#2752 Denise Richards and her Wild Things S0101-02:Rants and Raves

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens Episode #2752 Title: Denise Richards and her Wild Things S0101-02: Rants and Raves
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: March 6, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode #2752 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the new Bravo series, "Denise Richards and Her Wild Things". This episode serves as a comprehensive recap of the first two episodes of the reality show, offering insightful commentary, humorous observations, and engaging discussions about Denise Richards' life in the public eye.

Overview of "Denise Richards and Her Wild Things"

"Denise Richards and Her Wild Things" chronicles the life of actress Denise Richards as she navigates her career, family dynamics, and personal challenges. The show provides viewers with an intimate look into Denise's relationships with her daughters, her management of multiple properties, and her efforts to maintain a semblance of normalcy amidst fame.

Episode 1 Highlights

• Introduction to Denise's Life: The first episode introduces Denise Richards juggling her acting career while managing her family. Denise's daughters, Sammy and Lola, are prominently featured, showcasing their contrasting personalities—Sammy embracing her OnlyFans venture and Lola delving into a more religious lifestyle.

• Adoption of Dogs: Denise and her partner Aaron visit McMillan Ranch to adopt dogs. The process is humorously chaotic, resulting in the family expanding their canine household beyond initial plans. Denise's excitement about the dogs is evident as she declares, “I’m so excited, girls, I’m so excited” ([07:01] Ben Mandelker).

• Family Living Arrangements: Denise reveals the challenges of accommodating extended family, including Aaron's parents and brother, which leads to renting multiple townhouses. The logistical juggling act is portrayed with comedic flair.

Episode 2 Highlights

• Pilates Retreat: Denise and Sammy attend a Pilates retreat in the Cayman Islands, introducing Sonia, a high-intensity Pilates instructor. The dynamic between Denise and Sammy highlights their supportive yet occasionally strained mother-daughter relationship.

• Sisterly Conflict: A significant portion of the episode focuses on the tension between Denise's daughters, Sammy and Lola. The conflict arises from Sammy dating one of Lola's best friends, leading to feelings of betrayal and strained communication.

• Site Visit and Resolution Attempt: Denise attempts to mediate the sisters' feud during a family barbecue in Malibu. The effort culminates in a tense but heartfelt reconciliation scene where both daughters express their love for each other despite their differences ([73:46]).

Host Insights

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie provide candid opinions and humorous takes on the unfolding drama:

• On Denise's Voice Change: Ben humorously remarks on Denise's gravelly voice, noting, “Denise's voice is so gravelly that I actually went back and looked up a clip from Wild Things just to hear what her voice used to be like” ([07:29] Ben Mandelker).

• On the Complexity of Reality TV Families: Both hosts discuss the complexities of portraying blended families on reality TV, emphasizing the added pressure of public scrutiny.

• On Teenagers in LA: The hosts explore the dichotomy of teenagers in Los Angeles, contrasting Sammy's OnlyFans success with Lola's deepening religious commitments, illustrating the diverse paths young people take in the entertainment hub.

Notable Quotes

• Ben Mandelker at [07:29]:
  “Denise's voice is so gravelly that I actually went back and looked up a clip from Wild Things just to hear what her voice used to be like.”

• Ronnie Karam at [04:16]:
  “I enjoyed it for the most part. I thought it was fun. Some fun camp.”

• Denise Richards at [07:42]:
  “I just wanted our home to be a sanctuary, which is why I installed three sex swings in every single room.”

• Sammy Sheen at [23:28]:
  “Mom, it's really hard explaining to my friends why my mom is on Only Fans.”

Key Discussions

1. Balancing Fame and Family: Denise Richards' efforts to balance her acting career with her responsibilities as a mother are a central theme. The hosts discuss the challenges of maintaining privacy and normalcy for her children in the spotlight.

2. Sibling Rivalry and Reconciliation: The tension between Sammy and Lola serves as a microcosm of broader family dynamics. The hosts analyze the authenticity of their conflict and the portrayal of reconciliation on reality TV.

3. Impact of Social Media Ventures: Sammy's success on OnlyFans is examined, alongside the societal perceptions of such platforms. Denise's support for her daughter's venture adds a layer of complexity to their relationship.

4. Adoption and Pet Management: The chaotic adoption of multiple dogs highlights the logistical and emotional strain of expanding one's family, especially under public scrutiny.

Conclusion

Episode #2752 of Watch What Crappens offers a lively and insightful recap of Denise Richards' new reality show, "Denise Richards and Her Wild Things". Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam expertly blend humor with critical analysis, providing listeners with a thorough understanding of the show's key elements without needing prior viewing. Their engaging dialogue, combined with notable quotes and structured sections, makes this summary a valuable resource for fans and newcomers alike.

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Transcript

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

Hi. What's going on with you?

[Ben Mandelker]

Not much. We're here today to recap the brand new series, Denise Richards and Her Wild Things. We're gonna recap. We're aspiring to recap the first two episodes in one episode here, but we may split it up. We'll see how it goes. Anywho, before we dive into that, of course we are continuing on with our national tour, the Mountain Stereo tour, which is resuming next week. We start off in Cincinnati, then we're going to go to Minneapolis and Toronto all next weekend. Then we're also the following weekend we're going to go to Charlotte, Atlanta and then we're going to go after that D.C. and Philadelphia. That's just how we're going to spend our march. We have more shows in April and May, but right now we're just talking March. So go to watch crappens.com to get your tickets. Also, you can watch us, not just listen to us by going to patreon.com watch for crappins. That's where you can do Check out Crappins on Demand. Also bonus episodes. We've been covering the Traders, the best show ever over There finale is happening tomorrow. Can't wait. Now, here's a note about Patreon that you may have missed on our Beverly Hills recap, which is that Apple has introduced an Apple tax. So if you sign up for Patreon, if you were a new person to Patreon, if you were signing up through Patreon, you will be charged more money because Apple has added a surcharge. So if you sign up by just going through your browser to Patreon, it will cost the normal amount. So this is our way of saying if you do decide to sign up with us on Patreon, please go through your browser so you don't spend excessive money just to pay Apple. There's no need if you've already signed up. If you're already a supporter, you're set, you're good to go. But for new supporters, just use your browser instead of the Patreon app because it's through the Patreon app, assuming you got it through the Apple Store, where you will find your issues really annoying. It's annoying that we have to add that on, but you know what? Thanks, Apple. Thanks for making all of our lives more annoying.

[Ronnie Karam]

But heads. All right, let's get on with Denise Richards and her Wild things. Denise Richards getting another solo show, guys. Here we are.

[Ben Mandelker]

Here we are. What you think about it, Ranny?

[Ronnie Karam]

I liked it. It's a little Kim Ziakish. You know, not as trashy, but it's got kind of those vibes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

But I enjoyed it. It was interesting seeing her daughters because we really didn't see that much of her daughters. I kind of like how the trauma of the daughters has, like, spread out in different ways. Like, you've got one who's like, I'm only fans now. And then you've got the other one who's like, super religious. It's interesting watching how whatever has gone on in their lives has worked their way through two people in completely different ways. So that's pretty interesting to watch. I enjoyed it for the most part. I thought it was fun. Some fun camp.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, there's some amusing parts in it. I mean, these types of shows are not really my jam, generally speaking, like the half an hour in the lives of a celebrity. It's kind of light and fun and, you know. You know, it's fine, though. I mean, we, you know, I love Denise Richards. You know, I. I love that she's just like, I don't care. Dog shit. I'll roll around and I don't care. But you know, I would not say that these four shows are my jam. When Bravo rolls these shows out, like, once per year, there's some sort of version of this. Whether it's this, whether it's Kim Zolciak, whether it's like someone getting ready for a wedding, but, you know, this is fun.

[Ronnie Karam]

The answer. Okay, was that, yeah, this. I believe that. Back in the TV gasm or trash talk TV days, I recapped the original Denise Richards reality.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's complicated. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Now, I don't know if I did the whole thing or if I just did a couple episodes, but I remember getting really into that one because it was kind of boring, you know, and she has this, like, weird relationship with her dad. There's. That was. That was what that one was about. He's like, you're hot, honey. Show it off. Or whatever that. I remember that one being a little odd. But it finally got good at the end when she was bitched out. A reporter who wasn't doing what she wanted, like, she lost her at them. And then it got really good, and then it was canceled. So I'm interested to see. I'm basically rooting. Whatever reporter comes in and pisses her off, because that was the best part of the last one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. All right, well, let's start off with the first episode. Here we see Denise, like, here we go. And we see all these clips from the show and everything, and she's. We just see lots of different things happening. You know, if someone wants to see my boobies, I'm like, thank you. And then I'm just trying to balance everything. I'm an actress.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm. You know, I'm a. I do the whole Hollywood thing. So they show all of her stuff, and then we see her hugging Sutton because she's going to have guests. She's going to. Just. Don't worry. It's not just her. It's also housewives and stuff. And then we see her daughters, Sammy and Lola. And Sammy's driving, and Lola's like, you don't like bright colors? And she's like, yes, I do. Look at my nails. And she's like, yeah, I don't like bright colors. Jesus doesn't like bright colors. She, like, flips off her sister. It's gonna be wild.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm a cool mom. All right. Like, hey, are we. Are we calling cuckoo birds? You know? You know, being a parent in the public eye and in Hollywood is really hard, especially when your mom and dad are Denise Richards and Charlie Sheen. By the way, Denise's Voice has gotten more gravelly than ever. I was like, damn. Denise's voice is so gravelly that I actually went back and looked up a clip from Wild Things just to hear what her voice used to be like. And she was. Back then, she was like, hi, can.

