#2751 RHOBH S1414 Part Two: Runway or Another I’m Gonna Get You Get You Get You Get You

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Episode: #2751 RHOBH S1414 Part Two: Runway or Another I’m Gonna Get You Get You Get You Get You
Release Date: March 5, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Platform: Wondery

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Introduction

In episode #2751 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Erica Jane delve into the dramatic events of "Real Housewives of Beaverly Hills" Season 14, Episode 14. This episode, titled "Runway or Another I’m Gonna Get You Get You Get You Get You," continues exploring the intricate relationships, personal struggles, and glamorous endeavors of the cast members. The hosts provide a blend of humor, insightful commentary, and sharp critiques, capturing the essence of Bravo’s reality TV spectacle.

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1. Erica’s Kitchen Conversations

[01:27 - 03:37]

The episode opens with Erica in her kitchen, sharing a heartfelt moment with her mother over a glass of champagne. They discuss recent redecorations, symbolizing Erica's personal growth and attempts to move past old traumas.

• Erica Jane: “It’s a symbol of stun over.”
• Ben Mandelker: “He really is for people who have nothing else going on in their lives.”

The conversation hints at lingering tensions and unresolved issues tied to Erica’s past, particularly concerning Tom, whose trial is approaching.

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2. The Shadow of Tom’s Trial

[03:38 - 04:55]

Erica reflects on her tumultuous relationship with Tom, revealing fears and anxieties about his legal troubles. The impending trial casts a long shadow over her current life, influencing her interactions and emotional state.

• Erica Jane: “I try not to think about how dark things were.”
• Ben Mandelker: “I was scared to death you'd move back in with me...”

The discussion underscores Erica’s determination to persevere despite the emotional baggage she carries from her past relationship.

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3. Moving Forward in Entertainment

[04:56 - 07:09]

Determined to redefine herself, Erica emphasizes her accomplishments and the strides she's made in her entertainment career. She showcases newfound independence and resilience, distancing herself from past dependencies.

• Erica Jane: “I'm a star of Short Circuit Goots.”
• Ben Mandelker: “You're doing inside and things for yourself, Erica.”

Erica’s pride in her achievements signals a significant personal transformation, seeking validation through professional success.

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4. Planning the Fashion Show

[07:10 - 10:12]

The focus shifts to Sutton’s ambitious fashion show at the Godfrey Hotel. Erica and Ben discuss the preparations, highlighting Sutton's desire for family approval and recognition.

• Ben Mandelker: “We have to go down to Wilshire first.”
• Erica Jane: “Hope that he walks.”

Sutton’s meticulous planning and Erica’s supportive role illustrate the high-stakes nature of reality TV events, blending personal aspirations with public performances.

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5. Interpersonal Dynamics and Conflicts

[10:13 - 15:28]

The hosts navigate through various interpersonal dramas among the cast members, including Garcelle’s frustrations, Dorit’s attempts at reconciliation, and Kyle’s questionable actions aimed at garnering attention.

• Erica Jane: “You're still a fucking idiot.”
• Ben Mandelker: “Garcelle is the only one saying these things.”

These tensions reveal the competitive and often toxic nature of reality TV relationships, where alliances are fragile and conflicts are amplified for viewer engagement.

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6. The Fashion Show Event

[15:29 - 33:05]

The climax of the episode centers around Sutton’s fashion show. From backstage anxieties to on-runway mishaps, the hosts provide a detailed recount of the event’s highs and lows.

• Erica Jane: “She’s like, sashay.”
• Ben Mandelker: “Garcelle’s like, I am so proud of you.”

Jennifer Tilly’s appearance adds a layer of celebrity glamour, while Kathy Hilton’s unexpected runway walk injects humor and chaos into the proceedings. The fashion show serves as a microcosm of the broader themes of ambition, validation, and personal struggle.

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7. Aftermath and Reflections

[33:06 - 43:55]

Post-event, the hosts reflect on the outcomes and lingering tensions. Erica and Garcelle express pride in their achievements, yet acknowledge the underlying dissatisfaction that fame and success bring.

• Erica Jane: “I am so proud of you.”
• Ben Mandelker: “How proud we are of you... will never, ever fill in the void.”

This segment underscores the paradox of reality TV fame: the public accolades mask private voids, hinting at the deeper emotional complexities of the cast members.

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Notable Quotes

• Erica Jane [02:38]: “I'm proud of you for not succumbing, because that was a real option.”
• Ben Mandelker [03:37]: “I'm basically an Oscar winner now.”
• Erica Jane [07:09]: “I feel like I'm in a chapter that wasn't written.”
• Ben Mandelker [15:07]: “She’s basically the voice of the audience.”
• Erica Jane [29:52]: “I'm wearing a very risque outfit, Mother. It’s pretty backless.”

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Conclusion

Episode #2751 of Watch What Crappens offers a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of the latest developments in "Real Housewives of Beaverly Hills." Through witty commentary and detailed analysis, Ben Mandelker and Erica Jane adeptly capture the essence of reality TV drama, providing listeners with both laughs and insights. Whether you're a seasoned fan or new to the series, this episode delivers a rich narrative that encapsulates the triumphs and tribulations of the Beaverly Hills housewives.

