#2840 Below Deck Down Under S03E15 Part Two: Scars and Stripes

Summary

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Episode: #2840 Below Deck Down Under S03E15 Part Two: Scars and Stripes
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: May 13, 2025
Platform: Wondery

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Introduction

In episode #2840 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the tumultuous events of Below Deck Down Under Season 3, Episode 15, titled "Scars and Stripes." This episode marks the second part of their detailed recap, where they dissect the drama, character developments, and pivotal moments that unfolded aboard the yacht.

Recap of Key Events

Promotion Sparks Tension [01:41]

Ben begins by discussing a significant promotion within the crew. Marina receives a second stewardess stripe, a moment that becomes a focal point for ensuing conflicts. Ben humorously notes:

"Captain Jason did not notice once that Marina had more stripes on her shoulders yet Nate noticed it. So, Captain Jason, it's a little bit on YouTube to keep your eyes open." [01:41]

Introduction of New Crew Members [02:26]

The hosts introduce new crew members, describing them as "one day losers" from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, who have been married for 23 years. Ben critiques their background details, emphasizing the mundane facts presented by Bravo:

"She can limbo and roller skates. I don't know how she discovered that skill and why she's so proud of it." [02:52]

Conflict Over Crew Responsibilities [05:08]

A major point of contention arises over the cleanliness of the crew mess. Laura confronts team members about their neglect:

"She asks, 'Why are you just talking to her?' and Ben chimes in, 'Clean up after yourselves. Do it professionally for other people. Do it for yourself.'" [05:08]

This leads to a heated exchange where responsibilities are debated, highlighting underlying tensions among the crew.

Trust Falls and Team Building Gone Wrong [08:55]

Ben and Laura share an anecdote about trust falls, paralleling the strained trust among the yacht's crew. Ben reminisces:

"Mr. Cobra got him there, and he fell back. He just fell right through our arms... He could have been seriously injured." [10:19]

This story serves as a metaphor for the fragile relationships onboard.

Alicia's Internal Struggles [11:46]

The conversation shifts to Alicia, who grapples with anxiety and self-doubt. Laura emphasizes Alicia's detached demeanor:

"Alicia's like, 'I just do the mature thing and just not telling myself I'm not into him.' That's what I'm gonna do." [23:00]

Marina's Rising Tensions [25:30]

Marina's promotion leads to further discord when Captain Jason confronts her about the decision. Miscommunication and lack of acknowledgment exacerbate the situation:

"She goes on and walks off like, 'What the...'" [26:32]

Ben criticizes the lack of effective leadership:

"He seemed like he didn't even want to talk to her. So, like, you know. Well, you're either receptive or not." [26:56]

Character Dynamics and Drama

Laura's Frustration with Leadership [27:08]

Laura expresses frustration with Captain Jason's inattentiveness and poor communication skills, contributing to the crew's disarray.

Serena and Alicia's Interaction [14:06]

Serena attempts to mediate between Alicia and Laura, encouraging Alicia to take a break and go swimming:

"Just go swimming. Just do it." [14:06]

However, Alicia remains conflicted about her responsibilities and personal issues.

Harry and Bree's Relationship Struggles [31:42]

The hosts discuss Harry's stagnant relationship with Bree. Laura critiques Bree's perception of Harry's commitment:

"She's like, 'I'm not backpacking and staying in hostels. I will take an airplane and I will check in to a Marriott, but not a hostel.'" [33:46]

Ben summarizes the situation as Bree needing more from Harry, while Harry remains uninvested.

Notable Quotes

• Ben Mandelker: "Stop being monsters in your career. Clean up after yourselves." [05:58]

• Laura: "She'll just keep coming back and bugging you until you're like, you know what? It's easier for me to just do it than argue with this witch." [06:13]

• Ben Mandelker: "Trust fall. Mr. Cobra learned the hard way to stop trusting people." [11:24]

• Laura: "I can't manipulate this man." [35:16]

• Ben Mandelker: "I'm naming my third child Ketchup in honor of a dead, rabid raccoon that was eaten by their father." [29:49]

Insights and Analysis

Ben and Laura offer critical insights into the crew's dysfunction, emphasizing poor leadership, lack of communication, and unresolved personal conflicts. They highlight how these issues mirror real-life workplace challenges, using humor and sarcasm to underscore the absurdity of the situations.

Leadership Failures: Captain Jason's inattentiveness and inability to address crew issues head-on create a toxic environment. Ben suggests that stronger leadership could have mitigated many of the conflicts.

