#2784 Crappy Hour 3/31/2025: Garcelle Out, Erika Jayne Sued Again, Bethenny Ticks Off Dolores

Summary

Watch What Crappens - Episode #2784 Summary

Episode Title: Crappy Hour 3/31/2025: Garcelle Out, Erika Jayne Sued Again, Bethenny Ticks Off Dolores
Release Date: April 1, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Podcast: Wondery

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1. Garcelle Exits Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

One of the most significant developments discussed in this episode is Garcelle Beauvais walking off Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH). The hosts delve into the possible reasons behind her departure, highlighting tensions during the reunion episodes.

Key Points:

• Reunion Drama: Garcelle’s exit occurred post-reunion, possibly due to her comments about Dorit Kemsley’s alleged robbery and Kyle Richards' personal matters.

• Host Reactions:

  • Ben: Expresses sadness over Garcelle's departure, emphasizing her loyalty and support for Sutton.

    “I think we've all really enjoyed Garcelle and Sutton, and Garcelle has had Sutton's back so, so intensely.” [04:17]

  • Ronnie: Predicts that Sutton will now face increased viewer backlash without Garcelle's protection.

    “Sutton's about to get a nice taste of real viewer hate as well.” [05:02]

Notable Quote:

Ronnie: “Don't leave Garcelle. But she's gone.” [14:14]

2. Erika Jayne Faces Another Lawsuit

Erika Jayne, a prominent figure in Bravo’s reality TV landscape, is once again embroiled in legal troubles. The hosts provide an overview of the ongoing lawsuit and its implications.

Key Points:

• Legal Issues: Erika Jayne is sued for $24 million due to alleged mishandling of funds by her ex-lawyer, Tom Girardi.

• Details of the Lawsuit:

  • The bankruptcy trustee, Alyssa Miller, accuses Erika of spending fraudulent funds.
  • The lawsuit alleges that Erika failed to file necessary paperwork, leading to financial discrepancies.

• Host Opinions:

  • Ronnie: Supports Alyssa Miller's case and criticizes Erika's alleged misconduct.

    “I'm rooting for you, Alyssa. You go.” [13:43]

  • Ben: Skeptical about the credibility of international paparazzi tracking Kyle Richards, drawing parallels to Erika’s situation.

    “I do not believe any international paparazzi care about Kyle Richards.” [07:11]

Notable Quote:

Ben: “I do not believe any international paparazzi care about Kyle Richards.” [07:11]

3. Bethenny Frankel Criticizes Dolores Catania

Bethenny Frankel, another staple of Bravo’s reality TV, takes aim at Dolores Catania, stirring up drama within the Real Housewives of New York (RHONY) community.

Key Points:

• Bethenny’s Comments: During a discussion on Dinner Party Download, Bethenny refers to RHONY as a “trash dumpster fire” and criticizes its financial issues.

• Dolores’ Reaction: Dolores responds in a podcast interview, calling the show “trashy and broken,” further escalating tensions.

• Host Reactions:

  • Ronnie: Condemns Bethenny’s harsh remarks and defends Dolores to an extent.

    “You are Bravo fans. We never die.” [31:14]

  • Ben: Highlights the continued drama but maintains a critical stance towards the cast members involved.

    “She's a slob.” [20:30]

Notable Quote:

Ronnie: “Bethany trying to come for people that she can't come for.” [20:30]

4. Additional Bravo Gossip and Updates

Beyond the main topics, the hosts touch upon various other happenings within the Bravo universe, including controversies, career shifts, and personal updates of different reality TV stars.

Key Points:

• Brooke Mueller vs. Denise Richards: Brooke Mueller claims she wasn't paid for Denise Richards' reality show, leading to conflicts and humorous banter between the hosts.

• Lisa Rinna’s Career Shift: Lisa Rinna discusses her transition from RHOBH to focusing on her fashion career, feeling abandoned by viewers.

  “She stopped being the Rinna that we fell in love with.” [22:15]

• Louis Ruelis' Financial Troubles: Teresa Giudice's husband, Louis Ruelis, faces mortgage issues, requesting an extension and additional funds for his $1 million loan.

• Gia Mantegna’s Career Move: Gia Mantegna announces her shift from being an immigration lawyer to becoming an influencer, sparking jokes and criticism from the hosts.

Notable Quotes:

Ben: “Even Little hats. She gave Godzilla little hats.” [16:33]
Ronnie: “Denise has been answering a banana.” [16:52]

5. Real Housewives of Atlanta: Kenya vs. Brit Showdown

The episode delves into the escalating conflict between Kenya Scott and Brit Morin on Real Housewives of Atlanta (RHOA), which has captured viewers' attention.

Key Points:

• Brit’s Provocation: Brit Morin instigates conflict by threatening Kenya with a pistol, prompting backlash from both coaches and viewers.

• Kenya’s Stance: Kenya remains composed, refusing to engage in unnecessary drama, which has garnered support from the audience.

• Potential Consequences: Discussions revolve around whether Kenya should face repercussions for not addressing Brit’s threats adequately.

• Host Opinions:

  • Ben: Questions Bravo’s handling of the situation and Kenya’s reaction.

    “Brit was desperate for a fight, so thirsty for a moment, so pathetic.” [48:52]

  • Ronnie: Supports Kenya but criticizes her for occasionally overstepping.

    “I am team Kenya on this. I'm not off often.” [50:11]

Notable Quotes:

Ben: “Brit was so thirsty for a fight, so thirsty for a moment, we all recognize it.” [48:52]
Ronnie: “Teddy, stop that.” [21:29]

6. Lisa Barlow’s Pursuit of a Music Career

Lisa Barlow announces her foray into music alongside her partnership with Clorox. The hosts humorously critique her new venture.

Key Points:

• Music Career Launch: Lisa Barlow is taking voice lessons and preparing to debut her singing career, leveraging her partnership with Clorox.

• Host Reactions:

  • Ronnie: Mockingly criticizes the endeavor as "vocal terrorism."

    “Please stop vocal terrorism.” [37:26]

  • Ben: Expresses skepticism about the practicality and success of Lisa’s musical ambitions.

    “Distractify is also the thing you have to do when you hear Lisa Barlow sing.” [37:17]

Notable Quotes:

Ronnie: “I live on Diet Coke, Peanut MS, and KitKats.” [38:05]
Ben: “I do like you sometimes. Here's a picture of me and you in a yellow jeep by a palm tree.” [10:24]

7. Listener Interactions and Community Feedback

The hosts encourage listener engagement, inviting feedback and discussions about the latest Bravo happenings. They express interest in hearing audience opinions on ongoing storylines and cast dynamics.

