#2783 RHOA S16E04 Part Two: Bank of Trymerica

Summary

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Episode Title: #2783 RHOA S16E04 Part Two: Bank of Trymerica
Release Date: April 1, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Podcast: Wondery - Watch What Crappens

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Introduction

In Episode #2783 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve deep into "The Real Housewives of Atlanta" Season 16, Episode 4, titled "Bank of Trymerica." This episode, aptly released on April Fool's Day, promises a mix of drama, humor, and sharp commentary as Ben and Ronnie dissect the latest developments in the lives of Atlanta's fiercest housewives.

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Main Conflicts and Character Dynamics

Brit Avery vs. Cherlynn Thompson

One of the central discussions revolves around the strained relationship between Brit Avery and her sister, Cherlynn Thompson. Ben highlights Cherlynn's emotional struggles, stating, “[05:05] Cherlynn: That's my husband. He has to be there.”

• Cherlynn’s Struggles: Cherlynn grapples with severe depression, feeling abandoned by Brit after Brit found a new romantic partner. This dynamic mirrors common real-life sibling rivalries, amplified under the scrutiny of reality TV cameras.

• Brit’s Position: Brit is portrayed as the seemingly adored sister, with Ben sarcastically noting, “[06:14] Ben: Like, just everybody's jealous of her. She's just, like, so hot, man.”

Dennis and the Hot Dog King Subplot

A humorous subplot involves Dennis and the "Hot Dog King," where Dennis attempts to launch a hot dog-themed music album. The hosts poke fun at the absurdity of the project:

• Album Antics: “[08:05] Ben: Taylor slow.” This line mocks the attempt to parody mainstream music themes with a quirky hot dog twist.

• Heimlich Song: The duo laughs over the song’s repetitive and nonsensical lyrics, “[09:00] Ben: I'm going to become a pop master.”

Dinner Drama at Bank of Trymerica

The episode's climax unfolds during a high-stakes dinner party held at a bank vault, where tensions flare among the housewives:

• Portia’s Control: Portia is depicted as the puppet master, meticulously controlling what airs on camera. Ben criticizes her manipulation tactics: “[27:07] Ben: And I think it's also just that Brit wants to fight so bad, and Kenya's just not giving it to her.”

• Kenya’s Role: Kenya attempts to defuse the escalating tension, leading to Brit feeling alienated and defensive. “[34:10] Cherlynn: Brit, can you speak to Brit kindly and not with an attitude.”

• Shamia’s Intervention: Shamia tries to mediate, presenting olive oil as a peace offering, only to have the situation spiral further. “[36:59] Ben: Come at me and what are you?"

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Notable Quotes and Commentary

• Ben on Cherlynn: “[05:19] Lisa: Yeah. And... she's so nice. You're so nice. The server. When the server came by, she's like, thanks, babe.”

• Ronnie on Portia’s Filmmaking: “[30:44] Ben: It was so good. What a mess that show was.”

• Humorous Take on Dennis’s Music: “[10:45] Lisa: So I was really hoping we could find a producer named Nathan just to really just see it all the way through.”

• Kenya’s Disdain for Drama: “[36:17] Lisa: Kenya's like, please, please let her do something to me so she can go.”

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Insights and Analysis

Ben and Ronnie offer sharp critiques of the Housewives' behaviors, focusing on themes of jealousy, manipulation, and the quest for personal spotlight. They emphasize Portia's controlling nature and how it affects group dynamics, suggesting that her need to curate every moment leads to unnecessary conflicts.

• Portia as the Antagonist: “[30:35] Ben: Yeah, exactly. And she's gonna make her pay for it.”

• Cherlynn's Authenticity vs. Brit’s Performance: The hosts appreciate Cherlynn’s genuine emotional display compared to Brit's seemingly forced confrontations. “[07:14] Lisa: Her name isn't Chaz. It's Cher, okay? She was meant to be a star.”

• Dennis's Comic Relief: The subplot involving Dennis adds a layer of humor, balancing the intense drama with lighthearted mockery.

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Conclusions and Final Thoughts

By the episode's end, Ben and Ronnie firmly establish their critical stance on certain cast members, particularly critiquing Brit's lack of authenticity and Portia's manipulative tactics. They express hope for more genuine moments and less forced drama in future episodes.

• Final Verdict on Brit: “[42:28] Ben: I don’t need any... she really does suck.”

• Portia’s Upcoming Challenges: “[30:35] Ben: And she's gonna make her pay for it.”

Ben and Ronnie conclude with a mix of humor and frustration, highlighting their passion for dissecting Bravo’s reality TV spectacles.

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Transcript

[Ben]

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[Lisa]

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[Ben]

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[Lisa]

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[Lisa]

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[Ben]

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[Lisa]

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[Ben]

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[Lisa]

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[Ben]

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[Lisa]

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[Ben]

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[Lisa]

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[Lisa]

Watch what crap. Who cares what happens when there's so much crapping? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode.

[Ben]

So then we go to Brit with her sister Cher, who we're gonna see this relationship and how Britt's a total victim of all of this. So Cher is late, I guess, and.

[Cher]

Britt's like, wow, look who decided to join us for lunch on dinner now.

[Lisa]

So she was like, okay, hi. Okay, well, hi. So there's. They're saying hi, and Brit's like, oh, my God, like, like how. She's like, how are the kids? And Cher's like, well, you know, like one of them's like 6, 3 at this point.

