#2855 Summer House 0915: Pumps and Dumps

Summary

Watch What Crappens Podcast Episode Summary: #2855 "Summer House 0915: Pumps and Dumps"

Release Date: May 22, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Platform: Wondery

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Introduction to the Finale

In episode #2855 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the dramatic finale of Bravo's Summer House. The episode focuses on the intense relationships and conflicts that unfolded during the season's concluding moments, particularly spotlighting Lexi and Jesse's tumultuous relationship and its impact on the house dynamics.

Lexi and Jesse: A Relationship in Ruins

The centerpiece of the discussion revolves around Lexi and Jesse's breakup. Ronnie Karam expresses skepticism about the authenticity of Lexi's reasons for ending the relationship, highlighting inconsistencies between on-camera narratives and off-camera realities.

• Ronnie Karam [10:31]:
  "I don't think she's 100% entitled to be like, I'm breaking up with you because I don't trust you. Because I think that, Jesse is a slippery motherfucker, and I'm glad she knows it very quickly."

• Lara Marie Schoenhals [05:00]:
  "We're still at the freedom dinner, which is still my favorite thing of the whole season."

Karam points out that while Lexi claims trust issues with Jesse, the way she manipulates the situation to paint herself as the victim adds layers of complexity to their breakup narrative.

House Dynamics: Suffocation Game

The hosts discuss the metaphorical "suffocating" behaviors exhibited by both Lexi and Jesse, leading to heightened tensions in the house.

• Ronnie Karam [12:03]:
  "They both kind of want to suffocate each other in different ways. And she doesn't like that he's doing all the suffocating because she wants to suffocate him with her, like, friends and family."

This back-and-forth suffocating dynamic underlines the inability of both parties to maintain healthy boundaries, thereby escalating conflicts among other house members.

Support Systems and Alliances

The episode highlights how alliances within the house shift in response to the central drama. Gabby emerges as a voice of reason, criticizing both Lexi and Jesse for their actions.

• Gabby [07:04]:
  "That's why I sent Tiffany in to be me. Remember all those conversations you had with me? It was Tiffany all the time. Don't you understand? That's how we do it."

Liz, another house member, also weighs in, expressing frustration over the lack of genuine connections and support within the house.

West’s Role and Emotional Struggles

West's attempts to mediate and express his feelings are discussed, with Ronnie Karam highlighting his struggles to communicate effectively amidst the chaos.

• Ronnie Karam [16:25]:
  "All of you have had your relationships scrutinized except for Gabby. She's had three years of coasting and talking about nothing personal."

West's emotional turmoil and attempts at bridging gaps are seen as both commendable and indicative of deeper issues within the house’s interpersonal relationships.

Final Confrontations and Resolutions

As the finale progresses, the hosts dissect the final confrontations, including Lexi's grandiose attempts to dramatize her breakup and the eventual cooling of tensions.

• Ronnie Karam [38:30]:
  "So then they're like, whatever. So they start partying and Jesse goes right back to flirting with other girls."

The inability of Lexi and Jesse to find common ground results in a lack of closure, leaving other house members to navigate the aftermath of their fallout.

Lindsay’s New Beginning

A subplot involving Lindsay is also explored, focusing on her becoming a mother and the accompanying personal growth and challenges.

• Lara Marie Schoenhals [50:07]:
  "So Lindsay pours some shots of the milk on the rocks, and Paige goes, 'What.'"

This new chapter in Lindsay's life adds another layer of complexity to the house dynamics, highlighting themes of responsibility and personal change.

Recurring Themes and Host Insights

Throughout the episode, Mandelker and Karam interject their own humorous and critical perspectives, often questioning the motives and actions of the show's participants.

• Lara Marie Schoenhals [42:54]:
  "I'm just going to say yes, he's a douchebag who did everything wrong in this relationship."

Their candid commentary provides listeners with an engaging analysis of the show's events, blending humor with sharp critique.

Conclusion and Future Episodes

The hosts wrap up the episode by teasing future content, including interviews with other Bravo show personalities and exclusive bonus episodes for Patreon supporters.

• Lara Marie Schoenhals [63:34]:
  "Next week, I will be back recapping this with Page Six Virtual Reality Danny and Evan."

This ensures that listeners remain engaged and look forward to continued discussions on Bravo's reality TV offerings.

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Key Takeaways

• Complex Relationships: The finale of Summer House showcases deep-seated trust issues and manipulative behaviors, particularly between Lexi and Jesse.

• House Dynamics: The interplay between different house members highlights the challenges of maintaining genuine relationships amidst ongoing drama.

• Host Commentary: Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam provide insightful and humorous analysis, making the episode both entertaining and informative for listeners.

• Future Content: The podcast promises ongoing coverage of Bravo shows, ensuring fans have continuous content to enjoy and subscribe to.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Ronnie Karam [10:31]:
  "I don't think she's 100% entitled to be like, I'm breaking up with you because I don't trust you."

• Ronnie Karam [12:03]:
  "They both kind of want to suffocate each other in different ways."

• Gabby [07:04]:
  "That's why I sent Tiffany in to be me."

• Lara Marie Schoenhals [50:07]:
  "So Lindsay pours some shots of the milk on the rocks, and Paige goes, 'What.'"

• Lara Marie Schoenhals [42:54]:
  "I'm just going to say yes, he's a douchebag who did everything wrong in this relationship."

• Lara Marie Schoenhals [63:34]:
  "Next week, I will be back recapping this with Page Six Virtual Reality Danny and Evan."

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This summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and humorous exchanges from Watch What Crappens Episode #2855, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of the Summer House finale analysis.

Transcript

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Much well hello and welcome to Watch what's Crapping. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello Benoons.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hi Ronnie.

[Emeril Lagasse]

How's it going?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Good, good. Everybody welcome to the show. It's Summer House and Day. Summer Summer House and Finale.

[Kyle Cook]

And day.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Glad to be here. We have two final shows. Seattle June 12th and Los Angeles June shows on the Mounting Hysteria tour. Get your tickets at. Watch what crappens.com it's also where you find links to our Patreon. This week we've got a three part road trip video bonus episode in Texas. That was a really fun one. Go check it out. Starting in June we will be doing Love island recaps. Patreon exclusive. Join us for that. Also Friday we have an interview with Below Deck Down Under, Serena Chef Serena. That's a really good one. And next week we've got a bunch of special guests While Ben is enjoying Norway. We've got Kempire, Amy Phillips, Ryan Bailey, Lara Shane Hall's from Sup, the boys from Page Six's Virtual Reality and Danny Pellegrino. So join us next week while Ben is living it up in Norway. Baby you Excited. You're ready to go, Ben. It's your last show of the week.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God. Last show. And then I'm gonna hit the fjord. I'm really excited. It's weird. I've never done. It's a. It's a tourist. I've never done a tour before, and I'm going solo. It's just so strange and exciting and I don't know. We'll see. I'm. I will have many tales. I'm sure many of them will probably be uninteresting. I'll be like, I stepped in the puddle. My foot was so wet. Great, great story, Ben. Glad you enjoyed Norway.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

They're not uninteresting to us. My little lovey face.

[Ronnie Karam]

Thank you.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So follow Ben's Instagram and watch where he's going.

[Ronnie Karam]

Where in the world.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Like a TV show. So I'm excited.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. I'll try to post it on the gram. All good content.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Also, you need to. To. You need to do the squirrel picture that you took. You need to post that on your Instagram or the crapin. Instagram.

[Ronnie Karam]

I posted it on. I posted it on the crappin story. Last night. Someone wrote a comment saying, I came here for squirrel content, and I don't see it.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah, I saw that too. That's what I'm saying.

[Ronnie Karam]

So I put it up. It's on our stories.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

You need to show the squirrel.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Maybe we'll have to put it on the grid because by the time this episode airs, the story will have expired. So we'll make sure that that baby squirrel clutching to a power cable is memorialized on our grid.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Okay. Well, that squirrel is clutching to that power line like some of these cast members are clutching to fame. It's the Summer House finale. Lexi and Jesse making a go at the most dramatic storyline that nobody cares about on this show. Well, maybe some people care it.

[Kyle Cook]

I've stopped caring.

