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Ronnie Karam
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Ronnie Karam
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
Who cares what happens when there's so much happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?
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Ben Mandelker
Well, hello, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens the smooth, dulcet tones of Bravo recaps. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben.
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Ronnie Karam
Hi, Ronnie. How are you?
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Ben Mandelker
Good. I'm so good. How are you? What are you thinking? What's in your brain? How are you feeling, Ben?
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Ronnie Karam
I'm feeling excited. That's what I'm feeling. I'm feeling excited. Yeah, I'm excited.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, you're excited. It's next 10 NYC day. It's also the day before we appear live in Seattle. We're going to be in Seattle doing our first Real Housewives of Miami recap live. Join us at the neptune theater Thursday, June 12, which is tomorrow. We'll see you there, Seattle. Also next week is our final show on this tour in Los Angeles. June 12th. No, June 19th in Los Angeles at the Ford Theater. We will be recapping the Valley, the return of Jacks to the Valley. So come yell and scream at Jacks with us in that recap. It's going to be so fun. Also, if you want these videos, if you want these recaps on video, we do them on Crappin on Demand on our Patreon as well as three or four Love island recaps a week, if you're watching that. So we're doing a whole fest, a whole love fest over there. So join us over at Patreon and we sure love you guys. Okay. Thanks for being here. Thanks for being with us. Let's get on to next gen and wisely.
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Ronnie Karam
Let's do it. Well, episode two in the books. Kind of an interesting one because it felt like in the beginning, it felt like the pilot all over again. It was like they were reintroducing us to the same characters. And I was like, that's. That's kind of funny. I felt like the pilot was like the sizzle reel. And now they're like, let's do the pilot over again just one more time. But then. And I was like, a little concerned. I was like, why are they doing this? There were a lot of silly things, a lot of silly graphics on camera, you know, I was like, oh. But then it, like, it, like it figured itself out. And then like the second half, I was totally invested.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Like, they did the pilot and then they waited for a really long time and then came back to shoot some more to start and had to kind of start over and give Ava a bigger role. And then they made it seem like Ariana, I guess she didn't meet anybody last week, if we think about it. But did they add her later and then try to blend her in or what? What do you think?
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, they're like, they're like, Ariana's like the new kid on the block. Like, how's she gonna fit in to New York? Cool kids.
- [06:05]
Ben Mandelker
But then they were like, no, we have to have her in the pilot. So then they added her into the pilot as well. I don't know. I don't know what happened, but it was weird. Cause it's like she was a last minute addition or something. But now we get the Ariana coming to New York story and we get what this show is really gonna be about, which is New York bred Nepo babies fighting reality TV Nepo babies and then the New Yorkers. Which is true about New York I found when I lived there. You know, when you're from New York, it's like, I'm from here. Where are you from? And so they don't take kindly to outsiders. But unfortunately, the outsiders are the one that brought your thirsty New York born asses. A TV show. So what are you gonna do?
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Ronnie Karam
And what? And what? And what? One Nepo baby doesn't realize when he's like looking down at another Nepo baby, is that that Nepo baby that he's looking down on is the heir to like a fast food fortune. So he doesn't even realize what he's going up.
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Ben Mandelker
He's richer than your dad, probably. He's the Zach. He's. He's like a billionaire. So. Yeah, sorry, sorry.
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Ronnie Karam
Get your fake SARS guard ass out of our way because sorry for the groping kid. Josh.
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Ben Mandelker
Also sorry you brought on a friend who's way hotter than you and has an only fans. I love how only fans has become a thing now. That's like a social boon when people are like, yeah, he has an only fans. Dad. It's like a big deal.
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Ronnie Karam
Someone posted on Twitter today, there was, like, a picture of. Was. What's her name again? Eva.
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Ben Mandelker
The.
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Ronnie Karam
The. Damon Dash's daughter.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, Ava Dash.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, Ava and Amira and then some other, like, model types. And someone said. And I don't know if this is true or not, but someone said that, like, two or three of the models in the photo, they dropped out of the show when they found out that, like, Gia and Ariana were coming on board. I was like, you guys are. I'm not saying that. Like, listen, you know, I understand Kim Zolciak, Teresa, they are, you know, they're. They're dumpster fires. However, like, you have to get over yourselves here a little bit, okay? Let's not act like you are some special hot stock in New York that can't be tarnished with the. The Zolcia kid or like, Gia Giudice. Get over yourselves. Beyond.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, you're all trashy. Reality star is like, I love models. The models especially. Shut up. You're a fucking model. Be glad you got a job. Get over here. You're gonna. You're gonna eventually crave ice cream like the rest of us one day. So you better get your money in order now.
- [08:31]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, exactly. Enjoy having your career stall out.
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Ben Mandelker
So that was another interesting thing that happened was Ava is a model. Model. She's like a. I don't know, like, high fashion model. And you see the high fashion model kind of kissing the TikTok model's ass because. And that's another thing that, like, high fashion models usually are like, o influencers. Gross. I'm a real model. But she's like, wow, Amira is like a serious influencer. She's badass. I want to be more like her one day. And I'm like, the whole world is topsy turvy. These reality kids are usurping the New York born and breads and the Runway models are kissing the ass of the Tic Tac. Tic Tac. The breath mint models.
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Ronnie Karam
Models. Mira's like, I just landed the Tic Tac campaign. It's amazing. So Ariana.
- [09:18]
Ben Mandelker
So amazing.
- [09:20]
Ronnie Karam
Ariana gives us some more of her backstory. She goes, for, like, my 10th birthday, my mom got me this, like, taxi snow globe because I used to collect snow globes. And I have literally shook that taxi Snow globe for 10 years and prayed to God to get me to New York, get me to New York. And I would have shaken it again this morning, but my mom sold it, so it's unfortunate.
- [09:41]
Ben Mandelker
She actually, like, emptied it, dried it all out, snorted the snow, and all that's left is, like, a crashed taxi.
- [09:49]
Ronnie Karam
With glass all over it.
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Ben Mandelker
My hands were bleeding. It was sad. So she's like, yeah, I've been dreaming of coming to New York. And then we see her on the subway, and it's. You know, she's like, oh, my God. We hear horror music as guys rub up against her.
- [10:01]
Ronnie Karam
Are they just gonna show that footage every week? Every week they're just gonna show her getting out of that same subway train, being pushed to the side, and be like, oh, my God, this is crazy. This was not in the snow globe.
- [10:10]
Ben Mandelker
She's like, I'm here. I'm perfect for New York. Like, my mom already taught me how to do it. I've already got the mouth for it. And then we see it flashback to Kim being like, oh.
- [10:20]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And then we got to Riley, and she's like, moving from Atlanta to New York is really tough, and the city's hectic. So I moved to Brooklyn because it's, like, more calm and you have an actual community. It's been like, five years I've been here, and, like, I don't know, a lot of people just use, like, whoever to get further, which is different from la. And I. I just feel like people actually care about each other here. Here in Brooklyn, it's special.
- [10:44]
Ben Mandelker
What you don't realize is people were also using you in Atlanta. They. It just. They just all seem like family because you've known them since you were a little kid.