[Cher]

She's like, no, no, no, no. I don't go that long without saying it's probably been like a month since I've seen them. And that's like, now you haven't seen.

[Lisa]

Them in like a year. Let's get. Let's be honest. That's. So you're trying to cover on camera.

[Ben]

So she's like, you know, my sister always took care of me. She always fought for me when the girls were bullying me for being a hot future real estate agent in a denim top. And, you know, I just can't believe we can't be friends. And then they talk about their mom, and she's mad at the mom, and she's probably got her blocked because she's. Cher's always fighting with everybody. But then we find out Cher has, like, severe depression issues and that she used to be best friends with Britt, but then Britt found a man and ditched her, Which I think we've all experienced that. And she's like, but that's my husband. She goes, yeah, but then, you know, when I want to have a private conversation with you and talk about my depression or how I'm feeling, like, she starts crying. And she goes, well, I Don't care.

[Cher]

That's my husband. He has to be there.

[Ben]

I'm like, okay, so you're a bad sister, too, because really, your. Your. Your husband even has to be there. Like, at her darkest times, she can't ever have a moment alone with you because you're married. Give me a fucking break. This girl sucks. Team.

[Lisa]

Yeah. And. Yeah, and she's so nice. You're so nice. The server. When the server came by, she's like, thanks, babe. And, you know, she was like, look, I get it. It's your man. I'm not hating. I love him, you know, but, like, I need, like, one on one time. And, you know, And Brit's like, you know what?

[Cher]

Sharon loves mine. And Mike has been like a big brother to her, but I think she takes out her issues with me on him.

[Lisa]

Like, no, she probably is just sick of him being there. He probably doesn't want to be there either, by the way. I don't think he is one of the more disinterested house husbands that we've seen in a while.

[Ben]

He's like, that dog. He's like, please, let me just go.

[Cher]

She's like, no, you and Mimosa are going to sit here and judge. Share with me.

[Lisa]

So Brit's basically like, saying, you know, Mike's been great to her. And she goes, you know, I don't.

[Cher]

Have a lot of friends, and it's just always been like, me and family.

[Lisa]

If you don't have a lot of friends, you may want to examine that.

[Ben]

Like, just everybody's jealous of her. She's just, like, so hot, man. Like, it's really hard. Yeah, it's really hard being her. She's just one of those people. It's like, it's so hard. People are so jealous. I was in music videos in high school, okay?

[Lisa]

But they get to a nice place, and they. They do, you know, they reaffirm that they love each other. And, you know, and then. And Brit makes the ultimate sacrifice, which is that her. She gets, like, three text and a phone call, and she's like, now you know it's real.

[Cher]

Because by the way, Mike is trying to text me. I'm not. Not answering his text right now.

[Lisa]

Like, oh, wow, thank you for that major sacrifice that you're making.

[Ben]

Yeah. So then I have to say, on a completely unrelated note, Cher's also very good on camera. Like, Cher came ready. She was, like, a natural. Like, she's been on TV for 15 years. She did a great job. I say, fire Brittany and bring on Cherry I want to hear more about Cher and her issues. Well, see, Cher fighting with their mom, you know what I mean? That's what I want. Get rid of Brit.

[Lisa]

Her name isn't Chaz. It's Cher, okay? She was meant to be a star.

[Ben]

Oh, poor Chaz. It's like, what do I ever do?

[Lisa]

Listen, besides nothing. Scoreboard.

[Ben]

Yeah. So then next we go to Dennis in the studio with the Hot Dog King. So Drew comes in, and she's like, hi, everybody. And he's like, wait a minute. Are you performing? Performing tonight? She's like, I'm always performing in the booth. Don't I always? Oh, God, I'm so excited about this record. 80 songs. God. For the new Taylor Swift, a live boat society, a live hot dog society.

[Lisa]

How about we call. Okay, how about we call our album noons? You know, because, like, Taylor's is, like, midnight, so ours will be noons. See what I'm going for there? It's just gonna be. It's gonna be huge.

[Ben]

Taylor slow.

[Lisa]

Dress ripper slow. Dress ripper slow.

[Ben]

So we hear some lyrics. Ladies. If you sick and tired of it. Okay, so she gets up there to sing. This is where she can't, like, stay with the music or anything. And she's like, ladies, if you. If you. If you sick and tired of it, slide on him.

[Cher]

Glide it.

[Ben]

Slide on him. Ew. I don't want a song produced by a hot dog person with these lyrics. I don't like it. Well, it is on it. Glide on it. Slide on it.

[Lisa]

It is. How. Give me a hot dog in a bun.

[Ben]

No. Give me a dry bun.

[Cher]

Wait a second. I'm not sure if I understand the motivation, ladies. If you. If you're sick and tired of it.

[Lisa]

Add some relish or some onions.

[Cher]

Is that.

[Lisa]

Is that new slang? Sandy's lying.

[Cher]

Dennis.

[Lisa]

He's like, just trust me.

[Ben]

Put some chili on it and. Put some chili on it. Steam it. Relish it. Ketchup.

[Lisa]

Catch up. Do you want your bun toasted? Toasted? So Dennis is like, so. I mean, now that you're single, now you've got to give the gods a little, you know? Huh?

[Ben]

Huh?

