#2868 RHOA S16E13 Part One: I’d Catch a Grenada For You

Summary

Watch What Crappens Podcast Summary: Episode #2868 – RHOA S16E13 Part One: "I’d Catch a Grenada For You"

Release Date: June 2, 2025

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1. Hosts' Updates and Tour Experiences

Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam kick off the episode by sharing updates about their recent nationwide tour. Ben expresses his appreciation for the journey, stating:

"The two of us have been traveling across the country with our show, which has been so fun. But I tell you, coming back home, it just feels so great to escape to a place that truly feels like my own." ([00:00])

Ronnie adds her excitement about enhancing home spaces, highlighting their use of Wayfair products during their travels:

"I redid my whole patio using their stuff. I've got couches out there. I've got three dining room tables. It's a big space out there." ([00:11])

The hosts also discuss upcoming events, including their next destination in Seattle and the finale of their Mounting Hysteria tour in Hollywood, encouraging listeners to attend and support them via Patreon.

2. Ben's Norway Adventure

Ben shares anecdotes from his trip to Norway, reflecting on cultural experiences and humorous mishaps:

"I just went to Texas instead of Norway." ([08:48])

He recounts attempts to recreate Below Deck Adventure scenes and interactions with locals, including guidance from Captain Carrie:

"I found what looked to be the exact spot where she posed, and I found some random stranger. I said, excuse me, could you hold my camera? I'm trying to take a... I'm Faye." ([11:23])

Ben’s misadventures segue into discussions about cultural differences and his plans to create a video slideshow of his trip.

3. Recap and Analysis of RHOA Season 16 Episode 13 Part One

a. Charity Episode Highlights

The episode centers around a Real Housewives of Atlanta charity event where cast members donate toys to underprivileged children. Ronnie critiques the excessive nature of the donations:

"Why the fuck did they buy that many toys for that one little girl? She was stacks on stacks on stacks of toys." ([13:08])

Ben echoes these sentiments, questioning the sustainability and necessity of such over-consumption:

"You should not have so many for one child. Although I guess she has more than one child, but it seemed like all these toys were really for this, for Shia." ([15:15])

b. Behavior and Over-Consumption by Housewives

The hosts delve into the juxtaposition of charitable acts against the backdrop of lavish lifestyles portrayed on the show. Ronnie humorously imagines Melissa Gorga at a donation center, emphasizing the disconnect:

"I just imagine Melissa Gorga standing there at the donation center, like, oh, here, here. You go enjoy your used clothes." ([14:13])

c. Specific Storylines: Portia and Drew's Conflict

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the tension between Portia and Drew, highlighting their strained relationship and public confrontations. Ronnie mocks Portia's exaggerated charity efforts:

"She cooked an entirely separate meal for the homeless people." ([17:09])

Ben expresses skepticism about the authenticity of these acts:

"I'm sorry, this just sounds like the biggest crock of shit." ([18:28])

The hosts analyze Portia and Drew's interactions, focusing on Drew's struggles with her vocal cords and Portia's accusations of dating rumors:

"Drew, the tea is not going to help at this point, okay? The ship has sailed." ([35:15])

d. Kelly's Personal Story and Custody Issues

Kelly faces challenges balancing her role as a mother with her public persona. The hosts critique the show's emphasis on her personal life over more engaging storylines:

"Let's just do something better than this. Kelly deserves better. She's more interesting than what they're giving her." ([49:02])

Ronnie laments the lack of compelling content related to Kelly's custody battles:

"I'm just listening or talking about stuff that happens off camera all season long." ([45:56])

e. General Commentary on Show Dynamics

Throughout the recap, Ben and Ronnie offer sharp, humorous commentary on the repetitive and often superficial storylines within RHOA:

"We think next year we might be hitting, like, year 20 of the Real Housewives. I'm not sure. Has the vacation ever healed anyone? Have we ever seen any healing, literally? Never." ([27:30])

They highlight the cyclical nature of conflicts and resolutions, questioning the genuine impact of group trips on personal relationships.

4. Hosts' Humor and Personal Insights

Interspersed with their critique, the hosts infuse humor and personal anecdotes, making the discussion lively and engaging. For instance, Ronnie shares a childhood memory that parallels the dramatic antics of the housewives:

"I had this toy box that was shaped like a big plastic football. And then I would shove my little sister in there..." ([15:39])

Their banter adds a relatable and entertaining dimension to the podcast, enhancing the listener's experience.

5. Conclusion and Teasers for Part Two

As the episode concludes, Ben and Ronnie hint at continuing the discussion in a two-part recap format, encouraging listeners to tune in for the next installment:

"Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one. Of a two-part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers." ([57:39])

They also briefly mention upcoming episodes and events, maintaining engagement with their audience.

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Notable Quotes:

• "Why the fuck did they buy that many toys for that one little girl?" – Ronnie Karam ([13:08])
• "I'm sorry, this just sounds like the biggest crock of shit." – Ben Mandelker ([18:28])
• "Kelly deserves better. She's more interesting than what they're giving her." – Ben Mandelker ([49:02])

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Final Thoughts:

In this episode of Watch What Crappens, Ben and Ronnie provide a candid and humorous analysis of Real Housewives of Atlanta Season 16 Episode 13 Part One. Their insightful commentary sheds light on the show's portrayal of charity, personal conflicts, and the recurring nature of its storylines. With a blend of sharp critique and relatable humor, the hosts offer both entertainment and thoughtful reflections, making this recap a must-listen for fans and newcomers alike.

For more detailed discussions and exclusive content, consider supporting the hosts on Patreon.

Transcript

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the radiant and colorful Ronnie Caram. Hi, Ronnie. How are you?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, hello. Welcome home, buddy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you so much. Thanks for, thanks for, for holding down the. The. Whatever the phrase is, holding down the fort. While I was out and about gallivanting across Norway, I was so appreciative of all the, all our friends who came in and stepped up and subbed in for me during that week. So thanks to everyone who joined you. That was.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it was a really cool relationship week. It was swinger, where you get to just to party with everybody that you always wanted to, but then you're like, I still miss my husband, you know. Good. It was romantic in the end.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, well, it was really wonderful seeing all those clips on, on social media and everything. And it was really cool to see all of our friends and I was a little jealous. I was jealous that you got to, you know, ham it up with some of those. Those folks. But I hope that you two go on vacation for a week and then I will get to have the fun.

