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Ben Mandelker
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- [03:27]
Ben Mandelker
Who cares what happens when there's so much Feature who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Happens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to watch. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today in the Love Hotel, it's Mr. Ronnie Caram. Hi, Ronnie, how are you?
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Ronnie Karam
Well, hello, Benoons.
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Ben Mandelker
Hi, how are you doing on this fine day? Have you found yourself in Earl the Pearl?
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Ronnie Karam
This afternoon I found myself a Bueller the Dueler. Bueller is here. He just got back from Texas. He took a road trip with a lady named Stacy. Stacy brought him back nice, safe and sound. So he's curled up here at my side. I'm so glad to have my Bueller back in my life. Finally, the love of my life. I found him. Sophie, what do you think of Bueller?
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Ben Mandelker
Is Bueller okay when you criticize him or is that a pain point? Does he eat vegetables?
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Ronnie Karam
Oh, he's used to it. Actually, Bueller does eat vegetables, and that was kind of one of my things. When I watched Shannon have the breakdown if you don't eat vegetables, I was kind of on her side because even Bueller eats a salad. Like Bueller loves a carrot. He loves a tomato. He loves a grape, which is a vegetable. I mean a fruit. But still, like he's, he's a healthy dog. He's very California cuisine coated. That's how we eat in California.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, he he has a few paws up on Earl the Pearl, I have to say, already. So we're talking I love hotel today. We Love island is actually returning this evening. And then we will be talking about the big premiere. The premiere is always a big old episode. And, like, the first 45 minutes of it are people walking slowly into the villa. So we're gonna have a fun time with that. And then we're. We're talking about the whole season. We're gonna. We're gonna talk and talk and Talk on Patreon. Patreon.com Watch what crappens. Every. Every day that we're sitting down here to record, watch what happens. We're gonna start off first by going over to patreon and recording 20 minutes on love Island. We had a lot of fun doing that. I should say this is Love island, usa, because there will be a Love Island UK on, but we are not going to be recapping that. I will probably watch it, though. Anyway. Also, next week, we're going to Seattle. That's, like, next. The second to last show of 2025. I can't believe it's already coming up. That's gonna be at the Neptune Theater. You guys always, always show up at the Neptune. And you guys are a great crowd every single time. We also have our. Our.
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Ronnie Karam
Our.
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Ben Mandelker
Our. Our favorite. Um. What am I trying to say here?
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Ronnie Karam
It's.
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Ben Mandelker
It's a Tuesday morning. We have our favorite. One of our favorite housewives. Real Housewives of Miami is coming back, and we're gonna be recapping it. Yeah, that's gonna be so good. And then the week after that, Los Angeles, we end the whole thing in LA. So go to watch what crappens.com. get your tickets. Join us. Let's party in June. It's Pride Month, so if you don't come, it's honestly homophobic. Sorry. I had to say it. I had to go.
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Ronnie Karam
Stop hating gay people.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So just know that if you don't come to our shows, we know that you're a homophobe now. There, I said it. Now we've said it.
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Ronnie Karam
All right. Little love hoot. Action. I have to ask again. How long is this show? Every week I'm like, how many more episodes are there? Like, how many people are they gonna date? The guys that are there already look exhausted. I don't know how they're still doing this.
- [07:05]
Ben Mandelker
It is kind of curious. I always feel like they're actually always about to wrap up, but then it seems like they're not gonna wrap up. It always feels like they're saying the final checkouts around the corner, but it's been, like, four weeks of it. I. I, like, love this show. I can't tell you how much I love this show. Good.
- [07:21]
Ronnie Karam
But, you know, like, you need to know what's happened. Like, you can't just wake up one day and they're like, oh, it's Christmas today. Like, what the. Like, I have to prepare. Like, I need to know the format. You know what I mean?
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
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Ronnie Karam
I need to know what we're waiting for. Is there gonna be, like, a tent date at the end where they all other. Like, on the Bachelor where they're like, no time. I need to know. I can't just, like, lollygag around a beach with these old people.
- [07:46]
Ben Mandelker
I actually really can. I know. You're saying that was, like, the first time I watched Love Island, I felt the same way, because Love island, it just kind of felt like things just sort of happen. I was like, I don't know. When does the season end? It just sort of goes. People come, people go. There's eliminations, there's twists. And I was like, I guess I'm just along for the ride. So I feel like Love Hotel is kind of taking a page from the same book. I also love Love. I love the way they edit this show. It has this, like, everything slow fades from one scene to another. They're using this fake White lotus music, which always cracks me up that they're trying to imply any sort of intrigue. Every time they cut to, like, Ralph walking along a beach, it's like. I'm like, why?
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Ronnie Karam
That's my favorite one. And then they. They do this thing where now they've just got all these sounds on the synthesizer where they don't even match the theme at all. They'll just be like. Like, is that a slot machine? What are you putting that in there for? You're just using random sounds now. Or they'll be like, was that.
- [08:55]
Ben Mandelker
I know. And also by. This show deserves a huge amount of credit in pop culture for really assembling the strangest group of male suitors we've ever seen on any dating show. Like, if you really sit down and look at who's on this cast, like, is going on. But it's perfect. It's so perfect. Like, I love. Like, you've got James. Who's is James, right? Who's, like, the guy who's, like, obsessed with Luan, but then that guy Mark.
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Ronnie Karam
Who? Mark.
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Ben Mandelker
When he was on the first time, he was like, in, like, a nice shirt and everything. And he looked like he's sort of like a silver fox a little bit. But now they just have him in this weird, like, sweater vest thing that's, like, open and kind of like, in.
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Ronnie Karam
They're doing, like, the Aladdin thing. I think they were gonna bring him in to do, like, on the Bachelor. They brought in. What was his name? Wes. I forget his name. To be the bartender. I should know his name. My God. I recapped.
- [09:47]
Ben Mandelker
He's on the Traders this season.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, he was on the Traders for, like, two episodes. But that guy they brought in just to be the bartender. And so he just kind of talks to everybody. So I thought that's what they were gonna bring in Skinny Santa for. But no, I guess he's supposed to be dating. But he's also dressed like a poo from.
- [10:03]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, why is he dressed like that? And then they're. They're hiding all their. Their microphones and these, like, these brown beaded necklaces. So they all have these necklaces on, which is so funny. And then you got Phil. Who? Phil is just Phil. And then you got Wale, and then Earl the Pearl. It's such a strange group of people, and it just works so sublimely for me.