[Ronnie Karam]

I get a ride, please?

[Ben Mandelker]

And I was like, hi, can I ride? I'm Denise Raiders. I was like, this is a woman who's lived some life over 20 years.

[Ronnie Karam]

This woman has lived some life, and she's had a nice pack of Marlboros through the whole thing, for sure.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, oh, yes. I guess you got a up mom and a up dad. And I got up kids now. So mom. So it's wacky. She's. I'm just trying to keep the family together, and these kids make it so hard, you know? And then we get the theme song. So then the kids are driving, and Denise is so excited. She's gonna get to see. And they go to McMillan Ranch, where they're meeting Aaron and Eloise, and guess why. They're gonna get dogs, guys. Lots and lots of dogs.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna babies. Let's go get the blondie. There are. Yeah. So they go into this space where there's, like, all these golden retrievers just jumping around and everything. And Denise is like, can I sit down with them? And they're like, well, whatever you want. Aaron's like, you can do whatever you want. They're your dogs.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Oh, hey, dogs.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, why do we have three golden retrievers? Okay, here's what happened. Okay? Sammy got a golden retriever, but then we found out that that golden retriever had a brother. So we wanted to get the brother, but then we got there, and the brother had a sister, and the sister had a brother, and the brother had his cousin, and the cousin. Well, here we are with Rita. The math doesn't make sense, does it? Because didn't she say the brother had a sister? So we went to get the sister, and then the sister had a brother, so that's three. But then she mentioned another one. She's like. But then. Then we found out that the brother had a sister. So you're just saving three of them and not the fourth one?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, then we found out the brother belonged to Casper Van Dien, so we adopted him too. So Casper's part of the family too now, which is exciting. Nice reunion from Starship.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. I call Casper Van Deen Fart Face. So, you know, that was good. So, yeah, he's got that dog and so they're petting the dogs and the trainer's like, just now, the trainer hot. I mean, God, you gotta love LA because, like, every menial job is a hot person. It's like, just be careful when you sit down on this grass, right? I can't promise you there's not little landmines there. It's like, I don't care. Have you been to my house? It's one big dog poop as it is, all right?

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, I was married. I was married to Charlie Sheen. Sitting in shit was the least of the problems over in that household. Aaron's like, well, which. Which dog do you think shows any signs of anything for, like being a service dog? And so they are. Not only are they getting dogs, but the dog, one of the dogs is going to be a service dog for Eloise, who's special needs and has a chromosome situation. She said. Denise tells us that Eloise, what, you know, we know from Beverly Hills, but she reminds us that Eloise was. They adopted her and wasn't until she was five that they discovered that she had a deletion on chromosome 8, which has caused development delays with her speech. And she's not hard of hearing, nor is she autistic, but she needs a service dog that will be a good match for her. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they're asking who the primary caretaker is. She's like, not Lola. Not Lola's like me. Sometimes when I'm not working, I will do it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Lola has the most sing songy voice I've heard in quite some time. You have Denise Richards, who is the opposite. Like, this is of a sing song, was the Richards. And then Lola, every time Lola talks, it really is like, well, I think that I can maybe do that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Give it 20 years. It's like a girl showing up, like, have a mom, a famous mom, you know.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. Oh, the Lord does this for me. So Denise, like, Lola work, Lola works in a restaurant, she's a hostess and she lives at home. And I love, I love her being home. I wish Sammy were still there, though.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So the trainer is like, okay, well, you guys need training on training dogs, right? Yeah, that's gonna happen. Yeah. I got pregnant with Lola when Sammy was six months old. And I filed divorce from their dad when I was six months pregnant. I always say Lola's like a fairy, you know, she's soft, she's live, she's got Charlie face, you know, and she's not your typical 19 year old growing up. I mean, you know, like, I mean, she doesn't even have a thong. Okay, what bus did this kid come off of? Right.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think that Lola is exactly a 19 year old kid from LA, because like teenagers in LA are either. They're like literally both of her daughters, they're either like tatted up, going on only fans going to raves, or they're like Lola, which is that they've like become born again super Christian, you know, going to Mosaic or whatever. Like, this is, this is so. These kids are so la, both of them together.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, and it's also very Malibu, right? Because Malibu is a different animal. I mean, that's a completely different world living out there. I mean, that is kind of like living in the country in a way. They're so separated from stuff. Like you can tell like how they dress and stuff. They're wearing like little, you know, like cotton flower dresses and they're barefoot. It's very. Yeah, it's very Malibu surfy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, very surfy. But yeah, there's so many of these kind of like teenagers that are in LA who are crazy born again. It's. It's funny, people think of LA as this place. The religion goes out the window and we're all heathens out here. But there's a very strong kind of like born again vibe that happens especially from these like young actors who are kind of like lost at sea. And they all kind of find community at these like, that, these like progressive.

[Ronnie Karam]

Churches, etc, because it's like rebellion, you know, like when you're young, you're more rebellious. And in la, which is kind of a God it is being a rebel to be a Christian. So absolutely. It is crazy. So it's like punk, you know, it's like punk rocks. Like, fuck, yeah, I'm into Jesus now. Yeah, frick. Yeah, man. So they get the dogs in the car and Denise just keeps going, oh, my God, I'm so excited. I'm so excited, girls, I'm so excited. And they keep so excited. I'm starting I'm so excited meter for Denise.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, oh my God, this is hilarious how she keeps saying the same word. And then cut to this morning. Last night I stayed up making this like chocolate bar on my Instagram. And so I was document. I was documenting the entire process of making Dubai chocolate. So I had about like, I don't know, probably like 10 or 12 stories. So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna make that into a highlight so people can see my Dubai chocolate making. And so as I'm assembling all these stories Together. Every single story starts with me going like this. All right, all right. Okay. All right. I was like, oh, God, I'm Denise Richardson right now. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. All right, all right, all right. We got this out. All right. We did this. All right. We did that.

[Ronnie Karam]

How'd that Dubai chocolate turn out?

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, it was okay. It was very good. Like, I'm definitely gonna eat more of it. I made a few mistakes. The first thing is that I used baker's chocolate because I was in a store, and that was the only melting chocolate that they had. So I was like, oh, it'll be fine. Chocolate's chocolate. I'm not that chocolate chocolate. But like, this. For this application of a candy bar, you know, it's. This will be fine. So. But I actually think I should. I would have been better off using nicer chocolate. Second of all, I put too much chocolate in the mold, so it was very thick. Third of all, the filling, I mean, it was delicious, but, you know, it does take time to do this. It's like, a little bit more time than I was expecting. I thought you just make the filling, melt some chocolate and just slather it together and put in the fridge. But it sort of took more time. But also. I mean, maybe it took time because I was also documenting it, but, like, as delicious as it was, the texture was great. It kind of just tasted like a fancy peanut butter cup. Like, it was just kind of, like, peanut buttery kind of filling. Even though it's pistachio. It's pistachio. And you got the kataffi in there, which is shredded phyllo dough, which adds, like. Like, really nice texture. Overall, it was, like, really tasty. I don't know if I feel compelled to do it again. It wasn't like, this is out of control. This is a game changer. But I also have to hold space for the fact that it was my first time ever using candy bar molds. And I probably. There's probably a lot of user error on my part, so it was a fun experience. Very messy. And, you know, five out of 10, I'll still eat it all. I'll eat it. Yeah. Honestly, it's kind of like that. It's kind of like, this is good. Get a peanut butter cup or get.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, a Hershey bar and just, you know, some things it's worth just. Yeah. Like, I was trying to perfect macaron for so long, and I finally did, and then I was like, but why they sell them? Yeah, like, they now sell. They. They actually sell really good macarons at Costco. Yeah, you can get them anywhere now that are pretty decent. So I was like, fuck that. I'm going back.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. If I. If I saw Dubai Chocolate out in the wild, I would totally buy it, but I don't. I think that there's, like, something to be said for, like, you know, there's like, with a candy bar with a filling like that, you want like the thickness of the chocolate to be certain. There's actually a lot of subtlety that goes into it that I did not possess. And I think, like, a good hack would be just get like a really high quality chocolate bar. Make the filling. The filling's easy to make. And then just slather the filling on top of the chocolate bar like a spread and then take a bite. I think it'll be honestly just as good as just making the bars yourself. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay. Okay. So then that's interesting because, you know, I'm not a big candy maker, so I wanted to know. So then we go over to talking, talking about how to take the dogs out. They're, you know, they're already fighting about who's going to take the dogs out. And the dogs have already pooped on the floor. So that's where we're at with it. And, you know, it's going to happen. You know, this house is just going to be full of dog poop and pee and these dogs are not going to get trained. I don't think that anybody in the audience was thinking, wow, there's a responsible family that's going to train dogs. Nope.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Karam]