Crew Responsibilities: The ongoing debate over who is responsible for cleaning the crew mess symbolizes the broader struggle for accountability and teamwork aboard the yacht.

Personal Struggles: Characters like Alicia and Marina illustrate the personal toll that such an environment can take, leading to anxiety, self-doubt, and strained relationships.

Conclusion

In this episode of Watch What Crappens, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam provide a thorough and entertaining recap of the latest Below Deck Down Under episode. They adeptly dissect the layers of drama, character dynamics, and leadership failures, offering listeners both laughs and thoughtful commentary. For fans of Bravo's sensational reality TV and sharp-witted analysis, this episode delivers on all fronts.

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Transcript

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[Ben Mandelker]

Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap.

[Laura]

So Marina is like, oh, my God, you're gonna make me cry. I'm so oxidized right now. And so she's happy and she's like, I dedicate this to my agent, to God, to my grandmother who wanted a new house. And Lara better be late than never. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, everybody.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, so. So now it's like they're getting ready, getting into their whites, because people are coming on, and Nate's like, oh, Marina, two stripes. And she's like, yes. Or Bree says, yeah, Marina got promoted today. Which, by the way, also, it is kind of funny that Captain Jason did not notice once that Marina had more stripes on her shoulders yet Nate noticed it. So, Jason, it's a little bit on YouTube to keep your eyes open.

[Laura]

Has he been out yet, though? He's standing right next to her. Oh, he is? Oh, yeah. He's there in this little scene. And I didn't realize. Yeah, so I guess he's got bigger fish to fry. He's got helmets to fit for a lot of different fish. He's got a bunch of different fish to helmet. All right.

[Ben Mandelker]

A lot of algae to grow.

[Laura]

So then let's meet our new crew of one dayers. Stop wasting my time. Do you understand how difficult it is to turn over a boat, you one day losers? Okay, so they come. They're from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. They met in college. They've been married for 23 years. They fit in right with this episode. Basics at Applebee's Yeah, he's a personal.

[Ben Mandelker]

Injury attorney, and she can limbo and roller skates. I don't know how she discovered that skill and why she's so proud of it. And also, like, how boring are you? That. That's the best little factoid you can give to Bravo to put up on screen.

[Laura]

However, I do see why you're married to a personal injury attorney.

[Ben Mandelker]

Accidentes. Limbo accidentes. He's like, I specialize in limbo injuries.

[Laura]

Let me tell you. You don't learn to limbo in roller skates without hurting yourself a few times.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's correct.

[Laura]

So the guests are introduced. Laura gives the tour. Harry is announcing distance to the boys. And I'm like, what is this, a gay cruise? Because, you know, here in Americ, a lot of us call them buoys. So I like that he kept going. All right, we're close to another boy. We're about five feet from another boy. I'm like, this is like the boat version of Grindr.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're really tickling me right now, Ronnie. You're tickling me.

[Laura]

Circuitously tickling me.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're getting two stripes for this episode, Ronnie. I'll tell you that much.

[Laura]

What?

[Ben Mandelker]

You promoted Ronnie without telling me, so I don't know. Who said that it was someone else.

[Laura]

Jason.

[Ben Mandelker]

So it's Captain Jason. So the interior is serving a fruit platter and caviar, and Harry gets to call the distances when they clear the dock. It's very exciting. And then Lara's talking to. He's talking to the guest, and she's like, so how long have you known each other? Have you do call each other strawberry yet? And he's like, yeah, that's my sister.

[Laura]

O.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, Just some small talk. And then Harry is talking to Jason.

[Laura]

Can I tell you, I don't remember what these people look like, what they said. I just watched the show. Basic. They just went right through me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Basic.

[Laura]

It was like smooth movement right through me. I didn't even pay attention.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Harry checks in with Jason to see if all his calling his numbers. The numbers were good and they worked. They were great. And then Nate is another dropping anchor. All the fun, sort of yacht, things that happen.

[Laura]

Yeah. Okay, now let's get back to the drama. So Laura comes down to the galley, and she's in the crew mess. And she's like, did these get wiped down after lunch? Were you not there for the conversation? Laura. Laura's one of those people who will just not take. No, she'll just keep coming back and bugging you until you're like, you know what? It's easier for me to just do it than argue with this witch. So at least he's like, no, not because. Not by me, because I just cleared the food. And she's like, but the crew misses everyone's responsibility. Okay, then where is everybody? And why are you just talking to her?

[Ben Mandelker]

And honestly, in past seasons, it's been the deckies who cleaned the crew mess. Okay, so also, why don't you guys eat more cleanly? How about that? Then when you don't have to clean up as much, how about you don't leave crumbs everywhere? How about put up placemats?

