#2844 The Valley S2E05 Part Two: Notes of Bitterness and Acidity

Summary

Watch What Crappens Episode #2844 Summary: "The Valley S2E05 Part Two: Notes of Bitterness and Acidity"

Release Date: May 14, 2025

In the latest episode of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive deep into the tumultuous events of "The Valley" Season 2 Episode 5, aptly titled "Notes of Bitterness and Acidity." This long-form summary encapsulates their thorough analysis, witty commentary, and critical insights into the unfolding drama among the cast members.

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1. Episode Overview

Ben and Ronnie kick off the discussion by recapping the intense dinner scene at the Santa Barbara house, where tensions run high among the participants. The episode revolves around complicated relationships, accusations of infidelity, and struggles with alcohol, painting a vivid picture of the complex dynamics within the group.

Ronnie Karam [04:10]: "So Neil's like, okay, well, thanks for the apology, but we're gonna move on. Now I've got another storyline ready to go with my husband."

2. Key Conflicts and Accusations

The hosts dissect the heated exchanges between Jesse and Michelle, highlighting Jesse's baseless accusations and Michelle's frustration over his inability to move past their issues.

Ben Mandelker [05:46]: "But the fact, the fact is we've got this is a red flag."

They discuss how Michelle confronts Jesse about his relationship troubles, emphasizing the emotional strain it places on everyone, especially their daughter Isabella.

Ronnie Karam [08:02]: "So basically Michelle's like, you guys aren't going to last. Stop telling Isabella. This is Second mommy."

3. Alcohol Abuse and Its Impact

A significant portion of the episode revolves around Danny's excessive drinking. Ben and Ronnie critique Danny's behavior, noting how his alcoholism affects the group's dynamics and the overall atmosphere of the dinner.

Ben Mandelker [05:46]: "I think it's sad. I know. It's like something that people do in their 20s... If you're over 40 and you're at a winery and you're like, I gotta catch up. It's a red flag."

Ronnie shares personal anecdotes paralleling the episode's events, such as dealing with toxic couples during her travels, further illustrating the pervasive issue of public displays of personal turmoil.

Ronnie Karam [14:26]: "No, nobody's falling for any of that. And Brittany's like, oh, we all live here and we're gonna say what our hall pass is."

4. Group Dynamics and External Opinions

The hosts explore how other group members, like Jasmine and Brittany, respond to the ongoing conflicts. They highlight the double standards and differing approaches to handling personal issues within the group.

Ben Mandelker [36:34]: "She just sort of frustrated. She hasn't been like, Danny's not dressed. She is saying he's tired."

Ronnie points out the unfair treatment towards Nia, who is caught in the middle of defending her husband while also facing criticism for her own actions.

Ronnie Karam [37:09]: "But she's not telling him how to live his life. But she's saying, like, you can date these people, but like, like, stop."

5. Hosts’ Critique and Personal Insights

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie offer candid critiques of the show's portrayal of relationships and personal struggles. They express frustration over the superficial handling of deep-seated issues and the impact of public airing of private matters.

Ben Mandelker [39:02]: "Like, honestly, how much does that suck? Dania now has to field all these questions for Danny's behavior, and she has to also spend half this dinner tending to him."

Ronnie shares her personal experiences with similar scenarios, enhancing their commentary with relatable stories.

Ronnie Karam [16:31]: "I just realized now that I told you the story, it was the site. It was two times that day that I yelled at someone to shut the fuck up."

6. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, Ben and Ronnie reflect on the chaotic nature of "The Valley" and its ability to captivate audiences despite—or perhaps because of—the constant drama. They acknowledge the divisive nature of the show's content but agree that it remains undeniably engaging.

Ben Mandelker [45:23]: "It was very fascinating for me to watch. But either way, it's definitely... you can't say this show is boring at the very least definitely going on on the Valley."

Ronnie concludes with a teaser for upcoming episodes and events, maintaining enthusiasm for future discussions and content.

Ronnie Karam [46:05]: "We've got some gopros up in the car and just talk nonsense for a long time. Three episodes worth."

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Notable Quotes

• Ronnie Karam [04:10]: "So Neil's like, okay, well, thanks for the apology, but we're gonna move on."
• Ben Mandelker [05:46]: "I think it's sad... If you're over 40 and you're at a winery and you're like, I gotta catch up. It's a red flag."
• Ben Mandelker [14:26]: "Nobody's falling for any of that."
• Ben Mandelker [39:02]: "Like, honestly, how much does that suck?"

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Final Thoughts

Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam provide a comprehensive and engaging analysis of "The Valley" S2E05, blending sharp humor with critical insights. Their ability to dissect complex interpersonal dynamics while maintaining an entertaining narrative makes this episode a must-listen for fans and newcomers alike.

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[Ben Mandelker]

Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode. So Neil's like, okay, well, thanks for the apology, but we're gonna move on. Now I've got another storyline ready to go with my husband. And Luke is like, you know, less. Sometimes more, man. Less is more broken.

[Ronnie Karam]

I learned that in Monet. Okay? I learned that on a trip to Monet. So. So then they all go back to the table except Luke and Jesse. And Michelle's telling the girls what just happened as if they weren't five feet away. And Britney's like, I'm proud of Michelle for getting in there and sticking up for herself. But we're also in this, like, really expensive, beautiful place. I mean, have some class, people. Am I right? Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

So Lady Grassini comes by.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're not wrong. But you're also constantly doing this.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, yeah, they're like, okay, thanks for coming here. We got our name out there onto Bravo, so you can go now. Bye. Are these people friends with the Dubros, by the way? Why do I feel like they're friends with the Dubro?