They're just going to be pooping everywhere.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Denise, by the way, tells us about her, her living situation, which is not unlike the way that she got these dogs. Whereas the dog was like, well, there was this dog and we found. I had a sister and then we got this here. She says, well, Aaron's mom and dad and his brother came to stay with us for. But it's been over three years, so we decided we need more space. So now we rented a townhouse and I rented another one. Then I rented another one. So I've got three ones. An office, one's a studio, one's just a giant fuck dungeon. So, you know, we have a lot of fun in it. The dog shit will stay in one house, we'll work in the other. You know, I'll get on that big penis and the other. It's a fun time over here at the Richards compound.

[Ronnie Karam]

Is anybody surprised that Aaron PFEIFFER'S. Family are a bunch of fucking moochers who showed up, moved into their house, and then refused to move out to the point that she had to go get a different place. Nothing about that surprised me at all. What? Losers. Get your own house, you weirdos. Who does that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. That is so strange. And, like, why are they staying in the nice Malibu home while they're. While the rest of them are going to be in, like, a triple townhouse situation. Situation. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Weird. So then they go to Pilates. Denise and Sammy go to Pilates. She's like, I found us a new place to go to Pilates because my Pilates trainer is doing a retreat in the Cayman Islands. And she goes, where's that? She's like, it's in the Cayman Islands, honey.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they walk in, they meet Sonia. She's like, well, I saw high intensity. I thought I'd come here. So Sonia's like, yeah, well, it's definitely gonna be high intensity, but we'll take it easy. Which I would never believe from a Pilates instructor. So Denise continues talking, and she says, well, Sammy's my first born. She's 20 years old, and she's very confident. She's a confident young woman with bad tattoos. And it's just so interesting for me because when I moved to Los Angeles, I started acting when I was 20. So I see so much of her, too, except for the whole acting and on the road to fame thing. But now I want. How. But now I know how my parents felt when I did certain things in my career.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And we didn't even have subscription back then. She can just imagine what she's doing. You know, Sammy, she's got a good career and some dead eyes. I'm just real proud of her. So then we just watch them do their Pilates, and it's really hard for Sammy. She's like, oh, my God, Mom. Like, it's, like, hard to believe that you're not struggling. No, she's not struggling. She's been doing this for years. She's a pro. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I don't know. Only fans money is a specific kind of money. Like that's a lot of money. You're not going to make that. That working at the ice cream shop. And you're not going to make it modeling either. So what's her last name? Sheen.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know. To be honest. I don't know. I think those people working at Van Lee probably earn a pretty penny based.

[Ronnie Karam]

On how expensive she make on only fans. Let's see, $3 million. Sammy Sheen, 20. The daughter of actor Charlie Sheen and actress Denise Richards has reportedly earned more than 3 million bucks since launching her only fans account. After her.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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So she's like, yeah, it's just really hard reading all the messages. It's like. It's like, a lot. It's like, yeah, I was upset for you because I know what it's like starting in this business and having people say certain things. So I wanted to join. I just felt like you had. I had to have your back.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's amazing. So she's like, well, Mom, I was kind of pissed that you made an Olipad. She's like, I was just trying to support you. She like, mom, it's weird. She goes, no, now, because I. You know, there were headlines that were, like, making fun of Sammy. So I've, you know, I was like, I'm gonna support my daughter, and I'll be on Only Fans, too. I mean, what mother wouldn't do that for their child?

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, Denise Richards, it turns out her. Her worldview is Costco. She's like, well, why get one when you can have three? It's like, so dogs. Three dogs, three townhouses. Like, why is there only one of us on there? Where it should at least be two of us on there. Let's see if we can get Lola in next. Oh, I love that.

[Ronnie Karam]

I wish my mom was like that. She's like, honey, I wanted to support you today, so I frigged myself on camera for some truck drivers. I'm like, thanks, Mom. That is so sweet. I made sure it was in the news, too, so don't worry about it. So this says, according to Denise Richards, as of March 29, 2024, Denise Richards making $2 million monthly. Holy mother.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow. God, that's wild.

[Ronnie Karam]

That makes me so gel. Like, why can't I have something to sell for $2 million a month? What the hell?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you could, Ronnie. Only fans. You could still do it.

[Ronnie Karam]

No one's gonna pay me that. I wouldn't make $5 on that thing. They'd pay me to turn my camera off. Maybe that's what I'll do. I'll just, like, subject. I'll just, like, start naked, and I'll just start putting clothes on. The more money I get.

[Ben Mandelker]

Do something called accept fans. It's like, here, I'm gonna. I'm gonna show news to everyone. Except fans.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's just being supportive, which is really funny. And she's like, mom, it's really hard explaining to my friends why my mom is on Only Fans. Okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

I love that being on Only Fans isn't embarrassing, but when your mom is on, it is embarrassing. And by the way, I don't have. I don't think there's any shame in going on Only Fans. I just think it's funny that, like, traditionally, the idea of going onto the Internet and, like, getting naked, traditionally has been viewed as something like clutching your pearls. But, like, she's like, oh, no, I'm fine with that. I just don't want my mother doing it. Which is hilarious.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was listening to some of the parents in my neighborhood talk, or maybe it was my sister telling me this. But at the school here in Lakeway, there's apparently a mom who has on the back of her car in carpool, it says, come to my only fans. She. She's like, written it on the back of her car as an advertisement for all the dads. Cause it's like some hot. So all the dads in the carpool line go to her only fans. I was like, that is so embarrassing for the kid, but also so fucking smart of that mother.

[Ben Mandelker]

So smart. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So your audience, it's the other dads.

[Ben Mandelker]

Other dads, yeah. So Denise is like, well, you know. Well, so. So Sammy's like, it's just, like, really hard to explain this to your friends. She goes, well, I get it. You have a lot of explaining to do with your friends, with both your parents. Because I really do. Yeah. But that's why we have a show. And she just looks at the camera like, am I right? Bravo. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's why I keep giving a sh. Goes, all right. By the way, I'm out earning you, so stop your bitching, okay? I've got three townhouses and a Malibu mansion to pay for. So now Denise is seeing Camille. And this is like a different Camille because it's not glammed up Camille at all. It's just like, regular, daily Malibu Camille. I've never seen this, like, Camille and glasses. Weird.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Everyday. Camille.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hi.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you. So good to see you. I'm excited to catch up on you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, you know, Camille and grammar and I became friends, like, 20 years ago because our husbands are sitcom actors. They were always up against each other, you know, because he got Frasier, you got Two and a Half Men. So, boom, they became friends. We became friends. Like, who won here? Who won here?

[Ben Mandelker]

And so we have the exes in the Housewives together, so. Hey, by the way, Camille, how old were you when you moved to. To Los Angeles? Let's see. I moved in 1997, so I was negative five years old. Okay, Camille, you don't have to. You don't have to play that. We know how old you are. Well, I think I was, like, 26, 27 when I moved to LA. Yeah. And I married Kelsey. And when I was 20, there's a lot of talking. I wish there was someone to help me say how old I was, you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Know, you moved here when you were 26, but then you married Kelsey when you were 28, but, you know, then you were married 14 years. But it was so rough on you when he left, you know, because you were so devastated, you know, because your whole world fell apart.

[Ben Mandelker]

Right? It was so upsetting.

[Ronnie Karam]

And the judgment from other people be made out to be like this awful human. Yeah, I got it. I got it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, we just get tossed to the curb and. God, how terrible the curb is.

