#2885 Love Hotel S01E7 Part 2: Hurricane Storms

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #2885: Love Hotel S01E7 Part 2: Hurricane Storms

Released on June 10, 2025 | Hosted by Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam | Wondery

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Introduction

In Episode #2885 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the turbulent events of Season 1, Episode 7 of Bravo’s Love Hotel. This installment, aptly titled "Hurricane Storms," brings emotional chaos and dramatic confrontations to the forefront as the cast navigates personal relationships amidst an impending natural disaster. Ben and Ronnie provide their characteristic blend of praise, ridicule, and insightful commentary, ensuring listeners are both entertained and informed.

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Recap of "Hurricane Storms"

The episode kicks off with escalating tensions among the contestants. Ben sets the stage by highlighting the inherent drama in Love Hotel, emphasizing how the show's setting—a luxury resort—becomes a pressure cooker for emotions.

• Conflict Between James and Mitch

  A significant portion of the episode revolves around the contentious relationship between James and Mitch. Ben notes, “Real Housewives know a thing or two about tension,” drawing parallels to the interpersonal dynamics on Love Hotel. The conflict intensifies when Mitch accuses James of being disrespectful.

  • Ronnie points out: “Nobody gives a better massage than James, so that's all I need, therapist person.” ([03:36])

  • James defiantly states, “I give a great tantric massage. Last eight hours, we come six times.” ([03:45])

  • The tension peaks when Mitch threatens physical confrontation: “I would punch him.” ([04:28])

  Ben interjects with sarcasm, “All right, all right. Please, please don't fight. Don't fight over me.” ([04:33])

• Luann’s Perspective on James’ Behavior

  Luann criticizes James for his overbearing behavior, labeling his actions as "love bombing." Ben summarizes, “Luann's like, he's love bombing. And she's like a. She's like, love Los Alamos. Like, let the bombs go off and test them.” ([05:03])

  This metaphor underscores the intensity and potential explosiveness of James' affections, which Luann finds overwhelming rather than endearing.

• Shannon and Earl’s Struggles Amidst the Hurricane

  The impending hurricane serves as a catalyst for revealing deeper issues between Shannon and Earl. Earl feels neglected as Shannon enjoys her time with other castmates, exacerbating his anxiety about the storm.

  • Shannon's heartbreak is palpable when she texts Earl: “Sweetie, I'm super sweaty and want to see you. Please come to my room.” ([21:35])

  • Earl confronts Shannon about her absence during the crisis: “What did I do? I don't feel like a priority.” ([21:42])

  Ben critiques Earl’s expectations: “I think that's just the moment that he putty on her in that moment. And I just don't think that was fair at all.” ([25:50])

  The hosts discuss the importance of communication in relationships, especially during crises, with Ben emphasizing, “I just don't think that was fair at all.” ([28:35])

• Interactions Among Other Contestants

  Beyond the central conflict, other contestants like Phil, Theo, and Giselle navigate their interactions with varying degrees of success and tension.

  • Phil remains unfazed by the cold baths, boasting, “In Bel Air, the temperatures rarely get above the frigid temperature of 57 degrees. This is nothing for me.” ([08:09])

  • Theo and Giselle display maturity in their relationship, contrasting sharply with the volatility of other pairs. Ronnie remarks, “Feels great.” ([13:38])

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Hosts’ Commentary and Insights

Ben and Ronnie intersperse their recap with humorous takes and critical observations:

• On Earl and Shannon’s Relationship Dynamics

  Ben expresses sympathy for Earl’s frustrations, stating, “He is allowed to be anxious. Absolutely. About his houses.” ([25:50]) Conversely, Ronnie critiques Shannon’s prioritization, noting, “I'm not rooting for Wale. He's a baby.” ([13:16])

• On Communication Breakdown

  The hosts emphasize the fallout from poor communication: “This is not the first time he's. He's a crybaby.” ([28:35]) They argue that better dialogue could have mitigated the rift between Earl and Shannon.

• On Emotional Management During Crises

  Ben discusses the disproportionate emotional responses, “It's just that he is. This is not the first time he's.” ([28:45]) Ronnie adds, “If this was the other way around, if this was Shannon and there was a hurricane...” ([24:17])

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Notable Quotes

• Ben Mandelker ([05:28]): “You can call me Princess Mononoke. Or maybe Princess Mononoti. I don't know. So Luann's like, the audacity.”

• Ronnie Karam ([16:20]): “Yikes. And I just looked it up and it says Helene was the strongest storm to impact Pinellas in 80 years.”

• James ([35:25]): “What did I do? What did I do?”