[Ronnie Karam]

Don't you worry. You'll get your turn.

[Ben Mandelker]

Good, good. Because I want to have fun with our friends too. So.

[Ronnie Karam]

Really fun. Campire did a great job on this one. Love you, Campire. Thanks for stopping by, buddy.

[Ben Mandelker]

We love Kempire Yeah, because today we're talking about Real Housewives of Atlanta. Before we dive into that, next week, we go to Seattle and we are going to recap the season premiere of the Real Housewives of Miami. So that's gon be a whole lot of fun. That is next Thursday. So go to watchrocrappens.com to get your tickets. And then the Following Thursday, on June 19, we have the finale of the Mounting Hysteria tour. It all comes to an end at the Henry Fonda theater or maybe just the Fonda theater in Hollywood. We're not sure what we're.

[Ronnie Karam]

The Jane Theater.

[Ben Mandelker]

Jane Fonda Theater. Maybe many things. We think we know what we're going to recap there, but we'll still give it like a week in case we change our mind or something. But get your [e-mail] these are going to be such fun final shows of our tour. Can't wait to see everyone. And of course, Patreon. Patreon.com watchwithcrappins get access to bonus episodes starting tomorrow. By the way, Ronnie, Love island is back. Love island usa. With our sweet, sweet Ariana as our, as the host. It is back. So what we did last year is that we just did sort of like 20 minute check ins where we just kind of talked about what we watched. It's not full recaps just like this because if we did full recaps of Love island, we would literally just like die. That's a industry that's, that's a lot.

[Ronnie Karam]

But we're gonna check in nine hours a week of pure hoary.

[Ben Mandelker]

But what we will do is we will talk about the previous night's episode on Patreon pretty much every day. So we're looking forward to that. That's gonna be a fun time. Anything else I have to announce? I'm rusty. I'm like, how do I do this again? What am I supposed to announce at the top of the show? Am I doing okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

Nailed it. You nailed it, buddy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Nailed it. I will say this. I got a lot of people who reached out about, like, they want to hear about my Norway trip or whatever. I was kind of thinking, Ronnie, that what I might do is like, I might make like a little video where I just like go through like, you know how like back in the old days when you took pictures on a trip, you did like a slideshow and you bored all your friends and make them look. But I was thinking maybe I could bore the Internet with it and maybe I just do like a little video And I can show people through my photos. So I think I might try to do that this week.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Make like a picture book. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because it'll be too long for me to go on about every single thing. And you know me, I'm gonna start going on about every single thing, but in a video for. On its own separate video. I might just do that. So.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, do it. Why not?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Start your own Magnolia network.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ben's Guide to Norway.

[Ronnie Karam]

Benolia in Norway.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I'm so glad that. So this is my first time ever going on a tour group, and I'm so glad that a member of my Norwegian tour group, Fran, will be joining us in Seattle. Seattle show. Because she's from that area.

[Ronnie Karam]

Shout out to Fran. Fran. Love it. Can't wait to meet you, Fran.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, she's great. So anyway, yeah, dude, enough about a.

[Ronnie Karam]

Whole series so we can watch it. Because watching all of your Instagram stories and stuff was just. I mean, that was magical. My goodness. I've never eaten. Seen somebody eat so much fish. It's a lot of beautiful. It was a lot of fish and really gorgeous food.

[Ben Mandelker]

My God, it was. It was amazing. Like, the food was. Was great. A lot of people ahead of the trip were like, does Norway really have good food? But I can just. I can tell you now, Norway has good food, and I ate a lot of it. It was basically a week.

[Ronnie Karam]

People are such dicks. Yes. People like food everywhere, guys. Okay? Every. Everybody eats.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. It was basically like, buttercream, buttercream, buttercream, buttercream, buttercream. I mean, it was perfect. It was wonderful.

[Ronnie Karam]

You were in the South.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wait a second.

[Ronnie Karam]

Hey, wait a minute. Stop. Stop basing your meals on my fitness pal entries.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was like, the roads were so wide, I couldn't believe it. I was surprised by all the billboards advertising Bible things. Imagine.

[Ronnie Karam]

You got. You just got scammed.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just went to Texas instead of Norway.

[Ronnie Karam]

They're like, this is jobs Lukenduk. It's mayonnaise. Okay. You can't trick me, Helga.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was so good. But anyway, I know. I felt like I was gonna say all these fun things about Norway today. And now I'm like, I don't even know what to say.

[Ronnie Karam]

Just let them unleash as they come up throughout the week.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, I know this is gonna be the beginning of, oh, did I tell you I went to Norway phase? Right? Like, that's what's gonna be for the next two weeks. Yeah, It'll be like, well, when I.

[Ronnie Karam]

Was in Norway, Norway Let me tell you, the forks aren't laid out the same way as they are in Norway, I'll tell you that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm literally gonna be that person for, like, a month. I'm. I'm already Apollo. I'm gonna apologize in advance, but I'm gonna be like. Well, in Norway, the way they watch TV is that they act. What they. What they do is they just take a herring and attach an antenna to it and see what they can see with an identity.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're just going to be like, I smell rain in the air. But oddly enough, it smells like Norwegian rain. Very distinct.

[Ben Mandelker]

Rania. I can't help but notice a lot of sunlight coming through the windows behind you. You know, in Norway, the sun was out very late.

[Ronnie Karam]

Norway right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

But what I will say is that today we're talking about Real Housewives of Atlanta, and I watched my screener in an airport in Helsinki because I had a layover in Helsinki because I only got back from Norway last night, by the way. I'm basically still in Norway because I was in Norway, in case you didn't hear. And I have to say, there was something sort of weird and surreal about watching the Real Housewives of Atlanta in Helsinki at an airport. I don't know why. It just felt, like, strange to be, like, watching Bravo TV in the middle of a foreign country.

[Ronnie Karam]

When we traveled last year out of the country to do crap in shows, I was watching shows in the airport, and I was hyped the computer. Like, I felt embarrassed in Europe to be watching Housewives because I feel like there's such a prevalent, like, stupid Americans. And, you know, we can argue about whether that's accurate or not. Well, this is not a conversation for that. But I was definitely like, oh, my God, they're gonna think I'm so stupid, you know? So I was, like, hiding my housewives. And then I came back and I felt ashamed. I was like, why would you hide that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't hide.

[Ronnie Karam]

Proud.

