try, Anne Marie.
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Ben Mandelker
It truly does. Yeah. Don't. Don't try. And Garcel Responded with an Instagram story that said not all skin folk are kinfolk.
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Grace
And then the next story, Black Girl.
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Ben Mandelker
Missing 27, coming soon Theaters near you.
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Grace
Also describes Anne Marie's second season of Beverly Hills. Yeah, yeah, Emory, your 15 minutes are over. You can't complain about how, like, it was such a bad experience and then you were constantly jumping in whenever you can to make yourself relevant into the Real Housewives discussion. You're done. You're over, and you suck.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, go away, lady. I'm searching right now. Karen Huger jail. Because I could have sworn I saw something today that was like, what it's like for Karen Huger in prison. Dun, dun, dun. What do you think it's like in there?
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Grace
I don't know. It's wild to think that Karen Huger is currently in prison as we speak. Like, she is there. She might be going into, like, the cafeteria with a little red plastic tray and, like, some bowls and getting slop poured in or whatever, and she's just there without her wig, without her makeup, just dealing with crazy people that she would never, ever come close to in Potomac. Like, it's. It's a surreal thought when you really think about it.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, she's probably in there. Like, can I have the slop without cream? I'm not eating dairy right now. Very, very bad chicken. I don't eat Dirty Bird. No Dirty Bird for me.
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Grace
I wonder. I mean, how does. What is the deal with allergies in jail? Do the jails care, or do they just say, like, well, if you don't eat chicken, you can't eat. You're just not having dinner tonight? I feel like they don't make too many accommodations for prisoners when it comes to allergies, right?
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Ben Mandelker
I have no idea. I mean, I feel like we're in a softer world, so maybe they would, you know.
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Grace
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
Prison just ain't as hard as it used to be. Do you have a job in prison?
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Grace
Yeah, I said, do you have any Texas skirt stakes in prison?
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Ben Mandelker
I refuse to eat a New York strip. Please only bring me Texas strip. Thank you. Speaking of restaurants in trouble, like the prison restaurant system for serving Dirty Bird love. And Lamar opened a new restaurant, and it's called Zachary Daiquiri's, which already. First of all, can we just start with that? What'd you say?
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Grace
First of all? I said, first of all, I hate this Zachary Daiquiris. Second of all, is this. This. If this isn't a gay bar, and then I'll be. Then I'm gonna be even more angry. Because this is the name that's reserved for gay bars. I'm sorry to say that's. It's a gay bar name. And if you've stolen it from us, that's just not right. That's not fair.
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Ben Mandelker
I feel like even gay people have, like, straightened up beyond naming things. Zachary's Daiquiris. I mean, what the fuck is that? What the fuck kind of name is that, Zach? And do we need a daiquiri restaurant? I don't think we need a daiquiri. When was the last time you ordered a daiquiri or heard somebody order a daiquiri?
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Grace
Well, I mean, the truth is like a proper daiquiri. This is gonna be such a Ben moment. But, like, a proper daiquiri is not what we think of when we think of daiquiris. I think we think of like big red fr. Frozen strawberry drinks. But a proper daiquiri is just like lime and rum, and they're very delicious and very chill. But I guarantee that's not the drink that's being served in Zachary daiquiri. So to get to your point, the answer is we do. We don't need this. We don't need. We don't need daiquiris. We don't need Zachary, and we don't need Zachary Daiquiris.
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Ben Mandelker
Well, now, you know, I'm, it's. I'm part part of the way with Leva. I never know where I am with Leva. Usually she makes me crazy because she come on, she comes on these shows and does nothing and, like, doesn't even want to be there and is continually continuously rewarded with shit like her own show. So that kind of bugs me. But on the other hand, she believes in child labor. And you know, I love child labor. And have you noticed on Southern Hospitality there's an actual child that works there? Have you noticed that?
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Grace
I did notice that. I was like. I rewound it like three times. I was like, is that a child or is that actually just a young looking lesbian and it was a child. It was a child.
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Ben Mandelker
Young looking lesbian. It's like one of the DJs. No, it's actually a child. Like maybe 12 year old child. Yeah, a young child. He's lighting the fireworks and carrying the ice and stuff like that. I don't think that's legal. But anyway, you know, who cares? I love child labor. Keep. Keep him out of the streets. But so I don't, I don't really know where she is. I didn't like her last week. This week I found out she Believes in child labor. So I liked her. But then this story came out, and I hate her again. So apparently, you know, there were rumors that this was happening at her other clubs. I've been reading these rumors on Reddit for a long time, but this is a review that was left after the opening. We came as part of the opening night event, and we were very excited to try this new restaurant bar out, but unfortunately, we will not be returning. After we got our drinks and sat at a table outside, the bouncer came out and stood directly next to a group of black men and informed the line that there was now a new dress code that prohibited ripped jeans, athletic wear, and Jordans, which all of the men were wearing. After seeing the outfits that were allowed in previously, it was obvious that there was no dress code, but this was a move made to prohibit certain groups of people into the restaurant. We confronted, we confronted the bouncer who made the comment, and we were told that it was a comment from management. Very disappointing. And then a bunch of comments kind of jumping on that one. I've heard that they do that at her other clubs and are discriminatory, so that's sucks to hear. So fuck off.