[Ronnie Karam]

I feel like I. My. My climate. I. Last week, I was like, this is an amazing episode. I love what's going on here. I was just wrapped up in the drama this week. I was like, okay, I'm done with it.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah, I'm pushing my limit with the Lexi and Jesse thing. You've known each other for five minutes. This is too much, ma' am.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah, it's too much.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's over.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So let's start out. We're still at the freedom dinner, and. Which is still my favorite thing of the whole season.

[Kyle Cook]

Congratulations to me for being a furry.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And Lexi has just said to Sierra, I'm Sorry.

[Kyle Cook]

Like, after everything I've heard, I don't trust you. Like, I'm sorry.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I just don't trust you. And Sierra just gives this look, like, what's your name? Like, who the is this person?

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, do you feel like I've been mean to you?

[Gabby]

No, I think you're just like. I think you're, like, very different. Like, I'm very light, hot, and sometimes, like, you're like. You can be kind of like, let me suss it out. And I love that.

[Kyle Cook]

Like, I.

[Gabby]

How you're like, you know, but, like, I feel like things have, like, hurt all summer. It's like, you guys are, like, taking it too far. It's, like, weird. Okay, like. And I say, this is someone who has a mom and a sister next room, listening in on this conversation. I just think that what you're doing is weird.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah.

[Kyle Cook]

Like, I'm. I'm saying that as someone who, like, talks about, like, sex videos with her.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Mom, someone posted on Reddit something from the 6 to 9 or 6 and 9 podcast what she does with her mom, where they're talking about how they both have sex tapes and, like, how they help each other with their sex tapes and, like, giving each other advice on their sex tapes and stuff. This. This is one odd fucking family, man. Really, really is really weird family. And so now she's blaming Sierra for not being able to bond with her all summer because of what Jesse was saying, which I kind of see what she's saying, because there is Jesse being a douchebag, but there's also Lexi coming in and immediately attaching herself to a man and ignoring the women all summer, which is also happened.

[Ronnie Karam]

So there is time in the day to be with the. The hunk that you're attracted to and also to talk to the people in the house like, you can actually do both.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I will not call Jesse a hunk. I will not give you that.

[Ronnie Karam]

I think he's a hunk. I think he's a hunk. He's a douchebag, but I think he's a hunk.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

No.

[Ronnie Karam]

Give him a hook.

[Kyle Cook]

I won't.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Especially after his high school picture last.

[Ronnie Karam]

Last week that was not. Not a hunk.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

There are some pictures you just shouldn't give to production. Someone had to give that picture to production. Someone thought that was okay and his name was Jesse. Okay, you ruined it, Jesse.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, yeah, but I do. But that being said, I think that Lexi is abdicating a lot of her own personal responsibility in this situation to, like, actually talk with other people in the house. I do think, though, that Jesse does get off on pitting the girls against each other in this case. And I. So I think that sort of both sides are true in this debate.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So Jesse's like, so do you think she wasn't able to bond with you guys because of me? Or, like, what are you saying?

[Kyle Cook]

And she's like, yeah, yeah, I do think that. And Paige is like, I mean, did you actually isolate her? No, but you know when you meet someone.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And Jesse's like, but she's saying it was intentional. And Gabby jumps in with, stop worrying.

[Kyle Cook]

About your perception for a second.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Gabby's just got her martini. She's just, like, making little barbs at everybody.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, yeah, she's over this entire thing. And Sierra's like, I totally get you and Jesse are enamored with each other. But, like, did you make herself fully, fully available to us also?

[Emeril Lagasse]

No.

[Gabby]

That's why I sent Tiffany in to be me. Remember all those conversations you had with me? It was Tiffany all the time. Don't you understand? That's how we do it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sierra's like, well, I think that's, like, what. I think that's what was kind of different between Yalls relationship and me and west relationship, because he made himself available to everyone outside of what we're doing, which is why he was really popular. And you're, like, not popular with the audience, you know?

[Kyle Cook]

Yeah.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

She's like, listen, I had friends here still that I kept up with, and so did West. It wasn't just all about the couple.

[Kyle Cook]

And Lexi's like, you were, like, 100% right? And I was probably, like, not being, like, 100%. Jesse, leave me alone so I can talk to the other girls. So that was my fault. But, like, I connected with him, and I really liked you. Hence why I fought for our relationship, like, for the last month, even after I've been clowned.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah.

[Kyle Cook]

Preach.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Wes is, like, what changed from when you dumped him, like, two weeks ago?

[Gabby]

Well, I'm, like, breaking up with him because I just can't trust him.

[Amanda Batula]

Yeah, the trust is gone.

[Gabby]

Yeah. Like, when my friends are asking, like, who are you dating? And, like, what's going on in your life? And literally embarrassed to say. Tiffany, I are dating you because, like, you've treated me like shit for half.

[Ronnie Karam]

Of our relationship, but, like, half of your relationship is literally, like, three weeks. So, I mean, this is really just a lot for such a short.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah, it's a lot. And I had to remind myself that this is because she's just found out that Jesse told everybody that the reason Lexi broke up with him was because she was pissed off with C about Sierra stuff and got jealous about the US Open, which looked like absolute bullshit because last we saw her break up with him, and she's like, I don't want to be with someone I can't trust. So then he went to the house and was like, well, she broke up with me because of Sierra stuff. And so it looked like a total fucking lie. But at the end of the last episode, I was thinking, it sounds like something Lexi would say. Which we find out at the end of this episode that Lexi did, in fact, say it in a different conversation, but that she was trying to keep that off camera. And Jesse didn't give a shit because she broke up with him, so he put it on camera. So it's all kind of confusing because of what's happened on camera and what's happened off. But I understand she's confronting him over making it sound like her breakup thing was anything other than, I can't trust you. So I have to give her a little grace there until we get to the end and we find out that she did say all this stuff.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't think she's 100% entitled to be like, I'm breaking up with you because I don't trust you. Because I think that Jesse is a slippery motherfucker, and I'm glad she knows it very quickly.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So Brittany didn't say any of the Sierra stuff when she did in fact, say it?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she's, like, a little bit more culpable than she lets on, but I still put most of the blame on Jesse, and I am happy for her. The only person I'm happier for is Paige, who's sitting there like, oh, my.

[Emeril Lagasse]

God, this is kind of, like, the.

[Ronnie Karam]

Best night of all time. This is amazing.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Paige is fucking loving it. And so Jesse's like, oh, I haven't treated you like shit. I mean, yeah, yeah, you have.

[Kyle Cook]

And she's like, but you, like, lie by omission, if not lie fully. So, yeah, it's like a lot of kinds of lying. And you're sneaky and, like, you don't.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Want to be my friends.

[Kyle Cook]

You only want me to yourself because you like to suffocate me.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Okay. Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

And I think he just doesn't want.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

To meet your friends because he's out with you and your parents every single night. Like, do you ever do anything alone? I mean, I even hate standing up for Jesse. They're both annoying. They're just both annoying.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

One of those is the quagmire, because it's like the. We were just talking about the Valley. And so if you get annoyed with one person, in that case, Janet, it's almost like you're kind of sticking up for the other person, in that case, Danny. And I'm not sticking up for Danny. And in this case, I'm not sticking up for Jesse. I'm just saying, Lexi, you are highly annoying. Jesse's a douchebag, and you are also highly annoying. They both have, like, stop.

[Ronnie Karam]

They both kind of want to suffocate each other in different ways. And she doesn't like that he's doing all the suffocating because she wants to suffocate him with her, like, friends and family. And he wants to suffocate her with just him and his smile. So she's like, that's not fair that.

[Gabby]

You only get to suffocate me. I want to suffocate you too.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Lindsay's sitting there. She has this spoon, and she's just making these faces. It's like her short circuiting is, like. Is breaking. It's, like, too much freedom for her to take in right now.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So Wes is trying to stand up for Jesse, and he's like, okay, so you're saying that he wants to hang out with you too much, but, like, he's also suffocating you. Yeah, west, both things can happen. Yes, both things can be true, sir. And Gabby's like, shut up, West.

[Ronnie Karam]

Which is great. West is like. But it contradicts himself. And she goes.

[Emeril Lagasse]

And then Paige is like, no, no, west, speak up. Come on, Speak up.

