#2797 RHOBH Live in Boston: Meme Streets of Bel Air

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens – Episode #2797: RHOBH Live in Boston: Meme Streets of Bel Air

Released on April 11, 2025, “Watch What Crappens” hosted by Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dives deep into the latest Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (RHOBH) reunion filmed live in Boston. This episode, titled “Meme Streets of Bel Air,” offers a no-holds-barred, humorous critique of the drama-filled reunion, dissecting every outrageous moment with sharp wit and unfiltered commentary.

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1. Arrival and First Impressions [04:03 – 05:50]

Ben and Ronnie kick off the episode by sharing their excitement about being in Boston, setting the stage for the live RHOBH reunion. They humorously contrast Boston’s charm with their solo travel experiences, highlighting Ben’s amusing anecdote about listening to airport announcements.

Notable Quote:

• Ben Mandelker [04:26]: “This is the proudest city I've ever been in. The whole way. I was on the little walkie thing, you know, standing there listening to it. She's like, welcome to Boston, the best fucking city in America.”

2. Highlighting RHOBH Drama: The Dog Incident [05:23 – 11:35]

A significant portion of the episode focuses on a viral moment from the RHOBH reunion involving Kyle Richards confronting a woman mishandling her dogs on the street. Ben and Ronnie break down the confrontation, emphasizing Kyle’s over-the-top reaction and the woman’s escalating hostility.

Notable Quotes:

• Ronnie Karam [08:04]: “Wait, did you guys see the video of Kyle Richards today? This is so fresh…”
• Ben Mandelker [10:15]: “This lady was like, what the fuck, you motherfucker. This is Liberty fucking Park, bitch.”

3. Analyzing Kyle Richards’ Behavior [12:01 – 26:28]

The hosts delve into Kyle Richards' interactions during the reunion, particularly her strained relationship with Dorit Kemsley. They humorously critique Kyle’s attempts to appear a “girl’s girl” while simultaneously distancing herself from Dorit, highlighting the inconsistency in her actions.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben Mandelker [12:16]: “Goys. I think PK has left me.”
• Ronnie Karam [22:09]: “Just say no. No, I’m not talking about it.”

4. The Role of PK Goya and Friendship Dynamics [26:28 – 43:58]

Ben and Ronnie explore the complex friendships within the RHOBH cast, especially focusing on PK Goya’s influence. They mock the tangled web of communication and betrayal, pointing out how PK is perceived as a central figure manipulating relationships.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben Mandelker [33:31]: “She's a stalker. She's terrified.”
• Ronnie Karam [35:07]: “She's like, I'm a girl's girl. I come from a family of women…”

5. Garcelle Beauvais and Jennifer Tilly’s Entrance [43:58 – 72:55]

The discussion shifts to Garcelle Beauvais and the unexpected appearance of Jennifer Tilly at the reunion. Ben and Ronnie humorously dissect Jennifer’s over-the-top entrance and the ensuing interactions, highlighting the absurdity and theatricality she brings to the reunion.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben Mandelker [64:10]: “This drama I can live for because it's another, like, Erica type coming for Erica.”
• Ronnie Karam [65:09]: “I accidentally got rich to buy fucking an ugly guy for a while…”

6. Kathy Hilton’s Segment and Further Drama [73:19 – 89:43]

Kathy Hilton takes the spotlight, and Ben and Ronnie provide a comedic analysis of her interactions and the ensuing conflicts. They mock Kathy’s attempts to extract gossip and her interactions with other cast members, portraying her as the ultimate antagonist.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben Mandelker [73:19]: “You look like you're floating.”
• Ronnie Karam [76:27]: “She just confounds everybody. Everybody's just like, what the is this?”

7. Final Showdowns and Apologies [89:43 – 91:56]

The reunion reaches its climax with heated exchanges and public apologies. Ben and Ronnie highlight the over-the-top apologies and the continued tension among the housewives, emphasizing the never-ending cycle of drama that defines RHOBH.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben Mandelker [90:22]: “You don't have to be nice to get love. Look at me.”
• Ronnie Karam [91:12]: “So Jennifer says, do you think she's on medication?”

8. Wrap-Up and Reflections [91:56 – End]

In the concluding segments, Ben and Ronnie reflect on the overall chaos of the reunion, summarizing their thoughts on the guests’ performances and the futility of resolving long-standing tensions. They end on a humorous note, tying back to the episode’s title with playful jabs at the cast members.

Notable Quotes:

• Ben Mandelker [93:00]: “Welcome to the club. Everybody say my name welcome to the mall.”
• Ronnie Karam [96:27]: “If you like, watch what crappens. You can listen ad free right now by joining Wondery plus…”

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Insights and Conclusions

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie maintain a consistent tone of satire and humor, providing listeners with a lighthearted yet scathing critique of the RHOBH reunion. They excel in highlighting the petty conflicts and exaggerated personalities that make the show both divisive and entertaining. By incorporating notable quotes and sharp observations, they offer both fans and newcomers an engaging analysis of the intricate dynamics within the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Final Thoughts: “Watch What Crappens” Episode #2797 delivers a comprehensive and entertaining breakdown of the RHOBH live reunion, capturing the essence of the show’s drama while offering a fresh, comedic perspective. For fans looking to relive the chaos or newcomers seeking an insightful introduction, this episode serves as a perfect summary of what makes the Real Housewives franchise a staple in reality television.

Transcript

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

It. Wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hello, boss. Boston. Gorgeous.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hello.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you so much for being here. Boston. We love you guys.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God. The Boston show is always a fun one on our tour. You guys have fun. And it's a Friday night.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love this town so much. When we came in yesterday, well, when I came in yesterday, we didn't fly together yesterday, so I was in alone and I was listening to the airport announcements because, you know, that's what you do when you're alone. I never noticed. I was like, this is the proudest city I've ever been in. The whole way. I was on the little walkie thing, you know, standing there listening to it. She's like, welcome to Boston, the best fucking city in America.

[Ronnie Karam]

It is a pretty good city.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is where you be who you want to be. This is where people who give a fuck live. This is people with a brain. We're people who know how to use a fork and a knife. We do wordle. We can spell. We read here. I was like, damn. I was walking home. I went to see a show about corn last night. It was good. What's it called? Shucked.

[Ronnie Karam]

Shucked.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's called Shucked. They literally had a 10 minute musical number about corn to open it. I was like, what am I doing here? But I was walking home, you know, in the district, and there was even a homeless. I don't think you're allowed to say homeless. Whatever you call it now. He was there and he was like, hey, stop your honking, buddy. This is Liberty Park Square. I was like, ah. Even the homeless people have such a civic duty. Well done.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, well, it is. It is A city of champions. You got the Red Sox, you got the Patriots, you got Boston Rob. So, I mean, look, it's hard. It's hard to deny the resume, you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Know, You've got Ben, who managed to find a gaming podcast to go on and a group to play with all night long. He texted at 2 in the morning.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Thank you to the Heavy Cardboard podcast for having me on last night. I don't think there's too much crossover between the worlds of Real Housewives and board games, but for the three people who enjoyed that crossover moment, you're welcome. Thank you, Heavy Cardboard. Also, by the way, speaking of podcasts, we do have Ash and Alaina from Morbid here. So what's up, Ash and Alaina?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's our girls.

[Ronnie Karam]

We love them. Should listen to their podcast. Yeah, it's just been great. You know what I love about coming to the Boston is leaving that wretched 80 degree Louisiana weather behind. What is happening? I was packing my bags the other night and I was like, okay, let me put on a cute little short slop. I'll pack a cute little short sleeve. Something another. I was like, let me just check what the weather is.27 degrees.

[Ben Mandelker]

The locals don't care, though. I was watching people walk around last night. There was a tank top out there. What the fuck are you doing, queen? Yeah, I think it was meth. Honestly, I think it was meth. Because I got closer. There was like a little like.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was like, yeah, I packed this whole big puffer jacket. But then I kind of felt the shame of the city. Like, I felt like if I put on my puffer jacket when it was.

[Ben Mandelker]

A pussy jacket, they would have been like, puffy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. When it was a balmy 28 degrees on, like, really a puffer jacket? That's a bit excessive.

[Ben Mandelker]

I got spring here. So good. Well, welcome to Watchwood Crabbin. Tonight we're proud to bring you the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. Hot too.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just do us a favor. Do not say lesbian, please. I don't want to get sued.

[Ronnie Karam]

Please don't say something that could hurt my daughters and my family or my dogs. Wait, wait, wait. Oh, my God. Wait. Did you guys see the video of Kyle Richards today? This is so fresh that if you haven't seen it, it's okay. This is like fresh Kyle Richards gossip, but like, the best kind. That's totally inconsequential, which is most of what Kyle Richards does.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's a Kyle's story for sure.

[Ronnie Karam]

There was a lady walking with three little Dogs across the road. And admittedly, this lady's probably a monster because she's also.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's describe the lady, because you haven't. We're recappers, you know. All right, here's the lady. This giant lady. She's got, like, a crazy ponytail, you know, where it's like kind of askew top and then the middle, like, coming out all over. She's dragging these three dogs who look like they've got a week left, Not a one of those. I don't know if she got them all at the same time when the Flintstones were living, but these dogs are close, you know?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she's dragging them so hard. Like, one of them even hits the curb, and she just keeps pulling it until it comes back up. It's just a lady.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's not great, but it's also, like, it's not the worst you've seen with this kind of stuff. And I'm saying this to set up the fact that we really want to be making fun of Kyle Richards in this story.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, you're a dog hater. You're like, drag the dog up the curb. I saw that. I was like, I can't see a dog being mistreated like that. Ben's like, fuck the dog. Get to Kyle. Fast forward to that.