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Who cares what happens when there's so much what happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. So now Erica's in her kitchen and she has some champagne and she's like, ma, you want to go drink some bottle of champagne out in the cabana? Turns out there's one other spot we forgot to do on our HGTV tour. She's like, yes. Okay, so now we see the cabana went from looking one way to looking another way.

[Erica Jane]

Yeah, and aren't you proud of me, Mama? She's like, oh, this rug is just gorgeous, you know, But Martin painted. Did you see Martin painted? She goes, I do see Erica, I do. It's real pretty. And she's like, wow, Mama. So I'm just happy for you to see the house, you know, because, oh, gosh, how some people would look. Redecoration. Some people will be. But to me, it's a symbol. A symbol of stun over.

[Ben Mandelker]

He really is for people who have nothing else going on in their lives. And it's interesting how all this has come to fruition, you know, emphasis on the fruit part of fruition. I mean, that Martin Lawrence Ballard, Am I right? So, you know, the whole thing with Tom, I really am proud of you because I know what you've been through. And there were days when I was scared to death you'd move back in with me, and I'm so glad you stayed out here.

[Erica Jane]

The way you clanked, the way you cling to those diamond earrings. Erica, I've never been prouder. And Erica's like, I try not to think about how dark things were. My mother had every right to be afraid for me. And then we see the long montage that is now reframed as Erica has been the biggest victim in the world. And we come back and it's like, it's just easy. It's easy to get driven down into a dark hole. I was ordering Taco Bell from Doordash, and now look at me. Ding dong bomb. Could you get that? It's the Taco Bell from Doordash, but I'm doing it happier now.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm basically an Oscar winner now. Now that my music was played in the background of a strip scene inor at some point, you just got to listen real carefully for it. I wanted to ask her mom, so we see more flashbacks of her, you know, going through it, and she goes, I'm proud of myself for not succumbing, because that was a real option, you know, I think of Tom less and less. I used to think of him every day, and then it used to be a day or two when I don't think about him. And it's been nice, but every now and then, that Roomba comes into the living room to clean things, and I'm like, hey, Tom. And I'm like, oh, God, it's not Tom. Anyway, I know he's been coming up for trial in a couple of weeks, but that's gonna suck. I'm not gonna look. I don't know. I only want to know what I have to know.

[Erica Jane]

So then we see a headline. It's prosecutors say Tom Girardi spent $25 million of clients money on Erica Jane's entertainment career. As Tom's criminal date is trial date is revealed. It's like oh, it's just not healthy to be reminded of the past. Now I'm only looking for new poor people to rip off. So she's like, yeah, I'm done with past trauma. I'm done with it. Every time someone reminds me of Tom's trial, it's like cutting open a healing wound. And I say something festering, it smells like Tom in here. And then I think of Tom all over again.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bubble, the point is I'm trying not to think about Tom. Okay, Erica, so any further thoughts about Tom? Oh, we just did it again to me. So Rene is like, well, I've got.

[Erica Jane]

So many horizontal stripes in my house now, because that's what Tom's going to be wearing for the rest of his short life.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, Erica, you have a lot to be proud of. I mean, I. I saw you got a coffee mug that says I'm with stupid. That's funny. That's cool. You're doing inside and things for yourself, Erica.

[Erica Jane]

You know, it's drinking it straight from the picture anymore. Good for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

You got a cabana. That's nice. So you know, you know, sticking it out, going through what you went through and all you've achieved. I can only speak in such general praiseworthy ways so many times before I have to kind of go back to Georgia. So anything else you have you need me to say for you to help you get through your scene?

[Erica Jane]

I feel like I'm in a chapter. A chapter that wasn't written, missing a chapter that wasn't written yet. It's been missing from the book, but here we are. Chapter one. Erica and her somewhat homely mother sitting in the cabana enjoying the fruits of Erica's labor. Mother has done nothing today but Erica has done everything. Mama is proud and silent while Erica. Mama is silent.

[Ben Mandelker]

I told you I'm in a new chapter. Okay. You know, I'm staring at the blank page before you. I'm opening up a dirty window. I'm letting the sun illuminate the woods that you could not find.

[Erica Jane]

Is that from the hills? Umbrella? Ella, Ella, Ella, Ella, Ella. Oh, the hills.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't remind me about Tom.

[Erica Jane]

He drove down, crash his car. I've got projects, I've got dates. I've got stripes in my wall. I've got shelves in London. I can do everything. It's kind of open ended. I got a new life to right now, Eric.

[Ben Mandelker]

Erica, why did you just spill that champagne on me? Feel the rain on your skin no one else can feel it for you Only you can let it in. Erica. I'm getting concerned about you now, honey.

[Erica Jane]

I'm glad you're going to be writing a new chapter. Could. But could we try using less rhymes with. That would be great. I would like to be able to look to some of my friends this time.

[Ben Mandelker]

Mother, I've got big news. I'm dating Brody Jenner. Oh, okay, Okay. I think you're taking this too far.

