#2888 The Valley S2E09: No Time to ReJax

Summary

Watch What Crappens: Episode #2888 – "The Valley S2E09: No Time to ReJax" Summary

Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Podcast: Watch What Crappens
Release Date: June 11, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode #2888 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the drama-filled Season 2, Episode 9 of Bravo's The Valley, titled "No Time to ReJax." As usual, Ben and Ronnie blend sharp wit with insightful commentary, dissecting the latest twists and turns of their favorite reality TV show. This episode offers both a detailed recap and their unique perspectives on the unfolding events surrounding Jax and the rest of the cast.

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Recap of Main Plot Points

1. Jax’s Return from Rehab

The episode centers around Jax's anticipated return from rehab on the 21st. Ben expresses excitement about being in an audience that shares their disdain for Jax, stating, "It's just our luck that we will be recapping the return of Jax" ([05:07]). Ronnie echoes this sentiment, highlighting the collective frustration as they prepare to confront Jax's latest antics.

2. Jax’s Infamous E-Commerce Ventures

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Jax selling Jennifer Craig tote bags on eBay—a move that irks Brittany. Ben humorously critiques Jax's entrepreneurial missteps: "They are just Jenny Craig tote bags. And I guarantee Jax is like, well, whatever. I don't like looking at them. I'm just gonna sell them." ([08:28]). This subplot underscores Jax's continued struggles to regain stability and respect within the group.

3. Brittany’s Ongoing Divorce Saga

Brittany's tumultuous divorce from Jax serves as a focal point for much of the episode's tension. The hosts discuss her frustration over not receiving the same level of support as Britney, with Ronnie noting, "Brittany needs the cow catcher." ([54:28]). The financial strains exacerbated by Jax's $1.2 million tax debt reveal add another layer of complexity to her situation, as Ben laments, "And so the fact that now he is like, okay, I'm releasing this house to you, and you have to pay off the rest of the mortgage. He's basically saying, you're paying off my $1.2 million of tax debt." ([62:13]).

4. Character Interactions and Conflicts

The episode also highlights various interpersonal conflicts among the cast members. From Janet's discomfort and confrontations with other friends to Danny's drunken outbursts, Ben and Ronnie provide a humorous yet critical analysis of each character's actions. Ronnie remarks on Daniel's behavior: "He knows that he's got to say what he feels as well." ([76:10]).

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Hosts’ Insights and Commentary

Ben and Ronnie infuse their recap with candid opinions and humorous observations:

• On Jax’s Manipulative Behavior:
  Ben criticizes Jax's manipulative tactics, stating, "But, like, Jax crackhead ass selling Jenny Craig bags on me." ([08:31]).
  Ronnie adds, "Anybody who believes one single thing coming out of Jax’s movie mouth, I swear to God." ([37:42]).

• On Brittany’s Resilience:
  Despite the chaos, Ben commends Brittany’s proactive approach in seeking a divorce: "I was really proud that she got this advice. And she was like, despite the fact that she still has feelings for Jax, she knew enough that she needed to do this step for herself." ([64:36]).

• On Group Dynamics:
  The hosts discuss the fractured friendships and alliances, highlighting how jealousy and betrayal permeate the group. Ben comments on Jesse's misplaced anger: "Jesse, you're such a fucking piece of shit." ([78:27]).

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ben Mandelker:
  "Wayfair has everything your home would need during the warm weather season." ([00:46]) – Promotional but sets the tone for their sponsorship integrations.

• Ronnie Karam:
  "I have gorightly get that Jemmy el brand." ([09:24]) – Reflecting their playful banter and focus on detailed plot points.

• Ben Mandelker:
  "Being a Prime subscriber gets you access to a ton of perks." ([01:46]) – Another promotional segment blending into the episode.

• Ronnie Karam:
  "Everyone's business." ([74:38]) – Highlighting Danny's intrusive behavior.

• Ben Mandelker:
  "He's a really scary one." – Discussing Jax's character development ([55:23]).

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Conclusion and Future Episodes

Ben and Ronnie wrap up the episode by teasing their upcoming live show in Los Angeles at the Font Theater, expressing hope to see fans there while humorously wishing Jax would stay away: "None of us want to see his face. He will get kicked out." ([79:57]). They emphasize the ongoing nature of the drama and hint at continued deep dives into Bravo's reality TV narratives.

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Watch What Crappens continues to offer a blend of humor, critique, and insider insights, making it a must-listen for Bravo enthusiasts eager to stay updated on the latest reality TV escapades.

Transcript

[Ben]

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[Ben]

Watch what happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much crap?

[Ronnie]

Well, hello, everybody. Welcome to Watch what crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben. Hi, Ben.

[Ben]

Hi, how are you?

[Ronnie]

Good. Welcome to your Wednesday. How is it?

[Ben]

Thank you.

[Ronnie]

In the life of Benjamin Benjamin Moon.

[Ben]

This Wednesday, Wednesday. What a. What a fun Wednesday it is. I'm gonna be making my trek up to Seattle and. Which I love. Seattle is. Seattle is officially one of the cities I would move to if I weren't living in la. And so I'm always excited when we get to go up there. So I'm really excited for tonight when I get to fly up there. How's it going with you?

[Ronnie]

Good. Yeah, I'm just chilling. I had to go get milk today, so I was very upset. Oh. Because I had to take a shower. Because you can't just go to the grocery store. I had to get all gussied up. Look at me. I just look gorgeous. Do a facial. Go wash myself. And I went to the store and I got some milk. So that's been my day so far. It was really exciting. I saw.

[Ben]

What kind of milk do you get?

[Ronnie]

Whole milk.

[Ben]

What kind of milk?

[Ronnie]

Oat. Did you say oat milk? Whole milk. I'm a whole milk lover. Yeah. Wow. Get that oat milk out of my goddamn face. I think out of all of the milks, oat is the best out of the non milks.

[Ben]

I have grown to love oat milk. I used to hate oat milk for the longest time. But like in the past, like three months, oat milk has come out of nowhere and has really taken over my life. And now I am an oat girly.

[Ronnie]

But I would prefer whole. Okay, everybody, now that we've got our milk preferences out of the way, welcome to the Valley Recap. We are going to be in Seattle tomorrow night to be. To be recapping. To recap, Real Housewives of Miami premier next week, we will be in Los Angeles on June 19th at the Font to theater. To recap this show right here, the Valley. And it's just our luck that we will be recapping the return of Jax.

[Ben]

Oh, God, you're right.

[Ronnie]

So it will be nice to be in an audience full of people hating on Jax together. So if you guys want to just come scream at what a shit face Jax is, join us. Okay. Also, this is a recap video. You can find all of our recaps over on Patreon. Crappin's on Demand, we call it. Also, we're recapping Love island three or four times a week, so go join our Patreon for that good stuff. Just did a really fun one today. You know what? We do them all the time now, so that's that. And I think that's it, right, Ben? Do I need to announce anything else?

[Ben]

I think that's really it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that's it, y' all. Okay, here we go. Season 2, Episode 9 When One Door forecloses, another one forecloses. This is the cast of Vanderpump Rules.

[Ben]

Yeah, those doors. When. When one Door four closes, that means you have no more doors. You're not.

[Ronnie]

There are no more doors.

[Ben]

Repossessed. The door is now at Chase Bank.

[Ronnie]

So we start.

[Ben]

Sorry, the theme song. Terrible theme song.

[Ronnie]

Because we're all right. Because we're all right. None of you are all right. You know, we said it the first episode when we heard this song way back in the day in 2024. We said, no, none of you are all right. And it just becomes more and more true every day. Jasmine and Zach almost died trying to be wacky doing a rollerblading scene. So they're not all right.

[Ben]

They're not all right at all. And then we see Brittany and Gina and Michelle and Jared, and they're at a salon and they're getting their hair done. And Brit is saying that. She's like. She's saying that Jax is getting out of rehab on the 21st, and Janet's like, well, I hope Jack's better in some ways. So that cruise has a good relationship with a better man. Like, yeah, it's. That's not. That's something that's never going to happen. Sorry, Janet. What?

[Ronnie]

She's so annoying. And then Jared sitting there behind them and clutching his little Louis Vuitton purse. I can't with these people. So Britney's like, well, he did to me right now. Let me take that. Okay. You know, he should have been dead to me when he wouldn't give me that noise. Okay. But I'm looking around the house, see if I can find my wedding ring. I don't know where it is. And Janice, like, have you checked his ebay page recently. Meanwhile, Janet's bought all this shit on ebay. You know, Janet has, like, a little closet in the back of that house with all of the shit that Jax has been selling of Britney's underpriced. She's got a fan account. And Britney's like, hey, we're selling my Jenny Craig bag, yo. Okay, so what? She said Jenny Craig Banks.

[Ben]

I thought she had said Jimmy something. It was like. It wasn't quite Jimmy Choo, but it was like, Jimmy. Like Jimmy Crab. Like. Like this really cool Kentucky designer named Jimmy Crab. Hey, those great buy eggs. You can put so much beer cheese in them. I sold them my Jimmy Crab chip bags.

[Ronnie]

But what is she saying? Because our. Our gorgeous note taker, Shelby, wrote Jenny Craig, and then she left us a link. And there is an ebay page that sells Jenny Craig bags, but they're only $10. And it says Jenny Craig believe large blue grocery, insulated Cooper, zippered delivery.

[Ben]

You know what? I 100% believe that Jax would sell these.