[Ronnie Karam]

So this lady is. She's sort of, like, going across the street with the dog, sort of, like, pulling them because the dogs are being resistant. And Kyle and Teddy are walking, like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Alongside the assistant who supposedly lost all the feelings in her legs when she heard the dorit gossip or whatever that was.

[Ronnie Karam]

So we don't hear what Kyle says, but she says something to this lady, and she points like, you shouldn't be doing that with your dog. And then the footage cuts to the three of them on the sidewalk, and Kyle now has her phone out like a full on Trishell. And she's, like, filming this woman. And this woman starts going off on Kyle. And when I tell you it was the most exhilarating piece of footage of.

[Ben Mandelker]

2025, I'm telling you, it could have been one of you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

This lady was like, what the fuck, you motherfucker. This is Liberty fucking Park, bitch.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, this. This woman is screaming. She takes off like, she has, like, a scarf. She whips it off and throws it on the ground. And she does this thing. She takes her arm, like, and does a point up to the sky thing. And she. She sort of, like, lurches at Kyle, and Kyle goes and hides behind Teddy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kyle hid behind the lady with five fucking cancerous brain tumors hid behind her.

[Ronnie Karam]

And it was amazing because this goes on for like, 90 seconds. And this woman, she just keeps lurching at Kyle and Kyle keeps, like, pivoting away, and it's like they're using Teddy.

[Ben Mandelker]

As a human feel.

[Ronnie Karam]

So, yes, this woman was in the wrong for the way she treated the dogs, but watching her terrorize Kyle Richards was kind of worth it. And I recommend this to watch after our show.

[Ben Mandelker]

Girl, they brought a cop over. The cop was like, lady, you know, he's dealt with her. Probably you, you cow's holding Teddy. Then the lady went to a stoop and sat on the stoop because she got tired and her ass was still like, you bitch. Put a ball gown on that lady and get her in here. Yeah, we need.

[Ronnie Karam]

She was great. She did great work. Great, great work.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, well. Previously on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Pk, you're not calling me back.

[Ronnie Karam]

I've left you, babe.

[Ben Mandelker]

But pk, you weren't in the kitchen this morning. I left out a bag of Pringles and a can of Pringles. It was still sitting there full.

[Ronnie Karam]

I've left you, babe.

[Ben Mandelker]

But pk, how do we have an entire tub of briars in the freezer uneaten?

[Ronnie Karam]

Pk, I've left you, babe.

[Ben Mandelker]

Goys. I think PK has left me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, you know, Kyle is texting with PK Goya.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're texting my husband?

[Ronnie Karam]

Um, it was just jokes and memes.

[Ben Mandelker]

But why isn't he texting meme?

[Ronnie Karam]

He is. He's texting memes.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I know he's texting you, but why isn't he texting meme?

[Ronnie Karam]

Hang in there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Stop being meme to me, Kyle. I can't take it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, ladies, I bought a beach house. I'm so proud of myself.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ladies, after all this meme fighting, I want us to just be sisters. You know, we're sisterhood. Let's just gather around. Let's solve problems like sisters would. Together, we get mad. Let's just stay calm and then solve those problems together.

[Ronnie Karam]

Gee, she's drunk again.

[Ben Mandelker]

Shut your mouth, you poor person. Fight with someone whose wallet fits.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, you think you're bigger than her?

[Ben Mandelker]

I think my wallet is.

[Ronnie Karam]

How can your tiny stick legs hold up such a big wallet?

[Ben Mandelker]

Shut your mouth, you cheese lined wick wanker.

[Ronnie Karam]

Girls, I have an announcement to make. I have a beach house.

[Ben Mandelker]

Booze. I'm really glad you're on the show, but you're standing up for a treat. Like I Did something wrong. It was only memes. Stop yelling at me. I'm being bullied.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hey, don't forget about me. I put wallpaper in my house. And I also finally got a pizza party at Chuck E. Cheese.

[Ben Mandelker]

They say I'm mean to poor people. You're welcome for your pizza party.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hey, guys, who's Chuck, and why does he like cheese so much?

[Ben Mandelker]

Kyle, I know you're having difficulty understanding this large carb with calories melted on top of it, so let me just take this moment to say, we all love you, Kyle. Well, we pretend to like you for TV purposes, and we want you to be you. So if you want to be a lesbian, just be a lesbian.

[Ronnie Karam]

Um, you're not allowed to say lesbian.

[Ben Mandelker]

If you want to be a dick depriver, be a dick depriver. We'll all stand right behind you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Stop saying lesbian.

[Ben Mandelker]

If you want to be a magic carpet rider, call yourself Aladdin, we'll support you.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is not very pro LGBTQ questioning.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wait, one more thing, ladies. I bought a house.

[Ronnie Karam]

I bought a house.

[Ben Mandelker]

Beach house.

[Ronnie Karam]

And scene.

[Ben Mandelker]

Stupid. All right, so we open with part two with the arrival of. Hello, it's me, Jennifer Tilly, and my first Housewives reunion.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's just so great. I mean, like, this show has needed someone just impossibly rich who doesn't give a shit for so long, and she is just doing it for me just.

[Ben Mandelker]

To edit that a little. This show has needed somebody who eats for a long time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

We saw Jennifer Tilly eat more at this reunion than we've seen this cast eat in ten fucking years. Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, Lisa Rinna fainted somewhere watching this.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she comes in and she's like, hello, good day. Good to see you. Do they have donuts here? I could really use some donuts.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, there's some maple bars over there.

[Ben Mandelker]

My favorite. My favorite.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then. Oh, by the way, I have to say, I watched this with the uncensored, uncut or whatever, peacock version, and wow, what a thrill. What a thrill to hear when you hear these ladies curse it. Like, I felt like my heart race. Almost like watching a. A sturdy woman yell at Kyle Richards on the street.

[Ben Mandelker]

A sturdy woman. You can make us change the words, but they mean the same shit, I'll tell you that.

[Ronnie Karam]

She wasn't that sturdy, Actually, in retrospect.

[Ben Mandelker]

She was pretty sturdy.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't know, there was some teetering and tottering, but, you know, she stayed up.

[Ben Mandelker]

I aspire to be that sturdy. So.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she comes in. She's after the maple Bars, you know? And then we go to Garcel's room. Now, Garcel has just been put into a state of shock after being questioned. I don't know how she's made it on this show for five years, honestly, because she's like, they were just so cold. I. I can't stay here. And then Sutton, someone crying. Sutton didn't even get anything. Sutton was the biggest asshole this year, and she got nothing in that reunion. And she's crying. She's like, I want to go home. I want to go home.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, she does live on a main street, and that's, like, very difficult. It's a lot of stress with those cars going by at 25 miles per hour.

[Ben Mandelker]

So you can't trust any of them. Not a one of them. So then we see a flashback to 30 minutes earlier, and Kyle's like, you know, you guys, the two of you, you're mean girls. You're mean girls. Because Kyle was called a mean girl last year and has not been able to let go of it. And I love it. I love that. She's like, you are. That's Kyle's best defense always. And she does it 20 times. And that's. But you are. You are.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we go over to Kathy's dressing room where there's just some random peon just, like, massaging her feet. Just someone off the. This is probably a Starbucks barista. She's like, come with me, come with me. So I'm just literally rubbing her feet there. And they're like.

[Ben Mandelker]

You guys notice he was doing her hair? It was Chris who Dorit never paid. Wow. Wow. Missed opportunity. Get Chris out there.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So he's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Also, when you hear it uncensored. I'm sorry, honey. When you hear it uncensored, you realize what it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Ronnie just clasped my hand when he said that.

[Ben Mandelker]

When you hear the uncensored, you realize what a trashbox Dorit really is. I mean, now listen, I know that you know that I'm the president of the hypocrisy club. I'm a hypocrite. But she's a trashy person. She is. But everything she says, like, when. Motherfucking cutface. God damn Pelosi. Tonk.

[Ronnie Karam]

Listen, we've been saying cut fitness for many years because we want to be respectful, but I have to tell you something. Listening to Dorit be like, she's a fucking c. I'm like, huh? I was like, damn, it was great. Bums was great.

[Ben Mandelker]

So sorry. I was still. I'm still taking it back. So Chris, we're back to Chris and Kathy. So Chris is like, so how are you feeling about today? Are you excited? And Kathy's like, well, yeah, I'm enjoying the chicken. It's very good.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, no. Are you excited about going out onto the stage? Do they have chicken? Where's this conversation going? Could you hand me that olive oil?

