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Ben
Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?
Ronnie
Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. I'm Ronnie and that is Ben. Welcome to Texas Week. Texas Week. Yeehaw. We're excited because guess what? We're in Austin this Friday night recapping Summer House and then we're in Dallas the following night recapping Vanderpump Rules Classic Season 6, Episode 5 Sex, Lies and Audio Tape. We'll be in Vegas the following Greek recapping. I think Summer House. I'm not even sure if it's over by then. We'll see. After that we added shows in Seattle and Los Angeles in June, so come to any of those or all of those. Go to watch what Crappens for your ticket links and that's also where you find links to our Patreon, which is where you get our bonus episodes. This week we are doing a Trailer trash breakdown for the Real Housewives of Miami new season. Last week we did Below Deck. Before that we did Next Gen nyc. We've got White Lotus recaps, all the traders. And soon in June, soon in June, we begin our Love island coverage only on Patreon. So join us over there for some good times. How are you feeling today, Ben?
Ben
Well, I have to say. Well, first of all, Summer House will definitely still be on next week. So I think we can. I think we can lock that one in for Vegas because, you know, the summer house season has been hot. I'll tell you how I'm feeling, which is that we have breaking Bravo news.
Ronnie
Actually, I don't know Peter. Oh, well, you know Peter.
Ben
Oh, well, you know Peter. Alexa News Network.
Ronnie
Hello. Welcome to the Alexia News Network.
Ben
Alexa News Network has some up, has some updates. What's that? My breaking news singer has apparently a crying sound effect on the back end of it, which is. Well, you know what it is? There's someone in the press corps who is very emotional right now. Sir, if you're going to cry during a press conference, please take it outside.
Ronnie
Thank you, Marisol. She hasn't even said anything yet. Okay.
Ben
That'S not big. Was a real nice touch. This is the breaking news. Bravo tv. We were just chatting. We were just chatting before we started the podcast. Just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I happened to look down and while we were chatting, Bravo made an announcement about four new shows. And they got me so excited, I just had to break out the break. New stinger.
Ronnie
Oh, yeah, some of these. What are they?
Ben
Yeah, some of the shows we have already sort of heard rumors about, etc. Okay. The first show, the Real Housewives of Rhode island, which. Yes, yes, yes, what that means.
Ronnie
But I'm so excited. Like, isn't Rhode Island a state?
Ben
It is, it is. Remember, this was an issue that Giselle feature had. She didn't know where Rhode island was. But Rhode island is a state. And in fact, we, as we've mentioned this so many times, we were ardent fans of the one hit wonder game of Crowns, which took place largely in Rhode island and. All right, it's just great. It's. It's gonna be great. This is gonna also fill the void, I think a little bit of the Real Housewives of New Jersey because you also get like a really strong Italian American situation up there. So this is the land of state.
Ronnie
So what's wrong with me? I can, I can, I can survive this. So then hiding Rhode Island. Holy crap. I never Would have thought that that was gonna be a thing. I did read rumors of that. I heard Rhode island thr also heard like Chicago and what was the other one? They keep saying another Texas one, but I doubt it. But Rhode island seemed the most far fetched. But yeah, I'm in.
Ben
It's great because you get like the Massachusetts. You sort of. It's like Massachusetts adjacent. So you get like sort of the mass hole thing, you know, which is great. But then you also have that Rhode island element. I mean DJ Paulie V, he is from there. So DJ Pauly dude, not polyv. Really excited about that one. The next one. This is. I did not see this one coming. This one floored me. Returning to Bravo Ladies of London.
Ronnie
Whoa, really? How interesting. I wonder. So wait there are they still doing Real Housewives of London? Because that's not a Bravo show. I wonder what they have like retooled.
Ben
I just scrolled. They have little blurbs. Okay, well let me read the blurb about Rhode Island. It says the Rhode island franchise expands the world of tight knit circle Rhode Islanders who have deep community roots and families that go back generations with aspirational lives. Okay, this is just. Okay. Lays the London is back with a new wave of British blue bloods, ambitious American expats and glamorous international socialites. As tradition clashes with the fast paced and globalized world, these power players redefine the what it means to be a woman of status in one of the most iconic cities in the world. Here, connections and currency are the cr and the crown isn't the only thing up for grabs. Caroline Fleming better be part of this. That's why I've got to say right now.
Ronnie
Cast Breeze. Strawberries. Okay, so what else?
Ben
The next one. The Valley, Persian style. Yes. It looks like it's a spin off of the Valley. Reza, Gigi and mj.
Ronnie
Well, they finally did it.
Ben
They did it. They share an unbreakable bond, one built on years of friendship, fiery clashes, and the kind of history that never fades. They also share a deep connection to their Persian culture. Something that runs just as strong in the group of friends that they now call family. As they take on the next stage of life in the valley. Their world is bigger, their circle is bolder, and their challenges are more real than ever. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So those three, they did it. So Shah as the sunset is resurrected in the form of the Valley.
Ronnie
That is crazy. Wow. Okay. And then I found, I found the fourth one and we had talked about this a little bit. This is wife swap. The Real Housewives edition. When a Real housewife takes off her stilettos and steps into a Real Housewives shoes. Oh, better off. As two of entertainment's most iconic franchises are mash up, leading to laugh out loud moments, personal epiphanies, and an opportunity to see if the grass is truly greener. They are not saying what who's in it, but the rumors are it's Emily, Melissa Gorga. I forgot the other ones, so that's good. These sound fun.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
Especially a new real house, a couple new lady shows, which we desperately need. I was just thinking, I had a long drive because I had to go into the city to see about getting my droopy eyelids done by. If any. Any. If anybody wants to do my droopy eyelids as a hobby. I'm into hobbyists, so call me. By that, I mean for free. If you're just practicing and you're sick of practicing droopy eyelids on frogs, call me. Yeah. Anyway, at a long drive and I was thinking, because I was so sick of listening to the show I was listening to, I was like, why isn't Jersey filming? Why. Why is it not filming yet? This isn't fair to us. We need it back. What's Bravo doing? They're. They've got all these housewives shows sitting on the, you know, the back burner, not doing anything. We need our housewives. This is not okay. We saw some new dating show, some Tyson Beckford show. I don't want that. I want my housewives. Give me my house. So I feel like this is a gift from the universe after being called wonky eyed by the eye doctor who, by the way. Thanks a lot.
