#2790 Summer House 0908 Part Two: Soft Launch

Summary

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Episode #2790: Summer House 0908 Part Two: Soft Launch
Release Date: April 3, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Platform: Wondery

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Introduction: Diving Back In

In episode #2790 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam continue their two-part deep dive into the latest happenings of Bravo's Summer House. Picking up where part one left off, Ben kicks off the episode by urging listeners to stay subscribed to catch all future recaps. The focus quickly shifts to unraveling the intricate web of relationships and drama unfolding within the house.

Relationship Dynamics and Drama

Carl Radke's New Venture and Personal Life

Carl Radke emerges as a central figure in this episode, juggling his professional aspirations with personal entanglements. He announces his plans to launch a non-alcoholic beverage brand, aiming for a "soft launch" in January 2025. Ben highlights Carl's commitment, noting,

"[00:58] Ben Mandelker: So, get excited in the cold winter."

Despite his business endeavors, Carl's personal life takes center stage. His interactions with Lil and Sierra spark debates among the housemates about exclusivity and commitment. Ben captures Carl's somewhat convoluted stance:

"[03:14] Ben Mandelker: Yeah. But like, she made it clear the day that we met that she hooks up with people exclusively."

The Toe-Sucking Incident

A particularly controversial moment is dissected in great detail—the infamous toe-sucking incident involving Jesse Solomon and Sierra. The hosts discuss the appropriateness and implications of such behavior within the house. Ronnie doesn't hold back his criticism:

"[13:35] Ronnie Karam: I know. Actually, when Emeril was saying, yeah, you know, Bailey, he just, like, walked in while we were having a threesome..."

Ben humorously but critically describes Jesse's reaction:

"[14:53] Ben Mandelker: ...when the term 'crestfallen' is based off of him because it looks like a moon literally fell onto his chin."

The hosts debate whether Jesse's actions were merely playful or indicative of deeper issues, ultimately portraying him as a "slime ball":

"[14:53] Ben Mandelker: ...this guy's so slimy. He's just such a slime ball. Gross."

Gabby and Lindsay's Confrontation

Gabby Prescod and Lindsay Hubbard take center stage as they confront Carl about his dishonesty and flirtations. Gabby points out the inconsistencies in Carl's timeline regarding his interactions with Lil and the ensuing drama:

"[23:56] Gabby Prescod: This is, like, Gabby's best episode of the year so far."

Lindsay doesn't mince words, expressing her frustration and disbelief at Carl's actions:

"[27:24] Lindsay Hubbard: You want to sit there to the..."

The tension escalates as Gabby emphasizes the need for authenticity and accountability:

"[37:13] Ben Mandelker: ...to dare to hate, you know."

Carl Radke's Soft Launch Strategy

Carl's attempt to establish his non-alcoholic beverage stand through pop-up events across the city sparks mixed reactions. While some appreciate his entrepreneurial spirit, others question his timing and sincerity, especially in light of his ongoing personal drama.

"[10:00] Ben Mandelker: ...no Seven Elevens have a place to sit and enjoy anything."

Carl's efforts to create a welcoming environment for diverse patrons, including pregnant women, are both praised and scrutinized by the hosts and housemates:

"[25:00] Carl Radke: You're not actually doing anything."

Reunion Reactions and Host Insights

The episode features a flashback to the reunion where Andy Rebennack questions Carl about his breakup with Lindsay, revealing Carl's struggle to maintain his narrative of being "damaged."

"[30:24] Gabby Prescod: And he's like, oh. No."

Ben and Ronnie provide sharp commentary on Carl's attempts to reconcile his professional and personal lives, highlighting the challenges of maintaining genuine relationships amidst reality TV pressures.

Hosts' Commentary and Notable Quotes

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie infuse their signature humor and critical insights, often referencing specific timestamps for emphasis. Noteworthy quotes include:

• Ben Mandelker on Carl's Intentions:

  "[21:19] Ben Mandelker: ...he's already ready playing the field. Right."

• Ronnie Karam's Take on Relationship Authenticity:

  "[37:26] Ronnie Karam: So they play the rest of the game and stuff, and they win. Paige's team wins. And she's like, I am the backbone of this entire team..."

• Gabby Prescod's Sarcastic Remarks:

  "[25:42] Lindsay Hubbard: And I appreciate that he had a."

These moments underscore the hosts' engagement with the content, blending humor with sharp critique.

Conclusion: Wrapping Up the Soft Launch

As the episode draws to a close, Ben and Ronnie reflect on the tumultuous events of the "soft launch" phase within Summer House. They tease the upcoming Chicago episode, promising more drama and insightful commentary.

"[26:57] Sierra Jackson: Haven't had cold cuts in nine months. Give me something now, baby."

Ben concludes with his signature sign-off, expressing anticipation for the next episode and thanking listeners for their support.

"[42:25] Ben Mandelker: ...tell us about yourself by filling out a short [e-mail] survey."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Ben Mandelker:
  "[02:14] Ben Mandelker: So he's like, I mean, listen, we both know that we're not pursuing other people."

• Ronnie Karam:
  "[03:37] Ronnie Karam: And Gabby calls it. She's like, okay, so you're saying that you're gonna make her your girlfriend so you can fuck her."

• Gabby Prescod:
  "[09:35] Gabby Prescod: Listen, people who have railed against brick, brick and mortar even..."

These quotes exemplify the hosts' candid and unfiltered take on the unfolding drama within Summer House.

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Final Thoughts:
Episode #2790 of Watch What Crappens offers an incisive and entertaining recap of Summer House's second part, "Soft Launch." Hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam adeptly navigate the complexities of relationships, business ventures, and personal conflicts, providing listeners with a comprehensive and humorous breakdown of the latest episodes. Whether you're a die-hard fan or new to the show, this recap delivers valuable insights and engaging commentary.

Transcript

[Ben Mandelker]

Wondry plus subscribers can listen to Watch what Crappens ad free right now. Join Wondry plus in the Wondry app or on Apple podcasts. Watch what Crappins. Watch what Crappins. Guess what happens when there's so much that happens over little feature. Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hi everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Sierra's like, the pregnant lady is probably going to be Gabby. And Gabby's like, don't put that on me. Especially in Jersey.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't say the P word in the.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

New in the NJ state.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now Carl, and Carl's talking to.