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Ronnie Karam
I know. Have you met Todd? So now we cut. Speaking of Atlanta, we now cut to Georgia. The person, not the place. And so Georgia, Charlie, Dylan, and Shai are drinking Oyster. Drinking Oyster Bay. And Georgia's like. I mean, like, this is basically like Hair of the Dog at this point. Oh, my God. I was so drunk last night. I went to this other amazing house party, and it was. It was held at Linda Lavin's gravestone. It was very fresh, but we all had a great time. It was a rave for Linda Lavin.
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Ben Mandelker
Anybody watch Alice? They're like, no, what's that? She's like, oh, my God. What are you children. They all do look like children holding those wine glasses. They're all, like, sitting around trying to be classy with wine glasses, but they're all holding them slightly awkwardly. They're like, I love this wine. Don't you love this wine when you're real adults, you'll be drinking it out of your own personalized bottles just like.
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Ronnie Karam
The rest of us. Yes. So they're like, wow, Georgia, like, you lost your phone. And Charlie's like, yeah, you were, like, fucked up. But then you wound up composing yourself. That's. I guess. Cause you're, like, a real New Yorker. And so he talks about how Georgia. He and Georgia were standing by the elevators at the end of the last episode, and Riley was being so. Georgia said Riley was being so mean about the hand washing. I'm like, you don't get to play the victim here. You are not washing your hands after the bathroom and after touching shoes. And you are the aggressor here. You are not the victim.
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Ben Mandelker
They were being mean to her. Those girls were all being mean to her about her hand washing. I mean, listen, you can be like, it's gross not to wash your hands. Don't touch me. But, like, still laugh about it. But they got really, like. Like, we're pointing at her. Like, she. They were kind of being mean. I mean, do I think you should wash your hands? Of course. But they were mean girly. Yeah.
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Ronnie Karam
But, like, Georgia starts to. She starts to slide into, like, the microaggression. She was being so scary. She was being so scary about it. I was like, okay, settle down, Jeremy McDermott face. Okay, how about you. How about you get some Purell? And then we can discuss this.
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Ben Mandelker
And then we see a clip of it where they're waiting for the elevator, and they're like, wow, look at. Look at her. She's getting really pissed. And then you see her, and she's like. She looks like she's gonna fight. She's, like, spying on them, like, how can I ruin their lives with the best party on earth?
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Ronnie Karam
I'm gonna throw a rave in the Seinfeld Diner. And she's not invited.
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Ben Mandelker
So I really want to be diplomatic about this. You guys get that I had a party for Diplo. It was huge.
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Ronnie Karam
It was huge. Yeah. So then, you know, Charlie is saying how Georgia was like, blackout. And, like, you know, and she's like, you're right. I'm gonna confront Riley on a different day when I'm not blackout. So she says, charlie's been a really good friend, like, Historically, he's been a really good friend, and I've just, like, never met anyone like you, Charlie. He's, like, really unflattered. I guess I've never met anyone quite like you either.
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Ben Mandelker
Really? You haven't. You haven't met bags of dicks living off their dad's money with no ambition of their own, bragging like they actually did something in the world and acting better than everybody else for no reason? Like, for literally no reason. I have a. I have a feeling that you've met plenty of people like that. They're all over the place.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
So George is like Charlie, too. Can I just say, I like Charlie. I don't care what anybody says. Yeah, I think he's a little douchebag, and I can't wait to see his ass get kicked into. Into gear. But I feel like Charlie's got a sadness about him, and I'm a sucker for a boy with some sadness. Like, I think he's genuinely sad. He looks like a not happy person. So, you know, I want to fix him. Well, not a sexual way, but I want to be like, it's okay. You don't have to be like your daddy. The whole point is just to learn to say, fuck you, dad, and do better things.
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Ronnie Karam
You know, he has an emotionally distant father, and, you know, he will never get the approval of his father because his father is also. His father is not only emotionally distant, but his father's also like a silver fox kind of. He kind of looks like a investment banker meets Roger Federer meets, you know, gray hair. And that means that that dad is. Probably has a very active social life and is just not going to pay attention to his son whatsoever. And Charlie will always be seeking the attention and the love of his father, and he's just never going to get it. He's never going to be as successful as his f. Father, never have the same business instincts, and quite frankly, probably won't be as attractive as his father when he gets older. And Charlie has to live with that. So, yeah, I guess there is some sadness.
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Ben Mandelker
I love daddy issues. Yay, Charlie. I'm your hero. I'm a Charlie. Stan the. So he's. He's like, yeah. I mean, Georgia, like, we're, like, real close, so. And she's like, oh, my gosh. He goes, you can finish my wine, too. Just wash your hand. Use it to wash your hands. She goes, oh, my God. I'm never gonna live that down. I swear. Like, I feel like it's really hard to read, Riley, because, like, when she recoiled. I just couldn't read her. I was like, are you being serious? Are you not being serious? I mean, we were drinking, too, so maybe that's why it is, like.
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Ronnie Karam
Maybe it was just that Dylan's like, yeah, Riley, she's really thorny at first, and she, like, tests people, and it's like, the same thing with me, but, like, no, I love that. And George is like, honestly, respect. Respect. Also, I like to add to that.
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Ben Mandelker
Georgia Facts. Yes.
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Ronnie Karam
He's so for real right now.
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Ben Mandelker
She gets mad, but she's like, whatever. They probably didn't mean it anyway, right? Respect. I respect her. So then Dylan's like, yeah, well, she did threaten to punch me when we first met. She goes, oh, my God. Under what circumstances? So then we see Riley, and the producer's like, did you threaten to punch Dylan? And she goes, I didn't really want to punch him in the face, but, like, he was mad because I met him outside at the door at the box. We beefed, but we were there with 10 guys, and you can't go anywhere in New York with 10 guys for free.
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Ronnie Karam
So, yeah, he was like, riley, please let me in. I'm stuck out here with Lexi Wood's dad. Okay, Please get me into the box.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Tiffany's like, I'll line your lips for it, honey.
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Ronnie Karam
So Dylan is talking to Georgia, and he's. And Georgia's like, you know, it was like nothing I said or did resonated. I was kind of, like, catching glances from, like, Riley and Gia, like, the whole night. Reality star Nepo babies. Oh, my God. How disgusting it must be to be someone on a reality show. Am I right, guys?
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Ben Mandelker
And Shai, who's kind of the bimbo of the group, he's like, so, which one's Gia again? And Dylan, who I think is the gay onlyfans model guy, right? I think he's gay. I don't know if he's gay. I'm assuming he's gay.
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Ronnie Karam
I felt like he might be gay. And they sort of alluded to it, but it was never explicitly mentioned. But I think he is.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. I can't tell. He's got good chemistry with Shy, though, whatever's going on there. And he's like, oh, my God. Yeah. Have you seen that video? Like, waking up in the morning thinking about so many things. And she goes, oh, my God, that voice, that audio piece. Oh, my God, I've seen it. What an amazing installation. Was that her?