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Ronnie Karam
And it's such a strange group of people to keep staying. Like, none of them are getting kicked off. I feel like Ralph. On any other show, Ralph would be gone. Ralph, literally, Ralph looks like he just escaped from a hospital with the robe. His robe open and his butt hanging out. Like.
- [10:45]
Ben Mandelker
He, to me, really looks like one of the trolls in Frozen. You know, those, like, stones that come to life in terms of their little trolls? I really feel like that's what Ralph looks like. And I'm like, why are they so attracted? They love him.
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Ronnie Karam
Ralph is just grumpy and exhausted. Every time they talk to Ralph, he's like, well, you know, I got kids. I really enjoy enjoying life. No, you don't, Ralph. You like to sleep and golf. Just say that, okay?
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Ben Mandelker
Don't lie to these people with his lizard tongue. Lizard tongue kissing. And the fact that Wale is actually losing ground to Ralph is just so shocking to me because he's, like. He's, like, really hot. But it just also shows that, like, hot people can only go so far if their personality is not great. And, like, sometimes I really like Wale, but then sometimes I'm like, you're so passive aggressive. Like, you. You need like. So I'm, like, happy that he's getting a comeuppance. But then I'm like. But then he's kind of like. I also understand his frustration. And he is, like, so hot. And he's, like, not getting any love. It's so funny to me. I don't know. It's so weird.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying about his, like, passive aggression. He definitely has that. But he's also got this thing where he's calling Ashley out on her obvious lies and bullshit, because Ashley's just bullshit. And anybody who watches her show knows that this is just Ashley. It's part of her charm. But you can't expect to date someone like Ashley and then change them and have them just say what they're. Say what they mean. Like, she's Ashley. You're not going to change Ashley. You need to. You need to enjoy that. Ashley's kind of full of shit and delusional. That's what's fun.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, she's. She's actually just stringing along Wale at this point, which is why he's frustrated. So I understand his frustration. But then also, then he reacts with, like, passive aggression. And by the way, this is something we see all the time on Love island, which is that, like, there's someone who, if you just. Just act cool, they'll come back to you after they're done kind of, like figuring something out. But it's always the people who don't act cool who just, like, screw up their entire shop at the same time. She is drinking him along because there's just no way she's gonna be able to resist her daddy issues. Like, her daddy issues are baked into her from basically when she was, like, 2 years old. So, like, that's just dating.
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Ronnie Karam
But she's dating Davis, and he's young.
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Ben Mandelker
That's. That's not gonna last because.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, that's just.
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Ben Mandelker
It's just. It's a placeholder before the next daddy. You know, it's the thing, like, when. You know when, like, girls date bad boys, like, like, really toxic men, so then they date, like, a really boring, nice guy to prove that they can. That they're not stuck in a loop, but then they wind up going back to the bad boy. Like, she's just in girls.
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Ronnie Karam
That's what I do. That's totally my move.
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Ben Mandelker
No, I guess everyone does it, but in my mind, I've just had the most experience with girls in my life who've done that. And I'm just like, oh, yeah, I do it.
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Ronnie Karam
I stand against it. I stand against it a lot. When we talk on these shows, but it's mostly projecting because that's what I do. I mean, I just. Yeah, the nice ones are like, oh, gotta wake up for work tomorrow. I'm like, boring. Like, can we talk about how to steal unemployment checks and, like, get drunk at 11? Like, what the hell, bro? You've got so much going for you. Please get out of my house.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And I do like that on this show, the toxic men aren't like, like, wildly toxic. They're just sort of like, casually toxic. They're too old to be. To be like, actively, like. They're like a. They're like a. They're like a volcano that's like a little bit past its prime.
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Ronnie Karam
It's like, well, they're toxic in that way that it's like, it's not going to change. You are what you are by the time you hit a certain age. And I think that they. You just are what you are, you know, and you start. Have you seen people in, like, nursing homes dating? Because, you know, who's those people? Those people are. Okay, those people. A lot of time in nursing homes just with my memaw and stuff. And even my memaw came back to life in there. I mean, she was flirting with people at the buffet. I was like, you go meemaw. She was like, oh, hey. She was doing all that at the little buffet. And people fight. I would hear them arguing, like, having couples arguments all the time. And I don't think they think of them as arguments. It's just like, why are you doing that? You shouldn't do that. Toga. I don't like that. And then that's them dating. You know, you just get to a certain age and you're like, why pretend?
- [14:46]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, well, I guess let's start this recap because we're already. We're just. We're just sitting here babbling. So it's morning at the Love Hotel. So Shannon and Earl are walking together holding hands because they've gotten over some bumps. And Shannon is into Earl again, and she's like, you know, oh, by the way, are there different style boats you have for your lake versus the ocean or. No, I'm. I'm trying to be somewhat interested in your. In your not quite maritime life because it's on a lake. Is it maritime if it's a lake? Yeah.
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Ronnie Karam
You see Shannon, like, slowly breaking down in her head because Shannon hates that her only option is Earl. And anytime she gets another chance to. To jump away from Earl, she tries to. But then Earl's still the only one that'll put up with her. Really? Like, let's be honest. Or that she could see putting up with her. And so you just see her every time she's with him, talking herself into liking Earl. And so now she's trying to see if she would be okay with lake life. We know she won't be. She's just. She's like you. She's like, lakes are gross. Shanna's just like that. And she's like, so, tell me about. Tell me about lake boats. Sorry, is that really a thing? Are they inflatable? I just. I just. Come on, Earl.
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Ben Mandelker
Are there. Are. Are there anything in the lakes that's more exciting than a snapping turtle or. It's just snapping turtles.
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Ronnie Karam
Oh, just.
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Ben Mandelker
Okay. Just that. That's fine.
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Ronnie Karam
Earl's like, well, they're smaller boats, cuz. Lakes are smaller than oceans. She's like, oh, you didn't. You're not educated. Come on, Earl.
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Ben Mandelker
I don't believe that. Oh, got a. I love hearing about the smaller boats that go on lakes. Wow. I. I think I'm definitely in love. So then we go to Ashley talking to her kids, and she's saying that she misses them and everything, and.
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Ronnie Karam
Are you at the pool? Bummer. We miss you way, way. Hopefully you're getting some sun and fun and having some fun in the sun. All right, gotta go. Got some counters to stand on top of. It's like, oh, my God. I can't believe I'm not with my children. Like, I love Ash when she starts crying about how hard it is being a mother. You just left those kids for weeks at a time to date multiple people.
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Ben Mandelker
Ma' Am in paradise. It's so hard. So then some of the men are eating breakfast and talking with Giselle. And Mitch, he's like. Well, he's like, the water is so freaking gorgeous here. I mean, the Sea of Cortez. What have you found out about yourself, if you don't mind sharing? Mitch is the dentist, right?