[Ronnie Karam]

No, they're too easy going and chill. But that guy, I'm telling you, if there was a time machine, that was Lindsey Graham. That was Lindsey Graham we just saw, it was like, baby Lindsey Graham, if.

[Ben Mandelker]

I have to drag people by their nipples to leave, I will. I will. So then Danny's chugging everyone's glasses.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like drunk uncle at the end of Thanksgiving, standing up and just taking all the half glass, half glasses of wine and taking them on the way out.

[Ben Mandelker]

I also feel like I kind of like the whole thing of like, I gotta catch up. Oh, I missed everything. I gotta catch up. I feel like if you're sincerely trying to catch up with everyone, the amount of, like, the quantity of booze that people have had, and you're like over 40. I think that's sad. I think it is sad. I know. It's like something that people do in their 20s. Like, oh, I missed the party. You gotta catch up, whatever. But, like, if you're over 40 and you're at a winery and you're like, I gotta catch up. It's like, you don't. You don't. You just drink. Just drink normally. Like, that's. This is. This is a. This is a red flag.

[Ronnie Karam]

Already is. Nia pointed out he's already way caught up. At one point, she's like, okay, you caught up. And this was like 2 hours ago in their time. So we go back to the Santa Barbara house, and Kristin's like, I mean, Jesse is like, complicated, but, you know, like, minute he's calling his ex wife a hooker, but, you know, he did buy his dinner, so.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm not sure that that's complicated. I think this is actually a pretty clear cut. He buys, he buy, pays off his friends to get away with the bad deeds. So I think that's a pretty simple. Pretty simple person there. So now it's time for them to have this dinner that some private chefs have made. They have some sweet corn bisque with scallops, which I kind of wanted looked delicious. And then Danny. Danny's like going. He goes like, into the pantry. And there's like a. He gets like an emerald arrow to be like, ding. Danny. And Janet goes in there too. And then Janet's like, ooh. She tells us, like, you know, I venture into the pantry, and suddenly Danny is following me in. And I see this shadow hovering over me. And at first I was used to it because I just assumed it was my hood. But then I realized, wait, I'm not in my kitchen. What is this thing coming at my head? It was Danny, and he was hunched over and he was chugging tequila. I was like, why do you have to hide it?

[Ronnie Karam]

He hasn't really been hiding it, but I guess he did. I guess he did there, but he just like basically shoved 10 bottles of wine down his throat right in front of all of you. So I don't know that I'd accuse him of hiding, but maybe he was hiding it because Nia told him to stop drinking or whatever, saying, okay, you need to slow down, Daniel. Slow down, Daniel. So he went in there and chugged it. And then meanwhile, Zach, Jasmine, and Melissa are sitting down looking at the water. Michelle goes to Jesse's door and goes in. He's got his headband on. So here we go.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So she's saying, like, it's exhausting. What a yo yo and a roller coaster. Jesse is. He's like a yo yo on a roller coaster. So many things going in so many directions. Because basically he texted her saying, like, can we go down to the ocean and talk? And so she's saying it's really annoying because he has these public outbursts and then wants to talk about things privately. And she's just really at her wit's end, right?

[Ronnie Karam]

So she goes up to his room to talk to him and he's like, do you want to close the door? Go. Go outside and close the door and have an actual conversation. She goes, okay, go ahead. So they're just standing there on this balcony. There's no furniture or anything. She's standing there with his. Her arms crossed. And he's like, listen, you know, here's my problem. And again, no apology. No apology for double doubling down on hooker accusations or whatever. He's like, I just listen. You're going around telling everyone how happy you are. She goes, but I am, Abby, look at me. I am Zo. Abby. He's like, well, then why can't you be happy for me? And she goes, why are you so obsessed with this girl? We have a child. And he's like, and I'm in love with this person.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, I don't think Jesse was expecting me to move on. And I think it hurts him a little bit. And he wants me to acknowledge his happiness so he can believe that he is happy, when clearly he isn't, which I think is true. So Michelle's like, all I care about is Isabella. She's constantly telling me that she has a second mommy. And it's not fair. You're not thinking about this because is going to be one of many. This is going to affect Isabella. So basically Michelle's like, you guys aren't going to last. Stop telling Isabella. This is Second mommy. Because there going to be a lot of mommies coming through here.

[Ronnie Karam]

And again, I mean, she's right. But you can't tell him how to live his life now because they're separated and you're doing the same thing. So this couple is just making me crazy because they're both just walking disasters. Like I'm Team Michelle because Jesse so bad. But I mean, I don't think she's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Telling him how to live his life. But she's saying, like, you can date these people, but like, like, stop. Like, don't allow, don't. Don't bring them so close that they're like, viewed as like a second mommy. You know, she has boyfriend. She does. But I think, But I think though that what's his face. She's. She introduces him as like a friend, right? Not as like romantic. I don't really know exactly. But it's. It sounds like from what the implication is that, that Jesse is exposing Isabella to maybe too intense a degree of the new woman. But, I mean, I don't know. But I think she's just like.