[Erica Jane]

Well, I'm proud of you. You know, when you called and told me, mom, I have a Porsche, I mean, now that's pride right there. I mean, what? I just knew you were ready to soar to the top of the world. And you're a lot of money in leases. I hope you've got a long contract with this show.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, I have to say, honey, when you bought that Porsche, I thought, my daughter's never going to be able to pilfer away her money again. But guess what? You did. I'm so proud of you.

[Erica Jane]

Yeah. So then we go to Porsche Villa or no, Portavilla. We went there, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

We did. We did go there.

[Erica Jane]

We're very fancy. We're very.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, we went there and it was very okay food. So Dorit is like. She orders her her cocktail, you know, the Belvedere with club soda with three lemons squeezed in. Really? Well, thank you, Luis. He's like, my name's not Luis. And also, what do I do with the carcasses? You have to figure that out yourself because I'm not going to say it on camera anymore.

[Erica Jane]

I'm a new woman. Normally, I would take carcass out, but not today. Today is a new treat.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know you can't pay with those carcasses. Oh, well, in that case, leave them out.

[Erica Jane]

So Garcel comes and she's like, please don't hug me. I'm not. I'm not ready for it. Oh, I know you're not feeling well. I feel fine. Just please don't touch me. Please stay over there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't want your pore all over me.

[Erica Jane]

So listen, it feels like it's been at least two months since I've been able to say, I'm good. I'm good. Do you know what? Today I say it. I'm good at an engine. And I'm a star of Short Circuit Goots.

[Ben Mandelker]

I also invented a printing press, so, gee, hell hath frozen over. I would have never imagined that Garcelle and I would have been sitting together, just the two of us, and then we see flashbacks to them. I mean, technically, you guys have sat together, the two of Us. But it's usually her saying, please stop saying problematic things.

[Erica Jane]

But here we are, just me and Garcelle, and hopefully she's brought her American Express, because I'm not paying for this.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, when Dorit came to me at Bose's Wellness and she apologized, she took accountability. And, you know, to me, that was a good start for us to try once again. You know, nothing more fun for me than trying to be friends with someone until they disappoint you about three hours later. Here we go again.

[Erica Jane]

It's so nice that Doritos stopped being problematic. Garcelle, would you please hang my coat? All right, I'm gonna ignore that and talk about Black girl missing 73.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, you're yelling at me right now.

[Erica Jane]

Being mamas. Me. We're mamas. And not only are we mamas, we're busy, busy mamas.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, yes, yes. How's life? There's so much going on that we don't know what to even say. Okay, I'll take it from here. There's so much going on, so much to talk about. Like Bonnie Raitt says, let's give them something to. Something about. Talk about. Yes, that.

[Erica Jane]

Anyhow, I think that's a different song. No, it's not. I think it is. It's not.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think it's, let's give them something to be busy mamas and papas about. Yes. No.

[Erica Jane]

I mean, so much. I mean, listen, I. Right now, which is status que. And I'm good. I'm happy. I'm happy that he's happy. And you know what? If he's happy, I'm happy and happy as days. So if that tells you something, Garcelle's like, well, it tells me a lot. You're still a fucking idiot. And I don't know why I'm at lunch with you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let me just say it's like, Monday, Tuesday, Happy days. Wednesday, Thursday, happy days. Friday, Saturday, happy days. Sunday, happy days. Do you see what I'm trying to say, Garcelle? No.

[Erica Jane]

Well, I can relate to Dorit and what she's going through, because nobody wants get to get divorced when you have kids. You know, my biz, my boys are 16, and I'm dealing with that. And I just look at her children, and I thank God neither one of you has a comp card. And it's sad.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's sad, you know, every day it's something else. I don't know if you saw the pictures yesterday. Oh, yes. PK in the bikini bottom. It was. It was tragic. No, no, no, I'm talking about Marisa. I didn't even see those photos you're talking about.

[Erica Jane]

Oh, they were just on my phone. Carl forwarded them to me. We're very close now. Okay, well, you know, I mean, Mauricio. I saw one of the blogs say that she took off the word wife after the picture surface. And then we see headlines, Kyle removes wife from her Instagram. There are things going on in the world. There are things that are actually happening in this world. Please stop covering who takes what off their Instagram bios. Just stop it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know if I follow. So Coyle took wife off of her Instagram, so she just calls herself a cast member of the Real Houses of Beverly Hills? No, not from that part. The other part. What other part is there where she says that she's a wife? Oh, to whom? Okay, I'm not doing this anymore.

[Erica Jane]

Well, and then, you know, then we've got Kyle going to Morgan's concerts on the sidelines, and people are speculating, is this Kyle's way of getting back at Mauricio? Which is so funny because it's so. Oh, Kyle, too.

[Ben Mandelker]

Really?

[Erica Jane]

Well, I'm moving. I'm taking name wife off, and then I'm gonna stand right in Morgan's concert, you know, right on the sidelines. You know what? Backstage.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Well, if you don't want the rumors, you don't do this and that. Yes. You don't do this and that, and you don't do the video, and you don't do pick. You don't do a pickup at the airport. You don't just say, let's move on. Exactly. No more this and that. Like I said originally, I mean, the last thing you ever want to do is this and that.

