#2812 Below Deck Down Under S03E12: Because I Said Sous

Summary

Watch What Crappens - Episode #2812: Below Deck Down Under S03E12: Because I Said Sous

Host: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: April 22, 2025
Podcast: Wondery

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Introduction

In the twelfth episode of Season 3 of Below Deck Down Under, titled "Because I Said Sous," tensions aboard the yacht escalate as the crew navigates both personal conflicts and demanding guest expectations. Hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive deep into the episode's drama, dissecting every twist and turn with their signature humor and sharp insights.

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Morning Preparations and Rising Tensions

The episode opens bright and early at [05:34], showcasing the crew's preparation for the day. Alicia's distracted demeanor, caught up in her texting with Johnny ([00:00]-[07:07]), sets the tone for the underlying tensions.

Ronnie Carroll [05:34]: "Alicia's a bit distracted because I guess she's love struck... she's being a little slow."

As the crew gears up, Zarina's frustration becomes evident while managing service preparations, particularly with Alicia's lack of focus.

Ben Mandelker [07:07]: "Zarina is telling Marina to come for service... Alicia's been brought over to the dark side."

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Approaching Storm and Leadership Challenges

At [08:51], Captain Jason announces an incoming storm. However, unlike previous seasons where a storm would galvanize the crew, Jason remains unusually calm, sparking debates about his leadership style.

Ronnie Carroll [08:58]: "It's like a full-on storm, but he's acting like it's just a buoy."

This relaxed approach leads Zarina to question Laura's leadership, especially regarding delegation and trust within the team.

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The Picnic Setup and Service Struggles

The crew is tasked with setting up a picnic amidst the storm's backdrop ([09:54]-[15:06]). Laura's insistence on having Marina handle service solo highlights a growing rift.

Ronnie Carroll [15:06]: "Serena's mean at the back of the galley, just watch this interaction."

Marina's dedication shines as she strives to prove her worth, while Zarina becomes increasingly antagonistic towards Alicia, seeing her as an extension of Laura's control.

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Nick's Confession and Captain's Response

A pivotal moment occurs when Nick admits to Captain Jason that he took a shot during entertainment duty ([33:49]-[34:47]). His honesty is met with unexpected leniency.

Nick [34:24]: "Please throw me overboard and feed me to the sharks, I understand."

Captain Jason: "I'm not going to do it again... keep your job."

This confession adds layers to the crew dynamics, showcasing the captain's approach to discipline and trust.

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Dinner Drama and Tip Meeting

As the day progresses, the tension culminates during dinner ([61:02]-[66:23]). Serena's dissatisfaction with the service plates leads to a heated exchange, underlining the fragile relationships aboard.

Ben Mandelker [61:02]: "Why was Laura so mean to Serena?"

During the tip meeting, Captain Jason reflects on the crew's dynamics, hinting at potential conflicts in future charters.

Captain Jason [66:23]: "We got a lot of tension and passive aggression... we're probably going to sink on the next charter."

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Resolution and Lingering Conflicts

The episode wraps up with partial resolutions; Zarina begins to recognize her passive aggression, and Alicia makes strides in addressing her feelings with Serena ([81:16]-[83:35]).

Ronnie Carroll [83:35]: "This is the point where I get too angry about somebody on Below Deck..."

Despite these moments, underlying issues remain unresolved, setting the stage for future episodes and continued drama.

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Notable Quotes

• Ronnie Carroll [05:34]: "Alicia's a bit distracted because I guess she's love struck... she's being a little slow."

• Ben Mandelker [07:07]: "Zarina is telling Marina to come for service... Alicia's been brought over to the dark side."

• Ronnie Carroll [08:58]: "It's like a full-on storm, but he's acting like it's just a buoy."

• Nick [34:24]: "Please throw me overboard and feed me to the sharks, I understand."

• Captain Jason [66:23]: "We got a lot of tension and passive aggression... we're probably going to sink on the next charter."

• Ronnie Carroll [83:35]: "This is the point where I get too angry about somebody on Below Deck..."

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Conclusion

Episode #2812 of Below Deck Down Under delves into the complexities of leadership, trust, and personal relationships aboard a luxury yacht. As tensions rise and conflicts emerge, the crew must navigate not only the physical challenges of a storm but also the emotional turbulence within. Hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam provide a captivating and insightful analysis, making this episode a standout in the season.

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Transcript

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Carroll]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Carroll]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Carroll]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Carroll]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Carroll]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Carroll]

Well, hello.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hello, hello. It's below deck day. Are you excited?

[Ronnie Carroll]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Carroll]

Do it.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's it. That's it.

[Ronnie Carroll]

That's all I have to say, buddy. Nice work.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Ronnie Carroll]

All right, here we are with a little below deck down under. Or if you shorten it to BDDU is so that's too many D's. So here we are, it's the second day of charter. It's at 6:57am so we know things are very dramatic because it starts on a seven and the crew is getting prepped and Alicia's texting Johnn and it's interesting because he's got such emotion that she can text him and then she can hear his response as like a slow beating of the cabinets.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Morse. Is that Morse code? It's like. It's like. What does that mean? Siri, tell me what this Morse code means. It's like it says, sh, sh, sh, sh. I have so much emotion for you, I cannot handle it.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're beautiful. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Yeah. So she's still texting with him and people are. People getting ready for the day. And Serena is asking her to get some cream cheese and salmon out. And Alicia is, like, a bit distracted because I guess she's love struck. And she said that Johnny's not there. But also she sort of has her head in the clouds most of the season anyway, so she's being a little slow. And you can see Zarina's getting mad. She's like, all right, so you can put up that salmon. And she's like, yeah, but what? Platter shopping, John. The same one we use every morning. Alicia, have you had your coffee? Please tell me you've had your coffee.

[Ronnie Carroll]

But what would you want the fruit platter on the same flutter as you use every. God damn. I'm starting to see where your sister was coming from, I've got to say.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, seriously. So then Laura is struggling coming in and out on the deck because the doors are not working. I mean, Lara, I guess. And then Adair is like, good morning. And.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Nick.

[Ben Mandelker]

Nick is saying he's going to help with the slide and everything. And I love Nick. Nick is so great. I love his. I love. I love the hot nerdy thing. It's great. Great combo.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah, he's gonna get the slide. And it's like, all we need to do is the slide. The naughty boy get the swim ladder in. What time does he get to bed, by the way? Nick? And he says, six thirty. He's like, oh, God, looks like everyone ate a lot of fun, didn't they? Didn't I? And then we see a flashback of Nikita telling Nick he has to take a shot. So Nick has, like, hot nerd guilt. He's just walking around like, oh, God, what do I say about this? This is gonna be absolutely humiliating to mommy and Daddy, but I've got to do it. I must confess. I must confess.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, he's in a real quandary here. He's like, well, I know that Captain Jason drinking on tartar is an absolute no. There's a reality where I just don't bring it up and I leave it in the past and I try to do better. But it's not the right way to go about it. Oh, I'll tell you what would have.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Happened if there were not TV cameras around. He would have murdered that girl who saw him. What's her face? He's like, we have to talk about this, Bri. He would have murdered her. Because you know that look she gave him when she was taking, he was taking the shot was like wide eyed, like, oh, no, he's taking a shot. I must communicate. This boom. That shot right there meant you're dead. Like if this was a Lifetime movie, she would have been over the side of that boat for two seconds. But it's not, so she got to live. Yay. So it's 9:11am Too soon and the guests are waking up for breakfast. And Jason's like, all right, everybody, storms coming in, storms coming in. Watch out, big storm coming in. Jason looks very bored this whole season. I mean, you've got a storm. I feel like Captain Sandy would have everybody awake. She'd have Ike Mike and his cousin Larry up. She'd have everybody like, guys, guys, wind, wind, wind, wind. Everybody gather around the big screen in the bridge. Wind is coming.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I mean, it's like a full on storm. He's acting like it's just like a buoy. They saw a buoy in the water. It says storm. That's scary.

[Ronnie Carroll]

It's dangerous flying around outside. Helen Hunts flying in front of the boat. Whatever, everybody, it's just Gava.

[Ben Mandelker]

There was a wide shot of that storm. It was like a, like this wall of storm that was just coming towards the boat. I was like, why is no one panicked right now? This is very scary.

[Ronnie Carroll]

It wasn't.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, just deep, deep thoughts. So Zarina is asked, telling Lisa to clean something and then she tells Marina.

[Ronnie Carroll]

She radios Marina to come for service. And this is actually a smart thing. I think Laura's still an. She becomes more of an today. But this is a smart thing in never giving somebody what they want. Because once you do give them what they want, they act like, oh, my God, I'm so lucky. She's like, marina, Marina, can you come help with service? She's like, oh, yeah, let's do this. We're doing service today. I'm service. Yeah, yeah. Like she wants to go to work now so bad because she gets the chance to put the forks out.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, the big fork placement moment. So meanwhile, Lara is talking to Adair about they're, they're going to like a rum tasting later. And so she's sort of arranging it with Adair that she, Laura and Adair are gonna go and then, you know, do galleys. She's arranging that, the whole day day's plan. And Jason's like, so who in the interior is going? And she's like, well, it's just gonna be me and Adair and Sheffy probably. He's like, well, why can't you put Marina in charge? And she goes, well, she can't do service on her own. And then it cuts to Marina literally doing service on her own, serving breakfast. Like, can I help anyone here?