[Ronnie Karam]

I know what she's saying. I'm just saying she's guilty of it, too. They're both, they're both doing it wrong. As someone with no children, let me tell you how easy it is to judge parenting. You're both wrong. Both doing this terribly, terribly wrong. So he's like, so. So what? Who gives a shit? And she's like, don't involve my daughter. And he's like, that's my daughter. She goes, yes, it is our daughter. So. So meanwhile, Jasmine and them can all hear this. And so Jasmine's like, well, I mean, they're in a crazy place, but I. I really think that, you know, he's still into her. Like the way that he looks at her, like he wants her, he misses her. And Zach's like, oh, no, no. It's just like Jack's Taylor Narcissist. Like, I don't want you, but I'm going to say whatever I need in the moment to just like pull you, man. Pull you in. And she like, yeah. And he called her hooker again.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we got back to the. Yeah. So then we go back to the fighters, and she's like, you called me an escort. Why would I be happy for you? And he's like, well, she's spending five days a week with your daughter, so what the hell? Why wouldn't she call her mom? It's like his reasoning, he doesn't get it at all. And she's like, yes, that is the boy and she shouldn't be.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she, and she's like, you started dating her five months ago. It's disrespectful. It's like, I started dating her when? Five months ago or two years ago? In November? Not two years ago. Because he's of course alluding to the guy in her life. And she's like, that's not even, that's not even possible. I took care of our child while he was the one who was always out. And I already told you the truth. I don't know what more you want from me. And he's like, I think you're a liar and a cheater.

[Ronnie Karam]

So he's like, yeah, she's trying to create a narrative that I'm a bad guy and it's all my fault. But she cheated on me and gave up on our marriage after she cheated. She gave up on your marriage because she's married to a douchebag who refused to go to work and went out partying every night while she was at home raising the baby. I mean, come on, we all see it. And if she cheated, good for her.

[Ben Mandelker]

And also if she cheated, why do you want her to be happy for you then? Why do you need the approval of this woman who cheated on you? Okay, so. And I agree. If she did cheat, good for her, because she probably needed it real bad.

[Ronnie Karam]

And now she's saying she admitted to kissing somebody, but that's it. But I think since she has admitted to cheating but says it wasn't with Honeyman, it was with some crazy eyed Honeyman, it was with somebody else. So Jesse's like, did you or did you not? And she's like, you are a piece of shit. And he goes, you're the only lying, cheating whore that I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

And everyone's downstairs, this is rough.

[Ronnie Karam]

This show is rough. I gotta be honest, it's like if we weren't doing this, I would have turned this show off.

[Ben Mandelker]

I can't. Oh, wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

I guess I just don't, I don't find it riveting at all. I find it disgusting. I think it's like nasty, trashy people just being nasty and trashy. Then I think of their kids like growing up. It's just gross. It's just gross, gross.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Jasmine's like, they're all listening and they're like, oh my God, this is crazy. I'm just like, you, I came here for your well being. And look at you, look at you. You're a child. You're a child right now. I came here for your well being, okay? And you seem perfectly fine. And I made a mistake. I made a big mistake. And thinking. And Jesse's like, did you or did you not cheat? And finally she just. There's a drink nearby. She takes. Just throws it in his face, which was really great. And then she's. He's like, well, I guess you just answered that question. She's like, why do. What do I have to do to make you stop? And she just pretty much like yelling at him. And she's like, you want me to scream to everybody? And he's like, yeah, yeah, scream at everybody. So she's like, fine, everybody. My husband refused to hug me and kiss me and tell me I'm pretty. And everyone's like listening. This is very much like, who's afraid of Virginia Wool? Of like the couple that is just like fighting in front of you. And you're like, oh, my God, get me out of here right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And she's still yelling and screaming about that. And then everyone's still listening downstairs. And Jasmine was like, did you hear that? She said that you spent all the money. She said that again? She said it again. And she's like, you are disgusting. So she walks off. Did I tell you the other day? And I don't think I did because we didn't drive together, but the hotel in Dallas, those walls were so thin. I don't know how the hotel was built, but you could hear everything going on in the rooms.

[Ben Mandelker]

I had to change my room. I had a toddler next to me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes, well, I had a toxic couple next to me. It reminded me of these two. So I woke up in the morning to fighting. It's like 8 in the morning, okay. And these two are already going at it. And she's like, you. You don't give me anything I want. And then he's like, but I love you and I'm not trying. No, you never put me first. You never put me first. You. You. You're trash. Like, it was horrible. And she was like. And he's like, oh, but I. What? I do put you first. How? Don't I make you a priority? And she's like, you don't. Where's my kitchen? Which I thought was really funny. And so I'm packing my stuff, just listening to them. And basically he was just like, oh, I'm sorry. But of course, in my mind I'm like, oh, please. What did you. What did you do to get us here? You know, I watch Enough of the valley to know this is on all a one way street. So I pack up my stuff. They're still going out. It's 8:30 now and she's still like cursing this guy out. And finally I just went to where I was hearing it from in the room and I went, divorce each other. Save us all some fucking time. You're a terrible fucking couple.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh my God. Did they say anything?

[Ronnie Karam]

They qu. Oh my God, my watch started. It's. Listen again. Julia Louis Dreyfus. I yelled so much. I got my watch talking, but they just got really quiet and listened. I went, seriously? And then I left. And then they. I just heard them start fighting again. When they. When I was walking out the door.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, wow, that's so much better than having a loud toddler. I just had like. I was. At first I was like, okay, I could do this. Like, it's fine, like as a toddler. But then I was like, you know what if this toddler starts crying in the middle of the night and I gotta wake up like at like butt clock am I'm not. I do not want to be woken up out of my sleep. But for this toddler. And it was just like, the parents were like trying to calm the toddler. It was like. And then they had another child that was running. I was like. And I was like, you know what? I'm. No, I'm not gonna. These walls are too thin for this.