Key Points:

• Audience Engagement: Ben and Ronnie seek listener thoughts on the new RHOA season, Garcelle’s departure, and other Bravo developments.

• Community Insights: They acknowledge the passionate Bravo fan base and the varied reactions to cast changes and conflicts.

Notable Quotes:

Ben: “I would love to hear from people when we start going, when we go to bring people up or just even in the comments.” [52:52]
Ronnie: “For those of you listening on audio, thank you so much for being here.” [53:23]

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Conclusion

In this episode of Watch What Crappens, Ben and Ronnie navigate through a maze of drama surrounding Bravo’s reality TV stars. From Garcelle’s exit and Erika Jayne’s legal woes to Bethenny Frankel’s sharp-tongued critiques, the hosts provide insightful and often humorous takes on the latest developments. Additionally, they explore conflicts within Real Housewives of Atlanta and other insider gossip, all while maintaining an engaging dialogue that keeps both seasoned Bravo fans and newcomers entertained.

Notable Closing Quote:

Ronnie: “You’re bad. She sucks.” [25:49]

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Transcript

[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

Who cares what happens when there's so much crap? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?

[Ronnie]

Hello and welcome to crappie hour. March 31, 2025. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hi, Ben.

[Ben]

Hi, Ronnie. How are you?

[Ronnie]

Good. How are you doing today?

[Ben]

Oh, my God, I feel great. We just made it through three weekends in a row of doing live shows, flying back on Mondays to land and record episodes. It's been such a crazy three weeks for us, and now we're finally at the end of it. So I just feel magnificent that we made it through. Yeah. So fun. Oh, my God.

[Ronnie]

And it's been a whirlwind day. We did a Real Housewives of Atlanta recap. We got halfway through White Lotus on Patreon, so we'll finish that after this show. And we've just been laughing our asses off for three days straight. So, you know, what a life. I can't complain.

[Ben]

Yeah, we've had our best time. It was. It was a great weekend. It was so fun. It was so I. Partially because I also wedged in a board game convention in the middle of it. So, you know, I got to do everything.

[Ronnie]

You've got a. You've got a glorious sickness. I mean, your sickness is a good one. I'm like, indulge, baby, indulge. You will find fucking board gamers wherever you are.

[Ben]

I went out and played board. After our show, I went out and played board games at a bar with people. And we played this game. We played this game called Gibberers where you have to make up a language. And we're sitting there in this bar loudly yelling, koopa pupaka kupaka, puka, puka, kupaka. And people kept on staring over at us, and it was just peak nerdery. And I loved it. And to know that, like, it was just, like, to me, it was just amazing. It would be like, oh, we did this amazing crap and show nerding out over, like Southern charm that night. And then to go to a bar and nerd out in the. With game, not game shows, board games. It was like the best night ever for me.

[Ronnie]

So good. All right, well, here we are with another week of some Bravo news and gossip. One of the biggest things going on this week that was pretty sad is Garcelle walked off Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She was like, goodbye. Goodbye. This is apparently after the reunion. The reunions begins this week for Beverly Hills, the three part reunion. Apparently they all come for Dorit or for Garcelle, because Garcelle, you know, mentioned Dorit's robbery probably being faked by PK or hinted at that, that or whatever. And then, you know, coming after her for mentioning Kyle's alleged lesbianism. And Sutton chose the side. She chose the side of Fox4.5, Fox Force 5, which she's never going to be a part of. So Garcelle was like you guys and quit the show. What do you think?

[Ben]

That is so sad. If that one. If that is true, if that is what ultimately happened, which probably is, that's such a bummer because I think we've all really enjoyed Garcelle and Sutton, and Garcelle has had Sutton's back so, so intensely. And she's also had her back during times when, like sun said, problematic. And Garcelle probably got flack for standing by Sutton, but she. She saw something in Sutton that was more than that and she stood by her. And it's just sucky that sudden wants Kyle's love and wants. Wants to be part of this clique so badly that she is going to turn her back on. On Garcelle. It makes me really bummed.

[Ronnie]

And Sutton's about to get a nice taste of real viewer hate as well, because she's also been protected by Garcel in a way, because as monstrous as Sutton can be on the show, she's always had Garcel to be like, well, she's okay. I think she's okay. Which I think makes a lot of us kind of forgive Sutton. Like, well, Garcelle thinks she's okay. You know, she must be okay. And now she. Over Garcelle. And Sutton's really going to get a taste of that. According to Parade.com, which I don't know this originated, but Garcelle Bouvet and Sutton stra. Still not speaking after the union. So I guess they're. They're dark, though, in real life, too.

[Ben]

Listen, I th. This is bad for Sutton because, you know, this is how. You know that the audience has turned on you. I went on to Twitter and someone wrote, like, their. Their caption was. I love the way that she just. She just stayed reading Sutton for Filth. And it was like a clip of Diana Jenkins just going off on Sutton for, like, a minute, being like, who does that?

[Ronnie]

Who.

[Ben]

Who makes fun of someone? I was bleeding. I was bleeding. Just Diana going on and on and on. I was like, wow, if you're kind of like taking a pro Diana stance in order to, like, never know.

[Ronnie]

You never know when things are going to turn in the Bravo world, I saw somebody say, bring Diana back. I was like, what in the world is happening here? That is the power that, you know, Garcelle has. I mean, Jesus Christ. But, yeah, Diana, still. I don't care. I don't forget. Okay, well, actually, I forget most everything but that. I'm not going to forget that lady. And still team Sutton in that situation for the most part. But, yeah, Sutton. Sutton up big on this one. And meanwhile, Kyle's like, why are you bringing up my lesbian storyline? We don't do that in the LGBTQI plus community. Meanwhile, Kyle has been seen all over the place following Morgan on her international tour. They've got, you know, she's calling the. The paps in Ireland. She's calling them in France. She's got them all over the place. Getting pictures of her, for sure. To get pictures of her and Morgan into any sad magazine that she can. And by sad magazine, I mean all the ones that I read.

[Ben]

I. I'm just going to say this right now. I do not believe any international paparazzi. Paparazzi care about Kyle Richards. There's no way any. Any. Any of them are tracking down Kyle or Mauricio or Morgan Wade, okay? Without being paid or tipped off or arranged. Because they've got their own British stars and. And European stars over there that are way more significant to them than Kyle Richards. This is totally A setup. A hundred percent.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I don't. No one cares about that Morgan Wade. Although Morgan Wade, you know, she's like, yeah, I ain't gonna be on your show this year. You know, I'm gonna do that to me again. I mean, I know I could sit there and talk about shrimp all day. I will wet win it. Fried shrimp, boiled shrimp, beetle shrimp, popcorn shrimp. But she's actually done very well from this because I see people posting all the time, hey, look, it's me at a Morgan Wayne concert no one cared about.