[Erica Jane]

Oh, these people are so crazy and they're so gossipy. I don't care if somebody wants to get a separation, but not to get. To not get divorced and date other people. Who cares? I don't think there's one way. You have to do it. I approve of this separation so far.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wait, are you saying that you're pro this and that? I mean, don't do this and that.

[Erica Jane]

Well, it's just funny, Dorit saying that, because on White Lotus, that's a big thing, because the character Greg is back on there, and one of the other, like, criminal guys is Walton Goggins is like, so what do you do? And he's like, oh, you know, little this and that. And Walton Goggins goes, oh, yeah, that's a good business. You Know, I do a little this and that. He's like, yeah, a little this and that. Not pretty strong industry. So it's like criminal speak. And Dorit's like, I mean, you don't just go on doing this and that, because that's kind of what BK does as well. So it's like a nice tie in with my. With my favorite and that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Garcel's like, well, it's hard to think that Mauricio is not going to move on with his life when car was so public. And Morgan with picking Morgan up at the airport and hanging out with her. I mean, thank you, Garcelle, for saying the things that we're all saying. You know, I always forget, like, I just always forget that Garcelle's actually such a good housewife, because she really does call it all out. I think it's just that, like, in the past, her personal stories have been so boring that, like, sometimes in my mind, after the season's over, I think, like, yeah, Garcelle's fine. But then when you actually see the season happening, you're like, oh, thank God for Carcel. Like, she's the only one saying these things.

[Erica Jane]

Well, she's basically the voice of the audience, right? Because she goes and reads what the audience is saying, and then she brings all that shit up right to the show, which most of them pretend none of that stuff's happening. And she's like, well, the. The show said, Erica, that you've stolen money from poor people. And what about these earrings? And what about this? Like, she'll get everything we're talking about and bring it. So I like it. It's like, audience mess.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I think that Marisa was like, the writing's on the wall, and unfortunately, it's neon and really annoying. So if she can do this, I can. I can go and have my fun.

[Erica Jane]

But I love that they showed the clip of Kyle and Morgan getting that tattoo when Kyle's getting a tattoo, and she's like, you need to get a K on yourself. And they ask how she. How they met, and Morgan's like, oh, she stalked me. She stalked me. And Kyle's like, oh, yeah, I did. I did.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Kyle was, like, getting, like, a tattoo of Morgan, but not of Mauricio. So Dorit is like, so does Sutton talk to her regularly? Because they're very close with the this and the that. And Garcelle's like, well, I think so. I mean, what's your beef with her anyway? Gee, my beef with her? Are you joking? It feels like you have rose tinted glasses. When it comes to any kind of Sutton's behavior, it's when you think it's all acceptable.

[Erica Jane]

That was a copper tinted. I don't care what anybody said. Please get out of here, Renee, this is not your scene. Now, you don't think Zed never does anything wrong? Just. No, no, no, no. And she's like, well, and I'm just a cruel, raging. And she goes, well, you were at Caviar, Caspia. She wasn't cruel to me. She wasn't cruel to me, really. And then we see a flashback of that stuff of Parit and all that. And Garcelle's like, well, that was mean and it was really cruel. But at least she's not making you wear a khaki jumpsuit with name them as a name tag. So you got off easy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Also, the thing is this. When Sutton's cruel, she's very funny. When you're cruel, it's just me. And so you got to be funny about it. Well, I think that seeing something in the moment would have been refreshing. Kind of like, you know, Belvedere with the carcass out. So Carcelle's like, I get it. I won't change. But I get.

[Erica Jane]

It's like, will truth be told, as long as Carcel is doing Saturn's bidding, never speaking up when Saturn goes below the belt. Oh, please. You fucking victim. You are just as bad. You've been walking around calling that lady an alcoholic for years. Come on now. No one's crying for you, Dorit.

[Ben Mandelker]

And we had to watch the Fox Force Five at their peak. Okay, Queens of defending each other. I don't want to hear it.

[Erica Jane]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Garcelle's like, well, where do we go from here? Well, unfortunately, Beverly Boulevard is one way, so we'll have to go down to Wilshire first. And then after that, you just come up Cannon. No, no, no. I mean, where do we as friends go from here? Well, I'll be going to Encino. Okay, you're a very literal person. I get it.

[Erica Jane]

So if Sutton gave you a Kelly, would that change things? And she goes, absolutely. Give me a purse and it will be over and done with in a second. She'd be my best friend. I'd be calling her. Is she going to give me a Kelly or you just.

[Ben Mandelker]

What if it's a Kelly, Ben? Simone. I don't know what that is, but I'll take it. Commercials.

[Erica Jane]

Here comes one right now.

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[Erica Jane]

Now put it down. We're gonna try another one.