[Ronnie Karam]

But I just realized now that I told you the story, it was the site. It was two times that day that I yelled at someone to shut the fuck up. Because I also did it at the movie theater, as I told you the other day. So. Wow, that was quite a mother's day for me.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's a great. Yeah, that's a great day. So, okay, so everyone's like, like Michelle is now like airing everything out into the house. She's like, she's at the bottom of like the staircase and she's like basically screaming. And everyone's like, oh my God. And Zach's like, did she kill him? Did she kill him? In one silence?

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm crack.

[Ben Mandelker]

He does.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's just like a big long silence.

[Ben Mandelker]

And goes, did she kill him?

[Ronnie Karam]

So Jasmine's like, oh, you know, they've just. They just go so low. And you know, she's been hiding. He says that she's been hiding and that she's been spending all this money and. And then she said that he's been spending all the money. And then, you know, she put that out there. She put that out there. I mean, that's what they just did.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So then. So then now Michelle is, like, standing elsewhere and she's, like, really upset, like, crying perhaps. And he is like, hi, I heard you were a little upset. You know, you look really pretty in this light. Should I take a picture of you? Sorry, I'm just trying to make you laugh. I, like, that's, like, the universal way to, like, warm people on this cast. This would be really good on social media. Should I take a photo of you right now while you're crying? The lights.

[Ronnie Karam]

We want you to get a shot for your profile on Insta.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know you're shattered right now, but the lighting is really good on you.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then it kind of calms down a little bit. And we go up to Danny upstairs. He's snoring in bed, wasted. And then Nia comes in and she's like, honey, are you sleeping? Are you gonna have dinner or are you just gonna continue your siesta? Honey, isn't this cute? Everybody? Look at my husband sleeping. So cute. Okay, I guess you're just gonna stay here then. So she leaves and Brittany's like, it's dinner time.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so they all go out to their. This table. And then bungee. Okay, Paper Benji. He's tipped to one of the chairs so that way his feet don't have to touch the dusty ground. And everyone comes out it' and they're. They're still trying to wake up Danny, and he is just not waking up whatsoever. So then Jasmine's saying how, like, before dinner, you know, me and Janet were talking, and she told me that she caught Danny in the cupboard taking shots. And it kind of made her feel uncomfortable because, like, we all know that he has an issue with, like, drinking and he kind of gets inappropriate. And, you know, I've dealt with this dark side of Danny before. And so she's, like, very unsettled by all of this. And she tells the story again about Halloween, about how he grabbed her thigh and was like, get daddy a drink. Which is, like, so gr. Like, incredibly gross.

[Ronnie Karam]

And grabbed Melissa's butt. And she's like, he did apologize. And then we see a clip of him being like, that is not in my nature, that I'm so, so sorry, you guys. And she goes, but, you know, like, I'm still uncomfortable. So they do a cheers to friendship, you know, And Kristen's like, oh, be.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kind to each other.

[Ronnie Karam]

Gasket. So then everyone, basically, they start eating. The. The guy comes and gives them their food. And like, oh my God, this soup is like, it's just. I want to marry it. Zach's like, oh, my God. Can you sexually be attracted to soup? Yes. Zarina is on below deck.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Britt's phone starts dinging because she's getting more text messages from Jax. And it's like, also like, she's clearly writing back to him, by the way, because even Jax is not going to send this many unanswered text messages, right? Like he's not going to send 45 text messages over the course of 24 hours unless he's getting some sort of responses. So she's clearly writing back.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, yeah, she says. She says, whenever he takes me and does all this stuff, you know, I just can't help myself but look at him or respond. I don't know why. I've just put Jax before me for so many years. I just need to help figure out how to put myself first again. That's what I need to do. Brittany first here.

[Ben Mandelker]

God.

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WONDERY at checkout at 24. I lost my narrative. Or rather, it was stolen from me. And the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes, and politics. I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks both recognizable and unrecognizable names about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaiming and feel like they filled their tank up, they connected with the people that I'm talking to and leave with maybe some nuggets that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad free right now by joining Wondery plus us in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts. Yeah, and everyone's trying to take the phone away from her and be like, no, Brittany, don't do this. And he has, like, his manipulation. So then. Then Jason's like, hey, guys, should we try to wake up Danny? It's like, no, no, he's just sleep deprived. You know, he has to really catch up. He had a hard morning making zombie noises. And, you know, he's just this baby, so he's just really tired. You know how we all get.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's gonna go try and wake him up again, right? Because everybody's asking about Danny, Danny, Danny. So she goes in, and then Jasmine's like, oh, my God, this is so fake. You guys are so fake with this. And Nia's like, guys, Jasmine, Jason. Oh, I guess she hasn't left yet. Does. Does she leave now?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, no, she's leaving somewhere in here to get, like, a sweatshirt because she's cold.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, okay, I see. So she comes back. So then Kristen's like, this is, like, stressful. So let's play a game. Hall pass.

[Ben Mandelker]

Pass.

[Ronnie Karam]

Let's play hall pass. Okay, let's play. All pass.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Zach's like, I'm a Channing Tatum. Duh. Okay. Channing Tatum would be passing by in the hallway, but I don't know. Does the hall pass get any say in these?

[Ben Mandelker]

I know exactly.

[Ronnie Karam]

Then Jason says our hall passes just all flesh bots. Who would. Just any old person from a dinner party.