[Laura]

Really? This is like when five guys first open and there were peanut shells all over the floor. Like, that was part of their thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Stop being monsters in your career.

[Laura]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Clean up after. Clean up after yourselves. You do it professionally for other people. Do it for yourself.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Lara's like, it's everyone's responsibility. Like, you're not going to, you know, you're not doing. You're not going to do the morning thing anymore now. So apparently there's no time. So you should be able to wipe the tables after everyone's eaten lunch. No, you can't do that. And Lisa just looks at her blankly and goes, y' all. I was like, yeah, so just a quick wipe after lunch and that's it. She goes, okay. She, thank you. Thank you. Elisa's like, I'm just not engaging, not with this bitch.

[Laura]

Yeah. She's like, my God, this is just a dick swinging contest at this point. Dicks are everywhere. They're ready to slap it in each other's faces. And so Lara's like, wow. So she goes to tattle. So of course. So she goes to Jason, who, by the way, I wish brought up that he told her, tell one of your people to do this. Like, she didn't tell you to tell the kitchen to do it. Okay. Yeah. So Laura's like, there's still no resolve with the crew mess situation. And he goes, what's the situation? She's like, well, Alicia cleans up, but all she does is take the food from the table into the galley. And he's like, well, she doesn't have to give it a full scrub. She goes, well, but the only thing I asked in the morning was to vacuum and wipe the tables and just check that there's no gone off milk. I mean, do you want gone off milk on the table? Is that what you're saying? You just want stinky, cheesy Milk on the table. Because that's what I've asked.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, well, we're nearly at the end, and we have two heads of department, so this is stuff that you guys need to sort out yourself. I don't want to hear about gone off milk. I've got three fish that are belly up and didn't even get to try on the helmet yet. So come on. I've got bigger literal, bigger fish to fry. Speed, which can you fry up these fish that are belly up in the tank?

[Laura]

So Lara's, like, harp on Jason all the time, because. I know I do, but it bothers me. It's like you. He wants you guys to figure it out. Out. But when they can't figure it out, they come to you. And that's kind of why they come to you. They can't figure it out. It's a constant fight. It's something that's been going on. So just say, fine. You guys are children and obviously cannot handle this. So, deckies, you guys take turns to. Or whoever. Or your interior has to take turns. Leave the girl alone. You know, like, make a decision, bro.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I do. I. I would like him to have a little bit of a firmer hand over this situation because it's spiraling and, like, I kind of feel like this Captain Cary would have done a nice job in this situation. Even Captain Sandy. Well, Captain Sandy would have made it. Made it so annoying for them that they would have, like, made it work out because you're like, okay, what we're gonna do is we're gonna have a sound bath upstairs, and we're gonna think about the ways that we're not just cleaning the crew mess. We're cleaning our personal mess. Okay, hold hands, everyone. Like, okay, never mind.

[Laura]

Gather around. We're all gonna do trust falls, okay? Because we need to understand. We're gonna trust that that mess, that that mess is going to be cleaned. Okay? Okay. Sorry. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. Sorry, Laura. Laura's got a concussion. Okay, so Laura can't do the crew mess. Who's next fall? Go ahead and fall.

[Ben Mandelker]

Doing a trust fall and flopping on the ground. You know, in ninth grade, Sandy just not asking.

[Laura]

She doesn't catch whoever she asked to do the trust fall. She's like, okay, start now. Whoops. Sorry. I wasn't close enough. Maya, let's try it again.

[Ben Mandelker]

In ninth grade, we went a field trip to, like, a ropes course thing. And so we, like, there was, like, a trust fall where, like, you had to, like, There was like a. Like a. Like a lot like a stump. A tree stump. You stand on the tree stump, and then you fall backwards. And then, like, you have. There was, like, 12 of us, and we all put out our. Our arms, and we'd fall into the arms, and so we all did it. We all did it. And then finally, like, the. The teacher. Our teacher who is like our chaperone. Like, okay, why don't. Like, we're like, Mr. Cobra does it now. So Mr. Cobra got him there, and he fell back. He just fell right through our arms. Like, none of us. Like, we all. We killed none of us. Like, none of us, like, brace for him. So he felt three. He just fell down onto the ground.

[Laura]

This is why you don't do trust falls.