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[Erica Jane]

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[Erica Jane]

So now we go to the Godfrey Hotel, which I'm surprised. This is where they're having their. I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is the second time this season they've gone here, actually. So this is where Sutton's fashion show is going to be. And they're setting it up, and, you know, all. There's going to be a DJ and everything. They're doing it on the rooftop, and. And Jennifer Tilly shows up. Hello. Hi, Satin. How are you? Hello. Hello. Can we get a bellhop around here? We've got an Oscar nominee. Can we get up to there? So they go up to. There's Kent the bellhop comes over, and Jennifer Tilly's like, oh, Kent the bellhop. The most glamorous bellhop I've ever seen.

[Erica Jane]

Because he's got this big, long hair, and he's like, yes, that's me, Kent. Like, kent, condition. Condition, Kent. Okay. You need to condition. So they're ooing and awing over him, and Avi's, like, getting all the clothes out, and Sutton's like, don't go so fast, Avi. Don't go so fast. He's like, everyone's trying to bite. Micromanage me right now. It's a fashion show. Fashion. Oh, my God. This is the fashion show for Sutton's line. Can we all calm down? You've got a few, like, pleather placemats that you're using as skirts and, like, some old, like, golf boy. Golf ball boy clothes. Come on, calm down.

[Ben Mandelker]

Listen, press is gonna be there. WWD is coming, which I know you think is Women's Wear Daily. It actually stands for World Wrestling Daily. They're coming. Vogue is coming as. And Vogue, their former manager, he's coming. Celebrities. Non celebrities. Mainly non celebrities. Buyers. People from Arkansas who are staying at the Godfrey have a complimentary ticket to the rooftop. They'll be there. I just want it to look good so that the business looks good.

[Erica Jane]

Yeah. So they're, you know, getting set up, and she's like, I think we need practice with the models. Like, oh, God, So obvious. Avi and Sutton just sit there, and the models have to walk around this pool that's kind of their Runway or whatever. And so Avi is just way too in it. He's like, oh, my God. Drum roll. Lights, clapping music. And go. We are ready. I want more thin people. Dangerously close to a body of water. Jeans.

[Ben Mandelker]

This. The pool had me scared. It was also very reminiscent of don't tell Mom. The babysitter's Dead. So Avi is, like, yelling, and Kent, the bellhop slash model manager is getting everyone ready, and they're coaching all the models going around. So then Jennifer Tilly comes out, and she's like, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. And we see Jade walking. And then Jennifer. I love Jennifer. They're giving Jennifer tips on how to walk. Walk, you know, everything. And she goes, okay. So Sutton calls me up and asks if we'll walk in her show. And I was like, sure. It'll be so much fun, you know, but, like, I don't think. I don't think Sutton realizes that I'm a celebrity, and I've actually walked in fashion show. And they slot you in the last minute, and they do other rehearsals and lighting without you. And then you show up 15 minutes before the curtain, and you go, okay, where do I stand?

[Erica Jane]

So she's doing her walk. She's like, sashay. Oh, what a great show. Best show I've ever seen. Hashtag sustainable, hashtag satin.

[Ben Mandelker]

She is crying where she goes, sashay. But I also love, like, Jennifer Tilly is so bubbly and lovely, and she's also so rich. But I love when she's like, I'm a celebr celebrity. I don't normally show up this early for a fashion show, but I'll do it for you, Sutton. But I love that she, like, asserted her. Her celebrity dom. That was just so great.

[Erica Jane]

And they go, so what is sustainable fashion? She's sustainable fashion. I don't really know what that is, to be honest. I don't know. I don't really know. But we're doing it today.

[Ben Mandelker]

As a celebrity, I'm not usually tasked with understanding what's going on, so whatever.

[Erica Jane]

So something's like, well, a few. You forgot to stop here at this part. And then keep on. But, okay, you're going to do great. You're great. You're going to be great. So then we get the party. Everyone's getting glammed up to go to the party. And Garcelle's so nervous because Jade's walking for the first time. Oh, to be the parent of a model. It's like my child at 16 years old, walking for the first time. You just. It's like you get so much more in. In looks, but you just expect so much less. You know, as the pupil model, I.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hope that he walks. So then someone named Moi says, are you gonna cry? No. No, don't make me. Don't make. Don't make me cry. No. Then meanwhile, Erica and Renee are getting ready And Erica's like, well, my mother taught me to walk in pumps. I mean, really big stacks and stuff like that. And today we put her in pump wobbly wobbles, Mother putting me through all this stuff that she can't even do herself.

[Erica Jane]

So then we go to Bo's, and she's like, well, I don't want to look better than the bride at the wedding, but it's gonna happen. Do me up, boys. Lemongrass, vanilla.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then Sutton and Porter are getting their glam done, and Sutton's like, I'm a little nervous that I left. I mean, we should have done this at the hotel. I mean, let me FaceTime BB before, so. So, by the way, I am a little surprised she is not getting glam downstairs at the. At the hotel. Hello, Godfrey. Thrower is sweet. She's throwing an event upstairs and putting you on tv.

[Erica Jane]

Yeah. And that's not close either to where she is.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, it's very far. I'm surprised that she's doing it all the way over there. So they FaceTime Reba. And Reba's like, oh, so terrible about. Terrible about those planes.

