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Ben Mandelker
Wondry plus subscribers can listen to Watch what Crappens ad free right now. Join Wondry plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. Watch what Crappins. Watch what Crappins. Guess what happens when there's so much that happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap.
Ronnie Karam
So, I mean, look, here's the thing about this episode. They're all kind of wrong, you know, like Vihan I dislike the most, but they're all kind of doing wrong shit at this point. And I kind of like that where you don't really have to be too strong on anybody side.
Ben Mandelker
I don't. I don't like having to call Harry out for his contributions, the situation, because it'd be more fun if it was just purely black and white. But it. It has to be mentioned that Harry. Harry's been, as my mom would say, a little fresh. Just a little fresh. So Zarina. So Zarina's like, they all get to the restaurant for their big dinner and the end. Zarina's wondering like, how the date's going and everything. And Johnny's saying that they went to a sushi place. So Dar is sitting there looking bored out of her mind, and she's like, I'm having fun on the date, but like, honestly, my favorite date. I just want to like sit at a bar and watch football. It's kind of like, feels kind of weird. I mean, bless this guy's heart. And we just see Vyon making the worst dinner conversation. He's like, I had a chicken business. Yeah. I would just go to this place and load up 10kg of chicken. I had this small pickup truck. I got it for my 17th for my dad, and I would just go and deliver it to all these bodybuilders for a cheaper price in the supermarket. Wow.
Ronnie Karam
Wow. Chicken business. That's like the hottest thing that you've ever said, but I still don't have a boner. I mean, this guy said chicken business and pickup truck and I'm still not interested. That's a bad sign, am I?
Ben Mandelker
Is this. It's the red wine, isn't it? It's the red wine. I'm leaving the red wine scene. Wow, Great story. Beyond, by the way.
Ronnie Karam
I just went on my. I just went on my Instagram and noticed that I had put my pronouns on there. When did I do that? I'm never drinking red wine again.
Ben Mandelker
Von Telling a compelling story about how he slashed prices on chicken for bodybuilders. Great. So then I just love, like, the small.
Ronnie Karam
The small village bodybuilders, like, just taking in actual loads of chickens.
Ben Mandelker
He found an untapped market bodybuilder. It's like the chicken was a lost leader.
Ronnie Karam
That made me laugh too. So then, 9:23pm Wait, wait, wa.
Ben Mandelker
Are you sure it wasn't 9:20pm that's below deck.
Ronnie Karam
It's never 9:20. All right, it's 9:23.
Ben Mandelker
Three minutes.
Ronnie Karam
So Serena is asking Harry if it's going okay on deck, and he's not happy. And he's like, you know, I just want it to be better. You know what I want it to be? I want it to be like last time. And it's not like last time. You can never go back. Do you mean? And she's like, oh, yeah, I'm sorry about that, Harry. I'm sorry, but I've got a nice sperm ass to squeeze on this one, so I'll never go back. All right, mate?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And Serena is. While Harry's talking to her, Serena's just texting because she's texting. Because Beyond's been texting her and saying things like, I can't get a read on this girl, etc. Etc. Etc. And so then meanwhile, we go back to the date, and beyond is like, here's the read.
Ronnie Karam
The girl doesn't read. That's it. That's the only read you need.
Ben Mandelker
Okay.
Ronnie Karam
You're both dummies and you're incompatible.
Ben Mandelker
Yes. So Vian's like, so there was this car. Do you know Elton John? And she's like, yeah, absolutely. He's the. He's the queer from la. Well, I won't go on record saying that, but yeah.
Ronnie Karam
Twinkle Toes, Twinkle Toes. Elton John, Candle in the Wind.
Ben Mandelker
Am I right? Who puts a candle in the wind? Okay, what you do is make a fire.
Ronnie Karam
We invented light bulbs for a reason. You know what I'm saying? Light bulbs are made in America first, so.
Ben Mandelker
So Beyond.
Ronnie Karam
I think they're gonna tear Felton. John.
Ben Mandelker
I heard you can only sing.
Ronnie Karam
Rocket now because the man part got tariffed. Hey, want to keep Elton John free? Make him in America.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, congratulations.
Ronnie Karam
You're still standing.
Ben Mandelker
It's called being a. Am I right?
Ronnie Karam
Well, there's an Aston Martin he used in A music video, a blue one. And the guy I work for, he bought it in an auction. She's like, oh, wow, that's wild. Wow.
Ben Mandelker
And then I sold him chicken half off.
Ronnie Karam
Wow, that's pretty crazy. I saw Faith held inner tube and once down a river.
Ben Mandelker
Yes, I'll go right by a rock.
Ronnie Karam
You know what she was saying the entire time?
Ben Mandelker
Trisha Yearwood. I was like, wow.
Ronnie Karam
So beyond text Serena. I don't know, I just can't tell what she's thinking. I mean, God, it feels the same. So Harry sees her texting. It's like, who are you texting? She's like, oh, Von's been texting me this whole time, actually. And Lara says, oh my God, if I was on a date with a guy and he was messaging me with another female, I would have turned to one of my pigs and said, can you believe this motherfucker? And then the guy would have said, I would really appreciate it if you bring a pig on the date. And I would have said, would be more interesting and I wouldn't have to.
Ben Mandelker
All right.
Ronnie Karam
You ask a woman from a farm onto a date and this is what you get.
Ben Mandelker
Let me tell you something. I would be so. I would be so hot under the collar that I would actually have hard boiled eggs on my face entirely. So Zarina's like, like they asked for.
Ronnie Karam
In the first place. Am I right, Serena?