[Ben Mandelker]

And he let out this big fart because he was obviously in pain. So the last thing he was thinking about was keeping that far. And so the. And I will always remember his face. Like, he was like, he's clenching, and he turned red. I felt so bad for Mr. Cobra because, like, and the girl started to cry because we all. I think we all were like. Each one of us kind of, like, slacked because we thought everyone else could pick up the slack, and then we all slacked. So Mr. Cobra just fell through all of our arms, and he just lied there. I mean, he could have been seriously injured.

[Laura]

And he's probably traumatized right now. Like, he can't trust anybody. He was humiliated in front of a bunch of youths. That's not fun. I don't believe in trust falls. When I was a kid, I was just too heavy. So everybody would groan if they had me as a partner. They'd be like, oh, my God, please, He's gonna crush me. So there was that, and then there was just, like, the whole part of me that's like, do people watch the news? Don't trust people. That's one thing I've learned in this world. Don't trust. Trust a couple. Like, once you've met people that you can trust, like, you know, you. You have to trust somebody at some time. But in general, don't trust people. Turn on the news.

[Ben Mandelker]

Trust fall.

[Laura]

Trust. Get the fuck out of here.

[Ben Mandelker]

Mr. Cobra learned the hard way to stop trusting people.

[Laura]

Especially, don't be a Mr. Cobra.

[Ben Mandelker]

That must. Have. I would have been pissed. I'm doing a trust fall, and I fall back, and I land on the ground with a thud, potentially giving myself a concussion. Oh, my God. I just always remember.

[Laura]

So then Alicia and Serena are in the galley, and Alicia's like, so you know when you're quiet and you think about any. You just think about anything. And she's like, actually, I can't stop thinking. I've got hghd, don't I? It's just always going, going, hold on, do my armpits smell weird? Is that it? What would you do if you could fly? And Alicia's like, well, but is it weird that I don't really think. I just don't think of anything really in particular. Like, Laura and I had a bit of a run in, and she's like, are you going to clear down the tables? And started thinking there was nothing really in there, but I was trying, but there was nothing there. Do you know what I mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

Great things to tell your boss. You know what I realized is that I don't think about things. I get quiet. I just.

[Laura]

How do you like about things? Laptop.

[Ben Mandelker]

Laptop that's gone to sleep. Sure.

[Laura]

With goals of things to think about, or did things just come into your mind and sort of run around in there? I'm not really sure. Could you show me how to do it?

[Ben Mandelker]

Serena's like, if I didn't need you as an ally right now against Lara, I'd follow you on the spot. I don't want to hear that.

[Laura]

Like, wow, how are you my ally? So she's like, God, that girl's a broken record with the goddamn mess hall. So Bri is saying, oh, well, this has been really tough on me, this charter. But my mom would say, shut the up, you model bitch. I gave up my life for you to walk down a goddamn Runway. Now you're going on a boat.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm sorry, I'll leave you in a hostel. Okay, so now it all makes sense.

[Laura]

But she's determined to get good at folding undies. So now Serena is work. She's. She offers Alicia the chance to go swimming while the guests are going diving to get a little break. And she's like, oh, my God, yeah, baby. The physical exercise will wake me up. You know, I'll put this stuff away, then I'll clean the crew mess. And Serena goes, no, you can leave and just go swimming.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just go swimming. Just do it. Oh, be sure. When you go swimming, just make sure you always have Lara inside. Because you know what they say, if you can see her, she can see you. And I want her to see you swimming. Okay, great.

[Laura]

Now I'm sure. When Serena said, no, don't worry about it, just leave it and go swimming, Alicia thought, oh, okay. Well, that's nice. Serena's going to wipe down the tables for me or something, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, also, it's like, yeah, but. But also, I don't think. I think she's thinking, like, she's entitled to have a break because she doesn't normally get a break. Let her go swimming, because everyone gets to have a break, you know, and, like, the. I don't think that the crew mess even needed to be cleaned at that moment, did it?

[Laura]

I don't know. She said she was gonna do it, and Serena said, no, don't worry about it. Just go swimming. So.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, yeah, she said she's gonna clean the crew mess. You're right.

[Laura]

Yep.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Laura]

So she goes. She goes out and goes swimming, and Jason is. Jason tells us how great the Seychelles is, which. I mean, thanks for showing up. That was a random thing to throw in there. So Serena's like. So Nate comes in and Serena's like, so, I need to have a talk with you about your intentions towards my crew. And he's like, ah, don't worry. I've got the best intentions. I want to impregnate her 20 times before this boat docks and raise a lovely family.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then she's like, oh, you're in love already. Wow. So Lara's, like, telling Bree to clean up some stuff. And basically, we're seeing everyone on the interior. Cleaning, cleaning, cleaning, cleaning, cleaning. And this is to highlight the fact that interior is working very hard at the moment. And Alicia is gallivanting in this hamster wheel thing. And then Adair chimes in.

