#2842 Crappy Hour 5/12/2025: Bravo Show Announcements and RHONY Cancellation Rumors

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens – Episode #2842 "Crappy Hour 5/12/2025: Bravo Show Announcements and RHONY Cancellation Rumors"

Release Date: May 14, 2025

Hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive deep into the latest happenings within the Bravo network, focusing on significant show announcements, cancellation rumors surrounding "Real Housewives of New York" (RHONY), and their implications for the reality TV landscape. This episode offers a comprehensive analysis, peppered with humor and insightful commentary, making it accessible even to those unfamiliar with the original podcast.

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1. Bravo Show Announcements

The episode kicks off with excitement over Bravo's recent slate of new show announcements. Ben and Ronnie discuss the introduction of several new franchises and reboots aimed at revitalizing Bravo's lineup.

Key Points:

• Real Housewives of Rhode Island (RHORI): The hosts speculate on the potential cast and storylines, highlighting the show's setting in a predominantly Italian-American community and the inclusion of husbands with intriguing backgrounds, such as a Frank Sinatra impersonator and a podiatrist.

  Ronnie (05:27): "What can I tell you? Just never stops."

• Ladies of London & Reboots: They touch upon the addition of "Ladies of London" and the reboot of "Shahs Sunset" into "The Valley," expressing both anticipation and skepticism about these new ventures.

  Ben (07:38): "We need to see rich, rich, sheltered New York City. And so I was actually okay with it."

2. RHONY Cancellation Rumors

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the swirling rumors of RHONY's cancellation. The hosts dissect the conflicting reports and speculate on Bravo's future plans for the franchise.

Key Points:

• Initial Cancellation Reports: Ben mentions how initial reports suggested RHONY was canceled, leading to widespread reactions among fans.

  Ben (05:54): "Roni is dead for now. Like, Roni is going the way of Miami, Dallas, Dubai."

• Official Clarifications: Despite rumors, a spokesperson from Bravo denies an official cancellation, indicating a possible retooling or reboot instead.

  Ronnie (10:56): "They're just rethinking it. I'm hoping that they're not going to try to salvage anything..."

• Impact on Cast and Storylines: The potential cancellation has sparked concerns about cast members like Roni and the show's direction moving forward.

  Ben (07:39): "Let us just have some time to marinate. Let's find the best elements of the new version."

3. Critique of Current RHONY Seasons

Ben and Ronnie provide a critical analysis of recent seasons, particularly focusing on cast dynamics and pivotal moments that may have influenced Bravo's decision-making.

Key Points:

• Aaron and Brené's Roles: The hosts critique Aaron's influence on the show's decline, especially citing the infamous prank involving Rebecca Minkoff as a turning point.

  Ben (11:24): "Aaron not being terribly interesting... she was an unreliable narrator to the audience."

• Jax Taylor's Public Image: Discussion on Jax Taylor's series of podcast cancellations and public controversies, questioning Bravo's decision to feature him in upcoming events like BravoCon despite his tarnished reputation.

  Ronnie (19:03): "Why would you do this? Why are you doing this to me?"

• Show's Authenticity and Audience Trust: They debate how certain plotlines and cast behaviors have eroded viewers' trust and enjoyment.

  Ben (14:14): "The joke was the moment when people officially lost their hope."

4. Real Housewives of Rhode Island: Cast Speculations

Delving into the anticipated RHORI, the hosts speculate on potential cast members based on promotional teasers and social media hints.

Key Points:

• Rosie Woods Demade: Described as a former news reporter married to a Frank Sinatra impersonator, Rosie embodies the quintessential blend of glamour and quirky charm expected in a Housewives franchise.

  Ronnie (25:12): "A cheap house and a Husband who's a Frank Sinatra impersonator."

• Monique Pass and Patrick Pass: Monique's husband, a former professional athlete facing legal issues, introduces potential drama and conflict dynamics.

  Ben (27:54): "Patrick Pass used to play on the Patriots. Touchdown, Patrick Pass."

• Elizabeth McGraw and Rula Nima Pontarelli: Featuring a cannabis entrepreneur and a podiatrist, these members promise diverse backgrounds and storylines, adding depth to the show's narrative fabric.

  Ronnie (30:04): "She's like from a big fishing family. And she's giving me Melissa Gorgov vibes."

5. Other Bravo News and Shows

The discussion expands to encompass developments in other Bravo shows, including "Vanderpump Rules" and upcoming endeavors by Lisa Vanderpump.

Key Points:

• Lisa Vanderpump's Expansion: Lisa's ventures in Las Vegas, including the remodeling of the Vanderpump Hotel and new restaurant openings, signify her growing empire and potential new storylines for her own shows.

  Ben (49:03): "There's gonna be some, like, Vanderpump Villa spin-off that's only gonna launch as the hotel is nearing completion."

• Vanderpump Rules Reception: Ben shares his mixed feelings about the show's current direction, appreciating some elements while critiquing others.

  Ronnie (52:31): "She's standing up for terrible men. She needs them for her show."

6. Final Thoughts and Host Reflections

Ben and Ronnie conclude the episode by reflecting on Bravo's strategies and the broader implications for reality TV enthusiasts.

Key Points:

• Bravo's Audience Engagement: The hosts commend Bravo's knack for creating viral moments, even if it means courting controversy.

  Ben (20:32): "Bravo's baiting the audience to get up onto that microphone and just tell the Jacks off because they know it's going to be a moment."

• Personal Stances and Future Expectations: They express their support for certain cast members while anticipating future drama and developments.

  Ronnie (42:53): "I'm prepared for them to come back and be gross."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ronnie on Luxury in Bravo Shows:

  [00:00] Ronnie: "One of the reasons we love watching Bravo shows is for the luxury."

• Ben on Virgin Voyages:

  [00:21] Ben: "Over $1,000 in value is included in every sailing."

• Discussion on RHONY Cancellation:

  [05:54] Ben: "Roni is dead for now. Like, Roni is going the way of Miami, Dallas, Dubai."

• Ronnie on Jax Taylor's Controversies:

  [16:10] Ronnie: "Jax has had so many podcasts canceled apparently... they're getting his live show canceled all over the place."

• Ben on Lisa Vanderpump's Influence:

  [49:03] Ben: "There is gonna be some, like, Vanderpump Villa spin-off that's only gonna launch as the hotel is nearing completion."

• Final Reflections:

  [20:32] Ben: "Bravo's baiting the audience to get up onto that microphone and just tell the Jacks off because they know it's going to be a moment and it'll be great."