[Lisa]

Huh? And she's like, well, I'm not technically single. I haven't signed on the dotted line yet. And she tells us Dennis is an intricate part of the album, which I think she meant to say integral, but she said intricate like, he's a fast. He's a very intricate. He's so intricate on this album. There's actually the. The album artwork is just Dennis's face, but done in a mosaic. It's very intricate.

[Ben]

He's serving as my executive producer. He's placing me with various award winning producers of Hot Dogs. Sure. But they've won things, and that's the point.

[Lisa]

We are so honored that we have a representative from the Heinz Corporation writing some of our lyrics for our ketchup song.

[Ben]

I actually have a tune done by the Coney island producer. Coney island producer.

[Lisa]

So we just have a great partnership and to put out an incredible body of music. And also Hot Dogs, because, you know, what's the. It just works.

[Ben]

It is so awkward that an entire song has to be done in Hebrew. But you know what?

[Lisa]

We're trying to cover all the bases with every brand.

[Ben]

I think he really needs a sexy song kind of referencing penises and hot dogs at the same time. We're gonna change the world together.

[Lisa]

So I was really hoping we could find a producer named Nathan just to really just see it all the way through. But unfortunately, he was booked.

[Ben]

Yeah. So she's like, y'all trying to get me in trouble, huh? And he's like, trouble with who? And she goes, yeah, I've been a lot of trouble these days with, you know. And he's like, oh, with Porsche. He's like, I don't even know what's going on with that. Do not pull me into more Porsche. Even though I'm sitting here right on her show, somehow I managed to be on five seasons of television. God, I hate this.

[Lisa]

He's like, I don't even know what you're talking about. And then it's like, rewind to two weeks ago. Porsche being like, when you show up.

[Cher]

Anywhere on these cameras with anybody else, it's gonna be a problem.

[Lisa]

And he's like, yeah, I don't know. I have no idea. So Ju says, to be honest, there wasn't drama with Dennis and I working together until now. I don't know how genuine it is, because Porsche's going through a lot of things, but this isn't affecting Portia. Well, yet there wasn't drama with you and Dennis working together until now, because there weren't cameras until now. And that is Porsche's big issue. She doesn't want Dennis to be able to have a platform to talk about her.

[Ben]

Yeah. And so she's like, when I go hang out with my girls, you know, it's a little stressful of an environment. Like, okay, Drew, just be quiet.

[Lisa]

It's stressful of an environment. Yeah, it's not a stressful environment, but it's stressful of the environment. Yeah, the environment, yeah.

[Ben]

He's like, I get it.

[Lisa]

It's intricate.

[Ben]

It's intricate. So he's like, you know, she told me it was. She was good with it, but now it's not okay. And he's like, yeah, but when we started this, to be fair, she was in Nigeria, so I didn't have to be like, hey, this is what I'm doing. But now she's not in Nigeria. Now she's here, and she cares, you know?

[Lisa]

And he's. And she's like, well, can you bridge the gap? And let's just, you know, let's just clear the air. He's like, well, you do that. So she says, you know, me and Porsche, at this point, it's like a closed door for me, you know, like much of the music industry. And I've made several attempts to try to talk to her. And you have to just let Portia be Portia, and we'll talk on Portia's time. And if not, it is what it is. She's acting like she's, like, totally unbothered by the fact that Portia isn't calling her back, but, you know, it's killing her on the inside because, like, she's trying to hit your Hitch. Hitch onto that portrait star.

[Ben]

And I like Dennis because he's as unhelpful as he's always been. Like, it doesn't matter. Just change the woman out. And he's still completely unhelpful. She's like, well, you know, this is an issue with you and Portia, so it would really be nice if you spoke with Portia. And he's like, no, good luck.

[Lisa]

No, no. I'm in the middle of writing a really good song about Oscar Myers.

[Ben]

So then the most important part is my mother is loving the storyline.

[Lisa]

He's like, okay, Drew, we wrote a song about someone who choked on a hot dog. So I'm gonna need you to go in there and start seeing the lyrics. So she gets in there, and she's like, I need to breathe. I need to breathe.

[Ben]

And they're like, can you go a.

[Lisa]

Little bit deeper with your voice?

[Ben]

Okay. Just a little bit deeper. Okay, hold the Heimlich out. Like you're going, heimlich, Heimlich. She goes, heimlich. Heimlich. Burned down the studio.

[Lisa]

She's like, okay, well, this song is.

[Ben]

Really kicking my butt in the back of a diner.

[Lisa]

It's just like, that's the choreo.

[Ben]

Put your palms on the little corner.

[Cher]

Of the chest and push Heimlich and put Heimlich.

[Lisa]

For real, though. The lyric is, I need to breathe. And she says it about 50 times. And they're like, can you go a little slower? Can you go a little deeper? And she does the same iteration, and then she goes, wow. I mean, this song is really kicking my butt. You're making Grace Lily sound like Tina Turner right now.

[Ben]

And Dennis is like, it's a hit, though. It's a hit. It's a hit.

[Lisa]

People.

[Ben]

People all over the country are going to be doing the Heimlich. You have saved lives today, ma'am.

[Lisa]

Memo to our editor, Christina. I'm gonna need you to do a remix of the hit song Heimlich.

[Cher]

Heimlich.

[Lisa]

Heimlich. Heimlich. Giving you some visuals. Heimlich.

[Cher]

Heimlich. Heimlich.

[Lisa]

Heimlich. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like. I'm like, hi, Nick.