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah, especially when it's the picnic. Like, it's literally uncovering salads and letting people serve themselves. I mean, Laura. So she's like, well, you know, she's never done it on her own. I mean, she's very good at housekeeping, turns out, which is a nice surprise, but how much can we push that? You know, she'll have a nervous breakdown any moment. I see it coming. And he's like, well, you know, we don't want to change it up because it works so well. I know, but mix it up anyway. Do it anyway. She goes, oh, God. Just if maybe. I just thought maybe it's not as formal as I thought, you know, so maybe she can handle it because, you know, formal, if she doesn't have blonde hair, you know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Carroll]

But on all the makeup that I require, I saw a theory in the comments, which is where I'm getting that that someone was like, I think that she doesn't want her up there because she doesn't, like, do, like, put her hair back and in makeup every day. I thought. I never saw that coming. But maybe it is like a Fae thing, because, remember, Faye was like that on Below Deck. Great Adventure or whatever, where she's like, yeah. All right, girls, here's what I believe in service, hairspray and lipstick.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I mean, the truth is that Lara. You touched on it right there. But, like, Lara is kindest to anyone who has blonde hair. And, like, anyone who does not have blonde hair, AKA Marina and Zarina. So it's a. It's a. It's a dual theory. You have to have blonde hair. And also, if your last name ends with Ina, she's, like, not gonna. She's not gonna mess with you.

[Ronnie Carroll]

So Jason tells us, Laura's such a great leader, but it's also. Being a leader is also letting people strive and grow. As you might notice, I'm letting the storm grow right outside right now. So this is, you know, just a picnic setup. You know, some really could handle it. But she's still not trusting of that. So what do you mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

You can't tell me. I'm sorry. You can't tell me that the captain of any boat cares about whether or not Marina is on service. Like, this is purely a. Like, production was like, you have to advocate for this because it's the storyline that we're pushing. I don't think any captain cares how the chief Stew delegates her staff. I think most captains are like, well, put them in the positions that you think are strongest, and then, like, I leave it up to you. So the fact that he's getting involved in this does not. Like, it does not ring true to me.

[Ronnie Carroll]

It does to me, and here's why. Because I think it's the halfway point of the season or it's below deck, so it could be the quarter point. No, no. Never knowing how many episodes they'll have in a season. But he's. It's to the point of the season where he's starting to see things that are glaringly obvious. Like, one, he saw Vihan way too late, and I think he's like, okay, well, maybe I should have seen that sooner. And he's also seeing that things are still not completely peaceful there. And I think he's realizing, like, the audience is. Is that Laura's just an. And I think he's like, that's not cool. Like, you had me not liking this Marina chick because she was, like, too casual and this and that, and I yelled at her for being too casual, and then I found out she was kind of cool, and now you're just still not giving her away, and she's always working and she's kind of cool. Why are you being a dick about it? And she's, like, being a real stickler about letting her do anything. And I think now he's like, you're an. So stop being an. I don't think he really cares about the service. I think he's just trying to get to the bottom of why she's an asshole.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Well, maybe he feels a certain duty of care ever since he had his conversation with Marina and was like, what's really going on with you? And she's like, I'm just stuck in the bowels of the boat all the time. But I just. It's still surprising to me because I just. I just feel like he just. I feel like most people just wouldn't care, you know? Like, if you're good at folding the clothes, you're good at folding clothes and make yourself. Don't Complain about it like you're part of a team. Yachty. The whole. The whole thing. Right? So. But maybe he feels guilty from that conversation.

[Ronnie Carroll]

1. He's also a man who's expanding. You know, he's not like, listen, I'm not just a man who runs into docks anymore. I'm in a man who runs into docks when you can see his dockers because he's wearing his own designed kimono.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's right.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Big.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Lara goes up to Marina is like, do you feel confident doing the rum tasting? You'll be on your own doing service. You'll have to do something very complicated. Okay? You're going to take the tin foil with your fingers, clasp the tin foil with your. Your finger forefinger and your thumb and pull back. And that will reveal the food. Are you able to do this?

[Ronnie Carroll]

And she's like, I feel confident. And she's like, are you sure? She goes, yes, I'm confident. You can believe in me, coach. So she's like, all right, let me talk you through it. All right, listen, here's the pictures. This might look like potato salad, right? You can't touch it. You know why there's a covering on top. The covering is see through. That's because it's made out of plastic. Do you understand? Have you ever heard of this? She's saying, I get it. I had it. Okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So. But they. Marina does act like she has been. Like, she's going into the front lines of a war. It's like, well, our entire nation relies on you, Marina, to serve this potato salad. So Serena is. She's telling Alicia to cut some credites. And then, you know, Harry is bonding with Nate. Nate is the new boson for those who forgot. And so Harry and Nate are bonding in a very, like, Australian way where Harry's like, my date was native science. And then Nate's like, oh, yeah, and gives him, like, a high five. Everybody's like, oh, why'd you give me a high five for that? He's like, I just love high fives, dude. I need to make it clear of a daily high five crater.

[Ronnie Carroll]

So I'm not sure what to think of Nate yet. He gives me kind of Australian Ned Flanders vibes. He's got, like. He's got hotness. But he's. He's a dork. Not that Ned Flanders was hot. I mean, it. Listen, it depends on your taste. But he's. He's got kind of a dorky thing, which I kind of like. Like his eyes. Look, he does this thing where his eyes look kind of unfocused, like he's not wearing his very thick glasses. And I say that as somebody who used to wear very thick glasses, mine would get like that. I think that he's got like a nerd element there, which we're not seeing quite yet.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah. Well, there's something kind of like he's. There's like a golden retriever aspect to him.

[Ronnie Carroll]

You know, it's literally golden.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's literally golden. He looks like kind of like Ryan. What's his face, you know, from the Barbie. Gosling. Ryan Gosling. And I'm amending from last week because last week I said he reminded me of Detective Quimby from Inspector Gadget. But now it's like, if Detective Quimby worked out and then started to look like Ryan Gosling, I think that's what he looks like. But he has the enthusiasm of like a camp counselor, which is not what you'd expect from either of those characters. And it's just sort of hard to reconcile all those concepts together.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah. So then Alicia is singing to herself not to take life too seriously because, you know, it's been very difficult. Serena was mean to her about a fruit platter and a salmon platter and told her to get a coffee. So she's had a really rough morning, you guys. It's like, it's like hell working for Serena. So Lara comes in and she's like, oh, look at you making a fruit tray. Well, when I think of fruit, I think of a strawberry for you. And she's like, do you? That's so nice. Yes. Because you're always bright and you know, it's not. It's always, you know, it's nice to always see a strawberry, isn't it? It is. And you know, you grow in soil, which is poop. Serena can be that, you know, just keeping you back here mired and poop. But still that little shiny part. Everyone wants to just pluck you and take you out of the kitchen, don't we?

[Ben Mandelker]

Serena is so angry at the back of the. The galley just watching this entire interaction happen. And she's like, okay, I don't think I can have two people from this department go to this rum tasting with the timing that we have. Will be leaving this place an absolute shit ho. So, you know, we can't go to this. This rum tasting. And Lar was like, well, no, well, we. There's. But there's no heads IT departments there. She's like, yeah, but I don't want to leave the Galley. But if it's just washing up that you're concerned about, we could do that while you're God's. No, it's not just washing up. It's just. Well, I mean, head of department has to be that. If you're concerned about that department, why aren't you there? Why don't you take the hair off and you go.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Go? Yeah, you go. No, a head of department does not need to be there to sit there and watch him eat chicken salad. Okay. Or send the chief. What's his buns. Chief. You know, the one we were just talking about. Golden retriever face. Get him.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Why does it have to be the one with the hardest job? It's just bizarre, Lars. Bizarre. And I think she's trying to. With her. I think she's trying to make her look bad by being like, oh, she had to go, and then she's gonna have stuff late. And then she's gonna be like, well, there's Serena, always getting stuff in late. There's the manure chef. You know how it is. So she's like, all right, well, Serena's just giving it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I. I actually don't think it's. I don't think it's actually as intentional as that, but I think she's like, well, I don't want to go, and the boson's not going, so that'll be. Serena has to go. And that's just how it's going to be. Like. I think that's what Laura thinks, like, because someone has to be there. But I'm. I've decided it's not going to be me. And so she's just like, well, that's. It's just the way it's going to be, Serena. And Serena's like, what the. Like, it doesn't have to be that way. And I would have liked Zarina to have advocated for herself and say, why don't you go? Why don't you take a dare off? And you go, I'll send alicia. You go, etc. She's like, she should say, I have to cook stuff here, you know?

[Ronnie Carroll]

Well, but she sees what Laura's doing, and I think she's got a very good call on what Lara's doing, which is really butter up the other stuff that's in there and make Serena look like an. Which she does. She's like, look at you, my bright little strawberry. What a fruit you are. Like, Laura. Laura doesn't talk like that to people. Laura's an. So I think she's very Smart. When she calls it out, she's like, yeah, I see what she's doing. She's, like, coming in here to make herself look like the good guy and me look like the bad guy. And I think that Zarina probably is looking crazy to a lot of people by thinking that, but I think she's right. I think that is what Laura's doing. So she's like, I'm just going to keep pushing her. I'm just going to keep pushing her. She's already on the edge. It'll be fun.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, so I. I think that. Yeah, either way, Lara.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I mean, basically. Look, here's basically where we're at right now. You give Laura the benefit of the doubt, and I do not. That's just.