Ben
You're. You're not wonky eyed. No.
Ronnie
But, you know, I want someone like you to tell me you're not wonky eyed, but I can fix your die.
Ben
You know, you don't want some doctor.
Ronnie
Like, oh, we can, you know, don't worry. Everybody's kind of wonky eyed. Who wants to hear that? I didn't even bring up my aunt. It's like going in there and being like, hey, I have droopy eyelids. And they're like, well, you can get. You should get your tits done. Like, I didn't talk about that. Are you bringing that up?
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
Well, anyway, I'm excited. I feel like it was a gift handed to me personally.
Ben
It is a gift. I needed it this morning too, because I, I didn't. I wasn't diagnosed with a wonky eyelid, but I. I had this flourishing pepper plant that I just potted, and it was just doing beautiful things. And some caterpillar who probably will be on the Real Housewives of Rhode island has and chopped off almost every single. There's one leaf left. It was this big thing. I was like, it's doing so well. And I came, went out there, and there's one leaf left. And I was so mad. I was, like, literally furious. And this news has now really turned it around for me. So while you were dealing with your wonky eyelet, I'm dealing with. With this caterpillar from hell. And this news really saved our day. So thank you. Bravo. I'm excited, especially for Rhode island and ladies of London. Ladies in London. That was a real surprise. Did not see that coming at all. I totally agree with you, ladies. Shows are back. We need more of them. And I can't wait to see what these are. You know, the. The wife swap thing? I'm not. I don't really care about that one, to be honest. I'm gonna say right now. I'll check it out.
Ronnie
Like, I don't want to have to see anybody live with Shane. I mean, what the hell? Like, Emily. Emily's annoying enough on her own show. Why would you give her another one? But listen, it's gonna be.
Ben
It'll be.
Ronnie
Don't complain about your toys while Santa's still in the house. Right? And Santa is still here. Get your hands off my cookies. He's still here, so thank you, Santa. I won't complain till later. I'll wait till tomorrow.
Ben
Thank you. Bravo, Santa.
Ronnie
But today we do have things to complain about because it's the Valley day. It's another week of making us try to feel sorry for Jax. Still not gonna happen. Okay, Jax has spent his week selling zero tickets for his man tour or whatever the. He's doing his like. Hey, guys, it's me, Jax. You know, you guys should come, because I'm, like, Christian now. I love God, and I put crucifixes in my. My Instagra stories. Come see my live show about sobriety at a bar, which is his latest thing. He is literally posting Instagram stories with prayer hands and crucifixes. Jax, you're not on death row. There is no reason to pretend you're Christian right now, okay? You're not trying to get your sentence reduced, and no one's buying this, okay? So keep it. You can keep that to yourself.
Ben
Yeah, yeah. This is the inevitable path that Jackson go down. You know, he's going to run into sort of like, very Christian coded stuff and just pander to. To that audience now. And it will. It will not be long before he's doing all the right wing circles. Like, it's. That's just what he's gonna do. You know, he'll be up there touring with Rob Schneider.
Ronnie
So Jesus know that when he died on that cross, he was going to be used for eternity as, like, douchebag band aids. It's like douchebag reputation, band aids. Okay. Jesus aspired for more. You know what I mean? God, leave the guy alone. How long has he been dead? 20. 20. 20, 25 years? - 30. Leave the guy alone.
Ben
Yeah. Seriously. So, yeah, Jax is. Jax is so terrible. And we really got a wonderful new. Not new insight, but we just got to see more insight today, so. But there's a lot of toxicity to go around. So let's start off. So we're at Jesse's house, and he's packing with his dog and Isabella because they're about to go on the cash trip to Santa Barbara. So he's asking Isabella what. What. What he should pack. And she's like. So he's like, okay, cool.
Ronnie
She picks him some flower shoes. And he's like, thanks for your taste. Well, one of you's gotta have it.
Ben
Someone does.
Ronnie
Someone needs it. Someone needs it in this. In this family. Because it ain't you. It ain't you. Dead eyes.
Ben
All right, and then we have Aaron and Michelle are eating breakfast or something, and, you know, his eyes are bugging out and he's like, so are you having second thoughts about going to the trip at all? Honestly, I have so many emotions. I'm so confused. A part of me just wants to stay home and not deal with it, but a part of me wants to be on tv. Yeah.
Ronnie
And she's like, anything could happen with Jesse. So. Dun, dun, dun. What's gonna happen? I'll tell you. She went on Watch what Happens live with Zach last night, and I just watched the first couple of minutes because, you know, I can only take so much wooing and that whole show is built on. So I can only watch a couple minutes. But, wow, that lady needs to stop at the charisma store. There's, like, no spark in there. She needs to get a new battery put in or like something's wrong with her. I felt kind of bad for her. And Andy pulled Zach's hair to make sure it was real. It's real. It's just really thick. Isn't that crazy? He has, like, crazy thick hair, you know? Why does Zach get to say horrible things to people and get thick hair. But I say horrible things to people, and you made me BALD at, like, 25. I mean, what the hell? While we've got. While we've got. Jesus in this discussion, I'm standing up for you against douchebags. Give me some hair and less wonky eyes.