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Ronnie Karam
I was thinking that we should probably like, do a really cool multimedia interactive, like, Gia Giudice singing the song thing at the Frick. But we invite Diplo. I would love that.
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Ben Mandelker
And Dylan's like, yeah, I love it. But like, it's like a tick tock thing for people who are struggling, you know? Like, it's like sad in full context. And like, I mean, you see, and it doesn't look sad, but it like, is sad. It does look sad. It's a little girl sobbing, singing a song she wrote on her phone badly. What's not sad about it? Out of context.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, we call those kind of things. Charlie's just sort of sad and kind in context. So Dylan is like. Dylan's like, it's actually a good song. It's like, okay, so maybe he is gay. So cut to Gia and Theresa walking down the streets. And Theresa's like, I don't wear your jeans. I like them, Mom.
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Ben Mandelker
I don't like them.
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Ronnie Karam
Just not enough acid washing them, I guess, for Theresa.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So Brooks and Meredith are together, waiting for these two bozos. And Brooks is like, gia and I had fun the other night. What did you do, honey?
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Ronnie Karam
I don't know if you heard, but, like, you know how, like, Charlie went on a date with Chloe. I was like, oh, my God, she's not. This again.
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Ben Mandelker
Jesus Christ, here we go with Brooks again. Yeah, and then he texted me, like, maybe I'll meet you out if I'm not in bed with your sister or whatever. Meredith's like, excuse me.
- [19:11]
Ronnie Karam
Is this not the family whose father figure motorboated a cake of Whitney Rose's boobs? Like, I can't believe how inappropriate Charlie's being. So he's like, yeah, I was like, ew. And long story short, I asked him to talk outside. I don't know, it's like he makes it sound like this devastating thing that happened. And then guess what? We talked outside. So.
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Ben Mandelker
And then I told him, cash me outside. But I didn't really know what it means. I just. I just remember it from TikTok.
- [19:45]
Ronnie Karam
I said, Charlie, are we gonna crash out about this right now? Have you ever had a friend date your sister? He's like, thankfully not, but I can imagine it would have pissed me off. I mean, I didn't mean to disrespect you or her. Don't fuck with my sister. Yeah, okay. That's the energy I need. I like when people, you know, talk down to me and make me realize I'm a piece of shit. It's like hanging out with my dad. Okay, cool. So we're straight. Yeah.
- [20:13]
Ben Mandelker
You need to be sure to stick up for yourself. He's like, we'll talk about it later. And by later, I mean I'm gonna say all of this again in five minutes. So now G and Teresa walk in, and Teresa's like. And they're talking about their moms, how they get along. You guys should come scan the winter. I don't know about skin. I know that there's two eyes in there, right? Wine? No.
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Ronnie Karam
Apra Ski.
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Ben Mandelker
I didn't know she skied. Huh. Apry Winfrey.
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She skis.
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Ben Mandelker
So Teresa. Dumb as ever. So they get their order taken, and the waitress is like, okay, we have some tarot cocktails. And she's like, huh? She goes, yeah, cocktails. I thought you were saying terrible. It did sound like she was saying terrible. I have to.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, she had a lot to give.
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Ben Mandelker
Theresa credit on that one.
- [21:13]
Ronnie Karam
So my mom and I have been friends with Teresa and Gia for, like, the past three years. And, like, Gia as, like, my. She's. She's been like my walking stick for navigating what it's like to have a mom as a housewife. She's not my mouthpiece, but she is my walking stick. What sort of Mr. Potato Head is Brooks assembling with Gia? Can't ask Gia here.
- [21:34]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, Gia is giving him advice on how to deal with it. She's like, yeah, Brooks asked. Like, how do you deal with the backlash? Like, I literally ignore it. Like, when I see a hate comment, I don't even read it. I just, like, delete it. Like, I don't block up because it'll mess up my follow account.
- [21:53]
Ronnie Karam
I cut to Teresa, and she's just waving at the cameraman.
- [21:55]
Ben Mandelker
Hi. She's on my show.
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Ronnie Karam
It was actually really cute. So Gia is like, oh, did you tell your mom what happened the other night? Oh, my God. We were just talking about it.
- [22:08]
Ben Mandelker
What happened?
- [22:10]
Ronnie Karam
Okay, Are you ready for this? Here's what happened. This guy Charlie went on a date with Brooks's sister, and he texted me, and he said, come meet us out after our date, unless your sister and I are already back at my place. Can you even believe it? Hold on. Can we get that waitress who said, taro root taco. Like, terrible taco. Okay. Hey, waitress. This guy Charlie, he texted us and was like, hey, I'm gonna go have sex with your sister. Isn't that terrible? I mean, right?
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Ben Mandelker
Teresa's like, oh, really? Because, like, in my culture, we would have said it. Yeah, okay, well, maybe you'll go. Go back with Chloe if she ain't in my place. That's kind of creepy. Whatever. Live your life. Yeah, Brooks is like basically I explained to him it rubs me the wrong way. And he was like saying g is my mouthpiece. And then we back we flashback to Gia being his mouthpiece, basically, and him being like, why? Why are you his mouthpiece? So Brooks is saying, yeah, like Riley said, I'm too nice. I should have ate him up. But like, you know, like my mouthpiece was talking so I didn't have to do anything. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. One of our favorite streamers, Britbox just came out with a brand new original drama and we are obsessed star. It's called Outrageous and trust me, the title is no exaggeration. We're talking drama, scandal, aristocratic chaos and a whole lot of jaw drops. It's based on the true story of the Mitford sisters. Think Kardashians if they were aristocrats in the 1930s with wildly clashing politics and a flair for international scandal. And chances are you've never heard their story. It's stunning. It's delicious. It's very British. So check out Outrageous streaming only on Britbox. You're welcome.
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Ronnie Karam
So the producer is like Brooks is Gia, your mouthpiece. Well, how. How do I say I. I can't say it how I want to say it. Gia's like, okay, well, you could just be like, I wouldn't say g is my mouthpiece, but she chimes in when needed. Okay, I wouldn't say that G is my mouthpiece, but she chimes. Wait, now you guys are going to edit this together? So I'm literally repeating what she just told me to say. I'm like, you did just literally repeat what she. She told me I died. It was so funny.
- [25:56]
Ben Mandelker
Well, you know what? Your sister always gonna have your back. I mean, she's always gonna have your back. All right? She's always gonna have your back. And Meredith's like, I am fiercely protective of my sister. She will not ever cut a lemon without my family's hands on it.
- [26:13]
Ronnie Karam
If I make a white bean salad, it's going to my sister first.
- [26:17]
Ben Mandelker
So. So then Brooks is like, yeah, I'm not good with confrontation. Teresa's like, nah, you know what? I go to 1000 so quick. It's gonna be so fast.
- [26:29]
Ronnie Karam
When I get angry, Watch out. Yeah, like, when my mom gets angry, like, same. She really does. But, like, when she does, I, like, run. I'm like, she. Teresa rarely gets angry.