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Conclusion

Episode #2842 of "Watch What Crappens" offers an in-depth exploration of Bravo's current and future programming, particularly focusing on the potential demise and transformation of RHONY. Through candid discussions and sharp critiques, Ben and Ronnie provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of the shifting dynamics within one of reality TV's powerhouse networks. Whether you're a die-hard Bravo fan or a casual observer, this episode delivers valuable insights into the ever-evolving landscape of reality television.

Transcript

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

And let's not Forget Lisa Barlow's $60,000 ring that she lost.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Who cares what happens when there's so much? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, hello and welcome to Crap Happy Hour. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben. What's going on, baby?

[Ben Mandelker]

Hi, Ronnie. I'm good. How are you doing over there in Tejas?

[Ronnie Karam]

Good.

[Ben Mandelker]

What a fun weekend I had with you. Really one of my favorite weekends of our tour. I just had so much fun on my little Texas adventure over with you. We just had the best time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, we really did have a good time. It was really fun. I'm good. Just got back, did Mother's Day, did episodes today. Just, just rolling right along. What can I tell you? Just never stops.

[Ben Mandelker]

Never stops. The fun time never stops. We, you know, I just want to mention for people who are here, first of all, hi everyone who's here on YouTube and on Instagram. When we were in Texas, we did a road trip from Austin to Dallas and we put our phones on mounts and we recorded it and it's really fun. And that was like 90 minutes. So we're splitting that into three videos or three bonus episodes on Patreon, but that'll be up. That'll be up soon, very soon. And so I hope you guys all listen to it because it's just funny listening to us just ramble on on the highway. Like the way our brains work and how we jump from subject to subject is so hilarious sometimes. Yeah, we. We just do these episodes, we turn them out, we put them out, and then we go on to the next one. So to sit there and actually, like, you know, I, I like to. I watched the whole thing and I was like, we are ridiculous. We are two ridiculous people.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I'll tell you what's ridiculous. Bravo Television, truly. You've been keeping up with the Bravo news.

[Ben Mandelker]

I've been trying to. I thought I was doing a really good job keeping up, and then I looked at our document and there's even more news. I couldn't even imagine that was out there. Like, I. I was like, I'm up on all the gossip this time around. But no, no, there's always more.

[Ronnie Karam]

There's. Wait. Bravo clarifies state. Okay, yeah, well, the biggest news was confusing because it wasn't official news, but it came out that Real Housewives of New York has been canceled. Cancelled. And then they were like, no, no, that was just some source. No, Bravo didn't say that. It was some source saying they're going to retool it or reboot it or do something with it. Did you mourn? What was your. What was your thoughts. What were, what were your thoughts on the original of cancellation? What do you think?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, the original thing was that Roni and New Jersey were both not listed on Bravo's press release or update about what was being officially renewed. And. And New Jersey has actually gotten kind of forgotten in this mess. But both those shows were listed as not being renewed. And so everyone was like, oh, my God. And then the next day, there was sort of like a more authoritative article that came out in Page Six that said there Bravo has no plans to film Roni. Like, basically, like, Roni is dead for now. Like, Roni is going the way of Miami, Dallas, Dubai. Like, it's not canceled, but it's basically done. And then, of course, everyone was up in arms.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was, it's like a gay breakup. We don't ever. We don't ever fully cancel either. We're like, you know what? Let's break up. Maybe I'll fuck you in a year or so. But I reserve my right. I reserve my right to penis, to do penis sword fighting, but otherwise get out of my house.

[Ben Mandelker]

Then this was all on the heels of something that we announced last, last week on the air. So we don't have to go that far into it. But like, Bravo had just announced, like, Ladies of London and Real Housewives of Rhode island and basically Shah's Sunset reboot as the Valley and like the housewife half swaps wife swap thing. So it's.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God, could you imagine? I would love a head swap reality show for housewives.

[Ben Mandelker]

Heads up. I would love that Franken Wives. Oh, my God. Alexia's body on Kyle Richards head. Or I guess the head would be on the body. Yes. Do it all. So, anyway, this. I'm being. I'm really not getting to the point here.

[Ronnie Karam]

My.

[Ben Mandelker]

What? I. I was actually, when I heard the news, I was okay with it, because I just think that, like, Roni, the reboot, they got it all wrong. Despite there's some high points, there's some good stuff that came out of it. It's not a total wash, but I think they got it all wrong and they actually do need to hit a reset. Let's let it just have some time to marinate. Let's find the best elements of the new version. Maybe we can bring some elements of the old version and find and just cast the right people for it. We need people who are deluded, people who are from the Upper east side. We don't need movers and shakers and influencers and fashionistas. We don't need to see glam New York City. We need to see rich, rich, sheltered New York City. And so I was actually okay with it. What about you? Sorry, I'm talking a long time.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, it's okay. It's your show. Talk as much as you want to.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't need to monologue.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I thought I would feel happier because I feel like it's something, you know, where I'm like, just can't. You know, I get so frustrated sometimes by the end of a season, when the season isn't working, then I'm just like, get rid of it. And then they did. And then I felt bad. I was like, did I do this? Did my wishes? You know, because sometimes I wish for stuff so hard that's not important, and then it happens. And then I'm like, wow, I should have wished for important things, you know, like the downfall of the IRS or something like that. But I was like, did I do this? And I felt kind of bad. But then, you know, I saw a clip of Aaron somewhere, and I was like, oh, God, never mind. Like, keeping. Keep my negative wishes in heaven. You know, like, they're still there. They're still alive. But I thought it was weird because just the night before, like, two nights before, I think Psy made a post, which I just write about somewhere else because, you know, I follow us. I. No offense, but my head hurts. So I saw a post somewhere else, and it's like, look at all the ladies. We're hanging out. Because we're not just. We're not just friends on tv, where women who love each other day in and day out, and we see each other at Each other's, you know, events and stuff like that. And the only one not invited to this thing that they were at was Brynn. So I thought for sure, knowing that upfronts were coming up. They were today. And so knowing the upfronts were coming up, I just thought that they were like, hi, here we are, we're shooting again. But then that cancellation thing came out. So anyway, a spokesperson. This is according to People magazine. And you know, this is real because Dave Quinn writes such real that he hasn't even been seen for like a year. He just disappeared. No one even, no one even knows if there's like a Dave Quinn AI bot or what. He's like the AI Overlord or something now. But he disappeared and he's still writing stuff. So, you know, you can trust him because he was behind a bush when Lindsay was getting engaged. People's there for everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was. Huh? I said Jenna Bush. It was.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, he jumped behind that Jenna Bush. So. A spokesperson for Bravo has denied the cancellation. The second longest running franchise had a major cash shake up, but they just wrapped their 15 seats. So I guess they're saying nothing is official. The show hasn't been canceled. They're just rethinking it. I'm hoping that they're not going to try to salvage anything I say just to give it a full retry, stop going for young people and just go for.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, the reason why I said some salvaging is because I actually think that Miami was. Has been remarkably successful and I think they did a really good job of bringing on brand new people. But they kept some people from the original cast and moved some to friends of. So there was like, there was that nostalgic element that got us excited, but we created something new. And so like, I think they have to follow the Miami model. They just did such a. Such a good job with like rebooting that show and.