[Ben]

Yeah, she's better.

[Ronnie]

I'm sorry. I know that. I know that Morgan had some success or whatever, but she's gotten a huge boon from the Bravo audience. So at least get your ass on camera, ma'am, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Ronnie]

Pay it back.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ronnie]

At the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. Sun's.

[Ben]

Well, so then you mentioned, I think, on the show, and you definitely talked to me about it, because I didn't actually watch it, but about how. How. I'm sorry not to read it. Was Bose and was it Erica that she was on with. On what happens live.

[Ronnie]

Happens live. Yes.

[Ben]

And they just were very still. They were very. They were very cold. Ye. Or unfeeling about the fact that Garcel had left. And so everyone got mad at them, and everyone got really mad at both.

[Ronnie]

For those that didn't see the clip that. That we were talking about, Andy said, so what do you guys think of Garcel leaving the show? And they just both. Erica set up very straight, and they just both stared straight ahead and were silent. And he's like, okay, you don't think anything of it. They just stared straight ahead, like, being really super catty, which I think the world expects from Erica, but the world does not really expect that from Bose, you know, and then Bose gave some.

[Ben]

And.

[Ronnie]

And, like, really, you guys can't say anything? And Bose eventually gave some answer that was like, well, you know, I wish she'd stayed around to work it out. Which was kind of supportive, but also kind of being like, why is she such a w. She couldn't, like, stick around kind of thing, right? Wow.

[Ben]

Well, Bose. Yeah, well, Bose. She posted the next day on Instagram. She did a whole. She did a. A thing. And she was like, to Garcelle, for your pioneering bravery and grace in five seasons of Rho bh. Well done. I wish we had had more time together on this platform to continue showing the world that us can exist in the same space, which, by the Way I invented space with different offerings and different opinions and besties, but still find a way to resolve our differences without tearing the world apart. And that we're able to shine bright together. And individually, too. You are leaving on your terms. And while I am disappointed by your exit, it is commendable. I'm wishing you even greater success. Onward. With respect. Always. And as evidence that we. I do like you sometimes. Here's a picture of me and you in a yellow jeep by a palm tree. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

And it was like page three of a carousel. And it was too little, too late, ma'am. Sorry, but that ship had already sailed. It doesn't count when you're already in trouble with everybody. You know what I mean? This is already getting a taste of what it's like, and now people are pulling up all sorts of stuff they're putting out. Well, I'd seen these articles before about, like, Boses. You know, Bose's career sucked anyway, and, you know, I don't want to go that far. I mean, I don't need to drag the woman that far. I still like bows, you know, I love those. She came off as an with Watch what Happens Live because she was. Well, not because she was with Eric. She came off like an on her own, but I still like her. I mean, I don't care.

[Ben]

You know what? Spring came a little early, which meant the flower is blooming. Good for both. I really love Bose. I think she's a tremendous addition, and I'm excited. Like, you know, she's allowed to get. I think she's allowed to. To. To have these moments, because that's part of being a real housewife, is that you sneer on Watch what Happens Live and then it becomes a storyline for the next nine months.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, exactly. It's. That's the game, people. But on that same episode, Erica was like, yeah, I just wish you would have been more interesting. Like Erica, the wallpaper queen, like, talking about, yeah, more interesting. And then she said, I mean, you're gonna have to do more than buying a. Buying a beach house in Bakersfield, judging it. As if her ass wasn't an hour away in Pasadena half the time. And.

[Ben]

Exactly.

[Ronnie]

Not to mention her ass is being sued again this week for $24 million because she never turned in her paperwork. Her old lawyer in Flor. Tom's friend that's been allegedly supporting her and getting her that house in West Hollywood and all that other stuff, didn't even file the paperwork. Jim Wilkes. And so now in this Marco. Marco lawsuit, which I bring up every week on recaps to remind people that she screwed those over. She screwed these two gay guys over so bad. They had a company that produced all of her costumes. She said, never send me an invoice. I don't want to even see him. I'm that rich. Just keep going. Well, then they got in trouble with Amex because they had an unpaid bill of like 100 grand or something. And they had friends that owed them. They had a friend that owed them as a favorite, a secret at the Secret Service. And literally Erica lied and allegedly lied and said that they overcharged her and that they owe her a hundred thousand dollars. And they store they ruined their lives. They ruined these guys lives. And so they're suing her. Rightly so. I hope she gets taken for every once. She doesn't have that much. I hope they literally come peel the. I hope Marco Marco's let them come in and pe wallpaper off her wall of that house by the time.

[Ben]

Oh, but that came from inj. How could you take away the wallpaper that I curated for her from inj? Poor Martin watching his wallpaper getting peeled away. Sadly. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So the headline from the sun is I can't hide. Erica Jane headed to trial after she's accused of spending $24 million in ex Tom Girardi's fraudulent funds. Now, ever since all this stuff started happening with Erica, you know, a big argument on l Internet has been, you know, how is she supposed to know what Tom was doing? Well, this lawsuit is being brought by the bankruptcy trustee, Alyssa Miller, who claims that she knew exactly what she was doing and she can prove it. And that's how she's going to get her win. So I'm rooting for you, Alyssa. You go.

[Ben]

You go, girl. We'll see how that one pans out. So what else? What else happened here? That was exciting sighting and that was the big thing in terms of Beverly Hills, right? It was Garcelle. Garcelle leaving everyone shocked. It is kind of funny because I feel like so many people were so mean about Garcelle all season long with the like. And, you know, even me, I was like, I love Garcelle. Don't need to see. Like her personal life is kind of boring. But she's great in group scenes. We all say that. But then the moment that she's like, well, I'm gonna leave. We're like, no, don't leave. Don't leave Garcelle. But she's gone.

[Ronnie]

That's our first need their personal lives to be exciting. What Garcelle was good at was calling people out and saying things that you're not allowed to say to Kyle because Kyle, you know, is always protected. And Garcelle doesn't care. She's like, so are we talking about this lesbian storyline or not? Are you just going to parade it to People magazine for money and your other show on Netflix, but not give it to us. Give it to us. Which I liked. And calling Erica out and all that other stuff. So, you know, I think she was good at that kind of stuff. So I'm gonna miss her. I'm gonna miss that voice on the show for sure.

[Ben]

Yeah, she's the last. Yeah, she's. She was really good at calling people out.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. But other stuff going on, some Jersey stuff. Is that where you're going to. Sorry, I thought you were. I was gonna go bring stuff up. You don't.

