#2860 Love Hotel 0105 Part Two: Santa’s Back in Town w/ Guest Amy Phillips

Summary

Podcast Summary: Watch What Crappens Episode #2860 - "Love Hotel 0105 Part Two: Santa’s Back in Town w/ Guest Amy Phillips"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Watch What Crappens
• Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
• Guest: Amy Phillips
• Episode: #2860 - "Love Hotel 0105 Part Two: Santa’s Back in Town"
• Release Date: May 26, 2025

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Introduction to "Love Hotel" Recap

In Episode #2860 of "Watch What Crappens," hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam, joined by guest Amy Phillips, delve into the latest twists and turns of the Bravo reality series "Love Hotel." This two-part recap focuses on the tumultuous relationships and dramatic events unfolding in "Love Hotel," offering listeners a blend of insightful analysis and comedic commentary.

Key Plot Points and Character Dynamics

1. Shannon’s Relationship Drama

The episode kicks off with a focus on Shannon’s decision-making process regarding her suitors. Ben and Amy discuss Shannon's dilemma in choosing between Wally and Ralph, highlighting the intense emotions and strategic maneuvers at play.

• Notable Quote:
  Ben Mandelker: "She has to pick Wally. She has to pick Wally." (04:04)

2. Musical Choices and Production Quality

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the show's use of "White Lotus" music, which Ben finds increasingly bizarre.

• Notable Quote:
  Ben Mandelker: "The music is like, oh, like you hear like monkey sounds. But now they're getting too crazy with their synthesizer." (05:06)

Amy expresses confusion over not watching "White Lotus," adding her own humorous take on the sound effects.

3. Luann’s Tactics and Interpersonal Conflicts

Luann emerges as a central figure with her assertive approach to securing her suitor, Mitch. Ben and Amy dissect her interactions, noting her readiness to engage in drama to maintain her position.

• Notable Quote:
  Ben Mandelker: "She’s ready to smack her." (07:05)

Amy praises Luann’s ability to dominate conversations and relationships, emphasizing her role in stirring the pot.

4. Ashley and Calvin’s Relationship Struggles

Ashley’s interactions with Calvin, a 30-year-old boxer and chef, become a focal point as their differing desires regarding children cause friction.

• Notable Quote:
  Ben Mandelker: "I don't believe you, sir." (26:05)

Amy characterizes Calvin as a "TV fuck boy," analyzing his laid-back attitude towards serious commitments.

5. Theo’s Unsettling Personality

Theo, a dentist and surgeon, introduces a darker element to the show. His background and unsettling demeanor raise red flags among the hosts.

• Notable Quote:
  Ben Mandelker: "Say no to Theo." (24:58)

Ben and Amy discuss Theo’s creepy confessionals and his past marriage, questioning his suitability as a partner.

Humorous Interludes and Host Interactions

Throughout the episode, Ben and Amy infuse humor into their analysis, often mimicking characters and exaggerating scenarios for comedic effect.

• Notable Quote:
  Amy Phillips: "She goes, oh, Jesus Christ. I'm going to the bathroom." (16:51)

Their playful banter about character behaviors and production choices adds an engaging layer to the recap, making it entertaining for listeners.

Guest Insights with Amy Phillips

Amy Phillips brings her unique perspective to the discussion, offering thoughtful critiques and humorous observations about the characters and plot developments.

• Notable Quote:
  Amy Phillips: "She talks like she is speaking like English is not her first language." (16:12)

Amy’s ability to mimic and analyze character motivations provides depth to the conversation, making the recap both informative and amusing.

Final Episodes and Future Implications

As the episode wraps up, Ben and Amy speculate on future developments in "Love Hotel," particularly focusing on the potential outcomes for the remaining contestants.

• Notable Quote:
  Ben Mandelker: "I'm used to bachelor. That shit's all fake. So I don't care that it's fake." (39:26)

They discuss the authenticity of relationships portrayed on reality TV, pondering the genuine emotions behind scripted interactions.

Conclusion and Reflections

The episode concludes with reflections on the show's casting choices and the dynamics between long-standing and new contestants. Ben and Amy commend the casting flexibility, highlighting how new additions like Ashley have revitalized the show's energy.