[Erica Jane]

Right?

[Ben Mandelker]

God, it's. It's almost like some malicious code got into the system. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

[Erica Jane]

And then we find out my mother spent the whole day at the airport, 13 hours trying to get here to tell me she's proud of me, and she never got back. But the fact that she stayed in airport for. You know, she didn't even stay in labor for 13 hours. You know, I didn't come out. She finally just had him just give her some drugs until she fell asleep, and then had him take a basketball and push down on her stomach until I popped out. Out, you know, my head. I had to wear a helmet. I had to wear a helmet for a while. She's not a patient woman, but she stayed in that airport for 13 hours.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I FaceTimed her, and I said, mother, that airport sure looks like your kitchen. She said, no, I'm actually in the obon pan, and there's a very common style in the South. And I said, I didn't realize that, because I'm pretty sure you're in the kitchen. And she said, no, I am definitely at the airport, and I've been here for 13 hours. I said, fine, I will take your word for it, but I also would like to see that receipt from Obama Pat. And she said, guess what? I forgot to get the receipt. So I just have her word. But she was there for 13 hours. I'm pretty sure.

[Erica Jane]

If it makes you feel bad, I was sitting at the airport bar, and there were a group of people looked like they were wearing dish rags. So I clapped and I said, good job, honey.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Reba is like, well, she's like, I was excited to come, and she goes, but I think you would have enjoyed it. Well, I'm not sure I would have enjoyed it. Probably would have had the worst time of my life with all those Hollywood liberals. But I would have enjoyed your success. Assuming it did become a success, which we know it won't be because. Because, let's be honest, it's a fashion show for a boutique. It's not even a fashion label anyway. I am so proud of you on paper.

[Erica Jane]

Just have them edit that in a few times. Okay, can you please leave me alone now? All right. This plantation doesn't plant itself, right? So the Sutton's like, well, I just wanted my mother here to tell me that she's proud of me, basically. I mean, I did this whole thing just so people would say, I'm proud of you. And she did it. So I guess, you know, I can stay home now. Just kidding. Someone needs to wear that name of tracksuit. So then we go to Ariba, and she's like, what are you wearing tonight? And she goes, I'm wearing a very risque outfit, Mother. It's pretty backless. And she's like, as long as it's not frontless. Good Lord.

[Ben Mandelker]

I like that. So now let's go back over to the Godfrey. So everyone's getting into makeup. Sutton shows up, and Trixie's singing. She's, like, dripping diamonds and gold. Living like a queen. Every day is a part Every night is a dream Every moment is a movie Just like a scene My life is glamorous that's right. Glamorous doesn't rhyme with scene or dream or queen, but glamorous. Glamorous.

[Erica Jane]

So it's arrivals, and people are like, hey, Kyle, anything to say about taking the word wife off your Instagram? I'm not talking to press. Please, Kyle.

[Ben Mandelker]

Valet.

[Erica Jane]

I won't.

[Ben Mandelker]

I won't do it. I won't talk to the press. I won't do it. No, no, no. Not this. Not at this difficult time for my family. I won't talk to the press. I just don't want to be asked a million questions. I mean, it was bad enough after I did the press junket for Halloween, you know, back, back and badder than ever. But, like, now, now, doing even these questions, it's just too much. For a working actress.

[Erica Jane]

Yeah. So, yeah, you're very famous. So then everybody's arriving, and Jennifer Tilly is, you know, saying, telling everybody they look amazing. She's like, satin. Did a great job putting this party together. There's a huge crowd. There's so much fashion press, like, major press. You know, there's really quite a buzz in there. It's just so exciting. I'm just happy I'm walking in the show because I really like people giving me attention.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's so great. So then Kathy arrives, and they're gonna get drinks and everything. And Dorit gets her Belvedere club soda, three lemons, again, does not request the carcass be out. So this is really a new. A new page for Dorit.

[Erica Jane]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, well, I'm curious if I will get an apology with this invite to the fashion show or if I'm just here to fill a seat. And if I do fill a seat, will I get paid? So then what was it, Here or the bus stop?

[Erica Jane]

Which would you prefer?

[Ben Mandelker]

Sheena's there. Hi. Hi, Kyle. How are you? And she's talking to people and everything. And then Kyle then leaves Sheena to go talk to Erica's mom. Poor Sheena. It's like, hi, I'm sorry. I gotta talk to a different person who's not even a cast member of the show. Sorry.

[Erica Jane]

Okay. And Kyle's carrying a big mug of beer that they're all making fun of her about. And then Sutton comes to Garcelle and Bose, and their son's like, what's been going on? My head has been, like, in. In the sand or my lapt. And Bos is like, do you need a breathing exercise? She goes, well, after this is over, you can congratulate me. But now just pray for me. Just pray. She's like, all right, girl, I'm fine. I'll just pray.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I think that for Sutton, there's a void. And validation from her family, from her mother, validation from Christian, who thought she was just gonna wither away without him. This is all to say, look, what I can do, I'm gonna prove you wrong. I can have a fashion show on top of a hotel. And I think she'll always have that need. So what I'm trying to say is this is a very expensive way to not deal with her issues.