[Ronnie Karam]

Anyway, so I get tossed to the curb with, like, $100 million. It was so hard. It's like, yeah, I never get divorced again. Even if we hate each other. I'm saying, well, you know how much these will take from me. They've already got my house. All right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's not easy being married to me, Aaron. And he's like, no, it's not. And then she said it, and, yeah, it's true, but you know. You know. No, I know that. How many? I. I'm not an easy person. He's like, yeah, I'm done. Yeah, I'm never getting divorced again. Even if we hate each other, I'm not getting fucking divorced, okay? So deal with it.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, I mean, look, if you insist on getting 5G again, fine, but we're getting different homes, you know, we'll just do something like that instead. But we're not gonna hate each other. You know what I mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't care if it means that I got Big Pharma on my back for the rest of my life. I am not getting divorced from this man.

[Ronnie Karam]

They're so romantic. So Camille's like, by the way, you look just, like, so gorgeous. You know, Last time I saw you, you were just frazzled coming off a boat in Positano. That was so rough. She was like, oh, my God, I didn't even know where I was. Positano. That's right. It was funny. You know, Last time I was there was with the housewives. Those Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we cut to her on her trip saying, this has been the worst trip I've ever been on in my entire life. And that is the truth. So she's like, talking about, like, yeah, when your kids were. Your kids were there in Positano. That's not. Well, Lola would not come because her and Sammy are fighting and they're not speaking at all. Could you believe that she passed up Positano because she's fine with her sister about some of stupid.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, you know, I don't know the details of their fight, but Sammy's ex boyfriend, Lola's, remain friends with them or, you know, point is, I think it's Lola. I think it's Lola's ex boyfriend. Sammy's been friends with him, right? No, Sam. Lola has. Sammy's, you know, like the sexier character name, right? Like in Damn Yankees, the. The devil. The devil's assistant is Lola, and she seduces people by being sexy. So I always think of Lola being the only fans one, but it's not Sammy's only fans one. And Lola is, like, the super Christiany one. I mean, this whole show is a mod. Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

So. And also Lolita. That, too. So just want to add to the case. So Denise is like, well, you know, they're both young. And I'm like, you're not. You're gonna have plenty of stuff to fight about in the future. There's nothing. So then Sammy tells us. The current beef between me and Lola started when I broke up with not my last boyfriend, but the one before that. Wait, like, sorry, I shouldn't say beforehand, but, like, I shouldn't. I shouldn't. I should say before that. I should. Shouldn't. I should say before him. Not that. It's not nice to refer to men as that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, so Lola's like. I mean, she always thought in her head that I wanted her boyfriend, but I didn't. Oh, yeah, she's gonna say that they've always been best friends, but I introduced them like, he's one of my best friends, but they were talking about me behind my back. I mean, she expected me to just drop him because she dropped him, but, like, he's still one of my best friends.

[Ben Mandelker]

Breaking girl code, if you ask me. I would never do that to a friend, let alone my sister.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, whatever. You started dating one of her best friends. She should have been pissed at you for that, for taking her best friend away from her. You don't get to, like, say that she can't be friends with Someone anymore. Especially since you moved on. Get over it. Team Lola on this one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, Team Lola sneak's like, well, I'm gonna do a family barbecue. And I, by the way, I haven't even looked at this. Look, these are all the rules of Malibu of what we can and can't have at a barbecue in a park in Malibu, right? Oh, God, the rules of Malibu. Yeah. I can't even believe it.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's a dictatorship. I mean, look at this Malibu party food and beverage container ordinance, otherwise known as no balloons, no plastic, no meat or fish trays or egg cartons. You can't have meat, fish, or egg cartons.

[Ben Mandelker]

Come on, that's odd. So actually, I think that they can't have the. It's the trays, I guess. The trays. There's no plastic. They want no plastic on those peaches.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, I thought she's saying you can't eat meat. The way she said it, she said no meat. What? And she's like, wait, that's what I thought, man. She's like, well, if I was a five year old, I'd be crying my eyes out if I had a birthday party in Malibu with no balloons. I mean, God, for Lola. We at least got her some strippers. And they were wearing plastic, I'm pretty sure.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, is chicken considered me? What the hell can we bring? Yeah, because I thought it was definitely when I. When I heard it first, I thought they said, no, me, meat or fish. But then reading it back, it's like, oh, it's like, no meat or fish trays. Like, you can't have the. All right, no. Guess that's what I say. Well, I grew up in Illinois, and you could bring whatever the you wanted to a picnic back there.

[Ronnie Karam]

Illinois. You show up to the picnic, you shoot a cow, you cook it right there with a plastic utensil. All right?

[Ben Mandelker]

This place, you could just leave garbage everywhere because tornado was going to come by soon and just wipe it all away.

[Ronnie Karam]

God's vacuum, we call it. So they go to this balloon store and Camille's like, why are we at a balloon store when the first thing on the list is no balloons?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, well, I will find something. So she tells this lady, yes, and we're doing a barbecue in Malibu, you know, hashtag snowflakes, am I right? And the rules are just crazy. I mean, look, this is the material that we could use. She like, okay, listen, I. I had a balloon store on the west side of Los Angeles. This is not my first time at the rodeo. Okay, let's see what we can do here.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're right. Because this lady is like, I've worked in la in service for a long time. So guess what we're gonna do? We're gonna treat this like a stupid fucking game, okay? Let's go around all these meaningless laws. So they start to. And Denise is like, you can bring bamboo forks and knives and straws. Me out of sugar. What the is that going to do?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's called eco party wear. I mean, one of them wild says, 100% natural. Geez, I don't even know people in.

[Ronnie Karam]

This town that are 100% natural anymore. What the Is this by implants at home too?

[Ben Mandelker]

So Denise is like, I don't think they're going to know that's plastic. I mean, do they even know they're what they're going to see as pl. They got a plastic police. What if I tell them it should sugar. It's a fork made of sugar. Stupid idiots.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she gets those forks and knives that are painted with silver so they look like they're actual silver. And she's like, you know what? Screw it. Let's just do this. All right? You ain't got bamboo cups or sugar cups or. What do we drink out of sugar cups now? I mean, come on. And she's like, yeah, you drink it, then you eat the cup.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, it.

[Ronnie Karam]

We're buying plastic.

[Ben Mandelker]

Actually, I've been on an all cup diet for about three weeks now. It's really wonderful.

[Ronnie Karam]

Terrible for my diabetes. So.

[Ben Mandelker]

It'S actually inspired by Native American traditions of eating the whole animal. So we just eat the whole cup, as long as it's a sugar can.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, my IBS got way worse when I finished that Diet Coke can. But, you know, it is what it is.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Denise and Aaron arrive at the at a park in Malibu and they're setting up stuff. And Denise is like, you know, when the girls were younger, we would do barbecues at the house every Sunday. Just brings everyone together. Be the girls, it'd be Charlie. It'd be a line of prostitutes. Just a fun night for everything.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. His parents there just taking home everything that's not bolted down. His brother stayed there a whole night trying to get the picnic table up. So that was something. So this is their big wacky family all together. And she's like, here's all our bamboo plastic ass plates. I'm funny your crap out of that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, I didn't know if people were watching us. Are they gonna arrest us? Who knows?

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, it would be entertaining to get arrested because I brought a plastic fork that was trying to make look like stainless steel. This is ridiculous.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right. Okay, so people are showing up. So their nephew Al shows up with his wife Lena, and then his parent, of course, Aaron's parents show up, like you said, with the Tupperware. And then it's always been one. You know, I've always been, you know, more the merrier. You know, that's my. That's my mindset when it comes to barbecues, townhomes, and golden retrievers. Okay, so the more the merrier. Everyone hop on in.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Brooke is also there, Charlie's ex wife. Like, they're really a blended family. She's like, yeah, yeah. I wanted to include Brock, Charlie's other ex wife, because, you know. Hey. Hey, Brooke. I wish you were still at that unit. I rented three of them. I ran a three. We could still be in the same unit together. She's like, oh, wow. Wow, sounds great, Denise.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's a lot of history there. I mean, her son is my daughter's brothers, and we're just a big blended family. Look, here comes Brooks Gardner. We love him. He does great work. We never hired him, but we just. It's a big family. We will. Oh, wait. Also, everyone, this is. This is Saul. He works at the Herz down by lax. Used him once about two years ago. I just want to make sure everyone's involved.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hey, where's Lola at? So Lola comes. Comes late and makes a plate, and so Al, the husband. Not the husband. The uncle, who's all, you know, tatted from head to toe. You know, like, his face is like a dollar sign or something. He's like, so, what's going on with you guys? And she's like, what? With who? With Sammy. He's like, yeah, like, you guys are beefing over a dude. She goes. I mean, she can just not let it go. Turn the other cheek. Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Denise goes up to Brooke. She's like, brooke, Brookie, my way. I love your hair. She's like, yeah, I went blonder, right? Yeah, I love it. So the reason why I wanted to do a family environment is because Sam and Lola have not spoken for a long time, and they were always really close. And then a year ago, we saw that they, like, love each other. They, like. She's like, yeah, like, we're really close. Like, I don't.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't think we even want to admit it. Yeah, she, like, calls me, like, eight times a day. Yeah. I think we're just, like, always gonna be that way. Like, we're, like, very, very, very close.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, no matter what happens, I know my sister's gonna come in and draw eyebrows. Brows on me. Because it looks like you don't have any eyebrows. Because in the clip, she. Lola, had done that thing where she bleached her eyebrows. That is a look. I'm sorry. I could just not ever get behind that look. That never. Some looks like people do, and I don't get it because I'm just, like, old and out of it. But then I get used to it, you know, this look. I just can't. Every time I see someone with that, I'm like, who tricked you into doing that? Why would you do that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, seriously. So Brooke is like. She's like, well, I don't know what it is about siblings, because sometimes just being complete opposites, you know, Bob is more of an introvert, like Charlie. And Max needs a playmate and wants to do something. Well, I don't know who these names are that you're just talking about, but I'm glad he came to the picnic. No plastic.