[Ben]

So now we're getting ready for Angela's dinner, and Shamia facetimes Portia, and she's talking about how she wants to apologize and stuff. And Portia's like, just look good. So then Britt's talking to Kelly on FaceTime, and everyone's like, I don't want to go to the hood. Please don't make us go to the hood. This neighborhood is just hood. Don't make us go there. And she's like, what are you talking about? It's Bankhead.

[Lisa]

No one wants to go to Bankhead. I don't know anything about Bang Head.

[Ben]

Me neither.

[Lisa]

Except Tallulah Bankhead, Right? Isn't that someone. But apparently Bankhead is not the safest place, and they all do not want to go there. So Shamia is asking Portia if she's talked to Drew, and Portia's like, no.

[Cher]

I'm not to happen tonight. Because, like, you know, it just needs to be one on one. And, like, I don't know, like, I kind of heard a demo of her song, and it really sucks.

[Lisa]

I just don't want to be near that mess.

[Cher]

I'm like, hi. I'm like, damn, it's catchy.

[Lisa]

She's basically like, no, I'm not gonna talk to Drew.

[Ben]

I'm so sorry. I'm trying to see if Swinging Richards was located in Bankhead.

[Lisa]

Oh.

[Ben]

Because just like, for bank.

[Lisa]

How did that. Ronnie, how does your fucking Heimlich song get so catchy? It's just two words. It's not even barely song. I'm sitting here going, heimlich I'm gonna.

[Ben]

Become a pop master. So then they're talking about Sumi and Portia are talking about Drew. Did you already do this while I was googling?

[Lisa]

Yeah, they just talk. Basically. Portia's like, portia will have a one on one with Drew, but she's not gonna do it in a group scene. That's what she basically says.

[Ben]

Tonight, the theme is black excellence. I wanted the ladies to wear all black, just super sexy black. So she's really excited about, you know, an all black party, which is kind of every party. And then so we go into this bank and it looks really cool. It's like all. It's like a huge vault door that you have to open it look kind of.

[Lisa]

They do a big transition shot. Oh, they had so much fun. And final cut on this episode because they had this giant vault door like you just said. And this guy opens the vault door and opens up very slowly. And on the, on the other side of the vault was a close up shot of Angela's face. I was like, wow, like walking confidently, like, oh, wow. Walk into Angela's mouth. That's what this is. Because they just had her face right inside the vault like this.

[Ben]

But I also kind of wanted to see what that restaurant looked like when you opened that giant door. I wanted to see a view of the restaurant. But you know what? Angela, Angela works too, so. And it was a cool edit. So then she's like, I don't care, whatever. What'd you say?

[Lisa]

I said it was a good use of masking. A little shout out to the post production team for their using the magnetic mask and Final Cut Pro. Can you tell I've been watching Final Cut Pro tutorials. My great use of the magnetic mask. Guys.

[Ben]

Can we get a little more soupy on that?

[Lisa]

Can we use a new filter? Oh, Carl, Carl, your editor now.

[Ben]

So everybody arrives wearing black and they're like, oh my God, you're wearing black. I'm wearing black. Oh my God, you look so good in black. You look good in black. I'm wearing black too. Kenya comes in and she's of course.

[Lisa]

Wearing bright, like, like a Statue of Liberty kind of. It was like the background of our screen here. She's wearing crappens blue, AKA Statue of Liberty green and. And Brits.

[Cher]

Like, I thought we were all wearing black. And Portia's like, what are you wearing? She's like, versace, honey.

[Lisa]

And they're like, you're supposed to wear black.

[Cher]

She goes, I didn't get the memo.

[Lisa]

But they're like, it's obvious. It was like, right. We see the invitations, like, right up there, right in the center. It's like, yeah, you were cordially invited to chic black dress code at a bank.

[Cher]

And she's like, I don't own black stuff.

[Ben]

Sorry, I was expecting. I'm. I'm expecting her to show up in the next scene wearing black, because that's very Kenya.

[Lisa]

She will.

[Ben]

So then she comes in hardcore to find, yeah, black. So she comes in and says hi to everybody and. And says hello to Britt.

[Cher]

And Brett's like, oh, wow, that was a pat. That wasn't a hug. She's like, that's a hug without getting makeup on me.

[Lisa]

I can't stand people like that. I cannot stand people. We've all met people who are like, like, okay, I guess that was a hug. Or like, are you not gonna say hi to me? And you, like, haven't said, like, you just haven't gone over to them yet. Brit is that person. She's needy as it's her insecurities. And, like, why should we all have to deal with the, like, the. The. The In. In your life? Because you haven't been able to deal with it properly. And this has nothing to do with her dad. I'm just saying, like, she's just one of those insecure people who like the moment, like, you don't give them a hard enough hug. They suddenly are triggered into thinking that, like, they are being like, they're alienated from the group. Like, relax, it was a hug.

[Ben]

I think she's just so, like, trying to start a fight over nothing. It's like, can we just have appetizers? Like, you don't have to try this hard. You try hard. She's so ridiculous. She to start a fight. And Kenya's not taking the bait. She's like, okay, well, I didn't mean it like that.

[Cher]

Whatever.