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Ronnie Karam
No, I think the dentist is Theo. Right? The one who's like, I'm a doctor, and that's why women want to date me, because they think they'll be rich and fabulous. Well, I'm sick of it. I just want someone who's gonna want me for me. I'm like, oh, please.
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Ben Mandelker
Oh, yeah, you're right. That's the ego, I think.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah. Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
Who, like, surprisingly has a very good body. That was a shock to me. I was like, what? Theo have such a good body? This is. This is Disarming. So, yeah, Mitch, imagine he gets his.
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Ronnie Karam
Good body the same way everybody else gets it, by praying. Because there's no other way to do it. God has to really love you.
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Ben Mandelker
God has to love you.
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Ronnie Karam
And don't believe in gyms, okay? I've paid for gyms my whole life. I don't have a good body. I'm muffin topped out, okay? It's prayer. This is Jesus's fault.
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Ben Mandelker
The power of prayer. So Mitch. Mitch is just the other new old guy, right? With the who next week says, I would punch you. So Giselle's like, well, what have I learned since I've been here?
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Ronnie Karam
Ra.
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Ben Mandelker
Well, I didn't know what to expect coming here. Being open to learning and getting to know men that I could potentially be with for the rest of my life. You gotta be ready for that. Da. Which is Giselle's talking about being open and learning to get to know men that she could be with. I'm like, when is that gonna start?
- [18:42]
Ronnie Karam
You're never gonna do that. No one on this show believes you're here for that. So Thea's like, well, you know, since you asked, I did some interesting reading, and black women and white men actually have the lowest divorce rate. And she's like, whoa, Theo is here to stay. I asked him if he would ever date a black woman, and he said he's never dated a. The man did his research. Give me some research. I love some research. Did he research in Bel Air?
- [19:13]
Ben Mandelker
Maybe you should get a library card for the public library of Melee.
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Ronnie Karam
The public Library of Bel Air is a Barnes and Noble that's only open to residents.
- [19:26]
Ben Mandelker
It's a Barnes and Noble behind a gated community door.
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Ronnie Karam
So Barnes and Nobility.
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Ben Mandelker
Different sidewalks leading up to the Barnes and Noble.
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Ronnie Karam
So then she loves that he's doing his research and stuff. So now we go over to Joel, and Joel's like, welcome, Theo. Mitch, welcome back, Mark. Mark, you upping your game? Wow. It's mark 2.0. Get ready, because I don't know that there's a 3.0 in him.
- [20:04]
Ben Mandelker
All right, well, I've got something very excited for you planned. It's a. It's another one on one day, and I'm gonna send you out on a boat excursion. But the bad news is that this is a one on one day, so I'm gonna do your favorite thing, and that's to ask. Is to ask you to ask the gentleman out they'd like to bring on the boat. Blah, blah, blah. Date states. You know what I Have to do. You have to do.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah. So Giselle has already taken Theo, but she wants to. Oh, no, he just got there. I guess she's saying so she wants to get to better. And he's like, yeah, probably because I'm a doctor. And Shannon's gonna take Earl. She's like, well, I. I have nobody left, so I guess I'll take everyone that doesn't want to have sex with the man, but nobody. Okay, I'll take you anyway, Earl. Geez, can't wait to hear how algae spreads.
- [20:52]
Ben Mandelker
Wow. I can't wait to hear about pontoons. I guess I should enjoy this boat ride as it might be the last one I get to sail on on an ocean.
- [21:03]
Ronnie Karam
And Ashley. And Joel loves saying Ashley verse. So he's like, ashley, who amongst the Ashley verse is going to come see Ashley in the Ashley verse? I was like, well, Wally's great, but Ralph hasn't been on a date yet. So Ralph, you want to come on a date with me? And he's like, oh, yeah, shut up with your taxes. Hey, can we. Can we. Can I plan the date? I just want to stand on a lawn and shoot kids with a wiffle ball who dare to step on it. It we do that.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. I think the Ashley verse thing, the first time I heard it, I was like, that's kind of funny and cute. But then it happened like five more times, like, okay, we can retire the Ashley verse.
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Ronnie Karam
So I feel like you're kind of shaming Ashley. I don't even like that word. Slut shaming. I don't. I think you're date shaming Ashley, sir. Calling it an Ashley verse. You're the one bringing all these men on. On, you know, boats or buses from the casino. It's your fault.
- [21:57]
Ben Mandelker
So Ashley explains why she is bringing Ralph on a date. She says someone being a bad kisser could like, could like, correlate to like, being like, bad in bed. And like the first kiss that Ralph and I had, it was just like so sensual. And I just don't know what the difference was there. But I've done. I've done kissing boot camps like I did with my ex husband. And they come and giving lizard and they are exiting, giving a romance novel like. But look how that turned out with Michael. Okay, you can take the lizard out of the tongue, but the tongue. Take the tongue out of the lizard, but the lizard's still in the tongue. The point is this. If it's giving lizard tongue, there's gonna be more lizard in there too. Okay?
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Ronnie Karam
You don't just get a tongue out of the lizard. But then you just got a tongueless lizard. Who's gonna be able to talk to that?
- [22:39]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, there's still lizard. There's more lizard attached to that tongue. Watch out.
- [22:43]
Ronnie Karam
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Ronnie Karam
Are there ridges on Reese's peanut butter cups? Probably so they never slip from her hands. Could you imagine I'd lose it? Luckily, Reese has thought about that.
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Ben Mandelker
Wonder what else they think about.
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Ronnie Karam
Probably chocolate and peanut butter. Speaking of that voice, Luann's like, as much as I've bonded with James, adore James. And James is like, yeah, I feel something real bad coming on right now. You better not say something bad about me. We're boyfriend and girlfriend. I know.
- [23:52]
Ben Mandelker
Well, Mark came all the way back from, I think, I don't know, Arabia. So I just want to go. I figured I should go on a date with him. So you want to go on a date with me, Mark? And Mark is like, yeah. And he just jumps up and he hugs Luann. And Luann tells us. I think that Mark coming back says a lot. It says, hey, I'm not afraid to wear a strange knit vest that I keep open half the time. I think he's really interested in me. I'm tremputatious about it.
- [24:18]
Ronnie Karam
Him.
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Ben Mandelker
And he reminds me a lot of guys I dated in New York. But quite frankly, James is really freaking me out. So I can't believe here where you're.
- [24:28]
Ronnie Karam
Going out on a B. They have like the polar opposite voices. Like, hey, James, I'm sorry, I'm not going to take you on the boat. Like, how dare you?