[Ronnie Karam]

By the way, they're my children, Denise. Are they made out of meat? Because they're not allowed on this fucking park.

[Ben Mandelker]

Watch out. The dictator of Malibu's gonna arrest you for having kids with, like, legs.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Al is talking to Aaron, and he's having, like, that manly talk where he's like, wow, as a man that's in the same family as me, like, us men don't really have any say with these women. These women folk. And Aaron's like, oh, you found that out, did you? Why you think I'm standing over here by myself putting lids back on food? Okay, welcome. Yeah, welcome to being a man.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, sorry. Go ahead. So then Denise is talking to Eloise and being like, hey, did you see There's a squirrel girl? And then Denise is like, you know, this is the longest day of those. Good. My daughters have gone through something like this. I think they just need to be done with it. So she sits them down at a picnic table. She's like, okay, girls, we need to work through this. Okay? We've got, as far as I can see, about 10 minutes before the Malibu police crack down on this plastic parade. So come on, let's. Let's hash it out.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, it only be successful if someone here was capable of holding themselves accountable. But, I think, like, also, she cannot cuss me out on and, like, be respectful. Yeah, can you do that? Can you not cuss her out and be respectful.

[Ben Mandelker]

The way you speak to me is, like, so rude. It's like, well, I wouldn't speak to you like this if you weren't such a dude. Okay, well, don't call her dude. She's your sister. I want you guys to replay your relationship.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I don't want to do that. Oh, it's like, I don't want to do that, cuz, like, why do you have to force it, mom, so. I'm not forcing anything. I'm just trying to make something happen, okay? Mom's always on Sammy's side.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, Lola says some crazy, and I feel like she always gets away with it because she's like a little sister. I mean, it's just like two against one all the time. I just feel like I'm just still holding a grudge against that.

[Ronnie Karam]

So that's like, oh, my God, guys, I'm really into this, but the chain of my purse is stuck in this goddamn picnic table. I can't get it out of the. Oh, God. It's Aaron's mother under the picnic table holding something under the chair. Like, go on my first. You'll beg. You already got my house. All right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Denise has a knife, and she's just shoving in there, trying to get this purse free from just like, okay, what? Listen, you're dumb. You're dumb. You're both dumb. You're two young twits. Now stop fighting because I got a purse stuck in the slats.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they're like, we're just one big happy family. All right, you guys, just keep talking. All right, you guys. All you. All we need to do is you keep talking. Jesus Christ. Christ. God, do I worry that my parenting is up. My kids? Of course I do. You know, but you and your sister are gonna get through it. I'm saying. No, we're not, mother. No, we're not. It's like, all right, can we just say it and move on?

[Ben Mandelker]

God, let's just, like, move past the question. Okay, Well, I think I just made it worse. Ha ha ha. And scene. Commercials. Here comes one right now. At 24, I lost my narrative, or rather, it was stolen from me. And the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes, and politics. I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks both recognizable and unrecognizable names about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaiming and feel like.

[Ronnie Karam]

They filled their tank up, they connected.

[Ben Mandelker]

With the people that I'm talking to, and leave with maybe some nuggets that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Episode two, Spelling it all out.

[Ben Mandelker]

Get it? Because Tori's spelling is on the episode. Executive producer Lisa Vanderpump Magic.

[Ronnie Karam]

We open with Lola and Denise being interviewed. Lola, have you seen any of your mom's past work? Well, I mean, I saw one movie. It was called Drop Dead Corey. Wait, that's the only movie you've seen of mine? I mean, come on. Yeah, really? But you never watch. Let me watch any of them, Mom.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but you're older now. She's like, well, until I got older, but now I just. I don't want to watch it. But you. So you don't want to watch. It's like. It's, like, weird. I like watching the stuff you do, but it's like, you know, I was a bond girl. That's like the most exciting thing that ever happened to me. Yeah, but I don't even know what that means. Is that, like, gold?

[Ronnie Karam]

Bond?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, what does Bond mean? I don't know what this.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is. I'm really into Jesus now. I'm not watching your movies. And God damn it. So now we go to the studio, and she's like, oh, balls, guys. Working out feels good, though. We're. They're doing that thing where they're like, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, but they're working out, guys. Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

I fall for it every time. I always think they're having sex.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, I remember Erica Jane, she touched your lats when we were at a premiere. Do you remember that? And she was like, aaron, you got really good lats. That was before she accused you of being abusive or whatever. You remember that, honey? He's like, I don't remember. I cut those people out. Chopped them in half. Those people.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I would remember if it were me. I mean, I was actually impressed you pointed out your lats. I mean, I'm just trying to get mad at Erica a little bit here. You want to join in a little bit? Do I have good lats? All right, we'll talk about your lats instead. Yeah, You've got amazing lats. Thanks.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, well, would you. Would you notice when we started dating, she's like, you're a dick. Your big dick. You got a huge dick. I saw it through your pants.

[Ben Mandelker]

The first thing I saw. The first thing I was like, wait, that bothers you, Aaron, are you really upset that you got a huge hedgehog down there? He's like, no, no, it's just. It doesn't bother me. It's just like. Well, would you rather me say, you know what? The thing that I didn't notice was a small ass. Penis. Come on. Okay. Beggars can't be choosers. Be happy.

[Ronnie Karam]

God, now you got me thinking about your penis. Great. I forgot what I was even talking about. Gee. Oh. So she's like, you know, basically, they just work out. So then we are. What are you laughing at?

[Ben Mandelker]

The noise he made went.

[Ronnie Karam]

Voice is so funny to me. So now they're still talking about the. The daughters fighting. And she's like, I think I made it worse. Like, what do I do now? He's like, what about AI? Oh, sorry. What about Al? Actually, AI was probably be better. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we see a flashback to the picnic and. Oh, we already saw that. And so Denise is like, well, my fu. Al, he's kind of like a big brother to the girls. He lived with me on and off a few years ago. You know, I think he'd be great because Al, you know, he's been through a lot of shit, you know. You know, he's struggled with drug addiction on and off for quite a few years, so he fits right in. And this is the longest stretch I have seen him really clean and healthy. It's. You know, I'm proud of him. I'm looking forward to him getting another hello Kitty tattoo on his cheek.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, I really love Al. One time he stole a bunch of my handbags and he was dumb enough to post it on Instagram and to say, I'm the new Louis Vuitton rep. I mean, what a fucking idiot. God, I love that kid.

[Ben Mandelker]

God, I was so mad. I was so mad at him. I actually. I actually went and drove down to all these different pawn shops and found my handbags. But, you know, at the end of the day, it's just stuff. It's just friends, you know, and that's, you know. But at the same time, though, when you. When you find your bag in a pawn shop, you spend all that effort and then it gets only for it to get stuck into a slat and a Picnic table. You're gonna get out a knife and fix that thing. That's why you have to bring plastic. Because guess what? A sugar cane knife is not going to free your handbag from a slat family's family.

[Ronnie Karam]

And they start laughing. So he's like, is it hot in here? Because I'm sweating my balls off. She goes, babe, it's. Can. Can I see you sweating your balls off? And now we see Tori Spelling at lunch with Denise.

[Ben Mandelker]

Tori Spelling, so excited to be back on tv. You know she is, cuz she comes bounding into this restaurant. She's like, I'm here, I'm here. Put me on tv. I'm ready. She's like, oh, hey, what's going on? You look good. Really? I'm trying on a dorit face. Oh, yeah, no, I really like the way it looks on you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I hope you don't mind, but I have to make this kind of quick. I'm double parked in the van that me and the kids are living in outside. So let's just get some appetizers. Also, can we get some chips to go real quickly?