[Ronnie Karam]

She thinks she's literally at a luncheon right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

So now lunch break is over. Face time is over, and Andy's like, well, we're back with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. I'm Andy Cohen. We just took a lunch break. I checked on Grindr. A lot of likes today. New profile pic. Doing a lot of things for me and Garcelle. By the way, was there something you wanted to say that was not about your beach house in Oxnard?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, wait, before you answer that, there is a gay person one foot away from me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Andy. Oh. I want everyone here. I want everyone here at the Wilbur Theater to know these may look like water bottles. These are actually crystals. And we put them here to have good energy because we suddenly became into that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I've never cheered harder for Crystal to slap somebody. And there was actually a Crystal on this show.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Garcelle's like, well, what I wanted to say. I've taken half an hour to come up with this retort backstage. Kyle, it feels like you told me things off camera to shut me up. It's like, that's it? That's all you had. Get this woman a gay. Get her a gay. Why does she still have no gays backstage? Get rid of the twig and get some gays.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it's just a good way to live life. By the way, just always have some gays backstage. Whatever backstage means to you, just have some gays.

[Ben Mandelker]

Unless you're gay. We ain't the same to each other as we are to you.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Kyle's like, I told you off camera because it was, like, stuff that I couldn't say on camera because I'm very open and honest. So therefore, there's stuff that has to to be off camera. And I just was, like, trusting and sharing it with you as a test to see if you could be part of our group, and you failed. So that was my way of getting to Know you on a deeper level. Slash testing you.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, well, because it seems like you didn't really understand the question. It seems like Garcelle, you felt a certain way about her telling you some information off camera. Was it about who. She who shall not be named?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes, it was. Is her name Forgen Schlade, perhaps? Is it Morgan Maid? Perhaps? Is it just a big lesbian who was on the show that we all saw and was ridiculous that we're doing this? Absolutely, Andy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, for people at home, you know, they were saying, you know, well, you're on a reality show. You're supposed to. To tell us everything. Kyle, what about that? What do you want to say to that lady at home who you videotaped almost killing a dog on the street?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I. I do want to share everything in my life, which is why I'm proud to say I finally learned how to open up the other French door in my living room.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, how many seasons did I cook salmon on this show? And you accused me of not sharing.

[Ronnie Karam]

I let you see me run after my dogs episode after episode. That was vulnerable for me.

[Ben Mandelker]

But if it's going to hurt somebody I care about, I will not talk about it for a TV show unless.

[Ronnie Karam]

It'S Kim or Kathy or Denise Richards.

[Ben Mandelker]

Or Mauricio, you know, or Storm, because he. Or at least not bend over the tiny pies and the tiny kitchen of the tiny creepy dollhouse in the backyard. Fuck that dog. But everybody else, if it's going to.

[Ronnie Karam]

Affect my daughters, I'm not going to talk about it. But I will shoot a very suggestive music video that will allude to it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I don't see why it's not okay for you to just say, no, I'm not talking about it. Why do you have to be like. But I'm sharing. I'm sharing. Blue. Just say no. No, I'm not talking about it. That's Bose. I love Bose. Bose. Bose is like a judge. She should have just come out in, like, a sequin judge gown because it's like a judge show.

[Ronnie Karam]

Everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

Every answer, just look to Bose. Because Bose is like, no, I don't believe you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Next case. Next.

[Ben Mandelker]

Do not piss on my leg and tell me it's raining, girl.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Kyle's like, well, I could have just said nothing and just zipped my mouth. And like a lot of people do here. Oh, Kyle, don't even act like you are, like, the least secretive, least most honest person here. You are the one who rails people off the show and the music videos and then you don't want to talk about it. I'm sorry. No, I will. I refuse. I reject. I reject Kyle Richards in this episode.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, doritos said. Dorit, you reject. Reject along. Let me hold for rejection from the audience.

[Ronnie Karam]

Thank you. I didn't know where I was going when I started my sentence, but you guys helped me get to the end.

[Ben Mandelker]

Dorit, you said that Kyle has two sets of rules, One for her and one for everybody else.

[Ronnie Karam]

Excuse me. It's a set of rules for people who've been in Halloween and ones who have not been in Halloween. Thank you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Anyway, Dorit, you are. All right. Like, Dorit's the wine. Dorit's the one that acts different with Erica than she does with me. So. Kyle, that's not answering the question. Answer the question, Kyle.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, and she's like, how so? He's like, well, it's just the same thing. Like, you're quick to forgive and, like, let things brush off with Erica, but, like, not for me. I'm like, are we watching the same show? This is literally Kyle Richards talking about herself. She is trying to shovel everything that we've piled onto her onto everyone else, and it's not working with me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I, personally, Kyle, have let more things slide with you than I did letting things slide down PK's throat on our anniversary dinner.

[Ronnie Karam]

Just talking about choco tacos, babe.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Erica's like, well, I know that PTSD coming here today. Cause I thought, well, my God, somebody's gonna come into my dress and show me a text.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is her clunky way of making herself relevant to this discussion. Remember when I saw a text last year? Yeah, so we have.

[Ben Mandelker]

Your PTSD is coming next season after all four of your lawsuits come to fruition. Madame.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, apparently the other news today was that Erica did not show up at her Marco Marco thing. And because I think I didn't read the article. I only read the headline because I am American. And you know what? I follow Kyle Richards lead. I don't know how to read articles. But the implication that according to people on Twitter is that. I guess her excuse was that she was using Teddy Mellencamp as an excuse for why she didn't show up at court.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, wow. So that's not true. Because Teddi would have been at that court. You know, Teddy's messy. It doesn't matter what's going on with Teddi. She would have shown up. She'd been like, oh, shit, Erica's going to court. Finally. I want to see.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's what the people on Twitter were saying. We'll have to look at the actual article. But, you know, I'm. I love spreading information I don't know about to a crowd full of people.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, because that happened. That happened a while ago where she didn't show up, so now she's like, in default or something. And you know who loves that? That Ronald Richardson lawyer guy. He was.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank God jerking off isn't illegal on Twitter because he's all over that, like, oh, Erica, she's in trouble again. Oh, my God.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Erica, in this case, she's. In case you forgot, like, she's referring to the fact that last season at the reunion, Kyle was acting like she and Dorit were not even friends. They'd hung out, like, twice after the show. And so Dorit was pissed, and she showed Erica this text, which was like, Kyle was not. Was not texting with her alt for, like, months and months. And then the night before the reunion, tried to sort of control the narrative by sending her a text, being like, we don't really have to talk about this on the reunion. Let's talk about it privately, you know? So that is what this text message is all about.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, Dorit, you stand by reading the text out loud at the reunion? Let's hear. Well, when Coyle went publicly and said, I exaggerated our friendship, there is no more rules. Rules are fucking. I can do whatever I want. She's lucky I didn't take a goddamn chainsaw to him.

[Ronnie Karam]

It was the straw that broke the camel's back, the pringle that broke PK's head. It just ends with that. It's just two on that list.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, that was the Pringle that broke the camel's back, and that literally happened to us in Morocco one time. But I thought, there's no more rules. And, Kyle, I was only telling you that I'd sent you a text message months before. No response. 2 months?

[Ronnie Karam]

3 months?

[Ben Mandelker]

6. 6. No response? Where is the response, you goddamn motherfucking little shitbag.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it was my birthday. Like, I remember you texted me.

[Ben Mandelker]

That doesn't count. Dorit. How is Dorit acting like, I'm not to stand up for Kyle, but Dorit's like, I sent you a text in new response. I don't have to respond to your happy birthday. That was AI generated. Get the fuck out of here.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's like, well, you didn't respond. I texted you for your birthday. You didn't say anything. And Kyle's like, yeah, but that was right after Watch what happens live. And she's like, yes, but, like, you were so upset about watch what happens live. Were you really, Kyle? She goes, I was. And then we see this flashback of dorit saying, just like, I feel like the closer she got with Morgan, the more distant she became with me, which I don't think is really such a crazy thing to say. And it is quote unquote honest. And of course, Kyle then ices her out.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I mean, that really hurt my feelings because that was a way of getting a dig at me. It was a dig. It was like a dig when you said I wasn't close to you because I was close to Morgan. Like, why don't you just call me a bulldog? Just say bulldog. Just say it. It's like, what, Kyle? The relationship. The question was, how has Kyle's friendship with Morgan affected your friendship with Kyle? And I said, terribly. What's the big deal? It had nothing to do with lesbianism. Please, I don't want to get into people's religious beliefs.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I guess I don't like trying to look at this from, like, a different perspective now that, like, you know, I knew, like, Morgan, like, pulling away from me had nothing to do with you, and I knew that wasn't the case. And, you know, like, that comment just, like, bothered me because, like, it just created, like, another issue. But I do apologize because the audience is mad at me.

[Ben Mandelker]

So to read. Do you think the reason Kyle got mad about those comments is because she got in trouble with Morgan? Morgan's terrifying. Say you think that Morgan's terrifying, Dorit.

[Ronnie Karam]

Go ahead.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's a stalker. She's terrified. Dorit, are you saying that Morgan's a lifetime movie?

[Ronnie Karam]

Are you saying that Lesbian missing coming soon. Well, first of all, she is a captain, and anytime Morgan's name is mentioned, it's in any public forum or any BevMo. I'm sure Carl gets the brunt of it because she's the one who introduced Morgan to all of this, as in people knowing who the hell she was.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you know, I was the one who introduced Morgan to this. You know, it just like, it caused her anxiety. Get the fuck over. You're in your 30s. You don't get to use that. You don't get to show up at work and be like, I have anxiety. You also have work to do.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm kind of like the Jamie lee Curtis to Morgan. Kind of like just shepherd her into fame, and then I'll probably go on to win an oscar someday. So I don't know, like, It's a unique position to be in. You know, when you, you know, in my post bangs era, I realized that I have to carry this responsibility very heavily. Andy. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

I got my vision back after bangs. Andy, like, yeah. And he phrases. Andy goes. But.