• Ben Mandelker ([25:50]): “He is allowed to be anxious. Absolutely. About his houses.”

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Conclusions and Takeaways

By the episode’s end, Ben and Ronnie reflect on the intricate web of emotions and relationships exacerbated by the hurricane threat. They underscore the necessity of empathy, effective communication, and emotional resilience in both reality TV scenarios and real-life relationships.

• Empathy in Relationships

  Ben highlights, “But he's allowed to be anxious. Absolutely. About his houses.” ([25:50]) suggesting that understanding and supporting a partner's fears is crucial.

• Importance of Communication

  The recurring theme is the lack of clear communication leading to misunderstandings and hurt feelings. Ronnie emphasizes, “She's not a mind reader. And this is Red Flag.” ([30:07])

• Emotional Resilience

  The hosts advocate for managing emotions constructively, especially during crises, to prevent unnecessary conflicts and foster stronger connections.

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Final Thoughts

Watch What Crappens provides an engaging and insightful recap of Love Hotel’s dramatic episode, blending humor with thoughtful analysis. Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam successfully navigate the show's emotional complexities, offering listeners both entertainment and meaningful reflections on relationship dynamics under pressure.

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Transcript

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[Ben]

Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hello, and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right.

[James]

Back into the recap.

[Ben]

Okay, everyone. Real Housewives know a thing or two about tension. On today's itinerary, I'm giving you the opportunity for a major release. Blah, blah, blah. You're going to the spa.

[Ronnie]

Well, nobody gives a better massage than James, so that's all I need, therapist person.

[Ben]

Well, hopefully James won't be giving the massage.

[James]

I give a great tantric massage. Last eight hours, we come six times.

[Ben]

All right, all right, James. All right.

[James]

Nobody better touch the end because she's my girl. You better tell all them massage therapists to back the hell off. That's my lady.

[Ben]

Marcos, it's painful, you know? I mean, really. I mean, how long do we have to listen to this from him? It's like, well, as long as I have to stare at your sleeveless arms, old man.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, so they're all pissed off because this guy is so fucking annoying. And Mitch is like, your handling is not the way I would handle a woman. And she's like, oh, Mitch, you're missing the point. You said James was disrespectful towards me. And he's like, I would punch him.

[James]

He's like, I would punch him.

[Ben]

And everyone's like, whoa, whoa. While it's like, no one's gonna punch James.

[James]

Like, I would punch him.

[Ben]

All right, all right. Please, please don't fight. Don't fight over me. If I'm smiling, it's only because I'm just so nervous. I'm not turned on by this at all. Not at all. Keep fighting.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So they're like, do you feel stalked by this person who's basically stalking you? She's like, no, I feel like a princess. Princess Di had people following her all the time. Even Princess Kate has people following her in front of her. House to see what she's up to. Of course, I don't feel terr terrible about it. I've waited for this my entire life.

[Ben]

You can call me Princess Mononoke. Or maybe Princess Mononoti. I don't know. So Luann's like, the audacity. Mitch didn't. Didn't respect me. Because if you respect me, you would never say that to me. It's all about respect, and I sing about that, by the way. Respect yourself, because no one else can change your path. Not even you, Mitch. Hear the rest of the lyrics at my cabaret. Coming soon to a bowling alley near you.

[Ronnie]

James, did you know Mark called you a fraud? And he said he wants to punch you? Do something about it, James. What are you gonna do? And he's like, well, I'm just expressing.

[James]

My feelings towards her. I scream it from the.

[Ronnie]

From the top of the mountain.

[James]

Well, as long as she was up there, if she was down the mountain.

[Ronnie]

I'd say, hey, get up to the.

[James]

Top of the mountain, or I'm gonna have to roll down there and get.

[Ronnie]

You, love of my life.

[Ben]

So everyone's like, yeah, he's love bombing.

[James]

Even Shannon's like, that is love bombing.

[Ben]

So Luann says, well, you know what? James gives me so much attention. He's always looking after me. He's always making me safe is an important thing for a woman. Luanna's like, the one person in the world who actually is, like, not satiated with love bombing. She's like, he's love bombing. And she's like a. She's like, love Los Alamos. Like, let the bombs go off and test them. She's like, do it all.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, love. Luann loves a love bomb. And so they're like, but what are you talking about? What are you saying? He makes you feel safe. We're in a resort. Where's the danger? And she's like, everywhere. Especially with you. Therapist person.

[Ben]

Well, and for a woman in general. But I'm gonna send you off to the spa. Thanks, Joel.

[Ronnie]

Thanks for the. Thanks for the PSA there, buddy.