[Ronnie]

I think that Jax crackhead ass selling Jenny Craig bags on me.

[Ben]

They're just tote bags. These are just tote bags. They're actually. They look like they're actually pretty nice tote bags, and they're just like these. They're just Jenny Craig tote bags. And I guarantee Jax is like, well, whatever. I don't like looking at them. I'm just gonna sell them. And I know it'll make Brittany mad because she really likes her Jenny Craig tote bags.

[Ronnie]

Well, do you think they were full of the Jenny Craig food that Brittany's supposed to be doing? Because isn't she, like, a Jenny Craig spokesperson or something?

[Ben]

I forget. I thought it was nutrisystem, but I.

[Ronnie]

Thought it was nutrisystem, too.

[Ben]

It's hard.

[Ronnie]

I don't know.

[Ben]

Hard to say.

[Ronnie]

I'm hung up now on this because now I want them to be Jenny Craig bags so bad. I just love that Brittany would have a collection of Jenny Craig bags.

[Ben]

And Brittany goes for, like, $30. I'm not kidding. So at first I thought she meant, like, wow. He was vastly undervalu valuing her like, Jimmy, Jimmy Crab bags that are worth something. And then I was like, why is she not.

[Ronnie]

We are the worst gays in the whole world.

[Ben]

But if they are Jenny Craig tote bags that are worth, like, $5, and if he's selling them for $30, now I understand why they were all laughing. Because it's just, like, so sad and pathetic of Jack and also so typically Jax. That is just so typically Jax. Ooh, baby, baby. Because he would try to make a huge profit off of Shitty to.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, you know what? It's typical of a crackhead. That's what they do. Selling the TV right off the wall. That's what they'll do, though. I sold where's my Fork? I got a plastic fork with my Uber eats. Where did it go? Like, I sold this SARS and ordered it. It's like, God damn it, cousin. Yeah, so sorry. A little personal experience there. So then we go to Kristen and Luke's house. I'm so proud of Kristen. You know what? Kristen has really gone back to her roots. She's actually living in an apartment like they would have lived in on Vanderpump rules and made me happy. I was like, yes, finally. Another rundown, shitty apartment with clothes all over the floor and, you know, it smells like beer rot. Good for you, girl.

[Ben]

Also so impressed. You know, she. She was trying to get pregnant for so long, so many months and years, that I'm so glad that now that she's in her third trimester, that she has been able to be in this third trimester for at least, I think, two and a half years. Like, I am so impressed. Like, she's like, you know what? It took me a long time to get here, so we're gonna stay here long time. Because I can swear Chris has been about to give birth for, like, since January. Right? Am I wrong? She has been so pregnant for so long. She just did another photo shoot where she's like, here I am. Pregnancy photo shoot. I was like, really? She has been pregnant for a long, long time. She is making up for. For all the time she spent not pregnant trying, right?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she's been pregnant for a while and happily pregnant. You know, I'm so proud of her eggs. I thought that's what you were gonna say. Like, I'm so proud of her.

[Ben]

Like, well, I'm proud of her eggs too, but I just think it's so funny. Like, damn. Like, Chris. Every time Chris and Dodie post something on Instagram, I'm like, it finally happened. She had her baby. And so I was like, did another pregnancy photo shoot. I'm just three days away. And it's like, two and a half days away, one day away. I'm like, she. This has been pregnant a long time.

[Ronnie]

Oh, don't worry. She'll be one of those people to post every day after being like, it's been two days since I had this baby. Like, those people who get married and then they keep posting their wedding pictures over and over. They're like, you guys, it's been a rough two weeks because it's been so such a letdown coming off of my wedding. God, I love that wedding. I look so good in this wedding. I've gained 20 pounds since then. It's been two weeks, but it's been a rough two weeks. And then, like, a couple months Later, I've gained 27 pounds now since my wedding. Guys, still happy. That's happiness way, right? And it's like, 10 years later, I've gained 500 pounds. Like, girl, why are you still posting the same picture?

[Ben]

You know. You know, Kristen is going to go hard in the paint for some little plastic letters on a board that says 1 week, 3 weeks, 17 weeks. Every single week, there'll be another picture of the baby with a little board next to it. And Jill's gonna be there on the side being like, you know, I never got this special board when I was a puppy. Woof, woof. Michelle. Jill's basically gonna turn into, like, the Michelle, Michelle Lolly of.

[Ronnie]

Why is nobody giving me a doggy board? I have been here 70,000 weeks.

[Ben]

I have to eat roses that made me have diarrhea last season.

[Ronnie]

I'm completely got off from the sex life of my barons. Somebody helped me. So we go to this. Sorry, it's a shitty little apartment. So we go over there, and then we see Zach coming to the house, and he's like, what up?

[Ben]

It's me, Zach.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, fun guy. I didn't even have brakes on my rollerblades.

[Ben]

Yeah, I did it. I survived. I went. I rollerbladed on Chandler Boulevard and did not get run over.

[Ronnie]

Two weeks since I survived rollerblading.

[Ben]

A little bored band is, like, discussing. Take that off your social media. So they are gonna. They're hosting like, a. A housewarming because they're actually. They're in the house. It may look like an apartment, but they're in a house because they have a house in NoHo, and because it's on the rundown schedule, they have to have a housewarming. But they're not really ready for it. So they still have boxes. And, you know, Steven, throw a damn.

[Ronnie]

Housewarming party with clothes on the floor. There's clothes on the floor, Kristen. There's like, open milk on the countertop. Like, girl, put some stuff away. Throw into a closet like a normal person. But it's Kristen, so she doesn't. She's like, oh, yeah, we're going to sort stuff. But, like, it's good. We're having a moving. And Luke's like, yeah, as well. Ignore some of the mess and enjoy the house. And then we see the piles of crap everywhere.

[Ben]

Yeah. So then Luke's talking to Jesse over by the grill as people come over and is asking if there's any Jesse, if there's anything new on the Michelle front. And Jesse's like, yeah, no, I haven't talked to her or whatever. And. And. And Luke assures him that Michelle's not coming tonight. So Jesse's happy about that. And then meanwhile, Zach's there. So Jenna, we. We have a Jenna gets a moment. Jenna has been trying to have a moment for years in the Vanderpump Rules universe.

[Ronnie]

You know, I've been reading that she's popped up a million times. I don't remember no Jenna, tell me about what she, like, what are her interests?

[Ben]

She's been around. Don't you. Don't you remember my famous story about how I saw Kristen, Jenna and Katie at LA Fitness once and Taye Diggs was there and was talking to them and how, like, Jenna was, like, trying to be, like, in the mix? She was, like, really flinging her hair at two digs.

[Ronnie]

She's never got to television for, like, 10 years. So I get it.

[Ben]

She's like, I'm friends with Kristen Duddy. This was like. This was probably, like, 2016 or something like that.

[Ronnie]

Okay. I've always been Team Glinda. Anyway, you made the right choice.

[Ben]

But Jenna. Yeah, no, Jenna has been popping up. And the fact that you don't remember who Jenna is is exactly. The struggle that Jenna deals with is that she has been trying to make something happen. So she gets some good traction here. Because while Zack first says, jenna and I have been, like, friends since I moved to la, and, you know, we've had so much fun. And, like, of course, I met her through Sheena because she knows, like, Kevin Bacon. Okay? It's always one degree of Sheena Shay. And then the chiron below Sheena says, Sheena goes from Kristen's friend to everybody's friend.

[Ronnie]

It's C shoe bacon. So then we go to Luke, Jesse and Danny talking about a spa day that Danny had. And Jesse's like, well, you went to the spa. What did you get? Like, Botox, bro. And he's like, so guys, get. This wasn't Botox. Hold on for a minute. It was scro talks. All right, Everybody get that Scro talks. Do we understand? Three under three balls in my balls. In my stomach now, the way he describes scrotox. So apparently scrotox is. Zach explains it, and he's like, oh, my God, Scrotox. You know, like, when your balls. He's like, you know, when your balls droop and they look bigger? Like, balls get bigger and balls get smaller. This way they just stay bigger. Is that what scrotox is? I didn't know that. I know. It was. I thought screw talks. Like, major big balls. Smaller.

[Ben]

I never really understood scrotox. To me, it seemed like something that someone invented. And, like, sort of. They created a marketing angle that. Okay, what did you want to hear? Yes.

[Ronnie]

Okay, here's what scrotox does. They put botulism into your scrotum. Okay. First of all, which killed a lot of nuns in nonsense. I don't know if anybody's seen that. It's very dangerous, so it reduces wrinkles and creases. Who wants an unwrinkled nut sack? That would look crazy. Some things should. It's like ironing linen. Some things just shouldn't be ironed. Okay.

[Ben]

Yeah. I was just about to say it's like linen.

[Ronnie]

Enhance scrotal aesthetics. By relaxing the muscles, scrotox can make the scrotum appear tighter, more youthful, and potentially larger. Decrease sweating. Well, that's never bad things, except you'll be sweating out your butthole, because that sweat's going to go somewhere. Your elbows, your butthole, between your toes. Who knows? Improve comfort by relaxing the muscles and reducing sweating, scrotox can alleviate the discomfort and irritation in the scrotal area. So do you have any discomfort in your scrotal area?

[Ben]

No, I think this is because I think, like, the body. The body does things because the body is. We've evolved that way. And I think that, like, balls go up and down depending on if it's hot or cold. And I think it's like. I think if my balls are cold, I think I want them to come up to the mothership. You know, I want.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, you don't want them just dangling down there and getting freezing. It's like refusing to put a sweater on your child. Like, why would you do that?