Ben
Wow. It's just a. It's just a big spiral today, huh? Everything's. Everything's really sending you down a path. And listen, I get it.
Ronnie
I'm in the middle of the path. I'm not down the path. I'm already. I started this show. I've already. I started the show in the middle of the path.
Ben
No, I know. This actually means you're in a great mood.
Ronnie
Yeah, I am.
Ben
I'm like.
Ronnie
I'm, like, firing. I'm ready. I'm ready to get anybody who gets in my way. So that's when I'm in my happy place.
Ben
Yeah. Like, if you're not watching. He has a big smile on his face.
Ronnie
Someone said that a few weeks ago about the Crappens on Demand videos. They said, wow, Ronnie's actually happier than I thought. He smiles the whole show. I thought he was, like, miserable and just hating everything, but he's. Yeah, I'm smiled. This is fun for me.
Ben
This is his happy place.
Ronnie
Yeah.
Ben
That's why we tune in. That's why we're here.
Ronnie
Thanks, Ben. Thanks for tuning in, Ben.
Ben
That's why I tuned into the show that I'm employed on.
Ronnie
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Everyone has that friend who seems kind of perfect for Patty. That friend was Desiree. Until one day I texted her and.
Ronnie
She was not getting the text. So I went to Instagram. She has no Instagram anymore. And Facebook. No Facebook anymore.
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I'm calling to check on the two missing Brazilian girl, maybe get some undercover crew there.
Ben
The family are freaking out.
Ronnie
They are lost.
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Ben
Either way, though, no, it's funny. Zach's hair. I mean, yes, it's thick, but I still don't understand why it's in that style then. Like, like, people have thick hair, but they don't. They don't. They just don't style their hair. Like wigs, you know, but it's the value.
Ronnie
Like, we can't question the style too much or we'll be here all day. Like, the style in this show today, I mean, all of them, really, I don't think any of them made it out well styled today. And I'm an old Navy queen, so it's not like I'm that judgmental usually, but even I'm like, oh, God, Polly.
Ben
I don't know what's going on with Brittany. Can we talk about. Well, I don't know what's going on with Britney's styling these days. I. I don't know what she's going for, but it is, it is just. It is. I. I can't. I don't know.
Ronnie
It's bad.
Ben
It's really bad. It's so bad.
Ronnie
Oh, go ahead.
Ben
Yeah. No, I think she's, like, trying to show off the tatas because they're big and glorious, but like. And she's just showing them off in strange ways.
Ronnie
It's just the. The makeup is bad. You know, it's the whole thing. It's the styling, it's not the person. You know, Like, Britney's annoying, but she's like a cute girl. But her. Yeah, it's the eyebrow markers and then the lipstick slatter and the too much base bordello outfit she was wearing today. It was like lace glitter bordello open down the Middle with.
Ben
I just.
Ronnie
What? What are you doing? What are you doing? I mean, here's what you're doing. I'll tell you this. You're entertaining me because I laugh every time. I start cracking up every day. That outfit today was hilarious.
Ben
It's just every. Every week, there's something where I'm like, really? This is the choice you made? Okay.
Ronnie
Choices while she married Jax.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
Country songs. Can Brittany sing? Because I feel like she could pull off a country career. I feel like she could pull it off.
Ben
She probably could. She probably sings like, beer cheese. I left him for beer cheese My.
Ronnie
Mom all got in her big old truck did you see that country TikTok that somebody made of Britney? And it's before he cheats, but instead of before he cheats, it's like before he overdoses on cocaine or whatever.
Ben
And that was crazy. That was crazy. That TikTok.
Ronnie
Whoever did that, that's some funny shit. People kept posting it, and I don't have the sound turned on on my tiktoks because they make me crazy. And I just thought it was, like a Britney montage, but people kept posting and posting it. So finally I watched it, and I laughed my ass. I mean, I felt kind of guilty for laughing my ass off, but I was good.
Ben
It was really. It was so deranged. So anyway, Zach is wearing a baseball hat, okay? So he's like, so I want to talk about cinnabar bra. Because, like, every fiber of my being is, like, worried that this is gonna be insane shit show. And I feel like Janet has, like, tried to constantly, like, take me down or get me out of this group. And I'm like, shrug, just like you would do, Kristen. Seriously, why hold on to that horrible grudge? Kristen? Kristen, who still won't talk to Janet, also is like, Kristen still gives interviews.
Ronnie
On how Lisa Vanderpump ruined her life, like, literally. And Zach's like, because it's ridiculous. Okay, so then we go to Danny and Nia's condo. This building needs help. Now, I know that they. They did end up buying a house in Santa Clarita. That was all over the news. This. They're like, oh, my God. India versus Pakistan. Danny and Nia move to Santa Clarita. Which should we put on top? But this condo needs some help. It's. There's. Did you notice the outside of it? I was like, ouch. Yeah, we need, like, a valley hoa or something because there's tiles falling off everywhere. There's, like, holes in the stucco. It looks bad, sad.
Ben
Yeah, it's. It's very. It's like a very, very sad and unfortunately emblematic building for the Valley. Like, there's so many of these buildings that look like that. And I say this as someone who went into the Valley two nights ago. Guys, I was there. I was there. I survived. I saw a lot of these buildings. I was actually right. I was actually right by. I was close to where you are, Ronnie, but you obviously are you.
Ronnie
Oh, thanks.
Ben
You have a much nicer place. But I was thinking about you. I was like, oh, I'm in Ronnie's neighborhood.
Ronnie
But, yeah, yeah, this is where Ronnie lives. What a hole. I can't wait to talk about this on this.
Ben
Ronnie lives in a nice part, though. There's, like. There's, like, nice. There's like. There's like, the left side of the right side, and Ronnie's on the left side.