[Ronnie Karam]

Right. But that they, they kept the original cast. They hadn't already had a reboot. So I'm saying if they're going to salvage, don't salvage the new stuff.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, and I'm just saying Jessel, it's really just Jessel. Honestly, it's just Jessel. Just salvage Jessel. Save, pull Jessel out of the wreck. Jessel was like, not as good this season, but that's also because the season wasn't really. She was pushed to the sidelines a lot. I mean, by the way, how thankful are we that we don't have to sit and watch Aaron's pregnancy? Aaron, who I would actually blame for the true downfall of this show. Because I think that prank with Rebecca Minkoff, I think that was a jump the Shark moment for the Real Housewives as an entire franchise. And I think that when that happened, I think Bravo realized we do have to purge this because that was a. That broke a pact with the audience that they built an entire trailer and something like they dangled a carrot in front of us, and it turned out it was a joke. It's the equivalent of watching a whole movie and seeing someone wake up and say it was all a dream. It was not. Right. And so I would argue that on top of Aaron not being terribly interesting, I know she tried to start fights. I know she tried to mix it up, and I appreciate that effort, but I think that joke was not good. I think she was an unreliable narrator to the audience, as was Brin. And there's a difference between that and being a liar. Because we can watch liars. They can be good Real Housewives. But if you're unreliable to the audience, that's a no go. So that is. It's spoiled milk. But. But save Jesel.

[Ronnie Karam]

Someone in comments is pointing out that that reboot chemistry also worked for the new Atlanta, which is like kind of half and half, which. Agree. Noted. So, yeah, it's funny that you blame Aaron. I mean, I guess, obviously I don't. I'm not a huge Aaron Stan either, but I still blame Liam McSweeney.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, if you really want.

[Ronnie Karam]

You.

[Ben Mandelker]

If you really want to. I blame Aaron McSween.

[Ronnie Karam]

I blame Liam McSweeney for the reboot family.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that's. I mean, you could. You could draw a line.

[Ronnie Karam]

She was so annoying. She was so annoying. And still permeates the air. I was listening to the Bravo docket that outlines her complaint, and I'm just like, oh, I don't know that I've yelled in the car that much in a long time. Since someone said the joke was your pal Becky's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, here's why. Here's why I don't fully blame Becky. I mean, it was Becky's joke. Our pal Becky. Here's why I don't blame her because she's not a full time cast member. Okay. So, yes, it was her joke. But like, I don't know, I just feel like Aaron as, like the. As the cast member. I don't know, I get more. I get. I blame her more. I think if.

[Ronnie Karam]

If with that season was not the joke. I mean, I'm sorry, that was a problem, but that wasn't the problem. The problem was all of it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think the joke, you know, all of it. 100.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like going to the doctor and you. You. You're just riddled with disease. And the doctor's like, well, you have a zit on your nose. Let's pop that. Like, no, I'm riddled with disease. Put me through something other than this.

[Ben Mandelker]

The joke was the moment when people officially lost their hope. I think. I think there was, like, a feeling like, okay, it's really slow, but, like, you know, I've sat through a lot of discussion about a pavlova, but we know there's something coming. And then when that happened, it was like, oh, this is hot garbage. And even when things did get spicier later in. In the season, it was like, we didn't care. And then it also. Let's not forget, it just. It went in such a dark place by the end of the season. It was. It was. It was just.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it was terrible. So. Yeah. And I think the joke also. It was a promise, right? Because it was in the previews for the season. It was in the coming. This season. You see this huge fight if somebody's been cheating on their husband and got impregnated. And it was like, okay, well, this dumpster fire is about to turn into something. But then it all turned into a joke, like you said, you know, when somebody wakes up and it's all a dream. So, you know. Yeah, I guess you're right. Okay, so let's go. We're all right. Really fast.

[Ben Mandelker]

All of the above. All of the above. I want to say it's both of us. We're both right in this.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's everything. So as we. As we mentioned earlier in the week, Bravo did announce the show's wife swap. Real Housewives of Rhode Island. What were the other ones? Oh, ladies of London, south of the Valley.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's. It's like. I think it's officially called what, like, the Valley Persian style or something like that. They should just call it the Shahs of Ventura. Just move the. Move the boulevard over.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, I don't know that we need to spin it off into the. I don't know that the Valley needs a spin off. Just calls it this. Call it the Shaws of. Just call it the Shaws.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I feel like. Yeah, I. Yeah, that's actually a great idea. It's like the way they're keeping up with the Kardashians being the Kardashians because.

[Ronnie Karam]

The Valley is minus one. Abusive, you know, like The Shaws. Minus one abusive Shaw or something.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know. It's not very catchy. I guess I'm surprised that Mike Shoehead and Jax Taylor haven't started a podcast together. Inside the Mind of a Married Man. Paulina. Spoof podcast, Paulina.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, speaking of Jax Jax, we'll come back to these new shows in a minute, but just because you said Jax Taylor, my. My blood started boiling a little bit. So. Jax has had so many podcasts canceled, apparently he has his podcast that was going on tour. I heard him lying his ass off to Dr. Drew on a clip. Well, he had Dr. Drew, I guess, on his show, and Dr. Drew was like, yeah, your problem is lying. And if you're ever going to be so truly sober, you have to learn how not to lie. And I imagine that's going to be a problem for you. And Jack's like, no, no, no. You know, like, you're totally right. And, like, I'm, like, totally getting better about that. And, like, I totally agree with you. Yeah. Because like I said, you know, Brady's a. So. So I don't know what's going on with him, but people have gotten their phone lines hot, okay? Them phone lines have been burning up, y' all, and they're getting his live show canceled all over the place. I think he started with 12. 12 dates, and according to reality, like, six of them have been cancelled. So, you know, this is great. It's so nice to see what Americans can do when we're really paying attention. You know, just remember that next time there's an election.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that. That's a. That's a great reminder, Ronnie. That's. It's, you know, pay attention before the election, not after. What's shocking is, I mean, he has done some shows, I believe, and I haven't seen any leaks. I haven't seen any videos. I haven't seen.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, no one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Are people going to this. Do people.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, no one did that thing. We were looking for it before show this weekend of a recap of his show. You know how they do, like, Vanderpod recaps, Will do a recap of a recap or whatever, which I love that on their Instagram. Love you, Vanderpod. But no one did one for Jack, so I don't know if anybody went. Someone had posted the seating chart for his Boston show, and I think, like, 10 seats had been sold. So I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow. I mean, because on top of that, like, obviously, he is a horrific, terrible person, but on top of that, There are a lot of horrific, terrible people that still can pull in an audience, but he. He on. He. He can't because you're waving. Are you waving? You're saying yes, because terrible people with.