- [24:40]
Ben Mandelker
How could you do that? L. Oh, man, I love the wind.
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Ronnie Karam
So now it's boat time. And of course, Luann does the it's me. I'm the king of the world. Yeah, near, far, wherever you line are.
- [25:02]
Ben Mandelker
So. And then of course, some someone on a boat goes like, hey, Luann, oh, my God. They know me. They know my music. You're welcome. Girl code. Oh.
- [25:17]
Ronnie Karam
So Giselle is talking to Theo, and the waves are bucking them around, and Theo's like, you know what I think's gonna happen? Let me tell you as a doctor, I think he's going to turn into the waves. He's gonna turn into them. Now, I don't know a thing about boats, but I have been on a boat, and that's what a guy said. They turn into the waves, and Giselle's like, whoa. Research, research boner. I've got a research boner.
- [25:46]
Ben Mandelker
So then they. And guess what? It does calm down. And so they drop anchor, and the captain invites them to go swimming and fool around and whatnot. So they all are. They all start dancing on this boat, except for Shen. And Shen's like, well, dancing. That seems a bit risque if you ask me. I mean, we're on national television.
- [26:06]
Ronnie Karam
Shannon's like, the only person in the world who watched Footloose and was, like, rooting for the mayor or whoever was trying to outline dancing.
- [26:13]
Ben Mandelker
John Lithgow and Diane Wiese were actually very underappreciated. Their stances had more merit than I think people realize.
- [26:22]
Ronnie Karam
I still write Diane Wiest onto every write in ballot that I'm allowed to send in current voting.
- [26:29]
Ben Mandelker
I told my daughters, you're not allowed to watch Footloose, but you can watch the independent production called Foot Tight, which was made in the Ozarks.
- [26:43]
Ronnie Karam
So they're dancing, and Earl's got his shirt open because, you know, Sarah, there's like, another guy or two there with, like, a really good body, and. And their shirts are open, but Earl opens his. And, you know, he's Earl, so he's just got Earl body. And Shannon's like, oh, oh, God. Why is Earl dancing around the boat with his shirt on buttons? We don't do this. Shirt tight. Shirt tight.
- [27:04]
Ben Mandelker
Oh, she was not liking that. And, you know, this is what. Like, what? Earl was sitting there. He's dancing. He's doing, like, a weird, like, shimmy thing. And this, you know, this is what was playing inside his head. Come on, Come on. All right.
- [27:22]
Ronnie Karam
And Shannon is just starting to spiral over this shirt. She's just like, I just. I can't. I can't look at him. And Ashley sees her, so she checks in with her. I'm. I'm. I'm okay. I'm just. It's very difficult because there's a man in front of me with his shirt dancing to Mony moany in his head.
- [27:44]
Ben Mandelker
Is this what they do on the lakes? Please tell me this is not what they do on the lakes. Ash is like, you know, this could be Shannon's life if she does date Earl. Because, like, Earl loves being on his boat. And Luann's like, yeah, it's definitely not what I would want, a boat with Earl. Next, please.
- [28:03]
Ronnie Karam
Well, call me an. But I. I was raised proper, and you don't do that. You button up your shirt. Button it up. Of course, you didn't mind the hot guys doing it because the hot guys were, like, shirtless, and Shannon was fine with that.
- [28:16]
Ben Mandelker
But, yeah, they were all shirtless. And, like, so, like, clearly Earl thought, like, all right, well, I'm gonna do this because I'm gonna live life to the fullest right now. I'm gonna dance with some money. And Shannon's just imagining him doing this on, like, one of those little dinghies through Newport beach. And she's like, I can't have the people see me with this man.
- [28:36]
Ronnie Karam
I have to know that one day I can take my man to the wedding of one of my daughters, and I will not do it. If this is how he dances on the dance floor. Why would you do this?
- [28:52]
Ben Mandelker
So it really was quite a sight, though, Earl doing that dance. It was like nobody did it.
- [28:59]
Ronnie Karam
Nobody sat at home and said, yes. Earl's got a shirt on button. Yeah. Fuck, yeah.
- [29:06]
Ben Mandelker
It was. It was not just the unbuttoned. It was the dancing, too. Like, he was doing some. He was just dancing in a way that, like, was. I don't know what song they were playing, but he was not on the beat, I can just tell you that right now. It was like a weird Elaine Bennis, like, arms going up and to the side in all directions.
- [29:22]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. Bless his heart. So some of the guys jump off the boat. Theo jumps off the boat, and meanwhile, Luann and Mark are getting to know each other better. She's like, how. How's the guy? Like, you still single? Huh? And he's like, well, the lady I dated wanted to have kids.
- [29:40]
Ben Mandelker
Oh, there you go. There you go. How many do you have? 5. You were like, that's a no. You know, I always thought to myself, I was. Would have Victoria Noel sitting in the back seat, and I'd say, you know, there's a third child missing. Just never happened. I hope they don't watch this and think to themselves, they were never enough. Because I wouldn't want them to think that even though it was true.
- [30:02]
Ronnie Karam
I mean, it's a great confession to make to somebody. I've never said it. I've always wanted a missing child.
- [30:09]
Ben Mandelker
I've always wanted a child that wouldn't disappoint me. There, I said it. But, you know, no, Victoria are fine.
- [30:16]
Ronnie Karam
There's no fame like being on the back of a milk carton. And I've just always wanted one of those myself. I just didn't know which one of them I should leave in the grocery store. So that's my story. One of us.
- [30:26]
Ben Mandelker
Sometimes I put. Sometimes I put my disco ball engineer cap on. I just hang it on top of a bottle of rose and say, you're my third child. Now it's fun.
- [30:39]
Ronnie Karam
By morning, it's gone.
- [30:42]
Ben Mandelker
I named it Lauren.
- [30:50]
Ronnie Karam
So Giselle and Shannon and Leo are all talking, or Theo and Giselle's like, so how do you feel that we don't have much more time, Especially Earl over there, who's probably going to be dead by morning because Shannon can't stand to start being on Patunda.
- [31:04]
Ben Mandelker
Theo's like, well, I think I'm just living in the actual moment, for real. Oh, okay. That's interesting.
- [31:10]
Ronnie Karam
That's extremely dangerous because, you know, live in the moment. You do things like, I'm button. You know, Earl said that you were very chill, and I got that vibe from you as well. You're just so confident. You're. You're just so intelligent. Look how your buttons are so smartly in their buttonholes. I. I appreciate that.