[Ben]

I'm gonna be here alone. Overdosing on beta blockers because that was tough. Well, Joel, you need a massage, too. So hopefully they will offer some spa services for the bellhops.

[Ronnie]

Can we get a massage therapist who knows how to write scripts for television? That'd be great. Poor Joel. We give Joel a lot of shit. But I do feel bad for him. I mean, even the. Every time Love island finishes and I let it play through, it starts the first Episode of Love Hotel. And everyone is like, welcome, everybody, to the love Hotel. I am so excited to welcome my guests here to have an exciting time in the love hotel. I was like, this poor guy. What did he do to deserve this?

[Ben]

He's like, I should be working in feature films by now. Why am I. He's like, I have worked in feature films. Why am I hosting this show?

[Ronnie]

No. So they hate. Everyone still hates James. Okay, so now they go to the spa, and they're in robes, and it's in the parking lot probably as all of these scenes are. And there's an ice bath and a hot bath. And Shannon's like, oh, I want to have an ice.

[James]

Ooh. Oh, Shannon bedor going in the ice. Watch out, boys. This is gonna be cold. Wow. It's finally a time I. I can get into a bath that reminds me of David's emotional behaviors. Cold.

[Ben]

So they get in and then it's.

[James]

Like, oh, my God, it's cold.

[Ben]

And Phil is actually just. He's just in there. This.

[James]

I'm used to this. In Bel Air, the temperatures rarely get above the frigid temperature of 57 degrees. This is nothing for me.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah. Phil doesn't mind it at all. Like, he does this every day. And Giselle's like, phil, are your balls okay? And Theo's like, yeah, I like being a man. I'm not gonna go in there. Thanks. So now James and Luann are in the hot tub, and his hand is between her leg. He's like, finger banging her in the hot tub. What the hell is this?

[Ben]

They're in the corner dry humping. They're like. He's like. She's like, oh, yeah, do me in the hot tub. Let's get by the jet.

[James]

Oh, get by the jet.

[Ben]

Yeah, right here. Put your shirt on.

[James]

But I'm in the hat tub.

[Ben]

I don't care. Show some decorum. Put a shirt on.

[Ronnie]

Call me Diana. Do me, Dodie. Do me. So the guys are still pissed off at watching James. And Mark's like, I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with him. And Ralph's like, he's a child. If you think of him a six or seven year old boy that's not medicated. He's much easier to take.

[Ben]

Then cuts at them seeing love hotel.

[James]

Hanging out at the love hotel.

[Ben]

Love hotel. Love hotel hanging out. Then Ralph and Ashley are flirty, and Wally is watching and he's like, I can't believe I'm in a battle with a 60 year old European man, if I'm being judged right now, I agree. Damn. He's just demoralized.

[Ronnie]

So Shanna's talking to Earl.

[James]

She's like, I'm Earl. Earl, Earl. Did you see the necklace that I wore tonight, girl? Did you? He's like, yes. I mean, what. What about it? It's a lock and key, Earl. Do you see it? Do you see that, Earl? I'm trying not to be critical. Do you see it? It's a locking key, Earl. Do you see? I was.

[Ben]

I was averting my eyes because I was afraid it. It might have been a kohlrabi. I just really can't take on any vegetables right now.

[Ronnie]

I thought that was a broccoli. That was supposed to fit into a mouth. I said, gonna get me this time.

[Ben]

Really? Honestly, very relieved. It's just a lock and key.

[Ronnie]

So am I gonna get the lock?

[James]

No, you're not gonna get the lock. Am I gonna get the key? No, I have the lock and the key.

[Ronnie]

It's very romantic, Shannon.

[James]

I just don't understand why you're not excited.

[Ronnie]

And then we gotta love Hotel. Oh, yeah, Right there. Right there.

[Ben]

So Ashley goes up to Wale, and.

[James]

She'S like, hey, Wale, do you have a second?

[Ben]

He's like, to get out.

[James]

She's like, yeah, you don't want to.

[Ben]

He's like, not really.

[James]

Okay. Excuse me. Okay, that's. That's that.

[Ben]

So she walks away because he's being like. So it's one thing to be like, I don't know what to do anymore, but it's another to just be like. Like, I'm not getting out of the hot tub for you. Like, go get out of the hot tub and talk.

[Ronnie]

He's being an asshole. He's trying to get her to, like, beg him, and it's just not gonna happen. While a.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

Like, they sound Love Hotel. You are not the. You're the contestant trying to win the prize. So while I tells the other guys, he's like, yeah, if I don't want to chat, I don't have to chat. And Giselle's sitting right there, and she's like, oh. And he's like, yeah, you know what? You have enough information. So you have enough information to make a decision. And Giselle is like, well, have you told her that? And he's like, oh, that you have enough information? Well, no, I haven't said it like that.