[Adair]

She goes, hey, my sister had a mouse one time as a pet, and his name was Meatloaf. You're Meatloaf. Run, Meatloaf. Run.

[Laura]

I died when she said that. Meatloaf, Ryan. Meatloaf. God, we love that cat. We love that. That rat. Till it got eaten by a cat. Why do that? Wasn't even a rat. It was a hamster. So why are you eating meatloaf? My brother said, well, we did name it Meatloaf. I said, well, who feeds cats meatloaf?

[Adair]

Then we took in a raccoon as a pet, too. So we named it Ketchup because, you know, you can't have meatloaf without a ketchup. So we had racket. We had meatloaf and ketchup running around the house all the time. Then my dad got rabies.

[Ben Mandelker]

That was fun. But, you know, he got his shots. Happened like, four times before. We finally had to put ketchup.

[Laura]

One time, Papa was over for dinner, he asked for ketchup. We sent him the raccoon. He actually ate the raccoon. That was the end of ketchup.

[Adair]

At the beginning of my dad's fifth rabies. But it was all good in the end.

[Laura]

Papa basically turned into Cujo every time.

[Adair]

He phoned to the mouth and took a photo of him. He said, I'll take a photo being my phone in my mouth. And I said, you're crazy. And he said, yeah, I know. I'm literally crazy. I got rabies.

[Laura]

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[Laura]

So Lara is radioing for a dare to help with the cabin. And she goes, and also, I have to point that everybody is playing this hamster wheel, all the deck people, like, everybody's like, partying out there and Laura's getting perturbed. So she's like, oh, God. I mean, she's just sitting on the AF deck chatting about a meatloaf to ketchup and what's a papa?

[Ben Mandelker]

And so then she's. She's. They're all cleaning it, etc, and then Lara goes down to the galley and she's like, she's like, so what's, what's, what's going on? Like, just. I mean, Alicia, she's having like a party in the hamster wheel. What about the guest stuff?

[Laura]

Stuff?

[Ben Mandelker]

So she tells Zarina. She's like, so does Elise have time to do the crew mess at the moment or not? Because she's on the hamster wheels. Like, oh, tell me about it. We're on a hamster wheel too. Again with this argument about the creamus.

[Laura]

And Serena's like, she really needs it, by the way. Meanwhile, Lara has called Nate in to wipe the tables. How hard is it to wipe a table? Lara, wipe the table. If it's bothering you so much, wipe it. Why do you have to pull somebody else in to do it? Wipe the table, man, it's making me crazy. So Serena's like, well, she really needed the break to swim. And Laura's like, like, why? Everyone needs to do it. I mean, there's stuff to be done here. And Serena's like, I'll just do it. And she goes, no, no, I'll do it, I'll do it. All right, but it's just that there's no time in the day and now there seems to be loads of times and time in the day and no, you won't. You already assigned me to do it, Ms. Victim.

[Ben Mandelker]

But also this is like a one off thing, you know? Like, everyone knows in the middle of a charter, you never get to have these moments, but since everyone's off the boat, like, you get to have, like, a little bit of fun. Like, that's, that's. That's like a thing, and you want to ruin it with, like, the crew mess bullshit. You know, again, assign a decky. The deckies. The deckies are already wiping down things. They're wiping down railings. They can wipe down a chair, you know, a table. Like, Alicia actually has to prepare food and help Serena, and she's allowed to have a break.

[Laura]

Yeah, I still think Jason should just tell them. Who should do that? Just do it. Just assign it. It's annoying. So Serena's like, well, I did see her bring everything in from the crew mess, but then I told her to leave. And now Alicia comes in and Laura's like, but it hasn't been vacuumed. It hasn't been mopped. She's not vacuuming and mopping your floor. Now. You've already been through this 20 times, and now you're just going to pretend these conversations never happened? I'm done with you, lady. You've pushed me over the edge. Okay? I'm done. You're fine.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Lisa's like, damn, shut up.

[Laura]

And putting you on a Southwest plane home.

[Ben Mandelker]

Laura's like, it's fine, don't worry. Lisa's like, well, it's clearly not fine. She's. I'm speaking to Zarina about it, not you. I was like, well, so much for. So much for Lara. And strawberry. Her sweet little strawberry. Good luck getting some nice lipstick, Alicia.