[Ben Mandelker]

Be proud. Actually, what I will say what was really so funny was that, like, one of the places that I went to, like, where my little group tour began, was a small city on the coast called Ulasund. And that was where Below Deck Adventure was based. And I was like, of course that's where it was based. Of course. Everything, no matter what, comes back to Bravo. Even if I go to Norway, I'm like, oh, I'm going to where Below Deck Adventure was.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I saw Captain Carrie messaging you, being like, hello, mate. I see you're out having an adventure. You need any tips on the locals, let me know. I know the best tin stops there are.

[Ben Mandelker]

He did. He gave me some tips because I also made it my mission to. To recreate Faye's official Bravo bio photo there at Ollison. So I found. I found what looked to be the exact spot where she posed, and I. I found some random stranger. I said, excuse me, could you hold my camera? I'm trying to take a. I'm trying to do a picture, and I'm also trying to make, like, make it look like this woman. And I showed her the picture of Faye standing there like, I'm Faye. Wear your hair down and makeup on your face when you're swimming, people.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, that's really important in this town, is lipstick and hairspray. Ladies, get out there. Get out there and impress. So let's get to Real Housewives of Atlanta now. We're celebrating one of my favorite housewives things this week, which is really rich people patting themselves on the back for taking a luxury trip and bagging some shit up for goodwill. I mean, you would think these women donated their implants to starving children. I mean, I'm like, wow, you guys are really, really patting themselves on the shoulder really hard for this. While they're packing for a luxury trip. They're like, it's really all about the charity. All right.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Karam]

Take that money and give that to the poor people. Okay. Then I'll be impressed. But as for the rest of it, we start with Shamia with Shia, and you see just massive boxes of little girl shit that they've packed up, and she's like, we're giving all this stuff away to charity. Cause we're good people. And she's like, poor people. I want to keep.

[Ben Mandelker]

Was so interesting because, you know, on the one hand, it's like, this is so lovely that they're giving all these toys to the poor people. But then, honestly, my first instinct was, why the fuck did they buy that many toys for that one little girl? She was stacks on stacks on stacks on stacks of toys.

[Ronnie Karam]

Literal garage.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is so excessive. Like, you get. You want like a. You want a trophy for donating all this stuff, and yet, like, let's overlook the insane over consumption here. This was. It was so crazy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. I mean, this is housewives, though, you know, That's. That's what it is. But it's like, yeah, they're like, we're such givers. It's like, guys.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

I just imagine Melissa Gorga standing there at the donation center, like, oh, here, here. You Go enjoy your used clothes.

[Ben Mandelker]

From Envy. It's the. Yeah, it's the overstock from Envy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And meanwhile, she's like, yeah, you know, my daughters are blessed, but I just don't want them growing up bratty and cut to her kid with like, you know, a mile high stack of shit.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And, you know, the only reason why they're getting rid of that shit is because there's new shit to take its place. Like, there's. You cannot tell me that there's. This kid now has no toys. Like, she. Look, she seems like a great little girl, but, like, wait, this is too much. This is too much. I'm sorry. You should not have so many for one child. Although I guess she has. I know she has more than one child, but it seemed like all these toys were really for this, for Shia. And you should not have so many toys that they can fit in stacks and stacks and stacks all the way up to the roof of your garage. I'm sorry. It is too much.

[Ronnie Karam]

Here's what you need. One good toy. So, like, when I was a kid, I mean, I had toys and stuff. It's not like I was so deprived, you know, I was a spoiled kid. But. But you need one good toy that can just. You can have fun with forever. I had this toy box that was shaped like a big plastic football. And then I would shove my little sister in there, and then me and my friends would, like, roll her down the street in it, or we'd like push it down the stairs with her in it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ideally, any sort of vessel that you can put another child into and roll them around somewhere. That's really all you need.

[Ronnie Karam]

All you need is an abuse chamber for that sibling, you know, and then you've got. You've got fun that'll last for years. Because we're still laughing about it now. My sister. Yeah, my sister laughs like this. So.

[Ben Mandelker]

She'S, like, still laughing about it to my therapist. I feel like a child could probably. I'm just trying to think of what I had. And, like, I think I probably had about. I probably had, if you put it all together, maybe like two laundry baskets worth of toys, which I think is like a nice amount of variety or whatever. It's just. It's not. It's just. It's not a garage full. I mean, it's just at that point, you're. You're spoiling your child.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, you know, if you can do it, do it some work. Yeah, let's buy what you spoil your child.

[Ben Mandelker]

Go have fun with It. But I also fully expect you to. Then, you know, you also have to foot the therapy bill later on. Okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And then she makes her husband look really good too, because she's like, well, you know, the thing is, I'm just a giver. Like, I'm just. All I do is give, give, give. Like, I love charity, you know, and it's a bit of a tug of war, even with my husband. Cause I remember I pulled under. Under the 285 bridge, and I just started cooking an entirely separate meal for homeless people. Like, well, what does that mean? You pulled under the bridge? Like, you. Were you cooking another meal for your family on the bridge?

[Ben Mandelker]

And then was there a meal on top of the bridge that was happening?

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, I cooked an entirely separate meal for the homeless people. And my husband was like, get in the car. Get in the car right now. But I wouldn't, because you gotta pay it forward. And the way I pay it forward is I drive under freeways, I pull out a George Foreman grill and get some hot dogs going, and I speed the fuck out of there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why did I feel like this story was not true or was embellished? Something about it just was too self serving.

[Ronnie Karam]

Pulled up under the freeway and started cooking for the hungry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, did you bring a grill? She also makes it sound like it was spontaneous. Like she just pulled over and started cooking. And her husband's like, no, get back in the car. The implication is they were growing somewhere. They were going off to the mall or something. And she's like, wait, I have to cook a meal. Was there. Was there like a homeless encampment coming on?

[Ronnie Karam]

Get me out of this car right now. Get the Foreman out of the. Out of the trunk. I'm cooking right now for these homeless people.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I just did not believe this. And like, I would love to be proven wrong. Show the photos. That would be one. And then I'll be like, you know what? That's great. I will eat my words just the way the people ate your food. But until then, I'm sorry, this just sounds like the biggest crock of shit. Like, no, you didn't pull over under the road, under the bypass and cooked a meal for everyone.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then her husband didn't even know she was gonna do it. That's the best part. Get back in the car. What are you doing?