Ronnie
I love the Val. I'm just saying, you know, we need to fix our tiles. You know what I mean? If all the tiles are broken off of the. The rim of the building, you got to fix them. I mean, there's children live there. Children.
Ben
It's a sad building. It's a sad, sad building there. And they're. That's a sad building. And it's also sad on the inside, too. Like, every time we go to Danny and Nia's condo, I just sort of cringe and feel uncomfortable, and I'm, like, not at ease until we go to another scene.
Ronnie
Yeah, they're, like, always, like, feeding the baby right by the treadmill that stuck in the living room. I'm like, this is uncomfortable. Like, I know this is real life, and people do that, you know? But I'm watching tv. I don't want to watch a. I'll turn on TLC if I want to see some poor mom trying to breastfeed and, like, stab the way of the treadmill.
Ben
Yeah. And really nothing. Nothing really.
Ronnie
Could they have treadmills on tlc? Just kidding. Go ahead. What?
Ben
They just have treads. The nothing really summarizes the LA experience. Like, honestly, Danny. What's his name? Danny Buco or Danny Zuko or something like that. Of course his name is like that. Like, his existence is the LA experience, which is he's this guy who will simultaneously brag about starring in a movie that was a parody of Fast and the Furious, this while living, like, cheek by jowl with his peloton and, like, a coffee machine and having no room in his apartment. So it's like. It's all. It's all about sort of like, presenting like you are, you know, the figurehead of an amazing franchise. And the truth is, you're just crammed right on in there with your. With your Costco boxes.
Ronnie
Oh, man, that shows dark, so. And by that, I mean watch a crap. So we go to me and Danny. Yeah. They're in their horrible, horribly rundown slum, and she's like, I don't want to bring kids on the trip. We need to get some sleep. And he's like, after some love making.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
No.
Ben
And then we go to Janet and Jason's house with their iconically low hood in the kitchen. And, I mean, Ronnie, listen, if we're gonna be raising some hoods, we have to deal with their hood before we get to your eyelids, okay? Because that's the thing that really needs to be hoisted up. It's too low. It's too low. Tell your doctor. Tell your doctor to go do something about their oven hood.
Ronnie
The doctor's like, I can raise your hood. I can't do anything about your wonky eye, unfortunately.
Ben
It's like, I just happen to be very handy when it comes to home repairs.
Ronnie
So what are they doing over there? I don't care. So everybody's going to be leaving from the same house. So they all are meeting up there. And J. Jesse is wearing, like, a shirt with grapes on it because he's going to wine country. So.
Ben
Yeah.
Ronnie
He'S a themed person. You know, that's. That's what you do. You go to wine country. So you bring your grape shirt and your dead eyes.
Ben
And Janet's like, where did you get those? That shirt. I didn't see that on sale at Dave and Busters. And he's like, well, we're going on a wine trip, so I'm gonna wear a wine shirt. He really knows how to take all the joy out of, like, a fun. A fun, silly shirt, right? Like, he's just, like, so serious about it. And everyone's like, okay, that's great. So now we go to the car and, like, where everyone's in different cars, and we're in one car with Danny, Nia, and Jasmine and Zach, and they're all driving together. And Zach is like, nia, I don't know if I told you this, but Bungie is going to move here in, like, two months. And he's like, oh, wow, who's that again? Can you see this, like, long term with whoever this person is? He's like, no. Yeah, I would marry him, like, right now, but apparently I need to buy a Swiffer first before he considers any such proposals.
Ronnie
Why wouldn't I marry him? He calls me like a nasty footed helmet headed freak. I'm into it. And Jasmine's like, oh yeah, yeah. On that topic, I got you a little piece of Benji. I made him a stick figure. Isn't that cute? It's like a little, little popsicle stick with, with Benji on it. And he's like, oh my God, what is that? What is that? Is that Benji? It's Benji. It's like Benji on a stick. This is great. It's literally insane.
Ben
It's Benji. It's Benji. Yeah, it's Benji. Yeah, it's spongy. It's Benji. It's spongy. So he's like, this is hilarious. Hi. Oh wait, let's do a pantomime. Wait a second. I can do this. I got some. Okay. Hi, Benji. Hi, Zach. I'm Zach. I'm Benji. How are. Oh no. Oh no, I lost my Benji. Oh, Benji's not here anymore. He saw that. He saw my apartment and he left the car. Okay, that's fine. Doesn't have to come in the trip.
Ronnie
He's like, let me think of something really funny to say. Benji, say it in my ear. You hate Janet too. Just kidding. Benji didn't say that. I said it.
Ben
So in the other car we have Brittany, Michelle, Janet and Jason. And Brittany's getting texts because her phone is dinging. And Michelle is like, don't e even read it, Britney. I say this as someone who has a year 2007 text to voice. Voice.
Ronnie
Please do not even read the dags. And Britney's like, well, guess what, y' all. He's texting me all day long. I found out he's in therapy almost seven hours a day. So they take his phone while he's in there and then he gets 15 minute breaks and then comes out on the 15 minute break and race texts me and then goes back into the therapy and then comes back out. Ray checks me and goes back into therapy.
Ben
One of the main reasons why Jackson this mental health facility right now is because it adds because of his anger issues and his rage. And it also. I actually thought that whenever he was in there for 30 days, I thought I'd be able to have some kind of place. But we see the. Guess what? Here's what we see now. Some text messages from jx.
Ronnie
These text messages are horrifying. Okay, so we see some pop up on the screen and it's like, please don't lie to Me? I'm not playing your game. Just be honest. I want this place to for me. And I'll crumble if I find out you're doing that. He's the liar. Can you talk to me? Talk to me. Why aren't you calling me? Why are you calling me? Sickness and health, Jack. You're broken up. You were just some girl the other day in your house and left the thong on the countertop. Stop acting like she's your wife. You are. You are separated. You kicked her out of the house with your son so you could keep people in there. Please. Yeah, with your sickness and in health.