• Notable Quote:
  Amy Phillips: "I love it too. I love her." (39:43)

Their final thoughts encapsulate the ongoing appeal of "Love Hotel," emphasizing its ability to blend drama, romance, and humor seamlessly.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• [04:04] Ben Mandelker: "She has to pick Wally. She has to pick Wally."
• [05:06] Ben Mandelker: "The music is like, oh, like you hear like monkey sounds. But now they're getting too crazy with their synthesizer."
• [07:05] Ben Mandelker: "She’s ready to smack her."
• [16:51] Amy Phillips: "She goes, oh, Jesus Christ. I'm going to the bathroom."
• [24:58] Ben Mandelker: "Say no to Theo."
• [26:05] Ben Mandelker: "I don't believe you, sir."
• [39:26] Ben Mandelker: "I'm used to bachelor. That shit's all fake. So I don't care that it's fake."
• [39:43] Amy Phillips: "I love it too. I love her."

Final Thoughts

Episode #2860 of "Watch What Crappens" offers a comprehensive and entertaining recap of "Love Hotel," blending sharp analysis with humor. Hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam, alongside guest Amy Phillips, provide listeners with insightful commentary on character dynamics, plot twists, and the overarching themes of the show. Whether you're a die-hard Bravo fan or new to the series, this episode delivers an engaging overview that captures the essence of "Love Hotel."

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[Ronnie Karam]

Guess what happens when there's so much.

[Ben Mandelker]

That happens? Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Happens. This is is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one, guys. It's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. So this is where Shannon's going. Oh, my God. She has to pick Wally. She has to pick Wally. Please pick Wally. That was crazy.

[Amy Phillips]

That was crazy. That was like, is this a presidential election? Like, what is happening? What is happening?

[Ben Mandelker]

Ohio's in.

[Amy Phillips]

Ohio's in Kalamazoo. That was amazing though. I did love it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm with her. So, so she's telling Wale, you know, you know, you want children in 30 days. And I don't know if I can do that. He's like, wait a minute. But you know, you know, Ralph, you're just so old and I, I don't know. I can't tell if you just farted or not. Let's get married. And Wally's like, what the fuck, man? How is she dumping? Yeah. So she dumps Wale and then we get the White Lotus music, which is crazy. It's getting crazier every week at this point. It's just like, whoop, whoop, whoop.

[Amy Phillips]

I don't watch White Lotus. I'm sorry. So I didn't get it. I didn't get it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So the music is like, oh, like you hear like monkey sounds. But now they're getting too crazy with their synthesizer where now it's just going like, ooey, oy oy, oi, oi. If you're gonna rip off the music, do it right, you guys. They're like, what sound does a penguin make? Put it in there. So a white lotus undulating is in the notes. So Ashley and Ralph are hugging, and he's into it, you know? He kisses her hand like.

[Amy Phillips]

I know. Beauty and the bee. So growly. It's like, not a petting zoo. Lord. Insane.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Ashley's like, well, I'm working on my daddy issues, and I'm trying not to go down the same path, but Ralph does have a different accent than Michael, so I'm learning. They get an extra key. Who's gonna get the extra key? So the women huddle to talk about it, and Shannon's like, oh, my God. I just. I. I feel horrible. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

[Amy Phillips]

Well, except Earl and Earl.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll hurt Earl's feelings. He'll be back.

[Amy Phillips]

Yes. I'm gonna get another Earl, a younger Earl. Just because I think Earl will pass soon and it will be better for him if he has another man that's like him, just younger. It'll be great.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't want to be too shocked when Earl's heart blockage takes him.

[Amy Phillips]

So I.

[Ben Mandelker]

I've got a stinted Earl who eats broccoli waiting in the wings. That's terrible. And Luann's like, you want to. You think any of us want to hurt their feelings? Come on, Shannon. I like that. Luannan's like, five seconds away from slapping Shannon at every moment.

[Amy Phillips]

She does. She really does. She really gets in. She wants to get in the mud pit. I mean, if they had a mud pit for these ladies, Luann will be the first one in there. And she's ready.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's ready to smack her. I love it. And Ashley says, but I want to give the key to Wale. And Luann goes, why does Ashley get the key? She's ready to fight for the extra.

[Amy Phillips]

Key, as she should. That's what should happen on Love Hotel, they believe.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, Luann's actually gonna, like, put the keys to use, you know?

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she's like, why give it to these people? What, is she gonna find another child? Yeah, I want the. I want the key.

[Amy Phillips]

Is she gonna find another child, give it to Shannon?

[Ben Mandelker]

She'll find another child, give it to Ashley. She'll just date another senior citizen. Give me the key. I'll fuck em.