[Ben Mandelker]

That meant that she was driving around with ingredients and cooking materials and potentially a grill. Or maybe she used some open fire that was already happening. But I don't. I just don't slip, open fire.

[Ronnie Karam]

She just already used the trash. The trash fire or whatever the.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, maybe she was coming back from Costco, and she was like, you know what?

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm sorry. I don't know what. It was so funny. So now we enter the part where every housewife has to prove how charitable they are, because it's like a charity episode, and that's a big part of Housewives, so. Or it used to be, anyway. So they're like, well, I'm charitable. Oh, God, I just love giving stuff away. Housefuls of stuff. Just stuff. So much stuff. God, just last week I gave away so much stuff. I gave away so much last week. I hope I have enough left this week to give away a lot of stuff.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Cynthia donated stuff. And she was like, it was important for me to go and walk down the aisle and pick out all my supplies. So she shows up, and then someone arrives.

[Ronnie Karam]

She had Peter in a box. They're like, this is not. You can't give this away. She's like, please, just take him. Thank you. He's going to jail soon. Just.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's his big ploy to get out of the country. He's like, wrap me up. Make it seem like I'm. Supplies. Good as brew. She's like, here. Surplus from Peter's brew. Just a bunch of beans. But, like, Peter's. Like, Peter has, like, a straw that's poking out above the beans so he can breathe. But he's really being smuggled out of the country.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, it's like some expired Peters brew fucking pods. Or like, Chihil Books. Like a whole box of. Just leftover copies of Chaill.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And then Drew sent someone to give something. And then Portia says, like, I'm very philanthropic, so I definitely have sent in a donation, which means that she did not give to this drive, but maybe she cut a check to the organization. But basically, she sent a wig.

[Ronnie Karam]

She sent an old discarded wig. Like, she snatched off a borrowed wig from Lauren and put it in an envelope.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I hope that Dennis sent some hot dogs, for crying out loud.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

And then we get my favorite part of it all.

[Ben Mandelker]

The shame.

[Ronnie Karam]

The shame of Brit showing up and being like, guys, it's been so hard. I had the worst experience with my party planner and so I brought some toilet paper and they're like, you just brought toilet paper?

[Ben Mandelker]

She brought like, she got brought like one or two of the four packs, it wasn't even like one of those big old things that you have to put like a handle on out of Target. It was literally. She just went to CVS and found one. And she's such a liar. She's like, girl, I have so much stuff, but I couldn't carry everything in the car, so I'm just gonna have somebody send it later. I'm like, you mean. So that four pack of toilet paper took up too much room in the back seat. Oh, okay. And she even put it. She put it in a box to make it seem like it was more than it was. But they opened up the box and.

[Ronnie Karam]

They totally called her out on it. They just opened it and Shami was like, I see what you're doing. This is bare naked or whatever. The boxes are bare naked.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Brit, by the way. And Brit said, I got a text from Shamir and like, it was late notice that she wanted us to donate, so I got as much as I could. She was like implying that, like, because Shamia told them so late, she couldn't donate more. Like, you're in your house, you just go around, you find some stuff. You can always find something to donate.

[Ronnie Karam]

Always go to Drew's house. She'll have. Cause Drew didn't bring shit either. You know, Drew brought like a pop Tart. Drew's like, here, here's a half eaten pop Tart and a ring cam I stole out of Ralph's basement.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know she should have donated Ralph's keyboard. I was about to see what it does.

[Ronnie Karam]

Even the needy people are like, I'm not taking this boombox. What the hell do I look like? Give me a purse.

[Ben Mandelker]

Gosh. Yeah, Brit is. You know, one thing that we talked about a few weeks ago was when they went to Nashville and there was like some. Some focus on the fact that Kelly arranged for Brit to get like some glam done by her. By Paris, her. Her person. We were like, this felt like it was setting up for some sort of. Some sort of issue with Brit being cheap or not paying something and then just sort of went away. But it looks like next week, according to the previews, it looks like the focus is coming back to. To Brit basically being cheap and not paying for shit.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So I'm really excited on this front.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, good. Yeah, that's a little thread. They'll pick it up.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm hoping it ties back to. Ties back to Paris. I'm hoping.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, Paris. Yeah. Paris seems like way worse than we've seen so far. So I'D like to see the full Paris effect. Yeah, Like, Paris put her in. I'm assuming it was Paris that put Kelly in that outfit that she wore to Watch what Happens Live. But that's the same outfit that Phaedra wears in the opening of this show. And I'm so embarrassed because I feel like. Did it first. If it was. I mean, it should have. It would have already been filmed. Right?

[Ben Mandelker]

So, yeah, I was. It would have been filmed. And so when you see that Kelly actually wore that. That outfit on Watch what Happens Live, it's like, really. Because it's such a. Such a really striking look for the opening, for Phaedra's look. So the fact that she would try to kind of, like, do it first, I'm like, where did that come from?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why did she even do that?

[Ronnie Karam]