Ben
Yeah, maybe. She vows stay by you in sickness and health, but not in sluttiness and health. Health. And that's basically what you are. So. No. Yes.
Ronnie
It's not in sickness and abuse I will stay with.
Ben
Well, yeah, that's exactly what this is. These text messages are so awful. I don't know why she hasn't blocked him or at least put him on, like, no notifications. Because this is not good for her mental health. And this is. I mean, it's terrible. Honestly, I felt genuinely awful for Brittany that she has to deal with this monster sending these incessant texts. And this is just what we're seeing in this sliver of life. Think about all the years that she received these text messages and the years that she covered up for him and giggled and acted like it was okay when she was in. She was trapped with this monster of a man. I mean, this guy's terrible. Absolutely terrible. I mean, I would. I would never send these text messages to anyone. And anyone who's receiving these sort of text messages from someone. I hope you realize you don't deserve them. And you can. And you. You should run. Should get out of that situation, because this is not normal and it's not right.
Ronnie
Yeah, he's disgusting. So then we go over to Jesse's car, and he's in his new, like, high end Beamer, and Kristen's just, like, laying down in the back. And I know that Jesse hated that because, you know when you have a new car, I mean, especially that one. That's a nice car. And Kristen's just all, like, in the back. I know that he's thinking in his mind, like, God damn it, I have to be nice to Kristen right now, but I want to eject her the. Out of this car.
Ben
Yeah. While she's in the back there singing off key Fleetwood Mac. So he's like, well, Michelle. Michelle hasn't even looked at me in the eyes yet this morning. Me neither. So there's that. Wait, she didn't look at me neither. Hey, and you know what? I heard Luke go, hi, Michelle. Remember Luke? Remember Luke when he said, hi Michelle? He's like, yeah. She looked down and away. I'm like, okay.
Ronnie
He's like, what's her problem? I hope it goes well, cuz I don't want chaos like the last. The last week or so. Shut up. You're gonna cause it. You're gonna be the one screaming and, and dead eye crying in the end in your weirdly fitting underwear.
Ben
Who.
Ronnie
Where'd you even get those?
Ben
Those bikini briefs that were like somewhere between like a thong and like grandpa. Grandpa underwear. I didn't understand how that.
Ronnie
Why are they like two sizes too big for you? Like what's happening?
Ben
There's.
Ronnie
I had a lot of questions about that underwear. It was like sumo wrestling. It was like sumo wrestling underwear, right?
Ben
Yeah, it was like baggy. It's almost like a diaper, but also like a bikini brief. And it also was like a weird shade of gray. It was the. Actually it was the shade of gray of my shirt. I have, I have, I have Jesse Lolly gray on today. That's my look, apparently.
Ronnie
No, because yours looks great. His looks like dirty. It looked like prison. Like prison dirty. You know, like sumo wrestler in prison for too long and they haven't let him watch his weird jock strap thing. Okay, so then Michelle, we cut to Michelle and she's like, I'm so Abby. He is the one that is always grooming and always upset. And I'm like, if you're so happy, be happy, but like, leave me alone. Do you know what I mean?
Ben
Yeah, because he's saying like, oh my God. She's always talking about how happy she is and it cuts her being like, I'm so happy. So then Britney's like, yeah, you guys are both like in full on relationships. And she's like, yeah, my plan is just to avoid Jesse as much as possible and have fun with my girlfriends. And I'm gonna be on the other side of the house not dealing with this bullshit commercials.
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Ben
By the way, I want to point. I want to bring up something. I don't think we talked about this. They filmed the the Valley reunion last week, which, like, this is episode four, I believe. So it's like, it's really early and it's because basically Nia and Kristen are pregnant and expecting soon. But the thing that people were talking about is the fact that Michelle was put on the last seat of the sofa opposite Jesse. So, like, Jesse's like third or fourth seat or something like that. That and Michelle is all at the end past Danny and Nia. What do you think about that, Ronnie?
Ronnie
Well, I think that the rest of the season is Danny, you know, grabbing Jasmine and her girlfriend's butt and being like a sexual perv. And then he gets called out on that. So I think the all that comes out and so it becomes them. The drama of the season becomes them. I think at least that's what we're seeing in previews.
Ben
That that's. I suspect it's that. I also think that I would not be surprised if Michelle said, literally, keep me as far away from Jesse as possible. And they're like, okay, but that means you're gonna be at the end of the sofa. She's like, I don't care. Like, that's the only way. Because honestly, even with Danny and Nia having issues, the Jesse and Michelle stuff is so central to the season. And I just am shocked that she's all the way back there and then people are dunking on her because she's all the way back there. But I'm like, Like, I don't know. I'm still more on her side than his side.
Ronnie
Well, yeah, he's the worst. But also, I don't know. I'm sure that Andy doesn't make these seating arrangements, you know, like, he probably doesn't care about this show, but he barely knows their names. I watch what happens live. He's like, and now we've got Michelle something or other and Zach. Oh.
Ben
I don't know. I'm still kind of the. Still kind of Garrett getting my. Get it get in. My, my, my. Getting my bearings here ever since I spilled that drink in front of Connie. Connie, what's her face. Did you see that clip he spilled? He spilled a drink on. On the show. And he then, like, became obsessed with picking up every single ice cube in the middle of the interview. And like, Connie, what's her face from Friday Night Lights was like, can we keep our.
Ronnie
Keep.
Ben
Keep going with this interview? And he's like, hold on. Gotta pick up all the ice. It's like, what is happening with Andy being determined to get every ice cube? It.