[Ben Mandelker]

I give her. No, I give her. I just give her. I don't. I don't. I'm not as full conspiratorial that she sent Zarina to the beach picnics. That way, Zarina would flop, and then Serena would.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Well, I'm not sure.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just think it's.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I'm not.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that's. That's where I'm not.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Everything else pushing her. I think she's purposely pushing her because there's no reason that she needs to be there. That's just silly.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's no reason whatsoever. She's doing some sort of, like, weird divide and conquer thing. So the problem. The problem with Zarina, though, is that she, like me, sometimes can't help but cater to her dark side, which is uncontrollable passive aggression. And so she. Zarina, instead of saying, no, why don't you go? Serena's like, it's fine. It's fine. I'll go. So that way she. And so this way, there's no reason for her to go. And she should have just said, I'm not gonna go. She's had a department. She's as. As much of a right to say that I'm not gonna go.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Like, I'm looking at. Like, she's playing right into her hands because now she's getting pissed, and so she's going to start being moody, and then. Then later gets to go, oh, my God, look at Serena, always moody. Look what I have to deal with everybody, which is what she does. So.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, it's a total cycle. We see it happening. Yeah. So Serena is just saying she just doesn't want to go there, but she's. It's easier to just. Just do it than to, you know, argue with Lara. Which is funny because that.

[Ronnie Carroll]

That's.

[Ben Mandelker]

That that fight over the plate for mob night, that really seemed to just destroy them. Huh? I can't take it. I can't take another argument with a. The way that she railroaded me about white plates for mob night. I can't do it anymore.

[Ronnie Carroll]

It's just constant. It's like the timing of the food, the this and that. That was just another tick on the box. That was just another body. Bucks ticked for that one. Oh.

[Ben Mandelker]

So by the way, for those who. For those, we have a correction to make. Zarina did prepare the fish last week tableside, and it was a. It's an issue of. It's a big discussion.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yes, that was my bad. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we follow the sword.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

You fall on the sword.

[Ronnie Carroll]

No, that was me. You were. You were not wrong. I'm not falling on a sword. Here's what I'm doing. I'm moving the sword over and I'm gonna say this. Stop leaving swords in the middle of the road for me to hold them. Okay? So get them. Remove the sword and I won't have to fall on it. I will not fall. So. But I am sorry. That was wrong. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

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[Ben Mandelker]

So then, then everyone gets to the rum distillery and Alicia and, and Serena are on their way and it's, it takes a very long time to get there. In the meantime, we see Nick. He's. He's struggling. He's having an internal struggle because he knows he has to fess up to the captain that he took a shot last night and he's like, staying out of your your own head is a lesson that I still have yet to learn. Not the most experienced person on the group by very far. Actually. My dad got me started in yachting. He's always been very adventurous. He was my professional windsurfer, then kite surfer, then just land surfer. I don't know how he did that. But he served on land, he served everywhere and now captain in the med. And I've known, never known someone to listen to as few Rules as he does. That's the type of person I want to be. Unfortunately, I am the opposite of that. So that was his backstory, which, by the way, his dad. We see pictures of his dad. What are the odds that his dad gets recruited into the Blow Deck franchise as like a captain of a boat? I kind of felt like this was set up for something, right?

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah, that would be great. He's a captain in the Med. You're hired. Let's see what you can do. Yeah, I would love to see any man at work who produced this handsome, nerdy fellow with a deep voice. Bring it on. Yeah, bring it on, Daddy. So now Laura and Adair are setting up the picnic and the guests are going to the rum distillery. By the way, I hope these guests choke on that rum. You cheap Dubai. I mean, how are you from Dubai and you're going to be that cheap? Dubai is like the richest place ever. They spend money, it's dripping with money ever. Ever. And you're like the shittiest tip on the entire season.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, yeah. I was wondering where this was going. I was like, I was wondering where this was going. I was like, what was wrong with the rope?

[Ronnie Carroll]

Spoiler alert. They tip. I was pissed.

[Ben Mandelker]

I thought you were. Yeah, that was a shitty, shitty tip. And they did so much for these people. People.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I just mean rich because you're from. You're from Dubai. How dare you. And I shouldn't even call you. That's not nice. Dubai buttheads.

[Ben Mandelker]

How dare you, You Dubai you. You know what? You are pieces of. Yeah, you pieces of somehow.

[Ronnie Carroll]

But I'm still with it. This was no, there was no excuse for this. I hope your businesses fail because they're like, oh, we're set. CEO. Oh, my God. Marina. Marina. You're like number 23 CEO today. It just came out in this article. She's like, oh, wow. Really? I didn't even know my PR person who set that up didn't even tell me about that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's get serious.

[Ronnie Carroll]

We leave.

[Ben Mandelker]

Boom. Yeah, that was a shitty ass tip because it was not even just a. It was a. It was a multi night charter. So, yeah, terrible. So congratulations, Contessa, you're off the hook from last season. No, this season.

[Ronnie Carroll]

No, this season I think it's the same. I think it was 15, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Was contessa the. But was Contesta on blow? I think Contessa was on below deck sailing.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Oh, I thought she was this season.

[Ben Mandelker]

I can't remember. All I know is that there's a new. A new bad Timber. So I don't know.

[Ronnie Carroll]

It's below deck. It's all the same. It's all the same.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a boat. It's a boat. It's about.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Who knows? Yeah. So Marina is excited. She's like, oh, I have an opportunity to be back on service again. So now I'm going to work my ass off. I'm a valuable professional. I'm too charismatic to be in the dungeon. Everybody's gonna know how good I am. Look, put your napkin in your lap. Do it. They're like, oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Excuse me. The most charismatic people are the ones in the dungeon. Hello. That's where they. That's why you get thrown in the dungeon, because you usually have too much charisma. Yeah, all the great. Yeah, all the great.

[Ronnie Carroll]

We are literally in the dungeon of the entertainment industry.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was gonna say all the great martyrs in history, but also us.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I'm one of the great martyrs in history. I literally compete with Jesus on Easter. I'm like, oh, you rose. I rose to be here. Did you have to iron something? No, you didn't. And you were a ghost. Whatever.

[Ben Mandelker]

Listen, they don't make movies about people who are. Who were, like, falsely put into a living room. They make movies about people who are falsely imprisoned. Just. They're just more charismatic. That's what people are. Jealous. People are jealous, and they're haters.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah. So basically, the Green Mile, like, Tom Hanks, just wanted to get out to, like, do proper dinner service. He was like, you know what? I'm. I'm here to put the fork on the proper side. Okay? It's the right side of the plate. And that's it. No, it's actually on the left, isn't it? The knife is on.

[Ben Mandelker]

Fork is on the left.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Then he was sent back to jail. Green Mile, Part two. Tom Hanks failed at service.

[Ben Mandelker]

He had some charisma challenges. I wish I could think of other movies with dungeons, but I shockingly, can't think of a single movie with a dungeon. I could just think of, like. Like Game of Thrones when they were in, like, the Martells. Those people, like, I don't know. It doesn't even matter.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I think of Real Housewives of Atlanta.

[Ben Mandelker]

Talk about charisma in the dungeon.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Charismatic person in the dungeon. Candy, she made a whole show out of it. Okay? So the two are. They're so. You know, these turtles at this point, these turtles are like old show queens. It's like, you got Joan Rivers down there. You got Mitzi Gaynor. They're just like, come on, kids, give us a paint. Give us a pet, would you? Come on. We. We do this every day. Just tell us how young we look.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love these tortoises. They really are becoming a huge star. And then, by the way, something that was insulting. Talk about. Here's a. Here's a good support for these people being cheap. So. Although maybe it would say that they're actually very wealthy. I can't tell you. You decide. But the. One of the guests starts using the rum as, like, hand sanitizer because it's like 69 alcohol or something like that, which I kind of think is like a. I just kind of think it's disrespectful to just do that at the. At the rum distillery itself. It's like, they made this rum, and they're probably giving it to you for free because it's on tv, and you're just, like, not even gonna drink it. You're just gonna pour it on your hands and use it. Like, I don't know. I think it's shitty.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Oh, I took it as. I'm just like, we're just, like, fun girls.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know.

[Ronnie Carroll]

It was all over my body. And also, I don't think. I think they'd be thrown in jail for life if they did that in Dubai. They're just like, look what we can do. We're such rebels.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I. I was like, does this speak to them being really cheap and that they won't get their own hand sanitizer or them being so wealthy that they don't care that they're pouring very expensive rum on their. On their hands? And I'm gonna. I'm side with the latter. The point is. So Marina is tell. She's, like, setting up the buffet, which is very exciting. And Zarina is like, all right, here you do. Okay, so. Wow. Oh, I can't possibly do this without my head chef. Right. Spinach. Cool. Gets asparagus. There it is. Congratulations.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And red onions. Red onions. We've done red onions. Yes. You've. You've. That's actually an apple. You. But whatever. All right, well, it's an hour round trip, so I guess I should leave now. It's been an absolute pleasure and definitely not a waste of my time to be here. Do you reckon the next time you can just do it alone? And she's like, I mean, yeah, I can take tin foil off. I know how to do that. But why are you acting like she's yelling at you? You know, she's yelling at Lara. You were in the. The galley when Lara was insisting that she come.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, because now Zarina is viewing Alicia as like an extension of Lara. She feels, I think she feels at this point, Alicia's already been brought over to the dark side. She can't trust Alicia. And so now she's mad at her too, which is kind of unfair, right? Because this poor girl's just been trying to do her job. Even if she's had her head in the clouds, she can't help it if Lara's come over and called her a strawberry.