[Ronnie Karam]

Andy was good here.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's a public singer. What other fucking. What if he was like. But she's a shower singer. I think that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. I mean, we all love her signature song. She actually can sing really well as a public singer.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let me just tell you this.

[Ronnie Karam]

How come no one wanted me to talk more on camera?

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm a singer, too.

[Ronnie Karam]

What about me?

[Ben Mandelker]

Did you see the other stuff about Erica where that singer who actually wrote Drip, who also seems very unstable. Right. Is it just me? She does, though, Brooke Candy, I think is her name. And she comes on, she's got, like, her little, like, ponytails, like, makeup and piercings everywhere. And she's like, fucking Erica stole my song. And that ain't her song. That's my song. I love to sing on it. That dumb bitch. And then she got to do an opening at Alexa's store and didn't even call me about it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wow. Wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was so good. This drama I can live for because it's another, like, Erica type coming for Erica. Bring her on.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

I want Sturdy Woman with the dogs and Brooke Candy on next year. I need them both on.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And I'd like to ask the sturdy Woman, where's your song? In the background of Enora. She was like, I was in conclave. I was playing the organ. Is there an organ in that? I still haven't seen Conclave. Is there an. Or can we confirm an organ in Conclave?

[Ben Mandelker]

Conclave. I mean, there was organ music. They should have had an organist in Conclave because, you know, that would have been a neurotic queen back there. Like, girl, we going to vote for now, girl.

[Ronnie Karam]

Pat the Pope. Pat the Pope.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Andy's like, yeah, she's a public singer, and, you know, she performs music publicly.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Kyle's like, guys, guys, everyone has a different perspective. And drink goes. But she became a household name. I'm like, okay, she's not Bonnie frickin rate.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And so she's like, yeah, but you guys, like, she has, like, music fans. That's totally different from Housewives fandom. Yes. Not that she's wrong, because, you know, we're terrifying people. You know, every single one of us in here is terrifying. And I have a feeling we all started showing up, especially them. Look at them. They're like, we're Extra terrifying. But, you know, those Morgan concerts now are just housewives. People like, Kyle's here.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why is the audience facing away? Why is the audience facing. Why is everybody looking towards the wings? Kyle's just like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kyle's like, no, don't take a photo of me here at the concert. No. Oh, my God, don't. The last thing I want is to be recognized at the Morgan Wade concert. Oh, no, don't. Don't. Stop it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Meanwhile, you see Kyle's here. She's wearing a gay pride flag, sitting in the middle of the stage and doing.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's tucked under her kemosabi hat. So Andy. But Andy's pissed.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's so much more fun being evil in public, I have to say.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Being evil together.

[Ronnie Karam]

Andy is. But you can see Andy is pissed. Cause he's like, so you brought her on. She benefited entirely from this platform, which they love to say. And then she's just not gonna shoot and not gonna film. We're not gonna have this. So he's going to grill her a little bit.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, but anxiety. She has anxiety. He's like, yeah, she's also selling a lot more tickets because you got housewives out there. So what do you have to say to that? She's like, ah.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right. Well, I guess since Garcel isn't going to say it, I'll say it. Putting a music video out, that's like the two of you as lovers. I mean, even John Hill and I don't do that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Not to say videos don't exist.

[Ronnie Karam]

Because.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, they're on someone's phone. So he's like, that was totally in her hands, you know, so you can have your cake and eat it, too. I was like, nice save.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're not allowed to talk about cake in front of these women. Okay, cake and lesbian off limits.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know what you meant, sir. So Sutton goes, was there cake in that video?

[Ronnie Karam]

And Dorit. Actually, Dorit does kind of try to bail out Kyle. She's like, well, you guys did say, if you guys are going to talk, let's give them something to talk about. Pony Reed reference. Again, speaking of Bonnie Reed speaking. I can't make PK put down the Pringles if he won't.

[Ben Mandelker]

I can't make you love me more than Pringles if you don't.

[Ronnie Karam]

Ladies and gentlemen, boy rave.

[Ben Mandelker]

Take my carbs away. All right, well, what happened was, like, I didn't get in trouble with Morgan, okay? Everyone needs to stop making Morgan and sound like she's Insane. She just has anxiety, all right? And, like, you know, she says it's.

[Ronnie Karam]

Just like the icing on the cake chipping away at me, which I've never felt attacked by icing before, but of.

[Ben Mandelker]

Course, Kyle feels attacked by cake. She's like, the one person that's like, who's made cake, the villain. My cake just coming for me.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, well, Dorit, you said many times you wanted Kyle was. All you wanted from Kyle was more openness and honesty. And Kyle, you seem to want more accountability from Dorit. So did you two get what you were looking for while you were squabbling just now?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I think I was definitely getting it until the whole picky ticks message. Empty motherfucking Coontie. Coontie kun. And I'm sure we're gonna talk about it. He's like, all right, But I feel like it's a work in progress. It's a work in progress with me and Coyle. He's like, all right, we're gonna break. We'll be right back. Okay, we're back. Welcome to the real housewives of Beverly Hills reunion. This is Peacock. You don't have to watch that shit.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, if Kyle and Dorit's friendship wasn't hanging by a thread, Kyle's text, thread. Thread and thread follow with PK revealed. Things aren't always what they meme.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ha ha ha. Or Mim. Everyone's like, shut up, Garcelle.

[Ronnie Karam]

Shut up, Garcelle.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're not in this anymore. We hate you now.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're a Mim girl. So we watch a whole thing of Kyle basically saying, it's just texting. It's just texting memes. Just like, jokes and memes. Jokes and memes. Jokes and memes. Jokes and memes. Jokes and memes. Jokes and memes. Jokes, memes, jokes, memes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Look at this paragraph. Look what I told him in this paragraph. I love you so much, pk. You're so much better than Dorit. She really smells sometimes, but you never do. God, I hate that bitch. So glad we're talking. I'll continue to talk to you. Please keep talking about Dorit. I'll never tell her a thing you say. God is good talking to you. Should we do this over the phone? Let's FaceTime. I want to see your face.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hashtag jokes and memes. So Kyle is like, do you not see? I mean, just wonder. What do you see that when you see that? When you tell Bose she can fuck right off.

[Ben Mandelker]

Whoop, whoop.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sorry. I had a rebound. Whoop after your whoop. She can fuck off girl if she girl.

[Ben Mandelker]

Whoo, whoop, whoop, doop, doop.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm British. She can fuck right off if she thinks I'm going to show her the test. Well, can you just wrap your head around how fucked up that is?

[Ben Mandelker]

Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Turn off Bozo's alarm. First of all, let me back up, okay? That texted PK was not a random text on a Wednesday. Like, by the way, I'm thinking about you, okay? It was because you separated. So I was just. It wasn't like a normal day. I was texting pk. It was at your most.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kyle. We already went over this, Kyle. She goes, I'm not gonna say it again. This is my turn to talk. I'm like, do not steal Heather Dubrow's line. My turn. Still me. She's like, you kept on saying, why didn't you tell me you guys texted and you and I weren't speaking? So. Because we were having like a little fight. I then of course started becoming a confidant to your now estranged husband. I think that's pretty normal.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bloop. Hold on, let me write you back. I'm talking to your bitch wife right now at the reunion. Call me later.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she, Kyle said. Kyle's basically saying, look, it was like you guys announced that you guys were separating. And I just sent him a text that was like, so sorry to hear this. You know, it was like a nice text. That's what she said. And then she goes, we don't even communicate like that. Like, you know that. Cut to flashback to never before seen footage of Kyle sitting with Erica saying, I mean, I don't blindside Dorit with the right opportune moment about stuff about pk because, I mean, PK tells me stuff, okay? I know a lot of stuff.

[Ben Mandelker]

Fucking Kyle. So now they're talking about Chuck E. Cheese. When Erica was like, all these bitches. Nobody cares about me. Where was my fucking pizza party? Where was my pizza party? And her shrank her temporary shrink. Cause you know that's only for filming. And her shrink was like, well, you know, that's. That's not pizza party behavior. It's like, oh, fuck em.