[Ben]

I was. I know. Well, you know, that's. Watch what happens. That's how we do things here. So. No, the reason why is because I keep on looking at this one link that's really small gossip, but I keep on looking at it. About Brooke Mueller being upset that she wasn't paid for Denise Richards reality show. Can you tell me, I. I can't imagine anyone was paid for that show. It is the most, like, this is a show about people who were on something like on episodes of things in the 90s and like now they're playing guitar and just like in the fringes of Hollywood being like, I'm still here. I don't think anyone's getting paid on that show.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, but it's especially kind of grody for Brooke because Brooke, like, who's calling Brooke? You know what I mean? I think with the show, like Denise is. It's like, yeah, I'll come on your show, you know, you'll publicize your cooking show and then I'll publicize my cooking thing. Or like Tori Spelling's like, I'll publicize my podcast and you know, whatever. And then Kathy Hilton's like, well, we'll try and make America forget that I sent my daughter to a prison camp or whatever. You know, like, everybody gets something out of it. It's like, why you guest guest on another podcast? You know, you're trying to help each other out. But Brooke is like, I wasn't paid. She's not even calling me back. Brooke, you went to rehab and left your 10 foot lizard at her front door and she took care of that and build it a huge cowboy pioneer city to live in.

[Ben]

Even Little hats. She gave Godzilla little hats. I mean, I kind of feel like the moment you drop a lizard on someone's doorstep and then have them take care of it for nine months while you're in rehab, I think that is the payment. I think. I think it was paid in advance. You got paid.

[Ronnie]

And Gizmo, you know, or guess. Yeah, Godzilla or whatever his name was.

[Ben]

Yeah, I don't want to hear about it. Brooke. Yeah, she's saying that Denise isn't calling her back. Denise is probably isn't calling her back because Denise probably put the phone into the. Into the. Into the standing mixer and like. Well, it's in the past now.

[Ronnie]

Denise has been answering a banana. Okay. She doesn't mean any harm.

[Ben]

Sorry, I was. I couldn't reach the phone because Aaron was using it to look up videos of Brooke Williamson. It says hall pass. He's really upset now that she's dating Bobby Flay, which is other. I guess technically that's bravo gossip.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I don't care, Brooke. Try harder. You know, you're lucky somebody pulled you out of your house and, like, put you on a TV show that you're so charismatic on, saying, hey, so you broke. Hi, my lizard's dead. Oh, and then Brooke just shows up and then she's like, my lizard's dead. Will you guys have a funeral for it? Do it like. Yeah, he's so entitled. She just comes in and makes them throw a lizard funeral, you know? She does. Yeah. That was it herself.

[Ben]

Yeah. That wasn't free getting those frames. Frames are expensive, okay? I guarantee that whatever she earned would have earned on this reality show would not have caught. Would not have covered the cost for half of those frames. Okay? So I don't want to hear it. Brooke.

[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

I don't want to say things I can't take back, but I'm just gonna say it. She's a slob. There. I'm sorry. Sorry. I should have warned you. If there were children in the room, I apologize. She's a slo.

[Ronnie]

So I like, I just like Bethany trying to come for people that she can't come for. But speaking of two T's in the pod, have you seen all this stuff with Teddy, you know, Teddy, and God bless her in both. Both ways, you know, the good way and the bad way. But Teddy has, like, brain cancer and is going through all of this shit. She's going through, like, some serious stuff. And so Teddy's been getting a lot of goodwill, I think, from everyone, from the audience, from her fellow bravo people, and rightly so. You know, that's a. That's a huge deal, like tumors and stuff. Well, Teddy comes back to her show and starts going on. Starts, like, naming a list of all the people who haven't been calling her with cancer. Teddy, really? You're gonna do that? Like, you've got all this goodwill? Teddy, just stop. Please don't do this. She's like, let me tell you who else didn't call me about my cancer. Dorit Kemsley. And she's, like, shaming people. She's got, like a. A cancer call list that she's. She's putting up for people to go after. That's just rank. Teddy, stop that.

[Ben]

Well, I mean, actually, like, she just did Dorit a favor because the whole fight with Dorit and Kyle at the beginning of the season was Dorit claiming that she wasn't as close with Teddy. And she's like, see, I didn't know. I don't even call her for cancer. So there. Did her a solid. You backed up her story.

[Ronnie]

But how is Teddy, like, the only person in the world to, like, blow a cancer storyline? Like, you finally got everybody's goodwill on the Internet. This has literally never happen. Blow it within a week. Come on, girl. But still get better. She's probably going through a lot with trauma.

[Ben]

Oh, my goodness. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Lord knows what's going on. But I just thought, God, that's just so Teddy, you know? God bless her.

[Ben]

Yeah. God, I didn't realize you did that. That's. That's wild.

[Ronnie]

Ridiculous.

[Ben]

Speaking of. Speaking of Teddy's. Teddy. Teddy's time on Beverly Hills, we have news from the world of Lisa Rinna. Lisa Rinna, who is really trying to do the whole fashion thing right now. So Rinna blames the real housewives of Beverly hills viewers for her exit after feeling like they turned on her. We don't turn on people for Just for funsies. Well, I guess sometimes we do that, but, like, we turn on people for good reason. So she told. She was saying in deadline that she was a fan favorite when she joined the show, but by the end of her run, Rinna felt like the viewers were not supportive of her anymore. Yeah, because you were, like, co signing these awful people and you were trying so hard to be. Erica Reno stopped being herself. Rinna stopped being the Rinna that we fell in love with, or at least That I fell in love with Rinna was like, I'm gonna be just like Erica. So she tried doing Erica's cold ice cream, mean girl fashionista thing, but, like, it barely works for Erica. And so now it, like, definitely did not work for Rinna. And she just came off as kind of, like, nasty and unpleasant. And then she's shocked that if you act nasty and unpleasant and say, fuck him. I don't care about them, that people would be like, fine, we don't care about you.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Let me make it simple for you, Rinna. You were an asshole, okay? You're an asshole, and people turned on you and called you an asshole. If you don't want to be called an asshole, don't be an asshole, okay? And this is a perfect example of her being an asshole. She's like, I will never talk about housewives again. I won't do it. I'm beyond that now. I'm a fashion woman now. I'm in fashion Corso. But she immediately needs to try selling her podcast to people, because who really wants to hear about her talking about her, like, afro pubic hair with her husband? Not me. I don't. Nobody wants to hear that. So now she's having to dredge all this stuff back up and go on every podcast in the world and act like a victim. Girl, you're not a victim. You did it to you, okay? You are the villain in your own life now. Please stay away.