[Ronnie Carroll]

So Serena leaves and Marina asks Alicia if she's okay. And she's like, well, I mean, I know how to take off cling film and set up a thing. Jeez, why am I being treated like this? So she introduces the food to the ladies who probably smell absolutely drunk because they've been covering themselves in the rum. And Alicia is like, so here we have a goddess quiche and some stuffed figs and potato salad and pasta. It has all been hand unwrapped.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Nick radios for to go meet with the captain. So he goes up to Jason, he's like, so last night on entertainment duty, yeah, the girls were having a good time and I did report something on myself. One of them came over and said, you, oh, do you have a drink? And I, I guess I got very carried away with myself and myself, and I did a shot and I wasn't consistent enough with myself and I, I up and I took a shot. And I just want to let you know, and firstly, if you need to throw me overboard and feed me to the sharks, I understand. Tell my father I love him, but dearly.

[Ronnie Carroll]

He's like, wow, first charter, not acceptable. That's an issue. Now listen, I have already been on the phone with Australian Norma twice and I'm not going to do it again. You can keep your job. Thanks for being honest. Take a kimono on your way out. Goodbye. Just let me alone. I'd like to take a nap here. It's exhausting. I'm watching a storm on television. Goodbye.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, yeah, he does a whole thing of like, well, but at the end of the day, you know, you get nothing for nothing. But also, you know, if you, you know what you did wrong and coming up here doing this, this is exactly what I wanted of someone. So I think we could put this to bed. So good. Good on you. You were honest.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah. So it's like, it will not happen again. That's not, that's a. Not a normal thing for me. I'd love to assure you, sir, I'm very, very, very sorry. And if you're on the radio with any captains from the Med, just please don't mention this. He's like, all right, please leave now.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Zarita comes back on the boat, and Lara's like, so how was it the biggest waste of time this. This entire season? I mean, I've got so much shit to do. You just got to know I have to do this thing, pretending to get out the W. Laura's like, okay, well, so you went before got taken out. She's like, what? What do you mean? She like the food? Just. Yeah, it's fine. Nothing's affected me at all. Nothing's affected me at all. So Zarina is in, like, a furious mood now.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I love that Lara's still trying to get her. She's like, oh, so you left before the food was taken out? She like, oh, off. And also, we saw a little scene in there of Lara with Bri. Bri's cleaning the rooms, and she's like, bri, we must make sure the pillows are flat. Please make sure they're flat. She's like, okay. God, okay, I will. She's like, see, I can't do this with Brie. It's ruining my whole flow.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then they also showed. There was also a moment where Brie was like, I don't know how to turn the shower off. I think it's gonna run infinitely. She's like, use a different knob. Use a different knob. She's like, oh, my God, it worked.

[Ronnie Carroll]

You see what I'm saying? This girl doesn't understand showers. She must be in a higher position.

[Ben Mandelker]

It is the definition of failing up. Right?

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yes. You cannot but go just blonde people in showers. That's just not what we do. It's going against nature.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, by the way, I think the reason why Zarina went on this trip, aside from the fact that she's, you know, she. She gets to have. Be passive aggressive. I think she's building a case so that way she can say to Jason, but it's outrageous. I mean, she had to go all the way out there just to take some cling wrap off and come all the way back. That was an hour I could have been on the boat. Because she knows if she has something tangible that she could bring to the captain, that that will be more effective than if it's just like her word versus Lara word. Like if they both go the captain, about why they can't get along. So I think she, like, took the L on this One solely. So that way she had empirical evidence that Lara is mismanaging the situation. Yeah.

[Ronnie Carroll]

But then she never does it. So that's. That's the thing. It's like she doesn't do it. I think she's just trying to make Laura happy because by the end of the episode, of course, Lara turns it around. Like, see, Serena's crazy, everybody. I told you. And then she's. So now anything she says now is going to look like she's fighting back against the crazy claims.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I think she's still going to be. She's still building her case. I think she's. I think she wants to get two to three pieces of evidence that then she can take to Captain Jason and see, I can't do this anymore. I can't work like this. She's too much, you know, but, like, one is not enough.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Turning against Laura because she thinks that Laura's like a, you know, Lara's the popular girl that she wants to be Be. So I don't see her, like, trying to turn her in because then she'd be dead forever in front of Laura. And Laura she's gonna have to see possibly on other boats, the other boat they worked on together. I think she just wants the approval of this chick she's never going to get it from, but who knows? Let's see. Time will tell. You know, we've made our predictions. Let's see what. What transpires, shall we? So Laura, of course, is already like, well, I wish Serena would have been more passionate about serving the guest lunch than serving me this shitty attitude, dude. Like, what the. You're an. That's what. That's. That's what.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why don't you be. Yeah, why don't you be more passionate about going and serving lunch? Like, she's not the only one. Okay. It's like, just like there's no passion that's required. And sticking a ladle into some tzatziki and slopping it onto a plate.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah. So then the guests come back and it's announced at 8:30 will be time for dinner. And Laura is like, well, you know, in a perfect world, Marina would just want to stay in cabins forever. But I am actually really impressed with her right now. She didn't even have to text me to ask me what the invisible stuff was on top of potato salad. And I was expecting that. So well done.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cut debris trying to figure out how to turn off a sink. That one, on the other hand, needs a little bit of work.

[Ronnie Carroll]

So Marina says they had A great time. She like, it was great until somebody lit a cigarette and they started on fire, which was crazy. So we had to put her out, But I think otherwise, she's fine. Everything was fine.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Alicia comes back in, and she's like, how's it been in here? And Zarina just ignores her. Should I put this in the bin? No. Okay, well, opt me in. Let me know what I can do to help. It's all right. Okay. Can I cut a carrot? No. Can I open the fridge? No. Do you want me to stand here? No. Do you want me to be in the kitchen? No. In the kitchen. At the kitchen. Neither. That's impossible. I have to be in one place or the other.

[Ronnie Carroll]

So then we return to the original problem Serena was having with the first douche, which is when she just turns off and she won't say anything. And she's just completely ignoring this girl. She's like, well, I want to be hopeful, but I don't know what's going on. So then Nick pulls every person on the boat aside. He's like, oh, may I have a chat with you? Thank you. That would be lovely. Listen, I just wanted to tell you that last night I was playing a. A silly game with the ladies, and they asked me to take a shot, and I did it. Please give me whatever lashings you need to give me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everyone's like, oh, okay. There's like, okay, buddy.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Well, if I knew we were allowed to drink, I would have done it a long time ago. Did you take a shot while you're watching football on tv? No, actually. All right, you're still not attractive to me. So, moving along.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Lara goes up to Lucia. She's like, so, sweetheart. Little adorable strawberry. You're not a strawberry shortcake. You're a strawberry tall cake. Because you're tall and proud. How was it? How was taking the tin foil off of those chafers? She's like, I loved it. Good, good. I'm glad you loved it, because you deserve all the loving in the world.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Like, it was just nice to be outside, wasn't it? And she goes, oh, well, that's just such good news, because that's what I wanted. You know, strawberries can't grow in basements. They must be out in the world. So I'm glad I gave you that opportunity to step off the boat and see the sunshine. You're welcome. You're welcome. If you'd like to call me mum and give me a hug, that would. That would be all right.

[Ben Mandelker]

Now, you sweet, adorable thing, here's a little gift I got from you. It's a necklace. I found it. I found it on land and I'm giving it to you. So have a wonderful rest of your day. Now, hold on, I'll. I have to speak privately with Serena. Dinner's at 8:30. Get it ready.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And Alicia tells her, oh, I really appreciate you fighting in my corner to go as well. She didn't have to fight her. Serena was the one who sent you in the first place. What is this bunk? Alicia's pissing me off now. Okay, I'm getting pissed. She's, like, too easily swayed. So then Serena's like, she's watching all of this and she, like, you know, I don't know if Lara's trying to mess with me right now, but it seems like she's grooming my sous chef to be against me. That's not my chef. She should be supporting me. What the fuck is going on? She hates you. Okay? Yeah, I know you haven't heard her diary rooms or whatever, but she hates your guts. Hope she dies. Stick a needle in your eye.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, you're like the kid's sister that she doesn't want to deal with. Okay, but, like, unfortunately, Zarina, like, the best way to combat this is that Zarina also grooms Alicia to be against Lara. Like, there's no reason why. Just because the Lars doing it doesn't mean Zarina can't do it. The worst thing that Zarina can do right now is to stonewall Alicia, because then everything Lara says is going to feel more true and real. She's just sending Alicia over there. You've got to fight for your Sue. You've got to sit there, you got to gossip and talk with her and, like, share special things and bond and make it clear that Lara will never know what it's like to slice a crudite the way those two do. That's what you got to do. You don't, don't, don't give her the silent treatment.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah, but you're in war right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're in a battle like that.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Some people just aren't born with that kind of personality where they're like, oh, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna re manipulate this girl to go against that girl. She just wants to be loved, Serena.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Literally, by anybody. I mean, show them.

[Ben Mandelker]

Listen, if there's anyone knows, it's Maze.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Why, she's probably down there at night begging for love from that clownfish that's always swimming by the boat. You Know, she's like, was that turtle waving to me? Looks like it was waving to Lara. Well, lose again.

[Ben Mandelker]

Should we discuss this week's fish? By the way, speaking of the con fish, there were some real be. There were some real be. I think my favorite one there was like a yellow one. There's a long yellow one, but sort of had like some like 19, like 1907 Parisian makeup on on her face. I thought she was really wonderful. I think she was my favorite of the week.

[Ronnie Carroll]

There was a big one that looked like a jug. Like it was just this huge fish and then it like shrinks down right after its face and then it's. Yes, it's like a horn. That's what I like. I liked that. Yeah, I thought that was very nice.

[Ben Mandelker]

There are a lot of schools of fish, which was fine, but I feel like the schools of fish kind of lack personality, you know, like, they're like. It was also slow down.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Like when you get.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, they were small fish too. So you're. They're especially like, okay, you're. You don't. You're just not bringing anything. You're just like creating chaos here, you know?