[Amy Phillips]

All of them. Every last one of them, darling. No.

[Ben Mandelker]

All right, Larry. I love how she talks now's. The moment of truth. Who have you chosen to give your hell key to hell? To all of the men who are about to be offered a key. Stay away. Trying to warn them. So Ashley has decided to give the key to Wale, everybody. Wale is getting the Earl treatment. This man is not loving being second best all the time.

[Amy Phillips]

No.

[Ben Mandelker]

And he pretty much tells her at the bar. He's like, what is with the games? You kick me off, then you bring me back and you picked Ralph. Why are you talking to me? And she's like, but I could be in love with you.

[Amy Phillips]

That was a real left turn, Ashley. A real left turn.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. He's like, go talk to the old person. I'm going to bed.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah. Honestly, I really thought that he was going to be like, you know what? I don't want to be anyone's second choice. I'm going to check out on my own. Thank you. But he did not.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's going to take the free hotel night.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah, he wants to stay.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think he knows if he checks out, he's going to be sleeping on the beach. So he's like, I will take the air conditioning for one last night.

[Amy Phillips]

Absolutely.

[Ben Mandelker]

You nasty, nasty person. So Shanna's like, well, you know, I haven't had a lot of feelings of comfort in my relationships, but Earl's comfortable. Holy pair of jogging pants smells. But I still put them on every day, so I guess I'll marry my jogging pants.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah. He's like a snuggie from the early aughts. Just throw on that snuggie. Just shine with me.

[Ben Mandelker]

So let's see here. Ashley and Ralph. Ralph. She is going to test drive Ralph. Let's see how this goes.

[Amy Phillips]

Wow. That was definitely, definitely a shocker. I mean, not that much of a shocker, but the second he got up to that room, he lost his moves. He was just like a statue. He didn't. He wanted something. And I love the fact that she was like, I have my period. Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I think he thought this was going to be bone in time. I think she thought it was going to be bone in time, too. And then we find out later it's cause his kiss was terrible. But I don't know how she shocked. But I mean, his kiss was disgusting the first time. It just looked wet. Like you could feel the wetness and the weird lip movement and the. Ugh.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah. He must not have delivered that what was happening fully until this moment.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, yeah, she's like, I got my period today. And he's like.

[Amy Phillips]

Are you Jabba the Hut? Like, what is with these noises?

[Ben Mandelker]

I know.

[Amy Phillips]

The production probably was like, Anthony amping up those growls and doubling them up, you know? You know how they do.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like a creature in Lost. You're like, what is it? They never tell you. Yeah, I watched this for seven episodes.

[Amy Phillips]

Now we know.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Ashley and Giselle have this, like, girls talk where they're pretending to give a shit about any of these people, which is so funny. Giselle's like, what's going on, girl? And Ashley's like, oh, my gosh. He didn't make my. His kiss was gross. It didn't make my. My fanny flutter or whatever. And she's like, oh, my God. But I could be in love with Wale. She's like, oh, my God, I'm going to cry. Who are you?

[Amy Phillips]

That was weird. That was weird. That was very weird. That was weird because, like, she famously doesn't have too much emotion. You know what I mean? So for her to be like, I'm going to cry. It says a lot. And then for her to all of a sudden do like, a baby voice was odd. But also. But also. She didn't drop down into a baby octave. She just said it like.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was. I'm going to quiet.

[Amy Phillips]

It should. It should have been like, oh, I'm going to quiet. If you're going to go there, go full in. You can't go halfway on a baby voice.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, you gotta. You gotta commit to that. And then Ashley's like, well, you know, um. I don't really know about him, but I ain't. Flo comes to town all the time. When I meet her, I love her. Excuse her. All the time.

[Amy Phillips]

I love that. That was like, this is. This is what. It's true. These. That's what the ladies do. And I loved it. I loved every second of it. Good for Ashley.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then we go to Giselle. Oh, no, we're still in Giselle now. She's. We can fast forward. Fast forward. So then a beach picnic is being set up, and we see the new line of suitors. And this is where Joel is next to them in a Speedo for no reason. Really? I didn't. So, yeah, he felt uncomfortable. He looks great.

[Amy Phillips]

He looked great. I just wasn't sure. I thought, are we all going to get into swimsuits in a second? Because there's going to be a challenge.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. You know, I don't.