[Ben]

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[Ben]

Then Shamia comes in and they're like, are you holding olive oil? And she's like, my love language is gift. And you know, I just want to say, Angela, I don't want you to cook with this. I just want you to know I'm sincerely sorry for attacking your visible appearance when I could have been attacking your rancid inner dark crystal soul. So please take this olive oil with the stick hanging out of it. And Angela's like, great, just don't leave that on the countertop or Charles won't talk to you and then I won't be able to talk.

[Lisa]

Please make sure this doesn't leave a little oil ring somewhere. Yeah. So Shamia's like saying, yeah, love language. Her love language is gifts. And you know, she was happy that Angela accepted it. So that was a nice moment for the two of them. So now Angela kicks off the evening by welcoming everyone. And Kenya, they're getting their food and Kenya's like, like, what are those? And Porsche's like egg rolls. And she's like, but what's on the inside? And Portia's like peach cobbler egg rolls.

[Cher]

You know, everything's sunny southern. So, you know, cod green egg rolls.

[Lisa]

And they're joking like it's chitlin egg rolls. And like they, they have like a little like, yes. And bit about the egg rolls, which was really funny.

[Ben]

So then Kelly Sees Drew, and she's like, so you know, Drew, you brought some extra guests to my event last weekend? And I was like, like, well, she said she was bringing her sister, but now she's broad guests, and, wow. They didn't buy anything either.

[Lisa]

Well, you know who else didn't buy anything? All those children.

[Ben]

So, like, she's so silent movie star in the look she gets. She's like, I know.

[Lisa]

I totally. I loved that Kelly did this, though. Because, though, Drew. I know. And then we see Drew's makeup artist, Artez. He comes. He, like, walks in. And then Kelly says, well, he stayed, and he didn't buy anything. Meaning that, like, after Drew left, Artez just hung out and just was, like, in there for all the goss and try to get new clients. Yeah. So Kenya's like, didn't he buy something? Didn't everyone buy something? And then Kelly says, no, and Kenny's like, well, who didn't? And then Kelly does, like, a swivel and just stares at Drew, which, of course. Of course Drew didn't buy anything.

[Ben]

It's like, what? That's not true. It's not true at all. I got a blazer for my son. And Kelly's like, like, I did not see you walk out of the store with a bag.

[Lisa]

So then Drew is like, no. Well, it's being delivered. And then she pulls out her phone because she's gonna. She has proof. And she's like, here's the proof. And it's a text. And. Oh, she gets a text while. While she's showing the proof. And it's a group text with Dennis on it. And Kelly's like, I see Dennis texting Portia. It's Dennis texting. And she's like, it's a group text. Hello. It's not private. There are other people on there.

[Ben]

And Drew insists that the Balmain jacket cost her $2,000, which is why I really believe that she didn't buy it. And Kelly is like, well, you spoke as you spoke on buying something, and you even went as far as showing me a text message of you speaking with a sales associate. But you're not sending me a transaction. You didn't purchase anything. You're drinking champagne. You're eating hors d'oeuvres, and you're not buying anything. Clearly, she's not used to being in these rooms supporting a cause. Yeah, because normally you go to Balmain, and they're not, like, guilting you into giving 10% of money to somebody to buy their purses. Normally, Balmain can stand on its own. It doesn't need a charity crutch.

[Lisa]

Yeah, yeah, but Kelly is basically just saying that Drew just doesn't hang around in high end waffle circles. And it's a pretty damning accusation.

[Ben]

I don't think you're supposed to have. I mean, this is a classic Housewives thing though, right? You have a charity and then you shame people based on how much they give you. But I'm showing up to work, ma'am. I have to shoot scenes here and it's not fair that you have a scene that cost me money. Fuck off with that bullshit. I'm not going to go in there and spend five grand because you decided to have a charity that gives 10% back to an important cause. Fuck off. Have it at the hospital. Next time you want my money, you better have some. Make a wish, kids. Tap dancing. Earn it.

[Lisa]

Well, I, I, I really like that Kelly did this thing at Balmain and then shame Dr. Because that is, that is classic housewifery. And it's like, it's, we are getting like this show has really desperately needed some, like some rich to come in here and be snobby for a while because let's be honest, in the previous seasons it's been like, let's go to archive and shop in Marlo's leftovers. So it's nice to get back into like a proper store.

[Ben]

Red dresses to people who are 6 foot 4 and that's it.

[Lisa]

My size. Yeah, yeah, it's nice, it's nice to get out of. It's nice to get out of tags and archive and get back into Balmain. So I'm gonna support this, this entire endeavor.

[Ben]

Yeah. By the way, and she's not as ridiculous. She has not had as ridiculous moments yet. But I believe in her. I do get a little Marlo energy from Angela. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's the voice or the affectation. I really don't know what it is yet. But I'm just putting that bet down now.

[Lisa]

I think she has way she, she comes off as someone who has like, way more confidence. Like Marlo acts out in a way that you just feel like, oh, this is someone who's like desperate to be loved.

[Ben]

And Angela's like, these shows.

[Lisa]

I got a little.

[Ben]

Yeah, but we haven't seen Angela really pushed over the edge yet. So I want to see what she gets like when she's pushed over the edge because I'm just. Well, we slight bit of Marlowe. They're just slight. It's just a hint.

[Lisa]

Well, listen, she had a great comeback last week when she called Shamia Flava flav. So, like, if that's a sign of what's to come, I'm very, very excited.

[Ben]

Yeah. Okay, so now they order food, and they're talking about the hair spa, and Kenya's gonna have a party. You're all invited. We have movie screens. And so basically, they're all talking about how they're gonna go. And Porsche's like, well, I'm gonna take.