[Carl Radke]

Lil and he's like so hot. I'm sweating right now. I gotta say hello. So I gotta cool off.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then people were drinking and enjoying and everything and people are eating stuff and. And then Lil is talking to Sierra saying they're just. It's just like small talk around the party. So finally Carl is like, you know what?

[Carl Radke]

So the plan is to have a space ready for January of 2025. But in the meantime our sprinter van is going to be doing pop ups all around the city.

[Ben Mandelker]

So get excited in the cold winter.

[Carl Radke]

To stand outside on the sidewalk and drink some non alcoholic drinks.

[Gabby Prescod]

Let me tell you, the most popular time for people to want spreads. January. Huge time. Huge, huge time.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Jesse, Gabby and Paige all sit down and talk and Jesse's being is.

[Gabby Prescod]

Like, hey guys, you're so gorgeous.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they get right into it and Paige is like, so did you see Lexi this week? And he's like, no Paige.

[Ben Mandelker]

No Paige.

[Ronnie Karam]

And she's like, well, did you or didn't you.

[Gabby Prescod]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Did you miss her? I missed her.

[Gabby Prescod]

I missed her.

[Ronnie Karam]

Did you go on a cute little date? We went on our second or third date. Did you tell her you suck to toe? Let's just get to it. I'm bored with you. You have not. Your charm does not work on me.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

I'm just staring at the dent in your chest.

[Ben Mandelker]

So he's like, I mean, listen, we both know that we're not pursuing other people.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Okay. All right, that's great. So like, do you, do you want that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, yeah, I want to give it a try. Like I feel like I'm ready for it.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Wow, that was amazing. How little conviction you have in that. That was like that was like the O.J. simpson trial of answers. There was zero conviction.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Gabby's like, so you had to talk about being exclusive. You really want that? You.

[Gabby Prescod]

And he's like, I mean, yeah, like, listen, there's no guy on the planet who's going to be like, wow, can't wait to have sex with one woman for the rest of my life.

[Ronnie Karam]

Right. I mean, come on. Like, no guy is going to think that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Gabby's like, I think that's exactly what it's supposed to be. Like, that's the whole point.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. I think there's like maybe hundreds of guys like that, maybe even millions.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. But like, she made it clear the day that we met that she hooks up with people exclusively. And I want to respect that. And also, I made us exclusive so I can finally hook up with her. So, you know, if all the right reasons. And she makes me, like, not want to hook up with other people. Yeah, yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Gabby calls it. She's like, okay, so you're saying that you're gonna make her your girlfriend so you can fuck her.

[Gabby Prescod]

And he's like, whoa.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Paige goes, so you had sex? And goes, oh, my God, you did. I can tell he did. I can tell. And he's like, I don't want to kiss until guys. Unless it's emerald, I'll do that. But basically I don't want to. And I think this is her with the whole, like, don't put out until you're married to a guy. Like, that's like a very old fashioned thing. But like, don't put out until you've got commitment from a gu. That is the dangerous part of it is that they're going to be on their best behavior until they get it.

[Gabby Prescod]

And then they'll switch.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, part of me is like, just fuck someone. I mean, not necessarily immediately, but soon. You got to get as big of a deal so you can see their real personality after they get what they want, you know?

[Gabby Prescod]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Do like, like three dates or something. Just because if you do it on the first date, it's not a slutty thing. It's just more like then you just won't hear from them again, probably. And so this way you can. Because. Because guys are awful. And so this way at least you can get like two meals out of it and then maybe learn about them.

[Ronnie Karam]

Since when is dating like that? You get free meals out of God?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I think in straight dating you're supposed to like the guys for the meal. Yeah, I date more, you know, gender roles Gender roles. They're all, you know, all those straight.

[Carl Radke]

People are up with their gender roles.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's why they all go nuts. You know, guys are like, I'm not.

[Sierra Jackson]

I'm not supporting my family. I'm not supporting my wife.

[Ben Mandelker]

But gay guys can just be like.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Are you going to Sondheim tonight?

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, so it's great.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah, we can be like, oh, my.

[Ronnie Karam]

God, I'm not supporting a family or a wife. Yes.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Queen.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, I know. Why do you think. Why do you think all these. All these straight relationships go so berserk? Because it's always like a guy who's like, I'm 42 and I haven't gotten to where I want to be to support, because I've got to be a guy. I got to be a man. Supports my. My wife and my kids and everything. And then the wife has got to be like, I want to have my kids. You know, so they all have their. They just have a disaster. But, like, if you're gay, you just go to brunch. If you're gay, just go to brunch and deal with your self loathing.

[Carl Radke]

That's. That's it.

[Ronnie Karam]

No. You know, so then Paige is like, wow, look at that random guy there sitting there. You don't want to kiss and tell in front of him, that's for sure.

[Gabby Prescod]

Jesse's like, yeah, I can't say anything.

[Ronnie Karam]

In front of that guy.

[Gabby Prescod]

Like, I mean, you look trustworthy, but we don't really know you yet.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right.

[Ronnie Karam]

So he's uncomfortable. And he does not like that they're questioning him on camera either. Like, he's very visibly not loving this because he's not coming. And he deserves it. He deserves.

[Ben Mandelker]

And they're poking a hole. Coming and they're poking. They're poking a hole in his, like, carefully crafted.

[Gabby Prescod]

Yeah.

[Carl Radke]

Veneer.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Emeril's talking to Bailey because he knows that, like, if he tells anything to Bailey, it's going to go into the vault. Because no one talks to Bailey. He's like, I'll just tell you something. It'll just go off into nowhere. So Bailey's like, so how is it in the house?

[Ronnie Karam]

I think he's purposely telling Bailey so she'll go immediately tell Lex.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I'm just joking. Oh, I'm just joking. Because she's like. She's like, she's. Sarcasm.