[Ronnie Karam]

Horrible karma can still pull some kind of an audience. I'm like, thank God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank God. But he does. He also just doesn't have anything interesting to say. Right. Like, because there will be the people who. Who like Jax, but, like, no one's gonna go to the show because no one wants to know what's. What's inside the mind of Jax Taylor. We know what.

[Ronnie Karam]

There's nothing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cocaine. It's nothing hollowed out.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's the end of the world. So, yeah, so that was a thing. So you. You know what Bravo's really good at is learning their lesson. So they really took a look at the public discord and the public discourse on Jax and decided, you know what would be a really good idea? Let's announce that Jax is going to appear at BravoCon. What the fuck is wrong with you, Bravo? Like, honestly, why would you do this? Why are you doing this to me?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that is. That is shocking. I mean, I. I'm surprised. But you know what, though? People will probably still. I don't know. Do you think people will go and sit and watch Jack so that whatever he does at Bravo Con, I feel he is.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, I'm sure it'll be part of the Valley, but, yeah, people will go see the Valley panel even if Jax is there.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, the. The thing. Yeah, Yeah, I think people will want to hear what he has to say, because in terms of, like, hopefully we'll.

[Ronnie Karam]

Boo the whole time.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, that's what it is.

[Ronnie Karam]

I think Bravo Con. During that, I will boo the whole time.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bravo got so much. What is it called? Like, burned earned awareness or what? What do marketing people say when, basically with all the clips of, like, when. When audiences booed Lisa Rinna or like, moments when that guy confronted Kyle Richards? Like, these moments go viral when the audience is angry and goes after someone. And Bravo knows this. So Bravo's gonna put Jax up there on a Valley Valley panel. And they just are. Bravo's baiting the audience to get up onto that microphone and just tell the Jacks off because they know it's going to be a moment and it'll be great.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, thanks, Carrie. She says bad Bravo takes and flip flopping doesn't make a bad person.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

So I'm looking at another article here. Well, I was going to Real Housewives of Rhode island meet possible cast members. So and all of these new show announcements. We just kind of read the announcement. I don't know anything about Rhode Island. I know it's really tiny and somewhere there's a lot of mobs far from me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Providence.

[Ronnie Karam]

But yes, we read an article that says this is like a very, very heavily Italian. Heavily Italian. What the am I trying to say? There's a lot of Italians there. A lot of Italian Americans. And Andy said on his podcast, I mean they're like even more Italian than Jersey people, which really pissed off Italian Americans. Like how dare you? How dare you say that they're more. They're more Italian than us. You, Andy See, it's getting a lot of use for that. But I thought, wow, that's cool. And then apparently the husbands are really involved in this one as well. And there's a lot of husband fighting in the Rhode island cast and apparently some maybe possible mob ties, which should be interesting. And you even mentioned it that that show Game of Crowns took place in Rhode island and there was, remember there was like a husband to murder somebody.

[Ben Mandelker]

People need to, need to stop sleeping on that show. I hope that like, you know, last year brought Peacock, did a whole thing about like we're releasing shows to the Vault. They like went at the Vault and put shows on Peacock. And I hope that Game of Crowns gets this moment to hype up the Rhode island show when, when it comes out because people really need to watch Game of Crowns because we got a glimpse into Rhode island craziness with that show and it was, it was so delicious. I, I feel like we've been robbed not having it since. And I'm really hoping this show picks up. The Real Housewives of Rhode island picks up where Gamma Crowns left off because there were so there were, there were like just true crazies on that show. So this article, the pro from the Providence Journal has some, is talking about some Instagram accounts that has teased couples and seven houses for the shows. So there's the first name up is Rosie Woods Demade. And we see her house, it's like a ranch house. Lou and Lesseps would not approve by the way. House. Oh, what do you call this kind again?

[Ronnie Karam]

Like a farm place?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, it's like what's that suburban kind of house where you walk in and it's usually split level. It's not split level homes. That's just what it is. You know there's usually like a kitchen and then upstairs you walk in and like you go take a little staircase up to the kitchen, you go a little staircase down to the bedrooms. What's that? What are those called again? Some of the comments can say something.

[Ronnie Karam]

I thought it's odd. I mean, I don't know. So this is in North Kingstown, this home, it's a seven minute drive from Mount View beach and it has an adorable three car garage. I mean these people love their cars. The whole first floor is garages and it says one bedroom, one bathroom and one amazing walk in closet. Home to a fabulous housewife who is serenaded by her husband, a professional Frank Sinatra impersonator. Okay, I already love this show. Yeah, that's all I need. A cheap house and a Husband who's a Frank Sinatra impersonator.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. People in the comments, by the way, are saying raised ranch. This has come up a few times, which is also raised ranch. That's Katie Maloney's tagline too.

[Ronnie Karam]

Raised by ranch is hers.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know what I'd love? I love that this house. $689,000. That is very cheap for a Bravo star to be on the Real Housewives. Unless you're like Monica Garcia. But like this is Bravo likes their, their stars to be in expensive houses. I would not be surprised that these people have to like rent out a more expensive looking place.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, they do it, you know, watch Salt Lake City. I think half that cast rent rents homes to film in. So then let's see this. Rosie is married to professional Frankie impersonator. She's a former television news reporter and anchor as well as a DJ and emcee.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, please let the this be true.

[Ronnie Karam]

Is it too late to call Rosie woods icon and mother and or mother?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, just the fact that she's a former television anchor, you know, she's going to be amazing. I'm getting like Nicole Kidman in To Die For. Like that's what I want. I want someone who is like local Rhode island news anchor with news anchor hair who thinks she's like one, you know, heartbeat away from being Diane Sawyer. But she's really just a local Rhode island reporter walking around with her Frank Sinatra husband. It is, it is actually beyond perfect. And I think like, please let this be true.