[Ben]

Well, you should tell her Raw. He's like, okay, I'll say it. So he gets up, and she's like, what's going on? He's like, well, I reached a point where I just feel like you have enough information to make your decision, and I just don't want to play the back and forth. I'm like, wale, that is why you're here. It is a back and forth show that you went on. This is. If you didn't want to do the back and forth, don't come on a dating show. I'm sorry. Yeah, you have to play the game.

[Ronnie]

You're losing your own argument yet again. And while he's being a little wuss. And so he's like, you know, you have enough data to make a decision.

[James]

Okay.

[Ronnie]

Stopping a PlayStation controller. So she's like, are you removing yourself? And he's like, well, I've given enough. You know, I've given enough to this. And she goes, okay, well, if you're already checking out, then you're making the decision for me. And he's like, but I haven't checked out. She goes, but this is you checking out. And he's like, wait a minute. Do I still get free breakfast? No. He's like, no, you're gonna do the show anymore. You don't get to still eat breakfast. While I can I take a bagel to my room? No, you can't.

[Ben]

It's like, okay, well, let me finish up these spa treatments first, and then I'll talk about checking out.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

He's like, this is why we're having difficulties, because you're not actually listening to me. I'm telling you I'm not checking out. And I'm telling you I'm not playing your game. I'm like, yeah, you're saying that, but, like, there's. You're also being passive aggressive, which means that she's trying to figure out what you're really trying to say.

[James]

She's like, it's not a game.

[Ben]

He's exhausting. Like, I really. I was rooting for him. I've been trying to. Trying to root for him because I want her to choose him over Ralph. But, like, he is. He really makes it hard. I think that she should choose neither of them at this point, unfortunately.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'm not rooting for Wale. He's a baby. So baby fragile. Theo and Giselle are talking, and Theo's like, you know, this is easy. We get along, you know, and I'm not looking at it as winning. It's not like, oh, I need to beat Phil. You know, there's no beating. You know? She goes, well, that's How Phil feels. It feels so nice to have two men not. Not fighting over me at all.

[James]

This is.

[Ben]

This is great.

[Ronnie]

Feels great.

[Ben]

I. You know what I love about our romance happening here? Our three way triangle is that I am not interested in either of them. And they don't seem to be interested in me either. So they're not fighting over me, and I'm not fighting for them to fight over me. I love it.

[Ronnie]

So now Earl is excited because he's the only one invited to move in with Shannon. Or with. With a woman, but specifically Shannon. He's like, ah, you know, now she heard.

[James]

She can see me in the raw.

[Ronnie]

I can see her in the raw. Well, keep it clean over Pinellas County.

[Ben]

So he brings his. His little suitcase in and he's like, well, tell me where I should put my stuff.

[James]

Wherever you want, Phil. I mean, I mean, Earl. Anywhere you want.

[Ben]

Well, I might require more than two drawers. Maybe two and a quarter. God, I'm really charming and I can tell that this is the beginning of a great relationship between the two of us.

[Ronnie]

So they sit and eat, and she's like, you're gonna.

[James]

Oh.

[Ronnie]

He's like, you're gonna fall asleep in my arms tonight. We're gonna wake up together.

[James]

It's gonna be amazing.

[Ronnie]

It's gonna be so good.

[James]

Shannon, she's like, oh, gosh. Well, I just want to know, will we make it? Will we not make it? When I'm sleeping with the noise machine? That's a non negotiable. But is he a snorer? Am I gonna wake up and his arm flap is gonna be right over my face like a blanket? Or is he gonna cuddle me right in his elbow? In his elbow nook. How's it gonna go? Is he gonna smell like lake? Am I gonna wake up with algae?

[Ronnie]

So much could happen.

[James]

Earl. I am STD free. Just so you know. He's like, so am I. But unfortunately, I am ETD laden, which.

[Ben]

Is emotional traumatic disease laden.

[James]

So if you're okay with that, I'm.

[Ben]

Gonna have to deal with that.

[James]

I'm STD free. I'm also gluten free. I'm preservative free. I'm basically a kind bar. So I'm also microplastics free. So I prefer it if we could leave your plastic suitcase outside.

[Ronnie]

So she's like, okay, well, I'm gonna.

[James]

Go to dinner with the girls and I'll be back in a few hours. A few hours? A few hours.