Ben Mandelker
She was like, so I can't answer I'm being texted with at this moment. So I have a very important role on this date. And you know what's so funny is that before the date, he grabbe and kissed my neck. And John's like, really? After I told him no sensual. And Lar's like, it's disgusting. And I was like, well, you know what? Vian's a certain type of person.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. The kind of person not to even have a discussion about it after it happens. And Lara's like, yeah, well, how can he be in love with a dare and then do that to another woman? I mean, why does a dare put up with that? Let's have some mess later and tell her.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So I was like, oh, well, you know, he's not in love with. He's not in love with the day. And John's like, I spoke with him about this, that he needs to stop being so flirty with everything. No, no sensuality. Who does he think he is, Olympia Dukakis? So Alicia's like, johnny, if I'm being honest, I like the attention that you gave me, but if you Gave. Gave that attention to everyone else. I would have to debate your sincerity. And Lara's like, don't you worry, I'm cuttlefish.
Ronnie Karam
What's the kind of fish don't you worry?
Ben Mandelker
You know me, they call me bottom bunk Johnny for a reason. Emphasis on bottom bunk, which is where I sleep, as you already know, I'm sure.
Ronnie Karam
Well, do you think if you came on to Vihan, he would go for you? And Alicia's like, oh, I'm not talking about the fish is nice. Isn't the fish nice?
Ben Mandelker
I caught this one in the port. It was a beautiful black and white fish. Oh, no, not the beauty fish.
Ronnie Karam
And Harry's like, I can answer that. And Johnny says, yes, I just hate all this. And Alicia' God, should we just stop bitching and dance? Let's just dance. So then Adair and Von join them after their date, and they move on to the next spot. And now Serena and Johnny are having a smoke and they're talking about Alicia. And she's like, well, from what I hear goes on on the radio, I just want to make sure that you're good, you know, I mean, listen, it's not been the messiest season. We need some more mess. So I'm just going to start a whole bunch of right now. Yeah, like that. Do you like. Would you like that, Johnny? He's like, okay, go for it.
Ben Mandelker
Yes. You know, I think that Vandos a great job. Great job. And he's on top of things. And the only thing.
Ronnie Karam
Oh, really? Does he give you enough direction? Does he. He, like, terrible with that. Doesn't really tell you what to do.
Ben Mandelker
No, he's good. He's good. The only thing I see is Harry. Harry, he waits for someone to tell him to even do the simplest things.
Ronnie Karam
So you don't think he has what we'd call initiative? Is that what you're saying?
Ben Mandelker
No, but he's. Is that related to sensual? Because he has none of that either.
Ronnie Karam
So then Lara goes to Adair with Bri and Marina and she's like, all right, girl, chat time. Now let me tell you this as a pancake to a bacon right now. So tonight I found out before he went on a date with you, Serena was in his cabin and he slapped her ass and kissed her on the cheek. Really? That upsets me. I had wine for him.
Ben Mandelker
I could have skipped that whole stupid.
Ronnie Karam
Dating a raw fish.
Ben Mandelker
Raw fish.
Ronnie Karam
What's the point of serving raw fish.
Ben Mandelker
If you don't get the fish for it first? So Laura's like, you Deserve more. Not much more, but something more. And I'm so sorry. And Bree's like, oh, you don't. You know, you don't need that.
Ronnie Karam
You need.
Ben Mandelker
You need someone that kisses you on the lips once in a while and makes you wonder, where do I stand?
Ronnie Karam
And Lara's like, you know, feel the energy that us females have on this boat. We are girl power. We are girl strong. We are girl on girl energy. Girl, girl, girl for girl. And Marina's like, we are. We are. I tell my iron every day, I thank God you're a woman. And Lara's like, yes, we fucking run this boat. I love you all. And they hug. And Adair is like, laura, I think that you're a boss queen. So all the girls have bonded. Yeah. Now I'm just confused. Did everybody not know that Johnny was like this all time? But still, I'll go with it. So they're. They're like, girl power.
Ben Mandelker
So then Johnny pulls Vyon aside and they stand in front of a fan, which I was so grateful for because. Just because this season's been so hot and humid, I'm like, thank God someone finally gets to stand in front of a fan. So John is like, yeah, did you send. By the way, did you send message to Zarina while you're on date?
Ronnie Karam
And he's like, this is messy night. I've heard it is messy night. I will. I shall mess as well.
Ben Mandelker
Time for click. Mess. This is going to be like, mess. This is time for, like, me to. To swirl the tzatziki, as they say.
Ronnie Karam
So let's seek it up now. I know this is stupid, but these people, they talk. And Serena said, oh, he kissed me on the neck in the cabin and grabbed my butt. But, bro, bro, but, bro, don't do this, bro. Even if half of this is true, you're too stupid. Why are you doing this? I told you, no seduction. No seduction.
Ben Mandelker
I love how it comes off like, hey, just. It starts off like, hey, just so you know, the girls are talking and then turns into like, why you do this? Why you do this? No seduction. It comes into, like, a scolding.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. So beyond like, well, it's Serena that's the problem. Then it's like, no grabbing her ass cheek. You are doing stupid stuff. You're doing it. Untick. Seduction. Untick.
Ben Mandelker
Maybe I should stop being so nice to the girls, though. Oh, yeah, it's the classic. It's like one. It's like a comedian who's like, oh, we can't make jokes about anything. Anymore. He's like, maybe I should just stop being so nice. Johnny's like, no, people will misunderstand.
Ronnie Karam
Recap started. Oh, we can't even make fun of children anymore. Look how far we've come.
Ben Mandelker
I will still make fun children, though. So then Johnny is like, it's like people will misunderstand some things that you might do, and they think that you're horny with all of them. They even told me what would happen if you didn't jump in for a dare, that you would jump into Alicia. And he's like, no, I would never do that, bro. Ever. Unless, of course I could. Then I would, but otherwise I never would.