[Gabby Prescod]

It was awesome.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, sorry. I cranked it up to 10 there.

[Ronnie Karam]

You were so serious. Yeah, I was like, what?

[Gabby Prescod]

What?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, the joke is that Bailey, like, no, One.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I got it now.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was like, huh.

[Ben Mandelker]

So here's what I was thinking when I came up with a joke. I was like, here's the conference. I was like, there's Bailey. Okay, so Emeril is talking, and he's like, yeah, we were in bed, and we were.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah, I had a crazy.

[Ben Mandelker]

I brought two girls back, and we were in bed, and we were all naked. And then Jesse barged in, and he's drunk, and he just, like, just ended with him getting his toes sucked, but, like, playfully, you know, And. And then, like, he didn't do anything, but, like, you know, So I gotta.

[Carl Radke]

Bring that up to him.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, I just. I should have brought it up Sunday, but my brain was dead, so I don't think Lexi's gonna like that. That's not great. Anyway, glad you got all this information.

[Carl Radke]

Enjoy and feel free to.

[Ben Mandelker]

To share it with Lexi.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then back to the other convo. Paige is like, did you or did you not have sex? Jesus Christ. You're. It's like asking Craig, did you or did you not make that banana loaf bread? Can I just get an answer? And he's like, yeah, you had sex. He's like, I knew that he didn't make that banana bread. I knew it.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

You're being so Jesse Solomon right now. It's, like, crazy how justice. Jesse Solomon, you're being. And you're not even singing yet.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, yeah, well, it can only be me.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Well, did you tell Sierra?

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, what? But, like, it just happened the night before last.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

And she's like, I was making a joke because you guys were flirting. You know, last weekend, if Lexi were here, you would have had your balls chopped off, and it would have been hilarious. 1,000%.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Like, Jesse, you were, like, acting crazy with Sierra. You were, like, seriously flirting with Sierra. And he's like, oh, we were just being friends. And so we cut to last weekend, where he's totally flirting with Sierra. You know, he's like, wow, sorry I'm touching your leg there. God damn. Sorry. You're a tim.

[Gabby Prescod]

Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, so Jesse is like, yeah. I mean, what is she saying?

[Lindsay Hubbard]

And she's like, nothing, but I have eyes, and I'm not an idiot. Although apparently I didn't have eyes when I looked at Craig the first time and said, good, I wanted to waste three years with this person.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Gabby's like, yeah, we all saw.

[Carl Radke]

We all have eyes.

[Ben Mandelker]

And everyone saw it.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Everyone in the house saw it. Yeah, and I have a brain, too. I Just want to add.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, And I have ears and I've.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Got, like, lips and eyes and.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

It's like, are we comparing body parts right now? I think we are. Okay, let's get out of this loop.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So then we get Carl's speech.

[Gabby Prescod]

Carl's like, everybody. Everybody is listening on. Is this thing on? I need a microphone. I don't know how many people here, but we're in New Jersey, so I just want to make sure you can hear me. Okay. Hey, everybody. Everybody. Thank you. Oh, God.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Hold on.

[Gabby Prescod]

I'm sweating a little bit. I'm the only one sweating here. God, it's crazy, but I just want everyone. Like, I. I started this business for many reasons. One, Lindsay was mean to my mom. Mom, that one was for you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Say. Yeah, she was mean to me.

[Paige DeSorbo]

That.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right.

[Gabby Prescod]

Number two, I don't drink anymore, so that's a huge thing. I just want life to be more soft. You know what I'm saying? So it's also, I want a drink that represents my penis when I'm with Lindsay. Okay, thanks. That was for you, mom. That was for you.

[Carl Radke]

Well, it's great to have everyone here at the friends and family. Launch us all far. We're. Whoa. We're halfway there. Living on a prayer reference to New Jersey. Jon Bon Jovi couldn't make it today, unfortunately. Too bad. Anyway, I just want to say that, like, working for an alcohol brand, Lover boy, we launched Lover boy, not alcohol. N A, as some people call it. And I had this epiphany last year and I went into one of those stores that sell Lover Boy, not elk, but they don't have anywhere you can sit and enjoy them.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, yeah, no seven elevens have a place to sit and enjoy anything.

[Gabby Prescod]

I was like, wait, where is the non alcoholic stuff in this fridge?

[Ronnie Karam]

It's called Sprite, babe.

[Carl Radke]

Wait a second. Where's the cafe area of this Walgreens?

[Gabby Prescod]

And that's why I'm launching tables. And people sit at them. They want to.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah, we. They're called soft tables, and they don't really stand up, but they're soft and they're nice. So, anyway, so Brian and I hit it off about six months ago, and we started workshopping this concept of tables and chairs in a 7 11. And that didn't work out. But either way, I'm very passionate about this space because I've seen, like, people not only like, myself in recovery and needing an option and needing alternatives, but.

[Ben Mandelker]

I've seen people that are pregnant, wild.

[Carl Radke]

Raging, who are pregnant, who Are mean, don't answer phone calls, and are, like, really cruel to people who broke up with them and their space for them. They need to have a space to be able to drink things.

[Gabby Prescod]

Listen, people who have railed against brick, brick and mortar even, they deserve a chance to sit in a 711 and drink some non elk. All right, so we go soft, everybody. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Me.

[Carl Radke]

I was just going to say people who are really nasty human beings but give really good hard and tender hugs, they deserve a place to drink and to sit while they do it.

[Gabby Prescod]

Everybody, this has been an amazing ride in the van from Manhattan, which is where we came from. So thanks, van. Everybody should get a van. Really. Thanks for coming. Okay, if anybody has a news twist on paper towels, I would buy some right now because I'm really sweating like a dog. So that would be great.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thanks. So after this, after. Well, Carl goes off to towel down his layer of sweat. Gabby and Bailey sit on lawn chair. So Bailey's gonna get to actually be in, like, a. A group combo, which is very exciting. And Jesse sits down. He's holding two drinks. And Sierra's like, jesse, are you double fisting? And I was like, enough about the foursome, okay? Can we just, like, talk about the scene?