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Grace
If that's, that's, I mean, that's. If it's true, it's obviously massively disappointing and, and really bad. I, I, it's surprising because Leva has always historically not stood for that. And same with Lamar. So it's, it's surprising. And, you know, that's, it's wild. I mean, I definitely would like to hear more about this. And, like, it's also if this person is actually, like, it. Was he, was he saying the truth? Is he, like, a troll? It's hard to say, but I guess I didn't know there were other rumors about this happening at other restaurants. It's really, really terrible if it is true.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
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Grace
Unacceptable. I also like the idea, though. I like the idea that a group of people came in wearing, like, Air Jordans and ripped jeans and, like, athletic gear, and we're like, we're going to Zachary Daiquiri's. Like, we're putting on, we're putting on this. We're putting on athletic gear and ripped jeans and our Air Jordans, and we're going to Zachary Daiquiris just like that.
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Ben Mandelker
Lev and Lamar even thinking like that, like, bouncer, listen, this is a very important club, and we are going to have some rough trade coming in to Zachary's Daiquiris. We really need you. We really need you on the lookout. I mean, what the Hell, what a world. My God.
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Grace
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
So in the same city. At least it's in the same city. We have some Thomas Ravenel stuff going on. So last week, Thomas tweeted, drunkly, probably cocoly, who knows. He said, I'm not sure. Mayor Hands. Mayor hands. But fairly 90% sure that Whitney has had sex with every single girl that's on Southern Charm. I mean, he makes Weinstein look like Jesus Christ. Also a successful producer, and he says Whitney is right now begging me to take this down because he knows it's gonna his of a mother. And he's nothing but a total piece of.
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Grace
Wow.
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Ben Mandelker
Had you read that?
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Grace
I had read that T rev had said something inflammatory, but I just hadn't bothered to really look it up because it's T Rav. I'm just like, I'm just. There's enough. I. I just. You know what it was, I honestly, I just did. If it was. I heard he tweeted something and I just was not in the mood if it was gonna be some maga and I just didn't want to read it. So now that I hear that, it's just petty. Now I'm like, oh, wow. Okay, so this is.
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Ben Mandelker
Well, I read it. I read it every day because it's on my fridge. I printed it up where all of Thomas's tweets go. Big Brutus in the comments said, this is why the Democrats lost. Oh, okay. Well, you guys are doing a bang up job, Big Brutus, so thanks for everything you give us. Okay, so then Thomas Ravanel came out with another tweet that says, I just had. Because this is what Thomas does. He goes and slams your ass all over the Internet. And then he sobers up the next day and it's like, well, on second hand. On second thought, I just had a long conversation with Patricia Alstul and her son, Whitney Sudler Smith, and we took a deep dive into what happened over the past seven years. She basically confirmed what I intuitively knew all along, that she was always my friend. And I hereby want to publicly apologize to her for the mean things that I said about her. I extend this apology to Whitney as well. He's always been a dear friend, especially after the death of my father. I was touching.
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Grace
Yeah, like, how do you call, like, how do you say such nasty things about people? Like, truly, truly nasty. And then I'm just like, oh, yeah, by the way, they've always been friends and they're, they're lovely people. It's just like the pivot is Just so. It's so vile.
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Ben Mandelker
You know, I've always loved that sexual abuser and his of a mother and why I said anything mean about them, it's beyond me. Dear, dear sexual assaulter and whore mother. Merry Christmas. Love, Thomas Ravenel and the children he stole from Catherine.
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Grace
Yeah, yeah. No, it's just.
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Ben Mandelker
It's.
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Grace
Look, I. I can't. I can't. It's like, it's just wild that people do this. I mean, look, I get it. A lot of my favorite reality stars do this. They're really, really nasty. And then they're like, you know what? I was angry. I was acting out of anger. But I feel like that's. It's one thing to be like that on the show, but if you're just sitting in your. On your plantation and just tweeting this, it's like, get a life, bro.
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Ben Mandelker
Well, speaking of Thomas, it came out also this week that Jason Isaacs of White Lotus is basing his character on Thomas. Or a Southern charm at the very least. Southern charm at the very least. Southern charm, but most likely Thomas, let's face it. I mean, that accent is exactly Thomas Ravenel. He says, I don't want to. I don't want Thomas Ravenel suing me for whatever pennies I have left. So I'm not going to give him too much credit.