And I was like, if I lived in Atlanta, I would look out and see if there was a head rolling down the street. Like, a head with a Kate Gosselin haircut. And it's just like, Paris's head rolling down the street. Like, I'm sorry, girl. I'm sorry, girl, because you deserve it, girl. That was terrible. That was embarrassing. So then we get. We're talking about going to Grenada. And, you know, it's one of those, like, we are girls. And so we're gonna reset. Reset and renew. Because that's what this friend group needs.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that's like. That's always the most hilarious thing that they do before a trip on every single Real Housewives show. Being like, there's been a lot of tension, so we're gonna go on a group trip, and we're just gonna reset and be friends. I'm like, we're. I think next year we might be hitting, like, year 20 of the real Housewives. I'm not sure. Has the vacation ever healed anyone? Have we ever seen any healing literal? Never. Maybe the closest. That one boring vacation, I think, in Greece where Cynthia made them, like, cast things into the water. But generally speaking, no healing on these things. Yeah, no healing.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is not a show for healing. Okay? So healing your off season. That's what I say. So Shamia's like, okay, you know, me and Portia had a discussion, and now we're getting along great. Cause, you know, we kind of fought in a tea shop. But then I think Portia took five T's to go or the food. Portia's like, we are done here. I will take that food to go. And she just keeps eating it. They're taking the plate away, and she's like, grabbing food as it leaves. I'll take hers too. I'll take hers too.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And then Shia comes out, and she announces that, like, after this one, then that's the last box. And they're like, yay, Shia. So speaking of tea, now, we go to Portia and Drew going to a coffee shop to also have tea. And Portia walks in, and Drew is wearing this blonde wig. And so Portia's like, oh, I didn't recognize you from the back. Which it turns out that was, like, her little jab, because Drew is, like, not wearing goat naked hair. Like, apparently, she's supposed to be but not supposed to be at the same time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I think she. She quit doing it. And Portia was trying to shade her wig. She's like, that's not gonaked hair. But the producer's like, well, actually, she said it was because we saw Drew post on Instagram and tagged go naked hair. And she's like, then it must be a mixture. Must be a mixture. She's calling her own wigs trash. Like, she's self burning, basically. So then they order tea, and this is all to have peace before the trip, right? So Drew has already ordered a tea, so she gets her tea. And then Portia asks what tea they have, and the lady's like, we've got this tea, that tea. We've got some with ginger and turmeric. And then Drew's like, oh, my God, I need the ginger and turmeric too, because this is free. So just please bring me a ginger and turmeric. Because I have vocal cords. I'm a very serious singer now. I'm basically Celine, so please get me some turmeric.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm losing my voice. I've been doing backup singing for Candace again, so I've been doing a lot of. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And she just. She says it, like, 10 times in the scene. Like, oh, are you sure you don't have the turmeric? Because my voice. I'm a singer. Very, very big singer. Huge. Oh, I can barely talk now. Is the air on? Porcupine, porcupine, porcupine, porcupine, porcupine Red lorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yellow lorry they're at Lori yellow Laurie. She's like, sorry, I have to keep my instrument fresh because it is paying for your daughter's college. So Drew's like, well, I'm. I'm. You know, I'm gonna have an album release showcase, and I don't even know if you know, but I did sign my deal with Dennis. I'm like, what is happening? Are they working together? Are they not working together? I can't figure this out anymore.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, now they're working together again because. Well, last week she had this thing where she's like, okay, we're going to my record signing today. Okay, well, we know what her record company is. So I was like, what's this thing gonna be? How's she gonna be signing for her record? But she goes to some office with her lawyer, and then she calls Dennis before they sign the deal so that Dennis can apologize to her. So Dennis apologizes. He's like, I never made it seem that way. I don't know what Portia's thinking. And so then she's like, oh, my God, I signed my deal with Dennis. So at one minute, she's saying she's gonna sign her deal, like, making it sound like it's a record company. But then it sounded like she was signing a deal through the lawyer for Dennis to produce the music for her. So I don't. Fucking Drew lies so much. I don't know what the hell's going on.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's really hard to follow, except just. Still, whenever I get confused, I just say, ben, just remember, you don't have to worry about, like, the nitty gritty about this record deal. Just know that Drew is singing music that was produced by a hot dog salesman. Just always remember that. Make that your guiding light, and you will always be happy. So Portia's basically saying, like, you know, now Portia's decided that the fact that Drew is working with Dennis, like, what with all the things going on in her life, this is. On a scale of 1 to 10, this is just a 2. So she's. For whatever reason, this thing that she was so angry about all season, and she's now dropped it down to a two. And I have to believe that she has recalibrated it, because now she's had her petty moment where she filmed with Ralph a few weeks ago, and now, like, it's even. She did her petty thing, and now she doesn't care. She wants to move on, start a new fight with someone.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Cause this fight's so stupid, and it's way late in the season to still be fighting over this. And I think even Portia's bored. You know, she's like, this isn't even fun. Let's move this along. So this is Bueller, my dog. He is on his way here from Texas. This lady's driving him. I'm so excited. He should be here today. But she sends me these pictures. Does he look like he is being held hostage?

[Ben Mandelker]

I think. I mean, most dogs technically, if they're on a leash, sort of look like that anyway, right? They just want to run free.

[Ronnie Karam]

Get that fucking camera out of my face. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna read your message on camera, okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

He just. He looks. He looks more like when they saved Damian Lewis on the first episode of. Of Homeland, and they were, like, pulled him out of a bunker in Iraq and.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, is it a hero or a terrorist? That's how I'm going to be with.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bueller when he comes home. Has Bueller. Has Bueller been radicalized?

[Ronnie Karam]

Bueller. We're going to have some sensitive conversations without you in the room. I don't know if I can trust you yet.

[Ben Mandelker]

I always. I always hated. On that show. I think we discussed this. I always hated that his. That character's name, like, was Brody. Like, his last name was Brody. Like, his name was, like, Tom Brody or something like that. Not to be confused with Tom Brady, but everyone would call him Brody. I was like, okay, they always call him Brody because that's his last name. But then his wife would call him Brody. I'm like, what? Isn't it weird that you're. You're Brody, too? It always bothered me, like, the whole show. I hated that she always be like Brody.

[Ronnie Karam]

All the things to bother you about Homeland. That's what really stuck in your craw.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, number one was awful.

[Ronnie Karam]

Terrorism and betrayal and cheating and psychological warfare. God, it really bugged me that they called that guy Brody.

[Ben Mandelker]

I didn't like that she called him Brody. Cause you're Brody, too.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, makes sense.

[Ben Mandelker]

I also hated that theme music.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's what got you hung up?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. The theme music was terrible on that show. Drove me absolutely nuts.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, the acid jazz, the whole she's bipolar or whatever. They're like, bipolar people only hear things in acid jazz. The key medicine jazz.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why couldn't they have hired Amy Grant to do it instead? Amy Grant doing the home. The Homeland theme song. It'd be a ballad. It'll be like, thought you were gone, but you came back to me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wait a minute. Is this song about Jesus? Who is this?

[Ben Mandelker]

That's what love can do. They just use that song.

[Ronnie Karam]

Have a time machine. So Portia and Drew are having a tea fight. Basically, Drew's like, ginger and turmeric. And the waiter's like, guess what? We are out. We gave her the last ginger and turmeric. Sorry. So you're gonna have to Pick something else. She goes, oh, no. Oh, no, you don't have ginger and turmeric. But my voice. Listen to it. My voice. And so she's like, okay, ma' am, I'll see if I can make you something. She's whatever you make me, just make it for my voice.

[Ben Mandelker]

Really?

[Ronnie Karam]

And then she goes, not. She goes, no, I'm not buying tea. And then. So she brings her tea, and she's like, okay, and now Drew. Drew's cheap ass has two free teas in front of her. And so she's like, what is this one? They're like, black tea. She's like, no.