[Laura]

Good luck with getting your lips colored from here on out. So now Lara brings out the vacuum and finishes the crew mess. And it might as well be a crucifix on her back. Like, oh, my God. So Laura's like, I'm not fighting. But she did just fight, so whatever. So Serena's like, well, I feel terrible that it's aimed at me, Alicia, but you're good, you know, don't worry. You've just been put into the middle of something shitty. Did you enjoy swimming?

[Ben Mandelker]

So then she's like, by the way, what's going on with Nate? And Alicia's like, well, Nate's saying smoochie. It's like my vagina folded back onto itself, and I'm just doing the mature thing and just not telling myself I'm not into him. That's what I'm gonna do. Serena's like, all right, that's it's like ghosting in person. It's like, I don't know what it is with Alicia that's actually about the smoochie. I think Nate is a very dedicated man and that wants a wifey, and I don't think she realizes that her. I think she's realizing at her young age, he wants to kiss a lot more frogs.

[Laura]

You know, I. I wish I could kiss more frogs. I mean, frankly, my. I'm just watching the frogs hop away. Multiple frogs just hopping away. So, you know, take it while you can get it, girl. So then Marina is checking in with Alicia. They're. They're talking about Nick because Nick didn't write anything back. He didn't even say anything about the note that said a smile lit up a room. And she's like, it's been a whole day. So if this person's not reciprocating my feelings, I walk away. Clock sticking. I just felt vulnerable 10 minutes ago, and now I'm ready to give it all up. I can't take this anymore. This is just like grandma, who's just like grandma in the depression, not getting what she needed. She will walk. She will walk.

[Ben Mandelker]

My heart has oxidized. So now the guests are arriving upstairs for their tropical dinner, and one of them is wearing a fedora and a puka shell necklace. So they're all kind of like, raggy on.

[Laura]

I mean, I. With puka shells. You don't think I got a puka shell necklace. I got a puka shell necklace. I got a necklace made out of raccoon bones. I got all sorts of necklaces, but puka shells are good. Yeah, Adair. We all figure it with puka, so.

[Adair]

You know what I used to love to do? I used to love putting a puka shell necklace on ketchup, man. Oh, he'd hated it. He'd always be biting my wrists and stuff and get that foam all over my mouth. But it was wor little book of shells on that rabid little raccoon.

[Laura]

So Serena's missing bowls, but Marina finds them, and Serena's like, you, legend. Goddamn legend. I was testing you. You're a star. You really are a second stewardess. I just need to make sure. And Jason's like, wait, who? Second stewardess? And they're like, oh, Marina got two stripes. Because there's been no second stewardess announced. I did not hear of a second stewardess. I can't believe I've been telling everybody to do things on their and they didn't come to me. For my input. I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, usually I'd be consulted in a working. In a working place. Well, that's weird. So then Jason sees Lara in the hallway and he goes, well, I just found out you promoted Marina. She goes, yeah, well, you could have. You would normally come to the captain about that. She goes, no, I told you that in the meeting. I was like, oh, you're gonna gaslight the captain. That's not gonna end well. Nope.

[Laura]

Also, that meeting is on tape and you did not tell him that because.

[Ben Mandelker]

They would have shown the flashback. They would have. They, Bravo loves a receipt. They would have shown her saying, like, oh, I'm gonna promote. They had no footage to show, and luckily they're not petty enough to do the Southern charm footage not found moment like they did with Craig about jt.

[Laura]

So Jason's like, well, the last conversation we had was if you're going to put her on service or not. And she's like, oh, no, that morning I did say, I'm gonna make a second stew. And he's like, yeah, I don't recall that. She's. Oh, miscommunication. Miscommunication, then. And goes, well, I wouldn't deny the decision, but I would like to discuss it with you. She goes, oh, yes, sorry. I should have made it clearer then. Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then she just goes on in.

[Laura]

More clear words that you would actually understand, and she just walks off like, what the. How did he not push her down the stairs?

[Ben Mandelker]

But to be fair, when she went to him, this is. Gets back to earlier point. When she went to him earlier about the screw mess thing, he was just like, looking at his phone and seemed like he didn't even want to talk to her. So, like, like, you know. Well, you're either receptive or not.

[Laura]

Yeah, but it's not really you telling him whether you're going to make someone seconds too isn't reliable on his. At his current attitude at the time. Like, he might not like you, but he's still your boss. Like, you didn't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, he should have told.

[Laura]

Enough with me.