[Ronnie Karam]

The best thing they did this season was go to Chuck E. Cheese. Because Chuck E. Cheese gets referenced so many times this episode. Everything is like, you fucking bitch. When we were at Chuck E. Cheese, you didn't say that. It's like it just gets wedged in there. It's like, oh, you think you're so smart. Well why were you being such a cut fitness at Chuck E. Cheese?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well if you didn't want the text talked about, why did you talk about the text? Peter Piper Pita picker Pepper Piper Piper Sue I'm talking about when you read the text at Chuck E. Cheese by the bye she's like I know what you're talking about. Sandy's like okay, let me ask you this. After Chuck E. Cheese, Kyle did end up reading you the text right? Theres it's where she ended up if you saw Booze's wellness party because she didn't want to and booze said bloop woop girl and it changed. It all changed commercials. Here comes one right now. Thumbtack presents the ins and outs of caring for your home. Out Uncertainties, self doubt, stressing about not knowing where to start in Plans and guides that make it easy to get home projects done. Out Wordart Sorry Live Laugh lovers in knowing what to do, when to do it and who to hire. Start caring for your home with confidence. Download Thumbtack today Craving your next action packed adventure, Audible delivers thrills of every kind on your command. Like Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir where a lone astronaut must save humanity from extinction. Narrated with stunning intensity by Ray Porter. From electrifying suspense and daring quests to spine tingling horror and romance in far off realms, unleash your adventure aside with gripping titles that'll keep you guessing. Discover exclusive Audible originals, hotly anticipated new releases and must listen bestsellers that hook you from the first minute. Because Audible knows there's no greater thrill than the one that speaks to you. Discover what lies beyond the edge of your seat. Start your free 30 day trial at audible.com wonderyus that's audible.com wonderyus.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, all right, all right. Let's get into some questions that I wrote that I'm going to pretend people on Twitter wrote. But before we do that, I just want to shame you a little bit, Kyle, by reminding you that on watch what happens live. We had a very scientific poll and we said, is Kyle Richards the worst? And we actually got 120% said yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Credit unanimous.

[Ronnie Karam]

We said, would you prefer Kyle Richards or tariffs? And everyone chose tariffs.

[Ben Mandelker]

What's worse, terrorism or Kyle Richards? You won. Congratulations. They're like, no, terrorism is too far.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kyle goes, well, of course they would.

[Ben Mandelker]

Say that Kyle hates the audience. I love how much Kyle hates the audience, but she can't imagine a life where her only job is Amazon Live, so she still keeps coming back.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Andy's like, all right, well, is anyone here team Kyle in terms of the text that you heard? But before, do you guys think that was okay? And they all just. Someone in the audience is team Kyle. So anyway, they all look down. They're like, but of course, since it's this show, no one has the balls to be like, yeah, Kyle, you fucked up. They're all just like, well, we can't say anything because it's Kyle. They look down and everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, yeah, Well, I don't think it's that big of a fucking deal. I just think that, you know, they were just talking, you know, how do you talk to people? Who cares? It wasn't about Dorit. It was about the fucking show. Because Kyle KE is saying like, I wasn't texting. I wasn't saying, like, I never shared anything to Dorit. I was saying, I've never shared anything. Meaning this the show? Then why wouldn't you say the show? You didn't know that text was being aired, ma'am.

[Ronnie Karam]

They let the women let Kyle off the hook because Sutton suddenly goes, well, I mean, no one thought it was insidious. I'm like, you thought it was insidious?

[Ben Mandelker]

Who are you talking about? You made this storyline.

[Ronnie Karam]

I haven't.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sutton.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. It's literally like, so they. So Sutton is, of course, you know, she's team Kyle these days, which I really hate for Sutton. Yeah, it's very sad. It's very sad. Real main street energy, so.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Garcelle's like, well, you said, I'll never say anything that you said that makes it feel like it was something else.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I think the thing that is sticking is that you said whether it was production or whatever else, there are secrets. And to me, that's what that sounded like. And I invented secrets, so.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know, but how would you feel if you saw a text from Dorit or Marie's macio saying that he can trust her because she's never repeated anything. It won't. And she's like, well, not until you. Pizza, please. Pizza. Piper. Motherfucker. Dorit's just going off, like, for no reason.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I would totally feel the same way. Yeah. And Dorit's like, but Kyle can. You can still abide by girl code. Why didn't you abide by girl code? She's like, you are.

[Ben Mandelker]

You are. You are.

[Ronnie Karam]

Could somebody sing my song? Girl code. Girl code.

[Ben Mandelker]

Where was your girl code when you read my text for millions of people to see your text? That you were trying to, like, blackmail her into being quiet? At the reunion. Fuck off. That's not the same thing.

[Ronnie Karam]

That is such a shitty thing to do that you're talking with her ex and you're gonna be like, well, that's just as bad as the time I texted her. And you read a text about me arranging lunch on the reunion without my consent.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, no. Kyle wouldn't speak to Dorit and then said she wasn't speaking to Dorit because they were never friends because Dorit didn't exercise. Which, by the way, true story. My favorite fight ever. We couldn't be friends anymore because she doesn't like to exercise. And then she read your text after you tried to be nice to her so she'd be nice to you on the reunion. That's not the same thing, Kyle. So Kyle's like, yeah, I was just so mad it was all over. I just couldn't believe it. And, you know, now she's saying, put me. Put your phone down. Let me look at it. And buzz is like, I said, block him. Let's be clear. I said block pk. Block him. Do it. Now, here's what it sounds like. Here's what I don't want to hear from your phone.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Kyle being a girls girl and a friend for to. Dorit says, well, I can't do that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I wouldn't block pk. PK is the best gossip on this show. PK knows everything on this show. And he's the most heartless person because he hates Everybody. You know, PK's texts are like, what'd that say today? I'm gonna sue her. I'm gonna threaten to sue her on the insta.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now Kyle. I mean, Kyle is so hilarious. She's like, I'm a girl's girls, okay? I come from a family of women, okay? My mother's a woman, okay? I have all daughters, okay? Faye Resnick, famous girls girl, okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

I like all daughters. I order girl scout cookies. We buy tampons. So she's like, yeah. And Dorit's like, well, you're my friend. And if we're as close as you suggest, it depends on the day. But if we're that close, you don't do that coil. You don't take someone's pique.

[Ronnie Karam]

And you're in your confessional saying, PK has been a better friend than Dorita has, which she does.

[Ben Mandelker]

Say I cut to the confessional. Well, to be honest.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, when.

[Ben Mandelker]

Carl makes that face, her eyes, like, crossed like her one wonky eye. It's like, PK's been nicer to me than Doritos.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Kyle says. I mean, well, he checked in on me when we were separated and I was struggling and you and I weren't speaking, and you didn't check in on me, which. Which is actually a fair. Shoots a little point for Kyle and Doritos. Oh, and that makes him a better friend?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, just because he checked in on you while you were getting divorced and I didn't make him a better friend.

[Ben Mandelker]

What do you think about. I mean, I'm sure this, like, episode 90, 97,000. So I'm sure we talked about this, but I think that if it was me in that position, I'd just be say, but I'm friends with PK too. I'm gonna still text him. Sorry.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

What would you do? Well, I mean, boo, it's not really girl code, but she hates durian anyway. I mean, if she's like, I don't like you anyway, I would do what.

[Ronnie Karam]

Garcelle said was like, you know what? I was mad at you. I was talking shit with him with you. But, like, you know, the truth is, you're right, it was shitty of me. I am a girl's girl. And, yeah, I won't do it again. And then it's done. But Kyle's like, no, I'm like, not a mean girl. And I'm like, a girl's girl, which is why all my daughters are trying to get out of the house every time I walk in. And, like, that's why Portia always doesn't take my call when I try to tag along to Sweet Green. Yeah, no, you're right. Kyle just had to be, you know what? Kyle needed to be open and honest.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah. Just be like, I'm friends with both of you. How do I work this? I don't know. Something, but stop lying. So then we see the flashback to Bose's wellness day. I'm having a wellness day to be better than the other wellness day that that skinny idiot had. Let's come in, have one. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Cause Dorit's like, coyle, at that wellness event, you were positively undone. Unglued, unwritten, unwell, unwashed, unfuckable, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we see a clip of that, and Dorit's like, coil. What about the memes?

[Ronnie Karam]

Coil.

[Ben Mandelker]

What about. I like when Dorit uses her little girl from England voice, she's like, coil. What about the memes? And Kyle's like, oh, my God, that means I'm fucking memes. I can't fucking do this fucking out of Here. Fuck you. That.

[Ronnie Karam]

Coyle, Coyle, Coyle, Coyle. Don't leave the wellness.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't leave the wellness.

[Ronnie Karam]

Coil, Coil. Coyle. Did Morgan Wade drive by? Why is she leaving?

[Ben Mandelker]

Just pretend it's still gone because I'm leaving. Could you massage me right here? Just get this part right here.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, so Kyle's like, I did. Oh, also have, like, my version of reaching out to you and, like, trying to be there and texting you, and I tried to be there for you. Oh, my God, my crystal fell.

[Ben Mandelker]

That crystal is trying to run away. Okay. That crystal has never felt so much negative energy. She's like, I'm holding this for pos. Stay here, Mom. Stay here.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God, I spilled my crystal juice.

[Ben Mandelker]

Damn it. This is why I have to have four water bottles here.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they're all. They're like, oh, that's bad juju. And Kyle's like, you know, you walked outside to get me, and I was, like, just doing my version of trying to reach out to you and, like, trying to be there for you. And then when you announce your separation Dorit by texting you. I was, like, trying to text her and everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, hold on. God. Black Girl 97 is going to be out before this is done. She says, I think that Dorit just wanted you to choose her.

[Ronnie Karam]

Has she. Has she been in any movies lately? No, I'm sorry. I can't do that. So Andy's like, bose. Bose said on the hot mic podcast, which is not a bike, Mike Shoehead about discussing Text gate. I don't know. I got. I got overwhelmed. I got excited.

[Ben Mandelker]

I got hot Mike.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's why it's not about him.