[Amy Phillips]

It didn't. It was. It was a complete non sequitur. I feel like they just Felt uncomfortable.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because, you know, it's like when someone's in a Speedo and everyone's at. Everyone's in a swimsuit, it's one thing. But when there's just one person in the Speedos, I don't know, I felt uncomfortable. I was like, get him a pashmina for crying. Embarrassing, but he looks hot. So then he's like, welcome to the dating pool. I was like, you can't stand there in a Speedo and talk like that. You have to at least have some energy. You've got a Speedo on.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah, let's get it. Let's get it going. Like, hey, ladies, check this out. Like, let's go. I'm ready to party.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Like, look at me, I've got a margarita. I'm a Speedo lady. Highlighting.

[Amy Phillips]

Welcome back to the every scene. I'm like, oh, did the Shannon thing just happen? Because he looks pissed or, you know, I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

So he's like, standing in front of me are six incredible new bachelors. Only three keys. Ashley verse. I'm going to say Ashley verse again. Is Ashley going to grow her universe some more in the Ashley verse?

[Amy Phillips]

Why do you keep calling me Ashley Burst. I get it, I get it, I get it, I get. We all get it.

[Ben Mandelker]

We all get it, okay? Just please save Wally. So who will they save? And he's like. And we've got someone who got away a little too early. So I decided to bring the star of the season back, this guy who looks like Santa Claus. It's Mark. And Mark comes back. He's like, hey, everybody.

[Amy Phillips]

Me, Mark, crawling over the rocks like. Like a gnome under a bridge or I don't know what under. What lives under bridges, but just something.

[Ben Mandelker]

Trolls.

[Amy Phillips]

Thank you. Trolls. Like a troll crawling over the rocks in, like an Aladdin outfit. It was so. It was like a jump scare.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Luan's like, oh, it's Mark. Mark is back. Wow. He goes, I'm back. So he jumps over the couch but misses it.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah, there's that. That's right. Thanks, guys, for leaving that in poor Mark.

[Ben Mandelker]

Silhouette's like, mark, get over here. All right, You've got one chance. He's like, all right, I'm coming. I mean, look at him. He looks just like Jesus. Why do you keep saying that? You know Jesus died when he was 30, right? Do you mean Moses?

[Amy Phillips]

I don't know my Bible, darling, the royal. The royal Bible is different than that. You know, when I traveled, all the Bibles are different where I come from.

[Ben Mandelker]

Darling, it's different in Switzerland. All right. Learn to ski. Only Americans killed Jesus off in their Bible so young. God, you and your school violence. Jesus.

[Amy Phillips]

It's not Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. It's Padre, Jean Luc, Jisoir and Gombo. It's like all. She talks like she is speaking like English is not her first language, you know? Remember when she was talking to Adam and she was like, I mean, Shannon is the one you want. No, no.

[Ben Mandelker]

No.

[Amy Phillips]

I mean, how do you say. How do you say. How did Joel say it? This is your last shot. No. You know English, Luann.

[Ben Mandelker]

You are fluent. Madame, stop lying. So she's like, mark, get over here. All right, Mark, listen, I tried to save you. He's like, you did not. You sent me home. She's like, no, I didn't. Well, I mean, I did send you home, but then I had the option to save a person. So I said the Jesus one. And, you know, you came back. You still didn't fuck me, Mark. So what do I gotta do?

[Amy Phillips]

I mean, where's the second Coming? Get it, darling.

[Ben Mandelker]

Where's the first? What kind of Easter are you?

[Amy Phillips]

My egg? Open twirling. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, oh, well, I mean, all right. She's. What are you gonna. Come on. I'm standing here right in front of you. I'm half naked. You look like Jesus Christ superstar. What am I? I'm a turkey. I'm done. Stick it in me. Find out.

[Amy Phillips]

Find out.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, it's like, really? She goes, oh, Jesus Christ. I'm going to the bathroom. I can't please someone get this impotent motherfucker off the be. He's wasted my time. She's done with him because he didn't stick his tongue down. Down her throat.

[Amy Phillips]

Good for her. What is he doing? Waste of time.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she's already over him. So then we go to meet the new man. Luann introduces herself to Mitch, a retired psychotherapist from Sacramento.

[Amy Phillips]

Oh, good note.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Ashley meets Calvin, a 30 year old boxer and chef from LA, California. No. No.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah. What?

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[Ben Mandelker]

I don't want to eat your violent food.

[Amy Phillips]

Violent food. You're right. You know, he's just taken that. He's pulverizing all of his meats. Just all of them, you know, for.