[Ben]

Yeah. I also feel like I don't want to increase the risk that I might, like, twist my legs in a certain way and, like, my poor dangling balls are gonna get caught in the. In the. In the madness there. Like, I think, let the balls go up and down. Also, it's cool to have a ball elevator. I think, like, what a fun thing that we have. Like, why would we just like, have something dangling, you know?

[Ronnie]

Yeah. At least some parts of my body are lifting something. It's like, oh, do it.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Ronnie]

I don't know, I've just never heard of a guy who wants, like, big, dangly balls on purpose.

[Ben]

I. I think that if you are really concerned about the aesthetic of your balls, chances are you probably don't have a big dick because you need to. You're trying to, like, supplement it. Or I should say you're insecure about it because who cares if you have a big dick or not? I mean, like, obviously we like big dicks, but, like, just because someone has a small dick doesn't mean that they're any less worthy. But I think that someone who's insecure about their dick is like, well, I gotta, like, I'm not doing. I'm not really. Like, I'm not doing my 11 o' clock number with my dick, so I gotta, like, supplement that with some nice, smooth, dangling balls. Like.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, well. And also, well, maybe people have, you know, like, when people do. What is that called? When you like, Jack stuff? Not coke, but the other thing he does, roids. So like, when, you know, roid balls are, like, really tight, little, like, they go away. You're like, where'd the nuts go? So maybe guys like me.

[Ben]

Yeah, that. Maybe that's what it is. That's probably.

[Ronnie]

I don't know. Well, I haven't thought about balls this much in a long time, so. Thanks. Show. I've been educated. Thanks, Joe. Thanks. So let me go to talking about screw talks, which we're done now. So then Danny, everyone's like, I'm not gonna do that. But Zach we see getting his scrotox injections, which I think is hilarious. I think it's so funny that Zach's.

[Ben]

Like, you know what?

[Ronnie]

I'm doing. Screw talks. Need to do it. Upkeep the balls for Benji.

[Ben]

You know, I really enjoy Zach so much. I feel like Zach lives in this sort of strange. Like, this strange gay place where there's. Because there's all these other gays that circulate around the show, but they are like the. They're kind of like. It was like Jared and we haven't seen Simon this year, but there's Simon and there's others. And they usually just sort of sit there to kind of be like, yes, girl, yes, yes. And it's not like. And Zach definitely does that, but it's kind of funny that, like, Zach is, like, not part of their crew, and he's like, not really part of the straight people's crew. He's just on his own gay island and I love that for him. I think it's great. I think it's so fun to watch.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So the producer's like, okay, so you know the reason people get screw talks is because your balls drop when you get older. And Zach's like, they do. And he's like, yeah. So that's what happens. So if they're gonna end up on the floor anyway, why are you rushing it? And Zach's like, I guess I just wanted to see what it was like to have old balls. I don't know. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

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[Ben]

So so anyway, they talk about Scro. Talks a lot. So Jason and Janet show up, and it's uncomfortable because, you know, they had their fight with Jasmine last week.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God. Janet is so uncomfortable.

[Ben]

She's really uncomfortable. She's like, really? Right now, guys, she's uncomfortable. And Jasmine? Who else is uncomfortable? Jasmine. Jasmine's uncomfortable. And Janet sees that Kristen's talking to Nia and Janet, and she's like, I'm gonna wait because I'm uncomfortable. So it's like, really uncomfortable.

[Ronnie]

So Nia's like, oh, my God, they're here. I guess I'll get myself a bottle of wine. And she's stirring everything. So Danny's like, at this point, Jason and I are pretty cool, you know, even though we had some problems. But I've got some definite frustration with Janet trying to attack me and my character. I'm gonna put my hand on her butt gently and explain, girl, you need to be nicer to Daddy.

[Ben]

So then Jasmine's talking to Luke, and she's like, how are you? And Luke's like, I'm good. And he's like, how are you doing, you know, at the beach? He's like, I've never seen Jason worked up like that before. And she's like, well, he's hurt because shit was said years ago. But, like, I didn't bring it up and I don't care. We don't believe it. Like, I would never hurt him like that unless the cameras were running. And we. You know, I needed to have a scene for the first time in a season and a half. So, sure, maybe a little bit.

[Ronnie]

Jasmine's so funny how she changes. She, like, goes for your throat one second and is like, oh, really? Really? Because I didn't even say it. Talk to your boys, because they're the ones who said it, and everyone hates you, Janet. Whatever she was saying. And then the next day, she's like, I love her. I don't even know what's going on. Like, I don't even know. I don't even know what the problem is. Like, I don't think I love them. I love them.

[Ben]

The only thing I love more than Janet are her casseroles.

[Ronnie]

So they're like, are you gonna talk to Jason? She's. She's like, yeah, you know, so she wants to get over it. So then she goes up to Jason, Jason and Janet, who are talking to the thirsties, Sheena and Brock, and she's like, hey, hey, hey. You know what, Janet? Janet, I just have one thing to say. If it's possible. I would love to have a conversation with you and your husband and me and Melissa. Because then it's four people. Okay, then it's four people. And not just three people, because I collect conversations better when they're four people. And Janet's like, great.

[Ben]

I love that. Four is my favorite number. At Dave and Buster's, I play every game four times, and if I do not hit it big, I move on. So let's do that. She goes, okay, great.

[Ronnie]

Great.

[Ben]

One step at a time. Great. Okay, great. Great points there. There are. Everything's gonna be good. So now Sheena is telling Danny and Nia I got salmon sperm put on my face.

[Ronnie]

Procedure. No, I just, like, really made a salmon horny. Like, he heard about my music videos, so.

[Ben]

Because I'm good as Ro. Because I'm good as well.

[Ronnie]

Oh, well, might as well use it. Waste not, want not.

[Ben]

She's huge in salmon circles. And then Jenna. Jenna's like, oh, God, it's my moment. It's my moment. It's my moment.

[Ronnie]

Making, like, tons of money in, like, only salmon, you know, getting more clicks than anybody on that side. Salmon splooging all over.

[Ben]

Ironically, their logo is blue. You would have thought they would have just gone pink.

[Ronnie]

So Jenna is, like, about interrupting you. I just needed to talk more about Sam splooging on Sheena's face.

[Ben]

You can interrupt me as much as you want, Ronnie, especially for chef or Salmon's spluji on Gina's face. Matt. Salmon was swimming upstream. So Jenna. Here it comes. She's like, hey, Zach, do you want to hear something wild? Yes. I dated Aaron, Michelle's current boyfriend, a year and a half ago. Isn't that wild, Ronnie? I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy. This is the fucking wildest thing I've heard in 2025.

[Ronnie]

It's wild. Why are all these people each other? How was Aaron even in this group then? Was. Was he in the group because of Michelle? And then Jenna jumped on him, and. What the. What's with this?

[Ben]

You know, it's all these people. They all just are in that milieu. You know, they all went to Cabo Cantina back in the day together. They're in Saddle Ranch. They all do Runyon Canyon, and they probably play pickleball. They all go to the same parties. We just. It's just the way it is.

[Ronnie]

Aaron, I thought, was brought in by Michelle. So was Aaron already part of this group where Jenna could get to him?

[Ben]

I'm saying I think he was part of a larger sort of, like, douchebag circle in, like, Hollywood, West Hollywood. You see the same people. All the clubs, they just exist.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Okay. I don't know. It seems fishy. I'm calling fishy.

[Ben]

She's my biggest fan.

[Ronnie]

So she dated Aaron a year and a half ago. And Zach's like, are you serious? She's like, yeah, it's just, like, such a small world. I mean, God, how many guys with bug eyes are getting ass in the city?

[Ben]

Well, I. You know, Sheena was talking about going on to only salmons, but I actually go on to only honey, and he was there, and I kind of like. I know we took our fan relationship to something more intimate.

[Ronnie]

I mean, it is a harder cleanup, but worth it at the end of the day.

[Ben]

He's a sweet guy. So Zach is like, did you like him? She's like, yeah, I did. Hey, should I tell Jesse? I mean, she's so clunky with her, like, attempts to get on the show. She's like, well, Sheena got back on. Lala's getting back on. Everything's turning up Jenna.

[Ronnie]

He's like, oh, my God, you're totally Sean. So she goes over and. Well, he does. He's like, oh, my God. Jatai, Jenna has a story for you, and I think you're gonna want to hear it. So he's like, oh, my God. All right, go ahead.

[Ben]

Here's my story. Are you ready? It has a really great arc to it. It has a beginning, middle, and end three act structure. I dated Aaron.

[Ronnie]

And who's Aaron?

[Ben]

Michelle's boyfriend.

[Ronnie]

Oh, that guy. So, okay, when was that? Hold on, let me get out my little notebook. I've been learning math. All right, go ahead.

[Ben]

Okay, so we dated twice. So, like, the first time was, like, like five years ago. And here's a photo from 2,000 years ago.

[Ronnie]

Twice. Five years ago is 10 years ago. Okay, go ahead.

[Ben]

And then, like, God, I think like, a year and a half ago, like, briefly. So, yeah, it's a pretty compelling story. I have already applied the moth to be able to tell this on stage because I think it just has, like, a lot of cadences to it, and I just. I want people to really hear my journey with. With Aaron.