Ronnie Karam
And he's like, yeah, you're good, but be a little make aware of what people's intentions are. Talking about things happening behind your back. Okay? Do not get it. Your eyes are wide like Homer Simpson. So let me tell you, I'm talking about enemies now. And Vion does have that look on his face, like where he gets this really wide eyed Homer Simpson look. He's like, bro, I would do this to you. Enemies. Very tall, goofy string beanie enemies. Watch out, my bro.
Ben Mandelker
I was very rapidly trying to come up with some sort of joke about Homer. Odysseus is Homer and Greek. Greece and Homer. Simpsons sin. But I couldn't do it. Couldn't do it.
Ronnie Karam
Stupid for that how? Like you too educated for that. I didn't graduate to the P.E. okay, so don't ask.
Ben Mandelker
We can only do so much on this show. Okay? So for anyone who's like, oh, there was a Homer joke there. Because you're. As a Greek man, we can only do so much. We acknowledge.
Ronnie Karam
Just know that Ben was smart enough to at least consider it.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, okay. It was a siren song, if you will. A siren song odyssey. So Johnny is like, I think that Vian and myself really get along because of the mutual respect. We both saw beautiful fish today and that we have. We have so much respect for each other professionally. And it worried me a bit when we unflash with everyone. I just. It creates drama. So now Zarina goes up to Harry and she's like, well, I had to talk with John. She's so messy.
Ronnie Karam
She's been messy all season, the whole thing, you know. And we give Von the ship for spreading the virus all around the boat. But Lara and Serena are both doing it now, too. And I think they're just like, okay, you know, if Jason's not going to help us get rid of this guy, let's just go to work. Yeah, so.
Ben Mandelker
But it's like retaliation all over. Yeah, it's like retaliation mess. Whereas Vyon's messy. Like, of no accord. He just is messy. So then Zarina's like, so they're smarter, right?
Ronnie Karam
Their mess is smarter. Vyon's just an idiot.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, there's like. They're, like, targeted mess, which feels good. Whereas his mess is, like, born out of stupid insecurity and Napoleon complex.
Ronnie Karam
Right? Like, we can appreciate the art, the artistic integrity of their mess.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
Whereas his is just, you know, his is just whipping out your wiener and trying to pee your name in the snow. And they're like, you know, mess. They're artistic mess.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, he's like Homer Simpson. And they're like, homer. The real Homer.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, they're calligraphy. And he's like. He's, like, peeing his name in the snow. There. I finished it. It only took me about 10 minutes.
Ben Mandelker
Why can't those be the samer? Why don't you write an ode about that? So Zarina's like. She's like, so, Harry, I had to talk with Johnny, and basically, he thinks that beyond works really hard and that you just wait around for orders and you don't use initiative. And I was like, what is that? Is that what he said? Is that what he really said? Where is he? She's like, no, no, no.
Ronnie Karam
Where's Johnny? Where is he? We're gonna discuss this right now.
Ben Mandelker
I'd love to tell him that he didn't rinse the sun deck properly, that I cleaned it for him. No, no, no. He's busy kissing Vian's ass. That's why there's an issue. Oh, no. My starting drama.
Ronnie Karam
Well, let me tell you this. And I don't like to curse, but I am not happy. I'm not happy right now.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, no, Harry, stop speaking so violently.
Ronnie Karam
So now they head back to the boat, and in one van, Harry's like, I thought Johnny would be on my side, but he's saying, I have no initiative. I've had enough. Let's get out of this van. I'm very angry right now.
Ben Mandelker
And. And then in the other van, Alicia. Alicia turns to. To Darren, goes, so how is it dating your boss? Which I was like, thank God it only took, like, 45 seasons of all these below decks for someone to ask this question.
Ronnie Karam
And beyond says, oh, shut up. When we work, we work, okay? So now it's 11:30pm we're getting closer. We're getting closer. Oh, my God.
Ben Mandelker
And it's also 11:30. Shocking. Not 11.
Ronnie Karam
That's how you know shit's really up and below deck world.
Ben Mandelker
It happened.
Ronnie Karam
But they're like. And now an even time clean number.
Ben Mandelker
So they're going to do a hot tub truth or dare. And honestly, thank God for all this controversy that made us have to. We were able to skip like through the dare. I mean, you guys just did this last episode. So Harry's like, they're getting ready, they're changing. And the guy. There's three guys in this tiny room and there's simmering tension. And Harry's like, so we're gonna go to the hot tub and be like, I didn't knew brew. It's like why I've been hearing so much tonight. I'm just. He just said don't need be so Rihanna's mad at Harry even though Johnny, when Johnny gossiped, he was like, Zarina told me that you were like, you were all over her. But he now Vion is blaming us all on Harry. Maybe because Harry was there when it happened. He thinks that he assumes that Harry tattletaled.
Ronnie Karam
Right? Well, Johnny's, Johnny was the messy one. But he's not going to yell at Johnny because Johnny's on his team. So he's just going to make it Harry's fault. And then Johnny also was being messy about Harry. So it's funny because Serena was the one kind of spreading, but Johnny is the one taking the bullets because Johnny is being messy. I mean, they all are, you know, it's time for a commercial. It's time for a Grappens commercial.
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Early and ad free by joining Wondery. So then Harry's like, what have you been hearing? I mean, you can let it out if you want. Go on then. And he's like, oh Harry, wow. You know, you're probably the instigator. You be careful, Harry. You be careful. It's like, well, I'm listening. And he goes, no, I don't have to say it to you. What I'm saying is you just be careful. I love this little five foot guy talking to the giraffe. He's like, you eat one more leaf off of that tree. You be careful. You will run out of trees.
Ben Mandelker
Boys, can we just keep it fucking professional for once? And Vian's like, Vian's basically like, like, please, please, we are working hard here. Stop talking behind my back first off. And stop talking to the interior. And Harry's like, okay, it's like clear. Okay, Because I've had it now. This is it. Okay, I've had it. You understand? I understand. Good. And Harry has this look on his face like, you short little man.