[Ben Mandelker]

No one really listens to this. So let's show a host of the. Let's show a picture of the host just to get people enticed. And it cuts to that guy, and.

[Ronnie Karam]

He'S like, yeah, Alex Baskin, who is not related to Robbins.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so he's always so grossed out. He's always like, so. So what do you feel? When they were making fun of your memes? How did you feel about that?

[Ronnie Karam]

So Bose is like, well, I don't know if Kyle knew I thought she was a liar or that I think that she's a liar, but let's make that correct. The girl was lying.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Kyle is terrified of Bose. And I don't really blame her because Bose doesn't even have to stand up to, like, read your ass. Like, she just sits there so calmly, you know, with her gavel. She's like, you're wrong.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So because Bose is smart, Kyle is stupid.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bows can handle Kyle so easily. And Kyle's like, oh, well, okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Send.

[Ben Mandelker]

This crystal over to Bose. I just want to give her a gift. God, I love you, Bose. You're doing great. You're doing great. So, you know, I've never been accused of being a liar, so. Liar. You're accused of being a liar every year. You know why? Cuz you lie a lot. So Bose is like, no lies told.

[Ronnie Karam]

What?

[Ben Mandelker]

What?

[Ronnie Karam]

What was the lie?

[Ben Mandelker]

That's me passing, but all the way down the street.

[Ronnie Karam]

I never lie. I never do. She says, well, in the conversation that I was part of, you said that it was just jokes and memes and later came out, it was more than that. And from my perspective, which was all I was talking about, which is the better perspective. I'd also like to add, they were omissions, and omissions equal lies.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Garcelle's like, well, you could have just said, you know what? I did talk shit about you, but I was mad at you. And Erica goes, yeah, but what if she didn't talk shit like Erica?

[Ronnie Karam]

She literally.

[Ben Mandelker]

Erica's best on this show when she really doesn't have any drama. And she could just sit back and be like, you're dumb. Sentence ugly.

[Ronnie Karam]

I got a wallpaper shipment coming tomorrow, so let's hurry this thing up.

[Ben Mandelker]

But I would never talk shit about Dorit, you know? I mean, like, okay, well, one time, PK came over during the agency party, and Erica goes, hey, don't say it now. You. You've kept it a secret for this long? What are you, fucking idiot? I just said, yeah, but, like, I mean, he came over, and so we had a conversation, you know, And I was like, you know, like, why aren't we speaking? So I told him why we were speaking, like, you're a dumb bitch. You know? I mean, it was no big deal. Like, I said it in meme form, so.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Dorit's like, yes, you were talking shit. You were talking to my husband like, he's on your side, trying to get him onto your side. Just like you were in Chuck E. Cheese trying to get these girls on your side. Direct quote.

[Ben Mandelker]

So have you texted PK since? And she's like, only when Jagger was in the hospital.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, and also, like, we text back and forth about the White Lotus, so there was that too. And we also share, like, a Starbucks account, so there's that. And he came over. I made him, Sam. And I kind of burned it, so there was that, but really just jokes and memes. Just jokes and memes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, here's the thing that bothers me about Coyle Coyle. You think PK is your friend, but guess what? When you talk to pk, he tells me everything. I know every conversation you've ever had with pk. All I have to do is hold a Frito above his head. He speaks every time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, what more do you know that she hasn't told you? That he's told you? Oh, well, just the things that she has reached out to him. After Oceanside, she called him and told him that her and I got into a fight.

[Ben Mandelker]

America goes, oh my God.

[Ronnie Karam]

So you went back. So Kyle Richards, you went back to your room in Oceanside after a fight and called pk. You called PK first?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I had to because, you know, like this whole thing came out about like the text message, the Viper Room and all that stuff. And so I said, you know, there's a huge drama, you know, I think he was with Mauricio. So that makes it okay. And you know, like, whatever. And she goes, oh my God.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kyle is so obviously full of shit that it's like. It's not. I'm beyond actually mad. I just think it's hilarious. Hilarious that she thinks she's pulling the wool over anyone's eyes.

[Ben Mandelker]

And it's also annoying because it just keeps going in a circle. Cuz she won't answer, you know, and then every time they catch her, she's like, you are though.

[Ronnie Karam]

You are. You are.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so here we are, still talking about this. So he's like, okay, I want to move on. Let's talk about memes. It's like, oh no.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, okay, look, you guys aren't getting anywhere. So where do you guys take your friendship? And Kyle's like, well, you know, you are important enough to, you know, make me want to put aside some time for you. I mean, not Michael Myers important, but like pretty important.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I hope that one day we can get together. Just you, me, and our good friend Chuck. New cameras, just us. And a ball machine. Little ball pit. We can lie there together and I can say, I beat you a ski ball, you stupid bitch. And you can apologize to me over a cardboard pizza pie that neither one of us eats.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, well, we got nowhere with that. And it took up 45 minutes of this reunion. So let's bring out Jennifer.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hello, hello. Hi. Hello. Hello, gorgeous lady.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kyle. Kyle drops the crystal again because there's someone who is so wealthy in the room and the envy just has taken over her limbs. She's gone numb from jealousy.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she just goes up to set and like, oh, hello, Sutton. You look like a Disney princess been dehydrated in a dehydrator and just sort of left out in the sun. It looks beautiful.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, well, I want to welcome one of our most decorated friends, the one and only Jennifer Rabbit. Oh, wow. It really makes me sound like I am covered with medals of valor.

[Ben Mandelker]

And how are you, Jennifer Tilly? Are you happy to be at your first reunion? She's like, I'm prepared for anything that comes on me. I'm being.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, Jennifer Tilly basically sailed into this group on a Louis Vuitton boat. Cut to call.

[Ben Mandelker]

Being like, I know. Erica's like, I'm gonna steal that shit. I'm gonna steal that shit real good. There's about to be another robbery in this neighborhood. Bitch. Did you notice how Andy said Louis Vuitton? He's like, well, Jennifer sailed into this group on a Louis Vuitton.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, he did say that.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's so weird. Right? I actually thought, am I just too poor to know how to say it?

[Ronnie Karam]

So we get a whole Jennifer segment, which is truly amazing. It's one of the best montages they've ever put together.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then my favorite part of the whole show is when I get to walk in slow motion. That's one of my special skills.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, you've been nominated for an Oscar. You're a fashion icon. You're a horror icon. You're way richer than Kyle Richards. Sorry, Kyle.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yet your bio just says you're even a better lesbian. And bound.

[Ronnie Karam]

What's this experience been like for you? And I love this because she's so cheery and nice. She has. Well, it's been actually very interesting because I used to get a lot of respect. And people would come over and say, oh, Ms. Tilly, I'm such a huge fan. And they would just, like, run away. But now they're like, scoot over. Let's kiki. Which is rich person for like, what the fuck is going on with these people?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's interesting because I find that more people are terrified of Kyle Richards than they ever were of Chucky.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, it's all glittery and glamorous, and then there's screaming.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's very different to be in it. It's very, very real. Andy, he's like, well, you seem to enjoy. You know, you said, wow, this is a show in Oceanside, and just started eating. And they cut to that. She's like, oh, wow, they're really fire.

[Ronnie Karam]

We had a whole bag of M and Ms. Backstage. We could have brought out for this. So to read his. So then Andy's asking about the Louis Vuitton bag, and he's like, so tell me about that bag. That was cool af. And she's like, oh, well, it was designed by Pharrell, the singer. And I have a special relationship with my Louis Vuitton person. And a lot of people have. Have a drug dealer, I have a bag dealer. And she's calling me and we're getting special edition shipment. And so it's like, it's a very rare bag, so you have to know when they did it, you know, Then they should put like a chiron up. Where they put the chiron up and said, 33 minutes, $33,000. I said, did I pay $33,000? It was a lot of money. Kyle Richards so angry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kyle's tongue was a tonguing. She was like.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, the only phone call I get is from Faye Resink to say she got a coupon to Maggiano's Little Italy.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she's like, oh, yeah, you know, I just. I have no idea. I was such a show off. That was rough. She was wearing, like, 10 fingers on each ring, five bracelets. Like, girl, that new money. And I love that she knows it too. She's just like, I accidentally got rich to buy fucking an ugly guy for a while, and now I just wear it all over me. Andy.

[Ronnie Karam]

They. They point out that she's wearing one of the most important pieces of American jewelry ever. Kyle Richards. She's like, well, I did. I won a candy necklace at Chuck E. Cheese.

[Ben Mandelker]

So it's so special. Cole Porter commissioned it from jeweler Flatow for his wife, Linda Lee Porter, who was a famous fashionista. And so once it came up and I was too poor to buy it, so then I got rich, and then I bought it. This is rich. I went back in there and I said, I'm rich. Now give me the cold party piece, bitch.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wow. So the Simpsons checks are more than seven figures a year, huh? She's like, I cannot say as, like, her bag falls over and 10, like, diamonds fall out. She's the only one who has, like, a non CGI diamond in the opening credits. I just brought mine from home.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're all just gonna be surrounding her next year, trying to hold up her diamond. So Andy's like, I just want anyone getting ideas to know that you keep all of your jewelry at the bank because you're not a burglar or an idiot like Dori.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was robbed, too, so. Well, you did a pretty good job. Bling. Switzerland. That's where my bank is. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

My favorite. It's my favorite cheese, and it's got so many holes.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sort of like Erica's alibi. Right about where she got the wallpaper. God, you guys are so.