[Cher]

My weave out because I'm gon massage on my head.

[Lisa]

And she's joking about it. Better be for free. So then Angela's like, shamia, bring up. Just bring us up to speed with everything that's going on in your life. And she's like, well, thank you so much. Well, the first thing that's happened in my life.

[Ben]

She like, I want to play you my new single. So here's my phone, everybody. And she holds up her phone, she starts playing it. She starts singing along with it. It. It's like, yeah, yeah. Leaf blower. Leaf blower.

[Lisa]

Whoa. Leaf blower.

[Cher]

Leaf blow.

[Ben]

That is.

[Lisa]

I'm like. I'm like, yeah.

[Ben]

Twice as much as your last. As your last single.

[Lisa]

Yeah. And so she's singing, and Portia starts being such a person. She's being a dick. She's like, when is that? When.

[Cher]

When do you start singing?

[Lisa]

She's like, it's me.

[Cher]

No, that's not.

[Ben]

You.

[Cher]

That's true. When do you sing?

[Lisa]

No, I am.

[Cher]

That's true. What are you talking about? That's not your voice.

[Lisa]

She's like, I'm singing.

[Cher]

You think I don't know your singing voice? That's not. You're not singing right now.

[Lisa]

And she's. Shamir's getting so annoyed at her.

[Ben]

Yeah, Portia's just being an. Because Shamia had the nerve to kind of stand up to Portia on camera. And Portia no likey. She's like, okay, I'm the one who brought you on the show. I've kept you on the show for all these years, and now you're gonna come take my show over and be rude to me or like. Like, stand up to me? Because Portia deserved it. And Shamia didn't even do anything that bad. She was just visibly not pleased with Portia. And so now Portia is going to completely turn on Shamia. I mean, wow, that didn't take Portia.

[Lisa]

Portia also is. She is pretty controlling about how she films. We. I Mean, this whole Dennis thing, that is the. A full fledged example of it. We saw, we've seen her leave vacations early. We saw that she dropped the news about Simon the day after part three of the reunion that season ended. So she is really good about. She's really. She takes. Puts a lot of time and effort into plotting what comes on screen, what is not on screen, how it is on screen, and who is it with. And so this is all to say Shamia has been sidekick, a sidekick for years on this show. And now suddenly Shamia is not only a full fledged cast member, she is initially being seen as the glue for this cast in the first few episodes. I don't think Portia likes that personally. We already see that she's uncomfortable with Dennis having scenes with Drew, and obviously she's in a better position with Shamia, but I don't think she's comfortable with Shamia having a peach.

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly. And she's gonna make her pay for it. And if you don't believe that Portia is a controlling diva nightmare, watch her spin off show. Yikes.

[Lisa]

Yikes.

[Ben]

It was so good. What a mess that show was. Okay, so. And I like that the producers are keeping a bit that in because they're making Portia look so stupid. They more like it. Like they're just editing in after she does. You know, she says something she thinks is smart. I mean, they're kind of coming for her and I like it. So let's see. So Shami is not.

[Lisa]

She's just.

[Ben]

She's like, okay, so now you're saying you don't really think that's me. That's great. Thanks.

[Lisa]

And Portia tries to back. She tries to back, backtrack. And she's like.

[Cher]

When I say it sounds like Drew, it's because I think it sounds good. I genuinely thought it was Drew. Sing.

[Lisa]

No, no, no, that's too late. Too late.

[Ben]

No, you're being shady. A game with deposit slips, which they write. You know, it's just another way of that. Let's ask each other questions in order to start fights at this dinner. Yeah, we don't know each other that well yet, so they do that. And the first question is, Shamia, what did you first do to earn that? What did you do to thank your husband for that Rolls Royce he bought you? And she's, you know, does her like clapping her butt cheeks like, okay, next. Has Angela had a threesome? And she's like, hell no. My God. One time we tried that and someone actually got up on the Counter. And they were almost murdered. You gotta watch that in my house.

[Lisa]

And then someone does. Someone says, I did hear your husband was spicy. And Angela's like, he can be. And Portia's like, well, now I've heard something else about Charles. Because they're sort of alluding that there's like. Like there are stories about Charles that are out there.

[Ben]

So then Britt is like, I heard something about Charles. And she go.

[Cher]

And Britt's like, wait a minute, Portia, you've got tea.

[Lisa]

And she's.

[Cher]

Portia's like, I'll wait. I'm gonna wait.

[Lisa]

Andrew's like, well, what did you hear about my husband? She's like, I'm gonna wait.

[Cher]

Okay, next question.

[Lisa]

So the next question. Well, no, Angela's like, portia doesn't even want to speak about her own marriage under her own and her own relationship. So why are you mentioning my husband? Like, don't even say Charles's name. Don't even get it out. I'm sorry. Stupid.

[Ben]

The producer goes, what? And she says, nothing. So now, Kenya, what color panties do you have on? So she. She throws her panties. She shows her panties, like, oh, my.

[Cher]

God, that's the biggest vagina. It's gonna eat all the food.

[Ben]

And then we get to.