[Ben Mandelker]

She 100 should have told him before. Like, wait, even before that in that interaction in there. But it is. It's just getting back to your other point about how, like, he's so shocked that people don't feel comfortable coming to having one on ones with him. Then when they do, he's like, on his phone, like, not paying attention. So then Bri is working and Adair's working and they're all happy because the air conditioning for the first time the season seems to be working in a bedroom, and then they're serving this. So then the stews are down in the kitchen in the galley, getting ready to bring up plates. And Zarina is like, okay, this one here, this is a coconut, red rice, red snapper, plantain, and has that local curried carrot puree. And everyone just doesn't ignore her.

[Laura]

Laura just won't speak with her. And so she walks out. She's like, all right, then Serena's special. This is going great.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's wonderful.

[Laura]

So, Lara, you know, Laura wouldn't be Laura if she's not seeding discord somewhere. So she sees Marina, and she's like, you know, I've given you two stripes. So now you have to listen to me complain about people and be on my side. You understand that, right? Like, all right, try me. She goes, do you ever get the feeling you're not sure if Jason likes you? Marina's like, no. All right, well, he hardly talks to me. I mean, it's almost, like, awkward, really. She's like, this is how you feel? All right, give me back the stripes. Just give me back the goddamn stripe. I might as well have put two pink lipsticks on your shoulder the way you've just betrayed me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Me?

[Ben Mandelker]

Marina's like, yeah, I. I oversized Captain Jason to the point where he had to actually lecture me and actually scold me for talking to him the way he did. And he still seems to really like me a lot.

[Laura]

So.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow, you must have really up.

[Laura]

So the guests are partying, and it's like, these guys are having a big party at the nursing home. Vibes. Wow. Last time I did limbo, I was in Thailand, but the stick was on fire. This is child's play. Speaking of children, can't wait to have one. God, hope I can impregnate someone on this bird immediately.

[Ben Mandelker]

I want to name my first order Limbo. Can't help it. I'm influenced.

[Laura]

My second will be Purgatory, and I don't know. I have to come up with. With names for third and fourth Ketchup.

[Adair]

Ketchup. In honor of ketchup. Poor raccoon.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, she's convincing. I'm naming my third child Ketchup in honor of a dead, rabid raccoon that was eaten by their father, who then got rid of as well.

[Laura]

Nick sees Marina, and he's like, beam me up. Beat me up to Marina. Here I am. Oh, it was your day. And she's like, oh, I love doing service. I love the craziness I love being vulnerable and I love everything. It's nice that we're finally seeing each other. It feels like forever.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then he's like. He shows her like he has the note. He's like, like, so I saw this. And she's like, oh, stop it. And then she realizes he did care about the. No. She's like, I was so mad at you last night. God. My feelings were oxidizing over turning green with anger. Like alphaba in movie about wicked feelings.

[Laura]

I was so mad with you tonight because you didn't say anything about the not. I felt so silly. Stop looking at me like that. And he's like, oh, is it because you showed a bit of vulnerability? No. He did keep the note in his phone case, which was cute. So isn't that cute? Yeah. We all show our. Our affection in different ways. I think saving a note in your. Your phone case is very romantic.

[Ben Mandelker]

It is. So it's the morning, and Zarina says, good morning.

[Laura]

She's like, good morning, Laura. And Laura just ignores her. And she goes, nope, she's still gonna be a real today.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yep. So then Harry's talking to Lara. Lara. And he's like, oh, drop off is tonight. You happy? You want to gossip about someone? And she's like, oh, there's nothing better. And then they're like, then only one more. Oh, then you're gonna go travel with your new girlfriend. You're gonna take her to a luxury hotel. Maybe not luxury. An average hotel. Holiday Inn Express. What? I was kind of thinking about a box on the sidewalk with her.

[Laura]

She's like, well, wifey then. Have you had the exclusivity chat? And he's like, no. I mean, well, I think that's assumed, don't you? She's like, you don't assume anything that makes an ass out of you and Serena. So you need to have the chat if you're going to be exclusive, Harry. All right, have the chat. And so he agrees that he'll have the chat soon. And he's like, laura, guess what? Laura just told me to have the chat with Bree. It's like, harry, you're gossiping to the person who gave you the thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

You have to be in a separate room with someone else at least. So then Laura goes up to Brie, and she's like, so. Because they're like, cleaning. They're like, doing beds. She's like, what about Harry? Harry? Bree's like, I mean, he's like, amazing, but, like. Like, I don't know. I just think that He's. He just got relationship potential for someone. I'm excited to travel with him. I just don't want to stay in a hostel. I'm kind of getting the ick.