[Ronnie Karam]

Because I think Paige wants Wes to fall into a trap, because I don't. I've never heard Paige be ever interested in Wes speaking up. Also, can we stop acting like this is a moment of personal growth for Wes? For him? Sing a few sentences at the dinner table. They're like, you can do.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Speak up.

[Ronnie Karam]

Say it.

[Emeril Lagasse]

You're almost there.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Wes is like, in this house, Jesse's relationship with everyone beside you and Emeril have a year's worth of. Of. Of ground. And Lex is like, okay.

[Kyle Cook]

She's like, amazing.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

A year. A whole year. Wow. Wow. You guys have really known each other a long time. And he's like, well, it's longer than a few weeks. And so Gabby's like, oh, West. Oh, West. And he's kind of annoyed with her. He's like, the ad libs with you. Like, can I just talk? And she's like, because he knows his girls more, he gets to say more and gets to run his mouth. And west is like, yeah, like, every. And he's just telling us. But he's like, at this point, everyone has had their relationship scrutinized except for Gabby. She's like, had three years of coasting and talking about nothing personal.

[Ronnie Karam]

So that's because, A, I feel like none of you actually talk to her. And B, she doesn't have a relationship. Like, you can't. You can't fault her. You can't fault her for, like, not opening about her relationship when she has none. Okay? She tried. Remember Danielle cock blocked her. So Lexi is like, yeah, but I can see that.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I can see the side of like, why does this person always get to have a comment about every thing so strongly but never shares anything? Because that's what goes on on the other shows all the time, you know?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, but west does the same thing. Wes. Wes goes and he hooks up with someone, you know, outside the house, and then he slinks back. So I don't know. I just don't want to hear it from West. Anyone else can say, I don't want to hear it from west with Gabby. So, yeah, I'm just going to come up with it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what logic you throw at me. I'm just like, no, I reject it from you, West.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So, yeah, west still sucks, for sure.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Lexi's like, Gabby's right.

[Gabby]

And I would like you to stop stirring the pot, especially in the last weekend. Like, let us try to, like, make friendships finally, like, I'm ready to make.

[Kyle Cook]

An effort in the final weekend. And he's trying to stop it.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

You're trying to guarantee that you'll have a spot next season at the last second after you've blown this storyline.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So then. Then they're like, okay, fine, we're done. So they're all, like, hugging. Kyle hugs Lexi. And then Lexi turns to Wesson's like.

[Gabby]

Maybe shut the up. You talk more than Gabby, so shut the up.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, whoa.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And then.

[Ronnie Karam]

But Sierra is like, no, you can say whatever you want, okay? Because he only talks that much, one on one. Not in a group setting, but in the context of this conversation. He was doing a good job. So, West, I'm gonna give you a compliment. You said a few things at the dinner table, and that ends your storyline for the season.

[Kyle Cook]

And Gabby's like, well, I'm not giving.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Credit for mediocrity, so sure.

[Kyle Cook]

And Paige goes, and don't forget, Carl's free, too.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So they all start laughing. It's like, yeah, well, what I'm hoping for after the freedom dinner is that I'm free from talking about this dinner and break up ever again. Oh. Even though I've talked about it all season, like, I'm the biggest fucking victim in the world and overcame, you know, the greatest hardship of all. Named Lindsay. The pestilence called Lindsay. All right.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, I were definitely not going back to the friendship we had before. Like, she can do her thing, and I can do mine. And, like, yeah.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So now Jesse and Paige are sitting out while the boys are getting ready to go out for boys night.

[Kyle Cook]

And Paige's like, I really hate you, Jesse. I mean, it could have been way worse. Like, you know, I'm always for the girls. And you didn't another girl or, like, cheat on her? Like, technically cheat on. I mean, you toe cheated on her.

[Amanda Batula]

He's like, yeah, I know. I didn't have malicious intent. Like, sorry I was obsessed with you.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Yeah, you just went too quick, too hard. It just was. It was more than we all could handle. And I'm glad you learned your lesson and maybe humiliated yourself along the way.

[Amanda Batula]

And he's like, yeah, I definitely learned my lesson.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Sierra walks by. She's like, what, so you don't like me? Is that what's going on?

[Amanda Batula]

He's like, no, that's not what I said. I said, so glad Sierra and I are friends again. Why? Doesn't understand what that's saying.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah. And it's like, oh, don't touch my arm. Just kidding. Just kidding. Stop flirting with me. Just kidding. Bad joke. Bad joke. So they're laughing, and the guys get ready to go out, and Lexi is.

[Kyle Cook]

Like, oh, my God. Like, I don't even want to sleep in my room because, like, every time I've slept in here, Jesse's like, been in here.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Lindsay calls Turner, and she's like, dinner was great, and that was it. And then Lexi's talking to Gabby, and she's like. She's like.

[Gabby]

It just, like, makes me, like, sad that, like, my summer has been, like, for Jesse and to. To be, like, over at the end of it.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Just, like, it's a bummer.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Gabby's like, yeah, that sucks. But we're gonna get better. We're gonna have such a fun weekend. Apparently, our party's at capacity. It's gonna be the best weekend ever that America is not gonna see because we have to cut away to see Lindsay's updates and Beige's updates at the end of the episode.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Thank God. I loved it. I was better than the whole season. That last scene, I was like, this. This is what I need.

[Kyle Cook]

So Lexi's like, yeah, well, Jesse probably invited his entire, like, sorority.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Which he did, by the way. He actually did. So then it's bedtime. The girls are going to bed and stuff. And Sierra and Paige are talking about their ideal man, and Sierra's like, physical features only. I don't know if I need to hear this, Sierra, because you've been with. With Jesse. No, you haven't been with Jesse. You chose west and Austin. And who was the other one? She liked Corey, too. Didn't she like Corey?

[Ronnie Karam]

I think maybe she had a passing interest in him. I don't remember. I think she's just really into, like, a melting candle kind of looking guy, whether it's taller.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Really leather. Early. Early leathery guy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Emeril Lagasse]

So Paige is like, oh, this is really easy. I like 6, 3 and above, longer hair, in a suit, doesn't sew, lives anywhere but Charleston. Name has more than one syllable. And I'm not in a relationship with him already.

[Kyle Cook]

My. My type is anyone, but Craig.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Doesn'T take me to Australian food and make me kangaroo while I'm trying to break up with him.

[Kyle Cook]

That's my super nice. This isn't a physical trait, but it would be super nice to date a guy that didn't refer to me as poultry.

[Emeril Lagasse]

I would like a guy who doesn't want to make me sit next to a cricut machine for the rest of our relationship and also take care of bees.

[Kyle Cook]

Would also be nice to find a guy who didn't call at or who didn't call. Coke, Adderall, because it's very confusing when I'm going out.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Sierra, question for you. How many times, genuinely, do you think you've been in love?

[Ronnie Karam]

She goes, well, I've only told one person I'm in love with him.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Oh, I told all my boyfriends I was in love with him. But you know what? Looking back, it wasn't love. I just, like, really loved my life, and they just were there. Anyway.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So her tour is starting in 10 days, and she's, you know, been more anxious than excited. So she's mad at herself and she's.

[Kyle Cook]

Gonna, like, try and stop thinking, is Craig okay? Is Craig mad about it? Is Craig dead yet?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I wonder if Craig's dead.

[Kyle Cook]

I wonder if Craig accidentally took that cyanide pillow pill that I left in his vitamins. That Morning. Oh God, should I look at the ring cam?

[Emeril Lagasse]

I hope my plan to train the bees to attack Craig one day actually pans out, because that was a lot of effort to train them like that.