Ronnie Karam
Like, Harry looks like he's about to cry a hundred percent.
Ben Mandelker
But he's also like seething. And like, Harry has always been like, happy, go lucky. Like use car dealership floaty thing. And now he's just like, has the look on, he gives him, he gives V on such a nasty look at this point that I went, I put it on our social media because I was like, this was kind of an amazing glare that he gave. Oh, it was so, it was so cut fitnessy. I loved it.
Ronnie Karam
And he's like, but I don't understand what I've done because. Oh, bro, please, I don't want to get angry at you. I've been very nice to you and I've been very nice to this crew. And you don't want to see me angry. You don't want to see me angry. And I'm asking you now very nicely, stop what you are doing. Stop what you are doing now. And he's like, please tell me what I'm doing. He goes, now you stop it now, giraffe. You stop it right now. You think you are giant. I have a rock that I can pull back and rubber band. It was in the Bible. David and Goliath, Yes. I'm not afraid of you.
Ben Mandelker
But you're the Goliath here. You're the, you're the boss. It's like, no, don't play those word games with me. So please just tell me what happens. I'm not going to elaborate. You know exactly what you did. You know what you did. And Harry's like, I'd like you to elaborate. I'm not going to. And if I'm going to start elaborating, then people Are gonna. People are gonna get involved, and you're going to be fucked. So I'm asking very nicely now, stop.
Ronnie Karam
And Harry's like, okay. So then Harry leaves and goes to sit off on the side of the boat. And he's like, I will walk off tomorrow.
Ben Mandelker
I will walk off.
Ronnie Karam
And so Serena comes to him, Serena, who has helped. Cause all this, comes to him and it's like, oh, no, Harry, you're crying. I love it. Thank God I've done done something well on this boat. That's good. No one's gonna complain about this service. Am I right?
Ben Mandelker
All right.
Ronnie Karam
Nailed it. Oh, Harry, come here. My little area.
Ben Mandelker
And he's like, no, he blew up at me.
Ronnie Karam
And he goes, harry, if you don't stop what you're doing. And she goes, what were you doing? What were you doing? I mean, I know because I told him, but go ahead. What are you doing?
Ben Mandelker
I was doing nothing. I was getting changed. So I tell. So. So I said, tell me what I'm doing. Please tell me what I'm doing. What am I doing? And he couldn't say one single thing. You know, Johnny's spoken to him, obviously. And everything I've said to Johnny tonight went straight to Vian. And the way he spoke to me and John stood there, if. If that's the deck team on this bit, I'm out. I'm out. I'm not going to deal with these manly men.
Ronnie Karam
I will honestly walk off tomorrow.
Ben Mandelker
I will walk off tomorrow, walk off the wall. Because there's nothing on this boat that will stop me from walking off. There's not one single thing, not one single person, not one single beautiful person from New Jersey. He's going to stop me from doing this.
Ronnie Karam
I've already got everything I needed to on my resume this season. I've done a good job. I've had sex with the model.
Ben Mandelker
All right.
Ronnie Karam
My LinkedIn is full. I could le.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, dear. I feel like I stirred the pot and made it worse. Oh, what a travesty. You're welcome. Bravo. No, no, you did. It's fine. It's been brewing. It's been about time that it all came out. The fact that he doesn't say anything back to me should show you that he knows that he's in the wrong. So then. Oh, you're still on mute, my dear Lonnie. I see you crying over there on your side of the screen, but you're on mute, sweet thing.
Ronnie Karam
Oh, thank you. So upset. I muted myself during this whole thing.
Ben Mandelker
I will walk this audio off the boat. I will walk the audio off.
Ronnie Karam
So then Vyon's still going off to Johnny's, like, why? Why do we have such stupid people? Such stupid, tall people? And John is like, I'm not going to say you are wrong. Don't lose your cool, seductive man. Do you need to seduce me? Do it. If it makes you feel better, do it. I have two butt cheeks right here waiting for you.
Ben Mandelker
I have two pink nipples that you.
Ronnie Karam
Are free to touch.
Ben Mandelker
So Harry is like. Harry's like the deckhand that thought that I thought I could trust speaks to the boss about what I say. And now my boss is against me. So he's against me. And I do everything that asks me, and he yells at me, and he talks to me down on the radio, and now he's shouting at me in the cabin. And that's not nice. It's not. Serena's like, oh, you're allowed to have your emotions. Go cry, skinny man. Cry on my shoulders.
Ronnie Karam
I love man tears. I love them. It's like they're the one thing that gets me not horny on this boat. So please, just keep crying. You know, keep my wits about me. I do feel bad for Harry because Johnny. Johnny is kind of a little. Yeah, what the hell, man? Like, why are you. Why are you getting involved? It's not cool. I don't like him standing behind. And I also don't like that he doesn't have the sense to see how bad Vihan is at leading. You know, he's like, oh, Hetty. Because I do think Harry is causing discord and stuff like that. But then just tell Harry, don't go, like, gossip with the boss about it and turn the boss against Harry even more. I mean, that's a woof move on Johnny.
Ben Mandelker
But also, like, what Johnny went and gossiped about was about what the women were saying at the table. And Harry had nothing to do with that. That was Zarina who said, like, oh, by the way, like, yeah, I'm texting with Van on his date, and, like, he was making out with me earlier. And then they all started talking about the flirtiness. And so the fact that, like, Johnny doesn't jump in and says, Harry didn't say anything tonight at dinner about that. This is your. You shouldn't be blaming Harry. I did think that was shitty. Because the thing is with Johnny, too, is that, like, so much of his Persona is that he is kind of chivalrous and he is very manly, and he comes in and does for the women, like, for Alicia, he Does these romantic gestures, and he says these things that are so kind of like. Like, I will protect you. And, yes, I would be respectful. And he seems kind of like a knight in shining armor. That's his whole vibe. And yet, when it really came down to it, at the moment where it mattered the most for him to actually be that way and not just talk that way, he kind of didn't do it. It. He kind of failed. Which is upsetting because that was kind.