- [31:30]
Ben Mandelker
You don't bottom. You don't button your bottom button to your middle buttonhole. That's a nice change from Earl.
- [31:37]
Ronnie Karam
Let me get. Yes. Not a lake person.
- [31:42]
Ben Mandelker
I don't know if you can tell by the way I am twirling my hair like. Like Ariel in the print, the mermaid of the seas, but I. I would. I am sexually attracted to you, Theo. No, you're not looking at me. Okay, that's fine. Back to Earl the pearl.
- [31:59]
Ronnie Karam
So they're talking Theo, and Ashley thinks Theo's very handsome. And Luan's like, well, listen, I'm a nurse, and let me tell you, doctors are just too big, busy. Good lord.
- [32:09]
Ben Mandelker
Who wants a man with a career who's intelligent? I want. Give me a. Give me a. Give me a skinny Santa wearing Aladdin gear. That's what I call hot.
- [32:19]
Ronnie Karam
Have you ever seen a doctor who knows two chords on a guitar that he plays over and over again and makes lyrics like, love hotel. Love hotel. Love hotel. Oh, love hotel. I don't think so.
- [32:33]
Ben Mandelker
So then Ashley, she puts on a gold thong bikini and twirls around for Ralph. And he's like. And he is excited about this.
- [32:42]
Ronnie Karam
He does his Sanford and Son, Elizabeth, which I don't think is a reference she's gonna really get, but, yeah, I think that's what it was.
- [32:50]
Ben Mandelker
I didn't get it. I didn't get it either, because you know what? I never really saw Sanford and Sons because growing up, we had antenna on the TV and we didn't have cable or anything. So the reruns for Sanford and Sons was on a channel that we didn't get in. It was always staticky. So there's like a whole series of shows that just, you know, eluded me. It's very sad. G.I.
- [33:09]
Ronnie Karam
Joe.
- [33:10]
Ben Mandelker
Sesame Street.
- [33:11]
Ronnie Karam
G.I. joe.
- [33:13]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
- [33:13]
Ronnie Karam
G.I.
- [33:14]
Ben Mandelker
Joe was on Channel 11.
- [33:15]
Ronnie Karam
I didn't like that one.
- [33:16]
Ben Mandelker
Good, good.
- [33:17]
Ronnie Karam
I just felt like that was just too straight coded. I feel like that show gay bashed me.
- [33:24]
Ben Mandelker
I always like to show Mask, which is that already in the name? It's. It was about, like, Remember, it was like the GI Joe knockoff where they would have, like, cool things, like a car that would shoot the turn. Like a boat.
- [33:37]
Ronnie Karam
Oh, God. Remember when they had, like, GI Joe, GI Joe Month at McDonald's. And that's what you got in your Happy Meal? Oh, my God. I was like, bring back the Barbie so they could kick the shit out of these GI Joes. I would save them both and just wait. And then I'd have the Barbies team up on the GI Joes and just beat the shit out of them.
- [33:56]
Ben Mandelker
Speaking of Ariel, I will never forget when, in 1989, when we. There was a Little Mermaid Happy Meal tie in. And you got like a little, little. You got a Little Mermaid figurine. I got Ariel. And I remember I brought her to a family trip on Arizona. And then my bedroom had a big bathtub, and I did a bubble bath, and I brought Ariel in there and I played with Ariel. I made her go up and down through the water. It was just like the gayest thing that, like, a little boy could do.
- [34:20]
Ronnie Karam
Oh, fucking Ariel. I mean, I love Little Mermaid, and I didn't, like, hate Ariel or anything, but I was definitely, definitely an octopus kid. Of course, I love.
- [34:29]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, but that's all like, But I, I, it's just what McDonald's gave me, so I had to book.
- [34:35]
Ronnie Karam
Why can't I remember her name?
- [34:37]
Ben Mandelker
Ursula.
- [34:37]
Ronnie Karam
Ursula the sea witch. Yes. I loved her. Yeah.
- [34:40]
Ben Mandelker
No, if I'd gotten Ursula, it would have been a whole different story. But, you know, Listen, you can't control what McDonald's is going to give you in a Happy Meal. And I was given Ariel.
- [34:54]
Ronnie Karam
Take what life gives you. You know what, you guys, listen.
- [34:57]
Ben Mandelker
I feel bad for the one for people who got the seagull.
- [35:00]
Ronnie Karam
Oh, God, the seagull. Yeah, the seagull wasn't a good one. I agree.
- [35:04]
Ben Mandelker
Sorry. Flounder. Decent, I think.
- [35:07]
Ronnie Karam
Flounder. Decent one. Yeah. Flounder's a cutie pie. Why didn't they give us the chef? Le poisson, le poisson How I love le poisson Love to chop and to serve little fish First I cut off their head Then I take off their bones oh, God, I didn't realize how much I love that song. But I really do really love it. And they actually get that from the live. The live action movie. And I'm still not okay with it.
- [35:31]
Ben Mandelker
That's shocking. That's such a famous song, Renee.
- [35:34]
Ronnie Karam
Abu du joie.
- [35:36]
Ben Mandelker
Well, that's terrible. Also, by the way, anyone who got. Sebastian. Not Sebastian. Sebastian.
- [35:42]
Ronnie Karam
The.
- [35:43]
Ben Mandelker
The lobster. No, not Sebastian.
- [35:45]
Ronnie Karam
Sebastian was great. The lobster. Yeah. Or the crab.
- [35:48]
Ben Mandelker
I'm sure that's. That was probably a great one to get for your Happy Meal.
- [35:51]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, that was a good one. But unfortunately, you just got another Ariel.
- [35:55]
Ben Mandelker
Earl.
- [35:56]
Ronnie Karam
So. So then we go to Ashley, and she's like, I have a really physical connection with Ralph. Do you?
- [36:06]
Ben Mandelker
You just said he had a lizard tongue.
- [36:08]
Ronnie Karam
You just kicked him out of your room and lied about having your period to get away from him literally five minutes ago. No, but look, we both been married.
- [36:17]
Ben Mandelker
We both have our children, and, you know, like. Like, we're just, like, looking for, like, what's after that. That. Does that mean I care about Ralph? I mean, it gives me butterflies. That's like the lowest bar. It's like you have children.
- [36:29]
Ronnie Karam
Walk through a grocery store, you see everybody thinking the same things, like, well, I'm married and I have children. What's next? I mean, you. Could any of those people leave Ralph?