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Grace
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Grace
What I was going to say is I had read that Mike White had encouraged him to. To. To go watch Southern Charm, which by the way, makes me really excited because I thought Mike White was purely just a Survivor fan and listener or not listener, but just like a Survivor fan. So it's cool that Mike White is also in the Bravo sphere. Like, I love that that's like that. I feel like that's very cool.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I do too. It kind of explains a lot of Tanya's character, actually.
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Grace
It really does.
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Ben Mandelker
And also the three ladies who are on this year who are all gossiping about each other. Like the three best friends who every. Every episode is them gossiping about another one of the friends in the circle that they like take turns beating on each other.
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Grace
Yeah, that's very Beverly Hills. The three of them, you know, like the way they just are like quiet. The quiet competition, the comparing the doctor. Like, what do. Do you have, you know, yours looks. You look great. Or I do this. That, that, that polite competition that we see on Beverly Hills all the time. It's nice to see on White Lotus as well. I've only watched the first episode, but you know, there will be some binging later tonight.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, that's a good one. That's worth it. Although they can suck my dick with that theme song. That's not it. Why did they do that? Why would you do that? I mean, look, the theme song's not terrible, but why would you take the most iconic theme songs? And they had two versions of it, right? They had the first season, then they redid it for the second season, I. Third season. First of all, it's too low. Like, they mixed it really low. It. The. It goes hbo. And then the music's like, so it's too low. And it sounds like it's just beginning right before the remix. And they're going to be bringing in that.
- [26:32]
Grace
You think? I know. I mean, I. I do actually like it on its own terms as, like, a cool, chill thing that builds. But in the. Like, in the wake of last year, it's. It's hard. And I kept on thinking, is that. Is that. Are they bringing last year's theme in now? And I actually read an article about the music supervisor and how he's like. He got, like, a lot of crap for it. And they did, like, all this extensive research. They listened to all this time music to really get a sense of it. Here's something I did not realize. Again, I've only watched one episode, but the. Someone who. The. The woman who plays the actress who plays, like, one of the staff members, she's, like, gorgeous. She performed on the Oscars last night because I didn't realize she was in Blackpink. And Blackpink is, like, a global phenomenon. But I obviously, I'm like, I'm listening to Carly Rae Jepsen. I'm sort of like, I haven't branched out too far. And so her name is. Her stage name is Lisa. And I had no idea that this unassuming staff member on White Lotus has 105 million followers and is massively popular around the world. So that's just a fun thing to think about. And I'm just wondering what that Bravo star she used as inspiration and can't wait for her to come on to watch what happens and tell us all about it.
- [27:45]
Ben Mandelker
Sutton, she's sitting. Is her inspiration.
- [27:48]
Grace
Yeah, she's gonna be.
- [27:48]
Ben Mandelker
Sheena, there were rumors someone had asked us in the comments on the Crappy Hour post today, like, what do you want to talk about on Crappy Hour? And someone said, the rumors that Sheena and Brock are splitting up. So I looked for those rumors, and I couldn't find anything, except from April of last year that she said, we're not splitting up, but we're going through problems. But that was a long ago, so I don't think they're splitting up. I mean, I don't know. Does anybody care? I don't care.
- [28:14]
Grace
I haven't heard anything about that. Yeah, I don't think so. I do know that they are gonna.
- [28:18]
Ben Mandelker
Take care of that man, and she's gonna need that income to take care of him. So I hope she gets a job. Or they will split up. He'll be out of there.
- [28:24]
Grace
Well, if they do split up, they will wait until they're filming the Valley. And the Valley is apparently coming back very, very, very soon, I think, like, rumor has it, mid April. But we don't know that was from an old queen at the bar.
- [28:36]
Ben Mandelker
Rumor has it now there's an album. So did you see this stuff about Kathy Griffin going on something? I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't know what she went on. I did, but she went on a podcast and finally outed the big secret of the Amsterdam trip where Lisa Rena was like, do not bring up my husband, and slammed the glass and, like, went for Kim's waddle and tried to strangle her and then stab her with the glass and all of that good stuff. And so Kathy Griffin went to dinner with them, and she said, harry, what's the secret? Just tell me the secret. And he said, they said, I fucked a dog.
- [29:18]
Grace
That's the big secret. Now, do you think that is the secret? Or he just knows Kathy Griffin can't keep her mouth shut, so he's just going to give her some bullshit so that way she can take it to, you know, podcasts and, you know, and. And make that be the definitive answer. Do you think Harry's not sly?
- [29:35]
Ben Mandelker
Harry's not sly like that.
- [29:37]
Grace
You.