Ronnie Karam
Of all that stuff, too, though. Like, when he first walks up and he just takes Alicia by the face and he's like, and now I kiss you. She's like, oh, bro.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
But the, like, he's very like, I am man. You are woman, and here's how man act. And I think he's probably a little turned off by Harry, because I think he sees Harry is kind of, like a girly man, because Harry, you know, he's always gossiping with the girls. And Harry, you know, he does catch on that under the Harry, like, kind of gossip up thing and starting kind of thing.
Ben Mandelker
And he also is, like.
Ronnie Karam
He thinks of that is, like, womanly behavior. And so he looks at Johnny as, like, an alpha, or he looks at. Von is, like, kind of an Alpha dude. And so he's gonna like, naturally side with him and be like, we are bigger than this. We are men. We don't have emotion. You need to keep it in, bro.
Ben Mandelker
I don't even think he sees Vyond necessarily, even as an alpha. But what he does see is that he's the boss. And I think that, like, probably Johnny, like, is, like, you as a man. You fall in line and you do your orders and you just do the work. And so he's so traditional in that way. Probably Harry, because of what we already picked up on, is a little bit of a tattletale. And he does hang out with the women and everything. I think Vyon is kind of like. He's obviously not Vyon, but Johnny's obviously, like, torn, right? Because he's just like, well, on the one hand, Vyon's totally wrong right now, but on the other hand, I. My morals say, like, don't step out of line. And so he's like, I'm just gonna be quiet, but it's the shitty thing to do. And I think it's actually interesting because, like, I find that sometimes, like, over the course of the season, Johnny's doing things. And I do find it actually oddly, like, sexy. And I realized the reason why is because, like, some of that like, traditional man stuff, it's so ingrained in us like, that this is the way men should be. So it's like, wow. It's like, he is so manly. And it's like. It's. It's. It's like, wow, Johnny's kind of sexy. And then you realize, like, oh, but the flip side is that all this manliness stuff comes with a huge amount of toxicity. That's not really healthy for anyone. And it unsexifies it, which is good, because we shouldn't be. We shouldn't think this is sexy, really.
Ronnie Karam
Well, I mean, you know, like, Johnny, I think for the most part's okay, but for the. He's just. He's just being kind of a dick right now. And then it's funny how it dovetails to what you were saying earlier about, you know, like, men being the most emotional and stuff like that. Because Johnny's the one. He's like, no, we are professional. We don't show emotion on both. And then he's the one who ends up having a meltdown.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, exactly. See, that's what I'm saying. It's like there's like, as. As much as we like to be like, oh, we like a real man, you know, it's like, yeah, but that also comes with a whole bunch of shit, too. And we forget that sometimes. So either way, Harry is Now. He's still, like, venting and everything. And Serena has caused such a show. So Johnny comes out. So Johnny's gonna check in on Harry because Johnny feels bad that Harry's crime. Because ultimately, while Johnny does not want to step out of line, he also does, I think, on some level, realize that Harry is being like. Like, you know, unfairly attacked here.
Ronnie Karam
Well, he says at some point, like. But he's crying, you know. So he goes over, and Serena's telling Harry, oh, you're just tired. You haven't had proper management. I mean, you haven't eaten properly in days. Vyond's terrible hungry. Vyon sucks, you know, and so she's, like, still going hard on, like, how much Vyon sucks, which I think is funny. She's like, just to cement it in there, Harry, why you're upset, what you will tell the captain tomorrow why you're quitting. Vion sucks. So Harry comes over, or Johnny comes over, and Harry's like, no, no, later. No. And he's like, I just want to stay here for a. And he's like, I will. What's the problem? Then he goes, well, Vihan thinks that you Speak bad. And he told me that all this bad energy from Serena and Lara, they come from stuff that you have spoken for.
Ben Mandelker
And Zarina's like, what? Lauren, I think is personal and nothing to do with Harry, who you did say has lacks initiative. Oh no, Harry. Did that make you angry?
Ronnie Karam
What she doesn't say, unfortunately, because Johnny is trying to. Johnny worms his way out of that one really easily. And I think Serena and Lara are capable of hating Von for their own reasons.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I think so.
Ronnie Karam
Give me a break. So Serena, they work directly with him here is some underling, you know Serena.
Ben Mandelker
Yes. Yeah. Von was literally spraying the floor underneath the chairs like 10 minutes before people were coming out for breakfast. Like Laura, Laura. Like she doesn't need Harry to tattle to her for. For her to have be annoyed at Von and his lack of priorities.
Ronnie Karam
Right. So Harry's like, well why didn't you say anything in the cabin then? And Johnny says, because it is between you and him, Serena. Well, but the. But you made it yourself when you went and like tattletailed on everything.
Ben Mandelker
Johnny. Yeah. You were part of this.
Ronnie Karam
So Serena says, yeah, so if it's between them, then why are you even here right now, Johnny? And he goes, yeah, why are you here right now if it's between me and him? What she said, she said it very well. And he goes, because I don't like you being in tears.
Ben Mandelker
Don't like it. Harry's crying just broke my heart into. I can understand that it might be too much for him, but together we are a great team. Let's find a solution and get these things sorted out. I was like, please, just give me a second, please. So her. So Johnny leaves. It's like sad Johnny. John's like, oh, I try. So now meanwhile the other girls have no idea that. What? That this, all this.
Ronnie Karam
They're just wasted.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, they're just dressed up like angels.