- [26:39]
Ben Mandelker
Rarely. So then we go to Brooks and Meredith in a confessional, and he's like, I just wish I was more so assertive because, like, since you became a housewife, like, I had to get my head around commentary and stuff, and, like, I don't want to keep being like that, you know? And we see a flashback to Meredith asking Jen Shaw if she liked a comment referring to Bronx as a sassy.
- [27:08]
Ronnie Karam
Facing backlash that I did, like, made me feel so insecure and, like, worthless. It's, like, so hard to come into your own. It's, like, difficult enough, but let alone when thousands of people are weighing in on it and giving their unsolicited opinions about someone they've seen for five. It's on a TV show. It just cuts deeper, which is why I've chosen to be on more reality tv.
- [27:31]
Ben Mandelker
So then they start eating, and she is like, mom, I told you about the girl that doesn't wash her hands, right? Oh, my God. Yeah. Like, I'm with Riley. Like, go to the bathroom. Like, these girls were like, okay, we're gonna come to you. And then, like, they come out of the stall, and Riley's like, are you gonna wash your hands? Girl goes, wait for it. No, I don't wash my hands. Can you believe that?
- [28:01]
Ronnie Karam
That is awful. So Gia's like, yeah. She was like, listen, I'm from the Upper east side, and, like, I grew up touching worms and putting my hands in my face. And they're trying to make this funny bit about, like, Teresa getting mad. It doesn't really work. So Brooks is like. She's actually from the Upper west side. I mean, the same thing.
- [28:19]
Ben Mandelker
I was like, oh, my God, that is so gross. Like, Brooks, you gotta tell her to wash her hands. It's actually not the same thing. And I'm surprised Brooke said that because she's like, yeah, she's from the Upper east side. No, a girl from the Upper east side washes her hands. A girl from the Upper west side. You believe it? Because I'm more of an artsy hippie kind of rich. You know, where they're like, yeah, like germs. Like, only create stronger germs. Guys, we should be thankful for, like, I believe that. Coming from the Upper West, I feel.
- [28:49]
Ronnie Karam
Like for Brooks, Anyone over, like, like 45th street, he's like, they're just old and stupid, so it doesn't matter what side of the island they're on. So now we go to Charlie's apartment, Charlie and Dylan's apartment, and there's all. There's like, weed hanging around because that's their thing. Like, especially Dylan. He's always like, gotta smoke a joint.
- [29:07]
Ben Mandelker
Guys smoke joints. I'm cool. So he's like, yeah, but you know, like, it's hard living with Charlie because, like, he just says, the maids are gonna pick it up. Dude, you gotta be clean. Okay. He's just, like, used to maids cleaning everything. So, like, like, personal standards, bro. Let's find out about Dylan's. I was born in Chicago. I grew up very blue collar. Yeah. MMA. When I was nine, started wrestling in, like, fifth grade. State champion, top 50 blue collar. I used to wrestle with pipes. Actual pipes. Who.
- [29:41]
Ronnie Karam
Who enrolls their child in MMA at 9. I understand doing like karate or whatever.
- [29:47]
Ben Mandelker
But, like, they show pictures of this kid. It's like some 10 year old kid and he's. His nose is all puffy, his face is all puffed. Getting his ass kicked. My God.
- [29:57]
Ronnie Karam
So he's like, yeah, I've always just made money on the Internet. YouTube, Snapchat, Twitch, YouNow, YouPorn, green porn, Elle porn, wrestler porn. Anyway, most of my money these days comes from OnlyFans. Definitely does not come from this show. Thanks for not putting me on the. On the poster for this show. Thanks a lot. Bravo.
- [30:14]
Ben Mandelker
Even though I'm Hands down, the hottest person on this show.
- [30:17]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, thanks for putting Shy on the poster. Yeah, you put Shy on the poster and not this guy. This guy's the hottest guy in the cast. And you guys are, like, not gonna try to use him to get eyeballs on the show. Come on.
- [30:26]
Ben Mandelker
Bravo. So they ask how his friends make money. He's like, I don't know. Shot. Yeah, I know Shaw. And he's like, yeah, Charlie. Like, I don't know. I don't think Charlie even makes money. Well, maybe he's like, trust fund. Like, good for him, bro. Like, good for him. You want to join?
- [30:43]
Ronnie Karam
So then we cut to Charlie in his dad's apartment, and his dad is, like, so stereotypically, like, like, invest investment bank financier father who has a cold and frosty relationship with his son and who, like, substitutes money for emotional support. And he's like, so, hello. How was your crypto trading going? He's like, my Bitcoin dropped 20%. So, like. Or some. Something like that. And he's like, well, very nice. Your failure now.
- [31:14]
Ben Mandelker
So Dylan, he's like, buying hold is not a trading strategy, Charlie. It's an investment strategy. And Dylan's like, yeah. Like, I think he, like, it's an allowance or, like, it's like, got a trust fund. I don't know. Like, maybe he shouldn't be working. Who cares? And Charlie's like, yeah, I grew up on the Upper east side where my whole life was about being cool and.
- [31:34]
Ronnie Karam
Being rich and didn't Lindsay Lohan. So Anwar, his dad, is like, we should also look. We also book your ticket to Greece. What happened last year? Because I went to. I went with unaccust last year. It's like, yeah, well, I don't think I was invited. Also, who's unaq? Oh, your new mother. Oh, okay.
- [31:51]
Ben Mandelker
He goes, classic. He's like, uno, My favorite. Sorry you didn't get to invite. And left it up to Unak. He's like, yeah. So I guess it's just confirmed on camera. Deep down, I know I'm your favorite, right, dad? He goes, oh, do you? All right, well, perception is reality, so it's all about how you feel.
- [32:10]
Ronnie Karam
Stupid, I guess. Una is his sister. So Charlie's like, yeah, my dad is a very good father, but, like, not a great dad. Like, when I say he's a good father, I mean, he made sure that we all have, you know, fucking food on the table, bro. But we didn't have, like, I don't know, relationship where I felt all that comfortable you know, talking to him and emotional nonsense. He would make it worse, honestly. I mean, like, cut to unaq. Being like, my dad and I talk about things emotionally every single day. And he's very invested in my life, and when I have a hard day, he is. He drops everything and comes to me.
- [32:40]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, well, I have a feeling Charlie was doing cocaine in, like, the second grade. So, like, a lot of times parents are just emotionally distant, and that's the parents fault. But a lot of the times people are seeking approval from their parents without doing anything to approve of, and I feel like Charlie. Charlie falls in that category. Like, if you want your dad to respect you, do something that's respectable. Not taking his money and investing it in bitcoin. You lose her.
- [33:04]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, exactly. So then Ava is talking to us, and she's like, I think, like, what'd you say?
- [33:10]
Ben Mandelker
Still love you now.
- [33:12]
Ronnie Karam
I don't know. I'm not a Charlie Stan just yet. Ava's like, I think that, like, oh, sorry. Now we cut to Amira and Ava going in the park, and Amira's like, I'm gonna be like, so dead ass with you. I don't really walk around the city. I don't really stroll, like, let alone in nature or a park. I'm like, more of a hop in an Escalade, step out, hair perfect, walk in the door, dead ass. Ava and I, we've been like, friends dead ass for a couple years now, and we do a lot of the same work facts, even though it's, like, very different because she's more of tradition model and I'm more content creator slash model. Yeah.