[Ronnie Karam]

Next up is Monique Pass in one of the house teases. The Instagram site dropped the clues that this housewife is expected to stand by her husband, a former professional athlete, while he faces charges for allegedly assaulting an 82 year old man at Planet Fitness. Can we please what start this show now? I don't even need this show to be edited. I say just get the cameras going and show you right now what's happening 24 hours a day. I'm gonna put this, this stuff up on video so people can see. So this is the house. This has got window units, air conditioners and Home Depot door. I recognize that door.

[Ben Mandelker]

And look at that price tag. That is, that is TS TLC level. That is not Bravo level. $264,000 on the real Housewives.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I kind of like that. You know, I think that Real Housewives, we've seen Real Housewives struggling to maintain this rich image. And I'm okay with people who aren't rich. I think that it's okay. I mean, I don't need everybody to go into bankruptcy to just try and be on this show. I don't think it makes the show any better. It's all fake anyway, so who cares? Look at Dorit. Poor thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think literally I need. I need. I think I need the fakery, but I want them to either be wealthy or fake wealthy. But I can't. I just can't have. I can't see a six figure number for a house on the Real Housewives. It has to be seven. Look at the next.

[Ronnie Karam]

Look at $264,000. Wow. Okay, so next up, let me see Monique and Patrick Pass. So this is them, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Monique is like, I think she's squinting at us. I don't think she likes us very much.

[Ronnie Karam]

She has not figured out how to find her light when she's taking a selfie.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Beat up an 86 year old. I'm in.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Patrick pass used to play on the Patriots. I think having a name called pass on the Patriots is a little on the nose. It's like his name might as well be like Joseph. Joseph football.

[Ronnie Karam]

Robert.

[Ben Mandelker]

Touchdown, Patrick Pass. Okay, next person. Elizabeth McGraw. This is again, another speculative cast member. She, the Instagram account teased a Cranston house with the clues. This waterfront dream house is what we call the Golden Tuna. I don't even understand why someone would ever say that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Married to a cannabis king and sports fisherman. This smoke show is one hell of a catch. So she's like from a big fishing family, I guess. And she's giving me Melissa Gorgov vibes.

[Ben Mandelker]

With some Carrie Huber maybe mixed in.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I just mean I think she's going to have that kind of personality. I see it in her eyes. I see it in her crazy, thirsty, desperate eyes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Is that. Is. Is that also because for some reason there's a video of the real house has the New Jersey tackle, just the great greatest hits of of New Jersey tackles happening in the corner of your screen.

[Ronnie Karam]

Was that what was down there?

[Ben Mandelker]

It was like. It was like a montage of like every fight on New Jersey in the corner there.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, love it. Okay, so let's see about them. Elizabeth McGraw is married to Gerald McGraw, president of Something Slater Compassion Center, a medical and recreation cannabis business in Rhode Island. Is it not legal to just sell cannabis yet? Are you still. Do you still have to go under the guise of needing it for medical reasons? That's the vibe I'm getting. Where you go to the. Where you go to the doctor that's got a green cross on the Front, you know, and you're like, oh, my back. And he's like, all right, that'll be $50. You'll feel better any minute.

[Ben Mandelker]

I. I also love that his. His recreational cannabis company is called Compassion Center. The. The Thomas C. Slater Compassion Center. I have to assume. Thomas C. Slater. It's probably a tribute to someone who died. And there's probably something like, is medical marijuana someone who died from cancer? But, you know, it's probably just like. Like, I don't know. You know what? I'm not even gonna. I'm not even gonna go on them and be like, it's probably some. Just some pot shop. And then everyone's like, no, someone died of cancer. But I just think calling it a compassion center is hilarious because you know that she's gonna be the least compassionate person on the show.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And I hope that she says when she fights with somebody, I hope she's like, you know what you need? You need to come to our Compassion center, honey, because you're lacking. You're lacking in compassion. So then we go down to Rula Pontarelli. Next up, Rula Nima Pontarell married a podiatrist, Brian F. Ponni.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, that's a fun one to say.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she looks like the lady who is obsessed with French fries on Real Housewives of Dubai.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Her husband has nice, tiny baby nipples and a. And a waxed chest.

[Ben Mandelker]

Very waxed. He's very smooth. He's AI. Generated almost. He's almost like a Pixar. So ensuring the Lincoln House. The Instagram account teased, here lives the queen bee boss lady. Her husband is a. I mean, podiatric surgeon. And weights on her hand and foot, exclamation point.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, God, I love the. The caps foot. Get it? We got it. We got it. So now, mansion. Yeah, this is a. Now this is a house that Feet built right here. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Whoever was selling their feet on Vanderprom for rules, this foot built some homes.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is a house built on planter warts right here. Okay, this podiatrist has been doing great work.

[Ronnie Karam]

The bricks are really planter warts. To stop it, there's like little. Little tacky statues on the front. Oh, this. This house is tacky as hell. It's 1.299 million. So they've doubled everyone else's. Oh, my God, I can't wait for the snotty foot lady. Maybe her tagline will be like, these feet were made for talking.

[Ben Mandelker]

I also just love these names. The next woman, Joelle and Taberi sounds like someone that your aunt has met at, like, the supermarket. Joellen Taberi. Yeah. So when posting about the Cranston house, the Instagram account said the potential housewife who lives here there is a cool and sculpted beauty. Her husband is a high performing mortgage lender who is top four on his team. Okay, so that means he's probably like a predatory lender scamming people.

[Ronnie Karam]

Got kind of a predatory lender dead eyed vibe to him. And he's got very spiky hair that someone probably. I think he's trying to make it into a faux hawk, but then it gets unruly as the night goes on, so I don't get a lot from them. So let's see here. Next up. Oh, here we get some more. We get their wedding picture or a funeral picture. I'm not really sure what that is. With every year comes a new. Our family comes to grow, and we continue to make lasting memories. Heart, heart, hands. You always keep me on my toes, Mrs. Taberi. Never a dull moment, just the way we like it. Winky face, blessed to have you by my side. Happy birthday, Joelle. Into Barry Blue Heart.

[Ben Mandelker]

Are they like the Danny and Nia of Rhode Island? I kind of feel like that that could be the case. Oh, it's actually a slideshow. Let's see what the next.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's got Adriana Face from Real Housewives of Miami.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm just scrolling.

[Ronnie Karam]

We should see if we could read his texts. Let's see. There's a picture, a screenshot of his text. Let me make it bigger. Oh, God, it's so tiny. Yeah, he's on a. On the. His phone is face down on the. Oh, I can't read it. I can't read that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, I see, I see.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was gonna try and catch him in some villainous activity, but I couldn't find that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like a little meal.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, gosh.