[Ben Mandelker]

But on the after show, you did throw in a couple digs. Cause I was a little snarky. It's what you get when your purse is so heavy all the time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Jennifer Tilly has my favorite kind of shade. When you're so rich, you don't even realize you're being shady. And they're talking about PK and she's like, oh, Dorit was saying that he's staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel, and I'm like, I don't know how we can afford it. That's an expensive hotel. I don't know how we can even afford the Holiday Inn either.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, well, I want to do a preemptive apology. So, Reeve, I know that that must have upset you, and, you know, but it is very expensive, and I thought he was in a bungalow, which is $25,000 a night. So bad as much as my neck at the moment, so I didn't think you could afford it. That's what I said. That was tacky of me. You should never criticize poor people in front of them. Right, Sutton?

[Ronnie Karam]

And so Dorit is pissed off, but because Jennifer is so wealthy and she's already pre famous, she has to kiss her ass. So she's like, oh, well, I have adored you since the moment I met you, and I love the way you stand up for Sutton all the time. You're a great addition to this group. I'm not mad at all that you shamed how much money PK has, and I would never get mad at such things.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I didn't mean to impugn you, Susan.

[Ronnie Karam]

Can we pause for a. Can we look up that word impugn? Is that, like, puny? You gonna put us in a puny? Is she talking about my house? Does she know how to open French doors?

[Ben Mandelker]

She just confused Dorit into agreeing with her, and so she's like, well, I'm sorry. I meant to the dark. More like the witches of East Wicked.

[Ronnie Karam]

Cher, Michelle Pfeiffer. I don't know. That does not sound like the dark side to me. That's the side I've always wanted to be on.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's the side this show needs. So she's like, well, I have a big mouth. And I didn't even know I said something bad until Garcelle said. Exclaimed, whoa.

[Ronnie Karam]

Garcelle said she had a house in Oxford, Snob. And I realized, oh, that's right. Not everyone is as wealthy as I am.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Andy's like, okay, we're gonna take a break now. I'm gonna go through these cards, see if there's any more lesbian comments. And Jennifer just. She's got candy in her mouth. And she just goes to Garcelle. So do you think that statin is on anxiety medication? What's wrong with. Meanwhile, this should be Sutton's reunion. Dorit is running away with this reunion. She won't shut up. And Sutton's just sitting there with those little eyes squinting, like, glimmering her little cat eyes.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Jennifer says, do you think she's on medication? And Garcelle goes, we're miked. She's like, got it. Don't know what that means, but I'll eat a loud chip into it.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, we're back. And now I want to introduce my favorite Hilton sister, Kathy Hilton.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hi. Hi. Hi. Hello, everyone. Hi. Hi. Wow. Got a real big kick out of you at Sutton's fashion show. And we see the footage of Kathy on the Runway, and the model being like, out of my way, bitch.

[Ben Mandelker]

By the way, you look like you're floating. Oh, you look. Who can put me down? Chris, put me down. Chris just comes out from under a caftan like, okay, it was just fun. Pay me, dorit. Pay me.

[Ronnie Karam]

So how does it be? How does it feel to be called fashion roadkill? And she goes, oh, well, you know, I just thought. I was just saying hi to Mrs. Girardi. And Erica's like, I'm Mrs. Girardi, but that's okay. Oh, well, then Mrs. Jane. I'm Ms. Jane. Oh, what's her last name?

[Ben Mandelker]

Who fucking even knows it's up for sale at this point, Am I right? Sandy's like, look, Kathy, you've been called fashion roadkill. She goes, I know. Kyle wouldn't speak to me for a week. It was just another title I stole from her. So sorry, Kyle.

[Ronnie Karam]

Roadkill by Shahida and the alien too.

[Ben Mandelker]

So I love that we still never learned Erika James real last name. She's like, I'm not giving it up.

[Ronnie Karam]

She'll give up her middle name first. Because they're like, well, what's your middle name? She's like, ah, it's real country. They're like, what is it? She's like, well, My mother's name is Renee, and my dad used to call her Neigh Nae. So I'm Erica Ney. Which, by the way, she's so embarrassed about it. You know that Ney sounds just like Jane, right? Like Jade. She's like, oh, it's so embarrassing. It's a monosyllabic word that sounds like a.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, Kathy, I know that you have an uncanny ability to extract gossip from tea, that these women in a way that no one else seems to be able to. What's your secret? She's like, how do you get tea out of people? Have I done that on this show? Could you give me an example? And he's like, okay, okay. Well, at lunch, at your house, you did a good job. And she's like, I don't generally eat lunch at my house. Oh, for Christ's sake. Can we roll a clip, girl?

[Ronnie Karam]

You said you were Chinese. That was hysterical. Saka's like, am I Chinese? Am I a celebrity in China? Is there a tariff on me?

[Ben Mandelker]

Kyle's got a special skill, finally, for her resume.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, guys, my iOS has just been updated. I'm Chinese.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, here's what happened. I was at a couture show at the Max Mara. You know, Max Mara? And someone's like, where was it? The castle? Yeah, it was in the castle. And Kyle goes, wait, did you do a test? Like, is it a psychic? Did you meet someone who did your DNA? She goes, no, it's a psychic. And Eric goes, it's a psychic from Venice.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kyle's like, please help me understand this. So Andy's like, okay, so in Venice, Italy, you found out you were Asian. And by the way, they just kind of keep cutting quietly over to Jennifer. And Jennifer's looking like. So Kyle's like, are we Chinese or are we not Chinese? I need to know. This is gonna impact how I order food.

[Ben Mandelker]

So it's a totally different salmon preparation. I need to know.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Kathy's like, whoa, there was a lady there. And she said, what's your name? And I said, kathy Hilton. She said, what's your background? I said, rich. And then she said. I said, actually, I'm part Northern Italian. And she asked me my birth name, and I told her what it is. She looked it up, and it turns out 25,000 years ago, I was Chinese.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, cut to the chase. And 3,000 years. 3,000. She was fucking Chinese. All right, let's get this bitch off the stage. So she's like, so then I got a book. And he was like, you Got a book? Where'd you look up a book? She goes, on my phone. Oh, so you Google it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kathy goes, she definitely didn't know anything about me. No. No one has ever heard of Kathy Hilton or Hilton properties ever before.

[Ben Mandelker]

Jennifer Tilly discussed, obviously, so. And he's like, yeah. So she said you were Asian. You know, in Beverly Hills, the women are usually quite filtered. But you came right out and said Mauricio aged badly.

[Ronnie Karam]

And you also said BK looked 56 a decade ago.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, what? I meant it as a compliment.

[Ronnie Karam]

You also thought his name was pj. You thought he was a tree from a cartoon. And you also have no idea where you are at this very moment.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you know, it was a compliment about PJ because, you know, when I met him, he was just fat. He was a fat person. And then, you know, he lost weight. And so the next time I saw him, he looked like. You know when babies come out of your surrogate? And they were like, really? Just small and shrively and kind of bald. That's what I meant.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Pj. It's like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without the butter. That's pk.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why is PJ eating himself? You know, these are the questions Chinese people ask.

[Ronnie Karam]

Just, like, in bed.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Kathy. So she just confounds everybody. Everybody's just like, what the is this? How long she have to stay out here?

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, well, you know, I just thought he looked more older. Yes. More older. When he had the weight on him, he looked more older, and he looked more sophisticated. I don't think sophisticated is a word that's ever been used with PK at any size, age, length, or height.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Erica was asked on Watch what Happens Live, the biggest controversy starter in the world, who in this group is most guilty of sucking up to Kathy Hilton? And Erica's like, sentence track fucking followed closely by Garcelle. So then we come back, and Andy asks if they suck up to Kathy, and she's like, no. And Garcelle says, okay. Can we ask Erica? Erica, I thought about this on Backstage. I just wanted to ask you this based on what?

[Ronnie Karam]

Based on my motherfucking opinion. I was asked a shady question. I gave a shitty answer. It's Watch rabbits live.

[Ben Mandelker]

Shady's fun, right? It was shady. It was fun. It was just fun. Oh, yeah? Yeah. It's not like I sat around thinking about it. Who kisses Kathy's ass the most? I just said it. Fuck it. I'll say whatever the fuck I want. How about that?

[Ronnie Karam]

I would like to say something in my defense. Kathy and I are very good friends. We talk as friends. I do not kiss her butt. I just do exactly what she says.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then I apologize when she gets upset. Right, Kathy, tell them the part. I apologize. She apologized. And I said. When she apologized again, I said, por favor, necessito mas informacion. I'm telling you, none of these people are bilingual. Andy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, but didn't you like, faint last year when Kathy came onto the set? Well, yes. Well, yeah. Well, you know what? I fainted because my wallet was so big and it knocked me over and I just had a terrible case of bronchitis and I needed to go to the hospital. And Kathy came out and I had this hallucination that my mom was following her. And I said, no way. No way. Nuh. Not Gong ho.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So basically what happened? Sutton? Sutton got in a fight with Kathy. Well, not a fight, but she got yelled at because she wouldn't take sides. Like Kathy was versus. Who was it? I mean, she was versus Kyle. But who was it? Erica, right? It was. Was Rinna. I forgot. This show wipes my brain. I don't know how the husband's even doing it tonight. So she's like, you're not on my side, then fuck you. You're like, damn, I want to hear that side of Kathy. You know, when she tells somebody. I know.