[Ben Mandelker]

This is. There are no flat tops here because, you know, I'm a little traumatized from Benihana now. Don't worry. And if you there were one, we make sure to put a seatbelt on you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Thank God Torah. Tori Spelling. I think of that. That headline, Tori Spelling falling into the grill at Benihana. Every time I see Tory, every time I.

[Ben Mandelker]

That must have been awful. Truly awful. But it is also hilarious in, you know, from a macro point of view. So the first time I met Tori was on Beverly Hills 912. And then Tori and I would just see each other at different events or shoots that we had. We. We actually got to know each other, I would say, in the last 15 years, just so you know, there's about probably six more episodes of the series. Gum. And every day, every episode, I'm gonna introduce someone with the exact same. Same backstory. Yeah, well, you know, I met them about 20 years ago and we just see each other around now we're friends. Two for two so far.

[Ronnie Karam]

So the waiter's like, okay, so what can I get you? And she goes, do you have bread? To her. Spelling's like, do you have bread? Because. Would you like garlic bread on it? She goes, no, because I might see a boy in the next year. Just bring bread. Do you have loaves of bread? Put that in there. Also, you see that double parked van out there? Just kind of slip it through the cracked Window.

[Ben Mandelker]

It just slice it real thin. Also, you're single now. You have a date. She's like, no. Oh, well, I think your divorce came at a great time. Yeah, it was the right time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Denise is like, yeah, Aaron's the only person I've ever been with. They can screw a light bulb in. God damn. You know, so they're laughing, and Tori's like, yeah, I can't imagine Charlie trying to put in a light bulb. Like, how many hookers does it take to get a light bulb in, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

It actually takes three. We know the answer to that, unfortunately, by the way. I think it was a little bit more. I. I think I was a little bit more handy than Charlie was. I mean, he's a. He's the one who wants those sugar cane knives, you know, I grew up with my father who could build houses, you know. By the way, how is your dad? He's good. He's good. I'm going to tell him you said hi, you know. You know that a hairdresser a long time ago, wanted to set my dad up with your mom? Mom. Can you imagine Candy and Daddy together? Oh, God.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sec. I know she heard that. So he's still banned pretty much from the town. So I hope you get to see your dad again soon. Saying, yeah, he's still. He's still on a no fly list. But, you know, he was too intimidated to ask around. She's like, oh, my God, that's how I feel. And I'm like, asking for help with rent. It's. I get it. She's a terrifying one.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, it'd be fun. Is if your dad marries my mom, then you would probably get my inheritance instead. That's fun. That's fun.

[Ronnie Karam]

Probably Candy would be like, oh, my God. Welcome to the family, darling. Here's all of Tori's money.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, dad, please. I mean, how great would that be? We could be stepsisters, you and me. She's like, oh, my God, that's a show. We could be stepsisters. And they do like, a little graphic jokey thing. And Tori's like, no, no, no. I want this to be a show. Can we make this happen? This could be my way back. Back.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I'm back, girls. I'm back. So it's like, here's your new single life, all right? Meeting someone with a big penis you can have fun with. Oh, and anal sex, too. I listen to your podcast. You talked about anal sex.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, my God. I didn't even mean to start it on the podcast, you know, I was talking about anal sex with William Shatner, as one does. And I mean, his voice was just saying something like, oh, and you touch the clitoris. And I was like, whoa, this is mindboggling. But I am so here for it. So now anyt might get anal sex. I only think of William Shatner. It's so hot.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then you look at the comments. She goes, oh, God, don't look at the comments. You should know better than that. She's. I can't help it. You know, they're like, your daughters are gonna read this. Ah, come on. Yeah, it's a good thing. That's why I didn't teach my kids to read. You know.

[Ben Mandelker]

That'S the thing. You just have kids that are wildly illiterate. You don't have to worry about this. You know when we were on the tabloids, you know, back. You know, back in the. Back. Back in the 15 and 20 years ago days when we were on that, we were on the tablets. The girls were too young to even read them. And I just wanted our home to be a sanctuary, which is why I installed three sex swings in every single room. But, you know, now that they're older, you know when they'll look back and be like, wow, mom, she was her true authentic self, and I really applaud her for that. And I'm sure that my two daughters, as we've seen, who are very introspective, are definitely going to say that about me someday.

[Ronnie Karam]

And, you know, they're getting older and they're like, mom, why don't you tell me this? And I said, well, what am I gonna say? You girls are young, you know, what am I supposed to tell you? The truth. Come on.

[Ben Mandelker]

By the way, I'm excited for your new show. I was kind of like, hey, how come she hasn't asked me to be on there? Does she even want me to be in there? Oh, my God. Will you come on my podcast? Yeah, of course I will. Thanks for asking me. I just had to twist your arm. Stupid friend.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's like, I'm jealous of you. And it's true, because I was on and off with Pat Muldoon. You know, actually, I calm. And at the same time, she goes, sweet babe. And she goes, ye. Him Face. You call him Face Guy? I call him sweet babe. That's hilarious. Let's call him. Let's call him.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know what America? You know what America calls him? Who? This little joke. I have my daughters, Patrick Mulhoon. Get it?

[Ronnie Karam]

So he was so hot. Oh, my God. Patrick Muldoon was the hottest guy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Patrick Muldoon is like. You know how sometimes you hear people talk about hot people in the 70s? Like, they'll be like, oh, this person. Like Leif Garrett or whatever. And you're like, I've heard about this person, but I don't really understand their cultural impact. Patrick Muldoon is like that, where he didn't really have his. You really only know about him if you were around in the 90s, right? And, like, if you were post 90s, you have no idea who Patrick Muldoon is. But if you were around in the 90s, Patrick Muldoon was so fine.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, he was so cute. I knew him because I would skip school and go watch Days of Our Lives at my city's house, my grandmother's house. And they would always be watching the NBC soaps, which were Days of Our Lives and Another World, and then sometimes Sunset beach, you know, when those other ones came on, or Passions. But those were my main ones, Days of Our Lives in Another World. And Lisa Rinna was on there. She came on playing Billy, the role of Billy, and Patrick Muldoon was her brother. And, oh, my God, he was so fucking hot. They never found another guy as hot as him to play that.

[Ben Mandelker]

There was this whole world of these hot actors who were on, like, soaps and Baywatch and things like that, or like, they were on syndicated shows on, like, you know, that beyond at like 11:30 at night or something. And it was like, Patrick Muldoon, it was David Chokachi. It was the other David from Baywatch, Chever, or something like that. There were just all. And then there are all those guys that were on Passions. The guys on Passions. And there were some Days of Our Lives guys. Oh, they were just. And they're all these just like this tier of soap soap stars or, like, bit players on 90s, like on, like, Melrose Place or 9210 that just kind of stayed in that realm. And then the 2000s came, and I don't know what happened to them. Maybe they all do Hallmark movies now, but to know them is to love them.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, hotness. So they call Patrick and she's like, sweet babe, I'm here with Tori. And Tori's like, oh, she doesn't believe the name we call each other. Can you tell.

[Ben Mandelker]

Tell her.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, face. Yeah, I told her I was so jealous because you and I were hooking up and whatever the. And, you know, you told me at one point, you Couldn't do it anymore because you were dating Tori. I mean, what the. Right?

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, you know, T, I don't really remember the 90s, but I remember both of you. But outside of that, I don't remember Watch. Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, we love it.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like the only time you're. You're remembered.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's when you need to pay attention. Attention. His story's like, I feel validated that you said that we dated. We did, on my part, but I don't think that. I didn't think that you felt that way about me. He's like, yeah, I love you. I don't know who. Who's calling, by the way. All right, bye, bye, bye, bye, sweet face or whatever your name is.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Tori's like, that was life changing. Like a man stopped dating Denise Richards for me. Oh, my God, you were really rich. And Tori. Daddy. Pre Daddy. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Story is like, I always wanted to star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame, but I'm fine with this. But also, this was my way, now that I'm on this platform for a few seconds to say, could I please have a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame?

[Ronnie Karam]

Please?

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you so much.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Oh, hey, that bus has left the station. God, Denise. No, there's a bus sitting over there. That's my car. My kids are in there. Oh, let's go get it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I did hear there was some talk about adding a Walk of Fame to the bus station, though. And I will accept a star there as well. Port Authority, call me.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now we get an intercut scene of the kids, what the kids are doing. So over at Sammy's apartment, Sammy's like, loose living friend Leah comes and she's in, like, a glitter bikini, and she's like, oh, my God. I feel like we're always late for raves, me and you. She's like, yeah, we could, like, we'd, like, only have, like, 20 minutes to get ready. I mean, how long does it take to put on a fight? Clutter bikini. Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

And you know what they say about raves. You always have to be on time for a rave. I mean, talk. I mean, that is one place where tardiness is not allowed a rave.