Ronnie
No, I didn't see that. That's funny, though. So then we go to Santa Barbara. It's a gorgeous home. This big Spanish home.
Ben
So nice.
Ronnie
And everyone's like, oh, my God, the wow. So they come, and then he'll only let them in if they leave the drama at the door. They're like, okay. And Jesse comes out and he's like, hey, guys, I got us all white flag flags. We've all got white flags. And Brittany's like, what's wild flag for? What's that for? And someone's like, I think it means peace. And Zach goes, that means that you, like, give up in war.
Ben
Yeah, I think white flags are surrender more than peace. But, yeah, that's fine. All these people need to surrender when you come. They already have.
Ronnie
Bring donuts.
Ben
That is precisely correct. And I would. I would really, like, love. I would love someone to come in peace for me right now. So. So Jesse's handing out these white flags, and he's like, michelle, you need a white flag more than anyone. She's like, no, thank you. So she does not take her white flag. Good for her. And they. And she just walks in and she's like, jesse, you don't get a pass for treating me like every single day. And now you called me in escort, so screw you and your white flag. Yeah.
Ronnie
So Jesse goes on and on about how old Spanish homes are, his vibe to sing. And then people get to pick their rooms. And Chris is like, oh, we can get a lot of baby making done in here with this view. And someone else is like, caw. Kristen. She's like, yeah.
Ben
She literally took out that. I certainly did. She did the full on caca. This set up our trip, honestly couldn't be more perfect for Luke and I. It's my ovulation window. And for once, we can have sex without Jill trying to hop on top of us. Us. So we can get a little vacation, a little bit of wine, no dogs. We can make Some babies this weekend.
Ronnie
Yeah, it was kind of weird that she said, now we can finally make babies because we don't have, you know, the dogs around. The dogs can't say anything wherever you want.
Ben
Yeah. Close that door.
Ronnie
What are they going to do, file a complaint? They don't have opposable thumbs.
Ben
I'm telling you, Jill is a jealous. She is jealous. She does not want to see Luke with any other woman.
Ronnie
So let's see. Zach's like, oh, my God. I'm gonna put Benji right at the window of my room. Oh, my God. What'd you say, Benji? I'm filthy. Okay, well, thanks. I can't wait to see you, Benji. They check out their backyard. Jesse's already finished off two bottles of Prosecco, which is, you know, gonna lead to disaster later. No, no word on how much coke he snorted. But his. His eyes are black. They're. They're pure black. They're like alien takeover black at this point.
Ben
Yeah. This is pod person right here. And then guess what, everyone. Melissa's here. Who's that? That's Jasmine's girlfriend. So she's here, and everyone's getting into, like, NASCAR outfits. We're like, why are they doing that? It's because they're going to be going to some sort of, like, car racing event. And Janet's like, I've actually never been to a NASCAR race, which, surprisingly, because I'm white trash trash, but, you know, I'm not that white trash. But I will bring a fanny pack full of Dave and Buster's tickets to the event just in case. And then Danny's like, well, I was leading a movie called Super Fast, which was a spoof. The Fast and the Furious franchise. Yeah. So I'm gonna be the one to beat today because I once sat in a car that was towed by a pickup truck that had a camera on it. So I kind of know a thing or two about race. And.
Ronnie
So Kristen and Luke's door. They're banging in there. We hear a lot of. So they're doing it, and then they come out wearing their NASCAR stuff. So now everybody's doing their Talladega Nights thing. And, you know, it's like a fun and games scene. So, yeah. Jesse's like, I'm actually. I actually got a F1 sponsor. So this is, like a legit costume.
Ben
Not a costume. This is, like, real. And, like, literally no one cares. Michelle just gives that look, like. So then they all. They all. Zach shows up, and he's, like, dressed like Super Mario or whatever. And then everyone's just coming downstairs. So Britney's like, okay, I have to say that Jesse, like, because all of a sudden Jesse is like shirtless for some reason. I guess they. They get to the place. Is he at the place or somewhere where.
Ronnie
Yeah, they show up in the place and they're doing that slow motion walk where it's like, here's the gang all in stupid outfits and he's shirtless. And so she's like, hey, can I move the egg a little bit?
Ben
Yeah, I think gave everyone the ick because, like, why is he walking around like, with his, like, jumpsuit, like, half raveled down to his knees? I think he's like half getting in touch with his, like, former model days. But it's just like, I mean, it doesn't look bad, but it's just like the hubris of it all is so gross that you just go, ugh, disgusting.
Ronnie
And Zach's like, even little Benji on a stack rolled his eyes. And Jesse.
Ben
Benji on the stick says he doesn't want to be her anymore. Wait, why is binge on the stick leaving so quickly? What was that Binge on the stick? You say you're getting deported.
Ronnie
What?
Ben
How did my stick figure get deported? Is it actually deported or is he just coming up with an excuse to get away from me? Benji.
Ronnie
So now everyone's making fun of Jesse's nipples. And Luke's like, wow, you got small nipples. And he's like, yeah. And they also point in different directions. Looks like those are my co nipples. Luke, you were just let into this group.
Ben
Yes.
Ronnie
Get off the man's nipples. And so they're like nipple talking. And then they're doing remote control cars around this little thing. I have to be honest, they should not open with fun and game thing because I was scrolling. I was doing a lot of phone scrolling.
Ben
Yeah, this was a very long fun and game segment. I mean, it looks. It did look like actual fun. Like I was like, oh, if I go, I kind of want to go up to Santa Barbara and do these like, remote control cars. But it also went on for a very long time where basically it was like that old video game, RC Pro Am, and they're just going up and going over jumps and around. And then they did one heat and then another heat and another. The best part about it was that Zach was they were like, well, what's gonna happen if a car flips over? And like, well, some of us who are not in the heat are gonna go stand out there and. And we'll. And write the Cars. And Zach's like, I am not gonna do that. And it cuts to him, and he's like, the one. He's actually the only one doing it. And he has, like, a little umbrella, and he just like, I hate this so much. The things I will do for my Bingey stick figure.