[Ben Mandelker]

The next print this one.

[Ronnie Karam]

Websites. What the hell?

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. The ads are crazy. Alicia Carmody, fiance Bill. By the way, these. These pictures from this. The Instagram account that they keep on talking about is Real Housewives of Rhode island, that allegedly has the inside track and all this stuff. And they are so excited. Every single person that they. They put up, they're like, meet Alicia, exclamation point. Fiance Bill. Absolutely stunning. Say hi to Alicia from the east side. So Alicia's from the east side, everyone. So the clue for her is this ranch, built in 1960, is located on the east side of Providence, the city's most prestigious neighborhood. It's Home of Rhode Island's first housewife. She's the fiance to a highly educated Democratic small business owner. And so then they all know that, I guess. Is there, like, one Democrat, Rhode Island?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, oh, it's the Democrat.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I guess so. I guess they're like, this is the Democrat. She's engaged to Bill, who owns Angelo's Palace Pizza.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Karam]

A pizza owner. A pizza place owner. I mean, she looks completely insane, by the way. And he looks like an undertaker. He looks like an undertaker with a business place. Like, he looks like he's waiting for you to die.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's just like a young Mitch McDonnell. Yeah, he. She looks like she will. She will fight to the death to defend her husband's pizza honor. She's like, you want to make fun of. You want to make fun of our slices? You want to make fun of Angelo's Palace Pizza or Antonio's Pizza by the slice or Pizza Mama Cranston? Because you're gonna have to go through me because I designed all those pizzas. I'm.

[Ronnie Karam]

Say one more thing about my pizza, I'll stick your foot up your ass. Foot, lady Pizza.

[Ben Mandelker]

Burn. How about Alicia Burn. Get out of here.

[Ronnie Karam]

She is so desperate to get a lower angle from the camera person that she has put an air vent and this horrible ceiling in her picture. I really like her also. She can look good. Her angles. So that's what we saw. What's the wall art?

[Ben Mandelker]

They're like, what is that?

[Ronnie Karam]

Is that a chalkboard?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a smudge. Is it like, chalkboards?

[Ronnie Karam]

This is. Guys, these were the original plans for the east side of Rhode Island. They would.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's from the east side, everyone. We painted a piece from Angelo's Palace Pizza and put it on the wall.

[Ronnie Karam]

Only a highly educated democrat would get this. Sorry for you dummies out there from.

[Ben Mandelker]

The east side and east side. Highly educated at Democrat who runs three pizza places.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, so there's your first look at the Rhode island cast. I am excited.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Oh, 100%. This looks great. There's actually even some more names, but there's, like, there's. There's a whole bunch of rumors, but there's no bios on them, so it's less fun. But, yeah, I just started. Just start playing it now. Bravo. We're ready.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, just give it to us. So there was a video this week of Kyle Richards that was pretty funny. And a cowboy hat and cowboy boots running around her house with that assistant who lost all feeling in her Legs. Remember her when she heard news this season? They're both running around the house in cowboy hats and cowboy boots, and Kyle, there's a little snake. It's like a little rat snake or something. It's not a scary snake. And it's at Kyle's door. And so she's running around the house screaming, terrified, and calls Mauricio to come get the snake. And I just thought it was funny because she's dressed like a cowgirl. Like, you can't be that afraid. Tell me you're a temporary cowgirl for the hoo ha without telling me, ma' am, go stomp on it. If you're so afraid of a cow, what kind of cowgirl are you?

[Ben Mandelker]

I know, exactly. Get a broom or something like that. Yeah, that's. That's wild.

[Ronnie Karam]

Just as. Just like in the vanderpump years, you know, whenever it comes to Kyle, I was rooting for the snake. I was like, get her.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yep.

[Ronnie Karam]

Get her. That snake didn't come to the reunion, and I was mad for, like, five years after.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's another video of Kyle that I saw last night where Kyle and Mauricio, inexplicably, I'm assuming, has to do with Bravo upfronts, which, ironically, the Bravo upfronts, not very upfront about what's going on with Roni. But Kyle and Mauricio and their grown daughters are all at, like, the club partying with the. With the season five cast of Love Island. So it's like Janae, Etc, Kendall, all them. And I'm just like. They're, like, dancing, and Marisa's like, hey, raise the roof. And I'm just like, okay, I'm fine if, like, Sophia and the other one and the other one, and if they're hanging out with these kids. But, Farah, why are you there? Farah and Kyle and Mauricio, why are you hanging out with the Love island kids? Like this. This. This. It's just like. It's. It was like. This was actually more cringy to me than all the stories about Lexi and her family. I was like, you guys have aged out of hanging out with these Love island kids in this capacity. Please stop doing this. It's just embarrassing. Now.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't think you're allowed to say that because we're old and we would hang out with the Love island cast.

[Ben Mandelker]

We're gay. We're gay.

[Ronnie Karam]

We're gay. We never age past a certain mental level because we're. We're too gay.

[Ben Mandelker]

We're immature.

[Ronnie Karam]

We're Peter loving pans.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, yeah.

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Here comes one right now.

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[Ronnie Karam]

So some news that I've thought was interesting. Katie Janela posted. And Katie Janela from OC for those of you who don't understand the skipping forward, Katie posted something on her Instagram, a story that was something like a compulsive liar. Well, that's how my something like I'm a boss lady. How my mom knows me. Great. You know, water A great, you know, garden waterer. How my gardener knows me. Compulsive. How my cast knows me. You know, it's one of those things knows me.

[Ben Mandelker]

My name's. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And it turns out that the rumor has started spreading that she is now out of Real Housewives of Orange county after getting in a huge fight with Emily Simpson and Gretchen Rossi from TV Deets. Katie wanted to go on the recent cast trip to Amsterdam, but she was not not allowed. Let's just say her future is not looking bright. Without saying too much, a major announcement will be coming soon regarding her status on the show. However, a source close to Katie denies the rumors, maintaining that she has not quit or been fired. The reason for her not being on the cast trip will be revealed in due time. They absolutely tried to villainize Katie this season. It's been brutal.

[Ben Mandelker]

I already know I'm gonna be on Katie's side for this. I just already know because it's Emily and Gretchen. So, like, the odds are I'll be on her side. I'm open to being on not on her side, but I do think it's really bad if she's not on the cast trip. Like, that is a really, really bad sign for her and her tenure on the Housewives.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, Katie and the other new blonde lady, I forgot her name, even though I really liked her. What was her name?