[Ben]

She said everybody got real comfortable behind their computers saying anything, and the fans were the ones that me off that show. He wasn't Bravo. It wasn't the girls. He was the fan base. They villainized me in a way that I just didn't want to live like that anymore. And that is the truth.

[Ronnie]

Let me tell you. Oh, no, go ahead. So. I'm sorry.

[Ben]

Well. Well, I'm gonna be like, I thought.

[Ronnie]

That was a period.

[Ben]

Well, first of all, you. You've been in this business a long time, and. And, like, you've never let the fans run you off of anything. And second of all, I don't know. I had a great second point. Point. But I'm tired. I flew on a plane this morning.

[Ronnie]

I'm so sorry.

[Ben]

No, no, I had a note. It was the. She's. She's being silly. And you know what? It wasn't you. It was your behavior. I was a big Rinna fan. I love Rinna. You go back to the Rinna seasons, her first season, when people were angry at her for calling out Kim Richards, saying was out of place. And you will hear me on this podcast defending Rinna. I've always loved it.

[Ronnie]

I actually.

[Ben]

Guess what.

[Ronnie]

What?

[Ben]

Here's the crazy part. I still love Rinna. I think Rena is great, but she just was an. And she needed. She. And. And like she needed to have a timeout. And that's okay. But like, you also have to understand, like, you just were. You. You kind of abandoned who you were. And. And we didn't like it. So that's that.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. You're a dick. So not you, Ben. Lisa. Rin.

[Ben]

I'm a dick?

[Ronnie]

Lisa. Rena, you're a dick. All the truth comes out. And now for a headline that I never saw coming. I did not ever think in a million years this was going to happen. And I've been really upset about it all week. No mortgage Mayhem. Real Housewives of New Jersey star Teresa Giudice's husband Louis Ruelis begs lender for more time to pay back a million dollar loan and ask for $250,000 more. Say it ain't so. No, they haven't been. They bought a mansion. 3.5 million in Montville. Oh my God. Scrolling past the Louis purple faced pictures. Are you on the money? I forgot how purple he is. Geez.

[Ben]

He gets more and more purple. Yeah, he is. He is a purple, purple person. Yeah, he. Yeah, they owe a lot of money.

[Ronnie]

So he. The US Son previously reported Louis or Luis before he met Teresa was the sole owner of the LLC used to buy the house. Took out a one million dollar loan on March 25, 2024. The US son can now exclusively reveal Luis is requested. Louis is requesting an extension on the loan and for $250,000 more the million dollar loan. Blah blah blah. He's his script screwed. The final. It's due March 25, so he's kind of screwed. And doesn't Teresa owe taxes too? What's happening with Teresa's life?

[Ben]

They. They're a disaster. These two people are a disaster. And this is the most predictable outcome that could have ever happened for these two. The fact that he. Look, he. He works in real estate, does he not? And yet he doesn't understand how to set up his finances to pay his own bills. Come on now. This guy is a crook. He always has been. And he's. I guarantee he's going to try to auction off Nono's pajamas to try to get some money to. To fund this and it's not going to work.

[Ronnie]

There's another article in Yahoo with G because Gia's gonna have A show on Brava. Guys, don't be mad at me, but I'm not gonna be a lawyer anymore. I'm gonna be an influencer. Okay? So whoever's listening to that, you know, that's.

[Ben]

You know, actually, I have to say, you know what, Gia? I think it's. It's great that you're following your dream of being an influencer instead of an immigration lawyer, because thankfully, no immigrants really need lawyers right now. So you're doing great work, and I hope you can really, you know, I. I hope you enjoy shilling that lipstick tonight.

[Ronnie]

I decided I was needed more in the Amazon, you know, stretchy pants category. So that's what I'm going to be doing from now on, guys. So she was. She's out there trying to do damage control, but it's Gia, like, so it doesn't really work. She's just like, guys, it's all overblown about my mom. She's doing fine. Meanwhile, documents allegedly detailed that Teresa owes $303,889.20, while Ruel is owed $2.6 million. I like him. They round up. But her, she's like, plus 20 cents. And don't you forget it.

[Ben]

That 20 cents is gonna be the thing that 20 cents short. I'm just. I'm sorry. I'm still laughing at Gia. Gia doing the most predictable thing, which is not going to law school, not. Not finishing law school, because she probably thought all immigration law cases were going to be, like, things, like, with her dad, like, just a guy. Just some guy in prison who's got a family who does, you know, who does random kung, who gets deported to Italy, and she's gonna fight for all those men getting deported to Italy. And then she finds out that actually it's much, much, much harder and much more serious than the jojudice case.

[Ronnie]

I just wanted to be a lawyer in the first place so that my dad could get back home and Melania could shave his back, right? Because he doesn't get it shaved right any other place. So he learned about waxing. So I dropped out. I don't need to do it no more. Bethany Frankel, who rose to fame as an original, blah, blah, blah, said, oh, my God, Teresa. Saying ain't so. I can't believe you ended up with another guy with money problems.

[Ben]

For Bethany Frankel, for someone who wanted to take down reality TV and wanted to have a reality reckoning, she's. She seems to watch a lot of it. She seems to be really. Have her really be occupied with the headlines and the gossip happening in the world of reality tv, so.

[Ronnie]

Well, I think she dropped that whole. That whole.

[Ben]

I think it went from reality reckoning to reality beckoning, because she is.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, so she. I think she dropped that whole thing. Now she's back in it. No. No Bravo fan ever leaves. You know, we can say, I'm sick of this. That's always cracked me up in Bravo threads because every season of every show, there's people like, I am done with this show. Currently, it's Garcelle. Like, I will never watch this show again without Garcelle. How I am leaving. And then you see their ass next season being like, send such a. You never leave. You're stuck here forever. Okay? You are Bravo fans. We never die.

[Ben]

Yeah, well, I. My brain just farted.

[Ronnie]

Not as much as Gia's. Gia's had a lot of quotes this week, so she was like, thanks a lot, Bethany Frankel, as a mother, a mother with daughters, you say that about someone. Well, I hope the tick tock check is worth it that you literally are.

[Ben]

Giving up your law career to get a tik tok check. What? Why are you shading someone for that? This is why you're not going to make a good lawyer. You make a terrible case.

[Ronnie]

Or Bethany making a case against people choosing bad men. You know what I mean? But, hey, listen, if I could only judge things I was qualified to judge, I wouldn't have a job. So yay for judging things we don't understand.

[Ben]

You know, speaking of Bethany Frankel, I would love just to check in on one of Bethany's former colleagues, Rachel Levis, because I see that there's a headline you put in here that says Vanderpump rules alum Rachel Levis is now a professional sound healer, which makes sense because she does sort of sound like some piece of, like, earthenware with a mallet going around it in circles. So I guess so much. I guess yet another Bravo star decides to drop their noble plans in this case of working with special needs children. Special needs kids. She's like, I was going to work for special needs kids.