[Ronnie]

So you've dated this guy for eight and a half years, which means. Mitchell, Michelle was cheating on me the entire time we were married. Oh, my God. Someone say moth. I'm looking for a moth to split on my face. It's, like, called a collab. You guys, don't judge me.

[Ben]

Yeah, wow. Guys, I'm just gonna take a moment here because I just found out Mich was cheating on me before she even met me. So it's pretty wild.

[Ronnie]

And Jesse's like, yeah, that's interesting because I heard that like a year and a half ago Michelle and him were together. No, you. You heard from. You heard from Kristen that she was around on you a year and a half or two years ago. She never said it was with Aaron. You're trying to make the Aaron thing happen. It probably was Aaron though, so.

[Ben]

It probably was. I mean, she did say she kissed someone, but you know what? I'm just gonna support Michelle on this one. I say cheat up Jesse.

[Ronnie]

Kristen has said in, I don't know, interviews, whatever, that she wasn't talking about that guy. She was talking about a different guy, which means Michelle was, like cheating multiple times. So I don't know.

[Ben]

I say the most barrier when it comes to Jesse Lolly. I'm totally in favor of infidelity against Jesse Lolly.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'm with you. This guy's such a piece of. And so Jesse's like, yeah, I'm just trying to figure it out. And Jenna's like, I'm sorry, do you want to have an affair? We could do it. I mean, that would get us pretty close to being on tv. Wouldn't that be great? Being on tv? It's like, I am on tv, right? Okay, so, you know, I'll be here. I'm here. When you're ready. Just call me. Any of your friends know me? I've been on television 10 years.

[Ben]

Do you want to hear a great story? I once flirted with Taye Diggs at An LA Fitness. Yeah. So anyway, great talking.

[Ronnie]

It's funny because Katie called him Taste Graham after that because, like, he got out of there really fast. It was hilarious. It was really funny. So Jesse's like, well, six months ago, Super Bowl Sunday, Luke comes up and says, I heard Michelle was seeing a guy. Well, you guys, Luke is the messiest ass person on this, by the way. He is the messiest one. And he gets away with it all because he's just like a innocent looking little ginger who doesn't shave his nuts. And everybody is like, oh, look at Luke, he's the best guy. Luke is fucking all of you over and I love him for you. You're doing great, Luke.

[Ben]

He's doing great work. I know Kristen was really upset that we all compare Luke to Van Gogh, but guess what? He is Van Gogh because Van Gogh is messy too. Van Gogh Is like, impressionist messy, and Luke is just 20, 25 messy. And they're the same person, except Luke still has all.

[Ronnie]

Luke is impressionable messy.

[Ben]

Yeah. So you know what? I don't want to hear any. I don't want to hear any guff that he's not like Van Gogh because he's 100. Like Van Gogh. Yeah, he looks like it and he acts like.

[Ronnie]

It's like. Yeah. While we were married, she was cheating, and she couldn't get a hold of him, and then she stopped by his house and caught him with another girl. Is Jenna the girl? Was he cheating on my wife, who was cheating on. On me?

[Ben]

Don't you think Jenna would have added that to the story? Like, her story was only gonna take.

[Ronnie]

Anything she can get to lend her story credence, sir.

[Ben]

Yeah. Jenna. All Jenna has is I dated Aaron. I guarantee she would have added some sauce if she could have. She would have a hun. And by the way, she's right there. Why don't you just ask her? Did you. Were you, like. Did Michelle walk in on you having sex with Aaron once? Like. Like, it's all right there. She did not. I'm gonna say there's nothing more to this. She dated Aaron. She got some free honey. End of story.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Jenna, this is kind of lame, really. I mean, unless you're gonna go up to Michelle and be like, hey, Michelle, did you still. You stole Aaron from me. I had him first. Okay, There's a fight or, jesse, I was cheating with Michelle at the same time you were dating or something. But just this, like, oh, my God, guess what? I dated Aaron. Who cares? Anna, that has nothing.

[Ben]

Well, she.

[Ronnie]

Anything.

[Ben]

I guarantee she was expecting Michelle to be there. And so it was gonna be a moment where she's like, you know what I did at errand, and then seeing if Michelle would have a rise out of it, and then it could be an issue. And then she was hoping Michelle would be like, get this girl out of my face. But Michelle wasn't there. And so she came in for her big moment, and she had this story, and she's like, what am I supposed to do? I guess I'll tell Jesse it's not gonna really have the same land in the same way. So it was a big flop moment for Jenna.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. It was a sad one. And she goes, oh, yeah. When I saw you, I was like, oh, my God. This is full circle. Really? You haven't seen Jessie Lolly in all this time. Michelle, you're always. Or Jenna, you're always Around. I don't believe you. I was like, what are the odds? And Jesse's like, yeah, it's a small world. Okay, can I get back to my kebabs? Because you're extremely boring. Even giving me ammunition against my wife, you're extremely boring.

[Ben]

I know. I would rather deal with a kebab than Jenna. So now Luke is going to talk to Danny about the trip. And because, you know, there's. They're gonna be going on a cash trip to Hawaii, and he's gonna propose there. And Luke says he's like, you know, Kristen is very good at uncovering the truth. You know, so I've got to be really careful because we just need to keep Detective Doty off the case. I'm like, yes, well, you know, Kristen isn't always so great about discovering the truth. I think that's what got her fired the first time around, so.

[Ronnie]

Well, listen, had some misfires, that's for sure.

[Ben]

I wouldn't. I would not. She's no Sherlock Holmes, okay? She's like, wait. Not even elsebeth.

[Ronnie]

Wait a minute, Luke. I heard that Faith is proposing to me in Hawaii.

[Ben]

And she stole a jacket, and the stolen jacket it. She stole my wedding dress. Dress.

[Ronnie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

So then. Then Danny and Nia are leaving to go the baby and everything. And Britney's like, hi, guys. Everyone gather round, Gather round. Okay. Gotta tell you got something. Okay, so last night, Jax came home from the. Came home to get his mail, which, by the way, what. What rehab does Jax get to come home to get mail? What is that about?

[Ronnie]

I don't know. I don't understand the whole. I don't understand this whole fucking rehab thing. And why do. Why do you even need your mail in rehab? You're not paying your mortgage. What mail are you getting? You're not paying your bill are you getting? He was coming there to uncover the cameras, which is what he did. He came and uncovered the cameras. And then. So, you know, me and my mama were covering back up. You know how that goes. You know, take the cameras out. Brittany, Take the cameras out of the house.

[Ben]

Yeah, take them out. So. So anyway, so let's talk to Jenny. And so they asked the actual therapist who, like, goes around place with him because he's got, like, a therapist. It's like a photographer, but a therapist. Okay. And she said that he made the girl, the girl who answers the FOMO own cry because he told her that if anybody calls to lie and act like he was on his way to urgent care, and she was sobbing and crying. Because he made her feel like she need to tell people that. And so the therapist had tell all of us the truth that he never went to them. And then their hospital girl.

[Ronnie]

Of course that whole thing was a lie. Of course it was. It's Jax. Anybody who believes one single thing coming out of Jax's movie mouth, I swear to God. So Janet's like, oh, my God. He manipulated the front desk person to say he was having a medical emergency. This is why I have his poster in my bedroom. That guy is amazing.

[Ben]

He's working on levels I didn't even think were possible. I mean, receptionist manipulation. That's genius. That's Kaiser. So is.

[Ronnie]

So Britney knows that this guy is putting out this, like, PR story to everybody else, but he's really just still being a monster. And then he wrote me this really long email, and he told me that the house is in foreclosure. Can you believe that? I looked that one up, and first of all, I put four. The number four clothes led to a website was a sad one, but that means people are gonna sell my house, y' all.

[Ben]

And. And so she's like, this is really so up. Because she's saying this could ruin her chance of ever buying another home. And it's true. So Jason's like, yeah, I mean, that'd be terrible. Yeah. I mean, because my knife is on as much as he is, and, you know, I would lose. I've lost all that money I put down, you know? And like. And Janet's like, does he not realize that he's damaging Cruz? Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that's what I said. Okay. And I said it right in front of Cruz, too. But he also said, we're splitting the podcast 50. 50. I'll do one week, you do the next. And Jason's like, this is so disappointing because after what he was saying two days ago, we said he was going to give you all the money. I can't believe it. Anyway, still. Team Jax.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Team Jax. He's trying, guys. So they're like a lawyer, Brittany. And she's like, you know what? After tonight, I'm ready to fight. I'm ready to fight. Okay, so then we see Michelle going to Lala's new house. We haven't seen Lala's new house in the Vals.

[Ben]

She's like, what happens?

[Ronnie]

We welcome. Have we welcome?

[Ben]

Well, we haven't seen it, but haven't we? Let's see. Shiplap, modern farmhouse. Open the door. Living room to the right, dining room to the left. Walk down the Staircase, kitchen to the left, TV area to the right. The exact same layout.

[Ronnie]

The exact same little boxes on the hillside. Little boxes full of tiki. Tacky little boxes on the hillside. And the old look just the same.

[Ben]

I did appreciate Lala's room and board sofa. That's a cute one. So anyway.

[Ronnie]

What, her what?

[Ben]

Room and board sofa.

[Ronnie]

Oh, her room and boards. Oh, that's some fancy board. Yeah. Remember I was looking for stuff and you go, oh, my God, you should go to room and board. So I go to room and board is nice. And I texted you, like, you crazy. They're like, do you like this chair? It's $19 million. Enjoy it.