Ronnie
Brittany's like, I'm so happy. Finally, it's legal for me to drive again. What do you mean you took my tiny car license.
Ben
License.
Ronnie
What do you mean by the way? Their little tiny car.
Ben
I'm glad that this is how what the event was, because for a while, when they were letting us believe that they were actually me driving some sort of go karts or race cars, I was like, is.
Ronnie
Are.
Ben
Is. Does anyone realize that, like, Jesse just bragged about drinking two bottles of Prosecco, and he's like, now we're gonna go drive some race cars? I was like, is anyone paying attention to this sequence of events here? But it turns out it's okay because they're tiny cars.
Ronnie
So then we get some nasty texts from Jax. Ding, ding, ding. He's like, call me, call me. I have stuff I want to say. I just got out of therapy. I mean, like, not making you feel safe or, like, wanting to ask how you are. And then I took screen. Actually, Reddit took screenshots of this. You took my job away from me. I've worked so hard for two years, and you took it from me. You took my son from me. You're disgusting.
Ben
Yeah, that sounds like.
Ronnie
You can go back to the house and Julian. Trust me. I gave my friends your address. They're gonna stop by. Like, what?
Ben
Oh, geez.
Ronnie
Let me see.
Ben
That's menacing.
Ronnie
I'm doing this for my son. And your family is the most up I've ever seen. And they would never. Something. They would never. They would never do what you did. I'll never, ever forgive you. You destroyed the only thing that was worth doing. Love. Even Ryan said, I don't blame you. What she did was ruthless. Ryan's his manager. I think showing random people that video is absolutely disgusting. You better be taking care of that house. You said you have been there a few times a week to get the packages, take care of the home. You put me in here. Now do the work as a single mom. I'm watching the cameras, and you're not there. Again, where was my note? If you cared, you have the time to. Julian. I mean, yikes.
Ben
And what's sad is that, I mean, I'm.
Ronnie
I'm. That's just one shot.
Ben
Yeah. And this isn't even like, I have to imagine this isn't even coke induced. This is just Jax induced. Right. Because I don't think he has access. He's in rehab.
Ronnie
Well, it's come down. Also induce. It's. What do you call it? How could I not know of everybody. But, like, when you're coming off drugs and you have.
Ben
You withdraw withdrawal.
Ronnie
Yeah. Because this is only day three, so he's probably going nuts. But that's not to excuse it. It's just saying, like, it might not be coke, but it's still coke related.
Ben
Coquette coke esque. So. So she's getting all these texts and. And she's just. I mean, I'm actually very impressed with Brittany that she's receiving all these texts and she's not like really spiraling because it's like if someone's texting you these awful things, like that's. That takes a toll on you. But she's just like, oh, he's just saying they. And Jack's like, I mean, only Jax would rage text from rehab. Kristen's like, Brittany, is Jax rage texting you? She's like 24 7. She goes, oh, well, I got a text from him earlier, but of course the text to Kristen was like, oh, I love it here. At all. Because he's texting, apparently texting everyone, being like, oh, my God, I love it here. I'm really learning so much. So he's putting on this whole front, like he's enjoying all the work that is and the self care, etc. But to Brittany, he's actually showing his true colors, which is pure monster. Her.
Ronnie
Yeah, she shows Kristen the messages he's actually sending to her, and it's nasty. Oh, my gosh. We have them all written out here. Thank you, note taker. I didn't even need to struggle with the screenshot. I hadn't read far down enough. Nice work. But yeah, they're all here. He's disgusting, this guy. So Kristen's like, what the. And she like, he literally says, I put him in prison, he's miserable, and now his nose. We're in Santa Barbara and he's like, well, oh, I like being here. I've got to take this serious. But he's just texting all you guys and saying this to me and it's like more manipulative crap. That's what it is. And I'm not checking in on him. I'm not being a good wife. Why? Because I haven't sent care packages yet. It's three Days, like, relax. You're not his. You're separated, period.
Ben
Yeah. And it's over.
Ronnie
Everything. Send it to a lawyer and do not speak with him. You're under no obligation to speak with him. He's not even helping with the kid. He's doing nothing. Calling. Cut him off.
Ben
Yeah. 100. And I actually, what I'm happy about is that I think that she really is doing this. Like. Like, she is not. She's not sending the care packages. She is cutting him off. I think she's doing, like, the right things. It took us years, years of us being like, britney, don't, like, stop this, Stop this. And I feel like she's actually in a good place in terms of handling him, which is like, she seems like she is, like, has drawn that boundary and said, absolutely not. Not, I should say. And he is still texting. And then Kristen. Kristen texted Jackson. So proud of Britney for putting herself first. Because that was like, her response to be like, I'm not going to be on your side just because you're sending me these text messages.
Ronnie
Yeah. And then he texts back, and Chris, like, here we go. Here we go. He texted back, you're not looking, though. You're not looking, though. It's, like, super depressing. I don't want you to see it. But it's, like, horrible. What? He says, don't look at it. Don't look at it. It's going to make you cry. Oh, my God, Jack, don't look at it. Don't look at it, though. And so she does. And he says, oh, yeah, she's taking care of herself by sending pics of herself to Julian while I was in Michigan. Naked pics and pics of my son.
Ben
Oh, please. Like, he hasn't sent his dick to, like, every single worker at AM pm.
Ronnie
Your dick was just in TMZ while you were walking on the public street, sir.