[Ronnie Karam]

They're like, sorry, we can't let you in.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

You're too late. We demand responsibility.

[Ben Mandelker]

Follow all the rules at a rave.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then Lola's house, she's got her friends Riley and Nick coming over, and everybody's very Christian, and I think very new Christian because they all look like they've just been drunk, drugged. They're like, yeah, it's, like, so wonderful to see you, man. You're like, there's, like an aura of the Lord shining around you right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

And we don't really even know that they're super Christian at this point. They just seem like gentle folk. And so Sammy's like, oh, my God. We're putting on black lipstick because we don't want to be late for the rave. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Colors. Alerts.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, what are the alerts? It's like, okay, code. Code green if someone's yakking. Yeah. No concrete is weed. Oh, okay. What's coat? What's yak in color? Color Code ochre. Okay. Code ochre. And code green is if it's a weed smell. Oh, my God. No. Code res. Vomit. Ew. Vomit.

[Ronnie Karam]

Ew.

[Ben Mandelker]

Gross. Hey, do you guys want some water? Yeah. Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't need no water. Thank you. Back to Sammy. Oh, we should have brought Narcan, the man. And Sammy's like, don't worry, They've got Narcan there.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we go back to the Lola. She goes, so I had a talk with Sammy, and she's, like, not going to see me the way I see her without the Lord and, like, working on her heart. I was like, oh, okay. She's a. She's a teenage born again in Hollywood. God is.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I'm right.

[Ben Mandelker]

But she's not only like a born again. She's all. She's like a born again, born again born again. Like, there's been, like, births within births within births of born again. Because she is talking about. She starts from this point on, she's talking about nothing but the Lord.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And she's like, super la born again, too. Because I saw a clip or a news thing the other day when I was looking for crappy hour stories, and it was like, lola, Denise's daughter, has been baptized in a private ceremony. I was like, oh, really? If there's a. If it's a private ceremony, why do you got guys have pri. Like, professional pictures from 10 different angles, and it's like this big, clear vat of water. It's like. It's very Hollywood, the whole thing. I was cracking up. I was like, they didn't have to do it how we did it, or I did it. They just take you out to the Rio Grande, hold you by the ankles and shove you under.

[Ben Mandelker]

Grand.

[Ronnie Karam]

They don't really. I think I was down in a fountain, like a. They had, like, a Little bowl of church.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Lola is like, you know, a lot of people say it's surprising that I'm a woman of God, but I actually saw an article that said, Lola, an apple that felt. An apple that fell far from the tree or something. But it's like, sometimes I get, like, super amped up when I'm talking to my mom and Sammy. So I called my dad for a while, and he, like, really helped me. He's, like, so good at, like, helping my brain because, like, I don't know, he's so logical. Logical. Famously Charlie Sheen logical.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, my dad, like, he would help me a lot with Christianity. You know, Jesus had hookers for friends, too.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cut back to the girls. Like, is this lips? Is this supposed to. Is this supposed to burn? Is this lipstain supposed to burn? Because my lips are burning up so badly right now. God. This back to her.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, we're just like, so different from each other. I mean, like, how cool. How cool is this trainer, you guys?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, I have a trainer that was my favorite cutaway. Because when Sammy's like, okay, are you ready to go to the rave, guys? How cool is this trainer? Because I know I would be that person saying, guys, check out this trainer. Because I still do that.

[Ronnie Karam]

And they're both saying, all we have in common is our parents. It's like, so next. Like, so what'd you do today, Lola? Well, I woke up. Okay, that's a good start. And then I talked to the Lord, and all day I woke up and I'm like, I'm gonna go to the beach. But it was so gloomy. But I was so upset because I swear God told me to go. So I did. And then I saw this couple, and they were having the prettiest light up picnic. So I think God was telling me, I'm gonna have that someday. That was my sign that I got from Jesus today.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know what? You also learned a valuable lesson, which is that just because God tells you go to the beach doesn't mean that he's guaranteeing the weather. Okay. Yeah, there'll be clouds. Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

You should appreciate relationships, too.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. By the way, appreciate the beach whether it's sunny or not. Okay? It's the beach. I love that. She's like, I could have sworn God told me to come here. She's literally acting like she made plans with her friend to have coff coffee and it was like a Tuesday and not a Thursday. I could have sworn today was the day we're gonna meet.

[Ronnie Karam]

I also love her version of God. She's like, God, what do you want for me? He's like, go to the beach. You know what? Let me tell you what the world is doing right now. Taking care of itself. Not a problem in the world. Just go chill at the beach. You're too gorgeous. Don't do anything for poor people. Go to the beach. Get a strainer. Get a new strainer. Okay, you're drinking too much pulp.

[Ben Mandelker]

She is gonna be. She is gonna be the person that's says, oh, sorry, I'm late for my.

[Ronnie Karam]

Shift at the restaurant.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just God told me that I should probably sleep in an extra half an hour.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Denise is like, oh, Jesus, I was the one who raised you Catholic. Why are you acting like you just found God? I mean, geez, your sister went one way and you went this way, but I took you to the spot, okay? I took you to the spot. Godamn.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Leah and Sammy, now they like, do like a photo shoot outside. Because it's like a pre re photo shoot. And Sammy, he's like. I would say in the past year, religion has been like, very, very important to Lola. Let me just also add. So Lola's like, yeah, God understands me. And that's like, all that matters, really. Except that, like, it would be cool.

[Ronnie Karam]

If he told me what the weather.

[Ben Mandelker]

Was before I went all the way out to the beach. But, like, it's okay. It's cool.

[Ronnie Karam]

And her friends are like, yeah, man, that's so great. Yeah. And he has my back. He's like, my armor.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ow.

[Ronnie Karam]

I just got stung by a mosquito. But I'm not gonna be a doubter about. About it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I'm just like a woman of God. So then Sammy's like, people who haven't been to a rave don't realize that, like, what I'm wearing right now, there's like, actually, like, too much clothes. And Leah's like, yeah, it's modest. Yeah, Leah, don't talk. It's my show. Okay? We've seen a butthole. Out, nips out. I feel like this is like, conservative.

[Ronnie Karam]

Thank you much, Jesus, for my beautiful friends for being able to come over here and eat tacos on Taco Tuesday. And then they just stand there over the counter, awkwardly eating these tacos. Like, ask God for a table. Go sit down.

[Ben Mandelker]

Dear God, thanks for naming tacos tacos that way when you have. When you eat them on Tuesday, it's like a fun thing to say. Taco Tuesday. Thanks, God.

[Ronnie Karam]

Thank you for giving us a day of the week with a hard Tea.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you for giving us a day of the week where it's more fun to eat tacos. Cuz, like, on Thursday day. Technically, they're both Te's, but it, like, doesn't hit the same, cuz, like, it's not a hard tea. Thanks so much.

[Ronnie Karam]

God, I am dead. And then cut back to the other girls taking, like, pictures in their bikinis on the balcony. They're like, yes, yes. Amen. So then we see Sammy going to meet up with Al. Oh, no. She's just driving. And Al calls her. He's like, what's up, beautiful? That's also very la. Everybody that you talk to is like, hey, beautiful. Hey, beautiful. Beautiful. Hey, beautiful. Hey, beautiful. That's all Al says before he steals your entire closet.

[Ben Mandelker]

So he's calling them both. And Al's like, so I just talked to your mom. It's kind of why I'm calling. Do you guys happen to have that handbag I sold you when I was a quote unquote Louis Vuitton rap? Yeah. Your mom's still pretty mad at me about that anyway. But I also heard, like, what's going on with you guys together? And, like, I don't know. I want to get you guys back together. You open to that. That. And Sammy's like, I mean, I'm just warning you, like, it might turn into a huge fight. So I don't know.

[Ronnie Karam]

So the girls agree to go. And meanwhile, Denise does a podcast sesh with Tori Spelling, who's doing her podcast from a bed, which is very popular now. A lot of people are doing that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bed podcasts. Well, you know who really. You know who really was a pioneer in terms of bed content? 10.

[Ronnie Karam]

No.

[Ben Mandelker]

Padman Lakshmi. What?

[Ronnie Karam]

No. You know who is a pioneer of the bed podcast? Ronnie Caram. Do you remember when I bought that hospital bed that got. Well, they're called adjustable beds, but at the time I called it a hospital bed, and it went up and down. And I bought a mic stand to come over the bed, and it would come into my face in the bed, and then I had, like, a whole iPad on a hospital table that I could swivel to. And from me, I did watch what happens from bed for, like, a long time. Don't you remember?