[Ronnie Karam]

I do want to see Kathy losing her mind. Because we all know it's there because everyone talks about it and she's like, well, you know, I did say some choice words. I'm ready. I think we're all ready. I don't care what she says. We'll make it a safe space for her to lose her mind.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, it didn't take long for Sutton's ribbon ceremony about sisterhood to unravel into weaponized wallets and watermelon cocktails and Bose goes, let's take a look.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sutton, what was your goal in doing? Well, we see this whole thing, the sudden disaster.

[Ben Mandelker]

So it's like 10 minutes of Sutton just being crazy, which I loved. This reunion, needed more Sutton. And listen, I don't. I'm not against telling people they can't take drugs. You know me, I'm like, take more drugs. Most of us need it. We're Americans. If you're not medicated right now, you don't believe in self care. Do yourself a favor. We've got a whole plethora. Take something. So I'm never going to tell somebody to not take drugs, but they should not allow Sutton to take Drugs. What the is Sutton doing? She's like a dead fish up here. She's just like, sutton, yell at somebody. You're not here to look pretty.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, Sutton, what was your goal in doing that ceremony? Well, I just felt like we were all so disjointed, and I wanted to bring us back together and, like, this way, like, let's have. If we have an. Let's get an angry moment, we can apologize and still remain friends. Unless I'm the one who gets angry, which I'll probably do right after I do that ceremony, which is what I did do, in fact. Then I won't apologize, and I'll be angry the rest the season.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, well, Hema from ROYD says Dorit called someone a C word, but when Sutton said her misdirected anger was too low. Okay, so.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Garcelle, do you think Bose overreacted to Sutton's comment? And Garcelle's like, yes, yes, I do.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, how is it overreacting? You said the words to hurt. She goes, no, I didn't. I did not say it with an intent to hurt. How dare you.

[Ronnie Karam]

You chose your words, and that was the intention. I think the challenge I'm having with these conversations is that if you can't take accountability for your action, you gotta say, blub, blub, bloop. And I said the thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

You gotta just say, I said this thing. I meant it, and you can forget it. But instead you say, well, she was yelling at everyone. She was. Oh, God, now I'm yelling at people, you fucking monstrous shit brain.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, sisterhood, sharing difficult moments in your life. You know, the first time Dorit opened up to the group about jackery, suddenly you kind of abruptly interrupted her. And then we see, you know, Dorit being like, guys, the other day, I put up something on Instagram about us divorcing. And the next. The next day, Jagger said, are you getting divorced? And I said, how did you find out about that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Children don't know how to read the gram. Everybody knows that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Speaking of which, I then bought some graham crackers, and PK walked right in the door, and I said, see? Daddy's home.

[Ben Mandelker]

I like when they showed this dorit. They showed this clip of Dorit going, camille, you're a fookenkunt. And that's it. Hey, you just said you just called me a kunt, and. No, I didn't. I called you a fucking kunt.

[Ronnie Karam]

A stupid one at that, too. So she's. So Dorit's going on and on and on and On. And then Sutton, who, as we learn, has been told by the producers to interrupt her, she goes, well on that. No, we gotta go. Gongo and go.

[Ben Mandelker]

I am gon go. So then Sutton, he's like, well, don't you think it was rude when Dorit was telling that whole sad story about Jagger learning to read the Internet that you interrupted for the ladies to go to Garcelle's new house? Garcelle, do you have something to say? I have a house. I built a house. I'm very proud of it. No, Sounds like. Well, we were there for a long time, and production said, sutton, go down there and tell them it's time to leave. So I did. So I did. What do you want me to do about it?

[Ronnie Karam]

But why couldn't you just said, excuse me, I'm sorry to interrupt. We have to get on the road.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, well, I'm sorry that I didn't know how to do that, Dorit.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, you were miss Manners. I thought you were Lady Maneville.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm not miss Manners. I'm not Miss Manners. Don't do that.

[Ronnie Karam]

You are.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't do that.

[Ronnie Karam]

You are.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm gonna go.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're a country manor lady.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, what have you said? I know, it's terribly awkward. Mount Kuster Reit never shuts the up. Okay, all we need to do is watch this reunion. It has been. Dorit, just say, we gotta go. That's what you do with people like Dorit. You go, oh, we gotta go. We gotta go finish this in the car. Finish it in the car. You can still cry in the car.

[Ronnie Karam]

Cindere's like the person. The person that was in this season who was so vicious, you know, with the beady stare that you want to really go low.

[Ben Mandelker]

Where.

[Ronnie Karam]

Where is she? She didn't come today. She didn't come today. Sutton, where is she? Are you in there?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, where's the person that calls everyone the C word? Oh, you couldn't. She's right here. She's right here.

[Ronnie Karam]

She is like, I'm here. I'm here. I showed up. Well, that brings us to Sutton's wallet comment that Garcelle couldn't even support.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

It was. It was actually a pretty light dig, but on this cast, it was the worst thing anyone could have ever said.

[Ben Mandelker]

Garcelle, I hear you have a monologue to present about this. Wow. All right.

[Ronnie Karam]

I thought it was a terrible, terrible comment. I was like. I was shocked. Look at me. Girlsgirl.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then what about the confessionals? After that, she doubled down. She tripled Down. She five toppled. Sex toppled. Contipled Down.

[Ronnie Karam]

Did you say contipled down?

[Ben Mandelker]

I thought it was disgusting. It was absolutely disgusting, Andy.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, we talked about it the other night, and, you know, she said to me, like, I'm not proud of that. And I said, you shouldn't be. Like, you're talking about Kyle's bangs, aren't you? Yeah, isn't that worth discussing?

[Ben Mandelker]

But then you did a confessional, and you called me an alcoholic. Like, well, the only thing your wallet bought you was a house and not a date. I could have said that. She goes, well, you did say that. And that wouldn't ask either. Well, do you think you deserved it? Do you think you deserved it? And meanwhile, Jennifer Tilly fully unwrapping food and just, you know.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then Dorit gives my favorite line where she goes, well, you don't exactly live like the queen of Sheba. You live on a main road.

[Ben Mandelker]

Big words from somebody who's literally about to live on one. I know. No, but also, have you guys ever driven through Bel Air? Like, have you ever gone on, like, a tour? There is no main road. That's embarrassing to live on in Belair, I'll tell you that. You walk, you go up the main roads, and they're all gated homes that you can't even see into.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So you're not going to find a sturdy lady walking three dogs on those roads.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's no Encino.

[Ronnie Karam]

I know. There's no caveman there.

[Ben Mandelker]

So wait, now we're main road in Bel Air? Shaming. This is good. This is good. This is why people watch this show. Well, I wouldn't want to live on a fucking main road. I'm quite happy where I am. My life is full. Full of love. Your closet ain't. We saw that about two weeks ago, and it was empty.

[Ronnie Karam]

There's a hell of a lot more to a big bank account. A hell of a lot more, Sutton. But you have to be nicer in order to get love. You are a loveless, loveless person.

[Ben Mandelker]

You don't have to be nice to get love. Look at me.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's right. You could also be a terrible tennis player. So Sutton's like, dorit, I do not need you to tell me there is more to life than a big bank account. Of course I know that. What's more to life is an even bigger bank account.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you don't. You're not superior to anyone. You certainly behave like it. And you know what? You're used to buying people and gifts to. Tote around. But Sutton, there's more. You brought us purses. Oh, thank you, Sutton. Thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

Weren't you the one who wanted to take her purse?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, because we find out today in the news, I guess from clips from next week, we find out Sutton gives them all $1,500 purses. And you know, Dorit didn't turn that down. Like, oh, thank you, I'll take it.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's like getting like trinkets at the dollar store for Jennifer. She's like, oh, cute.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Sutton's like, well, who did I buy, Dorit? Name one person. And Erica's like, ha ha, Shit's hilarious.

[Ronnie Karam]

What in the world are you talking about That I buy people who have tried to buy honey.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, here she comes, Beady eyed little Sutton. Here she comes coming round the mountain when she comes. Here she's coming around the mountain when she comes.

[Ronnie Karam]

You stop that. You stop that right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, she is just like pushing her into. Sutton is drugged, I think that is. She's tranquilized. And she's like, I will not kill this. Do not kill this. Do not call her poor. Do not call her poor. No bank, no skank of America jokes today. I will keep it. So finally she gets there and she's like, good job, bully, bully. And meanwhile it just cuts to Jennifer and she's like, this is terrible.

[Ronnie Karam]

Just how we all were. And that was Beverly Hills.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you so much.

[Ronnie Karam]

Thank you Boston, for coming tonight.

[Ben Mandelker]

Boston. We love you, boss.

[Ronnie Karam]

Love you all.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

Or rather, it was stolen from me, and the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes and politics. I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again.

[Ben Mandelker]

So I think listeners can expect me.

[Ronnie Karam]

To be chatting with folks both recognizable and unrecognizable names about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaiming and feel like they filled their tank up, they connected with the people that I'm talking to.

[Ben Mandelker]

And leave with maybe some nuggets that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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