- [33:55]
Ben Mandelker
Ava's like, amazed with her tick tocking. She's like, I need to be more like that girl. And she's like, oh, my God, there's like a bug in my shoes. She goes, oh, my God. Yeah. We are not nature girlies. So they start talking about the Hermes party, and Amara's like, yeah, I couldn't do it. Had dinner with Kevin Small. I mean, he might go. He might be. We might go home to Dallas that week. It's. It's amazing. Never brought a boy home.
- [34:20]
Ronnie Karam
So, Yeah, I mean, like, dating this guy, Kevin, Sweetest boy ever. Dead ass. This is my first serious relationship. And Ava's like, well, so what's your dad's vibe like? You know, because my dad, for example, like, the first time he met my boyfriend, my dad came out hot. He was like, do you love her? Are you marrying her? Mirrors like, oh, my God. Like, no, my dad does not Give that same energy. He's more, like, chill, I feel like.
- [34:51]
Ben Mandelker
So then we see Ava has a new boyfriend, and his. His name is Hook. He's like, the best part of a song, so. Oh, People were getting honest for not mentioning that Ava Dash was dating Diana Jenkinson on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. We saw her on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, like, sitting on a couch with the sun.
- [35:13]
Ronnie Karam
Oh, I'm sorry that I blocked. I did not remember that very important thing. But you're right. That's. That's. I totally forgot about.
- [35:21]
Ben Mandelker
I was reminded, and I was like, yeah.
- [35:23]
Ronnie Karam
And wasn't his name Anwar?
- [35:26]
Ben Mandelker
I don't know. I blocked that. I blocked that all off. I don't know. I'm not impressed when people just date someone famous as their resume. I don't. I don't get that. So Ava. So I don't care. In other words, I'll let Ava stand for herself. So Ava's like, well, we did say that I love you, and so that's a huge deal. She goes, oh, my God. Period. Period. Right. Love you, love you. Love, love. I love love. I'm obsessed with love. Not nature, though. Nature. Okay, my love. Yes. Now the combo moves on to Charlie. They need to move. Fix Charlie up with some. I can't believe Charlie's not settling down. Who wouldn't want to be with that package of doing nothing with his life? But they want to set him up. And what's her. But Amira thinks that Ava should date Charlie because they've got, like, chemistry. So.
- [36:18]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. You know, like, when you have, like, two friends in the friend group, and you're, like, in high school, and you're, like, driving around in your Escalade, I'd like to add. And, like, they're in the backseat, and you're, like, looking into rearview mirror, and you're like, is there a bug in your shoe? Seriously? Period. Not a nature girly. And you're like, what the fuck is going on back there?
- [36:38]
Ben Mandelker
But Ava needs a guy who's motivated, who will also motivate her because she needs to work harder. So that's not Charlie. I would say your energy levels are similar. You know, they've got very. Both, like, Ava's just like, hey, she's got kind of a dis. Maybe a distance is a better way to put it. She seems to have kind of a distance that he has.
- [37:02]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
- [37:02]
Ben Mandelker
So anyway, we'll see how they leave a man named Hook.
- [37:08]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. A goose lands by them, and they're like, oh, my God, that Goose is, like, iconic. It's time to go.
- [37:15]
Ben Mandelker
I'm like, I like the. Actually, the goose lands is just. No, get away. Fuck off. The geese are monsters for those they are. They will chase you and bite you. Kyle Richardson, even though those were swans. But I feel like everywhere Kyle goes, rich birds try to attack her. Rich birds. So we go to Anwar's. Charlie and Anwar at Anwar's apartment again. And so they're talking about how Dylan just moved in with Charlie in their new spot. And he's like, you know, his money comes from OnlyFans. You know what that is, dad? Sexy photos. And he leverages his muscles. And his dad's like, yeah, well, maybe you should be in the apartment while they shooting some. Maybe it will inspire you to do something, like work out or anything. I don't know.
- [38:04]
Ronnie Karam
He's like, well, he'll keep that in his room, I'm sure. But I'm not like, he's. It's not like he's doing gay sex scenes. He's just, like, posing in the mirror. Elmar's like, interesting. Can we monetize that? He's like, well, at a certain point, you just got to respect it, you know? Right. Dad, this is my way of saying, would it be cool if I opened up an open only fans where? Well, if that's what he likes, then that's what he likes. But why don't you work out with him? Why don't you actually kind of like, just sort of join him and I don't know, if you can't be smart or successful, at least look better, you know?
- [38:31]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Why don't you do something? Anything. He's like, my dad's so mean to me. So then we go to Hudson and Ariana, lost and looking for the address of a fabric store. B and J Fabrics. Excuse me.
- [38:46]
Ronnie Karam
So they're looking at.
- [38:48]
Ben Mandelker
Do they have a stitch? I don't think so.
- [38:52]
Ronnie Karam
So they are looking at fabrics. And she's like, the name of our brand is Adored Angels. Because I was in my closet looking at all my clothes, and I was thinking about angel numbers. And then, like, there's also a door. And I was like, there's a door in this closet and there's angel. I got it. Adored Angels. Perfect. So I'm in New York and my creativity is, like, going. So, like, this is like Candyland of fabric, and this is where dreams are made into fru. Right? I said it right. Hudson. I said fruition, not flotician or flourishin' Isn't that funny? Anyway, I Wish I knew how to make dresses.
- [39:26]
Ben Mandelker
I was sitting there staring at my closet and, like, I was looking around and the name came to me. Temu Hudson. Said I couldn't use that. So I just went with the door. Angel. It's what I call a dog. So, you know, we're here together. We're gonna do a business lunch. Right, Hudson. And write everything down. Because I just want to make sure if something happens between us, which it won't, but in case it does, I want you not to be able to steal my business like my parents. So that would be good. And also, we need security against my mother. We need a bank account that my mother can't get into. She'll use her face. She put her face ID in my phone. I'm telling you that right now.
- [40:00]
Ronnie Karam
He's like, don't worry, you can have 51%, I'll have 49%. I just want you to feel safe in knowing that I'm not gonna steal everything, especially because I'm a wealthy heir and I already have my own fortune. So you can have your adored angel line where you're gonna wrap some fabric around a mannequin and call it a door.
- [40:16]
Ben Mandelker
It's like, but you can seal it from me. She's like, oh, my God. Perfect. Let's shop. So they go shopping and she's talking about how she wants to reconnect with Riley since they're going to be on the same TV show again, but they haven't talked since they were little babies. And like, we shouldn't let our mom stuff get in the way of our stuff. So she texts Riley and she's like, oh, my God, what should I say to Riley? Temu? It's like, stop trying to make that happen. It's already a thing, babe.
- [40:39]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. She's like, I would love to see. You would love to catch up after 10 years. So, yeah, they're gonna go get coffee or that they're proposing to get coffee. And Riley gets the text. She's like, okay. So then we cut to Ava having lunch with her dad, Dame and Dash. And Dame's like, I'm the cooler. I'm cooler than the average 53 year old. I was like, you're 53? There's no way that he is 53. He looks like he is 68 these days. Life has been hard on him.