[Ben]

Yeah, but. But compared to, like, Restoration Hardware. I remember looking at sofas and Restoration Hardware that I. I was like, I. My dream was. All I wanted was a sectional. I've always wanted a big sectional. And so I went to Restoration Hardware, and their sectionals were, like, you know, three inches from the ground, and they're, like, tiny. And like, that will be $30,000. Not. It was, like, not even a joke. It was literally $30,000 for a sofa at Restoration Hardware. I was like, you are out of your mind store.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, That's a lot. That's crazy. That's crazy money. So Lala is like, welcome. How's it going? She like, it is very difficult because Jesse's. You know, my daughter is asking why Jesse's house is bigger, and I say, abregiate what you have. You live in a bedroom. Build a honeycomb. Be grateful.

[Ben]

She is part of the hive. Oh, my God, she likes Beyonce already. No, she is part of a beehive now.

[Ronnie]

So Lala's like, yeah, you know, I know what it slikes, because my daughter, like, when she's hanging out with Rants, she'll go to, like, Target. Like, when she comes back to me and put everything in the carts. And I'm like, no, honey, that's only what you do with daddies.

[Ben]

Does Jesse. Does Jesse, like, do you see similarities in the same patterns as your ex? Like with Jesse? Yes. Yes, I do. Because I didn't realize how sometimes he was so disrespectful to people. I always had to, like, brush it off. And Lala's like, yeah, you become desensitized after, like, the 30th, like, news article about how terrible your husband is. But, I mean, my ex was, like, not kind to people. But he did put me in a movie called Gotti, so I always thought he was insecure. But, you know, turns out he's an.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, like, he was an. But I do know Al Pacinos now stuff. It worked out. So she. She says that she always thought Rand was just insecure. And she's like, no, he's just an asshole. I realized once I wasn't living in the mansion anymore that he's. He's just an asshole. I was like, oh, I like that. We can relabel the men after, you know, the gravy train stops. So we all knew he was an asshole, Lala. And so did you. It was worth it at the time. Whatever. I can't cry about random brand or, well, Jesse more because I don't know. Okay, so let's go to this Michelle and Jesse thing. Well, first we talk about Michelle. Go ahead.

[Ben]

Yeah. Oh, no, I was gonna say it's actually not so much about Jesse anymore. And now Michelle, we find out that her mom has cancer and it's spread. It's really sad. She doesn't know how much time is left. This really broke my heart for her because I know. I know. You know, Michelle might not be the most charismatic person there is. And some people say she's basically a robot. And we make her sound like a robot. Well, she does talk like one. So, you know. You know, I know, like, she received a lot of. But like, you know, this is just. This is hard. And my heart really does go out for her because she's trying to deal with this, like, narcissist, and she's dealing with a mother who is ailing, and that sucks. I felt really bad for her when she talked about this.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, so she talks about that. And they hug commercials.

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

I know. Jasmine definitely pulled a power move by making them leave the Valley and come to Hollywood. Also, now that you say Janet wearing pajamas from the 1920s, it made me realize I could totally see Janet as one of those cigarette girls in the nightclub in the 20s, just walking around with a tray strapped to her shoulders. So Jason's like, this is, like, weird. I feel like two weeks ago, like, this would have been a super fun, you know, restaurant trip. And, like, not 100% sure what happened, to be honest, but, like, we're just, like, pretty confused about stuff. And I just wanted to find out. Like, when we first learned about stuff, it was at Britney's pool party. And Kristen came over and said, Jasmine said you take your ring off and when you go out or something like that. And when I first heard, I thought, well, it was so left of field. I was just, like, laughing. But then I was like, wait, why? Why would Jasmine say this? Why would Kristen go at Go. Like, why would you tell Kristen, who we're not in a good place with at all? Like, what's going on here? I'm so confused.

[Ronnie]

This is so ridiculous. So he's like, oh, my God, Jasmine. Basically like, what the fuck, Jasmine? They're like, we would expect this from Kristen, but not from you. So a couple of quotes from that episode Kristen. One from Kristen's confessional. She said, I heard this rumor from Zach. It was then confirmed from Jasmine. The second quote was Luke, who told Janet and Jason about the rumor. And he said, I heard the rumor a year ago. So Jasmine heard that you take your ring off sometimes at bars. This is so ridiculous. So Jasmine's like, yeah. So Jasmine's like, I mean, I never told Kristen, so I don't even know where this is going. And he's like, but you said that you told Kristen at the party. She's like, no, I didn't. And then we see a clip of her going. Of them saying, so Kristen told her. She goes, yes.

[Ben]

Kristen told me about this. Yes. So she's. She, Jasmine and Melissa are denying that they ever had any conversation about the ring or anything like that. And Jan, it's like, but she came up to us and said, jasmine said this, and then we're okay. And she's. Well, we never said any of it. It's like, yeah, but she did try to blame you. And Melissa's like, at the end of the day, you get margaritas from margaritas. And this conversation is not focused on. Unlike what he said. That's. We're not here to. We're just here to squash things with you guys, because I promise, wherever the rumor started from, it was not us who originated us.

[Ronnie]

Okay, but here's the thing, because I. I just bungled this last section because there's so much in this scene. Jasmine in the last scene said, okay, I said it, but I didn't start it. And they're like, did you say it to Kristen? And she's like, well, I mean, I told her that I'd heard it, but now she's saying, I never said anything to Kristen. I'm like, you. We have the clip, Jasmine. Like, what the hell? Just tell Jack. Why don't you just tell Jasmine, she. Or Janet that she's an. Just. Just do that. Just say it's a rumor that your ring was off. That's it. It wasn't meant to be a horrible thing against you guys. It should never have come out. Kristen was being an. I'm sorry. It came out. But, yes, I'm guilty of gossiping just like everybody else. But now it becomes this. Well, Kristen's just a liar, and Kristen's making everything up. Which it's like, yeah. And Janet thinks she solves some big mystery by saying, oh, now we know who the real mastermind is. It's Kristen. We already knew. Kristen brought this up to get back at you for being an asshole to her friend. She said it on tv. And to you, it's not a big mystery that you solved. Angela Lansbury, get off your bike.

[Ben]

Yeah, it's really not. So Jasmine's like, look, I don't really think that you're a Karen. And Janet's like, well, you know, it's funny because I looked up a definition of a Karen, and it says, seems like, entitled something. And I was like, well, yeah, I guess I am guilty of that. I am kind of a Karen.

[Ronnie]

Had to look up the definition of Karen in 2025, girl. Like, no one's ever called you a Karen before. I don't believe it.

[Ben]

Yeah. So they just sort of, like, bury the hatchet. Like, that's just how I felt in that moment, was that you were a Karen, but I don't believe you are a Karen. I just felt in that moment, you were a Karen. And Jan's like, if I had even realized that you felt ganged up on, even though you did say please, it's two against one. This isn't fair. I never. I would have just stepped away. I never would have done that. I'm like, yeah, it's pretty obvious that she. She said to you, like, a million times, but out. You still stayed there.

[Ronnie]

And Melissa's like, well, I'm just happy we're doing this because, you know, we're all kind of learning that something has happened to make us all think we're against each other. What could that be? And Janet's like, well, you know, I think the real mastermind is Kristen. Like, no shit, Janet. So they all hug, and now they decide to all be friends. But then Jasmine tells us at the end of the scene, she's like, yeah, I want to be good with Janet because she's scary and she'll fuck you up. So I made up with her.

[Ben]

So now we know we're about to learn some more shit about Jax because we get a Jax video message, and the way the show works is they give us a video of Jax being all nice and kind, and then they. As soon as that's done, they give us a scene where we find out even more that he's up to.

[Ronnie]

So he's like, this time, violins. We get the mariachi band over to the table, being like.

[Ben]

Hey, guys, I'm pretty excited to walk out the door. I mean, I have anxiety. I mean, I'm anxious. I'm scared. But you know what? It's time. And I know I have a lot of apologizing to do, and I just. I just. I hope. I hope they can see that, you know what? Like, you know, I hope they can see, like, hey, Jax, he's making progress. He's taking steps. He's trying to get that fucking camera in my face. You receptionist. Anyway, so, you know, I'm just, like, excited. I'm a new man. I'm a nice guy now. I'm treated. And I think everything's fixed.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Jax, that's why you're there, so everybody could see that you're trying. We know. We know you're game by now, buddy. So now let's go to Brittany, the foreclosure house. Doorbell's ringing. Oh, my McDonald's, Taco Bell and Domino's. So there's a lot of fast food. That looks like a depression dump to me. I've been there, girl. So Zach and Kristen show up, and she's like, oh, my God, we're having a kider by fast food because Jax is coming my home tomorrow. So we're gonna pack up all his and get it out of here. He's got a new little condo now. I just need him to be gone. I need him to be gone.

[Ben]

And so Michelle walks in and sees the fast food and is, like, disgusted. She's like, brittany and I certainly have different tastes, taste buds. She loves fast food, and I do not like it. Now, listen, Michelle, I was just standing up for you, okay? Don't make me regret the words I used, okay? Because I am a fast food girly as well. So please, please, just settle down over there.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Michelle, you need all the positive publicity you can get, and this is not the way to get it. Yeah, come on. You're talking to people who watch the Valley.

[Ben]

So Zach is like, so since he does get out on Thursday and today's Tuesday, how about on Wednesday we take you out for one last night before he's out of rehab? And let's just go to Jax's before. Just, like, one night, though. Let's just go there and.