- [36:37]
Ben Mandelker
Any of them? Yeah. Seriously. So Giselle sits with Earl. She's like, how are things going with you? Saw you dancing to Mony Mo over there. It was scary. Don't do that again. He's like, wow. I think it's going fantastic. I mean, she's showing affection. And she said, sweetie, for the first time today, which was amazing. And I saw her look at a plate of crudites, and she was about to tell me to eat one, and then she stopped herself. So I think we're in a good place.
- [37:05]
Ronnie Karam
We'll probably get married. I'm gonna name a boat after her. So Mark's talking about how he wants to go love. He wants to go out in New York and do something fun. And Luan's like, the Big Apple. Where are you gonna take me? Minetta Tavern. Go. That's my favorite. I love Minetta Tavern. What a place.
- [37:26]
Ben Mandelker
And, Ralph, where are you going to take me?
- [37:29]
Ronnie Karam
I don't know.
- [37:29]
Ben Mandelker
I was kind of thinking about Golden Corral or maybe Carrows. How. Well, that's. I'm sure as lovely as Minetta Tavern, whatever that is. But, yes, I'm very excited for your lake restaurants.
- [37:44]
Ronnie Karam
Well, Earl has offered to make me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on a pontoon. He said something about Margaritaville.
- [37:54]
Ben Mandelker
I don't know. I know that's a song. Is that also a dining establishment?
- [38:00]
Ronnie Karam
So Mark kisses Luann because they both love the same restaurant. So finally we found out what turns Mark on, and that is a decent appetizer. So they finally make out, because last week she was like, oh, really, Mark? They brought you back. You haven't even kissed me. He's like, really? She goes, yeah. I mean, come on, just lay. What? I mean, he's like, really? She's like, oh, God, I'm gonna poop. I can't even take this. I bought him back for nothing.
- [38:22]
Ben Mandelker
Get him out. You know, Mark did show me that he likes me with his beautiful kiss that he planted on me. There is some chemistry with Mark. We both love Minetta Tavern. Oh, yeah, Manetta Tavern. So good. I'm glad. I'm glad Shannon gave him the key because I want to suss Mark out a little bit more, see what other restaurants like. So maybe he enjoys the Regency on a Wednesday night. I don't know. Just saying. But maybe not. Maybe I won't move so fast with James.
- [38:51]
Ronnie Karam
I might need to take a little break on this one. Hey, Luann, where you going? I like a tavern. Oh, what about.
- [39:01]
Ben Mandelker
What about if I sing songs in the Carlisle Cafe?
- [39:05]
Ronnie Karam
Get out of here, loser.
- [39:09]
Ben Mandelker
So now they're all gathering at the lounge area. So Shannon emerges in her nautical pajamas, and she's like, well, everyone, I walked into the glass. I don't know if you heard, but I guess this is sort of like my life. I see an open door, and I go bounding forward. And it turns out there's a barrier there, a barrier I didn't even see. And I still don't quite understand it, but I have a brief cruise, and I'm disoriented.
- [39:37]
Ronnie Karam
I was walking into the Lounge. And I saw a beautiful version of me, kind of a ghost. I thought, am I dead? Am I dead? Have I died? And I started walking towards myself just to touch my gorgeous face. I ran towards it. It was glass. It was glass. It was not a ghost. It was a reflection.
- [39:53]
Ben Mandelker
Really. The only thing back there that's glass is a wall of glass bricks. Well, I. I thought it was ice cubes. Honestly, I was trying to make myself a cocktail.
- [40:03]
Ronnie Karam
God, you almost made a huge mistake and said, brick house. I want to see Earl dance again, please.
- [40:11]
Ben Mandelker
So I guess no one else walked into the glass. Okay, that's great. So, okay, let's see. You all have men that you're sexually attracted to, and you don't walk into glass windows.
- [40:21]
Ronnie Karam
And I am with Earl, and I.
- [40:23]
Ben Mandelker
Can'T tell the difference between a wall and a window.
- [40:26]
Ronnie Karam
Great. Could maybe someone suggested that bellhop who keeps speaking to us every day. Just cover me in windbags, y' all safe. Save yourselves a lot of time.
- [40:39]
Ben Mandelker
Well, I always wanted a nose job, and I guess I got one free of charge. Is anyone noticing that my nose is touching my cheek now?
- [40:45]
Ronnie Karam
I can't wait to tell my. I can't wait to tell Earl that my nose got a job quicker than he did.
- [40:55]
Ben Mandelker
So Ashley's walking with Wale, and she's like, you want to go to my room? And he's like, yes, finally. So they go up to the room, and then Theo sits down with Phil and Mitch, and he's like, well, that was an adventure for sure. I mean, we're on a boat. It was choppy at first, and I said, don't worry, it's going to be less choppy soon. And then it stopped. It was pretty magical.
- [41:17]
Ronnie Karam
It was crazy. It was life changing, Life changing stuff happening over there. So James is like, I missed you. I missed you, Luanne. She's like, well, I missed you too. But I did have a good time with Mark. I have to say. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. What a great time. And he's like, what a bomber. God. So Mark. Mark felt like he broke through whatever it was, and now he's got something with Luann. Now they're gonna go into the water together.
- [41:46]
Ben Mandelker
Hey, Mark, where are you going? He's like, I'm gonna go to the bar. You want to join? Sure. Maybe I can find my daughter Lauren there. Just look for the bottle of a hat on it. So then Ashley is up in her room, and she's like, sitting with Wale, getting to know Him. And she's like, so now that I've known you for like six days, what's your life like at home? I can't picture it. You're only just finding this out now. He's like, well, I probably wake up at 7:30, but I'm not getting out of bed because I don't get out of bed unless the sun makes me do it. Know, take a shower. I sing in the shower. It's release. And if it's an office day, go to the office. I'll pick up my niece. She'll hang out at my house. I'm like, wale, you really have to maybe put. Let's. Let's maybe put on some charm here. If you're trying to win her back.
- [42:33]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, like, sell it a little bit. I mean, God, yeah. She's like, oh, my God. I love hearing that he has a normal life in Rhode Island. Like, okay, you're not selling it either, really?
- [42:43]
Ben Mandelker
Ashley's not moving to Rhode island anytime soon. She's on a successful show. She doesn't have to relocate to the Real Housewives of Rhode Island.
- [42:50]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, sorry, Dolores. No offense. So then you heard about that, right?
- [42:54]
Ben Mandelker
Yes, I did.
- [42:55]
Ronnie Karam
Oh, my God.
- [42:56]
Ben Mandelker
Is that true? That cannot.