Ronnie Karam
Yes, we're girls. Let's put on wings and like go around the boat and be like girl angels. So they're doing that. Johnny catches Lara up on the goss and he's like I tried to speak with we hun about some shit he's been doing wrong. And Harry thinks I spoke about about him, which he did. And Von just sent aggressive tech, just went aggressive against Harry. But now Harry is crying and it breaks my heart. And now Harry blames me for him being aggressive. It is not a game I'm willing to play. So he walks off and Lara's like, well, all right. Well I guess I've got these wings for nothing. He didn't even say you're an angel. I mean nothing.
Ben Mandelker
Would you say, Johnny, that you have egg on your face? Because. Welcome to my world. So Zarina is like, all right, all right, Harry, bedtime. I'm gonna take you down. I'm gonna take you down to the bed, you sweetie little boy. So she's gonna take him down. And John is like, please, you can speak with you. So Harry's like, okay, sure, we can talk. He's like, I tried to speak to Viondo, fix some stuff with Viondo, with you, with everyone. I'm just trying to sort this out. I'm not trying to put blame on anyone. And Serena's like, yeah, but you hear a story from him where he's perfect, but he's not respecting other departments. You know, I have Lara cry now. I have him crying, crying, oh, because of Vihan.
Ronnie Karam
And he's like, I don't understand what set him off like that. And so both Lara and Serena are like, come on, Harry, we're leaving. Johnny's like, no, no, come on. We can. We can keep speaking. And like, no, Johnny, he needs his Betty by. This is heavy. We're putting Harry to bed. Poor Harry.
Ben Mandelker
Poor Harry.
Ronnie Karam
All right, good feud. I'm glad you're chill, but Harry is not chill. Come on, Harry. Don't look at him. He's like, mary.
Ben Mandelker
Well, I need to go upstairs also. Don't go another staircase. Go. Just find some of the. Just drill a hole in the ceiling and find a rope and climb up that way. Don't be near him. He cannot be near you.
Ronnie Karam
I love that Laura went. You go find another way upstairs.
Ben Mandelker
Thank you.
Ronnie Karam
He's like, go cuddle.
Ben Mandelker
Harry actually almost felt. Come on. I actually almost. I felt kind of bad for Johnny at this point because, yes, Johnny did gossip with beyond. Although he was kind of just saying, like, you have to stop being so flirty with people. He wasn't saying, like, they're all talking about you. He was basically like, you got to stop that.
Ronnie Karam
Well, he did say he was saying, like, Harry, it does whatever he can to make you look bad. He did say that earlier. Like, oh, yeah, Harry's always talking bad so you can look bad.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, he did say that, but, like.
Ronnie Karam
He'S been there, too.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And like, he should have spoken up when he had the chance to. But here I do actually feel like he was trying to. Like, I felt like he was trying to maybe to mend this in some weird way. And I felt like Yeah, I kind of felt like the two of them should have been able just to talk and like, it was like, for like Serena and Lara to be like, no, don't. Not precious Harry. I was like, well, this is, this is actually not helping Harry's case. And also, like, let Harry decide what he's gonna do, you know, because.
Ronnie Karam
I know, but they've got Harry right where they want him. Right. Because they've both been sewing all of this stuff against Vihan too. And it's not like. It's not. But reasonable.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
Like to, to hate him. But they've also been sewing a lot of discord against Vihan, especially with Serena and Harry tonight. So. And I think it's genuine right where they want him. He's, like furious, you know, he's upset. He's going to go threaten to quit. He's going to do all of this stuff against Vihan, which they've been trying to do. And so now they're trying to like, shield him from like.
Ben Mandelker
But I think it's also genuine okay.
Ronnie Karam
With Johnny, you know, I think it.
Ben Mandelker
I think it dovetails with an agenda. But I think that they're kind of like. We see Harry as like actually a good worker who has. It has like a. A work ethic, who has an idea of how the boat should be run and doing the right things. And he's getting shat on by this shitty guy who doesn't know how to run his department, makes all of our lives hell and blames everyone. And we're going to stand up for him because no one's standing up for Harry right now. So I think it's. I think what you're saying is correct, but I also think that it was. It also was not like it wasn't purely with an ulterior motive. I think they actually generally feel like they needed to protect him in that moment, even though I don't think they.
Ronnie Karam
Needed a grown man. So, like two. Two people.
Ben Mandelker
We're not protected with him. Yeah, maybe not protecting, but they want to stand up.
Ronnie Karam
Johnny's attacking Harry when he's apologizing.
Ben Mandelker
I think that maybe wanted to make. Maybe I should say they wanted Harry to see that there were people in his corner. So. But either way, I agree Harry should have just like, Harry didn't need Harry.
Ronnie Karam
Oh my God, he's not a baby. So I mean, even though he's bubbling and. But all that right now. So then it's 12, 13. Okay, so the girls put him to bed. They're go to sleep, Harry. We Believe in ourselves. We believe in you. We believe in the force. So they put him down and I give him a bottle. And then it's 12, 13. And now Alicia knocks on the guy's door to go in.
Ben Mandelker
She's looking for Johnny because remember she said, can I come in tonight and just cuddle with you? So she walks into this dark room, she can't see anything. We see her actually looking around and she literally says, johnny, Johnny. And for a moment I'm like, oh, this is gonna be, this is gonna be a silly, this will be a silly blow deck moment, right? Where it's like someone gets like, there'll be a mistake and it'll be hahaha funny. But it doesn't go that way.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. So she's like, johnny, Johnny. And via like what? What's going on? Like what, what's happening? And she goes, oh my God, Harry's in tears. He's out there in tears and he's like in tears. Why is Harry in tears? And so she gets into the bed with him thinking it's Johnny.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, she thinks it's Johnny.
Ronnie Karam
He just goes with it. He just like throws his arm over her and starts cuddling with her.