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah, but they're like, look, we can move at the same time. Look, that one turned left. I turned last. We're in the line. School of fish. What do I have to go 30 miles an hour? Because you can't keep your school of fish out of the road. Get out of the road.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're also. For the second week in a row, there was no. No sign whatsoever of our favorite mori. Eel who suddenly is relegated to the sidelines. However, our sea turtle got like, like three or four different shots and even surfaced got an above water shot later on in the episode. So it was a really big episode for the sea turtle, but for me, I'm still gonna give it to the yellow fish with the, with the makeup.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Okay. I'm gonna go for the trumpet fish or whatever the.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay. We love. Yeah, it was great. It was a great turnout.

[Ronnie Carroll]

There was also another moss colored fish that might be the same one I'm talking about. There are not colored but covered. And it looks. I like those kind of fish because it looks like they just lie around all day and they get. They just get it. It's like when you. When I get up and I have like blanket fuzz all over me. Cuz I've been on the couch all day, but I try to pretend I haven't for the delivery guy and they're like, you're literally covered in a blanket so yeah, and that's what that kind of fish, it's like ding dong. And that fish just got up. It's like the cameras are here. The cameras are here. Look, I'm a fish, I'm swimming. Look at the schools. And you know it was lying cuz it's covered in blanket commercials. Here comes one right now. Craving your next action packed adventure, Audible.

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Audible.Com wonderyus that's audible.com wonderyus At 24 I lost my narrative. Or rather it was stolen from me. And the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes and politics. I would define Reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks both recognizable and unrecognizable names about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaiming and feel like they filled their tank up, they connected with the people that I'm talking to and leave with maybe some nuggets that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts. Also, there was some good work by the Rays. You know, the rays are always kind of like reliably there and I feel like we don't like point them out as much, but the rays were sort of just like moving around in a very gentle way, which I appreciated. And we also got there's that one fish.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I really love the ray. The ray is like Karen wasn't drunk. She barely even drinks. I don't know why she's getting a drunk driving.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're very supportive fish. They'll cover for their wives ray. Yeah, and then there's also some of those mid tier fish. You know, like, they're those fish that are like, I kind of feel like they coast on being pretty, but they, they actually don't have a lot of personality. So they're generally like yellow, but they have like, like, like four blue stripes along their side. They're like, look at me, I have pizzazz. I'm kind of just like, pretty. But you're like, yeah, but you don't have like an it factor and you're going to need an it factor if you want to move ahead in this competition.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah, they just keep passing. They're like, gaga's back, Gaga's back. They're all saying the same thing. You're like, okay, we get it. You're.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, have your own thoughts for once. Yeah.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Okay. So Harry checks in with Serena and she's bummed, you know, so of course production was like, go start with Serena. So she's like, I mean, it's all good. And he goes, so are you, are you and Laura getting on? Just random question, Random question. Producers didn't tell me to ask this at all, but are you getting on? She's like, well, I mean, I think so. I just thought we'd be more like besties, you know? And I mean, now, I guess for friendship with Bri, I guess maybe I'm feeling a bit pushed out. Do you understand what I'm saying? And he's like, oh, that's so sad. You know, I will walk off this boat. I will walk off this boat if I. Anybody being rude to you again.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now everyone's gonna, everyone's going to change into blacks because tonight the theme theme is lavish Dubai nights, which is, I don't know, like, it's a little weird. I mean, if you're from Dubai, why are you having a. Why do you go onto a boat to have a theme of where you're from? Right? Like, that's, that's like me going on vacation, being like, I want. You know what I want? I want an LA themed meal. Like, no, I could stay in LA for that. For a jankier, like, balloony version of, of the city I'm in. Like, how about like Paris or Rome?

[Ronnie Carroll]

Understood that when people, they're like, we're from Oklahoma. We want a barbecue night. Like, okay, so you're from, you're from the South. I don't know how, how barbecue is in Oklahoma. I would assume it's okay. I mean, the Southern.

[Ben Mandelker]

Pun intended. Pun intended.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah, I would assume it's Okay. L A H O M A. But who knows? But why would you go to, like, another country and be like, make us some barbecue?

[Ben Mandelker]

I know, I don't understand that. I don't understand that. That mentality of, like, I feel like if you're going to travel somewhere or get something that's just different, you know.

[Ronnie Carroll]

But they always do it on this show. Everybody does it. Because, remember, even the gays do it. Remember, the gays came and they were like, we want to eat something gay. And they were like, okay. Like, yeah, gay things. That was there.

[Ben Mandelker]

The penis cake and flags every single time. They love it.

[Ronnie Carroll]

That was their request.

[Ben Mandelker]

I died at that.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And then they actually did a bunch of gay. They're like, okay, now we've got penis foods. You know, this looks like a little penis. Like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. So Zarina and Alicia are still cooking. Alicia's making little. What do you call those mistakes? Mistakes. You know, those little meat. The meat. Cafetes. Cafetas. No, you know what I'm talking about. She's making little meat dumplings.

[Ronnie Carroll]

She's making little meatballs.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're like little torpedoes.

[Ronnie Carroll]

They look like little kibbies.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kibbies. Kibbies. That's what it is. Kibby. She's making kibby dicks. And so Elise is like, oh, they look like little pews. And Serena's like, I'm not gonna laugh at that. Even though, God, I would love to laugh at that. It's so true. And basically, Elisa's just like. So any technique to make them all look the same, just practice and shutting up. That's it. The more you shut up, the better they turn out.

[Ronnie Carroll]

So. But it's important that they're all the same, right? Yes, I guess. Give them old blonde hair and some lips stick. So. So Laura will be kind to them. Maybe. Maybe that'll work. She goes, what? Would you like some tea after this? She goes, no, I wouldn't like some tea after. All right. But I'm so sorry. I just can't go the whole evening like this. It's very depressing. It's. I'm just bored of this. Like, come on.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, well, I'm utterly. I'm just utterly exhausted. I've been a moody grumpy today and I will continue to do that. So this moment of self awareness is brought to you by this moment of back to being moody grumpy. All right, make your kitties.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Marina is talking to Nick about French. She's like, oh, you know French. He's like, poly vu francais. And she's like, oh, my God. And he's like, oh, yeah, Marina, adorable. Growing up, I didn't approach women, really. I mean, my first kiss was at 19 and she was painted blue. It was hard, actually. Star Trek themed convention. My dad.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think Ben, wait for it.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Getting a hand job. She had eight actual octopi arms coming out of her. It was actually very sexy. I just don't know that anyone will ever compete with that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Turns out she was actually some sort of new age kind of room fan. It was weird. So I was shamed. So Lara. So, yeah, he is. He and Marina are flirting, basically. And then Lara's like, okay, Serena, could you explain this dish that you made for me? And Serena's like, I don't take burnt garlic dye with a fusion of eggplant cinnamon curry. And Lara's like, crazy. Look at that. Crazy. Does the dish you just made wow you?

[Ronnie Carroll]

I've never heard of a more unstable dish to serve to. Guess I should bring this up with Captain. Oh. So they serve it, the guests love it. And then Nate and Harry are chatting about tomorrow docking. And Harry seems to be kind of in charge of it. You know, he's like, you know, I know how to do this and I had to do that. And Nate loves it. He's like, comment. And then there's latent charter season. There's a leader. You gotta earn respect. And it's not there yet. But luckily, luckily, luckily, I've got no ego. That was mostly bleached out when I do the highlights every year. So that's possible, that's positive. But I've got Harry and here, he's got a work ethic, he's got a passion for the job. He cries quite a bit, which is something we've got to work on. Maybe, or maybe we don't. I don't know. Can you cry while you bring in a line? We'll find out. I'm putting him in charge of everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Lara serves the first course and everything. Everyone likes it. Everyone goes to sleep. Sleep. And so then Alicia's talking to Zarina and she's like, oh, it's the next day. We wrapped up that evening quickly. It's the next day. And Alicia, I would like to talk.

[Ronnie Carroll]

About corn fed chicken. I don't like when people brag about feeding the chicken corn. They're like, here's a corn fed chicken. Oh, wow. Were there no Snickers fed chicken available? Like, why are we bragging that we're not feeding the chicken crap? Was that what kind of grass fed? Yes, they're like, look, we didn't feed. This was not. I just think it's a sad place we've come in this world where you never know what they're being fed. You know, it's like this. This chicken was fed. Children enjoy it. It was a dollar off at the market. But, you know, that's what you have to do now. You have to specify, you know, what does this have hormones? Chicken. Like, what did this chicken eat?