- [41:08]
Ben Mandelker
He's like, he's been living it hard over there.
- [41:12]
Ronnie Karam
He has been living it hard. He's like, I'm not. I'm just. I'm not gonna say I'm cooler than your average 24 year old, but I am cooler than your average 53 year old.
- [41:20]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So he's like, yeah, you know, she tells us he's discovered the biggest names in hip hop and he's a serial entrepreneur. And I was like, yes, Captain Crunch. He's always thinking about work, always different opportunities. And he's like, yeah, Dame Dash's daughter, she's got a black belt and street shit. A black belt and artsy fartsy shit. Downtown and Park Avenue, all of it.
- [41:43]
Ronnie Karam
She. And she says that she grew up in New York City until she was 14. Then she moved to LA with her mom because Rachel Roy moved there and he.
- [41:51]
Ben Mandelker
After trying to fuck up Beyonce's life. I'm sorry, go ahead.
- [41:55]
Ronnie Karam
And then he's talked about how when they moved to la, he had to shut down all his galleries, everything, business, just so he could move out there. I'm like, well, what sort of. Listen, Damon Dash, I know you're massively successful, but. But I don't know if I believe this. You're really successful and you have to close on all these things just to move to la.
- [42:11]
Ben Mandelker
No. And then this story came out yesterday. Well, this Reddit thread. Next gen star Ava dash evicted from $10,000 a month Manhattan apartment as record exec Damon admits he's broke the sun.
- [42:23]
Ronnie Karam
Well, there it is. Pilfered all the money away, Damon. So he's like, how's your money? Can I have some? I've been getting some tips from Kim Ziak about financial planning, and she's like, like, it's okay, but it needs to keep coming in, you know, And I just. I want a model. It's what makes me happy right now. I just really want to try. I just want to see how far I can go as a model.
- [42:45]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And he's like, no, you. You need an entrepreneurial spirit. You'd be a great CEO. I'll just keep making companies until you find one that you want. So he asked about the mom, and she's like, I wish you guys could get along, but, like, I have the best of both worlds because I've got like, like a mom who takes me to, like, fashion things, and I've got a dad who takes me to, like, concerts. You know, like one weekend I'm at Deepak Chopra's retreats in Hawaii, and then I'm going to concerts with you. But it's just hard, you guys not getting along.
- [43:19]
Ronnie Karam
And so he's asking about, like, her friend group, and she's like, yeah, Ava, Brooks and Riley and Charlie, this new girl, Ariana. Oh, are they all trust fund babies? Well, Ariana's more of a distrust no funds baby. But everyone else. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.
- [43:32]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So she goes, by the way, his. His alarm goes off to give him. Give himself insulin. And he's like, by the way, do we have a health insurance dad? And he's like, I mean, I know we have health insurance. I. No. He goes, I know I have health insurance. And she's like, dad. But like, I have acne and I can't have acne for my job and I need to take out my IUD too. And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this with you. And he gets up and walks out. She's like, dad, give me insurance. And then I. I can take care of it myself. You're not getting insurance. I just read the sign.
- [44:05]
Ronnie Karam
Nope.
- [44:06]
Ben Mandelker
So get a job.
- [44:07]
Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
So, yeah, sometimes it pays to be a little nosy, but it always pays to Discover.
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
I have to say, I'm a big, big fan of quince. And I have actually put in an order for a Flknit Breeze performance pocket tee that I'm very excited a rock around LA this summer.
- [45:37]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, we both love quince. We wear it all the time. I even use quints to buy stuff for my father because he's trying to get more fashionable and quints is the way to do it.
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Ronnie Karam
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- [46:35]
Ben Mandelker
None of your business. So they meet up in a park and they're like, oh, my God, this is going to be crazy. What's it going to be like seeing her? And they're like, hi. Hi. This is crazy. This is crazy. I got a picture of us. We were so chunky. We were. Let's hang out. Okay.
- [46:53]
Ronnie Karam
Come to Brooklyn. You'll meet friends. So that's what the plan is, that Riley's going to bring Ariana into the group. By the way, you. You know what's so funny is that in the trailer and all the stuff for this show, Riley was barely in it. She was so minimized. I was like, okay, I guess Riley's just going to be sort of like thrown in there because they want to have like, you know, Candy's daughter in there and, you know, she'll lose her phone in the water. But Riley's actually been very central on the show. So it's just. I don't. I, like, I'm still very confused about the marketing strategy given that Dylan's not on the posters. Riley is a big part of the show. I don't get it.
- [47:27]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, Riley's actually got a huge part in this show. She's kind of the central natural person. At least right now she is. And all the stories.
- [47:33]
Ronnie Karam
She is. Yeah.
- [47:34]
Ben Mandelker
So now let's go play mini golf with Amira and Kevin. They're going to pottery. So she's like, oh, my God. We have, like the same sense of humor. Okay. The first second I thought saw this guy, I was like, amira, is dating a guy in jorts.
- [47:48]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
- [47:48]
Ben Mandelker
I never saw this one coming. I mean, don't tell you, this show can't surprise you because it's. That shit's crazy.
- [47:54]
Ronnie Karam
This is. It is. It is. This is weird. This is like, Gertie and Russell. I was like, wait, these two are together? So she's like, oh, my God. Like, I just love to date someone who's, like, very calm and grounded in the most insane experiences because I'm, like, so neurotic. Although I like to say neurotic. Tock. Get it? And I'm just, like, running on Steam 24 7. So I just, like, really into him.
- [48:18]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, we met on Hinge. Hashtag hinge wedding. So she's like, oh, my God, honey, I have to be on my phone for a second because I've got so many TikTok comments. Like, I need to check out my tick tock comments.
- [48:30]
Ronnie Karam
Sorry.
- [48:31]
Ben Mandelker
Okay. Oh, my God, you must be going crazy with me on my phone. And he's like, yeah, it's not as bad as it used to be. She's like, oh, my God. Like, literally, when I met you, all I did was like, stare at my phone.
- [48:41]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And he's like, yeah. I didn't even realize when we started dating that you were, like, such a big deal. Like, you were a tick tock sensation. She's like, yeah. What was the first thing that I really brought you to that you were like, oh, I'm like, a big deal. He's like, what was this? Something Parada. Piranha. Parada. Oh, my God. Pirotta Beauty.
- [49:03]
Ben Mandelker
She's like, oh, my God. Kevin, like, legit does not give a about any of this. Like, and I've been burned in the past with boards. Who just, like, climbed the ladder? I'm just like, a rung. A rung on the ladder to the top. Look at them all. Look at them all. I mean, look at them all. Look at all those people on the top that dated me first. I'm like, could you name a few? I'm wondering, what is the Tick Tock ladder? I want to know. Like, I'm just curious as an elder, like, like, what the fuck is this TikTok Ladder and how do you climb it? And who's at the top?