[Ben]

Thunderclap, Thunderclap. So the wind gets Bad trees are swaying. And then a news announcer. Within five hours of becoming a stage four hurricane Helene has made landfall in the Big Bend region of Florida, causing a state of emergency. Another report, Hurricane Helene. Hello. This is meteorologist Countess Luan delacept. Hurricane Helene killed 248 people. Maybe if they went to a cabaret, they'd be safe. National Hurricane center report finds leaving a biblical devastation as the death toll climbs to 90.

[Ronnie]

Yikes. And I just looked it up and it says Helene was the strongest storm to impact pinellas in 80 years.

[Ben]

Yeah. Remember it was such a bird.

[Ronnie]

Over two feet higher than the previously recorded at Clearwater Beach. That's crazy. They were.

[Ben]

And they thought it was actually even worse. Remember, like, it was like we're all watching it because it was. It was gonna be like this direct hit. It was gonna be the storm of the century. It was this whole big thing and it was scary.

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[Ben]

So then sha. Now we cut to the real victim of the hurricane, Shannon. So we see her curlers in her hair, crying, sobbing, if you will. And the girls all come in, like.

[James]

Can we come in? What's going on? Oh, my God.

[Ben]

What happened? What happened? Breathe in, breathe out. Okay, here, here's a bongo. Slap on it. Tell me what you're feeling through the bongo. Left hand, right hand. Left hand, right hand. You can puka, puka, puka. Here, I'll show you. What would you do if we ran out of time and we were only friends for a second? Show me a curler and put it in your hair and I swear we'll be friends for life. Oh, I sing cabaret to my friends.

[James]

He told me at 7:30 that he was really tired. And I said, well, we're gonna go to dinner. Why don't you try and get some sleep now? So I went to dinner with the girls.

[Ronnie]

And then the screen ripples and we see iPhone footage of Shannon on a table dancing and partying with Luanne and Giselle spinning around with sparklers in her hands. And everybody's cheering and having a grand old time.

[James]

And he had already moved in. So Earl and I would see each other when I returned to the hotel. Before we went to dinner, I said the following. How is the hurricane? And he said, it didn't hit St. Petersburg, which is good because it's landlocked, so perks for land, right? And it's going towards Tallahassee. And I said, see, I told you. You know, I said, I told you your house is gonna be okay. I told you. Why don't you ever listen to me when I tell you things? So next time maybe you'll try a Vegetable. So he said, yeah, everything's okay. And then I hadn't heard from Earl, and I went and knocked on his door and he didn't answer. And I came home and I read a text, and I'm, like, really bummed that we only have three nights here and I invited you to move in. And where are you? We're supposed to sleep in, fall asleep in each other's arms. And I haven't heard from you all day today. What did I do? What did I do? I don't feel like a priority, Earl. I don't feel like a priority.

[Ronnie]

So we see Shannon's texts. Sweetie, I'm super sweaty and want to see you. Please come to my room. If I'm not there, just go in. We'll be home soon. If you don't wake up, I'll come to your door. All the girls here, it's a bit crazy.

[James]

Bit of miss you and I want to see you. We've only got two nights. Oh, God. One night in 23 hours. Earl, where are you?

[Ronnie]

Earl?

[James]

I'm dying alone here. Earl. You're supposed to be with me. And then. And then one hour ago. Blue, blue, blue, blue, blue, blue. David. David. David. So Earl's like, how are you today? Fine. Well, it's not about you. When I said, how are you today? That was the question that you're supposed to ask me. Huh.

[Ben]

Well, I had a rough day yesterday. I went to bed thinking, a hurricane is coming towards both my houses and we have an opportunity to be together. And you chose to go to a bar.

[James]

When you were texting last night, it.

[Ben]

Was just making landfall in Florida. The video of you dancing on the table and singing. Yeah, well, guess what? You were dancing on my heart in that moment because there was a hurricane in the Florida area.

[James]

Wait a minute. You. You. You. You told me it wasn't going to hit your house?

[Ben]

Well, I said it wasn't going to make landfall there, but it was going to be in Florida, which means that the eye of the hurricane was not going to hit St. Petersburg. So it turns out it would have not hit my house, but it was going to hit nearby houses, so you.

[James]

Should have thought about that. Okay, well, I apologize that I wasn't there for you, but they.

[Ben]

Well, that's not good enough.

[James]

They were playing the Limbo song.

[Ben]

Well, you know what's in limbo?

[James]

My house.

[Ronnie]

And he's like, yeah, I'm getting alerts the entire time the path is in Lawrenceville. I try to be here every time something goes bad. And I'll hold her and we'll get through it. I needed that.

[James]

I needed that last night. Just needed you to hold me. And there you were, dancing on tables.

[Ronnie]

Well, get fucking used to it. Have you heard of a place called the Quiet Woman?