[Ben Mandelker]

Jen. Jen Pedronte.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they were hanging out with Alexis Bellino a lot after the season, and so I kind of lost respect for them, even though I like them on their season. But I was like, gross. So I'm prepared for them to come back and be gross. But Gretchen being back on the show, this is not going to be. This is going to be fun because it's going to give us somebody to be hateful towards, because I don't think Gretchen's going to be somewhat likable like she used to be. I mean, Gretchen was annoying, but she wasn't pure evil. I have a feeling she's coming back as pure, unadulterated evil. But it's aimed at Tamra, so that should be fun, because in other news, Tamra's news for the week is they just finished shooting Orange county, and Tamara had it rough. So rough that she quit the season and then had to be begged to come back. And she said, it was the most difficult season of my life. Ben.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Meanwhile, Teddi is sitting here, like, fighting for her life, and Tamara's like, oh, my God. Having to go on a complimentary trip to New Orleans. So difficult. Bitch. I mean, come on. I mean, one of the great things that. That. That Teddi did recently was that she just basically told Tamara, get your ass back onto your TV show where you have been hired and stop complaining. I'm the one going through shit, not you. And I'm glad you did that. I. I'm. This Orange county season seems like a total shit show, but, I mean, I think it's. I'm hoping it's gonna be a good shit show. Like, shit show in the best possible way.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. She said, she told Teddy, I'm not gonna tell you anything to happen, but I want you to be totally surprised. Roughest year ever for me. Roughest year ever. I don't know if I'll even get first seated reunion. You never know until you walk out on that stage.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you know, it's not a rough season. If you. If. If you didn't get first chair, then, you know, you didn't really have a rough season. Right. So when the people got really destroyed who wind up in that first chair.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. She's gonna be depressed now, though. She said so excited for that season as well.

[Ben Mandelker]

That means that people held her accountable. That's what that means.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, yeah. They probably read her for filth. And Emily doesn't have to be nice to Tamara anymore because she's got a new friend on the show. So this should be interesting because Emily and Gina are always in that kind of power vacuum where no one is really, truly taking them under. And then when people like Shannon have tried to take her take them under their wing, they just them over immediately just to try and get the more popular girls to like them. So this will all be very interesting to see how the pirates power dynamic shift.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. Emily's basically like a housewives mercenary. You know, she's. She's for hire. You want her to be on your side this season, you know, give her some margaritas at, you know, at whatever that place is that they don't want to say. Joffrey's, Javier's, you know, and then she'll be on your side and she will fight for you. And that's what they. That's how they stay in season after season. They just are in the middle and they're swing votes in the big fights that happen. And then everyone has fallen, you know, know, falls out, and then these two are left standing, and then they're ready to go for another season of, you know, driving us absolutely crazy. Well, Gina's the real one who makes me crazy. Not so much.

[Ronnie Karam]

She had half a good season this year where she didn't make us crazy, but, yeah, she had a really rough first half. So in keeping with the Bravo never learns its lesson news, people are freaking out because Madison Lacroix had a baby shower for the shoot of the new season of Southern Charm. And guess who showed up. Corey Keefer.

[Ben Mandelker]

I saw him in a photo recently with, like, Craig. Okay, so Corey Kiefer is back in the mix.

[Ronnie Karam]

So people are worried that he's going to be a cast member on Southern Charm. What say you?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, God, he's so. He's just so uninteresting. He's deeply uninteresting. Deeply uncharming. And I think he thinks he's way more interesting and way more charming than he really is. Oh, my God. Leave him on Winter House, please.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I don't want to have to see scenes shot in his gym where he did all the artwork of happy faces. Remember when he was like, yeah, I'm an artist.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Mostly a happy face artist. I painted my gym.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, yeah, he's. He's like. He's really deep. He really thinks about things, you know, on. On deep levels. And then smiley face form.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. I say, no, no, I do not.

[Ben Mandelker]

Want Corey Keefer back at all. At all. No way. The other things that are happening here let's see what Lisa Vanderbump has to say.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, Sheena's been coming for Lisa a lot lately. She wrote a. A book which is supposedly like a tell all where she comes for Lisa Vanderpump. And then she was in another interview saying that Lisa hasn't even called her to check on her. The only time Lisa ever calls is when she needs something. Why the else would Lisa call you? My ex bosses don't call me every day. Seeing how the I am. What does she care? Have you called her? She's the older one. Have you called her to say, hey, is Ken still. Is Ken's battery still going?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly. There's no reason for Lisa call Sheena. It's done.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then Ally has been going on a press tour because she has a new podcast. So Ali's like, lisa Vanderpump told me to forgive James, and I didn't even realize she was manipulating me until Sheena told me. I was like, oh, really? Did you feel like you were being manipulated by Sheena at all in that alley? Snap to it, Ally. Snap to it. Not that I doubt any of this, by the way, that Lisa Vanderpump is a manipulative person who's trying to stand up for a horrible man on Bravo, because we know that that's true. So Lisa's still all over the place. We talked to a Las Vegas press guy today for the show, the upcoming show in Vegas, and he was like, yep, Vegas is turning into Vander Vegas. It's everywhere. She's getting her own hotel, See, by Caesars, they're remodeling an entire hotel called the Vanderpump Hotel. She's got three restaurants there, so Vanderpump doesn't give a fuck, but they're trying it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. We were talking about how it's sort of interesting that. That there's not, like, a Lisa Vanderpump show that's taking place in Vegas, considering that she has multiple properties, you know, or multiple businesses there. She's got Pinkies and the Vanderpump Garden and now a new hotel. My theory is that there's gonna be some, like, Vanderpump Villa spin off that's only gonna launch as the hotel is nearing completion. So that way it can sort of, like, ramp up and. And it can, like, it can both promote the hotel, but also detail, like have this climactic opening, etc. I just hope that if they do something like that, I hope it. Hope it's more. I hope that it's taken Care of by Bravo and not by Hulu, because as we all know, Vanderpump Villa is like flaming hot garbage. And it's just, like, the worst.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, people are liking that this year. Have you watched it this year, the Vanderpump Villa?

[Ben Mandelker]

I started to watch some of it because our friend Taylor is on it. Taylor and Taylor are guests, so I do want to watch that episode or. Or their stretch that they are on.

[Ronnie Karam]

Taylor and Taylor, who's the other Taylor?

[Ben Mandelker]

Taylor struck her wife Taylor, so.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I.