- [29:37]
Ben Mandelker
You had a dinner with Harry. We had a dinner with Harry Hamlin. He's not a sly person who's thinking like that. You know, he's true, and he will tell the truth, you know, and, yeah, I do think that's what it was, and I think that's fucking hilarious.
- [29:51]
Grace
That's such a. That's such a very specific rumor. I mean, like, who started that? That Harry Hamlin fucked a dog? That's like. I'm gonna say this right now. I don't think that Harry Hamlin fucked a dog. I just don't think so.
- [30:03]
Ben Mandelker
Brave. Brave move.
- [30:06]
Grace
Yeah, I don't go out on a limb either.
- [30:07]
Ben Mandelker
I mean.
- [30:10]
Grace
I mean, who knows? Anything can happen these days. But I don't think he did. I'm going to say he probably did not do that.
- [30:20]
Ben Mandelker
Grace says that Kathy Griffin was on the podcast Trash Tuesday. Thank you for that, God. We need you guys here for every show we do to correct us when we're wrong, which is, at least in my case, 80% of the time. I could use this comment thread running on the side. So let's see what else do we have here?
- [30:39]
Grace
Tom Sandal, let's talk. Oh, go for it, Tom Sandoval. So, Traders, everyone. I hope everyone has caught up on the Traders, because I'm about to talk about it. The. Tom Sandoval was recently me on the Traders. So he has had, like, a real big image improvement because of the Traders. People like him again. People. Well, people sort of what they do is they don't say they like him, they say. I. I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but, like, I found him to be really entertaining on the Traders, which is fair because he's. He's dumb. He's. He's a dumb idiot. And it's hilarious watching him. And, like, after that challenge where he was singing into the phone, I mean, that was. That was amazing. So. But he was murdered. Rip, rip to Tom Sandoval. And he has now done his exit interviews with all sorts of media outlets, and he has told US magazine that if he were picked as a traitor, he would have just left the Castle. I don't know if I believe that. On the one hand, I get it because he's been. He's been trying to crawl out of this hole from Scandival for, like, two or three years now, and he has failed on all fronts. So, like, the last thing he wants to do is make himself a vil on the show. But I also think he's addicted to fame. And I think that if given the chance to be a traitor and to outsmart people, I think he would take it. What do you think, Ronnie?
- [32:08]
Ben Mandelker
Well, look, the. The scandal stuff helped Ariana. I mean, she became a massive star after all that happened, but it also helped Tom Sandoval. I mean, Tom Sandoval hasn't really stopped working ever since then, and he's been a villain and a punching bag, but he still had a lot of work from it. He's on Traders. I mean, he's one of the only Vanderpump Rules people to ever be on Traders. So I. I'm with you. I think that he likes the fame. And of course, he would have been a traitor. He would have been a horrible one. He would have probably been on week two. But, yeah, he's full of. Oh, my gosh.
- [32:38]
Grace
You know, Michael Horn, in the comments, has pointed out that Scandival happened two years ago today.
- [32:45]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
- [32:45]
Grace
Kind of shocking. I can't believe it's only been two years. I feel like. I feel like it's been with us for, like, three years at least, but I guess. Really, yeah, two Years. Makes sense.
- [32:53]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Where were you when that happened? Do you remember where you were?
- [32:57]
Grace
Yes.
- [32:57]
Ben Mandelker
When you found out?
- [32:58]
Grace
I was on my sofa. It was rain. It was raining. I was on my sofa. And I think. I think. Was it you or Katie? Or, like, I think it was you. Someone texted me. I think. I think it was you. I think it was, like, you. I think you and Katie. It was like we're a group, group text, if I remember correctly. And it was, like, impossible to even comprehend. I was like, what?
- [33:22]
Ben Mandelker
What?
- [33:22]
Grace
And then, like, going on to TMZ and just, like, not reading headlines and not being able to actually believe that they were true. And, like, it took a moment to process. How about you? Do you remember where you were during Scandival? Fuck. I think. I think Ronnie's AirPods have betrayed him yet again based on that whispered fuck he just said. I just remember. I remember how crazy it was. I just remember going on to Twitter and everyone was tweeting and it was on TMZ and no one could believe it. And, like, people were cursing. It was so shocking. And then I think it was that, like. I think the first drips and drabs that they were broken up, and that was shocking. And then it was that he'd had an affair, and that was shocking. And then it was like, oh, and the affair was with Raquel. It was kind of like a. Like, it just came in these very quick, successive waves. And, yeah, that was an exciting moment. And I remember. Can you not hear me?
- [34:26]
Ben Mandelker
I was in the roundabout and coming home to my house. There's a roundabout. Well, I guess they're not roundabouts. They're traffic circles. You know, I've already told this story because I remember people taught me what a traffic circle was because I used to call them roundabouts. But anyway, I was in a traffic circle coming home, and someone read me the text, and I was like, no. And I just kept going around and around in the traffic circle. Just kept going around. I was like, I can't believe it. I can't believe this would happen. And I was probably voice to texting you right in that. In that circle. I was like a crazy person. I couldn't stop.