[Ben]

I know. Have you heard of the Trace Amigas? Which is now just Vicky and Shannon, but either way, there could be nuclear.

[Ronnie]

War outside and Shannon will be dancing on a table at the Quiet Woman. That's just what you're getting, sir.

[James]

Okay.

[Ben]

This is so unreasonable of him. I think it's wildly unreasonable for him to want her to just, like, have the initiative to check on this hurricane. If he said to her, I'm really going through it. Can you please come back? I think I really need you right now. I guarantee she would have done it, but he's just expecting her while she's having a fun time with her castmates in this. In this resort, probably. And the fact that the women were all going out together, it probably was like an obligation with the show, etc. The fact that he's doing this, that he's putting this all on her, that he wants her to subvert her own fun time to deal with him while he's in a. In the. In this hotel room, you know, I understand.

[Ronnie]

If this was the other way around, if this was Shannon and there was a hurricane coming towards her house and Earl was out dancing at a bar, Shannon would lose her fucking mind. Especially on the first night that they were together. He's just moving in. She would be there. You know, she would expect him to be there taking care of her. So.

[Ben]

But he's.

[James]

Perhaps.

[Ben]

I still think he should have said something and be like, come back. But also the last note that she left on was him saying, it's not gonna hit my house.

[Ronnie]

Well, look, when you're not somewhere, when it's not happening to you, it's. I mean, there's so many tragedies going on in the world all at one time.

[James]

Time.

[Ronnie]

It's like at the beginning of the show, sometimes we'll talk about whatever's going on in the world and be like, I'm sorry to. Wherever it's being affected, but we don't do it every day. And there's literally stuff going on every day. Like when LA was on fire, you.

[Ben]

Know, I was just about to say the fires.

[Ronnie]

Looking at my ring cam, trying. Because I was in Texas, so I'm, like, looking at the ring cam, trying to see. Because it was like a mile and a half from my house, so I'M like, where is. At one point. So I'm like, where is this? I'm seeing the helicopters. I'm trying to figure it out. My family's just like, is the fire okay? And then they move on. They don't. They don't call you every five seconds. You know what I mean? But to me, it's like this huge thing. But if something is going on in Texas, I'm not necessarily calling them every. It's just kind of normal. But I think when you're in a relationship, quote, unquote. Yeah. Probably being out dancing on tables wasn't great. What I didn't like. It's just. Earl's just being too much like you're. He's just too emotional for this. I think Earl's right in that he has to communicate and be like, I'm really scared, and you need to help me. If he's really that scared, I need somebody to be with. Instead of being like, everything's fine. Well, who cares if I said everything's fine? Why don't you have a news alert for it?

[Ben]

It's like, oh, well, yeah, we can't have two Shannons in this relationship. Okay.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Right.

[Ben]

He is allowed to be anxious. Absolutely. About his houses. A hundred percent. These. This was. This was. This was a hurricane that was making such major news. I mean, it was really. It was like. Like, everything stopped. And this was. Remember, this was like, there were a lot of headlines at the time, and everything stopped for this hurricane. So he has 100%. Like, his feelings are valid, but, like, when he says great news, it looks like, you know, the hurricane is not gonna strike the house. And she says, I'm gonna go out to dinner with my friends. Like, he has an opportunity then to say, you know what? Could you actually stay with me? Because I am really bundled nerves, and I could really use your companionship right now. He could have said that. Or when she sent the dancing. Like, he could have said so many things. But for him to actually expect her after he's basically told her, yeah, looks like. Looks like we have. We avoided disaster. He expects her in the middle of dinner to stop and, like, check in on the hurricane and also know really where he lives and everything, like, that's. I think that's just a bit much. I'm sorry.

[Ronnie]

Well, I think he's just saying, like, something. And also, her reaction to it didn't have to be like, it is. But of course, at Shannon. So he's like, you know, I'm freaking out. I'm getting These alerts and the sing. You dance on tables. She could have just been like, earl, I literally thought it was okay. I'm so sorry. What can we do? Is your house okay? What can we do right now? She does ask, how can I support you? She's freaking the out. She, I didn't know it was.

[James]

You said it was over.

[Ronnie]

She just starts. She starts shannoning out on him. And I think it's just both of them being too emotional. But this could have been fixed by them both just communicating in a normal way.

[Ben]

But they're too, especially him. I'm sorry, this is more you ask me.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, no, I think she's like, she.

[James]

Says, I didn't know, and I thought it was over when you said it wasn't gonna hit. He goes, well, so at the time.

[Ben]

You'Re knocking on my door, it had just hit Florida, and there's a cone going. It's a big cone, a hurricane cone.