[Ben Mandelker]

I suppose so. And Jason's like, I'm a big Lady Gaga guy, so, you know, make some music and just, you know, banging out. I guess. Didn't. Wasn't there another show on Bravo where a guy was like, yeah, I'm really into Lady Gaga. Who was that? It was driving me crazy. I can't think of it, but I know someone who's listening, knows exactly what we're talking about. It was from like two or three years ago, but Jason having Lady Gaga as his hall pass, that kind of surprised me. I did not see that as, as a hall pass for him. I don't know what I thought he'd be like Kim Kardashian or something. But like not Lady.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, yeah, you know, we could just make some music and like bang it out.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay. Against the low lying hood in your kitchen. Yes. You'll be banging your foreheads, that's for sure. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Luke, Luke's like, I guess the Little Mermaid. I'm like, what? They're like pre. Pre legs or post legs.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm just feeling a little concerned. A cartoon mermaid, wow. Learn something new every day. I mean, that's gotta be great news for Kristen because to know that like, well, I guess he's not going to cheat on me because he's attracted to a cartoon. I might find him a vhs, but that's okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, there are mermaids now. It's like a whole culture. Mermaid ladies.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then thing I see on Facebook, for some reason they keep advertising like mermaid retreats to me. Do I, do I just seem like I need a mermaid retreat? They're like, bring your mermaid tails, ladies. And we're gonna bond as mermaids out in the ocean. No husbands alive. And then they show video of just women swimming, swimming around the ocean and the mermaids and flapping their tails on rocks.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that's an interesting algorithm to, to stumble into. I wonder if it's like Temu or something.

[Ronnie Karam]

Bears killing people at Yellowstone and. And mermaids flopping around on Patricia.

[Ben Mandelker]

We need to see a bear eating a mermaid.

[Ronnie Karam]

And two.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, we don't actually have hall passes because we live in LA and we are actually friends with celebrities and meet celebrities. So you can't just be like, oh, I'm gonna run into Chris Hemworth and have sex with him. Like they're all looking at her like, we all live in LA and we all have some degree of fame at this point, so. What are you talking about, Nia?

[Ronnie Karam]

But I love that Mia's like, oh, yeah, you know, Jesse's. Jesse's an under five on the Walking Dead. So we. I could fuck Crimson. You never know when Chris Hemsworth is really going to try to fuck me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, where did that come from? And I mean, and the funny thing is, like, Jasmine and Kristen, who've been on TV way longer than the. Like, Jasmine's like, yeah, but not every celebrity, you know? And Jason's like, you. So you'd have sex with all of them. You're saying that, like, you would just have sex with every celebrity that you saw? She's like, no, I mean, we rub shoulders with celebrities. You know, there's the guy who does the El Pollo Loco commercial. He's pretty famous. And also the guy who works at Baja Fresh around the corner. He did a national ad for Enterprise Rent a Car. So I don't know, it's just really risky to give out hall passes, especially so many of the people that we know are related to Mexican fast casual restaurants.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, no one's falling for any of that. And Brittany's like, oh, we all live here and we're gonna say what our hall pass is. Okay, you see, Britney's starting to get perturbed here for some reason, and he is like, no, we don't talk about hall passes. And Jasmine's like, okay, Nia, but you said Jamie Fraser last year. Because remember when he dressed up on Halloween as Jamie Fraser from Outlander? She goes, oh, yeah, okay, Jamie Fraser then. Yeah, he's my hall pass. He's my. He's fictional, so he's my whole pass.

[Ben Mandelker]

And this somehow gets a flashback, Not Dani's other behavior, but this gets one. So basically, Jasmine helped out Nia by being, hey, remember, here's a name you can give to shut everyone up. So Zach is like, if you end up in bed with Dani, by the way, because now Nia's going inside. She's like, I'm really cold right now. I need to go inside and put on a sweatshirt. Which is her way of being like, I'm uncomfortable with this hall pass conversation. And I need to check in on Dani to see if he's gonna go.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sit in the sauna or something. Something. So they're like, whatever, you better come back down here. So she leaves. And then Brittany is immediately like, okay. I mean, like, come on, we all know that he was drunk. Why she Acting like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Jazz was like, well, he drove all the way out here just to go to sleep. That makes no sense to me. Yeah, because that. No, because that's not what happened. Jan's like, Well, I think, though, that she knows how much he's drinking. So, you know, Jasmine's like, but what? But she's like, oh, he's sleepy. I'm okay. I'm not dumb. Just say, you know, he had too much drink at the winery. He needs to go to sleep.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, but everybody already knows. That's what I don't. I don't really understand this, because everybody already knows. Danny's wasted, and that's why he's in bed, crashed out. So I'm confused as to why.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think that her feelings.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is like, why is she keeping a secret that he's wasted? She's not. She's not saying he's not wasted. She's not saying anything like that. She's just staying. He's in bed sleeping.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I imagine that from Jasmine's perspective, she's probably thinking, you know, this guy is a real mess, and, like, I bore the brunt of it. And then we gotta act like kid gloves around him when I'm the one who actually was affected by it. That's what mind is going to.

[Ronnie Karam]

But that's my thing. What are the kid gloves? I mean, the guy's asleep. So if the guy was down here wasted, you'd be like, oh, here's Danny down here wasted. So isn't it better that he's like. Like, isn't it showing, like, more respect that he's upstairs keeping his drunk ass away from you guys until he sobers up a little bit?