Ben
Literally. Literally. She's like, oh, here's going off again. And Zach's like, oh, were you texting her, too? It's like texting everyone. Like, the guy who's like, the guy who runs, like, the. The remote control place is like, hey, y' all, I just got a text from J. He says, brittany, you sent some videos to someone named Julian and I shouldn't trust you. Does anyone know what this means?
Ronnie
And she starts crying. And Zach's like, well, I mean, what. What is. What kind of rehab is this that you can, like, tuxed while you're in rehab? It sounds like crazy.
Ben
Yeah. And then he's still going the texts just keep on coming through. Going out partying while your husband's in mental health. House is coming across real nice. Go screen, grab all this. Now send it to your friends. You're good, by the way. Why is she not allowed to party? Because you're in rehab. Why should she? What, she's supposed to stay home and put a candle in the window like she's in Cold Mountain? No, she's gonna party and she deserves to because she finally gets some peace and distance from you.
Ronnie
Yeah. And she's not with you again. So Zach's like, just give me your phone. Give me your phone. Okay, I'm gonna text John. I want to bet she ass. And she's like, I'm crying now. Look at me, I'm crying. You know, like if he doesn't get help, he gonna keep spiraling. That scares me.
Ben
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Watch What Crappens Podcast Summary: Episode #2832 "The Valley S2E04 Part One: Chakra Malignment"
Release Date: May 7, 2025 | Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam | Platform: Wondery
In Episode #2832 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive deep into the latest developments of Bravo's reality TV realm, with a primary focus on recapping "The Valley" Season 2, Episode 4: "Chakra Malignment." This episode marks the first part of a two-part series dissecting the intricate dynamics and dramatic turns within the show.
Before delving into "The Valley," Ben and Ronnie highlight Bravo's recent announcements of four new shows:
Ronnie expresses enthusiasm, especially for the Real Housewives of Rhode Island, quipping, “But I'm so excited. Like, isn't Rhode Island a state?” (04:36). Ben adds humor by referencing past grievances about Rhode Island's recognition, “Remember, this was an issue that Giselle Feature had. She didn't know where Rhode Island was” (04:40).
The episode centers around the tumultuous relationships and personal struggles of the cast members:
Jax's Turmoil:
Ben states, “Jax has spent his week selling zero tickets for his man tour...” (11:22), highlighting Jax's failed attempts to gain traction for his sobriety-themed tour. Their criticism intensifies as Ronnie remarks, “Jax, you're not on death row. There is no reason to pretend you're Christian right now, okay?” (11:22).
Brittany's Struggles with Jax:
The hosts delve into the toxic dynamics between Brittany and Jax, emphasizing his manipulative and abusive behavior. Ronnie passionately advises, “Anyone who's receiving these sort of text messages from someone. I hope you realize you don't deserve them. And you can... and you should run. Should get out of that situation, because this is not normal and it's not right.” (29:36).
Michelle Cutting Ties with Jesse:
A significant turn in the episode is Michelle’s decision to distance herself from Jesse, who continues to send her harassing texts despite her efforts to establish boundaries. Ben notes, “I think she's actually in a good place in terms of handling him, which is like, she seems like she has drawn that boundary and said, absolutely not.” (35:35).
Household Tensions:
The dynamic within the households is fraught with tension, especially with Jesse trying to manage his relationships while grappling with his personal issues. Ronnie humorously points out Jesse’s over-the-top persona, “Jesse is like, I'm gonna put Benji right at the window of my room. Oh, my God. What’d you say, Benji?” (38:37).
Group Activities Gone Awry:
The hosts discuss a group activity segment involving remote control cars, which ends up highlighting Zach's frustration and the group's escalating tensions. Ben reflects, “Zach's like, I hate this so much. The things I will do for my Bingey stick figure.” (43:15).
Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie interject humor and pop culture references to lighten the intense drama:
Jax's Styling Choices:
Ronnie pokes fun at Jax's eccentric fashion, saying, “What's happening with Britney's styling these days... It was like sumo wrestling underwear.” (19:03).
Remote Control Mishaps:
The awkwardness of the group's remote control car activities is highlighted when Ben quips, “This was a very long fun and game segment... The best part about it was that Zach was... the one doing it.” (42:32).
Ronnie shares a personal connection to the episode's themes, expressing both frustration and empathy towards the characters' struggles. She emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries and prioritizing mental health, stating, “I hope you realize you don't deserve them. And you can... And you should run. Should get out of that situation, because this is not normal and it's not right.” (29:36).
Ben mirrors this sentiment, commending Brittany for her resilience: “I would love someone to come in peace for me right now... She is cutting him off. I think she's doing, like, the right things.” (47:34).
As the episode wraps up, Ben and Ronnie hint at the continuation of their deep dive into "The Valley" in the upcoming part two. Ben teases, “Hey, everyone, this is the end of part one of this recap for part two. Keep an eye on your podcast feed.” (49:57), ensuring listeners stay tuned for more insights and breakdowns of the unfolding drama.
Notable Quotes:
Ronnie: “Anyone who's receiving these sort of text messages from someone. I hope you realize you don't deserve them. And you can... And you should run. Should get out of that situation, because this is not normal and it's not right.” (29:36)
Ben: “I think she's actually in a good place in terms of handling him, which is like, she seems like she has drawn that boundary and said, absolutely not.” (35:35)
Ben: “Zach's like, I hate this so much. The things I will do for my Bingey stick figure.” (43:15)
Final Thoughts:
Episode #2832 of Watch What Crappens offers a comprehensive and engaging analysis of "The Valley" Season 2, Episode 4. Ben and Ronnie adeptly balance humor with serious commentary, providing both entertainment and insightful critique for Bravo enthusiasts and newcomers alike. Their passionate discussions underscore the complexities of reality TV dynamics, making this episode a must-listen for fans eager to stay updated on their favorite shows.