- [42:57]
Ronnie Karam
No, I don't think she's gonna move. I think she's gonna do just like a. She'll probably show up and be like, oh, I know this girl from here. They're all such good friends. Yes. This is what sisterhood is. Okay, bye. You know, and then leave with, you know, everybody's leftovers from the table. She'll put them in some Tupperware, throw them in her purse, and she'll be out of the there.
- [43:15]
Ben Mandelker
I think that's 100% what will happen. It's like when Phaedra appeared on the first season of Dubai. Every big moment starts with a big dream. But what happens when that big dream turns out to be a big flop? From Wondery and Ill Media, I'm Misha Brown, and this is. This is the big Flop. Every week, comedians join me to chronicle the biggest flubs, fails, and blunders of all time.
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
Until Super Mario saved it.
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
You can listen early and ad free right now by joining Wondery Plus. And if this podcast lasts longer than 45 minutes, call your doctor. So Ashley's saying how she can really see Wale being a real partner for her in so many senses of the word. I'm like, I don't know if there's more senses to it, but the more she says that she can see Wale being a real partner for me, the less convinced I am that she. She's attracted to him at all. I'm like, you're just trying to convince yourself at this point.
- [45:40]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. So now they go back to the lounge area and she sits by James, and Wale is like, oh, he was supposed to be holding that with Luann. And she's like, nah, she's out with Mark. Whatever. And as she's like, well, I'm glad you know, I didn't want to have to tell you. He goes, ah, don't worry. She loves me. Luann loves me. I know that. So it's all good. She's just being nice to him.
- [46:02]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And then Luann, meanwhile, Luann and Mark are talking by the bar and she goes, you know, Mark, I do what I want. I'm free. If I want to go to Mineta Tavern, I'll go to fucking Mineta Tavern. But at the same time, if I want to be with somebody, I will be because I'm loyal to the end. That's who I am as a person. A loyal cabaret star.
- [46:26]
Ronnie Karam
Back to Ashley and James, she's like, oh, my God, what If they connect. He's like, well, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I already consider her my girlfriend. So I told her, you're my girlfriend. So what happens if I decided to be with a woman? I'm a serial monogamous cereal.
- [46:41]
Ben Mandelker
Everyone's like, girlfriend. They're all just, like, shocked.
- [46:44]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
- [46:48]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. They're like, what is going on? So James, like, yeah, I know if.
- [46:52]
Ronnie Karam
I want to be with you.
- [46:53]
Ben Mandelker
Look. So I. Look, he was my girlfriend at this moment.
- [46:55]
Ronnie Karam
That's just who it is. That's how it goes.
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Ben Mandelker
And how she's like, damn, okay, whatever. So Luanne's talking to Mark, and she's like, well, when I walk into the room, does your heart go a boopity boop? That's by the way, a lyrics to my new song. It's called scouting.
- [47:18]
Ronnie Karam
It's called scatting. Not in the modern way. So James. James is like, well, she chooses Mark. She's not coming back to me, that's for sure. Because I don't know nobody who wants sloppy seconds. That ain't my deal. I'm no sloppy second second. Wouldn't. Wouldn't she be the sloppy second? Because you. You got laid last week, so wouldn't she be considered sloppy seconds to Mark?
- [47:46]
Ben Mandelker
Yes.
- [47:46]
Ronnie Karam
Didn't they bone last week because they covered the camera and everything?
- [47:50]
Ben Mandelker
She would be sloppy seconds. He's not. Well, also, by James saying, I don't want somebody sloppy seconds. That's like. It's. That's also implying that, like, Mark has chosen Luan and then discarded Luan. It's like, no, Luan is the one in power here. You're the.
- [48:06]
Ronnie Karam
You're the return shirt. Okay? You're the guy. You're the one that she tried on, didn't like, and is now taking back.
- [48:13]
Ben Mandelker
To you are the sloppy seconds.
- [48:16]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. You're the discarded first.
- [48:19]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So Luanne, meanwhile, is getting really close into Mark's face. Luann is so strange when she's courting. I don't feel like we ever really saw this, but she's, like, right up in Mark's face, and she's like.
- [48:46]
Ronnie Karam
Wow, that's sexy. Now it's the return of Joel the bellhop. He's like, hi, everybody. How's the bone? All right, well, we brought a very special group of people in to help ladies make decisions if they're friends and family.
- [49:11]
Ben Mandelker
So Cynthia Bailey comes out for Luann. Cal comes out for Giselle. Adeline and Sophie come out for Shannon. And then Ashley's new gay, who Is has not really been part of Bravo long enough to have his name be remembered, yet he is here as well. I think he made his debut this past season.
- [49:30]
Ronnie Karam
The Chiron's like, random white gay for Ashley, but, yeah, I don't remember him. But she insists that they've been, like, best friends forever. So. Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe we saw him at her.
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Ben Mandelker
We saw him, yeah, like her.
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Ronnie Karam
But, you know, he's not a good gay because he's doing things like, you know what you should do? Open a sportswear line with Giselle and call it gna. So I feel like he's a bad advice gay.
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Ben Mandelker
He was not very impactful for us. So everyone's hugging, everyone's happy. Like, oh, my God, this is so happy. This is so great to see you. And the Shannon's daughters come up to her, and Sophie's like, are you crying, Mom? Don't cry. I'm just. I'm crying because I'm happy to see you. And I'm just a part of the tear that's also thinking about what my life would be like on a lake and how you probably would never visit me if I went there, would you?
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Ronnie Karam
Ever? You're just so young and so beautiful, and you have so many options that aren't named Earl. And it just. I'm just so happy for you. Go ahead. Live your lives.
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Ben Mandelker
Please, please go have fun. Because if you don't, you're gonna wind up with a man named Earl the Pearl who dances with a shirt off to Mony Moni.
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Ronnie Karam
Don't be like me.
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Ben Mandelker
Run, daughters, run.
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Ronnie Karam
I just want you to tell your children one day you had a grandmother, and now she's the lady in the lake. The bottom of the lake, calling out for other women who have no other options to just walk into the lake until they're gone and nobody sees them again.
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Ben Mandelker
Could you imagine getting on a boat and you try to escape the lake, but you can't because you're bound in because it's a lake.
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Ronnie Karam
There's nowhere to go.
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Ben Mandelker
Just in circles. Circles around the snapping turtle. So Joel is like, hi. Okay. Sit with your friends on the couch. Okay. Well, wow. This is very exciting. The bellhop arranged to have all our friends here today. He's like, yeah, well, as you know, your friends are here on a journey to find their happily ever after. Blah, blah, blah. So, hey, Cal, how do you know Giselle? And Cal's like, I was friends with her husband. Ex husband. Yeah. Ex husband. Yeah. It's like, okay, cool. Cynthia Bailey needs No introduction because you're on every show on Bravo right now. Okay, who else is. Is next? These two girls. What's your. What's your deal?