[Ben Mandelker]

It is funny because I feel like, isn't there a whole movement of anti corn? An anti corn movement, like big corn. Big corn's rooting everything. These corn farms. And then they're like, but God, we hate corn. Corn. But also we fed this chicken corn.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah, but it's good for the chickens.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that's good. If it's good for the chicken, it's good for the. It's good for the kids.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And I know that movement is like, mostly about, like, this wasn't raised in the headless in a cage and just fed, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Oh, I hope it wasn't raised headless.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah, they do that. Haven't you ever watched documentaries? That's why I don't eat meat anymore. Because Netflix, I've watched so many of those documentaries. Yeah, they like engineer chickens to be just. I think they're headless. You look it up. Because now I feel crazy the way you're looking at me. I'm afraid they raise like these mutant crazy chickens in these little tiny cages. They never move. And I think they're headless and they just raise them and with all these steroids. So I mean, I see where the movement comes from. I just think it's sad that we've come that far where we're like, can I just make sure this wasn't a headless chicken raised in a shoe box? Okay. Was never able to walk. It's just sad. It's just sad. That's all I'm saying. But here we are with the corn fed chicken. My mom's obsessed with corn and thinks that everybody is fat because of corn. She's like, you know why America's fat corn? Corn did it. Corn's in everything. Corn is the killer. So my mom, like, literally looks at corn as a murderer. So I'm with you. You know, why are we writing about feeding the chicken corn? You know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Right. Except the truth is corn is so delicious and I love corn deeply. I was born for corn, like Madison Lacroix. And so I will never be able to be totally anti corn because really.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Did you Ever see the porn documentary? Oh, that was another one on Netflix.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's like saying, like. It's like, ronnie. That's like, if someone said to me, hey, Ben, do you want to watch a documentary about all the awful things Ronnie has done? I'm like, I'm not gonna watch that. No, the things that I love. The other way. I'm looking the other way.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Thank you. And that's. That's the secret to a friendship right there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I would not be watching any slander documentaries about Ronnie or corn.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Well, now, I hope I've given you some nightmares. Corn is evil. And chickens are usually headless that you eat. Okay, so the crew wakes up, and Alicia is gally.

[Ben Mandelker]

What I said, but are they happy? I bet they are. That's one less thing they don't have to worry about. They don't have to worry about, like, oh, God, my face is so saggy. Like, you know, they're just like, look.

[Ronnie Carroll]

At me, I've got chicken neck. You know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, is that chicken at this point? Is that chicken neck or is that chicken face? Because isn't your neck kind of your face at this point, Joel?

[Ronnie Carroll]

All right, so we're in the galley, and Alicia's asking what to do. And she's like, all right, well, we need to have a bit of a chop chop. She goes, but I only started a minute ago. She goes, all right, well, separate the eggs. I need 12 eggs separated. Go. And she goes, okay, we'll. That's it. Anyway, I've done that. All right, now I can concentrate on the crew, so. Oh, you're putting something together. Is that for the guests? And she's like, no, it's for the crew. We're going to do both together today. Crew together. Then we're going to get it out of the way. Then we're going to do the guests together. All right, so I'm going to need. Do the egg separation now. I just. I needed them right away is the thing, you know, and you didn't do them. And now I need them.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she's like, no, I. I did do them. Look, there's 12 of them. I'm really generally confused about what's going on because goes, you haven't told me what you're planning. And she's, okay, when I tell you to do this, you do it. And then you tell me they're done. And you don't go and do different things. But it was already done when I started doing other things. Like, what's what. What I'm Confused. I was like, did you say that they're done, Chef? Well, they're done, chef, but did you say, they're done, chef? Who's better than Lara? Well, I didn't say that last part. And there's the problem. There's the problem.

[Ronnie Carroll]

She's like, okay, but what's going on with the crew? Breakfast. What? What's going on? The thing you've not actually told me what you've planned for the crew. So you say, well, working together, but I have no idea what you're doing. And so now she's at the point where she's basically like the other sue chef. And she's like, what is this lady thinking? You know? Like, I have no idea what she's doing. She's all over the place, and she needs to just be a better boss, basically. And she tells her. I mean, I respect her for just telling Serena. She's like, look, I'm walking on eggshells around you. And then it's. I don't know where to fit in and where to work when you've not told me. And I keep asking you, and I don't mind being shown, but you're not telling me. And she's like, okay, but first of all.

[Ben Mandelker]

First of all, let me just say something. When you separate the eggs, don't throw the shells on the floor, okay? That's the first step. So that way you're not walking on them all the time. Okay? Come on, think here. It's very simple what you have to do here. But basically, Zarina's like. She's like, just like, no, I'm not gonna help. So now the guests are all, don't be a strawberry.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I hate strawberries.

[Ben Mandelker]

So everyone is. The guests are taking photos, and Adair is revealing. We actually don't know. We know, like, a little bit about Adair, but she has, like, not a lot of personality. But now we find out one of her fears, which is the anchor. She's afraid of the anchor because it could kill her. She's like, well, I always second guess myself on the anchor just because it could kill me.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And not in the fun way.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, if you were run over by, like, a 4x4 while you're chasing the. A gator in the outback back.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I was gonna say, didn't we see pictures of her on, like, 4x4 or four wheelers and stuff? A 4x4? She's on a piece of wood. Hey, it's called the seesaw. It's called the seesaw where I come from. You put a 4x4 over a can of beer. Whoever said it goes to the ground, that's it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, well, it's by far the scariest thing. Just think about how it's going to spin so we want to stop it falling. So you want this bit. Dodging that bit bit. She's like, okay. Which, by the way, that does not sound precise at all. You want this bit touching that bit, and now you won't get killed.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah, that was a little scary. And she goes, okay, heard. He goes, heard, dude. So the food is served, and we're seeing the steps climbed. 322 stairs climbed so far. And the guest.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm gonna need those steps. Sorry. Sorry to interrupt. I'm gonna need those steps to actually start to matter, because it's been, like, 10 episodes, and they keep giving us the staircase count, and it has not had any impact on anything in a long time. So unless. Unless it's me. Unless someone, like, gets, like, an Achilles Hill issue. You don't. You know, don't tell us how many stairs are going up because it's a.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Strange butthole or something. Like, yeah, somebody to be like, I'm a butthole strain. I can't do it with all the steps.

[Ben Mandelker]

Anger heard. So this is when the guests. This is when Nikki finds out. One of the guests is like, oh, my God, Nikki, you won another award. You won the number one most popular girl on this boat. Congratulations. Is.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And Laura's, like, putting drips of, like, you know, saline and not saline. What. What do you put into people's drinks to make them have diarrhea? Like, it's clear. I guess it's like eye drops or something. What do you do? I don't know. They used to do slumber parties when I was a kid.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, a salty. Like a salty. Like a saline, I think saline. I don't know.

[Ronnie Carroll]

No, it's just salt.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know. Just salt water, which is.

[Ronnie Carroll]

We shouldn't be giving people weapons for slumber parties anyway. Bam.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, absolutely.

[Ronnie Carroll]

She's like, oh, my God. You're on the 23rd Middle east woman's leader, okay? You're the 23rd woman's Middle east leader in excellence award. Excellence award. What the was this award? Okay, let me tell you what this.

[Ben Mandelker]

Give it up at the Penny Saver. What is this?

[Ronnie Carroll]

This is the line as written. Okay, well, at least as written for us on the 23rd Middle East Women's Leader. You won the 23rd Women's Middle east leaders excellence award. Excellent. Excellence award. Now I Believe that sounds like a real award. You're like, woman of Excellent Women of Excellence in the Middle. But you're number 23. And you're lucky because we only pick 23 people, which makes you good.

[Ben Mandelker]

That means that makes you, like, the Michael Jordan of Excellence in the Middle East Leaders Excellence. Excellence Award.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Maybe bring up that she was number one or not bringing up 23rd. Like, you got 23rd. Maybe just say, like, you won a Middle East Woman's Leader Award. I mean, what kind of friend is like, wow, congratulations. You came in 23.

[Ben Mandelker]

I am. So I. Of course, I had to do a. A search and come up. I. So I did a search of Nikita. Middle East Women's Leader Award. Was her name Nikita Sak. I don't know if this is her or not.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Nikita is okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

M, A K and A K. Okay, so this is. I was about to rag on someone else because someone else named Nikita. She won an award a month ago, and she was, like, so honored. She won Nikita Lord. She was nominated for most influential woman in blockchain and crypto 2025 at the middle East Blockchain Awards, which means that there's. There's an award for everything. That's what I've got to say. The Middle Eastern Blockchain Awards.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah. Well, that's a huge.

[Ben Mandelker]

I want to throw something there.

[Ronnie Carroll]

You know, the crypto 25th Middle East Women Leaders Excellence Awards. They were April 9th. Oh, well, they're going to be April 9th in 2026. So who's the winners? I want to see who number 23. So I want to. I'm gonna fat check who's number 23. I know Kim won Woman Personality of the Year.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kim Fuck.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And Fanty Kim Fuck. From Vietnam 1 1. She had a Pulitzer Prize winning photograph titled the Terror of War. God damn. I want to. I'm actually interested in these awards now, okay? This is why we should not be Googling stuff while we're popping. I'm into it now. I'm like, who's in the race this year?

[Ben Mandelker]

Can she hold her name? Hold. Hold the throne? Or will the. Will someone else come for her crown? So she won this award, and then Nikita is like, oh, my God. So they're. Now it's time to leave. So she gives a speech. She goes, everything was amazing and couldn't have asked for a better trip. Although maybe I could have, which is why. Maybe there's like a. Maybe there's like, a trip that's worth, like, $10,000 more of tip. But, like, for one that's on TV. This is amazing. My only criticism is that Nick needs to work on his beer pong skills. Thank you so much for having us.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Oh, off, you shitty tipper. I hope you fall over into the ocean. So now, clean, clean, clean, clean, clean, clean, clean. Marina and Adair are cleaning, doing some stuff. And Marina's like, oh, Nick is cute. And then there's like, well, I know something you don't know. I know something you don't. On up Bush's president. No, he's not. Okay, well, Nick has already started his party, and he started his party with a guest.

[Ben Mandelker]

AM like, no way. Don't tell me that she.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And he goes up to Captain was like, I just want to tell you guys, I don't want you to find another way that I took tequila shots with the guest last night. I mean, like, oh. Oh, you scared the out of me. I thought you were saying that he slept one of them. Oh, God. Thank God. Thank God.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Well, hey, if I knew I could drink on the job, I'd have been hammered yesterday.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just kidding.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I'm hammered right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now it's time for the tip meeting. And so they all sit down and everything. And then Jason, like, all right, like.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Dollar, dollar, dollar bills, y'all was my money.