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, well, I figured I'm mixing water. You know, I'm gonna loopy from all the benefits, and that's what's going on here.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so.

[Ronnie Karam]

But it's like, yeah, I heard about the TO So that was good for you. Wait, what? You gross.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I went into Emerald's room to.

[Carl Radke]

See who he was having a threesome with.

[Ben Mandelker]

Which, by the way, I feel like not enough time has been also spent with the idea that he just walked into a threesome. Like, I actually think that's like a. It's. It's crazy. It's also, like, it's inappropriate. Like, they're having. They're having sexy times. You don't just, like, walk in on people having sex. Although I know that it's like. Like, I guess in a porno, like, you would do that. And I guess people do it, but I just kind of think it's a. There's a little bit of a boundary issue there too, where he's just like, well, I want to see who was having sex, so I just walked in.

[Ronnie Karam]

I know. Actually, when Emeril was saying, yeah, you know, Bailey, he just, like, walked in while we were having a threesome, and I need to talk to him about that. I thought he meant, like, you can't just Walk in the room when I'm banging two chicks, bro. But then he made it sound like he was talking about Lexi not liking it. So I was like, I would actually rather a conversation of general manners. Like, you know, if, you know, I'm having sex, maybe don't walk in. Especially when there's camera crews in the house and I'm two arrows. You know, I also just.

[Gabby Prescod]

I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

I also just feel like it's more respectful to the women. Like, it's a little disrespectful to the women because they made a choice that they wanted to have a threesome with Emerald, but they didn't make it. They didn't say, and I want someone, a stranger, to walk in and sit down and watch us. Like, I actually think it's. It sounds like it'll. Everything was ultimately fine and consensual and everything, but I just think it's like. I just, like, why do you think it's, like, cool just to walk into a room where there's a threesome going on?

[Ronnie Karam]

Let them, you know, do their thing about etiquette, bro. Get it together. So he says, you know, I walked into his room to see who he was having a threesome with, and then they were like, jump in. So I was like, no, you know, no toes, as much as you're gonna get, ladies. Sorry, sorry.

[Gabby Prescod]

Just the toe.

[Ronnie Karam]

Just the toe. So Sierra's like, oh. So she said, can I put your toe in your mouth? And you said, okay. And he's like, yeah. You know, it's like everyone was drunk. It was like a casual toe suck, you know? Like, come on.

[Gabby Prescod]

Big deal.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, okay. Casual toe suck? Yeah. I mean, somebody just happened to put.

[Carl Radke]

Their mouth on my toe.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I said, like, that's as far as you can. And Bailey's like, did you think how Lexi would feel? Because. Are y'all dating now? Is it official? Official? Because, by the way, you're on speakerphone with her right now. Just.

[Ronnie Karam]

Pretty exclusive. Yeah, but can she get her toe sucked by other men? Because, you know, good. Damn. And, well, that's a no. Okay. And look at that smile. Jesse Solomon, you already up my guy. So Jesse's like. I mean, I thought Emerald was cool. Apparently not, dude. You were on camera doing it. Yeah, like, that's what cracks me up. He just thinks he's just never gonna tell her. And then by the time he's her got what he wants, and it's the reunion, it won't matter anymore because it'll already be broken up. This guy's so slimy. He's just such a slime ball. Gross.

[Ben Mandelker]

My favorite thing is that when Jesse Solomon when his smile like when, when he is like, like a bad thing dawns on him when his smile slowly like fades into like this frown because he also as big as his smile is, his frown is equally as big and whenever goes all the way down into a frown it is so funny to me because it always happens very slowly. And then he was like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Both rows are still showing too which is funny.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like when the term like the term crestfallen is based off of him because it looks like a moon literally fell onto his chin. So Jesse's like I thought yeah I.

[Carl Radke]

Already said this part.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well I feel like I had such a good weekend and I was like.

[Carl Radke]

Such a good boy. And now everything's being like you're flirting with Sierra and you're getting your so.

[Ben Mandelker]

Talked because you did both those things by the way. So that's why people are saying that. So anyway so Jesse's like the toe sucking in my mind it's just like not a thing. Like what I think is an actual big deal is people thinking up there with Ciara.

[Carl Radke]

So I gotta tell Lexi about this like right away.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, you think so he goes great chatting. Gosh, really great chatting. Sarah goes yeah, toe sucker. Good chat. So then Jesse immediately whips out his phone and text Lexi hey, I miss you, miss you. Just in case she's getting any texts from Bailey or anything else. That's his cover. So then we got Alexi.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I'm showing up to a photo shoot with Andrew the photographer and my mom and my sister.

[Sierra Jackson]

I started modeling really young which is exactly when I started getting bullied for being a model. And so like naturally my parents and my sister were always kind of involved in my career and from just like giving me free advice and like I used to have managers all over the world. Milan par New York and recently I got rid of all of them and now it's just like my mom and my sister are just like so fluid.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah. Cuz they'll like get boxes from a brand and they open them first and then they give them to me. So it's like so great to have them there because like I'm already with them so like I could get a box and let's say like what if I don't know how to open a box but my sister does and then she passes me what's inside the box like, like I don't even have to touch cardboard anymore.

[Sierra Jackson]

Like when I'm like, thinking about, like, what kind of makeup I want to put on, I just put it on my sister first. And that's why she has like 10 layers of makeup on at any given time, because we're just like trying different things out on her. But for me, it's like, perfect.

[Paige DeSorbo]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

So she does her photo shoot in Jesse's lucky underwear, which is so sad. And meanwhile she gets a text from Jesse and she looks sad and she's like.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I mean, I've always seen like Sierra and Jesse is like brother, sister. So like, I've never watched anything White Lotus. So to me that's just sounds like totally normal and fine, but I've never seen them flirt. So this whole thing of everybody being like, oh my God, they're flirting, like, that's weird because like, like that's not something that's like, even in my head. It's like math.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now we are back at the soft party. The soft party is still going. So then some, some of the women are asking Lil how she knows Carl. And Lil's like, well, he met like my whole family because my dad always goes to NYC FC games. And then they like became like buddies. And then I slid into his DMs and I was like, like, think of a number. Okay, now tell me the number you're thinking of. Is it the number 47? And he said, no. And I said, is it the number 63? He said, no, I says it 105. It went on for about two hours and finally he just told me his number. But anyway, working on the magic.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

But we did feel chemistry in that moment.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Gabby's like, wait, so that was last summer, right? Just. Yeah, so. And Emerald's like, yeah, the NYFC games. She goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when it was so Gabby's like.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Ding, ding, ding, ding.