[Laura]

Yeah. Laura's like, well, I sensed a butt, but is there no but? And she's like, well, I mean, he doesn't really have a butt, and that's kind of the point. But I do. I just. I got to the point where I'm just so happy on my own. Which is why the first half of the season I spent saying, why isn't Harry talking about the kiss with me?

[Ben Mandelker]

You know how it is. You know, when you leave for a season of yachting, you sort of forget your old life. And then as the season winds down, you start to remember, wait a second, I'm super hot. I could probably do better than this.

[Laura]

So she doesn't know if she's emotionally ready to invest in someone yet, which just basically means Harry's friend zone. Harry's just kind of friend zoned.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know what? Because the hostile zoned, Okay? I guarantee the moment he's said hostile, she had. She had a very clear vision of what their life on land would be like. And she said, nope, not for me whatsoever. I'm not saying that she needs to be in a luxury hotel, but she's like, I'm not backpacking and staying in hostels, Okay? I will take an airplane and I will check in to a Marriott, but not a hostel.

[Laura]

Yeah. And I think the whole season she's been asking Harry for, like, some energy and some chemistry and some fun, some sexiness and some. Some spiciness. And every day she just gets a how are you? Me too. Kissy kissy. And that's it. And so I think she just needs a little bit more Harry. Harry's. Harry doesn't have it, you know, And.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think that she sees that Harry's cheap. She's like, oh, you're cheap. This is our life is going to be going into restaurants and seeing what the special is and, like, what's half off and, like, where the travel deals are. And she's like, I don't want to do that. I don't. I'm. No, this isn't for me.

[Laura]

Me. Yeah. All right. So the guests say bye. They leave their tip, and now it's time for tip meeting. Charter eight. Well, congratulations. We're nearly there. We did well, big compliments to Marina. God damn it. I just found out you are second stewardess. So congratulations to you and congratulations on me for being Last. The last person to hear this one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Laura]

One somethings.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, it's time for me to give out the helmet. So I just fish this out of an algae filled tank. And Lara, I'd like you to put this fishwater infused helmet on your head because you are going to get it. Thank you. And of course, she does that thing where she sort of like looks down at her knees and she takes it way too seriously and she's like, it's super embarrassing because, you know, I feel beaten down with the whole Tsarina thing and I don't really know where I stand with my captain. It just feels like a lot right now. It's just all coming at the wrong time.

[Laura]

Oh, wow, wow, wow. And so Serena's like, oh, Laura, congratulations. You're going to look incredible in the helmet. It's like, yes. Love the subtlety. So Serena tells Alicia that she's very impressed with her this charter and they did great teamwork. And then Lara starts to spiral. She's like, oh, God, this is actually insane. He doesn't like me, Bri. I swear to God. He just doesn't like me. I just feel like he doesn't like me and he doesn't want to give me any credit and that's fine. I. As a bunny episode, last episode. A bunny. Where's my sexy bunny helmet? Where's that? Oh, God, I don't know. I don't even know why it's upsetting me so much. I can't manipulate this man.

[Ben Mandelker]

And, like, it's like, you. Do you not remember your role in this relationship? About how you've stormed out of several, like, encounters with him? Like, you, like, he wants to have that communication and the truth is, like, her department's killing it. Like, she has a very functional and proficient department, so she should be getting all the flowers, but she's kind of, like, ruining it for herself.

[Laura]

Yes. So Bree's like, laura, Laura, you're doing an amazing job. Who triggered you? How did this happen? She's like, well, he never tells me you smashed it tonight. Nothing like that. And. And Bree's like, no one sees your hard work. They don't see. All they see are blue plates. They don't see the white plates. They could have been. You poor thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know what? I've tried to do so many things to get his approval. I'll say, like, you look amazing in this whole thing with Zarina. You're like, you're gonna look great in that. And, like, don't talk to me, Serena. I'm just like, miserable to my call right now to the point where I want to leave. I mean, I don't like disappointing people. I don't want to disappoint anyone. Oh, no. By the way, could you go clean up that crew mess? Someone do that, please.

[Laura]

Please get the off the toilet, because I'm not doing that. That. Please, Lara. Bye. Just go. Whatever, you big baby. I can't with her. Fun episode, though. How many episodes or less of that left of this?

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm gonna say two or so because it sounds like they got one more charter. So that'll probably be two episodes, like people coming on Cliffhanger and then people leaving and goodbyes. So I'm going to predict two episodes left of the show.

[Laura]

Okay, well, let's see if you're correct. I guess time will tell.

[Ben Mandelker]

And hey, thanks everyone for being here and we will catch you on the next episode. Bye.

[Laura]

Bye.

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