[Ben Mandelker]

I really need it for my voice. You know, I was really needed to tell me with my. My vocal cords. Drew, the tea is not going to help at this point, okay? The ship has sailed. Okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So turmeric doesn't help tone.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's right. That's right.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Portia. So they're. They're talking about Dennis a little bit, and then it goes south pretty quickly. Portia's like, you know, I was upset. I could have communicated better. But, you know, I. I know that you were supposed to be promoting your music on the show, and he said he wanted to clear his name, so I know that he did that with you on camera. But, you know, like. Like, you're romantically linked. And she's like, what? And she goes, well, I mean, it's there. It's not like I did it. It's there like you're romantically linked now. She's like, that makes me feel very uncomfortable, both vocally and psychologically, because it's just not. It's not real. It's not, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but at the end of the day, you get ginger for turmeric. And you mentioned me filming with Dennis, and, like, we're here to clear the air about that, and, like, you've been filming with Ralph, you know? And so then they show a clip of that, and. And Portia is like, no, no. I came to meet Jamia, and Jamia was already meeting with Ralph, which is like, yeah. You knew Ralph was gonna be there.

[Ronnie Karam]

Of course. What a coincidence. Wow. I just got there so quick, you know, with all the camera crews and the. The call sheets didn't. Had no idea. No idea.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Portia, who is always fond of walking out of a scene. I mean, she's been doing this for years. She will walk out of a scene if she doesn't want to do it anymore. She did not turn around when she saw Ralph. She did not say oh, this is wrong. Okay? Because, you know, I mean, she. She walked out of Kenya's spa day or whatever. Her. Her big flame out, so she'll walk out if she feels like something is wrong, but she definitely stayed. Stayed and sat and got that meal with Ralph.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Because, yeah, she even walks out of the scene. So, yeah, I think you're right. So Drew's like, I'm listening to you. I want to give you the floor. And so Portia's like, well, you know, Dennis just wanted to make it clear that I'm not the one. And, you know, she's got somebody else in the first place. You know, that guy Black. And she's like, black? You mean my friend? She's like, oh, yeah, your friend. Your friend Black. Really?

[Ben Mandelker]

Black.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're dating black. Admit that you're dating black. And she's like, what about you in Future? She's like, how dare you. How dare you say I'm dating Future? It's Shannon Beador.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, was that. What.

[Ronnie Karam]

Dare you accuse me of dating Future? Future the Pearl?

[Ben Mandelker]

Is that. What the. I didn't realize that was the name that they were bleeping out. I love that. I figured it had to be somewhat important. Important, because, like, Black. Well. Well, with Black, they blurred out his face. Right. They showed a picture with Dennis and. And Drew and Black. Right. And. Or was the guy who I thought was Dennis was that Black?

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't remember who they were blocking out of there, but they said black, but then they wouldn't say Future. But, yeah, there were roommates that she was dating Future. Simon had suspicions of Portia sleeping with Future during their marriage. Don't.

[Ben Mandelker]

Future is hot. I. I'm. I'm gonna support Portia leaving Simon or having an affair with Future over Simon, because one.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, an old man's never gonna like the term future anyway.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, that's.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's in our nature. Like, our future is not bright.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, goodness.

[Ronnie Karam]

Now they're getting mad at each other about who they're accusing each other of dating, because neither one of them wants this on tv. But Portia's like, you're dating somebody. And then Drew's like, okay, well, then you're dating somebody. So now it's a who can be faker on TV and hide their boyfriend the best. So Drew's like, I'm not going to jeopardize my future with my kids to start dating. I'm not going to do that. And Portia's like, well, people. Married people date all the time, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

And, yeah, And. And. But Drew is like, no, I'm in a very messy divorce, and you don't understand. It's very tricky. And, you know, like, you know, so I don't really need the smoke for me, when it isn't real, okay? Because that's the elephant in the room. Portia's like, okay. She's like, okay, I'm not gonna argue with you, Drew. I'm really not. She's like, well, she's like, no. No one's arguing. We're just two grown women having discussions and me accusing you of dating future, Which. Which, by the way, of course, like, you know, this is so true in Portia because, like, Portia's rumor is that she's linked to, like, a music superstar, and Drew's is like, she's just some random dude. Like, Drew's, like, doing music with hot dog hot dog makers, and she doesn't even. Her rumors are low rent.

[Ronnie Karam]

Get better rumors. So then the waiter comes back, and they're like, okay, ma' am, we finally got you a tea we think you're gonna like. Here's your black tea. She's like, no. Come on. So Portia walks out of the scene, and she's like, I'm not doing this. I've never even met Bleep. I'm not dating anybody. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing that. Future. Future. Future. No. How dare you? So she leaves, and that's just another Portia walking out. And Drew just keeps talking over Portia. And I don't know. It's silly, but it was still fun to watch Dru pretending she's Celine Dion trying to get the property made. My week early, I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Not that she had any sort of singing gigs on the horizon. And I also thought she finished recording her album. I'm not sure. So, like, why are you. What is happening here that you need to save your vocal cords for? You're also going to Grenada. So commercials.

[Ronnie Karam]

Here comes one right now.

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At 24, I lost my narrative. Or rather, it was stolen from me. And the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes, and politics. I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately, ultimately, you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks, both recognizable and unrecognizable names, about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaiming and feel like they filled their tank up, they connected with the people that I'm talking to and leave with maybe some nuggets that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad free right now by joining Wondery in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

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Every big moment starts with a big dream. But what happens when that big dream turns out to be a big flop? From Wondery and Ill Media, I'm Misha Brown, and this. This is the big flop. Every week, comedians join me to chronicle the biggest flubs, fails and blunders of all time. Like quibbing.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's kind of like when you give yourself your own nickname and you try to get other people to do it.

[C]

And the 2019 movie adaptation of Cats.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, if I'm watching the dancing and I'm noticing the feet aren't touching the ground, there's something wrong with the movie.

[C]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Now it's time to pack. Everyone's packing. So we see Brit and she's talking to Mimosa, still trying to make Mimosa happen.

[Ronnie Karam]

And she's like, I'm not leaving you Mimosa.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, if you hop in the suitcase, we're gonna go together.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then Shamia's mom is over at her house and she's like, don't forget to carry your Bible with you. It's always good to have your Bible. Just in case. Don't forget we're good people. We carry Bibles in our suitcases and. And some Salisbury stakes in case we see poor people under a bridge.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just in case. And Shamia's like, you know what? You're right. Nothing like a good rebirth of Christ washing the sins away.