Ben Mandelker
He starts cuddling, it's like, I don't know what's happening. But yeah, I thought I heard a kiss sound. Like a kiss on the neck sound.
Ronnie Karam
Oh, I didn't catch that. Damn. But I did notice that he like just spoons are, he big spoons are, you know, so he just throws his arm over her like, okay, I'll just go with it because he's Dan. So then Johnny comes in and she's like, she sees the light from the light in the door, she can see that it's Johnny. And she's like, oh my God, Johnny, I thought that was you. So she gets out of the bed and. And he's like, oh my God, Johnny, I just genuinely up, I thought it was you. And he's like, it is okay, it is okay. And he starts, he leaves and Vyon's like, he's like freaking out in the hall and now somehow the girls see this and they all start crying. Well, what happened?
Ben Mandelker
Well, so I mean, basically I don't know. I don't know if they start crying because of this, but Johnny is like raging now and he goes in the room and Von, being the idiot that he is, is kind of like, he's like, what's, what's going on, Johnny? Please, you have to tell me. You have to tell me.
Ronnie Karam
And he's Like, Alicia sees Bri in the hallway, and she's like, oh, my God, I thought that was Johnny in his bed. So I went into cuddle, and then Johnny walked in, and it was actually von and breath, like, von in bed. We need to discuss this with somebody. And she's like, I mean, what's going on? What. What's going on? So, yeah, then Johnny goes back to the room.
Ben Mandelker
I'm unclear whether or not Johnny believes her, but he. All I didn't know is that it.
Ronnie Karam
Seems like he doesn't.
Ben Mandelker
It seems like he doesn't believe her. I don't think he does.
Ronnie Karam
He's gonna go cheat right in front of your face, weirdo.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So then he's like, my ticket. Take wits and be Johnny. What's going on, Johnny? And Lisa's telling them about what happened. He's like, please, please, I'm gonna go. She goes, no, Johnny, please tell me what's going on. What's wrong? I'm like, this guy, he's like, I'm out of here.
Ronnie Karam
I'm out of here. And he starts, like, throwing his. His.
Ben Mandelker
Please tell me what's going on.
Ronnie Karam
He's like, he has better socks. I put it in suitcase.
Ben Mandelker
What. What possibly could make you angry right now? Why? Why. Why in the world would you ever be angry? What. What possibly could have made you angry at this moment?
Ronnie Karam
And this is when he goes, ah.
Ben Mandelker
I just want to understand what is going on. What is happening. I just want to understand.
Ronnie Karam
If I hear a little bit more talking, I will destroy this ship. So please. You're talking.
Ben Mandelker
Please, please don't punch, punch, punch.
Ronnie Karam
Talk to me.
Ben Mandelker
Diane Weis is like, amateur. Don't speak. Don't speak. No, don't speak. Don't speak.
Ronnie Karam
Don't. Don't speak. Don't speak. When he looks right into the camera and almost punches the camera and then. But does the beat Arthur butt on his hand, he's like, I put underwear over camera.
Ben Mandelker
I need to see the next episode right away. What in the world it is. I think it's. It's so shitty that beyond did that. And I feel so bad for Alicia now, because now I don't think that. I don't know if Johnny's gonna believe her. Maybe he will. Maybe in the morning. But, like, because her response was good riddance.
Ronnie Karam
Look, Johnny, I can get why Johnny would be annoyed, okay? But obviously, she's not going to go cheat right in front of your face, and it was pitch dark in there. But also, if a guy gets that mad, you don't want that guy.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
You know, and I don't care if you think it's for a good reason. Like, you know, I always say, don't worry about who you're marrying. Worrying about. Worry about who you're divorced. Like, you need to look at the worst side of somebody and say, can I be with that person? You know, or, like, put a. Put a. Put a camera in someone's car and see what they're like in traffic and how they talk to the other cars, because that's where you see a person's real person. I know, but you have to see the worst. Just, you know, maybe they yell the C word a few times.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. If someone yells.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I will say I.
Ben Mandelker
Honk my car, but I never actually.
Ronnie Karam
Worse side. And that's not a good one. Johnny's is not a good one. That's. That's scary. That's a temper you don't want.
Ben Mandelker
That's not good. I think he's gonna be off the boat because I think that punching a wall like that, that is a temper, and it's scary. And, yeah, I. Yeah, it's funny. You did bring up a good point, because I'm like, oh, I wonder if he'll ever believe her. Because the implication is that way they can get back together. But it's like, yeah, you're right. They should not be like, yeah, I.
Ronnie Karam
Don'T want her with him. Creepy. That's too much.
Ben Mandelker
You know? It is. It's more like I. I want her name cleared. I want her name cleared just for herself. And, you know, it doesn't. It's not. It's not so much about them getting together. It's just like. Like, well, her name will be cleared when he sees this. But I just, like, that's. That sucks.
Ronnie Karam
But also, what did Vion. Who did. Who did Vihan think was climbing into his bed to cuddle? Like, I love that beyond. Doesn't even care. He's just like, well, okay, yeah, take it.
Ben Mandelker
I know. That's what's so shitty. Like, that's. That's. That's the real headline here, is that the girl just climbs into his bed, and he's. He's professing that he's into Adair, but, like, a girl. A girl. And he knows it's Alicia, by the way. He knows it. And he knows that this is the girl that Johnny is into. And Johnny even said, please don't be.
Ronnie Karam
Wait, does he know it's Alicia? Because she. He's kind of like groggy waking up or whatever but I guess once she gets in the bed he he 100 yeah because I guess once she starts talking and she says someone's crying or.
Ben Mandelker
Harry's crying or whatever, he knows it's not Adira's voice. He knows it's not Bree's voice. He knows it's not Laura or Serena. So he does.
Ronnie Karam
He knows an outside Bree is in the hallway sobbing. It's like oh my God this is intense. Whatever's going on on this what does that mean?