[Ronnie Karam]

Math, math, math. Beautiful, beautiful mind. You know, equations going all over. She's like, wait a minute. So you're saying last summer when Lindsay and Carl were still very much engaged, he met your parents and then you slid into his DMs. That's suspicious. That's suspicious.

[Ben Mandelker]

It is. Also, I had it in my mind that Carl went to, like, a local community softball game, and I did not realize it was like an actual proper professional sporting event. So it was just like some football.

[Gabby Prescod]

Game on, like, Drive island, some kids.

[Ronnie Karam]

Softball game in a van.

[Carl Radke]

Like, hey, guys.

[Gabby Prescod]

Hey, guys. It's just me, the soft guy. Soft peddler.

[Carl Radke]

Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

But it was actually a professional soccer game.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So on Reddit. Sorry, I'm saying this like 20 times, recap. But it's all I read. So there was a screenshot of Lil posting. She's like, getting into the mix now. And she's like, what?

[Paige DeSorbo]

What? Can you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, October is after the summer. And she posts the DM where she slid into Carl's DMs, and it says, like, October 22nd. So, okay, but then why in this episode are we seeing Gabby saying, so that was last summer, right? And then Lil saying, yes. Why? Is it because they added shady in there? Yeah, maybe it was like, shady editing, but. But I don't know. There's a big mystery of the week.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that is. That is odd. Either way, though, Carl has definitely gotten a lot of mileage out of saying that. He's like, he needs to heal. He can't be around people. He hasn't even been thinking like that. But clearly he was ready to roll in October, like a few weeks later, and ready to flirt and get out on the town. So he still is paddling a narrative that he's like this. He's been damaged, even though he was.

[Carl Radke]

The one who dumped.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then. And that he is just like, he's in such a tender place and he's got to take things very slowly. But he was already. He's already. He's ready playing the field. Right. As, you know, very quickly.

[Gabby Prescod]

Oh, literally. Because it was a game. It was a sports game. Oh, thank you. Thank you, man.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then now we go to kickball west is Throwing a big kickball event because it's, like, like, trendy, and west is nothing if not youthful. Okay. Thankfully, he's not wearing a tennis sweater and a scarf on his head, so I will thank him for that one. He does still have stupid hair, though. So see where this leads? It's a group playing kickball.

[Ben Mandelker]

So his whole thing is that they played kickball, like, last year, and they all had a really fun time, and Sierra was like, yeah, that was fun. So he was hoping that this time he was like, I'm gonna do another kickball game, and Sierra will come, and then they'll be teammates, Then he'll cheer her on, and maybe she'll cheer him on. And then he's like, but I won't do.

[Carl Radke]

I won't.

[Ben Mandelker]

But I won't do a butt slap because, like, maybe, like.

[Carl Radke]

But maybe I'll do, like, a fist.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bump or something like that. So just, like, his elaborate plan to make her like him again, and it's obviously gonna fail because ultimately Sierra is like, yeah, I'm not gonna come.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And he's like, well, I guess he still feels like some kind of way. Like Jesse said, I just wish she was here so she could get over the fact that I was. Wouldn't date her. Seems to really have crushed her.

[Ben Mandelker]

So he's like, well, whatever I was doing in the house is clearly not that effective. So I think it's just, like, gonna be, like, me.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Like, it's just time for me to.

[Ben Mandelker]

Be me and have fun and get, like, my mojo back.

[Ronnie Karam]

So he says that he texted his mom to ask what. What position pregnant ladies can play. And Lindsay's like, I'll play the same position that I played in my relationship with Carl. No catcher.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And so then Gabby's like, I don't know who in the universe I pissed off to warrant going to New Jersey and then spending an afternoon playing kickball in the same week. Please no more of this. Please no more.

[Gabby Prescod]

This is, like, Gabby's best episode of the year so far.

[Ben Mandelker]

I agree. She's been so quiet all season, but, like, this. This episode, she is speaking to my soul.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they make teams and stuff, and Lindsay and Gabby are talking, and she's like, what? How was that? Like, how was that? Like, whatever you went to, like, I don't even know what to call it. And Gabby's like, It was like a friends and family soft opening thing in New Jersey.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so Lindsay. Lindsay's. The way Lindsay goes in on this was so funny.

[Sierra Jackson]

She's like, I mean, There's a lot of reasons why I didn't go, but, like, most of which I probably already wasted so much time on this man. Like, I'm not gonna waste two hours there, two hours back for something that's, like, not even opening. Like, I don't need to, like, once again celebrate you talking about doing something in the future. Like, it's still an inaction, and he wasted more money. I just, like, I can't.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, oh, my God, she's so. I didn't even think about that. But it's true. Like, it's just more money spent on something that's, like, not even opening. This isn't an opening. This is just something to, you know, to say that you're doing something, but.

[Carl Radke]

You'Re not actually doing anything.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, in his defense, which I can't even believe I'm gonna defend him, but that. In his defense, you know, he's starting small. He's starting with what he can afford the van, he's got the drinks, he's got the ice, so that's something. And he's putting it on TV to hopefully raise some money from viewers, which apparently, he does have partners plan. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's not unlike Sonia Morgan's. Sonia Morgan's whole, like, friends and family.

[Carl Radke]

Fashion show that she did, though.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then, well, to be fair, Sonia did finally get into that until, like. Like, what was it? Century 21. And then century 21 closed.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So anyway, Gabby is like, yeah. She's like, yeah, it was an expensive event. I mean, like, he.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

And I appreciate that he had a.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ceviche, and he's like, ceviche, okay. And there was barada, and there was shrimp.