[Ben Mandelker]

A tossed salad, not a pummeled salad. What is wrong with this salad? They're fucking romaine.

[Amy Phillips]

I. I take it back. I. I don't want a man who eats veggies. I take it back. I take it back.

[Ben Mandelker]

Eat vegetables, don't abuse them. And Calvin's hot as hell, of course. Boxer, chef. I mean, hello. And he's like, born in London, but raised in Jersey. I mean, that's hot. And accent. Well, he doesn't have. But could have an accent when he gets mad, but also goes to the gym a lot. Jersey.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah, we don't. We haven't heard him long enough to hear the nuances of the voice and the accent.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. Yeah, but he's cute. And then Shannon meets a guy named Theo, who's a dentist and a surgeon, which is always a mistake to tell people at parties because every time they're like, oh, well, all of my teeth. Well, it turns out I've had multiple root canals. And so I have an appointment scheduled to get all the root canals pulled because they're dead matter in my mouth. Apparently, I'm full of dead matter. You want to feel?

[Amy Phillips]

I'll say, ah. And. And then you look and you'll see, like, each tooth, if you open it up, is like a little coffin. And inside is just ashes. Like, just. Just black roots. You'll see. I mean. I mean, where the roots used to be, it's just black. Just tunnels. Tunnels.

[Ben Mandelker]

My mouth is basically what Is filled with what we're now calling earls. Just a bunch of. It didn't matter. She called me.

[Amy Phillips]

Do you need me? Shannon, do you need me? Shannon, I'm over here. Shannon, I'm over.

[Ben Mandelker]

Stay, stay, stay. Archie is still fine. You stay right over there. So Theo's like, well, you definitely need to come see me. I do not want to make out with this person.

[Amy Phillips]

Right. Come see me in my office, not over at the fire pit.

[Ben Mandelker]

Lady Giselle says there's some cutie pies. Not for me, but there's some cutie pies for other people, for people with no standards. There are plenty of men here. So Luann's still trying to get Mark to make out with her and just leaves. And then Giselle is talking to Theo, the oral surgeon from New York, and Brian. And so this is where they're telling her that they won't even give them hotel rooms.

[Amy Phillips]

That was so funny.

[Ben Mandelker]

Which is really funny.

[Amy Phillips]

I loved it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So low budge.

[Amy Phillips]

It is so great. They're gonna move them on to, like, when they get kicked out. They're not even gonna be able to stay at that hotel. They're gonna put them down the road. Courtyard.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Amy Phillips]

Just anything.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they talk about marriage. And Theo's like, yeah, I was married for 20 years. Both my kids are with me full time because they wanted.

[Amy Phillips]

It chose me.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, whoa, whoa, Theo. I am getting dark, dark vibes from Theo. Yeah. I mean, say no to Theo.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Who says that?

[Amy Phillips]

Someone who killed his wife. I'm sorry. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

[Ben Mandelker]

What kind of impression are you trying to get? Like, yeah, well, I was married, but my wife's a fucking pig.

[Amy Phillips]

I mean, right? That was shocking and disturbing and terrible dye job, Terrible diet job as well.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, yeah, I say no to this guy, and he's like, yeah, people just want me. Cause I'm a doctor. You know, it's hard to find someone who's, like, genuine and nice. In New York, someone will hear you're a doctor or surgeon, and they're thinking more what you could do for them. I mean, look at dead matter mouth over there.

[Amy Phillips]

Dead matter mouth.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, good.

[Amy Phillips]

Perfect example. Perfect example.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't know about that guy. So California Calvin is asked by Ashley if he wants children. And he's like, oh, 100%. I mean, if it happens, if that happens, I would be absolutely blessed. Absolutely blessed. I don't believe you, sir.

[Amy Phillips]

No, if that happens, he's just the kind of guy that, like, is gonna say whatever. He's not gonna have a stance. He's just gonna be like, sure, whatever life throws my way, I go with it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, he's like a TV fuck boy, don't you think? Like a bachelor kind of guy.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. He applied.

[Ben Mandelker]

Then Shanna is talking to all these guys, and she's just not into anybody. She's like, so. Well, I'm going to look kind of to the side and purse my lips a bit while I ask you these questions, but whether you're interested. You play sports. Okay, gross. You play sports? That's disgusting.