[Lisa]

We get to shady questions. So, yeah, it's the silly questions, which, by the way, thankfully, the silly part was, like, really brief. It wasn't like, Potomac or, like Beverly Hills, where they draw out the. Or Real Housewives of New York. Like, what' Your favorite sexual position you've had while eating ice cream. And then it's like 10 minutes of them talking about it, and then 10 minutes of interviews of them reacting like, vanilla ice cream. I don't think I can eat vanilla ever again. So this is just like a quick thing. And then they get to the shady questions. So. So then they're basically, they come for Kenya. And by they, I mean Brit.

[Cher]

So Brit says to Kenya, can you speak to Brit kindly and not with an attitude? I didn't write it, I promise.

[Ben]

Well, the first was. There was a first question that says that Drew read, that was like, kenya, why are you so worried about a happily married woman? And Kenya just kind of laughs it off. She goes, hahaha. It's a habit. And Kelly's like a habit. She goes, I'm just being silly. And so now Brits asked the question. You just said, can you speak to.

[Cher]

Brit kindly and not with an attitude. I didn't write that. I promise. Promise. I didn't write it. But it's hilarious. Are you mad because Brit's gorgeous and wears denim tops? Are you jealous of insurance agents?

[Lisa]

So then Kenya's like, well, the answer.

[Cher]

Is yes, I can speak to everyone.

[Lisa]

Kindly without an attitude. And I think I have.

[Cher]

And so Brit's like, yeah, but we're talking about me, sweetheart. So what do you mean, why? I've got the floor, baby.

[Lisa]

You're the one with the attitude here. Kenya does not give you any attitude or any, like, really significant attitude for Kenya still smiling.

[Ben]

And she's just like, you want a moment? Happy? Your moment.

[Cher]

Not a moment.

[Ben]

She goes, yeah, it's a big moment for you.

[Cher]

She goes, you're having a moment. Do you need to step out? Do you need to step out?

[Ben]

And I cannot believe Drew wasn't like, well, thank you for acknowledging that, because that it's close. It's close to one of my huge films.

[Lisa]

Yeah, the pass. It's also close to my ex husband's book, the Step in Parenting. So then Kenya's like, step up, up, Drew. Oh, she wasn't. Step up. You're right. Yeah. I thought there was a reference to the step in parenting.

[Ben]

And then.

[Lisa]

Then I was thinking about dropping with Drew when they did steps. Anyway, so Brit is like.

[Cher]

To drop it.

[Ben]

Can you. She's like, thank you. Thank you again.

[Lisa]

Just.

[Ben]

Thank you.

[Lisa]

So Brit is like. She. Brit's like. Like, do you need to. Like, you're having.

[Cher]

Oh, you're having a moment. Do you need to step out?

[Lisa]

And Kenny was like, I am a moment. I can speak to everyone.

[Cher]

And Brit's like, oh, well, this wasn't about everyone. You it again. Would you like me to hear it again?

[Lisa]

Like, wow, you're really fired up about a question you, quote, unquote, didn't write yourself.

[Ben]

She's like, the SNL parrot. Or the. The one that the girls did years ago, like, the hot wives, where they would just be like, pepper. You said you want pepper. How dare you?

[Lisa]

Yeah, the person's gonna grasp. Yeah, like, ready to be, like, a professional reality star. So Kenya's like, okay, I'm not gonna play these childish games. Peasants cannot come for queens.

[Cher]

And she's like, that was what you said, Peasant.

[Lisa]

Angela's like, okay, guys, we have olive oil over here. Olive branch. Charles is gonna get mad soon if it spills. So come on, enjoy it.

[Ben]

When she goes, girls have got olive oil over here. And so Kenya's like, please stop.

[Cher]

And Britt goes, I didn't send for her.

[Ben]

Kenny goes, oh, yeah, thanks for using one of My catchphrases.

[Cher]

Just, girl, get the out of here. Get out of here.

[Lisa]

And everyone's like, okay, whatever.

[Cher]

Some people are trying to be the wrong ones for comment. Like, get the out of here.

[Ben]

Everyone knows, like, everyone sees how ridiculous she's being, but she just won't stop.

[Cher]

Saying, oh, yeah, you want to come for me? You want to be me? I'm like a piece of apple pie. Everyone's gonna get a piece today.

[Ben]

Come at me and what are you? And here's how you know she's wrong with you.

[Lisa]

It felt very like, was she. It was. You know, it was kind of like Brittany Bateman trying to have a scene on. On Salt Lake City, you know? And, like, Brittany Bayman was funny because she also was just as blatant and obvious, but she. She just flopped so many times. Just grew to enjoy it. But Brit isn't at that level yet of flopping. So many. This is just, like, she needs to do a whole bunch of flops. But she is also met with the same thing that Brittany Bateman was often met with, which is indifference. And that's really a bad sign when she's trying to stir this whole thing up and she's starting to get feisty and just no one's paying attention. Everyone's like, okay, whatever. We're gonna go now.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Lisa]

They're like, Kenya's like, whatever. Kenya's just ignoring it. She's trying to gather the veterans to, like, you know, Kiki about it, etc, Like. Like, she doesn't care.

[Ben]

Yeah, I like that. When Kenya was like, can all the people who have been on this show come outside with me? And so they start leaving. And this is when Brit is like, well, hold on.

[Cher]

Let me call my husband that cares about me.

[Ben]

And Kenya's like, she's kind of important. Like, yeah, she's being extra. So Brit's like, wait, let me come on this side so I can be aware of my surroundings. Oh, we're not done.