- [49:33]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, well, the person who's at the top of it just got deported from the United States. I don't know if you read that. So, Kevin, he's like. I mean, yeah, compared to, like, mine, I'm like a regular 9 to 5 person. And your Goals are, like, crazy. Yeah. Like cover a vogue, right? What they got the. The guy who has the Most followers on TikTok was. Was, I guess, in Las Vegas and ICE deported him.
- [50:03]
Ben Mandelker
Kabi, Kobby Lane, Kobe. Lame.
- [50:05]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And it's because everything is wild right now. And it's.
- [50:10]
Ben Mandelker
Well, there was another girl that I. I saw trying to, like, get into the Tick Tock offices, sobbing. She's like, guys, let me back in. She had 2 million. 2.5 million followers. And they kicked her off Tick Tock because one of her videos was paying a. To jump into a lake. And then the homeless person took it and couldn't swim. And then she ran away. She filmed it and then ran away on her phone, like, recording a TikTok about it. And she got banned from TikTok and lost all of her TikTok income overnight. So she's like, on the outside, like, banging on the doors, like, let me in. Let me in. I'm sorry. I was like, TikTok is the end of the world.
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Ronnie Karam
Wow.
- [50:49]
Ben Mandelker
That's it.
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Ronnie Karam
So now we go to George's apartment. Apartment, and she's texting, she's sending out invitations, and she's like, I'm not really excited to see Riley again. I just think that, like, she just doesn't get me. Okay, so they're all going to a bar. They're all gonna. They're all gonna gather here. This big thing, like a Brooklyn die, okay?
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Ben Mandelker
Riley's gonna have everybody come to Brooks. So they do, and they're going across the Brooklyn Bridge. She meets Shai and the new people. And Shai's like, oh, so where do you live? She goes, yeah, I just moved to Brooklyn. So that's why we're having Brooklyn night. He goes, oh, my God, you're Brooklyn. So I'm crashing your Brooklyn night. Whoa. Wow, that's amazing. So nice to meet you.
- [51:32]
Ronnie Karam
So Ariana Hudson and Brooks are in a car together, and Brooks is like, did Riley fill you in about the night we went out? Ariana's like, no. Well, just about the washing hand situation. Oh. I was gonna talk about the thing that Charlie said about my sister, but we can. And in fact, that's what he did. He goes, charlie, I mean, you know, you're. You're about to. Me. Oh, yeah, you told me about that, about your sister. Yeah, you told me that. Actually, I think, like, times already in this car ride. Oh, my bad.
- [51:58]
Ben Mandelker
Driver, could you make a left up there at Charlie disrespected my sister street. Thanks. So we go back to shine Riley. And he's like, oh, I got introduced to this group through Dylan. And she's like, I thought Charlie. Didn't you say Charlie? He goes, oh, no. So like, I knew Dylan for like, five years in a row, like after his YouTube era, but before his, like, you know, other era. Look who else is coming? And she's like, brooks. And Ava's like, doing her own things. Amir's out of town. Ariana, her boyfriend coming. And so, yeah, you know, our parents knew each other because of tv. So then back to Hudson and Brooks. Hudson's like, you know, like, I would address it for you, you know, if, like, he wants to brag about it to you or something. And Brooks is like, no, we're past it. We're past Charlie, like, disrespecting me about my sister. Oh, my God, I'm so mad again about it.
- [52:53]
Ronnie Karam
It.
- [52:54]
Ben Mandelker
We need to do something about this tonight. I'm going to talk to him.
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Ronnie Karam
I have, like, the worst anxiety because I hate confrontation. And even though theoretically we already confronted each other about it and squashed it, I hate the idea of, like, how I'm going to probably confront him again because I can't believe he keeps bringing it up. So they're like, okay, cool. So now we go back to Shai and Riley and. And Charlie's talking. He's like, who else is coming? And Riley goes, oh, Ariana. And her boyfriend. And Shy goes, yeah, her mom was on Atlanta Housewives. And Charlie goes, yeah, I'm a little aware. Okay, settle down. You're on a reality show too now, sir. Whatever high ground you think you have is only because your dad literally lives on the top floor of a skyscraper. But that's it.
- [53:34]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, it's really weird. So the guys start mean girling Ariana, right? So Charlie's like, well, her mom's complaining about foreclosing on her house. I mean, that's the mom lore. And they're like, wait, what? This girl. This girl who's coming is like, yeah, trash, basically. So then Brooks tells us that when they were starting filming, Charlie found out there were more housewives kids and got really pissed. And we were talking about how it makes us feel weird because we're housewives kids. So is that how you feel about us? No, he's okay to use one of you, but he's not okay to share a show with all of us. You.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, he has. I just think it's just so pun intended, rich to have snobbery about someone being a reality star when you yourself are A reality star. Like, you're going down the path of reality stardom. And also, again, we know you were hanging out with that. That wack doodle crypto bro who abducted someone or, like, was torturing someone. So don't think that you come from great stock either, okay? Like, your past is actually probably way more checkered than Ariane.
- [54:39]
Ben Mandelker
Us.
- [54:40]
Ronnie Karam
I mean, and I'm not taking away. Kim is a disaster. We all don't like him.
- [54:43]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, but it's just not cool. It's like this new girl's coming into the group and it's the guys who are all sitting there, like, laughing in her face, being dicks. I mean, these guys so mean, so. And she's like, oh, my God, I don't know anybody. Like, I'm so excited to meet people. So she comes in and they're being dicks. So she's like, hey, nice to meet you guys. I've heard so many amazing things. And Dylan goes, yeah, sure, we've heard all kinds of things about you. Yeah, yeah. They're like, yeah. She goes, I bet. And goes, yeah, Charlie's really excited to talk to you. Right, Charlie? And Charlie's like, why are you. Why are you grabbing me, bro? You made your bed. Lie in it. And he's like, yeah, we've heard all kinds of things. And then Charlie goes, yeah, it's crazy how you can get a. How fast you can get a read on somebody. She didn't even do anything except say hello. You guys, I know.
- [55:32]
Ronnie Karam
Seriously, you're passing all this judgment and your roommates on Only fans, okay? And like, not saying that only fans are deserving of judgment, but like, the.
- [55:39]
Ben Mandelker
Same person, but you ain't winning an Oscar for it. You know what I mean? Get the off your high horse and back on a dick.
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Ronnie Karam
Dude, if the same person who's rolling their eyes at foreclosure is probably going to roll their eyes at OnlyFans too. So, like, you're pretty selective here. So Ariana's like, well, I've helped my whole life with a. With a preconceived notion going into me. Like, even in middle school, people weren't allowed to be friends with me because of my mom. People were always like, oh, she's just like her mom nasty. Well, she's just like her mom, white trash. And those two things may be true. However, know me first before you come to that conclusion.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, so then Georgia is coming. So Charlie's like, yo, Georgia's almost here. Do you guys have Purell ready to give her And Ariana goes, I have mine. And he goes, what do you mean? You didn't even know about it? Only I'm allowed to make fun of Georgia. I know you.
- [56:27]
Ronnie Karam
He got so spicy about this. He's. I mean, this guy is a real prick. He is really like the worst kind of person. And so he's the worst.