[James]

Just like this, right in the dead.

[Ben]

Center of the cone. That's my house. And she's like, well, is your house okay? He's like, no. She goes, well, which house? My house in Georgia. So he's actually upset because it's the Georgia house. The Florida house is okay, but the Georgia house was the one that was in danger. And we, as we all know, that's the house that has the motorcycle in for the stepson to come back to. And she just found the address.

[Ronnie]

So he's like, here's the house next to it. Tore off half the roof or tore off a tree and damaged the roof. And now it looks like a field goal. And so we see photos, and she's like, earl, Earl.

[James]

I said, if it didn't miss your house, you know, I didn't know it.

[Ronnie]

Was headed to Georgia.

[James]

And now that you're having a difficult time, I mean, it's called communication. It's really difficult for me. And he's like, it's not about you.

[Ronnie]

So they have a fight about the community, which, I mean, I agree. It's all about communication. He should have handled this better. But she could have been more sensitive too. That's it. You know, she could.

[Ben]

I, I think that she would have been sensitive. I, I, I 100 believe Shannon if she knew Earl was really going through it about the, that. It's just that he is. This is not the first time he's.

[Ronnie]

He'S, he's a big cry baby.

[Ben]

He's a crybaby. It's not the first time he has hold himself up over some emotional thing. And then he says, well, I got triggered by something or another, and she just can't. She. She. She has put her. Her. She has been in two big relationships where she did not put herself first. And I think she's in a state now of, like, I can't keep, like, putting. Pressing pause on what I'm doing and what I'm liking how. And how I'm enjoying life to make sure a man is feeling okay right now. Now, of course, you want to do that for someone that you really like, but she just.

[Ronnie]

Someone going through a natural disaster. Yeah. I mean, you should.

[James]

But he's.

[Ben]

But he let her know. But he let her know that everything was fine, that she left. Going to that dinner with the idea that, like, hey, everything is fine. And then he's, like, expecting her to understand, like, the trajectory of this hurricane and also where Lawrenceville, Georgia, even is and all that. Like, it's a lot that he put on her in that moment. And I just don't think that was fair at all.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so he's like, well, you know, if you said there were landslides and earthquakes by your house, I would have been thinking about you that whole time until it was over. And I needed to be priority last night, not you.

[James]

And, you know, maybe it's a good.

[Ronnie]

Idea for you to process this and talk again later. Like, oh, God. So that's not the right way, Earl. Not the right way.

[James]

But you didn't. But why didn't you text me and say you didn't check up with me? Like, I've been sitting here all day. What? Say, what did I do? What did I do?

[Ben]

What did I do?

[James]

Back to present.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So then the girls are on, you know, supporting her. So she's like, you're not a mind reader. And this is Red Flag. Red flag. He can't come in here and say that bullshit. So now it's 24 hours until checkout. And Ashley's like, so he's mad that you didn't check in with him. And Shannon's like, well, I didn't know. Big Diet Coke, hands on her head.

[James]

I didn't know.

[Ben]

This is weird. This is weird.

[James]

I am there for you every time, he says.

[Ben]

And you're supposed to know the trajectory of a hurricane.

[James]

Nah, he says. He says, I should have been checking.

[Ben]

She's now fully shaking and trying to, like, dot her eyes with, like, a tissue.

[James]

He said, I should have been checking. Maybe I should have the weather shadow dot com. I'll always go there before I go out.

[Ronnie]

So Earl Giselle's like, well, Earl is doing the most. He wants her to support him. But did he support her DUI anniversary, something I've never even heard of before Shannon decided it's what she needed to do. No, he did not.

[Ben]

And that was true.

[Ronnie]

Like, I understand that she's insane for the request in the first place, but still, she requested it.

[Ben]

And guess what? It's actually a very fair point. Because then we see flashbacks of Shannon celebrating her like one, like, made it through a shitty year of my life thing. And she wanted to celebrate it with Ralph, but not Ralph, but with. With Earl. But Earl wasn't there because he was sulking about being yelled at about vegetables.

[Ronnie]

It's also crazy. So we see that clip today at 11:59.

[James]

It's a one year mark of my DUI, and I shared that with Earl. And I just thought at 11:59 he would go, look where you are now. And I would look at the phone through the bottom of the martini glass.

[Ronnie]

And I would say, was that an earthquake?

[James]

We made it, Me.

[Ben]

Did we just have an earthquake, by the way, in this discussion of natural disasters, or is that just me?

[Ronnie]

Did we?

[Ben]

It probably was me.

[Ronnie]

Who fuck knows? Everything so much is going on in LA right now. It could have been a fucking bomb dropping for all I know. Jesus Christ, this town is in disarray.