[Ronnie]

I'm going to fix autism with a sound bath. D.

[Ben]

I mean, literally, finally we get to hear the sounds inside Raquel's head. D.

[Ronnie]

So, and what is it with James's girlfriends always needing to go into, like, some from flaky space? You know, like, she's doing sound baths. Ali is an astrology reader or whatever. By the way, I heard. I heard that she's going to do a podcast for her astrology stuff, which will be cool because, you know, I'll listen to it. I'll call it flaky, but then my ass will be there listening every episode.

[Ben]

What door am I in? What door am I? What door is my son in? Is my son at the door? Can my. Can my son and my moon get doordash?

[Ronnie]

Okay, so let's see, what else do we have here? More Erika Jane stuff.

[Ben]

Okay, I'm gonna say something. I'm gonna say something right now. So I was on the plane and I went onto Facebook, and first of all, the Facebook algorithm is okay, I should leave Facebook just for doing this for me. They were like, suggested follow Kim Zolciak. And I was like, how dare you? But of course I looked and Kim Zolciak has a photo with her two boys who I thought were. But they're just twin, like, because they're 12 and 13. And we saw these. These kids were born. I feel like it was just like five years ago, but they are now 12 and 13. They look like they are 24. They are both 61, and they have the awful teenage hair already. And they are really into football and they'll probably become football players. But I am. I am shooketh by the size of her children. And I texted Ronnie, those are gigantic children.

[Ronnie]

Those are Texas sized children. It's like when I come to Texas and everybody's like 7ft tall suddenly and like, gigantic. What the hell?

[Ben]

Yeah, this was like this. You know what? The Monsanto stuff has to stop because these children are. They're too tall to be too tall. So, yeah, I'm just in, like, reflecting, like, I cannot believe these kids are already this old. It's wild. And. And at the same time, Ron and I both texted and we both were like, yes, they look exactly. These kids are exactly how we expected them to be. Like, no one's surprised, and yet it is shocking all at the same time. Is. Yeah, I don't. I just.

[Ronnie]

We haven't heard of any gay bashings or anything like that or, you know. Yes, good. Like, they haven't joined the proud boys or whatever. I don't think so. I mean, that's good. They're. So far, they're doing better than I thought. Of course they have that broccoli here, which I can't.

[Ben]

Yeah. And like the worst five.

[Ronnie]

Five guys with that today. And I was like, you would be so handsome if you just dropped the broccoli here. Error.

[Ben]

Just drop the brock. You know, but they. Yeah, I just had to reflect on the fact that her kids are huge now, and it's. It's really. It's unsettling to me. Also, this is just nice news, I guess, but I think that Ronie won a Glad Media Award, so that was nice. Congratulations.

[Ronnie]

We've fallen that far. Gaze. Really? Come on, man. The. Even the gays are supporting that. No, because there's gay people in it. I get it. So we're going to give them an award. That show sucks. How about we have an award for show that deserves their gay people to be on a better show? Okay.

[Ben]

Well, you know, RuPaul's Drag Race and Roni both won, so, you know, I guess congrats. And I'm also, like, sad. Like, like, couldn't we have been more entertaining if we were going to be up for a Glad Media Award? I mean, hello. Can we have more fun over there?

[Ronnie]

Remember when gay being gay used to be fun? Now we're celebrating the new Real Housewives of New York. What, are we even sucking penises anymore? I mean, Jesus Christ.

[Ben]

Aaron, by the way, had her baby, so mazel tov to Aaron. So cackling hag. Cackling baby. So she had a baby. So that was another piece of news. But again, there's nothing really to talk about there, except these things are things that happened.

[Ronnie]

Lisa Barlo polluting the world. Okay, yeah, here's another one. Lisa Varlo is t. Lisa Barlo is taking vocal lessons, you guys. It's huge. And thankfully, it was an exclusive from Distractify. Okay.

[Ben]

Distractify is also the thing you have to do when you hear Lisa Barlo sing. I need to Distractify myself away from this noise right now.

[Ronnie]

Distract. I feel like I'm gonna die. So. Lisa Barlow eyeing a music career in an exclusive interview with Distractify to promote her partnership with Clorox. This is. This is what we're doing now. This is what we're doing now. I'm here to promote Clorox, but while I'm here, I want to talk about my music career. We're going to need that for our ears, girl.

[Ben]

This is getting very much into Drew Sedora territory. You know, like, so I had one of the people at Clorox produce my new album, and they're also giving me vocal lessons.

[Ronnie]

Just. This is only. This is a sentence you can only read in a Real Housewives article. To promote her partnership with Clorox, Lisa reveals she's taking voice lessons and will be ready to take the stage soon. I'll tell you who's going to take the stage. Me. I'm going to find out what stage you're going to be on, and I'm going to go there and I'm going to dismantle it to save the drum of the people that are about to be subjected to that. Please stop. Stop vocal terrorism. And I say that as a yeller who's yelling in people's ears right now.

[Ben]

Orlando in the comments says, do we need this right now? And the answer is yes. Have you seen the headlines? I will take Lisa Barlow singing on behalf of Clorox any day over any headline I have to read in the real world. Thank you very much. And also, thanks for joining us tonight.

[Ronnie]

So housewives love competing on the Traders. Is she doing that? Is she gonna. Is she interested in doing that? Well, I would love to bring every Clorox disinfecting wipes with me because I heard accommodations are a little rough. So, yeah, you know, I would consider it with Clorox, and if I was asked, I think it would be an honor, you know, and it's just amazing. I live on Diet Coke, Peanut MS, and KitKats.

[Ben]

So I'll bring this with me. This is Lisa Barlow at the Traders Roundtable. Okay. This is actually, like, really upsetting me right now because for you to say that I'm, like, a traitor and, like, I am, like, literally, like, the most honest person you've ever met in your life. And, like, it's, like, really, really upsetting to be like. Like, I'm just like. Like, why would you even say those things? Like, excuse me. You're the one who said that before me. It's just, like, a lot right now.

[Ronnie]

Her commercial acting is so funny. Oh, my God. Thank God. Today I have a Kit Kat bar in a frost day. It is so delicious. It is the only thing I am living for. Did we get it?

[Ben]

Did we got it?

[Ronnie]

Are we done? Like, we're still rolling, Lisa. This is a Bravo commercial. We're not doing another take.