- [35:00]
Grace
I. I feel like, you know, it's. It's crazy that after all this time, you still can't search your text messages by date. I. There's no way that I'm aware of. I'm trying. I would love to go back to my text messages around this to know what happened on March 3, 2023, but there's literally no way to. How does anyone know how to do that? Does anyone know how to look into like search your text messages by date? Because I would love to know what happened on this day two years ago.
- [35:29]
Ben Mandelker
You mean other things in your life or what?
- [35:32]
Grace
No, just to see what I was texting. Like what the text that came through. Etc, you know, there's a way.
- [35:39]
Ben Mandelker
Well, mine were. I don't believe it. I didn't believe it when it, when it happened. I didn't believe it at all. I thought it was just a rumor and then it just, it became truer and truer as the day went on. So yeah. Happy two year anniversary everybody. That was a fun one. God bless it.
- [35:56]
Grace
I know. That was, that was a. Yeah, I can't, I can't look it up.
- [35:59]
Ben Mandelker
And it also started a trend that is still going to this day where Bravo insists on picking the cameras back up after something happened. And it's usually some kind of affair or something. It's like, oh, we found out about an affair. They keep trying to recreate it but you're not going to do it with Mia. You're not going to do it with this Kyle bullshit. You're not going to do it. Even Paige and Craig, like, it's just not the same thing, you know. But they're going to bring me in so it's a nice that they started.
- [36:26]
Grace
Yeah. Question about Sandoval. No, no, it wasn't about Sandoval. About traitors. Thoughts on Dolores? Because like we are. I'm so happy that Dolores has made it to the finale of Traders and when the season began I was like, you know what I love about Dolores is she knows exactly what's going on but she keeps her cards close to her vest. But now I'm sort of feeling like Dolores is kind of in the Charay Whitfield camp of Traders gameplay. And I don't know how I feel about it.
- [37:01]
Ben Mandelker
Dolores isn't great at gameplay but who cares? I mean there's always got to be a dummy. At least, at least she's an entertaining dummy. She's so funny. People are so pissed. I mean. And all the traitors boards that I read, they are so mad at Dolores. But I can't get mad at Dolores. I just think she's never. And what if she's really smart? You know, there's not many people with these theories, but what if she is actually really smart and she knows everything that's going on?
- [37:26]
Grace
I mean that would be wonderful. But like it would be, it'd be Interesting. If she was like. Like, for instance, if this week she voted for Ivar or Iva solely. That way she stays on Danielle's good side. But I am, I'm.
- [37:41]
Ben Mandelker
I.
- [37:41]
Grace
If she wins, if she and Gabby win together, I will really be doing dances of joy. But I'm just afraid that I. I'm afraid she's not going to get it. And I'm also afraid she's going to be really.
- [37:52]
Ben Mandelker
She's not. But if she's really smart, Jennifer, she's not. Give it up.
- [38:01]
Grace
Seb says she's not smart.
- [38:06]
Ben Mandelker
Oh, my gosh. I like this one. Dolores seems thrilled to be in any room and also confused to be in any given room.
- [38:15]
Grace
Does Dolores know she's in Scotland? You know, this is a beautiful, beautiful resort in upstate New York. Everyone talks with such unique accents.
- [38:25]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, well, you know Dolores, she's just old school Italian. She's from Patterson. She believes this lady who's saying, I swear on my children. And that's it. Dolores is just gonna believe that and she's gonna go with it. That's how she's raised and that' how it's going to go. You know, they. They knew how to work her and they got it. It worked.
- [38:42]
Grace
Yeah. Okay. I have to ask, since we have. We have people here who here in the audience thinks that Britney switched her vote to Danielle and who thinks that she kept it on Iva because this has been the raging question that everyone has been asking all week long amongst Traders fans. And by the way, I. I cannot wait for Thursday. And are you going to be doing anything, Ronnie, for the finale or are you just gonna watch it like normal?
- [39:12]
Ben Mandelker
I'm just gonna watch it like normal. I don't have. If I was in la, I would come with you or something, but if. Yeah, here, I won't know because I don't have anybody who watches it here. So it would be, you know, inviting people over to enjoy something that they don't enjoy and they're like, what is this?
- [39:28]
Grace
A lot of, A lot of people are saying in the, in the comments, people are saying, switch. Oh, my God. M.W. says I have to catch up. Oh, geez. Yeah, I mean, sorry, I think we kind of ruined it for you a little bit there.
- [39:40]
Ben Mandelker
But people I don't know is going to stay with Danielle. I think she's gonna keep Danielle.