[Ronnie Karam]

Then we go to Ashley and I mean, Angela and Amari. Amari. And they're in one of her houses that's not selling. I feel so bad for her with these houses that aren't selling. Like every time we see one, she's like, I don't know why this isn't selling. We bought it for 300,000 and I'm selling it for $18 million. I mean, I just don't get it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Do you think that maybe I Should get rid of the portal from portal to hell that's in the closet that took a little blonde girl. It's like, mom, that's Poltergeist. No. What happened here, too.

[Ronnie Karam]

You need to stop letting your husband show those houses because, you know, he's just like, here's where we make Brussels sprouts. That's the whole house. Get the fuck out.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know.

[Ronnie Karam]

Deserve this house. Get the fuck out of here.

[Ben Mandelker]

But it is refreshing, I think I've seen a lot of people online saying how refreshing it is that Angela is not. She's not hiding away from how much debt she's in because Amari. And just in general, she's, like, refreshed. Much, like, very honest about it, because Amar is like, well, mom, what would be your overall, you know, average? What would be your rating for this house so far? And most housewives would say, well, this is an A plus property, right? America? Angela goes, it's an F.

[Ronnie Karam]

This sucks. So then we go over to Kelly's, and she's packing, and she's talking to her girls, and she's like, mommy's going on a girls trip, girls. And they're like, mom, how long? Who's taking care of us? What are we doing? Where's Grenada? What's happening? And so their uncle's gonna take them to school, and Uncle Lamont. And then she's like, you can't have him take us to our first day of school. They're gonna think he's dad.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're horrified by this. So Uncle Lamont's not even their real uncle, just, like, a close friend. And so Kelly has to go tell him, like, okay, this is what it is, because you gotta drop these kids off at. Then these kids off at the school, and these kids off at the school. I like Kelly. I'm. I'm going to have to. I'm going to have to politely request that if she gets another season, that we sunset the storylines about her children.

[Ronnie Karam]

Just in general.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's just. Let's. A general note, like, more waffle less children. I just. I do not care about how they get to school. It's not interesting or fascinating. I mean, I know that she's got a terrible custody battle going on or. Or dealing with her ex, and that's terrible. But it's all off camera. So I'm just listening or talking about stuff that happens off camera all season long. And I do feel like she could be a really good housewife. And she started the season really well. But they've just kind of, like, put her in this rut of, like, here I am talking to my daughters again and her dog and all the daughters being like, really, Mom, I don't think I need this anymore. So let's. Let's move on to the waffles. Let's focus on the waffles.

[Ronnie Karam]

Waffles. I want waffle Drama. Yeah. I need to see what's happening. Restaurant. What's going on with construction. Construction. If you start at 100 people.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, the griddle. Did the griddle break the griddle?

[Ronnie Karam]

Did I need to know about the iron. I need to see the remodel. Because, remember, didn't they go to, like, an old Pizza Hut or something? And she's like, oh, I can't wait to use these old parmets on shakers, as, you know, light bulbs or whatever she was gonna do. Like, I want to see that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I will literally watch anything about the waffle as long as I don't have to watch the daughters. And they seem like lovely daughters. It's not. It's not a commentary on the daughters. It's just. It's not interesting television to me. Me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, we do so much medical. Medically impressive stuff these days that I say, just start giving birth to waffles.

[Ben Mandelker]

Now, if you had a storyline about when you have to drop off the waffles at school.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Get his ass there at five in the morning to pick up waffles.

[Ben Mandelker]

Get the waffles. Waffle delivery. Okay?

[Ronnie Karam]

That's how they'd get me to take the kids to school. Ronnie, you can eat this waffle once it's in the school driveway and just tape a waffle to the child's head. I'll be there. Taking a child to wherever you need to go.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll be there. You know, I heard that that song was originally about waffles. I'll be there. But that would also be a good Homeland theme song.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'll be there. Terrorism. The great terrorist.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll be there to protect you. Unless I'm radicalized. The entire song is like, I'll be there, but will I really be there? It's like, radicalized anthem.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Lamont. Uncle Lamont has news, guys. He has FaceTimed the ex husband. And she's like, excuse you. And he's like, yeah, you know, because I'm still friends with him kinda. And I know it's gotten bitter through the divorce, but, you know, we had a good relationship, so I figured it's at least worth a call. And, you know, I said, you and Kelly should Get back in a good place. And he was like, no. And I said, but you should get in a good place for the kids. And he said, no, look. Well, the man's direct, at least.

[Ben Mandelker]

Geez. So, in summary, a person who's not really on the show FaceTimed with someone who's completely not on the show, and they talked about logistics, about some children who are sometimes on the show, and he chose not to. Not to pick up those children.

[Ronnie Karam]

So that was if his only quote was Garcelle Bouvet's no. No. Can't we get along? No.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Kelly is understandably upset because it's like she has to do everything, and it sucks to have this dad. And this guy's a piece of shit. I mean, he's a total piece of shit, like, garbage person. And I will not deny that. And I'm never going to take this guy's side, but I'm just. I think I. You know, like. I don't know, like. Like, what does Bravo want me to do watching some other person talk about talking about this person off camera? I'm like, can we. There's got to be. We got to do something better than this. Kelly deserves better. She's more interesting than what they're giving her.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, my. My jury's still out on that one. I can't tell. I'm not a hater, but I'm. I'm still, like, not. I'm. I'm not as into it.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's. More waffles would change.

[Ronnie Karam]

Waffles. More waffles. Waffles. Waffles are the magic.

[Ben Mandelker]

Waffles. Waffles are magic.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she cries because her ex husband's a piece of shit. So understandable. So then we go to the airport. It's the arriving. It's the arriving at the airport scene. And Portia's actually first, which is crazy. I think that's like a first in Real Housewives of Atlanta history, where Portia's been the first one to arrive somewhere.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, maybe they give her a different time or something like that, but, yeah, they. They go there to that. That hellacious airport, I would like to add. And they all. It's huge.

[Ronnie Karam]

Huge. They with you on purpose in Atlanta. They'll be like, okay, here's your gate. Here's where you're landing and see. So get to your flight in 10 minutes, 30 miles away, and take 10 trains and stop at a Wendy. I'm like, ma' am, what kind of map is this?