[Ronnie]

Hold on. Also let me say Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, just so I get all of the days in there.

[Ben]

So he's like, I had this idea, literally for months now to change the name of Jax's bar to Brits. Yeah. And then we want Britney to, like, know that, like, we support her and we love her and we're in this together.

[Ronnie]

So Michelle's like, how do you feel about seeing Jack? She goes, oh, my God, he's gonna break me. Cause, like, you guys know I really love him. I mean, he's a Supreme Crunch taco. You know, you can try and say no to him, but eventually they're gonna be on your doorstep anyway. But, you know, I still love him, and he can trick me into going there, but I need to be strong. I need to be strong. Okay? I'm gonna be strong.

[Ben]

We support you. Don't worry. So Michelle is there and she's looking sad. She's like, I wish I was getting the same support that Britney is getting now. I mean, I am an amazing friend. I will drop anything and everything. If one of my friends needs help or they need something. I am ride or die. And so I don't feel that in return.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, she's kind of got the Lala disease where she's like, wait a minute, I'm getting divorced. Why is she getting attention for her divorce and I'm not getting any attention for my divorce? You know, you can tell she's like, hangs out with Lala a lot. I think your divorces are very different. One, you moved on very quickly, and it looked like you were kind of moved on before you got divorced. And you knew what you were going to do. You were confident in it, and you found somebody else and you're happy. Like, everybody else did rally around you. But you don't need constant support like Brittany, because Brittany's a fucking train wreck. You know, she needs support every day. If you still had cars piling up on the track, people would be there to support you, too. You know what I mean? But Britney doesn't. It's like Brittany, you get the train back on the track, it starts going again, and then there's a cow on the train track again. And then Brittany's like, oh, my God, I can't believe it's another Kyle. And you're all. You're back there fixing it every time.

[Ben]

Yes, Brittany needs the cow catcher. But the thing is that, first of all, Britney's is happening during the taping of the show. Also, Brittany and Jax are more famous, let's be honest. And second of all, yeah, you do. Like, you know, it seems like you sort of have this shit handled. I mean, I think she does Deserve support, because I think Jesse is a total narcissist. I think Jax seems like he's a narcissist, and he's, like, actually dangerous, too. He's actually scarier than Jesse. Jesse's, like, more venal, but, like, Jax is, like, a really scary one. And there's. Brittany is actually pretty honest this episode in that she's like, I'm trapped in the. I'm trapped in the. In the loop, and I'm afraid that I'm gonna get sucked back into it. So she's like. She actually really needs all these people to. To keep her, like, in going in the right direction. Like you said, like, people to clear those cows off her train tracks, because she is. Otherwise, she could just get sucked right back in.

[Ronnie]

So I think one of the examples that we get from Michelle of his Santa Barbara trip or to have to go stay at a separate place, no one did that because he was the one who planned the trip and got the house that was considering that to this. Like, well, why are they still letting Jesse in the house? I was like, oh, don't worry, they don't. They're still calling Jax and supporting Jax, and they'll welcome Jackson to every shooting scene that they possibly can. So if you're worried that you're the only person being disrespected by all of these users and losers and boozers around you, you're not. They're doing it to Britney, too, so don't let this fool you.

[Ben]

Yeah. Although I. I have to say there is a part of me that does feel like Michelle is not. She's not totally without, like, without merit in what she's saying. Like, it does suck. She's going through a vicious, awful divorce, and her mom is dying, and no one's really, like, checking in on her. And that does kind of suck, no matter what. Even if she does seem like she's handling it better and she is, like, a more stable person. Person than Brittany. Like, it does suck. So I'm gonna let her. I'm gonna let her.

[Ronnie]

Well, it does seem like that. I mean, I just think that. I'm not saying she needs to shut up or anything like that. I mean, no, I know why she would be hurt, but she. I can. I. I feel like they do support her. I just feel like the. The re. The. It's not as dramatic. Like, they're not having a party, you know, to pack up Jesse stuff and all of that, but I think it's just because Britt still needs help moving on. And Michelle seems that she's moved on.

[Ben]

And also, like, Brit is just that person who's like, hey, everyone, I want to have a party, celebrate my independence, okay? It's called a bad beach ball party. Everyone bring a beach ball. Gonna put a smiley face on. It's gonna be me. And then bring up the beach balls. And. Oh, no, I'm crying again. The beach balls is Jax's favorite kind of ball. Oh, no.

[Ronnie]

And Britney, in literally every scene she's in has a moment where she's. Okay, guys, gather round. Gather round, everybody. Everybody, gather round. Here's what Jax did today. That motherfucker. And then she, like, goes on a monologue. She rallies the troops, and so she's, like, constantly working for those votes, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah. And Michelle's like, who wants free, honey? It's like. It's just not the same. It's like, you know, Brit is just that person who just does it, who just gets people all around. And she also gives, you know, McDonald's. So there's something to be said about that.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, you get Happy Meal toys if you go to Brits.

[Ben]

Okay, yeah, you can turn your nose up against the French fries and the gorditas all you want, but guess guess who's getting people in the side seats. It's Brit for her divorce and not you. So, yeah, your tools now.

[Ronnie]

They're gonna bag up all of Jax's shit. So she brings everybody over, and she's, like, giggling and throwing his stuff out of the closet. And Kristen's like, oh, my God. Separating his shoes. It's like, oh. It's like a way to get the brain working, you know, it's like how you work with little toddlers. That's what Jax needs. You know, you're like, okay, match this. Like, let's be real. Jax needs it.

[Ben]

Kristen creating a sneaker puzzle is hilarious. Putting one sneaker in one bag and another in another. It's great because it's actually gonna drive him absolutely nuts, because Jax is, like, very much like, ocd. He wants everything in order, so it's. It is great chaos. And then Brit's like, hey, there's that thing.

[Ronnie]

And look, there's that.

[Ben]

And, oh, it's his little denim jacket he likes to wear around. And then they show this, like, sentimental montage of Jackson, his light denim jacket, and she starts to cry, like, oh, the Dynam jacket.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not gonna feel for this Jax for one second. So Britney's like, this is just so hard. I mean, I still Love this guy, you know, like, I've got views. I ain't just going to disappear overnight. Where they going to go just overnight?

[Ben]

So everyone like throws all the, throws all the bags in the garage and it's like, yay, they did it. And now it's one day until Jax leaves the facility. So Britt goes to meet Nas, a divorce lawyer. I love NASA. I feel like Nas doesn't take any bullshit. You know, she sort of has that look like, I will destroy you in the courtroom. Like, yeah, go get him, Nas. Go do it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, Nas has that thing where she's like, okay, so tell me what is going on? And Brittany tells her and she's like, divorce. That is my secret. Well, you're a divorce lawyer, of course. So what are you, what do you, what are you gonna tell her? Side of fries. Go home.

[Ben]

Nas has a cousin who's gonna fuck up Jax if this doesn't go right. Divorce. And if not, I called my cousin. Yeah, you leave.

[Ronnie]

So. So Brittany is telling him, you know, he's. We've been married since 2019. We've been separated, you know, but it's not legal though. Okay. But I moved to an Airbnb and then we're fighting. But you know, what should I, what should I protect myself with? You know, he's got blow ups, he's more aggressive. Like he's throwing furniture at me. He's punched walls. He hadn't laid hands on me. He has laid coffee tables on me. Does that count? Yes, that counts. Britney, Jesus Christ, call the police next time, by the way, as well. Get this asshole throw thrown in jail. I hate this person. Not Britney James, obviously.

[Ben]

Nas is writing down and her, she's just writing notes. And he just. I just imagine that Nas notepad is just like, I will destroy this man. I will destroy him.

[Ronnie]

So Brittany's like, all I'm hearing is chicken nuggets, taco supreme and double pepperoni stuffed crust. Oh my God, it's like you're looking into my mind.

[Ben]

No, just the crumbs on your lapel. So. So Brittany is like, yeah, he's in rehab now. He doesn't get out till tomorrow. And he's still rage texting me. Like, this was the. Just the other night. I had to block him. So she shows Naz the phone and Naz is like, oh, wow. Wow, this is bad. This is really bad. You know? And she's like, how? She's like, how does he know that you're not home? And she's like, exactly. Is he stalking You? Yeah. He would look at me through cameras and stuff, and he was telling me, like, what I was wearing different things.

[Ronnie]

Jesus. She's like, this is disturbing. I don't like it. So these texts that we see popping up. I know you're drinking. I have eyes and ears. Everyone is going to tell me if you tattle on me again. Go party while I'm in here. I have everyone watching you like a hawk, which is. He's so, like, gross.

[Ben]

It's awful. It's awful. And so the Nazib is like, yeah, he's obsessed. And it's really. It's not healthy for you. And he needs to control himself. This is not good. And Brittany's saying that they have, you know, a son together, but that Jax stopped paying the mortgage whenever, you know, when. When she moved out, he stopped paying the mortgage. And so this is where we hear even more. Maybe you already knew about this. You may have been up on this. I did not realize. I knew that Jax was, like, in debt. But what we find out is that he was in debt to the. He was back when. When they moved in or when they got married. He was already $1.2 million in debt. Debt to the IRS, which is. That's a lot of taxes you did not pay. So he's already behind. And so when they got the house.

[Ronnie]

Something you're not getting out of, like, the IRS is not going to be like, oh, you're bankrupt. Okay, we'll just forget about it. No, they're coming for your ass.