[Ben Mandelker]

So he's like, all right. Charter six. Well, it wasn't as hectic, but we did knock out a lot. It actually showcased to the newbies what has to be done. And coming in docking was great. It actually was good little training wheels. Anyway, the point is this. You all got $5 a tip, and I don't want. You know, I don't think the tip reflects what we got out of this trip, because what we got out of this trip was a lot of tension and passive aggression amongst everyone on board. So congratulations. You all hate each other, and we're probably going to sink on the next charter.

[Ronnie Carroll]

All right? Now, if Marina's. I'm sorry. If Serena's insecurity was actual currency, we'd all be, well healthy. Unfortunately, it's not. So you didn't make today hot new guy. No, not you. The one who did. Fan fiction of me is a Vulcan. He's the one who's going to get the helmet, right? You've got the helmet. And he's like, oh, thank you very much. If this is the extent of the ramifications, consider me chuffed.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Harry's like, all right, Nice and interesting. Charter actually a character. You know, I like Nick. He's interesting. You know, he's. He. He says Everything's so proper. He's like a great politician, actually. And if I find out that he has a fake accent, I will walk right off this boat.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I walk right off this boat. Yeah. Cuz now they're all making fun of how he talks. He's like, what does he talk like that he says, everything's so proper, he'd be a great politician. And there's like, yeah, he sounds like a cartoon character. Where. When he talks like, where you come from, who are you to talk? Jesus Christ. Big mouth.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like a human banjo. So then Nate's like, yeah, he's a bit of a. He's a bit of a dor.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And Nate's like, he's a bit of a dork, but he speaks like a prince. The funny thing about Star Trek and Spock is, well, you see, indeed.

[Ben Mandelker]

That'S like me at the beginning of every blow deck season trying to figure out what people's personalities are. So then Harry, he's like, so knight first child of you. What do you think? And. And it's like, oh, you know, just have a dude. And. And Car's like, look, I'll.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I'll.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know I was a lot. I was, you know, I'll step back into line. He's like, no, man, you absolutely crushed it. It was a good dynamic and, you know, you knowing everything and being capable and qualified. Like, between you and I, there's so much experience, capability on the boat. You've done all your years. I mean, diving, you could be a boat on any day of the week.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Week.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, thank you. He's like, and you know what I'd say, you're lead deckhand, mate.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Well, I like that Harry had to lead him there because he's like, oh my, you do everything on this boat. You could do anything. I mean, if the duty was ice skating, I bet you could ice cut. You can. You got tights. Good for you, mate. Good. You could run it. I don't even know why I'm here. Rich dad, poor dad. Am I right? Rich dad, poor dad. But here we are, mate. Yeah, I'd give you anything. And Harry's like, well, thanks, you know. You know, that's my goal. You know, it's a goal. One day, say lead deckhand, you know, and then boson and then go from there. And he's like, oh, lead deck. All right, you can do lead deckhand too. So he finally got somebody that he can just be like, yes, I'm lead deck ad. Right? He's like, yes. Why didn't I come up with that? You're even good enough to come up with ideas like lead deck and you win, mate. Captain of the boat. You're the captain of the boat. Now just go take it over. Kick kimono man out. No one needs to see those hanging balls. I mean, seriously. My right.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Bri is talking to Alicia. She's like, so, how was your day? And she's like, serena is a really weird mood. I don't know what it's about. It's causing some really weird energy, and I feel like I'm a kid again. I'm like, well, you also have, like, your hair and, like, pigtails. She's like, I feel like a little dot. A little girl again. So then they're just like, by the.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Way that Bri does this. So Laura comes in and Bre. Like, Alicia just came in. She was like, what's wrong with Serena? She was just, like, really upset. What are we gonna do about it? She goes, go grab her. Go grab her and bring her in here because she doesn't open up, and she'll open up to me. Go get her. So gross.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, yeah, so Bri brings Alicia in. So now the three of them, the three blondies are talking. And Lisa's like, to be honest, nothing and everything at the same time is going on. I don't get told what's going on on about the guest food with crew food. And I'm like, what have you done? And she's like, I'm doing it. And I'm like, well, just tell me what the is going on. And I make me feel really useless, and it's getting worked up. It's not what I wanted. And Lara's like, you know, I feel like Alicia is losing her spark. I'm like, she's the same. She's not losing her spark. And she's not in your department either. Her. The level of her spark is not up for you to fix. If you see that, it seems like her spark is. Is going away. You speak to Zarina about it as a head of department, and I think it is weird. Weird to court someone to talk about another head of department to you. I feel like that's really bad. Like, it should just be like, you talk in your own department about stuff like that.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Well, she did it all the time with. With the other dude who got fired. We von, but we didn't, like, beyond. So we were like, it's okay for that. But she's doing. I mean, it's really the same old tricks. I Mean for me. Look, here it is. Alicia, first of all, never really had a spark. I like Alicia, but she's not like. Like someone you'd meet and be like, oh, my God, there's a fire burning in her. You know, she's nice. Yeah, but she's sparkless. Okay, let's just say she's sparkless. I said it. And second, it's not cool how Serena has been acting in there. So I'm not going to stand up for Serena. And it is okay for Alicia to vent to people. We all have that right at work. But Alicia knows that Serena is slightly traumatized by Lara and by going and bitching to Laura. Lara, that's really uncool on her part. That's just bad. That's just bad friend code. And she knows what she's doing, and I don't like it. She's, like, deciding, okay, I'm not on this girl's team anymore. Now I'm on these girls team against Serena. And I think it's.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I don't like it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I think. I think that Lara, what her role in this is, that she should go up to Zarina and say, hey, look, I don't know what's going on with you and Alicia, but she's kind of, like, moping around. So I feel like you guys need to have a talk, and you guys should fix it. Like, that's what she should say. And instead of. Instead of like, like, yes, everyone's allowed to vent, but I think professionally, she should sort of say, ooh, they are having an issue. And rather than just kind of like, be gossipy about it and. And sort of, like, foster more of it, she should, like, encourage the two of them to bond and sort of stay out of it and, like, get them back on track.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah. Because from the building the case part of all of this, I think she's the one who's always building the case. She's like, okay, you know, I'm gonna drag her into this room and going to get her to open up. Then I'm going to have all this against Serena. And it's just. She's just an. This girl's such a. She's so mean. I don't like her. So she's like, well, you know, I feel like you're holding it in. And she like, no, I mean, I just. I feel like I want to cry. You know, I want to cry and cry and cry. And Serena comes in. In her bikini. She's like, holla. All right, we're gonna oh, wait, am I. Is this a private conversation then? Cuz she totally busts them. They all look at her, like, especially look way.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Carroll]

He's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, beat Shelby. And she's like, oh, so are you sad? And Lisa's like, I'm bothered. She's like, oh, you. Why are you bothered? She was like, I'm just hot and bothered. So Zarina's like this. She's like, are you kidding me? Of course, if. If my sou chef wants to talk to me, she can now. Just cannot help herself, can she? This is. This is just classic school attitude. And why was I so naive and stupid to put her on a pedestal just so she could look right down on me and laugh? I thought we were friends. Ridiculous.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah. Called it. Called it. Serena. I think she's calling it pretty well. So Laura's like, well, oh, God, that could not be worth timing. Am I right? I mean, I was ready to say, I think we need to air this, but I just don't know if you're ready to say anything now. And Alicia says, it's not worth it. You did say something, but you already did. I mean, I think she communicated it very well to Serena, so I don't understand why she's acting like she never gets a chance to say anything. She did. And Serena didn't have a fit with you. She just kept working with you. And she's like, well, I'm not going to let it make my life misery. And she goes, yes. I mean, but you still need to respect and care for your crew members, you know, because we're together, all of us, on a team. Team strawberry. Am I right? Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Harry and Brie are cuddling, and Harry's saying that, you know, like, everything. Everyone's getting along well. He's like, and by the way, Knight said that I'm late deckhand. And Bree's like, oh, okay. Is that, like. Is that, like, an official title? Is that. Oh, should I have a bigger reaction? Oh, cool. That's exciting for you. She doesn't care at all.

[Ronnie Carroll]

It's like every day. You're so positive. It's so well deserved. Harry, you want to make out now? He's like, no, not really. Time for bed. Go to your own bed. She's like, oh, God. We need to discuss this. So Alicia is talking to Nate, and, oh, so they're in the hot tub. So he goes to the hot tub, and she comes out looking good, gorge. And she gets in with him, and he's doing that thing where he's like, oh, I'm a confident man with my. My hand behind my head. He's like, got his armpit bared and he's just got his. His arm here is too long, like trimming, you know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I just wanted to go in there with some little scissors and just trim it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And so she's looking at his tattoos. She's like, like, what's that fish on? What's that fish on your thing? Which, by the way, thing. Also known as an arm. I know, exotic word. What's that fish on your thing? He's like, oh, that's a salmon. It's my last name. I'm a very literal person. So since. Since my last name's Salmon, I got a salmon tattooed on my arm just in case I forgot what my life's name is.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And he's like, what's that on yours? And she's like, oh, I've got a tattoo of Swoozy Kurts because she's the lesser of the sisters.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, I often said she was a top tier one, but that's all right.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Well, I mean, there was CA to contend with, wasn't there? So.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, she's number one, obviously. I always thought the. The most list one. The lesser one was the one he used to be married to. Bruce Springsteen, whatever her name was.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Well, I didn't want to compare recognizable tattoo, did I?

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, who cares about Julianne Phillips or more it.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Exactly. I don't even remember her on that television show. But, you know, here's to completely on the nose tattoos.