[James]

I would like it if Earl to.

[Ronnie]

Pearl would have anything shaking out there.

[Ben]

You notice that thing? Like when earthquake. When small earthquakes happen here in la, like, you just sort of hear that, like, it's not a crunch, it's like you hear just all the walls make that noise. Like.

[Ronnie]

But maybe it wasn't my mic. Isn't Shake usually my mic wobbles because it's not the steadiest mic, as we've learned in this episode. But, yeah, I don't think so.

[Ben]

I'm gonna text Dom. I'll say, was there an earthquake? Or is that just.

[Ronnie]

Just go on Twitter because, you know, everybody will be like, earthquake. Like, I felt.

[James]

Did you feel it?

[Ben]

Did you feel it, Dom? Was there an earthquake? And why did you not come downstairs into the podcast studio? You know, I was going through it down there.

[James]

You're not checking on me, Dom.

[Ronnie]

Okay, so now Ashley's like, well, why wouldn't. Why can't he just be a grown ass man? And so they zip Shannon off up.

[James]

And now she's like, oh, you have a tag on. Get the tag off.

[Ronnie]

So they're, you know, pumping her up and telling her she's beautiful. And Shannon's still like, oh my God.

[James]

I can't keep this. Oh my God.

[Ronnie]

Now we have argument number two.

[James]

I was feeling so good about it.

[Ronnie]

Back to present.

[James]

You don't argue with someone and have these blow ups when you first meet someone. I just, I just, I just, I, I, I, I, I don't see how I can recover with Earl. I just don't see it.

[Ben]

So all the men are gathering in the lounge area for the latest strange meeting. And Earl's like, can we do some shots real quick? And Mark's like, hey, can I ask, how's it going with Shannon? You guys had your first night together, right? She's like, yeah, well we're going to get into that in a bit here because they're coming and I'm not going to talk about this while they're coming. It's just not, it's not cool. It's not cool.

[James]

Carl's Please just have my back. Oh, there he is, sitting on the sofa holding a shot. Oh God, please have my back. Oh God, I will.

[Ronnie]

So the man who greet the women and Joel comes in, he's like, oh God, hugs and kisses. That's a great sign. So I think there are some things we need to talk through before we get to business today. And Ashley's like, well, Joel, we learned.

[James]

Some things about Ashley and I mean, sorry, Shannon and Earl today.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, the ladies talked to Shannon and we kind of want to just hear Earl side.

[Ben]

It's not easy for me to talk about. By the way, an update from my side is that there was no earthquake. It was just probably the air conditioner going on in Ben's house. So just want to give an update to everyone there. But I still would have appreciated some text messages from Shannon Bedore. Anyway, Shannon, you are just an amazing person and you know how I feel about you. And things were going really great for us and I was just really struggling the night before and you guys saw me, you guys saw I had Pinellas county fear all over my face and.

[James]

I didn't, I didn't have my Earl happy face on.

[Ben]

And I felt, well, so weighed down by the storm that was going on. Shannon storms. That is the vegetable agenda. I haven't heard anything about her seeing how, you know, she wasn't asking about how I was doing my houses and the hurricane stuff. So she said, she said, she said, she said it. But I don't remember her saying that. I don't remember her saying that she.

[James]

Checked into my house, that she was.

[Ben]

Happy about my house.

[James]

She never said that. She never said anything about my house. I want to walk out. I want to walk out. I want to walk out right now.

[Ronnie]

When we were hanging out together.

[James]

I literally want to walk out right now. How dare you?

[Ronnie]

My favorite Shannon ism of all time. How dare.

[Ben]

By the way, the build up.

[Ronnie]

Rest, rest, rest, rest, rest, Quarter rest.

[Ben]

The drama with which they treat the situation was so amazing because also when Shannon was like, when they first came onto her crying in her room, they cut to her in like the confessional and they were doing makeup on her and she had this look on her face, like, to tell the truth now, like, like it was some big reveal, like an expose documentary when they do that. But they're like, okay, this person's about to say something important. So let's see them getting their makeup on. They were just.

[James]

I was having margaritas and Earl was worried about a hurricane. Everything went down.

[Ronnie]

Ridiculous.

[Ben]

So funny. What a funny, hilarious show. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

I love this show.

[Ben]

Well, thanks everyone for being here.

[James]

One more episode left of the Love Hotel.

[Ben]

I'm so sad. I love it so much. Thanks for being here and come to our live shows. Watchcrappins.com for your tickets and we will catch you on the next episode of Watch what crappens.

[James]

Bye, everyone.

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