[Sierra Jackson]

She's like, oh, yeah, great. Like, all the things I can't eat. Perfect. Perfect.

[Ronnie Karam]

Man, Pregnant ladies really get the short end of this.

[Gabby Prescod]

God.

[Ronnie Karam]

That was a whistle. Sorry. That was my gay whistle. I really just whistled in people's ears. Tell your dogs I'm sorry. It's a gay person that listening to. But, you know, pregnant women get the short end of the stick. Like, no Barata, no shrimp. No. Come on. There's too much. There's too much of a list. I mean, how did my mom have a carton of Benson and Hedges and a bottle of wine every day? You know? And I'm. I mean, I guess I'm not fine, but still.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was talking to my friend Laura, who just had a baby, and I was like, oh, are you so glad you could eat sushi again? Because, like, that's what everyone says. Like, oh, my God. I had to go nine months. I couldn't have sushi. Sushi. I couldn't have, like, like, soft cheeses and stuff. She goes. She goes, no. She's like, I just want to have cold cuts. I couldn't have cold cuts for nine months. And I just thought that was so funny either.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, you can't.

[Ronnie Karam]

No wonder babies come out crying. God, they can't have anything. Cigarettes, alcohol, cold cuts, burrata. Damn.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's why Jennifer Aiden was such a monster in Jersey. Mike's. Because she was, like, tapping into her infant self, being like, hey, baby, I.

[Sierra Jackson]

Haven'T had cold cuts in nun. Give me something now, baby.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Lindsay's like, wow, didn't think of pregnant women at all. And Gabby says, well, he said the soft bar is, like, for pregnant women. And he said he wants pregnant women to be there. And Lindsay's like, no, he did not. No, he did not. Oh, my God. Okay, did the girl show, Mom? Didn't the girl show up? Did she have cards in her purse?

[Ben Mandelker]

Gabby's like, yeah, she. Yeah, she was like, carl and my parents met a soccer game, like, last year, and then I slid into his dms and I was like. And this way Gabby pulls down her. Her Uchi sunglasses because she had to. She had to mark out the G, I guess. But she was like, you can tell. She was like, I am not going to mark out all the Gucci. I spent. I spent, like, a thousand dollars on these sunglasses. You're going to see that these are Gucci.

[Ronnie Karam]

So why would you have to march that.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Mark that down?

[Ronnie Karam]

They show brands on every show on Bravo.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, the G was missing because it said Uchi on the side. And I'm assuming she put some tape on it. On the G. I said, Ucci. So unless that was, like, a protest.

[Ronnie Karam]

Now they're trying to.

[Gabby Prescod]

The protests.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'll still wear your glasses. I'm just going to change the.

[Gabby Prescod]

The name of them.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just a protest about how she didn't get to go to Italy for the wedding, maybe.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Or how pregnant women can eat Uchi. So Lindsay's like, okay, did you say when this was? We need to make a timeline. And she's like, she said that summer. So they're like, oh, my God, the math. The math. And she's like, wait a minute. There was one week, the last of us being together after the soccer game and before we broke up. Okay. Are you following? I'm not really. What soccer game? The soccer game they're talking about.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, the one that's like, when Carl went to the soccer game.

[Sierra Jackson]

So she's like, yeah, so we went to the soccer game, which I thought was a softball game, and I went to his room and gave him a hug, and he was like, harder, harder, harder.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

So we had to do that for 10 minutes.

[Sierra Jackson]

And then, like, on the phone, he had a DM open. And then, like, somebody was there with, like, a phone number, and he swiped out of the dm, like, immediately. So now I know it's. Now it's all making sense to me. Like, before you've even broken up with me, like, maybe it's gone around Gabby and been like, oh, I'm such a victim. I'm such a victim. Like, I haven't moved on. I haven't moved on. I haven't moved on. But, like, whatever. Like, you've been talking to a girl since you first broke up with me.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No One thing.

[Ronnie Karam]

And you're gaslighting everyone, and you're. You're a fucking fraud. You're a fucking phony. You're a fucking liar. And now I'm heading cheater to your resume. And that's literally all that's on his resume. He's done nothing. He doesn't even have came up with the idea of Pirate Party on his resume because I came up with that.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so she's like, if you have a girl who's sliding into your DMs before you've even broken up and you're still engaged to walk down the aisle in two months, that's the kind of girl you want to bring around. Well, which is, like, rude that Lindsay is now, like, shaming the girl.

[Carl Radke]

Shame Carl.

[Ben Mandelker]

But she's like, you want to sit there?

[Lindsay Hubbard]

You want to sit there to the.

[Sierra Jackson]

World and lie to the world, being like, I didn't even know when I was gonna. That I was gonna walk into that breakup conversation.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's right, because that whole thing that Carl said, like, I didn't even know.

[Carl Radke]

I, like, walked up there. I was like, I didn't even know what I'm gonna do.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like, you knew you were already talking with Lil, and you're just, like, maintaining this image of the world that you're just like.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we see a flashback to the reunion where Andy is asking Carl if it was his intention to break up with Lindsay when he had that conversation on camera.

[Gabby Prescod]

And he's like, oh, no. I just. I wanted to get on the same page, and I hoped it would go a little differently.

[Carl Radke]

See what I did there? Ron is Winking to the camera for people who are only listening with audio.

[Gabby Prescod]

Oh. Hopefully they could just hear that in their heads, so don't worry about that.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Lindsay's like, you knew you were already talking to somebody. And her parents. So she.

[Ben Mandelker]

Are you going to conf.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, it's great. I love Lindsay being mad. And so she's like, yeah, I'm going.

[Sierra Jackson]

To confront him about it. Like, are you kidding me? I have nothing to lose. I don't need to protect his ass anymore. He's a monster.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, so funny.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now other people come to the games, and they actually start playing with Bailey.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Kickball.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bailey gets. Gets. Bailey gets invited to the. Bailey had two scenes in a row. She had two different locations. She got to go to this episode. It's wild.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So she does that, and then they. Wes finds out Sierra's not coming, and he's like, oh, that's bum. That's a bummer. You know, I miss being cool with her. You know, I just don't want to be the reason other people aren't having fun. So, like, I'm clearly uncomfortable not being friends. So then Carl comes over, and he's like, hey, Lindsay.