[Ben]

Is anyone else on that cast doing commercials? Because she seems to have, like, all. Like, she had one commercial. What was the commercial? She's, like, in the woods and she's making two guys. It's like famous people, like, from Bravo, right? They're doing something and she's like, hey, guys, can you cut down that tree for me? I don't know.

[Ronnie]

It's something like that, isn't it? Weston, Jesse from Summer House that she's in a.

[Ben]

Yes, that's what it is. That's who it is. Famous guys, quote, unquote, weird Bravo commercials.

[Ronnie]

Happening Where Dorinda's driving in like a. What is she driving in that commercial with the chick from Sold on SLC where she's like, well, I'd love to look at the house in Salt Lake City, but I'd really love this. The car.

[Ben]

God, that gamble on Jen. Yeah. Really did not pay off for that commercial, which is a shame.

[Ronnie]

More staying power than that.

[Ben]

But we have a question. Ben and Ronnie, will y'all sign my Linda Ron, that tape and Les albums when I meet you in Dallas? I would die happy.

[Ronnie]

Oh, hell yeah. You gonna get me not to sign, Try and stop me from signing a Linda. Linda Ron star then?

[Ben]

Well, you think he. You think he means cassette? He actually has some specific Linda Ronat branded masking tape that he's just going to pull out a strip and make.

[Ronnie]

Okay. Andy Cohen on offering a Page Dorbo and Lindsay Hubard a spot on the Real Housewives of New York cast. Basically, he didn't. He just. Not on the show. I brought it up at a meeting one time, and so now everyone's like, oh, my God, Lindsay and Page are gonna be on New York.

[Ben]

Yeah, they're never gonna do that. It's just. It's. It's the. I just don't think you can cross those paths in that way. It's just. It's too weird. It's too much of a youth oriented. You can't go from the youth. The youth oriented shows to the third Housewives, even though they may be appropriate ages, you know, or like, Lindsay is definitely age appropriate for Real Housewives, which is crazy. But it's just. It doesn't. It's not gonna work. We need. People are in their lanes and we can't. They just can't hop the lanes. It doesn't work for us. Doesn't work. Pedro's been able to hop around, but that's because she's. She went away from Real Housewives, then did Traders, and then Traders allowed her to come back to marriage medicine, but marriage medicine has always been kind of like an alternate Real Housewives. And then now she's come back to Atlanta. So it all. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

No.

[Ben]

My answer is no. And it makes sense. Why not?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, but they need to do something with that show. I don't know if this is it. I wouldn't mind if they were on that show. I mean, they need something, but I would love to.

[Ben]

They need to do something.

[Ronnie]

Those girls.

[Ben]

I would like to see anyone. I want to see anyone go against those girls. It's like, we need to give Jessel some support because she needs to be the like she. Meaning, like, she. She is, like, the only funny, truly funny one on that show. And so she needs to be in there, like, front and center. We need to, like, decent. We need to take Aaron out of the center of the show. Like, she's way too central to the show and not entertaining enough. And now that she has a baby, she's gonna be like, my life is just like vomit in my hair there and like, diarrhea because the baby, it's like, wow. Congratulations for that insight. You know, she and Ave. Oh, sorry, go ahead. Yeah, no, she and Abe have their new podcast called Come together. Get it. Like, oh, no, I don't want to.

[Ronnie]

I will never come again. My. My follow up podcast to that is I will never come again. Gross. But yeah, those two. What was I gonna say about. Oh. Aaron's next storyline is gonna be like, tariffs. I mean, like, if you're going to put tariffs on things, don't do it on Mezcal. I'm trying to bring it to America. I'm trying to help my country. I can't believe I live in a world where I have to see Aaron on CNN talking about tariffs. Like, just stop. This world is crazy enough. Get Aaron off my news, please.

[Ben]

Yeah. Thomas in the comments says, ben, don't be so rigid. It's never been tried. I agree. I'm down for experimentation, but, like, New York is really stinking right now, and I don't want to spoil premium stars on Roni. I would rather them find new people. Just do, do. Do your job. Bravo. And find interesting people. You don't have to take another franchise.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. The idea that's been floating around the Internet is just do a valley in. In New York. You know, just take all the people, the older people from Summer House and stuff like that, and put them on a new show. Stone. Call it. You know, someone online here is saying the district in the comments are saying, call it the district or something. Yeah, I agree.

[Ben]

The island. And it all takes place in Staten Island.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And Lindsay got really annoyed when the guys were suggesting, like, why would Lindsay come back? I mean, she can't come back. She's gonna have a baby next year. She got all mad. She's like, I am a pioneer of summer hounds and I will be back with my baby. Like, she got all upset. But the truth is, no one wants to see you on that show with your baby. No one wants to see it now. I would totally support you just leaving your baby every weekend at Home and then coming and getting shit faced and partying anyway, because I believe in leaving your baby. Look, make them stronger, you know, Leave it on a doorstep somewhere. Show it how's the show, how the other half lives. So I would support that, but she'll need something to do, so I wouldn't mind if she was on New York, but you know what? We don't.

[Ben]

I think actually, if anything, if they wind up, like, if they wind up cutting some people out of Jersey. I mean, I don't. Marco Joseph's lives in Jersey. But, like, she would. Margaret Joseph's would actually, I think, cut it up pretty well with. With Roni. The problem is that, like, there is an age gap. And I don't know if they would be able to, like, I don't know. I don't know if the younger women would be able to handle Marco Joseph's. They'd like, can you. Can you believe it? Can you believe what she said to Mark? I'm like, hey, girlfriends, what's going on over here in Manhattan? What we talking about? Guys have sex. You put anything in his ponum. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, okay, you want. You want to order something? You want to order Diet Coke or something? I was talking to Serena in 10 fly and she says you guys are having a lot of sex. Tell me anything about. You want some Snickers? Snickers creamer. I'll get it for you.

[Ronnie]

So for this last section, I just want to talk a little bit about Atlanta because we just did a recap, so we just talked about it a lot. But I want to hear what you guys have to think or what you guys think about Atlanta. Well, first of all, great news for a terrible person. Star Kenya Morris ex Mark Daly hit with eviction lawsuit over $5,000 a month. Brooklyn home. Bye. Goodbye, sir. You deserve nothing less. Nothing less. I hope that's the least of your worries. You okay? But beyond that, this was the week that started the Brit vs Kenya fight on Real Housewives of Atlanta. For those of you who haven't seen it yet, Brit is just trying to start with Kenya so she can make a name for herself. She's pretty trashy in my opinion, Brett. She's a tryhard hard. She got a terrible nose job. So she literally talks like this because she can't breathe out of her nose and almost chokes on a fly today in this week's episode, who's trying to retaliate against her blocked canals. So anyway, she's trying to start with Kenya. It's not really working. Kenya's not giving. She's not paying her any dust. So this lady just goes off the handle and says, well, I've got. I brought my pistol. So what do you think? What do you think of this? People are pretty pissed off on the Internet because they feel like Kenya got fired for next week's revenge porn episode, which we still haven't seen, obviously. But why wouldn't they punish Brit over basically threatening someone with a firearm? Is that what we really need on Atlanta? Ben, give us your thoughts.