[Ben Mandelker]

I think she's just like, why are we acting like, oh, he's just asleep because he's really tired from the kids in the driving. It's like, no, he's. He's. He's asleep right now because he got wasted. Just say he got wasted. I think that's what she's thinking. Like, why do we have to tiptoe around the fact that he's got wasted. He's just wasted. It's fine. I think, actually, if anything, she's kind of agreeing with you, in my mind of what she's saying is that, like, he's wasted. There's no big deal about it, but the fact that we're, like, not saying that he's wasted is kind of like trying to protect him in some weird way.

[Ronnie Karam]

I think what I'm trying. I think what I'm I know that she's saying that because, like, she's literally saying that. But I think what I'm. I think what's getting me is I'm not standing up for Danny. Like, I'm standing up for Nia because, like, I don't think Nia's really done anything to them. And they're like coming for Nia and I'm. I just don't really understand. Like, she hasn't been like, Danny's not dressed. She is saying he's tired. He did drive to go to work and then drove all the way back. Santa Barbara's not close and they do have the three kids. But she's not saying that he's not drunk. So I just don't. I don't know why they're coming for Nia. I say wait for Danny to wake up and then come for Danny's ass. Like, I think it doesn't do anything wrong. Like, Nia's not doing anything.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I think later on when they come for Nia, it's kind of like, okay, you guys are reaching a little bit now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, that's why I mess now because it's kind of building from this. And I'm like, well, say it to her face. A, have the fucking nuts to say it to her face face. And B, yell at Danny. What Nia do? She's just trying to keep it all together. Like, of course she's gonna want to make her husband look not as like shit faced and stupid as an immature as he is.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, yeah, I think that like, she's within her rights to like, yeah. To protect her husband. To be like, she knows that he's wasted and she knows there's like an issue. And I think that she's like, within her rights to be like. Like, yeah, I'm not gonna put my husband's out there. From this table of people who are. These are all like, like piranhas. But I'm just saying I think I know why Michelle. I'm not. Not Michelle. Jasmine's getting a little worked up right now. Less so for Brittany. Brittany is. Brittany is more like, okay, I don't want to be the only one in a shit sandwich right now. So then we cut.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, they're working each other up so that this is where that all starts. So they start working each other up and then Danny's kind of awake and she's like, oh, I guess you're just catching up on sleep, huh? You must be really tired. Yeah, catching up on three years of sleep. Three years of sleep. Under three years. Under three years. Under three. Under three, under three. So he's like, why didn't you come get me? And she's like, I did, honey. And he's like, nia, no, you didn't check. Yes, I did. It's like, nia. Oh, shut up, you drunk idiot.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, shut up.

[Ronnie Karam]

So you've already gotten your wife in trouble. Now your wife is gonna have to go down there and deal with a bunch of mean because you're. You're a drunk.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Kristen's like, I don't even know what's going on, what's happening right now. Seriously. And Jasmine's like, just. Just say what it is. Just say he's drunk right now. Yeah, he's drunk. And that's fine. It's whatever. We were all at a winery. Yeah, but just say he's drunk. And Kristen's like, what? And Jasmine is doing like, I'm sick of this bullshit when people go like, oh, well, he's just taking a nap. I mean, I know Nia comes from the pageant world and everything is buttoned up and perfect. And I think that, like, right now she's trying to give that Ms. USA answer, like, you know, he's taking a nap. But like, really, it's like, girl, we know what's happening here. Just say what it is.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, so Luke's like, well, he's tired. And Brittany's like, oh, oh, he's tired and looks like, yeah, he's got three little kids. I mean, I'm not saying he didn't drink, but, like, he's tired all the time, so he's sleeping. And Kristen's like, so why does she have to say he's drunk? Because he's tired and he drinks. Like, what's the point? I'm with Kristen and Luke. I just don't get what they're mad about. So Jasmine's like, but that's not what I'm saying. Kristen. Kristen's like, well, I'm confused though, though. So Britney's like, but I have to share my entire life and everything I'm going through, but nobody else does. Oh, that's funny. That's funny. That's. I'm sorry, Brittany, but everybody's life isn't a disaster like yours. Okay, yeah, well, like, every. You don't have to get mad at everybody for not being a disaster. Like, you guys are. Okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

That's not just because you have, like, these meltdowns all the time and you're part of this, this. This show. Like, you were voluntarily bringing this forward in front of people. So, like, don't get mad because Nia wants to protect her husband a little bit. So Brittany's like, I've noticed him not being genuine all day. Like little things leading up to this. I saw Nia calling him on the phone and yelling him and on the bus. And we see that flashback again. And then in the Uber when they're fighting the back seat and then there's like Nia gets like snippy about him interrupting. And then, and then at dinner he's trying to say he's just tired from.

[Ronnie Karam]

The get go, whatever.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, that's fine. I mean, you could definitely notice that stuff. But like, I just feel like if they're having issues and you're having issues, they don't have to present their issues the way you present your issues because just because you chose, that's how you to deal with your issues.

[Ronnie Karam]

Right. Because everything that she just said proves that they are putting their stuff on camera. She's like, she was fighting with him in the bus. Okay, well, that was on camera. She was fighting with him on the phone on the bus. Okay, well, that was on camera too. Like, so what are you saying? That they're hiding? I don't really understand it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I, I, I firmly believe that like, if they, if they wanted to put it out there, like, like you, they'll put it out there. You know, I shouldn't even say if they'll want. It's all they are putting tv.