[Gabby Prescod]

Hey, everybody. Hey. Hey, everybody. Hey, Lindsay.

[Ronnie Karam]

High five.

[Carl Radke]

Lindsay blues.

[Sierra Jackson]

My monkey thinks nothing.

[Carl Radke]

He's like, all right, not today. That was. That was pretty hard. Hard to take. And I needed to be softer, but that's okay.

[Gabby Prescod]

It was pretty cold, you know, I tried to give her a soft five, and she said, I'm okay. Like, okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

And west is like, that's tough, man. Man, Sierra won't get over the fact that I won't date her. So that's going on, too.

[Gabby Prescod]

Darn.

[Carl Radke]

Oh, my God.

[Gabby Prescod]

For us.

[Carl Radke]

Yes.

[Gabby Prescod]

We're taking it so hard for the women on the show, aren't we, bro?

[Carl Radke]

It's like, yeah, we need to take us off.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then more people arrive, and Paige.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Is like, I can't believe Kyle and Amanda are in Italy, and I'm here playing kickball with you guys. I actually. This makes me actually almost want to call up Craig and hang up. Just kidding. Never.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'd rather die. Ball. Okay. That's what I'm playing today.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

I have a question. Can we invite Craig here and put him right in front of home base so that way, every time someone kicks the ball just hits him right in the nose? That'd be wonderful.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Lindsay catches Paige up on the. Gosh. She's like. And in August, he went to that soccer game. They were DMing each other before he ever broke up. With me and his mother. And his mother.

[Sierra Jackson]

And on the machine, Paige.

[Ronnie Karam]

On the machine, Paige is loving this. She's like, oh, wow. And she says, yeah, fucking wow. But I'm the vill. And you're lying to everyone about. You're such a victim. Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

So it's so good. I feel like for some, for some reason on Summer House, whenever they gossip, I feel like I'm part of the gossip. I'm always like, oh my God. Like, I don't know. No other show gives this effect to me. But for some reason on Summer House, when they sit down and they're like, guess what I just heard? Isn't this terrible? I always feel like I'm sitting there receiving the gossip myself. It's my own parasocial.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Jesse and Carl and Emeril, all the guys are talking and they're talking about the new girl, Lil. And Emerald's like, yeah, she is pretty quirky, huh? And he goes, yeah, it's got a.

[Gabby Prescod]

Lot of great energy. She wears safety pins on purpose.

[Ronnie Karam]

And you know, she's attractive, but you.

[Gabby Prescod]

Know, like in my head, I'm comparing myself to the orgy beast. Orgy beast. Emerald over here. So that's. That's kind of rough.

[Ben Mandelker]

But Jesse's like, nobody can compare it to the orgy beast.

[Carl Radke]

Oh, Solomon Beast.

[Gabby Prescod]

West Beast.

[Carl Radke]

I can do it too, guys. Sullivan.

[Gabby Prescod]

West.

[Carl Radke]

West.

[Ben Mandelker]

West.

[Gabby Prescod]

Ling.

[Carl Radke]

Beast. So good at this. I'm like, young again.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, well, I'm just a one woman.

[Gabby Prescod]

Man now, you know, so I'm not.

[Ben Mandelker]

Really a beast anymore.

[Gabby Prescod]

And they're like, oh my God, wait a minute.

[Ronnie Karam]

And so Emeril says, so wait, last Sunday I had a threesome, right? And we're in bed and then I hear a knock. And guess who comes in? It's this fucking guy. And he's like, yeah, I busted my ass in there.

[Gabby Prescod]

Of course I did.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, I made it clear I wouldn't getting involved. I just sat on the edge of the bed, you know, just wanted to watch and kind of jerk off into my sock.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah, seriously. So then Paige was like, by the.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Way, I have some more gossip. This is just like an amazing day. Bailey. I'm just like so hashtag excited that you're here for this moment. But last weekend at the party, Emerald.

[Sierra Jackson]

Lindsay's like, oh, yeah, I found out then, like, Jesse wanted to watch. Even I found out about it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Bailey's like, oh, yeah. And he got his toe socked.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

And like Lexi's. Lexi's like, jesse got his toe sucked.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because I forgot that Lexi's actually there now. She's like, oh, my God. And so she's did not know about this. And she's not happy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she's not liking it. And then back to the boys. Jesse's like, I don't think I was the one who said stuck my toe. And Emerald's like, no, I said it.

[Gabby Prescod]

But you didn't stop it, you know?

[Ronnie Karam]

And also, you went into a threesome to jerk off, dude. Like, come on. So then now we see Lexi staring at Jesse from across the kickball field. And. And Emeril's like, yeah, so, you know, Lexi might find out about this. He goes, I guess I have to.

[Gabby Prescod]

Bring it up now, you know?

[Ronnie Karam]

Thanks, guys.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So the girls.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Paige is like, so he conveniently left it at the toe sucking, huh? And Billy's like, well, I feel like he should just should have said something, you know?

[Sierra Jackson]

And like, she's like, yeah, it's, like, weird.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah. Like, I believed him because as Sabrina Carpenter would say, I believed a boy.

[Sierra Jackson]

I guess I. Maybe I had bad, bad taste.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Lexi's like, all week long, like.

[Sierra Jackson]

He'S been, like, the boyfriend from freaking heaven. And, like, being like, he's, like, so loyal to me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, when I was away, like, he.