- [39:47]
Grace
Meaning, like, vote against Ivar and keep Danielle. Yeah, yeah, I think so, too. I think they're trying to set it up. Like Dolores fooled her. I mean, it's gonna be shocking no matter what. And if it does come out to a draw, I think Ivar goes home because that's just the way this game has been going. And honestly, if he go, I would not be mad at it. I. I have disliked Ivar for so long, I thought, hey, yeah, I was like a gay British aristocrat. This is perfect. And he's actually just so boring and the worst.
- [40:15]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I need more of like an ab Fab style. Like, if you're gonna go against the grain of the royal family, I want you to be like, chain smoking and like people in bathrooms and stuff. I don't want this, like. But I'm still pretty proper and use the correct fork. Like, get the out of here, man.
- [40:29]
Grace
Yeah. And he was like, so adamant about Sierra. He really was one of the people who was leading the charge against Sierra for bullshit reasons that. That kind of like you and not you because it's like, oh, CR is so great. It's more like you because there was evidence pointing towards other people. And you're one of the people who, like, who got like off message with someone like Danielle, you know?
- [40:49]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So Allison is asking, did Ion spill the tea of who on the Traders has a huge crush on Sandoval, which Sandoval is freaked out about. I don't think that she has. Has mentioned who she was talking about, but all evidence is pointing to Carolyn, actually, because Carolyn is like, oh, you know, I really love Johnson. What a gentle soul. I just love the guy. Like, he gets me so. And she said on her podcast that she has a crush on him, but I think she meant friend crush. I mean, I don't know who knows.
- [41:23]
Grace
About chick, you know, but yikes. Hey, you know, I wonder if Carolyn listens to the podcast, maybe she'll come to our show. We're going to. I forgot we're going to Minneapolis in like, like 10 days. Do you think she would come to our show? That would be amazing. My dream.
- [41:38]
Ben Mandelker
No, I'm just so awkward, you know, I don't know if I can do it.
- [41:43]
Grace
I just love that so much. I just want to meet her. We'll find a way. We have to talk about also that's non Traders related. Yes. I forgot. We have something to talk about. Going back to Southern charm. We have to talk about Vanita. Vanita has suddenly realized that being a reality star means that she's entitled to talk to the press about things that are interesting. And so she started to do it and she has something to say. Actually not even to the press. She said some stuff to the press. But before she even did that, she posted on her social media, on her Instagram story, she posted a piece of information that I wish I had known before I started yapping away on last week's recap of Southern Charm, which is that she said, I'm gonna pull up the image. I probably should have done it before. And she said, let me make something very clear. That dinner JT and I had after I made a brand Xeno. I love the specificity of the brand Xeno was after the Bahamas. And y'all as an audience, saw it before. So this week's episode is now making me look like I'm a home wrecker when I'm not. I know what I signed up for, but I also will not allow the world to think that I'm a. I'm that woman when I'm not. So bravo.
- [43:05]
Ben Mandelker
Make sure you add this screenshot to all of the Reddit threads. So I love that she's a Reddit queen, too. Yeah. So this may. This is pretty shitty. So they edited the. Edited that on purpose to make it look like she was jumping JT when he had a girlfriend. However, if you really start thinking about it, okay, so then you were in. Then this. You were on this vacation. So then you jumped, you know, you straddled him or whatever, twice, and he told you, no, he has a girlfriend. So then why would you have him to dinner at your house and act all giddy like he's your boyfriend and then be shocked that he's saying that he has a girlfriend?
- [43:41]
Grace
Yeah, that's. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm sure if we went back and saw the scene of her making him dinner, maybe her giddiness was in interviews that they edited in. And if you took that out, it was just her making dinner for a friend. I can't tell. But, yeah, that sounds really, really dirty of the editors. I mean, the thing is this. I don't mind when they play dirty tricks on, like, Austin or Craig or Shep. But Vanita, I mean, I just feel like she's so already starved for anything relevant to do, that this was just mean. On the other hand, we're all talking about Vanita now, and we haven't talked about her at all in a few years.
- [44:19]
Ben Mandelker
Well, but there's still something fitt. Fishy. Okay, because there's that thing, like, there's the branzino dinner after, which doesn't make sense if she knew he had a girlfriend. But I get. I get that maybe that could have been edited too. But then she was doing interviews before the season started, and she went on Ryan Bailey, and she said that she had been dating jt JT ghosted her while they dated and then posted a girlfriend on Instagram. And she was shocked about it. She was completely shocked about it. And. And that doesn't make sense either. So what she said doesn't make sense either, because he didn't ghost her. And she wasn't shocked about the girlfriend because we saw her tell about it. Tell. We saw him tell her about it on tv. So then the girlfriend, whose name is Allie, under this post that you just read of Vanitas Ally, says, Vanita met me as Jarrett's girlfriend at dinner with Bunny last April, pre filming. But I appreciate her trying to save face. Happy to send receipts. Oh, so she's saying that Vanita went into filming knowing that he had a girlfriend and then still was trying to get with him that whole time. So I don't really know what the hell's happening, because Vanita stories don't make sense either. I don't understand how one minute she's ghosted, and then the next minute we see what happens, and she wasn't ghosted at all. So.