[Cher]

We're not done. We're still catching this moment. Why are you going? I'm gonna call my husband. I'm gonna call my husband. And my husband's calling everyone. My husband's calling. Oh, do you guys have a husband? Because I've got a husband. He's calling right now.

[Lisa]

It's like, oh, my God. Shut the up.

[Ben]

Yeah. So Drew's like, what are we doing? Can I put this gift down? It's really heavy. We didn't even see what was in the gift, did we?

[Lisa]

No, we didn't. They got these Big ass gifts. And now they're all just like, literally, the veterans are getting into their own car to drive away to talk smack about the newbies.

[Ben]

And I like that. Drew's basically like, are we filming? Because I don't have the upper body stre. Hold us. Oh, we are filming. Oh, yeah. She's lifting it up and down.

[Lisa]

She's like, yeah, doing reps. Not dropping it with. She's like, this is hard because I want to show I can do reps, but I also need to drop it to show I can drop it with Drew.

[Ben]

So Brit still keeps going. Now she's on the phone.

[Cher]

She's so many fun. My husband. Where you at, baby?

[Ben]

And then the Kenya. The vets, Kenya, Shimia, and Portia go to the car, and Brett's like, I'm ready.

[Cher]

Maybe I had to let that know. I mean, don't play with me.

[Ben]

And Brit starts going off like, everything's.

[Cher]

Fine, everything's cool, everything's good. Kenya, her little ditzy ass, like, play that in front of the cameras. Don't play that with me. I don't play those games. I don't play them. I got whips. I got a pistol. I got everything.

[Ben]

I was like, oh, no. Really?

[Lisa]

So, yeah, she's really trying so hard right now.

[Cher]

She play that for the cameras. Don't play that with me.

[Lisa]

She calls you a peasant girl. You really have to relax. Yeah.

[Ben]

She called you a peasant, and you're begging your husband for extra money to not have popcorn ceilings. Like, she wasn't wrong. You know what I mean?

[Lisa]

I. Yeah, I'm shocked that she's not getting along with her sisters.

[Cher]

She goes do all that thing. Hollywood. This is real life. This is real life.

[Lisa]

This is real life. You just had a dinner party in a bank vault. It's not real life. I'm telling you this right now. It's not.

[Cher]

I don't play those type of games. You want to be respectful? No peasants. You got to be respectful around here. And if you don't know, you're gonna learn today. This is the day you're gonna learn.

[Lisa]

See, this is why I'm sad that Kenya really screws the pooch next week. Because this is the perfect example of why Kenya is really, like, one of the all time greatest villains, because she can say one word. She calls this girl a peasant, and Brit has now lost the thread. She is spiraling in a parking lot outside of the fake bank and losing her mind, threatening to pull out whips and pistols because she was called a peasant. While the person who she's yelling at is in a car has already driven away. I mean, I think this is, like. That is how, like, Kenya just is like one of those people who knows to say the right thing just to send someone off. And it's so good. And it makes me so mad that she. She. She. She messed up so much next week.

[Ben]

Well, I think it's also just that Britney wants to fight so bad, and Kenya's just not giving it to her. So she's like a little kid, you know, she's way. So she's just going crazier and crazier. And now she's just, like, sitting there yelling and threatening to. Threatening to shoot people or insinuating that she could shoot people just to keep it technical. And meanwhile, Kenya's like, whatever. So she gets in Porsche's car, and they drive off, but their mics are still on, and Brit's still going off.

[Cher]

Oh, she's one of those types where she just wants to keep poking and being dismissive. Well, take it. I'm wearing a denim top, and I knew we real estate, and I'm high.

[Ben]

And the girls in the car. Kenya's like, wow.

[Lisa]

She's talking about.

[Ben]

Really?

[Lisa]

Of course.

[Cher]

She said gun.

[Lisa]

And Kenya's like, yeah, she was talking about she still's got a pistol on me. I mean, this girl is a problem. She's gotta go. She's got to go for real. And Portia's like, yeah, she's got a.

[Cher]

Little hype, so I'm gonna go this way.

[Lisa]

And Kenya's like, please, please let her do something to me so she can go, okay. Oh, but, oh, look. Charles Oakley is here. I'm not going anywhere near Charles. I don't want with Angela, so. Which is sort of to imply that there's something going on with Charles.

[Ben]

But I think. I don't mean. I don't. I didn't mean yikes to that. I just meant yikes to the. To the Brit stuff.

[Lisa]

Like, y. Yeah, no, I. I'm. I'm saying yikes, too, because I think Kenya may have spilled something in Charles's presence. And that's a no. No.

[Ben]

Well, that brings us to the end of Atlanta. Down with Brit. I say, I think she sucks.

[Lisa]

Yeah, she does.

[Ben]

I don't need any.

[Lisa]

She really does suck.

[Ben]

Like, if this is her audition, you're done. If just try too hard, we would have been like, go away. You're trying way too hard. And this is not the. This is not the show for that, ma'am. Okay. You're trash.

[Lisa]

Yeah, she did okay the first poor.

[Ben]

And pretend you're getting lobster catered somewhere else. Ma'am, I can't.

[Lisa]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Bye.

[Lisa]

Yeah. Anyway, thanks everyone for being here. Thanks everyone that came out to our shows over the weekend. Those were so wonderful. And we will will see you on the next episode. Bye. Bye.

[Ben]

Bye.

[Lisa]

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