[Ben Mandelker]

That was great work. I was going. I was personally gonna do a callback to when Padma and Nigella Lawson got into a bed and had chefs serve them in Vegas. Like, please bring us breakfast. This is stupid. And she throws the omelette at the wall.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, they wish they attached. They even Attempted my glamour in my bed. This is a pretty glamorous time for Watch it crap in the guys. So now Denise is gonna do this podcast, and they're hugging and stuff, and Tori's like, yeah, it's in bed. Because, like, my first episode, I was announcing my divorce, and I was just, like, so nervous, and I sat on the bed and I was like, let's just do it here. Also, there weren't really any other rooms or chairs because.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, we don't do any intros for the show. We'll just start talking because my kids are out in that van. So anything that we don't have to include, we'll just. We just need to, like, get back to that van. So she's like, how you doing? Can we talk about Only Fans? Yeah. Okay. Well, I thought you were going to join it, by the way. Why didn't you join Only Fans? I mean, like, what the are you waiting for Tori?

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, well, they have a moratorium on people who have fallen into Hibachi Grills. I don't know. It's unfair, but it's just something you deal with in the industry. It's a. It's a Hibachi person. You deal with it. You know, you get used.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah, I'm working out a. A deal with Only Grills. This is sort of a spin off thing.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't give a. I'm gonna do Only fans. You know why you want to see my tits? They're already out there. Google them. You know what I mean? You're gonna pay me money. I mean, I've done Playboy, all right? So my tits are there. Your tits are out there, right? 20 Tori. She's like, no, they're not. Ah, a poor thing. Well, you know, someone will ask one day. Don't worry. Hugh Hefner is still with us. Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, he's dead.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God. You.

[Ben Mandelker]

You so. Have you had sex and steam, by the way? She's like, you don't have to answer that. Well, I mean, you can answer. You cut it out afterwards if you don't want it out there. Am I right? Hey, let's call a face again. That's what you call him, right? Call them smooth dunes.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Tori's like, I did. And Denise goes, I love that she's open and honest. I was like, oh, yeah, big, big A, Kyle. And no matter what the circumstances are, you know, it's not easy going through a divorce. All right? Aaron and I went to dinner with you guys, and that wasn't long after she goes. That was our last date, was with you and Aaron. You know, Aaron told Dean about the whole 5G conspiracy. I refuse to get rid of my Verizon plan. And Dean left. Left. So, yeah, thanks.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was tough. Thanks for that. And you still didn't put your tits out there. Geez. Well, it's hard enough going through divorce, no matter who you are, but Charlie and I went, notoriously, went through one of the most public Hollywood divorces, which is my way of saying, tori, you better buck up, because you didn't go through the rodeo that I did. Okay? I was on the COVID of a tabloid for two years straight every single month. Tori's like, my dream. Dream? Well, yeah. Well, I don't. I know there are not a lot of tabloids now, but back then, they were alive. But it was. It was not easy. Tori, why are you crying right now? Why are you crying?

[Ronnie Karam]

Tori's like, okay, before you leave, we're gonna play a game where we all leave the host $20.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, now we go to Neptune's Net, which is home of where Jax proposed to Brittany, Also a Crappin's List listener. I believe one of the people who works there is a Krappens listener. And so we have Al, who's there, and he's like, you know, Lena, my wife. I'm not worried about talking to them. They're sisters. They're gonna figure it out. But if we can lead a horse to water, I'm pretty sure the horse can also lead us to some handbags. So keep an eye on that horse.

[Ronnie Karam]

Listen, if all goes to shit, we know at least one of these girls is gonna have the code to Denise's house.

[Ben Mandelker]

House.

[Ronnie Karam]

We need to keep on the good sides. All right? Let's make them talk. So the girls come and they make small talk. And Al's like, all right, let me just break this off, you guys, you know, Love you guys. You're both beautiful. You know, I did say hi, beautiful to you both. I meant it. It's great to have you together. Who wants fried shrimp? And Lena's like, yeah, like, finding a resolution right now. It's like, you know what? We just want to, like, find where you're comfortable, and that's where it's at. That. Guys. That's, like, where it's at.

[Ben Mandelker]

So he's like, okay, do you not. Lola, do you not agree that you love your sister and you just want her to treat you in a different way? Yeah, and I've told her that I love her a Lot. Like, I wish she would just, like, talk to me. She's like. Sammy's like, okay. Like, why are you saying that to Al? I'm like, you're right here.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And so they start doing their, like, girl fighting. They're like, oh, my God. Why are you so mean to me? Why are you mean to me? Me? Why do you mean to me? Why are you mean to me? But why? And so they start fighting about the guy. And she's like, well, look, you came to my friend group and you took my friend and dated him for a year, and I wasn't allowed to talk to him. And that affected our relationship because, like, you got jealous all the time when he would talk to me. And that was my friendship before you even dated. She's like, well, I wasn't comfortable with you being touchy with him. She's like, but you guys were flirting. There's a line. It's like, I. I would never be touchy with anybody. That's just not who I am.

[Ben Mandelker]

Unless the Lord told me to. Like, maybe he told me to go to the beach, and then, like, I can touch someone. I don't know. Seems like. Are you going to, like, hang out with him, though? She's like, well, when all my friends are hanging out with him, like, what do you want me to do? Like, right away when he's like, there? Yeah, I literally want you to run away. She's like, I asked her if she could stop hanging out with my ex because I thought that was really weird. And then she chose him over me and still does.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I would, too. She's. Yeah. Already on record, but I think she's full of on this one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I agree.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Al's like, okay, pause. And Luna's like, in the spirit of, like, getting past all of this, like, right. I know you guys are both hurt, but we need to come to some sort of, like, conclusion. Okay. Okay, guys, let's do that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I'm just gonna say this. I didn't intentionally mean to actually hurt you because, like, I really do love you. And I know that, like, right now you don't feel that way because you're hurt by me. And I'm genuinely sorry. But I don't want to make you feel like you're unworthy, because that's not. That's how I am. That's not how I am. That's not how God would want me to make someone feel. So I'm sorry.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, God. And she's like, okay, well, I appreciate you apologizing and, like, I'm sorry for saying things that have hurt your feelings. And have you seen my normal mark on. Because I knew that, like, I need that. It was in my lipstick. Have you seen it?

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, well, we'll keep. She's like, we'll keep it civil. And, you know, it'll just take me a very, very, very, very, very long time to actually be able to, like, truly want to be best friends again. She's like, me, too. So they shake hands, and I was like, well, at least you guys are working on it. And like, I love you.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love you. Well, and Lola's like, well, I still hope that we can work it out, because she said, I love have you. And I don't think she's ever said that before. Like, oh, my God, this poor kid has probably been in this completely nuts family and always had to be the one to apologize. And she's probably never done anything wrong. She's like, the good kid, and they're just like, treat her like a little punching bag. Team Team Lola. As odd as she is, Team Lola.

[Ben Mandelker]

Unless we find out that that boyfriend was really actually very, very horrific. And Lola should be standing up for her sister. But for right now, Team Lo. Lola. I'm. My instinct says Lola.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, me too. All right, everybody. Well, thanks so much for being with us today. I don't know if we're going to recover, if we're going to cover this on the. On the full or not. Tell us. If you want to tell us what you think, give us your opinion.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was pleasant enough doing it, but I wouldn't say it is the most compelling TV for me. But, you know, if you guys like it, we'll do it.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't know if we'll keep covering it, but we will definitely keep watching. I will definitely keep watching it because, you know, I like. I like the people on it. And it is Bravo, which is what.

[Ben Mandelker]

By the way, I want to say something that I saw that was so random during Beverly Hills. I think it was Beverly Hills or actually maybe was during this show. I don't remember which show I was watching. I think it was Beverly Hills. There was a commercial where Dorit and Jen yo from Sold on slc. Yeah, we're driving. I haven't seen this commercial yet, and I just thought it was so funny because, like, how did Jen yo get a commercial with one of Bravo's big stars? Stars? I mean, Jen yo is on a show that no one talks about. We love it. But, like, was. Was Bravo kind of like, yeah, this show's gonna be huge. We're telling you right now, Booker, for your commercial. And then it just didn't work out.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it was during that. When that commercial came out, it was during sold on slc. So it made a little more sense because it was a commercial during slc.

[Ben Mandelker]

I didn't. I never saw it. So seeing it now, I was like, it's just kind of funny. They're like, oh, my God, it's Jen. Yo. And, you know, the oddest is like, who?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And dorit's like, look at me. Looking for a house in salt lake city. You know, I mean, PK is constantly licking the salt out of everything, so hopefully we can find a house here to live. But I want your car instead.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, everyone, thanks for listening, and we will catch you on the next episode of watch what crap ins. Bye, everyone. Watch what crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like alison king our.

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