[Erica Jane]

It's a very expensive way to get people to say, I'm proud of you. So whatever, you've got the money, go for it, you know? So then Dorit and Kyle are catching up, and they're talking about Mauricio. She's like, oh, I'm better today, you know? Like, I know TMZ reported that, like, I went to a concert to, like, make Mauricio jealous, but, like, really, like, that's how they think I made them jealous. Really? Standing, watching a concert. I mean, come on. And then we see the tabloid photos of Kyle doing just that and showing love. Kyle Richards spotted supporting Morgan Wade at her show. And she's like, well, if I'm gonna make him jealous, it's gonna be a lot more than in those photos, trust me. I'm getting somebody's name tattooed on me where your. Your arm is starting to look like a signing sheet. Right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, it was, like, a very weird thing to see those photos, and it was, like, very strange. But then Mo did text an apology. Oh, but, you know, you can have a little bit more discretion. It's like, yeah, but, like, have more discretion. Like, be, like, smarter than that. Like, I do feel like that the person he was with, like, it was, like, a little weird that the paparazzi happened to be there, and it looked, like, a little strange, like, the leg like this. Like, what a. Like, it's all her fault. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think that he knew, but I'm, like, not so sure about the other person.

[Erica Jane]

Oh, God. So, yeah, so she's saying, listen, I mean, I don't know what the situation is with those photos, but, I mean, it seems, like, suspect.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay.

[Erica Jane]

Like, I mean, he's not exactly Brad Pratt. No, I mean.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, stop stealing your sister's line. Yeah. So Kyle's like, will any of them learn their lesson? So then Kathy's like, guys, hello, everyone. I think I may have broken my knee. They're like, what? Just now? What happened? Yeah, there were these little steps, and I had on a sandal, and I went flying, and I hit my hand. It's like, you know, your hand's not your knee, but that's okay.

[Erica Jane]

I hit my hand, and somehow now I can't bend my knee. It really hurt getting into the car. You know, cars are very small now. I've bruised my head. That was the mailbox, Kathy. The what? Say the hordivores.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, hors. Oh, yeah, the hors d'oeuvres. No, I'm sorry. I love Kathy Olton. She's hilarious. How does she not know how to say hors d'oeuvres?

[Erica Jane]

I think she. I think it's one of those. Those things you say you Know, like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like a joke. Like a jokey version of it. Yeah, if I'll accept that. That's like, when you say tar. Yeah. So everyone takes their seats. It's like, this guy Nick is like, everyone, please take your seats, please. And Kathy's like, well, I haven't mentioned it, but Dorit could do the introduction because she's so into fashion and she can do all the narrating. So maybe she could, you know. That's a good idea. Let's have Dorit narrate this fashion show. I'm gonna go tell someone.

[Erica Jane]

If you're gonna say Dorit should introduce everybody. Sutton's gonna kill you. It's her fashion show, Kathy. It's like, oh, no. Well, you know, that's why we should all help her. So I'll be right back. So backstage, Sutton's just freaking out back there, and she's, like, hiding behind a plant to, like, chug a drink. She's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's chugging the plant. It's getting really bad. She's like, I'm gonna fuck this up. I'm gonna this up. And Ken's like, no, you're not. I have been feeling petrified, scared, nervous, wildly sick to my stomach. Must be what my mother felt like every time she talked to me on the phone. So then Kathy. So Kathy walks. She doesn't. When she goes backstage, she walks up the Runway and through the entrance where the models come out.

[Erica Jane]

Like, what is she doing? I was like, oh, my God, Kathy. I haven't been this embarrassed since Mauricio took a picture with some slut in an airport. So she's like, sudden, it's me, Kathy Hilton. Okay, now listen. Sudden. Did you need to read? Because to read would be happy to introduce the people, and she can do all the narrating. We are not narrating. This is not. It's a real fashion show, Kathy. Oh, I know. That's why you need narration.

[Ben Mandelker]

And by the way, when Kathy comes backstage, there's, like, a cloud of smoke and fog. It's like, such. It's so bizarre. So Sutton's like, fashion shows don't get MC. This is not 1955, nor is it the brownstone in New Jersey. Okay? This is the red dress. This is not red dress in corduroy. No, this is the person. And the person that you wanted to do it is Doritos. Obviously, you're deranged.

[Erica Jane]

So they send her out, and then she's like, okay, we're ready. Let's go. So the music starts, and then Kathy just walks out from where she came, which is down the Runway. And she's limping. She's like, oh.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everyone's like, oh, my God, the music's playing.

[Erica Jane]

So.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then she's saying, hello. Hello. And then she sees Erica's mother. And so she goes up to her and she's like, like, hi. How do you do? Nice to meet you. Good to see you. How are you? Very hello there. And shaking. Shaking too.

[Erica Jane]

Good to see you.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then the model comes down the Runway and is, like, smiling and just literally shoves Kathy out of.