[Ben Mandelker]

And they have a crazy shuttle. They have a crazy Shuttle between terminals. You know, you gotta get on that little subway. And as you're approaching the terminal, it's like. Like you're approaching Terminal C. C is for chicken. Terminal C. Terminal B, like biscuit. Terminal B.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, now make your way down through Terminal B. Take the train to Terminal Z. That'll u turn into Terminal 2. We're just going to start numbering them now. Oh, whoops. Oh, sorry, guys. Z is closed. Z is closed. Please take a detour. Not going to tell you what that detour is, but I don't know, maybe you can walk around in a circle with your eyes closed and hope you hit the gate.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, good luck. You are currently at Terminal B for Big Mac. And up next will be Terminal M for mcdlt. And then we have Terminal Q for Quarter Pounder with some cheese. And then Terminal F for filet O fish, Terminal H for hamburger. Terminal C again for cheeseburger. Terminal H, a Happy Meal.

[Ronnie Karam]

Ben's like, what? It's 11:30 and still light outside. Am I in Norway? No, Ben, you're in the food court. Ben. Okay, you took the wrong lap.

[Ben Mandelker]

I never got on the road.

[Ronnie Karam]

It never gets dark in here. Just like Norway. The Sbarro is still lit.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's remarkable how Norway looks. Just like lax. It's like, man, you never got on the plane? No, I'm pretty sure I flew somewhere.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're still at lax. Okay, so Angela meets Phaedra for the first time. Because Phaedra's back.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Karam]

And so Angela seems like she's pretty nice to Phaedra. Phaedra would be wise to be nice to Angela. I think it's a very bad move to start shit with Angela. Like, you need Angela on your side. She's a better age to be friends with. And she will rip these ladies apart with you. And you don't want to start truth bombs with Angela, because if you're trying not to talk about this candy shit, Angela I think will talk about it immediately. Like, I'm surprised she hasn't yet.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah. Cause Angela's like, this is my first time meeting Phaedra, and she seems like she's gonna be a lot of fun. And so I'm willing to put all the things I heard about her in the back of my mind just to get to know her for myself. But then Phaedra says, angela's definitely the oldest looking young woman I've ever met. Hopefully her personality is more young, youthful than her face. I was like, wow, that was. That was a Phaedra Parks. I Mean, it was kind of funny, but I was like, but I love Angela. So I don't know. I don't know. I think you're. I think you're. You're. You're. What is it? You're hitching your ride to the wrong horse on this one.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I do. I think so too. Or hitching your horse to the wrong wagon or whatever. But, yeah, I think she. I think. Of course, that was horrible to say, but I laughed, so I was glad.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, I laughed.

[Ronnie Karam]

At this point, I'm just glad to laugh, Laugh. So I'm still okay. I'm still.

[Ben Mandelker]

Feels good to laugh again.

[Ronnie Karam]

Feels good to laugh again, guys. So Kelly's. I love Phaedra. I love Baby. So, you know, she's like, is she gonna revive a body on vacation? She's a funeral director. Yeah. So that's why I appreciate Phaedra. Because you get like a Phaedra line that you're like, oh, my God, that hurt. But it's also hilarious to a Kelly and then a Shamia. And I'm like, okay, I gotta appreciate the Phaedra.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Shamia is saying, well, this lady wears a lot of hats, and if somebody needs to be bailed out of jail, she's gonna be there to do it. And somebody needs to be framed for something, she'll be there to do it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, that's funny. That was funny. So then we Drew comes and said, I'm so excited to go to the beach. Some of the lace ladies here. I mean, I just don't want drama. I just want rejuvenation.

[Ben Mandelker]

I can't wait for that sea air.

[Ronnie Karam]

Someone close the basement door. Please close the basement door.

[Ben Mandelker]

I thought those were her voice. That was her vocal cord. Warm up.

[Ronnie Karam]

Ginger.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ginger turmeric. Ginger turmeric. Do you know, when I was in. When I was in ninth grade, I was in sleepaway camp. And the. I was in, of course, like the. The play. And the. The drama teacher said that to warm up. He was British. He was like, to warm up your mouth, you have to say red. Red Lori, yellow Lori. Red Lori, yellow Lori. And he said. He said that in America, it's normally red leather, yellow leather, but that in Britain they go, red Lori, yellow Lori, Red Lori, yellow Lori, Red Lori, Redley, yellow.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I can't do those.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think red leather, yellow leather is harder.

[Ronnie Karam]

I can't even do an ad read on this show half the time. I'm a Carla. Red leather. I'm a tongue tied person. My tongue's too big. For that red Lori, yellow Lori shit.

[Ben Mandelker]

By the way, we should bring in Fran to do an ad because you know what? You know who Fran's a big fan of? Quint's. She was like, I got this at Quint's. I was like, fran, oh, hell yeah. We're gonna hire you to do our ads.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Hell yeah. We love some quints over here, Fran.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they have arrived. They did it. They're in Grenad.

[Ronnie Karam]

They are now in Grenada. Shamia's just throwing stakes at people's heads. And Shamia's luggage is gone. It's did not get on the plane. And she's like, I hope the Bible's not in that one.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, no. So somewhere back in Atlanta, there's a suitcase of. Of of mom outfits back there.

[Ronnie Karam]

I feel like Shamia always doesn't have mom outfits. Do you think?

[Ben Mandelker]

Or auntie. They're like, very aunt. I don't know. I just feel like. Like Shamia used to look so youthful and now she dresses so matronly. Have you noticed that? It drives me nuts, Matronly.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, I don't know what kind of matronly people you're around, but she was wearing jeans that were just kind of sewed together with a leather strap that went up her butt last week. I think that's.

[Ben Mandelker]

But your mom doesn't wear that. Maybe it's just the hair. Maybe it's just the hair. Everything's matronly.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, her clothes are gone. Honestly, this whole cast right now could lose their suitcases and I think I would be okay. They could bring in those two people from what not to Wear. Just start with Kelly and work your way around.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that would be great. So, yeah, she doesn't have her bag, which does kind of suck because you're on camera and you're trying. You're, like, excited about your looks. And then she's layering her, like, airplane. Her yellow airplane travel look. And she's just stuck with it. But she's like, look, as long as I have my underwear, I'll be fine. I just don't want to have dirty, crusty underwear.

[Ronnie Karam]

Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one. Of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

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