[Ben]

So they folded it into the mortgage.

[Ronnie]

They need to pay for its birthday celebration.

[Ben]

Yeah, exactly. So they fold it into the. Into the mortgage, which means that essentially, like, she is now liable for his tax debt. And so the fact that now he is like, okay, I'm releasing this house to you, and you have to pay off the rest of the mortgage. He's basically saying, you're paying off my $1.2 million of tax debt. That's how I interpret it.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, that's what he's doing.

[Ben]

Crazy. Crazy.

[Ronnie]

That's fucking insane. And so she's like, yeah, so now our mortgage is like $17,000 dollars because of. Because of his arrears. Well, yeah, his ass did it. No, his arrears. Yeah, his butt. His little butts and troubles. What I'm saying, but ears is a word. I know it is, girl. What do you think? I'm trying to kick his right now. Help me do it. NASA.

[Ben]

That's my favorite burger joint in Kentucky. Arrears ar I apostrophe.

[Ronnie]

S. So it got to the point where they even garnished her bank account for a hundred grand because they're married. And now he got a lease on this condo. He didn't tell her, and now she wants her to take over the house. And she's like, and so you're gonna start paying the mortgage. Okay, yeah. And pay all the expenses for the child and this and that. So what's he gonna contribute? And she's like, that's why I need help, because I literally pay for everything for my son. I mean, this is nuts. So she's paying him everything because she thought he was taking care of this mortgage and his tax debt way he had has, which he has not been doing, so.

[Ben]

It's so vile. It's so, so vile. Like, this guy, like, every episode of the show just revealing another layer that this guy is. Is of a depravity of Jax. And so then Nas is like, yeah, you need to get a divorce sooner than later. And what I was actually so proud of Britney was that that she acted on it right away. She's like, can I do this today? And I was actually, you know, I was afraid that she'd be like, okay, well, we know that they're getting divorced, so we already know that. But, like, I was afraid that she would have an instinct of, like, okay, this is good to know. I'm gonna go back, I'm gonna think on it, and it was gonna stall out even longer. And I was really proud that she got this advice. And she was like, despite the fact that she still has feelings for Jax, she knew enough that, like, she needed to do this step for herself. I think that was great for her. Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So let's go to the Brits parties. We go to Brits. They're putting up. The gang is putting up a sign that says Brits over Jax's, and they have t shirts that say brits. So jaxis is crossed through or. No, it's like the same font as Jax, but it says Brits and Jack. Zach's like, my vision for Brett's bar takeover is to erase Jax from this bar, you know? Oh, and by the way, everybody is saying, oh, he's in a mental health. Health facility. He's so fragile. He's not fragile. He is not fragile.

[Ben]

Good for you, Zach. Thank you for saying that on this television show.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. So no one else will say this stuff on tv. You know, this guy is full of. Don't believe anything he's saying. I wouldn't even be surprised if he wasn't in rehab this whole time.

[Ben]

Oh, 100%. So. Although I guess there. There was a receptionist who did get do. Get caught in the crossfire.

[Ronnie]

It was probably the Hyatt Place place.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

She's like, I'm just trying to clean.

[Ben]

I'm just trying to sell KitKat bars from our lobby. So they're. They're. They set up the bar, they do all this stuff. It's fun, it's silly and everything. And they're all laughing about how it's going to piss off Jax. But the only one who's not enjoying this is Jesse. He's like, this isn't funny, man. Jason thinking Jack might think this is funny because J. Jason's like, well, maybe Jax might find it funny. He's like, yeah, no, Jax won't find it funny at all. That's like me thinking Michelle would think it's funny that I called her an escort. Well, but you still went forward with that, didn't you?

[Ronnie]

And found it funny, by the way.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Ronnie]

So, yeah, Jesse, of course, Aggro abuser, emotional abuser. Jesse is totally teams Jack. So he's like, yeah, that didn't resonate well, and neither will this. So now Kristen is in the car with Britney, and she's like, I'm so proud of you. To a divorce while you're filing. I am filing. You know, she said she's going to get Jax's arrears. I was like, you better, girl. You go get her. N.

[Ben]

So then they bring Britney to the bar. She brings Britney to the bar, but he's like, oh, my God. And she's, like, laughing. And they walk in and the sign says Brits. And she's like, this is amazing. It's great. And then Danny calls her the number one girl in the group, and she's like, oh, say, this is actually the sweetest thing ever. Like, all my friends know just how much I've been going through and actually, like, how much work I put in this bar. So to see it get into Brits and all this, it's just such a wonderful, exciting thing. I like, I've got the best friends. And so meanwhile, is watching all of.

[Ronnie]

This, and she's like. She's kind of gossiping with the girls, and she's like, the person that is really awful is right over there, and nobody is saying anything. Okay, Michelle, this is where you lose people. Because Jesse being terrible doesn't mean Jax isn't terrible. Like, yeah, as if Jax is not a real monster as well, you know, that's I think that's where Michelle loses people. Is trying to make her thing bigger or compare her pain. Like mine is worse, like, girl.

[Ben]

So Michelle is like, I feel weird because I feel like I'm going this through the same thing, but no one cares. And Janet's like, I get that. I was actually thinking, just think that when I saw this, I was like, michelle's going through something like this, this. And then I did something else. Cuz this just was a boring thought to think about.

[Ronnie]

Fueling it as usual, she's like, yeah, I was like, what is Michelle feeling like? Are you feeling like you don't get the same respect? Yeah, Janet, she probably is like, how you and Jax or. Or you and Jason are checking in on Jacks all the time. And Michelle's like, yeah, I'm going through the same thing, if not words, where is my Z board? And she's like, it hurts my feelings. So, yeah, we've already spoken on that probably.

[Ben]

Besides, didn't they. I mean, we've had several scenes where they were supporting Michelle all season long and both. And like you said, we've just. We discussed it. So Danny, they're all sitting at a picnic table and Daniel's, like, doing shots. But, like, he won't do the shot until he sees that Nia's looking away. So the moment Nia turns her head, he like, does a shot real seems, you know, his smooth, smooth, real good over there. Doing great. Doing great, Dany.

[Ronnie]

And he's an idiot because he knows that his friends are against him, and so he's just giving them fuel. I mean, he's just so stupid. And so of course everybody's like, oh, my God. And especially Janet and Jason, they're like, darkseid, Danny's here. Darkseid, Danny's here. Look, Darkseid, Danny's coming. Darkseid, Danny, they're just memeing it to death, you know? And Jesse's like, yeah, it's clear. He's hiding his drinking for nia and there's 99% success. That dark side's coming out.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

So.

[Ben]

So Kristen's like, I just want to ask, is there anything else? Do you have any resentment or is there anything I'm unaware of? Janet? Because I just want to make sure we're good. And so she tells us that, you know, she met with Janet to squash things after the whole ring rumor, and she thought like, Janet, she and Janet were good and they were on the same page. But then we see footage of Janet afterwards being like, you know, you know, still talking shit.

[Ronnie]

Fuck that, bitch.

[Ben]

Mm.

[Ronnie]

Okay. So, yeah, then we see Janet kind of freaking out at Sheena's house, being like, when has Kristen fucking Doughty ever apologized for anything in her life? No, she's not sorry. She's sorry she got caught. Girl came after my husband. Good luck. You just put a target on your back, bitch. And Kristen's like, yeah. So Sheena immediately called me after that and told me everything you said.

[Ben]

So messy. This messy group of friends.

[Ronnie]

Sheena is trying to get back in so badly, she's causing all the drama on the show. She brought Jenna in this episode. Now she's telling Kristen everything. So funny. So.

[Ben]

So. And Luca is like, ah, this game of telephone. And Danny is drunk and sitting right there. And he's like, yeah. Like, why do you talk about everybody else? And Kristen's like, I'd rather you not talk about other people, though. And Jason's staring at Danny like, stop talking to my wife that way. Danny's like, you know, last summer, I heard a lot about Jant scheming and manipulations, but, you know, I never really noticed too much of it because it wasn't towards me. And now I'm starting to see what people are talking about.

[Ronnie]

So, yeah, so he's like, I'm pissed about it. You know, you're talking about everybody. And Kristen's like, I very much agree with you, and puts her arm around Danny. And Danny's like, gonna.

[Ben]

I agree.

[Ronnie]

And he's like, I'm gonna call out now. And Jenna's like, I'm only guilty of talking about things that are all woven together. And he's like, no, no, no, listen. You guys are saying that you guys are good with Jasmine. And he is like, daniel, Daniel, stop it. Stop it.

[Ben]

Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, Daniel.

[Ronnie]

And they're like, no, I want to. And Jasmine's like, no, we're good. We talked. And he goes, oh, you talked? And. And she's like, yeah, we talked. So we're good. He's like, oh, you're good in that situation about the ring? And they're like, yeah. And Jason's like, okay. And we're not good about other stuff, Is that what you're saying? And he's like, no, but it's. First of all, it's not like screaming or being like, you stupid bitch. He's not doing anything like that. He's just like, yeah, Janet, you're talking shit about people like you did with Jasmine. They're like, oh, no, we didn't catch you up. We're already done. But they're making it sound like Danny's like coming at Janet with a baseball bat, being like, oh, you, you dumb. And he's not. He's just saying like, I'm pissed about all this stuff that you're starting. Does the man have a right? Drunk people have the right to say what they feel as well.