[Ben]

Yeah, Yeah, I think. Well, first of all, I would say I'm not gonna, like, weigh in yet about whether Kenya should have been demoted or fired until we see next week. Because, let me really see, like, how bad was it? Because it could be bad. It could be really bad. In terms of Brit with the gun thing, I think, like, you know, was it exactly, like, technically threatening violence? You could make an argument like, she was just posturing, but I think it was gross. And I think it's also, like. I think it's actually beneath Bravo's brand. Like, Bravo doesn't, like. Bravo is trying to show, you know, wealthy, like, upper class, or like, nouveau rich as attempting to be upper class women. And so when you have someone talking about, like, I've got a pistol at home, technically, Marlo. Marlo would talk about her guns, too. But I just think it's. I think that Brit.

[Ronnie]

Well, she was. She has a pistol with her. I think she says, I've got my pistol.

[Ben]

Oh, I thought she meant she has them in general, not like, she has them here.

[Ronnie]

Maybe, maybe, maybe. I heard it.

[Ben]

Either way, I think. Either way, I think we all agree, like, Brit was so thirsty for a fight, so thirsty for a moment, we all recognize it. Can you recognize it? Kenya calls her out for it. And, you know, you guys will hear.

[Ronnie]

We.

[Ben]

We just recorded our recap before this. It.

[Ronnie]

That's.

[Ben]

I don't. I don't know if it's already up or if it's coming up soon. It just went up. Great. We had a lot of fun with it. And. But, like, the Brit is, like, a whole bunch of different things at once. On the one hand, she's trying to make a splash on reality tv, which she's doing in the wrong way. So she's trying desperately to have a fight, and she's going after the. She's going after the big dogs, as Heather Gay would say. So she's trying it just as really thirsty and really pathetic and not in a funny way, like Brittany Bateman. And then you also have that. She's, like, a very insecure person. And so, like, she's like, why aren't you hugging me? Why aren't you hiding me? I'm just a fat, why are you hugging me? Which is, like, so sad and so pathetic that you have to, like, be caught on camera saying such things. Like, really? Like, have some. Have some more self confidence. And then third, she's also easily triggered. I mean, you see Kenya, all she says is, queens don't. Queens don't hang out or talk with peasants. And she's like, oh, I'm a peasant. I'm a peasant. And then for the next, like, 10 minutes of the show, she's like, she called me a peasant. She called me a peasant. Like, I know you're eager to. To start a fight, but you also have to have thicker skin. And I think that she just totally failed her first big test. And I think we're all on Kenya's side right now, and we're gonna see what happens next week, because we may all be like, okay, maybe even being on Kenya's side, that was too far. But for right now, it's making me upset that Kenya's not gonna be on the rest of the season.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I. You know, I actually am team Kenya on this. I'm not off often. Team Kenya. But the thing that pisses me off, and I see it a lot in the comments here, is that Kenya just doesn't ever. She just always goes too far. You know what I mean? Like, what she does next week is just like, why'd you do that? You let this girl win. You let this trash win. This girl sucks. I mean, look, this girl was trying really hard. She was doing, like, a monologue about how she's gonna kick Kenny's ass, going on and on and on. And she's annoying. I mean, her worst crime, beyond the gun and all that, because that stuff was all trash. But her worst crime is just being bad at this. You're not entertaining. You're not fun. You're not funny. You're not cute like you. And I don't mean physically. I just mean she's just not good. She's bad at it. You're bad. You're badly casted. You're just bad. So that's her worst crime. But then Kenya couldn't just let this girl fail on her own. She had to go to the. This whatever, revenge porn. I don't even know if it is revenge porn, because it's a revenge porn. When you have a picture of somebody that you. We don't really even having sex. I don't even know what the real.

[Ben]

Death in my mind, I'm not even sure. I'm not even like, there's been a lot of talk about what happened, but we don't really know. We won't really know what happened at this party until next week. Well, they're saying revenge porn because Kenya. They're saying that Kenya brought out photos of Brit, I guess, blowing someone or something like that, and it was already on the Internet. But I guess the idea that she presented photos of Brit like, you know, in a sexual act against her consent. Right. Is therefore qualifies as revenge porn to, you know, I don't know what the.

[Ronnie]

Actual hair care party. I mean, yeah.

[Ben]

I. I don't know what the legal. The true legal limits and, you know, what the rules are truly for that. But I think that's how that got entered into the mix in the conversation. But we'll just have to see what I mean. It is. It is a bummer, though. It is a bummer, though, that, like, clearly Kenya crossed a line because Bravo lets a lot of stuff slide, to be honest. And if even Bravo wasn't going to let the slide, then she really. She really messed up. And that. That bums me out because also, it's like you said, many the recap. It's a bummer to think that Brit is the one who gets to take out Kenya. You know, that's. That's.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. And that's the. That's the biggest problem. Like, I'm sitting here saying, you're bad at this. You're bad at this to Brit. But Kenya, you should be better than this. Like, you've been in it long enough to know you cannot do that and get away with it. So I'm. I'm on Kenya's side this week, but I'm ultimately disappointed that she. She sucks because she's actually fun to watch this season. I mean, I'm.

[Ben]

She's doing. She's great.

[Ronnie]

I would love to hear from people back. I think it's, like, perfect. The perfect casting of having the old cast with the new cast is like, yeah, blend. And it's going to suck to not have her there.

[Ben]

So I would love to hear from people when we start going, when we go to bring people up or just even in the comments. I would love to hear what you guys are thinking about the new Atlanta season, because I haven't really checked in to see how where people are. Are standing on it. I am really really digging the new season but sometimes I get like, I whip myself into a gay frenzy where I'm like iconic mother and then I look at everyone's like it's boring. So I, I'm, it's not going to change my opinion because you know we all have our own opinions but I would love to hear what you all think about it.

[Ronnie]

So yeah, and for the next 10 minutes or so we will be talking to you guys on camera. The link is in the comments. For those of you listening on audio, thank you so much for being here. We'll be here in another couple of weeks at 5:30 on Monday Pacific time. We'll talk to you next time. For those of you who want to stay and talk on camera, stay, stick around for everybody else we'll talk to you next time.

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