[Amy Phillips]

Right? You went to a school where? In Massachusetts? I cannot. With the East Coast. I grew up on boats, but not on the East Coast. Not there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Inferior boats. Massachusetts.

[Amy Phillips]

I don't even know if it was Massachusetts. Who knows? I got Karen Reid on my mind. You know what I mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm an executive for a tech firm. Oh. Oh, that is disgusting. Okay, well, in her mouth.

[Amy Phillips]

Tech attack. Oh, I took a selfie. Want to see my bloody face? Here. I took this. And I don't remember taking it, but I'm showing everyone here.

[Ben Mandelker]

So I wanted to remember this day because I was with a man who pretended he didn't hear this happening right down the road from him. And so it's been a year and two days. And I would like to celebrate the year in two days by taking a selfie. Could you just pour this ketchup on my face? I want people to see how much better I look covered in ketchup. A year and two days later.

[Amy Phillips]

Controversial opinion. Shannon looks really good with the blood on her face. Like she. And I think she thinks she looks hot, too. She just looks good?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, yeah, you're gonna use a hot picture no matter what. Like, you can be covered in blood, but if you look good, if it's a good selfie angle, you look good.

[Amy Phillips]

A good selfie. And she just. She kind of looks a little sexy. She's trying it out. Does this do this for you? Does this do anything for you? It's like Carrie meets Orange County. I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm thinking of using this as my new passport photo. Brings it out everywhere. Fucking Shannon. Oh, my God. This lady's so crazy. They need to just have every season with Shannon because she kills me. Just watching her interact with people is so funny to me.

[Amy Phillips]

That's the best.

[Ben Mandelker]

She talks to the younger guy. There's a younger guy named Scott who's 38. He's a software tech salesman. And I think he's so cute. I mean, I really like a basic Midwestern looking just Nothing of a guy.

[Amy Phillips]

Have you seen my husband? I mean, he is right up my alley.

[Ben Mandelker]

Your husband's hot.

[Amy Phillips]

Thank you. Basic Midwest guy. And, like, so. And I liked his joke with Ashley where he was like, I had this set up. And then everybody can do that. Everyone can make that joke about how something was set up, you know? But what he did, which I loved, was he goes, thanks, Bill. He personalized it, you know, I mean, I thought that was a great little. I was like, that's actually funny.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. He's, like, taking dad jokes, but he's making him his own.

[Amy Phillips]

There you go. That's a way to do. And his delivery was dry enough to where it wasn't that cheesy. So I liked him. And he was shocked when he was told that he had to leave, and I was bummed.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was shocked that he had to leave, too. But, I mean, look at all the hotties that were there. I mean, I guess we shouldn't be. I thought he was hot. And Shannon's like, oh, you are very young. You are. Wow. You are stem cells about to be injected into my body. Can we get somebody over here?

[Amy Phillips]

Necktite. Face tight.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was at a housewarming party yesterday, and someone had a little girl, and I was like, oh, hi. So nice to meet you. And she's like, great. She said, oh, thanks. You know, whatever. And she's telling me about the kid. And I was like, you've probably got great stem cells. And her mom was like, she backed the kid away. I was like, I'm just kidding. Forget. I can't joke like that with people I don't know. And also, we're in la. And also, I'm not really joking. She should have had a syringe.

[Amy Phillips]

I got it even more so. Hello. Weird. Weird.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you would think so. I shouldn't have been holding the syringe in my hand. I think that was taking it a little too far.

[Amy Phillips]

You think it was too far? Okay, fair enough.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she's like, wow, you're young. And he's like, oh, I'm a little too old for you, probably. Okay, no, you, you, you, you, you, you. You are very young. I'm just. I just look young with ketchup. He's like, oh, I'm 38. She, guess what, I'm 27 on the inside. And you're not.

[Amy Phillips]

No, you're really not. I go Trojans. Wait, who does she play? Wait, what is it, usc? Who are they again?

[Ben Mandelker]

University of Spoiled Children. How dare you. How dare you.

[Amy Phillips]

No, no, no. Kelly, no, Kelly. Kelly, Kelly, Kelly.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're stupid. We get Kelly on Love Island. I hate all of you.

[Amy Phillips]

Love Island. Yeah, yeah, get her on Love Island. Not Love Island.

[Ben Mandelker]

A new bombshell. A new bombshell in the casa.

[Amy Phillips]

Fuck off. Yo, this bitch. God, you're coupled up with him. I was going to pick you home. I picked him first.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, do this to me.