[Erica Jane]

She's like, I was cracking up during this whole thing. So finally she goes to sit down, and they're like, kathy, Kathy. Oh, my God. God. Oh, here's Kathy Hilton pulling focus. We shocked. No.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, by the way, Erica, like, stop on a very funny scene. So Bose is like, this is Kathy crashing the catwalk. And I have never seen it, not in all of my experience. So. So Kathy takes her seat and everything, and now we have a whole fashion show. The models go around, Jade comes around, Jennifer Tilly is going around, etc. And cows. Like, this looks absolutely beautiful. Which I expected no less from Sudden. I feel like this is looking very professional. No questions, please. No questions. Not right now. No, no.

[Erica Jane]

Yeah. So we see these clothes. I don't really get it. You know, they're pretty. Most of them are pretty plain. It's like, here's what you wear to work at the bank. And, you know, then here's a pleather skirt. It's like, I don't really understand. And then she really did send a guy down in khaki shorts and, like, a cotton polo shirt with sneakers. That's the guy I'm calling the golf ball boy. I don't really understand a lot of this stuff. It wasn't hideous, but I didn't. I don't know. Like, you can bury it and it'll. It'll just, like, turn into dirt. I mean.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I just. I just. I just didn't even bother. I was like, it's. If it's a fashion show for a boutique, I'm just not gonna pay attention to the fashion because it's just like. Like, here's what's at my store. So. So Erica's like, well, I don't think Sutton is destined to win a CFDA new designer. I don't think she's gonna win a FDA approved label. I don't think she's gonna win really anything with any letters, but applaud her in their new line.

[Erica Jane]

I Guess and Dorit, they say, so Dorito, you impress them. She's like, hold on. I've just received a fact. She's not into it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Jade comes down. They all applaud. You know, my first fashion show in New York City was for Calvin Klein. And I'm not competing with my son, but Calvin Klein.

[Erica Jane]

I wouldn't compete with my son because I've already won, so. God, I miss Calvin.

[Ben Mandelker]

I remember being scared out of my mind. So to see Jade walk out and not realizing where he even is. I appreciate that.

[Erica Jane]

So Jennifer Tilly comes out in, like, a sweater dress thing, and she's just like, it's me, Jennifer Tilly. I've been to the Oscars. And so she has her charmed, charmed, charmed, charmed. So she does her strut down the Runway, and the Kyle's like, oh, my God. This, like, so important is that, like, I hope that somebody's proud of her. Like, really? Anything, anyone, you know, that's really all she needs. So Sutton gives a speech and she's like, guys, if you're not cringing enough already, I'd like to give a speech. My 22 year old daughter's here. I hope she's proud of me. I hope. Are you proud of me? Are you? Say it louder, God damn it. You want your allowance this month? You are taken out of that trust. She's proud of me. She nodded. She. My mama wanted to be here, but she's not here. So that's something. I'm not going to say that she missed her flight or something. I'm just going to make it sound like she ditched my show so you all will still hate her. But she's like, yeah, I hope she's proud of me. And, you know, I want you all to tip your waiters, and I just want to say, waiters, I hope you're proud of me. Okay? All of you are proud of me.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Porter, I just want to say thank you for being the greatest gift a mother could have, which is a daughter who's named after an employee. Okay, Porter, get over here. Gonna give you some boxes to bring downstairs.

[Erica Jane]

Also a steak, so take the stuff to mama's car. Okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

So now it's after the show. They're backstage, and Garcelle is, like, hugging Jade and she's so proud, and she's like, I am so proud of you. Who taught you how to walk like that? YouTube. Oh, okay. Is that also where you're learning everything? Yeah. Oh, dear. Less of a proud moment than I Thought so.

[Erica Jane]

They're telling. Kyle's telling Sutton, you know, she did a great job. And they're talking about how great Jade was. And Sutton's like, wow, dad. My friends, this group of friends congratulate me. And they're actually proud. Proud. Oh, for Christ's sake, Lady Jesus. So they're like, wow, you did great. You bought all those clothes and had people wear them. Good for you. And Catherine's like, what you showed us is that you could have a sustainable line but also be beautiful. It's like, if I saw a recycling trash can in a feather boa, I would say, you know what? But they're making an effort, and that's how I felt today. So good for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you know what? They have all inspired me in so many ways. They will never know. I'm truly grateful to call them all my friends. Even Pourri, who inspired me to never, ever talk to her again.

[Erica Jane]

And Garcelle's like, I am so proud. Just say you're proud of me. I'm so proud of you. Oh, thank God. It was worth it. It was worth it. It.

[Ben Mandelker]

Now, as we draw this episode to a close, Sutton, I want you to think about how all of us stood here and said how proud we are of you. And you had an entire group of people here saying how proud they are of you. And notice how that will never, ever fill in the void. Okay, have a great night.

[Erica Jane]

And that brings us to the end of Real Housewives of Beaverly. He, everybody. Thank you so much for joining us. Go sign up for Patreon for videos and traders recaps. Don't forget to do it on a web browser and not the Patreon app. An app, because Apple are monsters. And also, join us on our national tour. Get our links and ticket dates and ticket links and all that good stuff over at watch what crappens.com and we'll talk to you next time. Bye. Bye.

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