[Ronnie Karam]

They're just not fighting over it. Like Jackson, Britney's talking toxic asses would. Like, Britney's acting like, oh, well, we spent all last season, Jax yelling at me for being a drunk. Me being crying and him not supporting me, and me sobbing all the time. Well, why are you acting like you get a medal of honor for that? It's like you, you, she wants like a purple heart for being on reality TV and going through that when really it's just kind of tacky behavior when you're on group vacations and you ruin every single one with your toxic relationship, you know? Yeah. So this lady's not hiding anything. She's also fighting with her husband. They're just not walking disasters like you. Now, on the other hand, I know that Britney's also just going through a lot. So she's, I think she's just kind of freaking out here because she's going through stuff with Jackson texting her over and over again.

[Ben Mandelker]

The one thing that Brittany has going in her favor is that she sort of has this feeling of, like, wow, you know, like, when Jax texts me, Nia has no problem just weighing in and saying, like, oh, he's trying to manipulate you. Like, she has no problem doing that. But then, like, when she's going through shit like, we're not allowed to know about it. And so I understand why Britney may feel frustrated by what she perceives as a. As a double standard. But I also think, like, people handle things and, like, people handle fights in different ways. And just because you handle your stuff in a extremely. You and Jax handle your. In extremely public, loud and tacky ways doesn't mean that everyone else has to handle their. Their and their dirty laundry in the same way. Some people don't like to air their.

[Ronnie Karam]

She kind of acts like her. Her and Jack acting like that publicly on television is doing us all a favor when it's like, babe, you're subjecting us all to your. You know what I mean? Like, you're subjecting all of your friends to your toxic relationship constantly. It's not a good thing. It's not something to brag about. It's gross.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Britney would. And Brittany would have a stronger leg to stand on if. If she had said to Nia, hey, I think that, like, it seems like Danny is hitting the bottle a little bit too hard these days. I know he's overworked and he's tired, but, like, this was a little crazy. And then if Nia said butt out, then Brittany could say, well, you had no problem butting into my situation. So I'm just trying to, you know, I'm giving you feedback the way you gave me feedback. But she's not really doing that. She's just saying, like, she's just sort of frustrated that, like, Nia weighed in about the Jack text and then yet Britney feels like she can't weigh in with the.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she's saying, you guys can be Mr. And Mrs. Perfect 24 7. But how are they doing that when they just fought three times on camera that you pointed out yourself. But my relationship's out in the open for everybody to comment over. So. Yeah, we've already gone over that. So she's like, it's not fire. So then Jasmine's like, yeah, just say he's lit. And Britney's like, idiot. And then Britney gets up and I like when we see a little backstage Britney, like, what? Britney is really like, like, she gets up and she's like, I will not do it. I'm done. Idiots. She's like, storms inside.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So it's all Becoming, like, more and more of a shit show. And they're all fighting, and I don't know. I'm lost in the nose. I know what happened, but, like, I don't know where you are, so you just keep going.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Kristen's basically like, why is everybody getting their tits in a twist over the smallest, stupidest things? Like, he's drunk. We're on a friend trip. Like, who cares? Like, who does? Like, when did we have. When are we going to get a vanderpump rule spin off? And then people are not allowed to be drunk anymore. Like, what the fuck show is this? You know? So she's like, I mean, did. And did they even bring it up when you still sitting at the table? No, they waited till she left so they could run their mouths together and get each other all amped up, which is. I can't believe I'm agreeing with Kristen constantly on this show. But that's what's making me crazy. You know, it's like they won't say it to her face, but now they're going off like they're. You know. Anyway. So Kristen's like, okay, well, two things. Luke and Kristen are standing up for her. And Luke's like, but if he's lying about something, I mean, is that what you're saying? And Jasmine's like, no, no, I agree with Kristen. Kristen, I agree with that. But let me tell you something. We know dark side Danny. And Kristen's like, huh? And she says Jasmine's like, I get that Nia wants to protect him, but it's this whole playing naive thing. Like everything's okay and we're calling bullshit.

[Ben Mandelker]

It.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, we can see it. And I've been a part of it. I know dark side Danny. So I'm triggered.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kristen's like, I know. Nia and Danny at their home with their children. And Melissa's like, jasmine, I'm walking away. Oh. So Melissa's big moment there, and she's like, God, these guys are crazy. So Nia's in her room with Danny, and she's like, tucking him in. He's like. And then he's like, good night, Danny. And then Jasmine. Husband's all. She's now worked herself way up now she's like, I don't fucking care if Danny. If Danny, he wants to take a nap. If he's drunk, so be it. Kristen's like, literally every person at this table has been drinking. What's your point? Why can't everyone just fucking come and have dinner and enjoy it? And have fun. And then Jesse's like, you know, you're yelling at nobody, by the way. Well, I haven't said a word in two hours to get it out.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now Zach pulls a Britney. So he pulls Nia into a room, and she's like, what's happening? And he's like, I have to tell you, like, I have to preface this by saying when you walk away, they were like, can we call spade a spade? Can we just say. Not say. Danny's like, oh. Like, he's just saying he's tired or whatever. Like, he's passed out drunk. Okay? Like, yeah, like, he had alcohol and he's sleeping, and he's like, yeah, obviously he's wasted. And he goes, okay, so you're not denying it. She's like, no. He's literally in bed shitfaced. He's like, okay, well, there are several people that are like, your friend, your relationship so perfect, and you play the perfect card.