[Amy Phillips]

I call Rick. That'd be amazing. That would be amazing.

[Ben Mandelker]

I didn't warn you I was keeping you here for five hours, did I? Let's see. So Theo talks to Giselle. You know, they're making small talk. And Giselle mentions that he likes doing crazy things like going to Spain and running with the bulls. And Giselle just hears, like, frequent flyer miles. She's like, that's hot.

[Amy Phillips]

Yes. She's like, oh, my God. Delta One. Like, we get to go in the Delta?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Amy Phillips]

What do you call it? I don't know. Up in the.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, the Delta One. Whatever that's called. She's like, all I hear is boarding Group one. Scott talks to as know they're making small talk, but nothing really bangs with these guys. Nothing really connects with the guys. And so Ashley, especially Calvin's, really overconfident, and he comes over and tries to break up her. She's talking to some dude, and Calvin comes over. He's like, ashley, I'd like to steal you. We're gonna make s' mores. And the guy's like, I'm talking to her. I'll make s' mores with you. He's like, no, it's just for me and Ashley. So he's very, like, bachelor trained.

[Amy Phillips]

Very.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ashley does not want that. So, yeah, she gets rid of him. This guy looked shocked when he was dumped.

[Amy Phillips]

Very, very. I kind of. I mean, I didn't feel bad, but I did notice.

[Ben Mandelker]

I didn't feel bad. I actually liked that he was dumped. And he was so shocked. And he got dumped for, like, a lot of old guys. I think he was like, oh, my God. Like, hot people. Can't compute. You just see it frying in his ass.

[Amy Phillips]

Scramble. Scramble. And the tech guy's like, I can help you with that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I've got some tech company. Just. It's an out of country number.

[Amy Phillips]

Not sus at all.

[Ben Mandelker]

So let's see, who do they end up keeping here? So I think Luann keeps Mark just to be nice, Right? It's like, well, they flew him in again, so I'll keep him.

[Amy Phillips]

Mitch. Oh, yeah. She keeps Mitch because he wants to travel all over the world.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, right. To travel all over the world.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So she keeps Mitch. And Mitch takes a big swig. He's like, yeah. And her guy's upset. And there was one part. Was it here? There was one part where that guy's like, well, hey, I'm just telling the guys that Luann's my boyfriend. She's like, no, I'm not your girlfriend yet. You better slow down. I feel like I'm like, no, no, she got him.

[Amy Phillips]

She got him, like, corralled very quickly. I loved it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Mark's like, wait a minute. You guys are a girlfriend and boyfriend? She goes, yeah, we wrote a song together. All right, hit it. Hit it, boys. Like, he's going, love Hotel. And she's like, love hotel. Love Hot. No. Love Hotel. Luann, you can't even find the key to Love Hotel. It's got two notes.

[Amy Phillips]

The key. Get it. Wait, how about when they went up to the room? And she's like, do you want to see my other hats?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, God.

[Amy Phillips]

And then she puts the little towel over the camera.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. She's like, don't worry. They can't follow me in here. And so they go. He's like, I don't want to get caught with my pants down. She's, don't worry. They can't see. There's a camera right on the door that's looking at them. So, yeah, she's. She eventually covers it, does the deed.

[Amy Phillips]

That's great. Love Hotel.

[Ben Mandelker]

The love hotel composer.

[Amy Phillips]

Good for her.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So she got a little. So that was nice. That was.

[Amy Phillips]

It was nice.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And then otherwise, I think it mostly stayed the same, Right?

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah. Ashley got. Wait, Scott and Calvin. I feel like she had them both stay. Luann gave Mitch the key. Giselle, Theo, and then Shannon, Mark. Is that right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, yeah. Because Shannon got to keep another one. So she kept Mark.

[Amy Phillips]

Is that right, I think. Or is it Ashley got to. Why do I have so many terrible recapper.

[Ben Mandelker]

I literally have this written down.

[Amy Phillips]

Sorry, Ben.

[Ben Mandelker]

I fast forwarded through so fast at.

[Amy Phillips]

The end, we're like, I don't care. It's fine.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't really care.

[Amy Phillips]

Some people stayed, some people went. You know, we'll find out next.

[Ben Mandelker]

Some old guy got laid.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah, that's pretty much it, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. But I think Ashley got rid of Calvin. I know that. Cause I remember the look of horror.