[Kyle Cook]

So that coating all of Craig's underwear in bee pollen works out. It's time for a commercial.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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[Ronnie Karam]

So everyone comes back from a night of partying. Kyle tries to sneak into his bedroom with Amanda. He's making creaking noises.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

That's pretty funny. This is one of those moments where I'm like, you know, we just watched Valley, which is all about oh my God, is he an alcoholic And I brought up Kyle. Please just let Kyle be. Because watching Kyle squeak on one piece of wood and then walk to not squeak on another piece to not wake Amanda up one night was good. It was a good scene.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And west, there was some talk at the end of the episode of sort of like, is this the end? So sort of suggesting maybe the old guard might be retiring from somewhere. How soon? And if that does happen, it's good to see Wes taking on the late night binge role that Kyle has this week. Was not a muffin. There was no muffin man. But west did find Carl's rejected sandwiches by the sandwiches. And brought Carl's soft sandwiches into the bed.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Bedroom. And brought the discarded soft sandwiches into the room. The thing with west is it's not as fun because west isn't a late night bender. He's just a bench bencher. It's like all day with Kyle. Kyle just has to be shit faced. But west is just all day, like, bring him on.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, because Kyle also like fastidiously works on his body. He like jogs. And he's got like. Kyle has like a really good body. But then late at night he's like.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

But I would say west is my goal body.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wes has a nice body, actually. Muscle.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah. I like seeing like someone who's not, you know, like totally skinny and too worked out and also eats. Like, that's nice. It's hot. But it's West. I mean, not West. I'm not saying Wes. I'm just saying, like, that's my ideal body type because the girls talked about it. Okay, leave me alone.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Girl talk.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then it's the morning Emerald. Emerald is on this episode actually, and he has woken up and he has a little boner in his underwear. And he's wearing that kind of underwear that kind of like puts a pocket around your dick so it like accentuates it. But in his case, it just looks like a little bird beak sticking out. I was like, didn't need to see that. But there it is.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And then Gabby's like, yeah, who does those underwear? I have those underwear too. I don't wear them all the time, but I have some like this where they put the seam right down the middle of your wiener and then they. They put the little corner on it. And it's supposed to make your wiener look bigger, I think. But you know, wieners are odd things and they move in different directions. Like your p. Your wiener could be like this big in one minute and this big the next minute. Or hiding inside of You. Or sideways. Like, you don't know what it's going to do. Sometimes it's an L. It's just an L. Like a pig wiener. You never know what it's going to do. And so those underwear don't always work out. Right. And this was an example of that. His wiener was, like, pointing one way and. And then the seam was pointing the other way, and it just looked like they're trying to high five two different people.

[Ronnie Karam]

Every time I've seen those. Those types of underwear styles on, like, a website, like, on, like, an underwear website, I just always feel like they look very beaky. They look very pointy. It doesn't. Doesn't. You don't look at it and be like, whoa, that guy's got a package. It just looks like a strange kind of, like, triangle. Like a weird point. Like a. Yeah, it's just. It's doesn't. At least as I've seen it advertised, it hasn't really.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

It can. But when your wiener is in the right mood, they look great. Great.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, okay.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

It just depends on the mood of your wiener. Like, everything.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Like so much of life. So Gabby, meanwhile, has her own issues. She's like, I slept so hard, my pimple patch creased. And I have to say, the trend of the pimple patches are. It's kind of funny. Like, a girl got on the airplane the other day and she had so many little blue stars all over her face. I'm like, you know, at some point, this is kind of a lateral move, right? Like, this is.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Pimples are better.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like. It's like, you're like, I don't want people to see that I have something. I have blemishes on my face. So I'm just gonna put giant stars on all over my face instead, and I will totally fit in.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Okay, so now it's, like, breakfast time, and Jesse doesn't want to get out of bed. I have to hang out with a girl who dumped me yesterday. Whatever. You invited, like, a whole busload of thoughts over you'll be fine time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Amanda Batula]

He's like, I can't believe how this is gonna end. I mean, you know, I'd rather have. You know, I'd rather. Lexi thinks I'd rather have loved and then lost than never have loved at all. But now that sounds dumb as I just want to hook up. I'd rather be like, hey, you look sexy. Let's, you know.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah. I'm not gonna feel bad for you, Jesse. You dug your own grave with an extremely obnoxious person. So. So now everyone's gathering in the kitchen and eating, and Emeril went to get sandwiches. All that good stuff. And then Amanda. Sandwiches.

[Ronnie Karam]

Just. Yes. Sorry, I was gonna say Jesse sings.

[Amanda Batula]

And he goes, good morning, good morning. It's time to wake up in the morning, my sweet fellow.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Gabby goes, that's a bit much because.

[Amanda Batula]

Yeah, well, it's just what my mom sang to me in every day of my life.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

She explains a lot.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes, it does.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

That explains your inflated sense of self, sir. Okay, so when people tell me, don't blame the mother, watch this scene.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, yeah, Watch singing that song until he's, like, 28. No, let's not. So, yeah, Amanda brings sandwiches to Sarah and Paige in bed. She's like, can I be part of Giggly Squad?

[Gabby]

No.

[Emeril Lagasse]

No more mail, please.

[Ronnie Karam]

Then Lexi goes to check in on Lexi, because I feel like one thing that we see of people are not really talking about is how, like, Lindsay and Gabby are, like, clearly grooming Lexi to be on their own bed.

[Amanda Batula]

Click.

[Ronnie Karam]

They're like, yeah, okay.

[Gabby]

They don't want you to be part of it, so you can join our.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Side of the house.

[Ronnie Karam]

Because I know everyone's, like, down with Lindsay now. I do not think this is a permanent relationship with Paige and Lindsay. I think the ceasefire will end and they will be back at war soon enough.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Oh, I hope not, because I love seeing them as friends. They're so much more fun to watch as friends. But Lexi's in there doing her hair very dramatically. She's like.

[Kyle Cook]

So she's like, are you okay? She's like, I'm just, like, overwhelmed. Because, like, it's not, like a normal situation that you live with someone you dated within three seconds.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Girl, it's one day. And you broke up with them yesterday.

[Kyle Cook]

You could have faked it until today.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I can't with legs anymore. I'm done with. With Lexi. Is Lexi going to be back next year? Yes or no?

[Kyle Cook]

What do you think?

[Ronnie Karam]

I think she will because she has a lot of Instagram followers, and I think Bravo cares about that, so I'm gonna say yes. Yeah. So Lindsay is like. Because she's saying, like, it's really hard because Jesse is, like.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Like, the only person that she really.

[Ronnie Karam]

Became friends with, and so she doesn't. She normally would go running to him with issues, and now she can't. So she just feels really lonely.

[Gabby]

And Lindsay's like, well, maybe just try not to look in his direction at all. Just pretend he doesn't exist, you know?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

He's like the Cheshire cat from Alice in Wonderland. You're not going to escape him. Every time you think you got away, you're just gonna see teeth in front of you. My God. Jesus, here we go again.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now everyone's setting up this party outside which is like death themed. A lot of like grim reapers. It's like scary Halloween ish. Etc. And then guess who shows up? Everyone's favorite passenger on the lir.

[Gabby]

It's Danielle.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

That's Danielle. That bundle of positivity. You know your life is over, right? Lindsay. Here's Danielle and she's like, oh my God. And Jamie's still in the afternoon.

[Ronnie Karam]

As a founder and CEO, I get out of my jammies at 8am every morning no matter what time of year. Founder, CEO.

[Kyle Cook]

By the way, I broke up with.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Jesse and she's like, again.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm a sassy girlfriend. I'm basically like a Miranda and a Samantha all mixed up together. So then Sierra trips downstairs and then everyone like Paige and Sierra cuddle under our comforter on the sofa while everyone's setting things up. And then there are these like tombstones that they can customize for the party. So Danielle is Danielle goes to Lindsay.

[Amanda Batula]

She goes, oh, you know what you can write on your tombstone, Lindsay? Death to your vagina as you know it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Lindsay's like.

[Gabby]

No, thank you. Please don't advertise that on national tv.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Why is Lindsay friends with Danielle? Like, I could see why she was before when Danielle was like kissing her, but all the time. But Danielle's just horrible now. Like, get rid of her. Why are you even inviting her over here? If someone said that to me right before I had a baby girl.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So then Lexi makes a tombstone and.

[Gabby]

It says, here lies Jesse's lies. July 4, August 30.

[Ronnie Karam]

So people are getting dressed up. They're getting makeup and everything. They're getting into like costumes.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I do feel kind of bad for Lexi on this topic because she's trying to make her break up up this season finale thing, which is why she held it to season finale weekend. And she's like trying to make it this big drama and nobody cares. It's like nobody cares.