Ben Mandelker
So he's a vyon's a piece of and I I I fascinated to see how this is all going to play out.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And Johnny says you are also fake on this boat. It's like oh Johnny, Johnny blue. Johnny blue. So it'll be interesting to see what happens next week.
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Episode #2795: Below Deck Down Under S03E10 Part Two: Cuddle Chaos
Release Date: April 8, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Platform: Wondery
In this episode of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive deep into the tumultuous events of "Below Deck Down Under" Season 3, Episode 10, Part Two: Cuddle Chaos. True to their style, Ben and Ronnie dissect every twist and turn, providing insightful commentary sprinkled with their signature humor. This detailed summary captures the essence of their discussion, highlighting key moments, conflicts, and standout quotes from the episode.
The episode kicks off with a tense dinner scene where tensions simmer among the crew. Zarina organizes a big dinner at a sushi restaurant, but things quickly derail.
Ben narrates the awkward dynamics:
"So Zarina's like, they all get to the restaurant for their big dinner and at the end, Zarina's wondering like, how the date's going and everything. And Johnny's saying that they went to a sushi place. So Dar is sitting there looking bored out of her mind..."
(00:57)
Ronnie chimes in with a humorous take on Vian's attempt to impress:
"I just want to like sit at a bar and watch football. It's kind of like, feels kind of weird."
(01:52)
Ben highlights Vian's quirky business pitch:
"I had a chicken business. I would just go to this place and load up 10kg of chicken. I had this small pickup truck..."
(02:05)
Ronnie mocks the business concept:
"Chicken business. That's like the hottest thing that you've ever said, but I still don't have a boner."
(02:14)
The dinner scene further unravels as Serena engages in distracting texting, causing frustration among the crew.
Ben explains Serena's distracted behavior:
"While Harry's talking to her, Serena's just texting because she's texting. Because Vian's been texting her and saying things like, I can't get a read on this girl..."
(03:00)
Ronnie underscores the incompatibility:
"You're both dummies and you're incompatible."
(03:47)
Post-dinner, Harry confronts Serena about her lack of engagement and ongoing texting, leading to heightened tensions.
Serena seeks to mitigate the situation:
"I'm sorry about that, Harry. I'm sorry, but I've got a nice sperm ass to squeeze on this one, so I'll never go back."
(03:32)
Ronnie adds a comedic flair to Harry's plight:
"You are doing stupid stuff. You're doing it. Untick. Seduction. Untick."
(11:22)
Ben observes the crew's struggle with leadership:
"The only thing I see is Harry. Harry, he waits for someone to tell him to even do the simplest things."
(08:23)
Ronnie comments on Johnny's lack of initiative:
"Do you think if you came on to Vihan, he would go for you?"
(07:30)
A pivotal moment unfolds during a hot tub truth or dare, where misunderstandings escalate the drama.
Alicia attempts to connect with Johnny but mistakes Vian for him:
"She walks into the bed with him thinking it's Johnny. And he's like, oh my God, Johnny, I thought that was you."
(38:10)
Ronnie captures the chaos:
"She gets into the bed with him thinking it's Johnny... So she thought it was Johnny, and he's like, oh my God, Johnny, I just genuinely up, I thought it was you."
(38:27)
Ben reflects on Johnny's disbelief:
"It seems like he doesn't believe her."
(40:06)
Emotions reach a boiling point as crew members confront each other amidst misunderstandings and gossip.
Harry's Breaking Point:
"I will walk off tomorrow."
(24:32)
Ronnie emphasizes the severity of the situation:
"That's too much. That's a temper you don't want."
(42:25)
Ben and Ronnie discuss the toxic masculinity displayed by Johnny:
"He is so manly. And it's like... he kind of failed."
(27:52)
"That's not good. I think he's gonna be off the boat because I think that punching a wall like that, that is a temper, and it's scary."
(42:39)
As the episode progresses, the aftermath of confrontations leaves the crew divided and emotionally strained.
Strategizing Support for Harry:
"We are going to stand up for him because no one's standing up for Harry right now."
(36:24)
Ronnie discusses the crew's mixed motivations:
"And Johnny's attacking Harry when he's apologizing."
(37:03)
Ben analyzes the dynamics between Johnny and Harry:
"Johnny's like, I think that Viah and myself really get along because of the mutual respect."
(13:21)
The episode culminates in unresolved tensions, leaving listeners eager for the next installment.
Ben teases future developments:
"I am fascinated to see how this is all going to play out."
(44:10)
Ronnie highlights Johnny's deteriorating behavior:
"He's just being kind of a dick right now."
(29:48)
Ben concludes with anticipation:
"He knows an outside Bree is in the hallway sobbing. It's like oh my God this is intense."
(43:55)
Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie provide a nuanced analysis of the crew's interpersonal dynamics, leadership struggles, and the ripple effects of gossip and misunderstandings. Their commentary not only entertains but also offers a critical examination of reality TV tropes and character behaviors.
Ben reflects on toxic masculinity:
"Some of that like, traditional man stuff, it's so ingrained in us... it's like he is so manly. And it's like... he's kind of sexy."
(28:22)
Ronnie emphasizes the importance of recognizing toxic behavior:
"Don't worry about who you're marrying. Worry about who you're divorcing."
(41:45)
Ben underscores the complexity of crew relationships:
"I think what you're saying is correct, but I also think that it was... it was not purely with an ulterior motive."
(36:03)
Episode #2795 of Watch What Crappens offers a comprehensive and engaging recap of "Below Deck Down Under" Episode 10: Cuddle Chaos. Ben and Ronnie navigate the intricate web of relationships, conflicts, and dramatic moments with wit and insight, ensuring listeners are well-informed and entertained. Their ability to blend humor with critical analysis makes this episode a must-listen for fans of Bravo’s reality TV dramas.
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