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And so we meet the. The girls, and then Ashley talks about Brandt being such a huge part of her life and all that. So now they have to go on dates, and the guy. The friends and family get to pick the dates, right? So that's what they're gonna do. So now Cal is talking to Theo, and he's like, so, how do you find love in a couple of weeks? Like, that's crazy, right? How are you just like, I'm gonna go on a show and find love. And Leo's like, like, well, you got to put yourself out there, and maybe the universe is kind enough to send you someone who's not just using you for your medical degree and your riches.
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Ben Mandelker
And then Phil walks over, and Giselle's like, cal, this is Phil. And Cal's like, oh, hey, what book have you been reading, Phil? He's like, it's a book about Bel Air.
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Ronnie Karam
Quarterly.
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Ben Mandelker
It wasn't written.
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Ronnie Karam
The sheets are made of gold. So it's a very, very heavy book to read, but it's a good one, Daniel. Still worthy.
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Ben Mandelker
So then Shannon introduces her girls to Earl, and Sophie's like, so, what's the. Like, what's going on? Hi. Hi, Earl. And he's like, hi, there. And then inside, Cal is asking Phil some more question. He's like, so, where are you from? He's like, I'm from Phoenix, which you may recognize as a city that's not inside.
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Ronnie Karam
So you're into fashion? Oh, yes. Very, very much so.
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Ben Mandelker
And then Luann is sitting with Cynthia and James and also Mark, and James is, like, sitting right next to Cynthia, and he's like, really? On top of her. And he's got his hand on Cynthia's back and everything. And Cynthia sort of, like, politely moves his hand, like, off of her and everything. And it's like, he's definitely being too handy.
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Ronnie Karam
He's being weird. Yeah, he is being weird. And so he's like, well, I've been married twice. I've got two daughters. My youngest is 27. You've got a. You've got a disc that might be a little loose, by the way. Okay, you can get your hand off me. Okay.
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Ben Mandelker
That would be great. So then Earl, meanwhile, is telling the girls. He's like, like, well, I have a house in Lawrenceville, Georgia, which is about 30 minutes outside of Atlanta, and I do a lot of fun stuff there. I mean, I got tickets to the Falcons. I also like to try to talk to Falcons that I see in the neighborhood. And you know, I love plays. Oh, God. Hey, have you ever seen the Sisters Rosen Swag? Oh my goodness, what a great play.
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Ronnie Karam
I should call it Arsenic and New Lace. Cuz that never gets old. I'll tell you right now. You know, we got concerts out there. Everyone comes to Lawrenceville, right?
- [54:37]
Ben Mandelker
Music Boyle, Susan. Boy, you ever go to a Susan Boyle concert? God, I nearly lost my composure at that one. A lot of fun that we have in Lawrenceville.
- [54:47]
Ronnie Karam
And Adeline's like, where do you see yourself in 10 years? He's like, ah, you know, I'm either gonna be in or open some geriatric daycare centers. Not really sure. I guess time will tell. Am I right? Wouldn't Shannon be great there? Hey, Shan, you want to work on some geriatric fun time center? Well, that's, that's great. Wow. So now I'm not only going to die in a lake, it's going to be with geriatric people with a view of the lake.
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Ben Mandelker
You know, where I see myself in 10 years, it's hard to say. It all is going to depend on, you know, the financial stability of Red Lobster. If they can pull themselves out of this hole, I'll be right there at the counter eating a cheesy biscuit.
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Ronnie Karam
Well, mom, my daughters have seen it all. They were there when I was married to their father, first of all, and they've been through my entire past relationship with User Boozer and loser John Jansen. So I'm excited to see what their thoughts are about. Earl. Let's see.
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Ben Mandelker
You know, from. For me, I just, I'm always wanting to do more, but it's just I don't have a lot of time. I don't have a lot of time left to do the things that I, that I really want to do. I mean, if I had, if I had my dream, it would be to do a one man play based off of the hit CBS show Criminal Minds. God, that would be a great show.
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Ronnie Karam
Here's an idea I've had. I want to do Moby Dick, but with the music from Oklahoma and set in a lake.
- [56:09]
Ben Mandelker
How about Moby Dick? But instead of Captain Ahab chasing a whale in the ocean, it's someone on a lake trying to scoop up a can that someone threw in there. Just keeps getting away from the little net and they paddle. They're like, let's move the pontoon. But then the can floats a Little bit farther away. It's a captivating story if you think about it.
- [56:30]
Ronnie Karam
So now Cal is still quizzing Phil, and Giselle's like, okay, let's rank things in importance. Food, sex, sleep. And Phil's like, I would say Bel Air.
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Ben Mandelker
H, that's not quite the answer I was looking for. I was going to say sex, sleep, food.
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Ronnie Karam
Sex. No. Well, who chooses sex first?
- [56:59]
Ben Mandelker
Food is number one.
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Ronnie Karam
Food, sleep, sex.
- [57:02]
Ben Mandelker
I think that's it.
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Ronnie Karam
I know everybody wants to seem like 100% sexually viable because especially on these shows, like as people start to age, like, my vagina works, my penis works. You know, like they're very excited. Like, I have sex 20 times a day. No, you don't. Nobody believes it and nobody needs it. It. Okay, you want your food, your sleep, and then you'll sometimes.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, exactly. So Theo's like, well, I could go without sleep. And she was like, no. Wow. Sleep is very important to me. Which apparently Giselle is like. Cal says that she's in bed by 8 o' clock and she's like, no. They're like, okay, 9:30. But I'd never pegged. I never really thought about it either way, to be honest about what time Giselle goes to bed. But she apparently is an early to bed person. Person.
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Ronnie Karam
The best way to live. Best way to live. Early to bed, late to rise. Makes a man poor. Probably not too wise. But well, well rested. Congratulations. You've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.
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Ben Mandelker
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Ben Mandelker
She's our favorite streamer.
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
And Gwen Pentland it's our queen It's.
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
It's always a good time when you're wasting time with Bravo. She ain't no shrimp drinking Violet Coutar we love you guys. If you like, watch what crappens. You can listen ad free right now by joining Wondery in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey at Wondery dotcom survey at 24, I lost my narrative.
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Ben Mandelker
Or rather, it was stolen from me, and the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes, and politics. I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks both recognizable and unrecognizable names about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaimed Claiming and feel like they filled their tank up, they connected with the people that I'm talking to, and leave with maybe some nuggets that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.