[Kyle Cook]

Like, okay, well that was a fun dinner. Lexi dump Jesse.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

All right, let's make tombstones like nobody cares. And she's trying to make this tombstone that's like this big burn. And everyone's like, oh, yeah, great, that's funny. Tombstone Lexi.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, but it is kind of worth it because it's really funny to see Jesse's Smile, Turn into the trapezoid. Like, that's kind of my favorite thing. He's like, so then everyone showed. People show up. Sierra, her thing, her scary costume is that she is gonna be basically like. Like, Like a white guy, day trader or. Or someone who works in finance, and he's got cocaine under the nose, blonde hair, etc. And Wes is like, I don't understand what's. I don't get it. She's like, I don't have to explain why it's scary, okay? You know why it's scary, okay? Look outside. Read the New York Times. I'm scary.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So Jesse comes down and says hi. And Lindsay's dressed as a Handmaid's, which is. Which is perfect. From the Handmaid's Tales. I love that. And they're joking.

[Kyle Cook]

Like, Paige is pitting west in the coffin. It's hilarious.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So Danielle's tells Lindsay. So Danielle, Lindsay, and Kyle are sitting there, and Danielle's like, oh, my God, you guys, I love us. This has been, like, the best summer. Look at all the fun times we've had. Like, let's list off my best moments. That was. That was fun. They rolled the clip. That was so much fun, you guys. This has been the best summer. I'm so glad we had another summer where I'm another full cast member. This has been great. Yeah. I'm, like, so glad we're doing this, you guys. Like, it's been amazing being an entire, like, whole full cast member, the whole summer. It's like the time of our lives. Like, these are the best days of our lives.

[Ronnie Karam]

My guys, personally, I can, like, keep doing this. I'm not gonna lie. I'm, like, a freak. I could, like, do this for the next, like, 40 years of my life, you know?

[Amanda Batula]

And Danielle's like, yo. But it kind of feels like an end. It truly does.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, just because you got fired from the show doesn't mean that we are going to quit in solidarity.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I know. Danielle's trying to make everybody's retirement party. Like, girl, you got fired already. What are you even doing here? I'm sure she's trying to create, like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she's trying to create, like, a series finale moment. It's like, no, no, we are going to hold. We're going to. We're riding this train as long as we can, and you don't get to tell us when we're kicked off.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

You're not rewriting history. You're already fired. You may be coming to terms with it today, but it happened a year Ago. So. Bye.

[Amanda Batula]

Yeah, but it kind of just like, feels like the end. It truly does.

[Gabby]

Nope, not the end for me. Baby will party. Not a problem for me.

[Kyle Cook]

We will be doing shots off the baby's belly button next summer.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And Carla, I mean, but you know, like, at a certain point, you gotta just stop picking, pissing in bushes and eating muffins, you know?

[Amanda Batula]

Yeah. But, you know, you kind of have to, like, hang up the cleats and remember, I just want to remind you guys all, I do love us, okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

I love us. And they're like, no.

[Gabby]

What Cleats? Not gonna hang up leads. I'm like, it's on my feet.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Oh, yeah. You like to think there's a new chapter brewing somewhere. Yeah, you're delusional. Like, Lindsay, you're the Lulu if you think this is not an entertainment. You are like Delulo. It's a roll the credits. Roll it is over. Sponsored by Uber Eats. It's over. It's done.

[Amanda Batula]

Could someone bring in Green Day so we could sing that song, you and I, The Best time of our lives. Okay, that's a wrap.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Danielle just trying to pretend that her ending wasn't fucking the balloon twisty animal.

[Ronnie Karam]

Guy at the last part.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Sorry, your ending was already written.

[Ronnie Karam]

Danielle really thinks she's having a, like, full circle moment. Like, look at us. Three of us. Three of the OGs together. To wish us all well and go off to being adults. And they're like, nope, nope, nope, nope. No ending here.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

No. Yeah. So Lindsay's like, I'm going through the.

[Kyle Cook]

Process of going through an identity crisis. Like, what am I going to do for money? Like, what am I going to. Where am I going to live in the summer? Am I going to even leave New York City? Who's Turner?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Is Turner even real?

[Kyle Cook]

I don't know.

[Gabby]

Are there babysitters in the Hamptons? Because if there are, I am back next season. No problem.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah, this will happen.

[Kyle Cook]

I mean, Paige leaves her cat in the apartment. Can I leave a baby in my apartment? I mean, all I need is a ring cam, right?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I don't know.

[Amanda Batula]

Danielle's like, no. Well, it's a beginning for you. And everyone's next chapter looks different. And, you know, for a new chapter to begin, an old one has to end. And this one is ending right now.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So they've hired a scare guy to come. You know, like one of those Knots Landing. Knots Landing? Not Scary Farm.

[Ronnie Karam]

Joan Van Arc to come and scare people.

[Emeril Lagasse]

She's like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Was that the one she was on?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So there's A scary guy coming around to scare people. And Wes is like, is Gabby twerking on this scary guy? And sure enough, they show the guy trying to scare everybody. And Gabby's just like dancing ass up against this guy.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then Jesse is flirting with girls.

[Amanda Batula]

Like, hey, are you guys cousins? Sisters? Nice. Hey, did your mom ever sing Good Morning, Good morning, Good morning to my sweet guy.

[Kyle Cook]

Wow, Jesse's really getting right back into it. He's douching all over 1, 2, 3, 4 blondes, 4 blonde people. And Lexi's like, how does this make me feel?

[Ronnie Karam]

And then the girls are like, oh.

[Emeril Lagasse]

My God, Jesse, do you have like.

[Gabby]

Do you have like two seats to go back to the car, back to the city tomorrow? Because we will literally do anything for this. He.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Oh yeah. He's like, oh, you guys need a ride? You're so pretty. I'd do anything for you. How's this guy? Only 28? He seems like someone's dad every time. Yeah, like in that scene in a couple of weeks ago when he was doing like push ups by the pool, he was trying to like do pool push ups. He has like his like dad bod doing push ups. He's just such a dad. How is he so young?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I really don't, I really don't know. So now Lexi and Jesse are, are talking the kids kitchen and Lexi's like, are you good? And he's like, he's like, yeah, I.

[Amanda Batula]

Don'T even know how to have a not negative conversation with you.

[Ronnie Karam]

And she's like, yeah.

[Amanda Batula]

He's like, I mean, we started the summer so strong, we can end strong.

[Ronnie Karam]

And she goes, well, I just decided.

[Gabby]

I don't plan on having a friendship with you anytime soon.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, what now where did that come from?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I mean, she's trying to have her moment. Like her, her finale is over. Like she's been trying to have this huge finale fight and he's not giving it to her and so she's going to try again in the middle of this party.

[Kyle Cook]

So she's like, okay, well I'm having Tanny, I'm not even going to be friends with you now. I'm breaking up as friends.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

It's like, lexi, give it up, girl. It's just not working. Nobody cares.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, like I support her breaking up with him for sure, 100% because he is like, she can't trust him. But then all of a sudden, now she's going to be like, I'm not going to be friends with you. Is it cuz she Saw him flirting with girls, and she's like, I want to prove to America that I'm not the jealous person that Jesse says I am him. By revoking our friendship because he was talking to other girls.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah, I think she's just trying to have a big finale moment, and he's not giving it to her, so she's just poking. She's like.

[Kyle Cook]

I mean, like, since we broke up, like, five minutes ago, there's been, like, so much deception since five minutes ago, like, right now, that's just not what friendship that I'm looking for. I mean, that's been a lot of short term deception after long term deception.

[Ronnie Karam]

How weird. Again, I'm largely on Lexi's side, but where's the deception? And what other deception happened since I'm.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

No longer on Lexi's side? Lexi's full of shit. Lexi's thirsty, and I'm done with her. I'm done with Jesse, too. I'm not on his side either. I'm choosing no sides in this. They're both annoying. But she's, at this point, she's upping the annoyance factor more than Jesse, at least. Jesse's just trying to, like, move on, you know? And she's like.

[Kyle Cook]

I mean, like, now we're breaking up as friends, so.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I just didn't understand this move unless the only way it makes sense is what you said. Like, she's just trying to have a reality show moment. But I'm like, like, why are you. Like, I don't understand why I had to get to this point, really. It's just such a stupid relationship in the first place. And she. He's like.

[Amanda Batula]

I mean, the way we broke up, it was so peaceful and so amicable. Like, I would have loved to have continued that energy.