[Sierra Jackson]

Missed me, like, so much, and, like, he wants me to be, like, his girlfriend. And especially with the whole, like, sleeping together thing, I felt, like, really safe with him. So now, like, knowing that he has this information and, like, he lied to me just, like, makes me feel, like, really icky.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now they play some kickball. Kickball. Kickball. Lindsay and Lexi are in the outfield, and they have a little chat. And Lexi's like, I mean, like, he.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Didn'T tell me on top of it. Like, I think that's so weird. And then now everyone's like, oh, my God, he's flirting with Sierra. But he, like, told me. But he's like, I don't want. I don't want you to think it was a thing, you know, because she's like my sister, right? And there's, like, banter.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Lindsay goes, yeah, but there was, like, a lot of flirting with Sierra that happened. Like, I wasn't there, but I heard that he told her it would have been different, like, you know, if he met. If you met me before Wes last summer, which also did happen. And so Lexi is getting more and more pissed. So now she's like, I'm gonna.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I'm gonna kick this. This. This ball really hard now.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Jesse's like, hey, Can I give you some advice? Cause you're a girl and don't understand sports.

[Sierra Jackson]

She's like, now I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Lexi's starting to, like, ice out Jesse a little bit it. And so then Jesse's like, hey, Lindsay, what is she mad about?

[Sierra Jackson]

Well, I think everything that happened last weekend, that someone sucked your toe and, like, the whole, like, thing. That's kind of, like, weird, by the way.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

I'll give you that.

[Ben Mandelker]

But it wasn't a sexual toe suck. It was a. It was. What would Carl say? A mindful toesuck. Yeah.

[Gabby Prescod]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's just, like, a prank, you know? So then Jesse goes up to Lexi, and he's like, there's no reason to.

[Gabby Prescod]

Be mad, I promise.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And she's like, I. I. If you didn't think it was weird, you would have told me. But, like, we can finish this conversation later, okay? You'll have to do it through my sister.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they play the rest of the game and stuff, and they win. Paige's team wins. And she's like, I am the backbone of this entire team, and I get done, so put some freaking respect on my name.

[Ben Mandelker]

There was some pretty good highlights. I mean, Wes had a very impressive, like, dive and roll to catch a ball. And there was, like, at one point, they're like, is there just could be a montage of emerald catching balls? Because he was. Was catching that ball a lot. Like, every time that ball went off, like, he was just. Somehow they are catching it. I was just thinking about how I would be so bad at it. Like, my highlight reel would be the exact opposite. We always joke about this. We put our hands up like this, and that would be.

[Ronnie Karam]

Even when you throw me keys, I do this.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like that red ball comes at me. It's bouncing off my fingertips. So BAL is like, oh, poor Lexi.

[Sierra Jackson]

She's not having a good time.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then they all laugh off.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Lexi goes, oh, my God, I'm sweating.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I didn't even know that I sweat.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now emeralds, like, there are sort of like. It's like post. Post game and everything. And Lindsay is like. Lindsay's saying that she's gonna hold off saying anything to Carl right now because she's smart and she knows that's more effective if she says it over dinner at the summer house.

[Carl Radke]

Right?

[Sierra Jackson]

It's like, it's just, like, not the time game. And I just, like, need to make sure, like, no one else says anything to him so that he can, like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Get his story, like, straight so we.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Can have, like, a proper really good.

[Sierra Jackson]

Argument that can, like, kind of break the Internet, you know? So we're just gonna wait.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, there's a good chance that they will now because you wouldn't give him a high five and everything else. So then now Gabby is talking to Lexi, and Jesse walks up and he's like, can I talk to her? She says, if you want. Like, alone. She's like, oh, okay.

[Gabby Prescod]

She has to walk off. I like that she's always there to guard the girls.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then they start having the conversation, and he says, it was a non thing. It was just funny. And she's like, yeah, but what about.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You telling Sierra that if she didn't date Wes last year, you guys probably.

[Ronnie Karam]

Would have been together? He's like, that's not exactly what I said, but it was pretty close.

[Gabby Prescod]

That's pretty much to prove that it was pretty much.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Jesse's like. And we see in the clip it's Jesse saying like, hey, so why don't you give me a chance? And she's like, well, because, you know, like, well, why didn't you try, like, the whole thing with the dibs? So then Lexi's like, I would never.

[Sierra Jackson]

Say that to Mr. Carl. Like, I would never be like, damn, if Jesse wasn't here the first weekend, things might have been different with you and I.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, yeah, but it was like. It was like more of it, like a joke, you know, which, by the way, that excuse is gonna get. It's gonna get old really quickly for.

[Lindsay Hubbard]

Her, I'm gonna tell you that right now.

[Carl Radke]

Now?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, if it hasn't already.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So she doesn't just take that, you know, as she. She's just like, well, first we cut to Lindsay and West talking about. Basically they're all watching them talk, you know, and how they're mad. How she's mad that he was flirting with Sierra. And Wes is like, yeah, but they've always acted like that. Yeah, but she didn't. He didn't have a girlfriend at that.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Gabby Prescod]

Stupid.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we go back to Lexi and Jesse, and she's like, you know, you're not telling me all stuff and you're embarrassing me. And now I'm hearing all this information and not from you, who I'm supposed to trust the most after knowing you for two weeks. I mean, what the hell?

[Ben Mandelker]

She's.

[Gabby Prescod]

We're basically.

[Ben Mandelker]

So. Just so you know, my brand are famous nepo babies that I date, and I am slumming it with you. You're just on a reality show and you're tall. So, like, don't do this again because I have better options broken up with.

[Ronnie Karam]

Way hotter richer people than you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay.

[Carl Radke]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's what I wanted her to say. It's. Yeah, I appreciate that. It's just like an adjustment for me because you mean a lot.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, here we go.

[Ben Mandelker]

I want you to trust me.

[Ronnie Karam]

I won't let it happen because he's already gotten. I told you it was going to be hard for me to just date one person. I'm just a work and prime. Just. I've never committed before. What is it?

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, a lot. I've never done this before. I'm just like, really shielded and like, I'm scared to open up and maybe I do things to like. Like sabotage myself.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Still makes my heart hurt. As Sabrina Carpenter would say.

[Ronnie Karam]

Thumbs.

[Sierra Jackson]

Thumbs.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, that was the end of the episode, which I loved. Thank you all for being here. And the next Summer House episode, as a reminder, Will, it's going to be in Chicago. Go next Sunday. So thanks everyone for listening and we'll catch you on the next episode. Bye. Watch what Crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King Our.

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