[Ben Mandelker]

At least Patricia Kimber works.

[Ronnie Carroll]

So she gets out. She gets out. And he's like, go, damn. What? Oh, no, he gets out. Actually, he's like, enjoy your hot tub. And he's like, marriage coming.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, we also have his backstory. Hello. Which is that he used to be a ski person. He's a ski bum. And then he like crashed and he broke his leg. And then he was in bed for a long time and got sad and then was like, well, I can either be sad or I could start watching Sisters because one day I'll meet a girl who has a tattoo of one of them. And I did. But on top of that, I thought, let's also learn how to be a boson.

[Ronnie Carroll]

You're the master of your own ship and I've got to remember that Swoozy Kurtz for life. But we also find out we were joking around. But when she goes, oh. Oh, you're Salmon. Well, Hello, Salmon. Meet Mrs. Bean. That's her name, Alicia Bean.

[Ben Mandelker]

Do you think she's related to Mr. Bean?

[Ronnie Carroll]

That's what I love about it. I mean, that would be one of these. Yeah. So speak much, but he's quite a joker.

[Ben Mandelker]

Lots of facial expressions, which is why I choose to have very few. It's a rebellion. So then Nate's telling Nick, he's like, oh, bro, Alicia came up, red lipstick and little red headband, looking like a pinup girl. You know, being tattoo on that thing of hers. Her arm. Yeah, that. God. Danger zone.

[Ronnie Carroll]

All way to the danger zone. So then Alicia is texting Johnny that she misses him and she's not as positive without him here. And now everybody is getting ready to go out and party. Jason compliments Harry's clothes, he's really stepping his up. And now we're in taxis to dinner. So Serena's asking Nate if he's in a hopeless romantic. And Nick's like, well, I've only had one proper relationship that was four years and eight arms long. God, I missed that girl.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, well, I feel like you're not a one night stand kind of guy. It's like, no, there needs to be a connection there and also several limbs, otherwise there's no point.

[Ronnie Carroll]

So now at dinner everyone's like, oh, Nick, sit next to Marina. And she's like, look at me. My feet don't touch the ground because, oh, your feet are swinging. That is absolutely adorable.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then there everyone's just like chatting and Elise is wondering if she's a masochist, if she says she misses Johnny. And Harry's like, oh, there's nothing wrong with missing Johnny. I'm at the same time though, there's two new people and you know, if you, if you do have any sort of interest in them, I would love that because then I could call up Johnny and tattle on you. So, you know, have at it.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I was like, oh, I've got myself in a funk, I just need to go have a smoke. So Serena goes with her and Serena's asking if she's okay and she's like, what do you think of the new boys? And she's like, I mean, they're okay, but I'm still missing Johnny. And Serena's like, I mean, he just uplifted. Did you. You know, you don't have to talk about it, but isn't that wonderful when you've got a friendship of someone who uplifts you instead of going to talk behind your back to Laura? Isn't that fun?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And Elisa's like, yeah, yeah, I haven't felt Very bubbly. Recently, she's, oh, is there a reason for it? It's like, yeah, I think it's hard when we're in that box together. And by we're in that box, I mean, you're acting like a moody, and I'm just trying to figure out how many eggs I have to crack open.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And she's like, well, you know, look, I can't always say thank you and say things nicely. All right? If I say, hey, grab that for me. Just grab it. And she goes, but that's not what bothers me. I don't know. When I took the picnic and you were like, oh, so you can do this without your head chef being here? Like, it was just so condescending. And she's like, oh, God. I wasn't being condescending. I was just mad at Laura because she made me go. You know, and then, you know, and then you go, lara. And then, why am I there? Till she takes and covers off something where I'm like, why am I there? All we need to do is uncover stuff. Like, why is she incapable of doing that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Right? At least is like, well, I just guess I need to throw some. Grow some thicker skin. She said, no, I'm really sorry if I. Sometimes it seems passive aggressive and overly sarcastic. I just cannot hide any of my emotions. Like, okay, so now they, like, they've mended. Not really. I kind of feel like they didn't talk about the court issue, but they've kind of mended for now. And they hug. It was like, a nice moment of resolution. Was like, I was a little stressed out about their rift. So this was good.

[Ronnie Carroll]

I think this was really good. They said there. She said her feelings, which she was right about Alicia. At the end of the day, she was like, I mean, why are you treating me like that? And she said, okay, I was being an. I'm sorry for being an. And she didn't bring Laura into it, which I thought was pretty mature and professional. So, you know what? On the professional scale, you guys. You are so professional. You guys are like, number 20, 24, and 25 on the women's excellence scale in Dubai.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow. So they really did it. So Zarina's, like, saying, I've been focusing so much on trying to get Lara off my tits that I've been an to Alicia, and now I, you know, not. And that's not how I work. So she's like, I. She realizes, okay, I've been. I've been too mean to her. So now the boys are in the Bathroom. Just talking about girls and everything. Which girls they like and everything like that. And then everyone goes off to the next. To the club to dance. Dance. And then Lara sits down with Zarina to talk and. Or, I'm sorry, with Alicia. And she's like, so, strawberry, did you have a chat with Zarina? Was yahenus you as usual? God, she's awful. Am I right?

[Ronnie Carroll]

And, yeah, I mean, she was just talking about, you know, the industry and just said it's cheffing. And Laura's like, no, I hate that saying it's the industry. It's not the industry. You don't have to talk about people like that. You don't have to be like that. That. It's just such a dated thing to say. Like, it doesn't have to be like that, you know? Laura. Laura. Okay. Laura's like, no, don't let her off the hook. Still be pissed off at her.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I don't like that. I didn't like this because everything was, like, good in that department, and now she's meddling, you know?

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, she's. And so Laura's like, how we talk to crew members matters, period. Okay. Just because you're a chef doesn't mean that you can talk to someone like, like, like. It doesn't work like that.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

We're all adults. We're all professionals. We need to respect each other. That's it.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Oh, yeah. We need to be professionals and just roll our eyes at each other and talk behind each other's back and get factions of each other to not like each other. That's what professionals do. You're not rude to someone's face.

[Ben Mandelker]

Look, she's not wrong, but they settled it. They. They covered this. And.

[Ronnie Carroll]

And head of department, she. She had a talk with somebody who she knew was annoying. She apologized, they communicated about it, and they fixed it. And you. Another head of department is going to come in and try and trample all over it and cause more discord. You suck. You suck. And you suck at your job.

[Ben Mandelker]

So shame on you. So shame on you.

[Ronnie Carroll]

This is the point where I get too angry about somebody on Below Deck and my life starts to make any sense. And then I'm at the grocery store and I'm like, why was Laura so mean to Serena? And it just goes downhill. And that means the season needs to end soon. Because I don't like being. I don't like feeling like, this way about people on tv, but I'm mad.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And by the way, in the middle of all this. Nick and Marina do make out on the dance floor. Just want to say that. And it's exciting. So now Zarina, he's, like, doing, like.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Really awkward nerd dancing. She's like, oh, my God, you can move. I'm like, no, no, just don't encourage us. But then they make, you know, it's cute. Cute, awkward people. She's not awkward, but, like, I like awkward love. Awkward love's cute.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And she loves that he's a nerd, you know? So Zarina, Serena's like, oh, Mommy needs to sit down. And Lara's like, oh, so how are you feeling? She goes, well, I have the Alicia stuff on my mind a lot, and she's so with the fairies all the time. Well, she doesn't feel loved right now. She feels like you don't like her. And I'll be completely honest. Sometimes you can say something to me, me, and it will make me feel stupid. I'm like, why?

[Ronnie Carroll]

See, here she goes, turning it all around us. After being passive aggressive all day, she's gonna come in and try and start a fight with somebody else and make it look like she's the victim. So Serena's like, well, but I have exactly the same as you, though, because in the last charter, that's the first time in my whole career I've ever had a stewardess tell me what to plate on. And that absolutely shocked me.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love that this really all comes down to those plates. Like, this was, like, the most. The plating of the Mafia night meal was the straw that broke the camel's back here. So Lahara's like, well, it should be a joint decision on what's best for the table. Yeah. But I feel like you wouldn't let it go unless I said yes. But that's because I know that my vision's the correct one. And your vision is the disgusting one. That's the way it always works. You're like the ogre in the clock tower, and I'm the beautiful one that people love up. That's just life.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah. I mean, as far as just taking my annoyance with Laura away as far as that doesn't. Don't they discuss that on every other one? Like, okay, what plates should we use tonight? Well, we're doing this theme, so let's use these plates. I've seen that it should have been discussed ahead so many times on Below Deck that I'm shocked that it even came to this. And I'm also shocked that a chef would be like, what do you mean? I can't use these plates. Like, it seems kind of normal in a decoration thing. But, yeah, I agree that Lara should have said earlier what to start. They should have decided it earlier. It just seems like a weird fight because we've seen this go on on a million below decks and it's never been a problem.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I mean, honestly, I am Team Lara and the plate choice. I think that the white plates were the better choice in this situation. But it is weird that it was not discussed ahead of time and, like, you know, figured out the moment the preference sheet came out.

[Ronnie Carroll]

Yeah. So Serena's like, she just doesn't give a shit about me. And that is how we end. And.

[Ben Mandelker]

This rift that will continue to grow and grow and grow. Well, thanks, everyone for being here. Hope you all have lovely plates to put your next meal on. And I hope they do not cause as much strife as these plates caused between Lara and Zarina. Go check out our website, watchwalkcraftens.com to get tickets to our live shows and we will catch you on the next episode. Bye, everyone.

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