- [45:37]
Grace
But, like, I don't see her trying to save face because every. Everything that's happened to her this season has been her kind of doing something humiliating. And then she talks about it in the. The. She talks about it in, like, the confessional. That's kind of like, yep, I tried to do this thing. I tried to swim. I tried to straddle J.T. i tried to make him fish, and I. I failed. Oh, and my boyfriend left me to go to Broadway. Like, I think she's kind of taken it on the chin all season. So, I mean, I guess the idea is, like, she's taking it on the chin, but she won't. She doesn't want to have the idea that she goes after. She goes after committed men. But.
- [46:14]
Ben Mandelker
Well, I guess. I guess if there's something, it's to say that JT was, you know, JT wrong her. So that would make her, like, a victim, which would elevate her in the audience's eyes. Like, we were just talking about scandal and stuff like that and how every show kind of has to have something like that. So maybe she was trying to do that. I don't know. I'm not even accusing her of anything because I honestly don't even understand what's going on. I just don't understand why she's using all these stories that don't add up at this point. And also, I just don't understand the fighting for JT in general. That guy's gross.
- [46:43]
Grace
Yeah, I don't understand that. I don't understand that. Someone in the comments says, Ben, she's. Yes, Ben, she's coming out pathetic. I'm not saying she's coming up pathetic. I'm just saying, like, she's had some swings and misses, and she's, she's eaten humble pie in the confessionals with a smile. I actually think she's handled it pretty well because she's been like, whoops. Whoops. I guess that didn't work out so well for me, you know, as opposed to, you know, some people who try to make excuses for it and are like, well, it wasn't like this or that, you know, So I appreciate that. She's just like, yeah, I tried that and it was a colossal fail. You know, I like that. But the JT thing, though, ultimately, I think we all agree she can do about much better than J.T. no matter what. Like, like this controversy shouldn't have even existed in the first place because she should never have gone for JT in the first place.
- [47:26]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Texas girl in Virginia says, at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. The real villain here is J.T. he didn't do a good job of discouraging her. I mean, he, he sold her. I don't know. I mean, I agree that the season was spent with him flirting with her. I, I, when they showed that branzino dinner, I felt really terrible for her and that he came in and he ate the whole branzino before kind of, you know, dumping that news on her. And then, you know, even the thing in Hawaii, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I did feel bad for her for a point, but, I mean, he did say flat out he's dating the other girl. So if that happened, I don't know. I don't know. It's confusing.
- [48:08]
Grace
I agree that this is a, I was going to say, can you agree that this is like a generally very uninteresting controversy as far as controversy.
- [48:18]
Ben Mandelker
You know, I don't like the lies. You know, it makes me crazy when people come out. It makes me crazy that she's saying one thing when the season started about being ghosted and we saw that that didn't happen, and now she's not addressing that and making it sound like something else. And then this girlfriend is saying that she was dating him the whole season. So I don't, I don't know. I want truth in my lies. I want truth in my liar shows. I want to know what the hell's going on. They're confusing me. They're making me invest in things. And then at the end, they're just pulling out the rug. I don't like it.
- [48:47]
Grace
Fred in the comments asks, where'd y'all hair go? So, unfortunately, we don't have any good answers.
- [48:56]
Ben Mandelker
I'm a sinner question. I'm a sinner. I've been sinning a long time, and the good Lord took my hair. That's what my memaw told me. Me. And I believe her, you know? And guess what? I'm losing more of it every day. Okay?
- [49:08]
Grace
And our sparky is going through it because our Sparky says, my husband just told me that my lemon and chicken orzo soup needs a lot of seasoning. So, you know, it's. It's a tough Monday. Carrie has it best. Carrie says it best when she says branzino is not a couch fish. That is what we all. That is the truth. Most truthful thing we've heard all fall of 2025. Branzino is.
- [49:35]
Ben Mandelker
The other gossip going on in the Southern charm world is that Craig is dating Sally. Sally. There have been some hints that they've been dating, and this one of the. In Craig's phone.
- [49:54]
Grace
They were seen in the parking lot of a steakhouse. I don't. I feel like. I don't. I feel like Sally would not be able to. I feel like Craig would drive Sally absolutely nuts if this were true. I mean, he's just not smart.