[Gabby]

And she's like, I did continue the energy. And then you got the house involved. I didn't get the house involved. I only got Tiffany and my mom and my dad involved.

[Kyle Cook]

Right, Mom.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Her mom's under the counter. Sick. You're doing great, honey. Yeah. He's like, I didn't want to make it the house involved. Yes, you did. You. Yes, you did, Jesse. Okay, none of. None of Lexi's being annoying makes you less of a douche. Okay. Yes, you did do it. And he's like, well, I went up to my room to make sure I didn't say anything. You waited until everyone came to your room, and then you told them all Jesse.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, exactly.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And he's. He's like, yeah. And, I mean, I apologize for slipping up and saying one little thing to Sierra. One little thing.

[Kyle Cook]

Oh, yeah.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Lexi blames our whole breakup on you.

[Ronnie Karam]

One little thing. I mean, aside from the show sucking, I was honest. So then Lexi. Then we find out another small crink, crinkle, crinkle in this cookie, which is Lexi says, well, that's not based on.

[Gabby]

Facts because you didn't tell again the.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Other half the story.

[Gabby]

And that's not fair because this past weekend, I said it would have been nice to ask me the US Open because you knew I was doing nothing on Monday, and it was disheartening. And I just don't want to keep having to teach you.

[Ronnie Karam]

So he invited Sierra to the US Open instead of Lexi. What do you think about that? I kind of think that, like, if you're in a tenuous place with your girlfriend, I think you do invite your girlfriend to the US Open before you invite Sierra. Especially if Sierra is at, like, some of the heart of the issues.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah. But I think it's also proving what he said was true. That she said. Because he said she was mad that he went to the US Open with Sierra, and she's like, why are you inviting Sierra? Like, you're mad at her, and now all of a sudden you're like, best friends with her. Like, one minute you don't like her, and now you're suddenly cool with her. Like, I'm not cool with that after how she treated me and Wes this whole summer, you're going to the US Open with her. So now I believe that she did say that, but I believe it was in the context of, like, you know, I wanted to go to the US Open, and instead you take Sierra, who you don't even like, supposedly and who's been mean to me and Lex or West this whole summer, and you take her instead of me to the US Open. So I think at least lends credence to him saying that she said all of that stuff. But it puts it in the context of she actually wanted to go and he ditched her for Ciara. So I would say that she kind of is getting caught here. But also she has right to be pissed that he took. Yeah, I think she shook Sierra into the bus open instead of her.

[Ronnie Karam]

And again, I think what I said in our last episode, I forget what I said. I said it like, I said it, I think nicely. And now I don't remember how succinctly and cleanly I said it, but I think, like, no doubt she brought up Sierra, but I don't know if it was as malicious as Jesse presented it to the rest of the housemates as, like. And. And so I think for sure, if she's like, hello, I'm your girlfriend. And I just said, I'm uncomfortable, like, how much you've been flirting with Sierra. And then like, I want to go to the US Open. This is a cool thing. And then you don't invite me. Invite Sierra instead. Like, what the. And then like, you guys are having issues and. But there's no issues with me, so why aren't you inviting me?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Right? But then she turns around in the whole argument, she's like, I never brought up Sierra. I never said any of that stuff. Which now it's like, like, well, she.

[Ronnie Karam]

Said in the breakup, she didn't bring it up as reason why.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Well, not breakup scene, but.

[Ronnie Karam]

But clearly it was part of the picture. I don't know. Stupid.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So stupid. It's so stupid.

[Ronnie Karam]

Trying to have to, like, get into their minds what they really said and what they really meant and what they each heard from each other is really.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

For the 100 time, I'm just going to say yes, He's a douchebag who did everything wrong in this relationship. And she's so. And annoying. And coming for Ciara on and off camera in ways that are gross that she's not fully living up. She's not fully admitting to 100% commercials. Here comes one right now.

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[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

It's kind of like when you give yourself your own nickname and you try to, like, get other people to do it.

[Misha Brown]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

So she's like. He's so. She. He's like.

[Amanda Batula]

He's like. But that, like, opens up the whole relationship.

[Gabby]

Well, we were trying to, like, pit me and the girls against each other. Like, you've been unintentionally unintentionally doing all summer. I'm like, I'm a girls girls. Which is why I was so supportive of another girl going to the US Open. I'm such a girls girl.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Have we heard Lexi ask one of the other girls about how they're doing?

[Ronnie Karam]

No.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Have we heard Lexi ever say to Paige, how are you and Craig? Or have we ever heard her say to Sierra, how. How is it feeling with you in West? Or have we ever heard her saying to. To Amanda, what's up with you and Kyle? You guys doing okay? I don't think we've ever heard it. We've seen Lexi kind of group situations, too, talking about Jesse to the other girls. But I don't. I wouldn't say Lexi's the biggest girls girl, like, running around to check on the other girls.

[Ronnie Karam]

And let me. Let me enter something else in evidence for all the talk about, like, you prevented me from getting to know the other girls. And as much as she says she's a girls girl. Okay. By the way, just because you hang out with, like, Tiffany and your mom all the time does not make you a girls girl. Just means you're, like, very into your family. Like, all the stories we hear of off camera are, oh, like, Wes saying, oh, I went out with Jesse and Lexi. Oh, oh, Jesse's mad because Lexi and Wes were dancing and Lexi propped up Wes like, like, clearly there's room for other people to hang out with Lexi. It's largely west. But the point is, all the stories of Lexi hanging out with people outside of Jesse seem to be just the other guys. And so when she says she's a girl's girl, I don't know. Because all the stories are not about how she has reached out and hung out with other girls. So just been west and other men.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah. So Jesse's like, well, I encouraged you to hang out with the girls. You know, you could have done that. Like, you're calling. You're going after my character and saying, I smothered you.

[Kyle Cook]

And she's like, you're coming after my character all summer. You are like, you're saying, I'm jealous, like, all summer.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Which is true. She's got a point. And he's like, well, we're on a reality show. I'm just talking about my feelings. Like, sorry, you know, watch the show back and. And you'll see how much I cared. And she.

[Kyle Cook]

You watch the show back and you'll see how much lip liner I wear.

[Ronnie Karam]

But that being said, she has escalated like this from A. From a relationship breakup to a friendship breakup after she saw Jesse talking to other girls.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then she's like, I can't believe.

[Gabby]

You would say I'm a jealous person.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then they're like, whatever. So they start partying and Jesse goes right back to flirting with other girls. And I'm not saying it's okay that he's footing with other girls because it is kind of disrespectful and it is passive aggressive. But he's right back. He's. He's right into the mix there, flirting with other girls. And he brings him inside and Sierra does this whole thing where she like, sweeps them out. She's like, I'm gonna sweep out the mess with her little broom.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Cuz he's flirting with one girl really hard. And she's like, okay, yeah, this girl is really a girl's girl. Just kidding. She's a. And I'm getting her out of my house. It's not cool that he's flirting with this girl right in front of Jesse. So she stands up for je. For Lexi and gets the girls out. And then Amanda's like, oh, my God.

[Kyle Cook]

If I saw him flirting with girls.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I would be really pissed.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Because Amanda's now lying down in a coffin and Paige is like, as much.

[Emeril Lagasse]

As I love everyone, I just want you guys to know I would never.

[Ronnie Karam]

Survive without you two.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Although if I had to choose one, it's Sierra. Sorry, Amanda. And Amanda's like, oh, that's okay. Kyle said he doesn't want me to press in the fall and the winter, But I'm like, I feel like I'm depressed when I'm without you guys.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I don't know what I'm gonna do without you guys.

[Kyle Cook]

Well, you're gonna go home and you are going to marinate in your decisions. His name is Kyle. Look at him over there.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

He's like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Pages.

[Emeril Lagasse]

You know what we should actually do is a FaceTime call, like, once a week so we can gossip and catch up. I just love you guys so much. By the way, I just want you to know that I'm unavailable. Available for a FaceTime call until next summer. Okay, bye.

[Kyle Cook]

Please don't call me.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So then the screens all turn off and everybody goes to bed. And Lindsay's like.

[Kyle Cook]

I mean, usually I'm like, thank God this summer is over. Oh, my God.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Carl's balls are.