[Ben Mandelker]

Plus, also, I'm just, like, curious about that sous chef who. I think I talked. I think I mentioned that on. On Crappy Hour a few weeks ago, how I met that sous chef at a restaurant. And he's basically like. He's like, I have no training except of what I learned on YouTube. But then he's like. And I was hired to be the sous chef to be on Vanderpump Villa. And I was like, oh, God. Oh, God. Want to see how he turned out?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I hear that's pretty good. Maybe I'll check it out. Probably won't. But I was so traumatized by the first one that I don't know that I'll go back to that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Lisa is asked about this, and she's about the new show, Vanderpump Rules, and she says it's moving along at a very fast pace, but it's totally different to the original show. Of course it has to be different. That story had been told.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. She's like, you could film that show 365 days a year. A few problems that have. That have worked there for years and obviously come with their own problems. I'm sorry. There are a few people that have worked there, but we all. We like to call our people problems. And they. We have a lot of problems working in our restaurant, and they come with their own people. And by people, I mean problems. And then there's new people joining us and problems.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Etc.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Karen is saying it's better, but still. Crap. I caught up on my shows. I needed something. You don't have to explain yourself. If you're allowed to, you're allowed to watch it. I'm allowed to watch it, too. You know, maybe one day I will give it another chance. I just. God, that really pissed me off last year. They were just that couple, that hideous couple. What were their names?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like? Terrible.

[Ronnie Karam]

Maruzio, Giacomo.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. They were just so terrible.

[Ronnie Karam]

Disgusting people.

[Ben Mandelker]

Disgusting files. Disgusting people.

[Ronnie Karam]

But I did see her post something like, dearest Vanderpump fans across the. Across the state, the city, the world, the universe, and the galaxy. I'm speaking on behalf of the poor, poor reality television cast members that have to be bullied on television. Please don't bully the animals. Please. They're here for your entertainment. Then someone was like, who? She's. Who's she standing up for? And someone's like, probably some awful man on Bravo. You know, some toxic man got in trouble on Vanderpump Villa, I guess. So she's out there protecting.

[Ben Mandelker]

No surprise.

[Ronnie Karam]

But I don't know why people are so surprised. She's standing up for terrible men. She needs them for her show. That's what she's made a fortune off of. Terrible men.

[Ben Mandelker]

Marciano. Someone says Marciano. Is that douchebag's name Marciano?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

I. You know what? I did sample on the airplane coming back from Texas, and we talked about it on our little road trip. I watched, like, the first 10 minutes of yes, Chef, because that's the Martha Stewart show with Jose Andres. I was really excited, and almost as soon as it began, I was like, oh, this is gonna be hot garbage. And I could be wrong, because I. I honestly was like, I just don't know if I could do this, because the whole gimmick, which I was not aware of, is that these are all amazing, accomplished chefs, but they all have personality problems. I had no idea that that was the gimmick. The gimmick is, like, they're. They have, like, toxic workplaces. Like, they're. They're very bossy or they're perfectionists or they don't have confidence or. And so this is about more than just about being, like, a better chef. And I was like, oh, hell no. I don't want to see. And then it was like the big. The person that I recognized from that group was Katsuji, who was on Top Chef, and he was so annoying on Top Chef. I was like, what? This is what you bamboozled me into? Why I've got. It was like. It looked like it was something that was on Fox. It was not up to. It should not at the level of, like, Martha Stewart and Jose Andres. And I was like, oh, no. And. And I started to watch. Like, when we got into the first challenge, I was like, this is. No, I don't think I can do this.

[Ronnie Karam]

So that's yes, Chef. That you're talking about the Martha Stewart.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, I don't need you to fix chefs. Please stop trying to fix chefs. You know what happens when you fix a Chef. They fail. Okay. You have to be emotionally up to be a chef. That's just how it goes. So something I just had up there that I wanted to read you something.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was keeping it up there so I could remember to read it. Okay, I'm putting it back back just so I remember to read it. This cracked me up because I read a story today speaking of all these jokers that Sheena. You know, Sheena's headlines are always so silly. It's like, Sheena Marie depressed and in bed for days. I'm like, why now? You know, what is it now? So she's depressed because she was. This is coming from Bonnie. Sheena cried because she got voted off Max masked singer first. She said it was the first time ever with no auto tune him. So that is sent. That has sent little Sheener into a tail spin.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, Sheener. Poor Sheener. Well, that is embarrassing. Victoria on air says Love Hotel is just as good as crappy lake. I have.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, hell no. How dare you? How dare you Both were good. Victoria on air hold me back.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think it. No, I actually, I am going to say I think love Love Hotel is better. And that's. No, that's not a diss. Crappy lake. I think Love Hotel is so good. I can't believe how good this show is. I'm so excited to do our recap.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love it too. It's old people falling apart. Like, the old men just, like, slowly crumbling in the sun. I think it's so good. And this, we got Shannon freaking out finally, which is amazing. What do you mean you don't eat vegetables?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, and the vegetable fight is way better than I thought it would be because, like, at the end of our last recap, you were saying, like, I can't wait for next week because Jen's gonna lose her mind over vegetables tables. And I thought it was gonna be just like a quick whatever, and then it was, like, not gonna be impactful, but it was like it shattered. It shattered her relationship with Earl the Pearl. I mean, Earl the Pearl. Earl the Pearl.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I think they might get married because you know what? Shannon loves a man who will argue. Shannon loves a toxic fight. She's had it with every person she's ever been with. I'm not saying it's healthy. I'm not saying she asks for fighting, but, you know, some of us have that kind of personality. We need a little conflict. And I think think Shannon is that person because Earl stood up to her and was like, why are you always criticizing me. And she's like, you know, I have been told that I, I, I, I'm, I'm mean to my partners. And so that triggered me, Earl. And he's like, well, but you were criticizing me, so I was asking you why? And she goes, well, you know, someone told me that I was toxic, and they just left me, and they never even told me why. And so that's what triggered me. I'm like, but he is telling you why. He's telling you flat out why, Shannon. And she's like, why are you telling me what's wrong? I'm like, he's literally telling you, Earl.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just want you to know that one year ago today, I got a dui, and tonight I'm having another dui. I am dining under the influence of vegetables.

[Ronnie Karam]

And if you can't join me on.

[Ben Mandelker]

This, then I'm afraid we're not gonna work out.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, well, I love that show. We'll be recapping that tomorrow. And don't forget, we'll be in Vegas this Thursday night for everybody out there. But now it is time to turn this over to the audience for, you know, little hangout time. So if you want to come chat with us on video, stay tuned. We're posting the link in the comments right now on YouTube and Patreon. So just click that and come on camera and talk to us. To everybody who's listening to this on audio, thank you so much for being here, and we will talk to you next time.

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