- [50:10]
Ben Mandelker
I don't know. She's dated a lot. She hasn't dated one person that I would think wouldn't make somebody nuts. She's dated a lot of people that we've seen on the show, and they all look like idiots. So.
- [50:21]
Grace
Yeah, they. But they were having dinner together and they say they're just really good friends. Yeah, I. I don't know. I mean, it's always. It always starts with the they're just having dinner together thing. And then at least to something else.
- [50:38]
Ben Mandelker
It started at Dumois claiming Conover and Carson was seen having dinner together at no Poo. And then JT wrote under the post. Makes sense.
- [50:51]
Grace
And notably, speaking of Vanita, Vanita weighed in about. Not on this topic, but Vanita did say that she thinks that Craig is milking his breakup from Paige. And I agree with Vanita on that. I think Craig is really fueling this fire way more than Paige is.
- [51:08]
Ben Mandelker
And everything make A comment like, geez, you save a girl from drowning and this is how she repays you?
- [51:14]
Grace
You should save someone from drowning just because they're drowning, not because you're hoping they're gonna say something nice about you on a gossip blog. You know, like. Like sometimes you just do things because they're the right thing to do, not because you're trying to get goodwill for your publicity campaign.
- [51:31]
Ben Mandelker
I don't know.
- [51:32]
Grace
It's a lesson that actually a lot of people should learn.
- [51:34]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, yeah. Do things just because they're the good thing to do. No, I'm not going to do that. And, you know, here's a perfect example. I went to the grocery store today and I went to the Hobby lob, not the Hobby Lobby Michael's, the. The non evil one. And I went to Old Navy. Two of those stores. Not Old Navy. Thank you. Old Navy. Two of those stores at the very end said, you want to round up poor children. No, I don't. Stop trying to do good when I'm trying to shop in your goddamn store. I want a glue gun, okay? That's what I want. If the poor kids want something, they can come over here and glue some. Get out of here. It's round up the change. You all take that for tax breaks anyway. Don't try and good people me. I'm losing my hair. Did you not hear? I'm a bad person, so stop asking.
- [52:16]
Grace
By the way, Rip. Did you hear Rip?
- [52:20]
Ben Mandelker
Joanne, don't you even give me a dead person. I'm not going to stand for it at the very end of this.
- [52:24]
Grace
No, no, her name is Joanne. No, her name is Joanne and her last name is Fabrics, and they're all close.
- [52:30]
Ben Mandelker
Is she finally dead?
- [52:32]
Grace
Joanne Fabrics is closing.
- [52:33]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, they've set Ben. They've been saying that for years. She's never closed. Joanne Fabrics has been having a going out of business sale for five years.
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Grace
My friend was like. My friend was like, I went to Joanne's on. I went to Joanne's yesterday and was pretty picked over. I'm like, that's how Joanne's always looks. They should just call it picked over. I swear to God, if you try to get buttons there, okay, you are a comp. You're a business that is about buttons and fabrics. And you can only get, like, here's two buttons, size one one quarter inch, and here's six that are like three inches big. And here's what. How do you not have a proper inventory and supply of buttons at Joann Fabrics? Bitch.
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Ben Mandelker
Joanne is a bizarre that is a bizarre place, man. Joanne's fabrics, I was gonna say, what are they gonna bury her in? Just like some unsold, like the only piece of fabric they couldn't sell in this going out of business. It's like poor Joanne. Rest in paisley. Rest in paisley.
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Grace
Did I, did I tell you. I think I told you the time. Did I tell you at the time I walked into a Michaels and I thought I was walking into a Target and it was the most disorienting thing cuz there's a, there's a Michaels and a Target that are next to each other on La Brea. And like I went down the elevator and I swear to God I thought I walked. The doors are next to each other and I swear to God I thought I walked into the Target, not the Michaels and I was walking around what I thought was Target and I was like, I cannot believe how crafty Target has become. This is a crazy target. Like it didn't. Like my brain would not let me but like realize I was in a Michaels instead. And it was. When you walk into a Michaels and you think you're in a different facility, it is a very strange experience. I'll just leave it at that.
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Ben Mandelker
Oh my gosh. All right everybody, well this is ending the audio portion. We are going to move on to viewer chat time over on YouTube live. So anyone listening on audio, see you later, see you in a couple of weeks. Monday, Mondays at 5:30 here on YouTube live. Love you guys and everybody on YouTube live. Stay tuned and we will hand out a link in just a second. Bye guys.
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Monica Lewinsky
At 24, I lost my narrative. Or rather, it was stolen from me. And the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes, and politics. I would define reclaiming as to take back what was your yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks both recognizable and unrecognizable names about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaiming and feel like they filled their tank up, they connected with the people that I'm talking to, and leave with maybe some nuggets that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.
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Narrator
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