[Ben]

Yeah, but they know. I think the difference is it's like in the context of like larger Danny and sober Danny, they're like, oh, cuz he's. All of a sudden, you know, cuz his eyes do turn black. You know, he never really. He doesn't. His eyes just are black actually. They're just like.

[Ronnie]

I was going to say I've never seen. His eyes are too slow lidded clothes. I can't see what he says.

[Ben]

I don't. There is no whiteness in his eyes. There's just like two dark pools. And so I think, you know, he goes from being like, yeah, four under four soon gonna go to Shannon Clarita to like, yeah, you were talking. Why did you get button. Everyone's business. And so everyone just sort of sees as like, oh, here it comes. She's starting, you know, so you know, and he is uncomfortable. She's like, daniel, you can't speak for someone else. And so we're coming of like, okay, let's get. Let's get him out of the way. Let's go away, let's go away. You know, so.

[Ronnie]

So Kristen and Nia go to the bar and then Janet, of course is like, Danny's wasted. Jumping into this conversation, obviously dark side Danny Tm Janet. So he's Jason's like, danny, just relax. It's not gonna go how you think it's gonna go. He's like, wow, wow, wow.

[Ben]

It's like, what? What'd you call me? Because then Janet's like, oh, wow. He's like, danny Darko's here. Why'd you say. Why'd you call me Danny Darko? I tried out for that role. I lost her to Jake Gyllenhaal. I'm so mad about it.

[Ronnie]

Okay, bunny costume.

[Ben]

Okay, you're being weird right now. Just relax. Okay, Danny, you're being weird. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well, you're being stupid. Okay. Wow. Wow. I can't believe he said that.

[Ronnie]

So he's an idiot for even drinking because he didn't even do anything wrong in this. And now they can be like, oh my God, Danny got drunk and tried to talk to Janet. Now she's uncomfortable again.

[Ben]

And. And of course Janet then goes that place where she's like, well, my husband's not the one out here grabbing asses. H. So, yeah, so now, of course.

[Ronnie]

You'Re like, by the way, being like, classic Janet, pointing fingers at everyone else. Like, we just talked about you going after other people and then you immediately go after other people. Don't get the point. Janet. Stop talking about other people. It's like, yes, Luke.

[Ben]

So Nia's mad. She's like, I'm frustrated with Daniel. Like, he just kept poking at Janet. But, like, it's also kind of like, who do you think you are? Why are you coming for my husband? You're supposed to be our friends. I don't get it. I don't know why she's coming for Daniel.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my gosh. So then we go to Janet, Jason, Jesse, seeing Luke. And Luke's like, yeah, I mean, he is a lightweight. And Jenna's like, yeah. And I've spoken about things he did in this bar, but so has everyone else. I just happen to add alcoholic and drug addict on top of it. Big deal.

[Ben]

Big fucking deal. I'm not. I'm not the ass grabber. He's mad at himself. He's misplacing the anger on me. That's what's happening. He's mad at himself because he has a drinking problem and he grabs asses. And guess what? He kills kids. Yeah, there, I said it. He grabs him and throws them into the LA river at peak times. That's right. I said it all.

[Ronnie]

And he comes to this bar and he does stuff that he's embarrassed by and he's blaming me for talking about it instead of being mad at himself for what he's done. Oh, my God, you should all be ashamed of yourself for going to Jax's in the first place. Okay, yeah, you're all drunk and you're all there making ass out of yourselves by being there at all. And the man didn't even say anything to you except, why you do that? Why are you calling me dark side Danny over and over insinuating that he's got a drug and alcohol problem over and over again on national tv. Like, you're like, why would he be mad?

[Ben]

So meanwhile, Britney's.

[Ronnie]

But also, get it together. Don't drink. I'm not gonna.

[Ben]

I'm not gonna. Too hard.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. I mean, look, Danny made the mistake of getting drunk, but that's all he did. He didn't say anything disrespectful or out of line than what anybody else did. This Woman's been talking about him for weeks. I think he has a right to be like, what the hell are you coming from?

[Ben]

I will also say, though, that if you have a history of being, like, a sloppy drunk in the group, that, like, as you start to, like, heat up again and you're taking secret drinks when your wife isn't looking, I think you've earned the right for people to roll their eyes and be like, oh, God, here he goes again. Like, that's just what happens if you're a sloppy. You are going to get pushback.

[Ronnie]

Well, that's why I'm saying he's stupid. But I also think he has the right to confront somebody he's been talking about about him for weeks and not. Yeah.

[Ben]

Especially since everyone else disrupts everyone else.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah. That's what this show is. But with him, they're like, Danny Darkseid. Danny Dark side call Social Security. Janet's uncomfortable.

[Ben]

So meanwhile, Britney sits down with Jesse. She said, hey, you not drinking tonight, Brits? He's like, no, I want to be clear headed for tomorrow. So he says. He tells us that he's picking up Jacks from rehab. These. These. These two. And he's like. He's like that. The night before, we're changing the name of his bar that he's in love with, covering his name and putting Brit's name over it. Fan tastic. Jax was very specific about including Britney in the entire process. That's why it's not called Jackson Brits. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm not. I'm not falling for any of Jesse's revisionist history about Jax and, like, trying to make Jax into the victim. Victim here in the situation. No, no, no.

[Ronnie]

What a giver of him to include Britney. Britney who he brought in to design everything and do all of the work while he did nothing, include spending his own money and then refused to put her name on it as well. Instead of making Jackson, Brits only made it his when she was doing all the work to get it. What a generous person.

[Ben]

Where Jax goes and gets to hit on all the waitresses there. Now, I have to say, here's what really pissed me off. So Brittany till Jesse that they packed up all Jax's stuff and Jesse goes, you know, I don't want him to come out and see his shit packed up, hear from somebody that, you know, there are these shirts floating around that say Brits. And then he goes on the attack and just starts attacking people. So how about you get. You say, I don't Want to find out that Jax is attacking people, Not. I don't want to find out that you did all this stuff. And he starts attacking because it totally takes away all responsibility and accountability for Jax. Jax, if you're saying, like, this is shitty, if you do all this stuff, Jax is gonna start going on a rampage. How about you go after the guy whose instinct is to go on a rampage? He's the one who's more at fault here.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Why are you blaming everybody else's for everybody else for Jax's? So Brittany's like, well, if he does that, it's proof he ain't gonna change. And when it comes to me, Jax, I got him by the balls because I could do worse if I wanted to, and I ain't doing it. But he needs to realize and respect me for my decision. And so Jesse's like, but how much winning do you have to do? How much winning has she done, Jesse? She's.

[Ben]

How much lose millions of dollars losing has she had to suffer this guy?

[Ronnie]

She's gonna lose her house because of this guy. She's been recorded and stalked by this guy. What is she winning exactly? Jesse, you're such a fucking piece of shit. And now everybody is gonna be going crazy because the rest of the cast has got everybody focused on sloppy Danny instead of this piece of shit who says sitting here, standing up for an abuser. And Jesse and Jason, who's also going to be over there standing up for an abuser in two seconds. So fuck your self righteous bullshit, lady.

[Ben]

I know. How much winning do you have to do? She gets to do all the winning that she wants and deserves because she's been stuck in the loser bucket with Jax for way too long. And, and by the way, Jesse, why are you complaining about how much winning you know that does. Does Brittany need to have? And yet you seem quite content to go after more quote, unquote winning moments against Michelle, right when you're trying to.

[Ronnie]

Threaten to move to Orange county so Michelle can't have custody of the kid and all this other shit. Shut up, Jesse.

[Ben]

Yeah, you know, she's like, well, he.

[Ronnie]

Ain'T gonna win against me. I'm sorry, he's not. And he goes, but that's what I'm saying. Like, why does it have to be winning? And he goes, well, we shall see. It's T minus 12 hours and counting, people. Yeah, Jax and you, dude, you're crazy.

[Ben]

We'll see how this all pans out next week live in Los Angeles at our show at the Fonda So that is going to be a wild one. That's going to be so great. And we hope everyone is there. And if Jax decides to crash our show once again, I'm hoping he doesn't.

[Ronnie]

He'll be kicked out.

[Ben]

None of us want to see his face. He will get kicked out.

[Ronnie]

So looking crash the show. Have to pay to get into this one. The other one. He could just wander in off the streets like. Hey. Hey. I heard you were talking about me. Go ahead, ask me anything. Ask me whatever you want. I can lie about whatever answer you need me to.

[Ben]

Yeah. Okay. Everyone, thanks so much for being here. What a fun show. It is a fun show despite it being so dark. And we'll catch you in the next one.

[Ronnie]

Bye.

[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

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[Ben]

Every big moment starts with a big dream. But what happens when that big dream turns out to be a big flop? From Wondery and ill Media, I'm Misha Brown and this is the big flop. Every week, comedians join me to chronicle the biggest flubs, fails and blunders of all time. Like Quibi.

[Ronnie]

It's kind of like when you give yourself your own nickname and you try to, like, get other people to do it.

[Ben]

And the 2019 movie adaptation of Cats. Like, if I'm watching the dancing and I'm noticing the feet aren't touching the ground, there's something wrong with the movie. Find out what happens when massive hype turns into major fiasco. Enjoy the big flop on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to the Big Flop early and ad free on Wondery Plus. Get started with your free trial at wondery.com/@24 I lost my narrative. Or rather it was stolen from me, and the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes, and politics. I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks both recognizable and unrecognizable names about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaiming and feel like they filled their tank up, they connected with the people that I'm talking to, and leave with maybe some nuggets that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.