[Kyle Cook]

Must be, like, sweating so bad because his pants are so tight. But this is the first summer, like, I'm actually, like, sad to go home.

[Gabby]

This was like my little bubble of happiness before gets real. And, like, shit's getting real now. Wait a second. That wasn't my goodbye speech. No, no, don't turn off the cameras.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

No.

[Kyle Cook]

Stop.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yells like, told you. Roll the credit. Roll the credit.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's over. Get the hook. Get the hook.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I made a tombstone. Everybody. Lindsay's TV career.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then the last screen goes off, which is Lindsay's face, you know, because they always do that at the end of every season. They shut down all the security cameras. But now, three months later, December 5th, 8:02pm Lindsay's heading into the hospital for.

[Gabby]

The labor and delivery department. Where's the Marshall signage? I said, that's a hospital had to put up. It's part of my influencing deal.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I felt bad for her because it was sad watching her go to the hospital all alone. Like, she gets off the elevator and she just, like, looks like she doesn't know which way to go. I mean, I need someone there with you being like, here we go, honey. You know, sit in this wheelchair. Here's your McDonald's.

[Emeril Lagasse]

I didn't.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, you're right. You know, I didn't feel bad for her because she does everything. Like, Lindsay's sort of evolved into this person who's like, I can do anything by myself. I don't care. I'll go to the hospital behind, you.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Know, I mean, I'm like, you know, But I would be like, wait, no one McDonald's.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, I feel like you get.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

McDonald's when you go have a baby, right? Is that just in my head? Someone brings you McDonald's and tells you everything's going to be okay and put you in a wheelchair, even though you don't want to be, and calls the ambulance even if you don't need one. You know, it's.

[Kyle Cook]

What? Come on.

[Ronnie Karam]

If I knew there was free McDonald's involved with getting pregnant, I would have found a way to turn myself into arnold Schwarzenegger and Jr. Like, 10 years ago.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

You can do it now. It's 20, 25, babe. I support.

[Ronnie Karam]

Give me that free McDonald' McDonald's. Okay.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Just a biatch. Just.

[Amanda Batula]

Yeah.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

She goes to the hospital and she has her baby. And so she.

[Kyle Cook]

We see her with her little baby and she's like. I mean, you know, when your parents are like, I've never felt a love. Or, you know, when parents say generally that, you know, they've never felt, like, love, like a baby, like, my baby is so cute. It's like, true. Other parents are stupid about, like, My baby's really cute. My baby was born asking for a ros.

[Gabby]

I was so proud because my baby came out of the womb and was like, 2 for 1 at Marshalls. Best deal in town. I was like, oh, my God. So proud that it came out with an endorsement.

[Kyle Cook]

I would just like to announce my baby is a Max and Eastman.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now, Monday, December 30th. So Lindsay gets all of three seconds of, like, just had a baby. Sorry. Monday, December 30th. Paige Desorabo and Craig Conover have called it quits after three years of dating.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Paige made the announcement on an episode.

[Ronnie Karam]

Of Giggly Squad, where she said she and Craig decided to no longer be together.

[Emeril Lagasse]

And then all of the listeners could.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hear the sound of two lips hitting each ear as she grinned proudly and happily.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

January 21, 2025, Lindsay's apartment. So Lindsay's picking up baby toy. She's in mom life, life. And Paige comes up like, your fabulous auntie. You know, she's like, in some, like.

[Kyle Cook]

I'm a single girl in the city. And Lindsay's like, I just got barf out of my hair. And please come in.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Yeah, Well, I brought you. I brought gifts for the blessed child.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's basically a Giggly Squad book.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Enjoy.

[Kyle Cook]

So one is a medic alert bracelet that she can press, and I will.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Come pick her up whenever.

[Kyle Cook]

You're making her absolutely crazy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Lindsay's like, do you want to peek.

[Gabby]

In to look at the baby? You want to peek in?

[Emeril Lagasse]

Can I peek in?

[Gabby]

Yeah, let's peek in.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they look in, and Paige is.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Like, oh, she's perfect. Okay, should we talk about my stuff now?

[Gabby]

Okay.

[Kyle Cook]

It's amazing that you gave birth to someone that has less wrinkles than you, because babies are usually.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Did you poop when you gave birth or were you still wearing your Depends?

[Kyle Cook]

I brought Jenna a blanket that says, my mom is Methuselah umbrella. So that's really sweet wrapper, like a little burrito.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So I love that Danielle wasn't here too.

[Ronnie Karam]

That is funny that Daniel was not there. Yeah.

[Emeril Lagasse]

I have so many things to say.

[Gabby]

I have so many questions.

[Emeril Lagasse]

I have so many answers.

[Gabby]

I have so many.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Oh, I don't really know where to go from there.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Amanda shows up, and you.

[Gabby]

Want to take a peek at the baby. You want to pick at the baby. You want to take a peek at the baby.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So Amanda goes in, she's crying, and.

[Kyle Cook]

Paige is like, oh, my God. Why are you crying? You're so dramatic. Check. I'm just thinking, like, Kyle has 500 million of those inside of him at any given time.

[Ronnie Karam]

I also like that when Amanda looks at the baby, when she's crying, they're playing all this, like, nice soft music. The producers are like, okay, well, we got no emotional response from Paige, who just said, that's nice.

[Kyle Cook]

Thanks for having me over. Anything new? Your hair looks like shit. Oh, you had a baby.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Oh, wow.

[Kyle Cook]

Let me look at it. Gross. Okay, can we go to the other room where the baby's not?

[Emeril Lagasse]

That looks like one of the sandwiches Emerald got us for breakfast.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Lindsay's like.

[Gabby]

It's like a roundhouse. I'm either, like, feeding Gemma or bumping or burping. Like, literally just do that over and.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Over and over again.

[Gabby]

It's like Groundhog Day. You just, like, feeding Gemma or, like.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Bumping or burping her. It's like, oh, God, she's in a loop again.

[Gabby]

Okay, we get it.

[Emeril Lagasse]

You're a mom. Groundhog Day. I broke up with someone.

[Kyle Cook]

All I'm doing is basically, like, waiting for this thing to throw up or cry or complain about something.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Something.

[Kyle Cook]

Or blame me for something or fix something in its life. It's basically like a baby version of Carl.

[Ronnie Karam]

Pretty much. So then she's like, thank God for dinner.

[Gabby]

He's, like, incredible. You guys, the thing is that, like, with this man, like, he's, like, the best guy you could be in this situation with, mainly because he's not there. And that's, like, so nice for me. I really love that. But, like, one conflict is that, like, he's very private and I'm, like, public. Like, I'm famous. And he's like, like Danielle, like, not famous or loved.

[Emeril Lagasse]

So, like, it's weird.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah. She's basically saying it's really hard because she's public and he's so private. And so her being public gets on his nerve. On his nerves. But his being private is really getting on her nerves because, you know, she's.

[Kyle Cook]

Like, can we just post this for the gram?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And he's like, no, but can you.

[Kyle Cook]

Come to the hospital with me? Because, like, you. You know, I mean, you'll be on camera, but still, it's no.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Like, when I said, no, I. Absolutely. But no. And she's like, gross. Like, how am I supposed to profit off person if I can't have them on my Instagram? Like, I didn't really think this one through.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, exactly. Like, I have a stitch fix box. I'm trying to land here. So, yeah.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

How am I going to get people to jump from behind a Bush to take our pictures. If this man won't propose to me on camera, like, what the hell?

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Lindsay puts on the. The pumping machine with, like, the things and everything, and Paige is like, I love this.

[Emeril Lagasse]

It's so Sex in the city. It's, like, amazing.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wow.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Okay, now is it my turn? Okay, so I'm great.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Lindsay putting on her pumps to have a conversation with the girls was cracking me up. I love that.

[Kyle Cook]

It's like, all right, girls, here I am. I'm bumming. They just pull and pull. It really hurts. Okay, go ahead. Don't. Don't mind me, guys.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Paige goes, wow.

[Kyle Cook]

Don't mind us.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Well, anyway, I'm really great. Honestly. I feel bad that I feel good. Like, I feel like I made, like, the right decision. Like, what made me feel like the right decision was that, like, literally, like. Like, two days later, my dad called me and was like, I want to let you know that I feel like your personality's back. And I was like, dad, my personality has always been the same. You're the one who left me. God. And then he's like, no, I, like, didn't realize, like, now, but, like, you're, like, so happy, and I just feel like I might got my daughter back. And I was like, I know. It's like, now you don't have to hear me talk about cricut machines and bees anymore. Right? It's so much better. God, Craig, am I right, dad?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And Amanda's like, yeah.