[Ben Mandelker]

So all of them, probably Brittany, highest of all, which I hate to say, but this is me exacting revenge over the fact that she talked to Janet about what I said. So I guess, unfortunately, I have to tell you what Britney said just to get back at her. God, it feels good to settle old scores. Anyway, she was going on and on about you and, you know, just. You know, just saying these things just, like, not cool. And Sonia's like, well, but, like, just because your life is burning doesn't mean you need to be like, I would like your life to burn too. Like, true in real life, yes, but this is Bravo. Where, unfortunately, that is the way everything goes.

[Ronnie Karam]

They won't be happy until your life is burning up, too.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everyone burns down.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's just gross. I don't get it. I mean, if they had sat at that dinner and Jasmine said, well, I wanted to talk about this when Danny was here, but I'm still bothered that Danny got wasted and treated us like that at the party. Nia, like, do you have any opinions on it or something? She's like, but to just wait and do it all behind her back and then attack her like she's done something is weird. So she's. I like, when Nia got.

[Ben Mandelker]

Goes.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm so heated. She's, like, still smiling with her little pashmina. And she's like, why is everyone. Why don't they say it to my face? And so she's like, okay, let's go. Let's go find them. So now they can. They're walking through this pantry entrance to the kitchen, and they can Hear Jasmine going off still about this. And Britney's like, I mean, I'm sorry, but I can talk about my husband being in rehab. It's starting to really upset me. Like, that's up. That's fucked up the. But her husband's not in rehab. Britney, your life is a disaster. You married a disaster. Okay? It's been 10 years of listening to you and this. Okay, you don't get an Academy Award for marrying the biggest on the cast.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly. And so I. I think what's basically happened is that, like, Jax has been coming down on Britney for, like, two days straight with these horrific texts, and he's made her feel like a person, because that's what he does. And now she's kind of, like, missed. She's redirecting it all into the situation where she's like, I'm not a person. I'm a brave person because I put it all out there. Nia's the person. And it's like, no, no, listen. I think it's shitty that. I think Danny has a problem. And, like, I think it's shitty. They came in here, and I also think it's kind of shitty that he. He binged that tequila in the back pantry, and then he slept through this whole dinner. I was like, what the. And so I don't care if you're tired. Like, like, manage your alcohol and, like, be there with your friends and be there with your wife, you know? And now she has to tend to you, and she can't even enjoy her dinner. I think that's all up. But I think that, like, Brittany being like, no, she has to be as emotionally as. As out there as me. I'm like, no, she doesn't really have to be. You know, like you said, Ronnie is the one who deserves.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, bring Danny out here and yell at him or go into his room and yell at him, because I.

[Ben Mandelker]

And yell at him for, like, Danny, his wife's vacation. Because, like, honestly, how much does that suck? Dania now has to field all these questions for Danny's behavior, and she has to also spend half this dinner tending to him. And also, like, it's. She's clearly uncomfortable about it, and she's. And she. And I guarantee this is not the first time that she's been in this position. So, like, he should be the one getting the grief, but since she's the one who's awake, she's gonna. She's gonna be the one that's gonna get it from Brittany.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they come into the room, and Zach's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, like, just calm down a second. Things are very heightened today, okay? And she's like, you guys can't even talk about a little thing? Even a little thing? She. Okay, well, tell me what you want to talk about. Well, you can't talk about how he's drunk, obviously. And she goes, okay, but he is. He is drunk. He's really drunk. But you wouldn't say it. She's like, yeah, I did. Like, what secret am I keeping? He's shitface. We were all at the wine place when he was downing every glass of. Like, of course he's drunk. What secret? And she's like, well, I'm just so much of. I'm going through so much. And so she's like, okay, so now you have to attack me because you're going through something and. No, no, no, no, no.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wait. Hold on, hold on. On. Hold on, hold on, everyone. Like, yes, Jack. That's all I wanted to say was.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sonia's like, okay, what do you want me to do? And so. It's not fair. I'm going through so much. My husband's rehab, my own friends. I can't even talk. My own friends. Like, I have to act like. She can't even act like her husband's not drunk for one night. No one acted like that, you nutcase. So she's like, I just want her to be genuine. That's it. You don't gotta be perfect in front of us.

[Ben Mandelker]

Us.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, you're okay to have cracks sometimes. Stop thinking like that. That's why your husband's in rehab.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Also, Brittany, you're the one who's, like, giggling at dinner and giggling through all this. If you have. You're obviously harboring these resentments. So who's the one who's really being fake here? So Jesse's like, wow, Michelle and I are the most sane people in this whole house right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, you're not. This doesn't make you more palatable, sir. You're just all trash. My God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that. They're just drunk. You're actually awful. Well, that was the end of the episode. I. I thought it was great. I know you didn't really like it that much. I think it may be divisive for this audience. I haven't seen what the audience reaction has been so far, but I just think it's. I think it's wild.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was very fascinating for me to watch. But either way, it's definitely. You can't say this show is boring at the very least definitely going on on the Valley.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it wasn't boring. All right everybody, well thanks so much for being with us. Our next show is Summer house live in Vegas. So that'll be up on Friday. Hopefully we'll see you guys tomorrow night in Vegas. And then in June we will be in Seattle and Los Angeles to finish out our tour. So go get your ticket links over at watch what crappens.com also our Patreon links. We have a three week road trip video bonus episode coming up. We've got put some gopros up in the car and just talk nonsense for a long time. Three episodes worth.

[Ben Mandelker]

So focuses on nonsense.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, yeah. That's a special event going on on Patreon this month and then starting June 3rd we will be back with Love island recaps over on Patreon. So go join up and we will talk to you guys next time. Bye bye.

[Ben Mandelker]

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