[Amy Phillips]

She get rid of Calvin?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Cause I remember the look of horror on his face when he got kicked off. And then she has a talk with Wale, and she's like, I don't know if I can build a life that you deserve. And he says, well, they always argue, but they don't know why. And it's kind of him calling her on her bullshit all the time.

[Amy Phillips]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ben sees it more as him being like kind of an and argumentative, which I think he is. I think he is argumentative. Like, I don't disagree. But also I think he's seeing through Ashley's because she's full of it. Ashley's all constantly telling this guy stuff and he's like, well, what does that mean, Ashley?

[Amy Phillips]

Right.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, one minute like, you're asking me if I want babies. Like, you want babies? Now you're upset that I want babies? Like, what is it? What are you trying to say, Ashley? I know, I don't like that you're saying that. He's like, but why are we arguing? She's like, but you're arguing.

[Amy Phillips]

But I need to stay on this show because I have to make it interesting because I have a boyfriend back home. So I'm just trying.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And he's like, well, this is my first show. Give me a chance to stay on it. I'm gonna have some lines. I'm trying to build a life too. Jesus.

[Amy Phillips]

He is very funny in his confessionals. He's really funny. I really like Wale.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And he's a little red flaggy when they talk, you know, I do see that.

[Amy Phillips]

But he's great for tv.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So I'm glad he's staying. But. And then, but then he says things like this, which disappoint me. He goes, you know, I don't know what's going on with Ashley. Ashley's like a PlayStation controller. She just plays games.

[Amy Phillips]

Weak, weak, weak.

[Ben Mandelker]

A PlayStation controller doesn't play games humans play.

[Amy Phillips]

Thank you.

[Ben Mandelker]

The controller is just the vessel instrument. The instrument that we use.

[Amy Phillips]

How. How dare you? How dare you get that wrong?

[Ben Mandelker]

Dare you. So we get one final argument with Ashley and Wale and she walks off and he just stares into the fire. And that's it. That's Love Hotel Yalls.

[Amy Phillips]

It's so good. It is. Watching this show with Luann play her game, run her game is absolutely fascinating and I love it.

[Ben Mandelker]

It is. I agree. And just all the casting, I think, because I think Ashley was last minute. I heard from somewhere. I don't remember who, but no one. I'm probably making it up, but Ashley. It was supposed to be Bryn from New York and then all this stuff happened from New York and then they recast It. And so she was like the new cast, the young person that they cast.

[Amy Phillips]

Whoa.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I actually think that works out perfect. I think she's. Even if she has a boy, I don't care if it's fake.

[Amy Phillips]

I don't care either.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm used to bachelor. That shit's all fake. So I don't care that it's fake. And I think her energy with Giselle's really good on it. I like the. There's girlfriends in it. I think Shannon and Luanna Hilaris. I even love Giselle in it.

[Amy Phillips]

I love it, too. I love her.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And I'm not always a huge Giselle, Stan.

[Amy Phillips]

But I love her in this. She's fantastic. She's very grounding in it, you know, for everybody. Everyone is so different, and that's what makes it so great. You're right. The casting is fantastic.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And the idea came from the Internet, not me. But I think Giselle would be the perfect choice to take over hosting.

[Amy Phillips]

Wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's a cool thing. I'm just like, you don't really like him, you know? Cause, you know she'd be like, why are you keeping him?

[Amy Phillips]

You don't really like him. Yes. She would get right down to. And that's what you need.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Amy, this was so much fun talking to you.

[Amy Phillips]

Oh, my God, my stomach is in pain. I laugh so hard.

[Ben Mandelker]

You gotta go take a nap from laughing so hard. You're making me laugh.

[Amy Phillips]

Your Luanne is perfect.

[Ben Mandelker]

Your impressions are all good, but your Luanne literally sounds exactly like her. I love it. That's crazy.

[Amy Phillips]

Thanks for having me.

[Ben Mandelker]

So talented, everybody. Go follow and listen to drama, darling. Anywhere you get your podcast, follow Amy on Instagram etamyphillips and go to her Patreon for a ton of extra rec. Including all of you who are looking for Secret Lives of Mormon Wife.

[Amy Phillips]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

You'll find hilarious recaps of it of the. Of it over there.

[Amy Phillips]

Earl the Pearl.

[Ben Mandelker]

We sure love you guys. I love you, Amy. Thanks for being here.

[Amy Phillips]

Thank you. And thanks to all your listeners.

[Ben Mandelker]

We'll talk to you guys soon. Bye.

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