[Kyle Cook]

I felt like there was something so different about you this summer.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Can I just say, I thought this was Paige's best summer.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Summer.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I thought she had a great summer.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Emeril Lagasse]

So Paige is like, I was different. And I don't think I realized how different I was until we were out of the house, and I was like, ew, I had to eat kangaroo this summer. I'm terrible.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I'm wondering if it was her favorite. I'm wondering if it was my. My favorite Paige summer because she had kind of decided to break up with Craig, so maybe her personality was already changing then. But, I mean, I thought she had a great summer. So she's like, yeah.

[Kyle Cook]

And then I was, like, having a panic attack, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm going on medicine. And I called my therapist, and I was like, it was, like, a lot. And then I was like, am I being dramatic? Oh, my God. Can we try the breast milk, by the way? I want to. I want to taste what comes out of Lindsay. Like, does your milk come out expired just because you're old.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Does it just taste like Italian subs?

[Kyle Cook]

Does milk come out of there or is it already cheese?

[Emeril Lagasse]

How much of this tastes like Werther's Original?

[Ronnie Karam]

So. So Lindsay, like, pours some shots of the milk on. On the rocks, and Paige goes, what.

[Emeril Lagasse]

If I love it? Is this crazy? Is it weird that if I. That I love your breast milk more than Craig? Would that be weird if that happened?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Oh, my God.

[Kyle Cook]

I want to marry your breast milk. Don't tell Craig.

[Emeril Lagasse]

It's so good. Like, literally, I'm obsessed with your breast milk, Lindsay. He's like, really?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So now they talk about the breakup, and she says, okay, so I was all nervous with Craig, and the two.

[Kyle Cook]

Are this and that.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So then in November, he comes over for Thanksgiving, and he was like, don't you think about us hosting holidays like this for our kids and one day we're going to do this?

[Kyle Cook]

And I was like, sure, yeah. But then I really thought about it, and I was like, ew. Tiny little Craigs running around in plaid, you know, Republican congressman hair. And I thought, no, no, I don't want this. I really don't.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Like, I'm kind of into fashion, and he's into, like, drawing anchors onto pillows, and I don't know if that really works for my brand. So then he's like, I'm gonna come to New York in the middle of December. Like, let's have a conversation. I'm like, Absolutely. 1000%. And we're like, while we're having this conversation, my apartment. He says to me, I really wish you didn't do this before you saw the ring.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Lindsay's like.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Yeah. And so finally says that in my head, I'm like, this is why we're breaking up, because I don't know if you're lying right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

And, you know, Lexi somewhere was like, that was my storyline. How could you do this to me? Trust issues.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah. But you know what? Like, we knew Craig was full of. This was so vindicating, finally hearing the rest of this story, because Craig is just such a liar.

[Kyle Cook]

Like, oh, she did that after she bought. After I bought the ring.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Like, she made me buy a ring.

[Kyle Cook]

And she picked it out and everything.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And then she dumped me. It's so full of Craig, of course. And Paige says, yeah. He says that he had it for a whole year. And Lindsay's like, I want to see it.

[Kyle Cook]

And she goes, it doesn't exist, Lindsay. We will never see the ring.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Did he ever post the ring on Instagram?

[Ronnie Karam]

It doesn't matter. Even if he does post the ring, there's no guarantee that that's the ring or even a ring that he owns and not just some image he got off of Google.

[Emeril Lagasse]

So Paige is, like, two weeks after we broke up, no one knew. So I put it out on the podcast so I don't hear from him. And I felt like it. I was very respectful, disrespectful on the podcast. I. You know, I was just like, hey, everyone, I broke up from Craig. Hold on one second, Hannah. I just have to, like, laugh into this. Into this pillow right now. Oh, it's Craig's pillow. That makes me actually laugh more. Is this awkward? Anyway, so we break up, and I was very respectful, and then I was like, look, I don't want anyone coming for him. But then all of a sudden, all these rumors come out that Paige cheated on Craig and that's why they broke up and all this stuff. So I sent him a text, and I said, I'm getting annihilated. Can you clear it up? And he goes, I don't feel comfortable saying anything at this time.

[Kyle Cook]

And that's when he was dead to me.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And so she's like, yeah, as a girlfriend, I defended the fuck out of this guy. I fought people for him. Like, I've lied through my teeth for him. And after he refused to stand up for me, I said, you're dead to me, you know? So Amanda's like, well, I sent three hearts to Craig.

[Kyle Cook]

And Kyle even texted Craig and said, how's the spritz? But Craig did not respond.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Like, are you kidding me? Did not respond to Kyle Cook and his drunken rambling late at night. All right, that is so rude, by the way.

[Amanda Batula]

I want to know what.

[Ronnie Karam]

I want to know what Paige lied about on behalf of Craig. I want to get to the bottom of that, too.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

The wedding thing, him not getting kicked out of Amanda and Kyle's wedding was a big one where they all lied for him. When he went and got in a fight with somebody because he was trying to do coke in the inside bathroom, and they would only let him use the outside bathroom. And see, I know I am. And then he ended up getting kicked out. She said that was a lie.

[Ronnie Karam]

There we go. That's good.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

What else?

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't know.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

I'm sure we could think of some if we really tried, but I think that's the biggest one that I can think.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's a good one. That's a big.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

And then just a lot of his druggie antics that he was doing where she Was like, trying to repair his reputation up left and right, you know.

[Ronnie Karam]

Especially in Winter House. Yep.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Paige is like. Like, you know what's crazy? Like, obviously, we're all in our 30s, and the number one thing I've learned is, like, it's not that my life is better or worse than what I imagined to be. It's just. It's just. It's just not what I imagined to be. But at the same time, I also feel like it's not what we pictured, but it's like, also like, it's way better. And then Lindsay goes, this cracked me up.

[Gabby]

Lindsay goes, hi, love us.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm like, you just took Danielle's moment and made it like, yeah, like, I'm not gonna.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Yeah, I'll show you who over. Just how Paige said it.

[Kyle Cook]

She's like, I mean, look around at all of us. None of our lives turned out how we wanted.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Right?

[Kyle Cook]

I mean, Lindsay's an old person having a baby with a man who's not here. Amanda's with a disgusting old person who.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Decided to be a dj.

[Kyle Cook]

I'm fabulous and rich now, but, you know, it's better, right?

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

They're like, oh, yeah.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Sitting here, reflecting. Now that we're all on our 30s, in the case of Lindsay, or 130s, our lives are different, but they're good.

[Kyle Cook]

I mean, look, we could be here next year. God knows if Lindsay will even still be here. But, I mean, it's good, right?

[Emeril Lagasse]

No one expected this. You know, in the case of Lindsay, she thought she'd still be sitting around listening to her stories on the radio, but now we have television and Internet.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's.

[Emeril Lagasse]

It's exciting for her.

[Kyle Cook]

I mean, guys, we never thought we'd see a medical miracle, like someone older.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Than God being able to have a.

[Kyle Cook]

Baby, but we did it.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

So that was great.

[Kyle Cook]

Lindsay, are you going to tell your baby about the big bang? You were there for it.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Lindsay, can you show us the flapper dress that you got in 1926?

[Kyle Cook]

Lindsay, Gemma, your mother actually knew the Great Gatsby.

[Emeril Lagasse]

Your mother. Is Daisy there? I sound all right.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Well, that brings us to the end of this season of Summer House. Next week, I will be back recapping this with page 6 virtual reality Danny and Evan. So join us for that. And it'll be a two part reunion. So Ben will be here to close it out. And tomorrow is our interview with Below Deck Down Under, Chef Serena. So check that out. There's some good tea in there. And we will be back. I'll be back. Next week Ben will be back in two. Haven't. Amazing trip, Ben.

[Ronnie Karam]

Thank you so much.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

We love you, buddy.

[Ronnie Karam]

See you on the other side.

[Lara Marie Schoenhals]

Bye.

[Ronnie Karam]

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