- [56:36]
Ben Mandelker
I hate him now, damn it. I liked him for one minute because he was hurting inside side.
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Ronnie Karam
And again, this is the guy who is like, ew, her mom's going through foreclosure and is in tabloids. And meanwhile, his bestie is like, you know, like, handling feces and like, shaking people's hands. And the other besties on only fans. And like, he's doing bitcoin. Whatever. Like, you're nothing special here. You're just as checkered as the rest of us. So. So Ariana's like, okay, well, welcome to New York. You either love me or hate me. It is what it is. Is. So she's like, what the is up with these people?
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, she's flustered, but she's kind of dealing. And Hudson's like, it's okay, I love you. That's all that matters, right? I'm richer than all these people. Please don't worry about it. He's. He's confused by my dry, long Duck Dynasty hair, but he'll find out soon enough. What's that?
- [57:25]
Ronnie Karam
Bringing sideburns back? He's confusing my sideburns with simplicity. But no, the devil went down to Georgia and gave me Josh Groban's hair. And now I'm sure, here to wreak havoc.
- [57:35]
Ben Mandelker
So they're asking where Chloe is. And Charlie's like, oh. Brooks is like, I don't know, she's in la and like, you're not hitting her up tonight or ever again. And he's like, oh, stop, you don't mean that. When she back from la, so I know when to hit her up. And Brooks is like, ew, I just feel so sick. I just want to be left out of it. Why is he doing this to me? He's trying to get under my skin.
- [57:59]
Ronnie Karam
So then Georgia shows up and she's like, don't everyone, don't worry. I actually washed my hands. So she has a nice one with Riley.
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Ben Mandelker
She's like, can I hug you, Riley? I wash my hands. I'm learning from you. Okay?
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And Charlie's like, this weird girl, Ariana, who we just met, has been speaking about the whole hand washing concept.
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Ben Mandelker
She didn't even.
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Ronnie Karam
You brought it up. You brought it up.
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Ben Mandelker
And she said, I have mine. Just meaning she has some in her bag. She wasn't doggy. Georgia.
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Ronnie Karam
Georgia, possibly also, why is it like, what? Why is it okay for you to talk about all about Ariana, but she can't gossip and kiki with Brooks about Georgia? Like, you guys are all talking about each other, you dumb.
- [58:44]
Ben Mandelker
So he's like, yeah, I think she's kind of a. And I don't know this chick, this girl Ariana, like, by the way, she has the sweetest cuck boyfriend named Hudson who's like, super chill. And George is like, oh, my God, you're terrible. So then inside Riley's like, yeah, don't take it seriously. It's just how he is, you know, he's a dick. And Hudson's like, he's ridiculous. Like, what the fuck?
- [59:08]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, Bruce is like. He was like, where's Chloe? Where's Chloe? Literally, that fucking hurts me. He's disrespecting my sister.
- [59:17]
Ben Mandelker
That's why he's doing it. So then we. They come back into the room, room, and George is like, I mean, like, it's still about the hand washing. Like, it's like, when. When I will and will not wash my hands. I mean, it's my body, my choice. Am I right?
- [59:32]
Ronnie Karam
Please don't go off that for your hand washing. So Brooks is like, oh, my God. Oh my God. I am like, not okay. Ariana's like, okay, well, okay, so what is the philosophy behind it? Because I wash my hands a lot. Just not like every time I go to the bathroom. Like maybe like once a month. I don't know. Ariana's like, oh, I just thought, like, you hadn't washed your hands in like 20 years or whatever, however old you are.
- [59:57]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. She's like, yeah, I thought you, like, never washed her. She goes, no. And Riley's like, I didn't say that. And Georgia goes, well, you did say, like, a little judgmental. Like, you were like, a little scary about it. There, there, I was scared. And then we see the clip of her being like, don't hug me. So then Riley's like, you think I'm scary? And she goes, when you go to public restrooms, do you sit on the toilet? And she's like, I mean, yeah, yeah. And they're like, no, everybody, don't do that.
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Ronnie Karam
And there's some guy there.
- [60:26]
Ben Mandelker
Toilet paper on the sea. You're gonna get a vd.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, there's some guy there named Doug who's like, okay, everyone, honestly, I know we're shooting a reality show, and this is like. Some of this may be fake, but I have to, like, be real. I have to be so for real right now. Don't sit on the toilet seat, okay? Do not do that.
- [60:42]
Ben Mandelker
So they all end up laughing about it because they're all on her ass now, too. She just can't be mad about it because it's silly. Listen. So now they go to a different club, and they walk over there, and Riley's like, You know, Brooks is all upset, you know, so he's going off to Ariana, and she's still upset that this guy was a dick. So Riley's like, you know what Charlie does is he waits until you're vulnerable and then he strikes. So now Gia's not there, and I'm not sitting there. So of course he's gonna go up to Brooks and say something crazy. Cause he doesn't have backup, you know? And she goes, but he does not know Ariana very well. Well, like, Brooks may be. Brooks may cry about it for weeks on end. Ariana will burn your house down. She's a ziac.
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Ronnie Karam
She is a zak.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
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Ronnie Karam
At the end of the day, one of Kim's greatest features is that, like, she is shameless in confrontation. So Ariana is like, okay, Charlie, I'm going to be completely blunt. I'm not really sure why you're being a dick. And I don't really get it. This was not part of my snow globe, okay? And he's like, why am I the one. Like, what? Oh, what is this? She's. You said no, you said another comment about his sister. And Brook's like, yeah, you can't make jokes about my sister, Charlie. Oh, my God, that was so scary.
- [61:54]
Ben Mandelker
And she's like, yeah, why are you being a dick? And he says, I don't know you. Like, I mean, I was very respectful. Like, this is crossing a weird line, guys. Like, what? Like, is this about to be a whole ass thing? And she. This is what I loved. She goes, you're supposed to be the elder, right? Because we're, like, 22 and you're 29. So I was like, oh, yes. You're calling a man about to be 30 with zero achievement still living off his daddy old. That's the best thing you could have done in the situation at a girl.
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Ronnie Karam
And she. And he goes, you guys are groomed very well to do this nonsense. And, like, I'll fake beef with you. I'll fake beef with your girl. I'll do the whole thing. Bro. Like, I could do the reality star thing. So again, he's again, trying to act like he's like, above, you know, know, being a reality star while he is actively on one and in a fight that is being used to market the show and sell it on Bravo to get.
- [62:46]
Ben Mandelker
And he started the fight too. And so Hudson's like, there's no beef. Like, you. You've been a dick since I've met you, bro. And he's like, step away. I'm trying to go to a party. So they're like, okay, go to a party. And then Charlie's like, I mean, you and I could step around the corner. Charlie, you would get your head beat in even against this billionaire. This is a billionaire, but this is a fried chicken billionaire. You really want to.
- [63:07]
Ronnie Karam
That's right. Yeah. Yeah, he's tough. So Brooks is like, let's be real here. I hope it doesn't get to that point because, like, I'm not breaking up this fight. And Riley goes, so dramatic.
- [63:21]
Ben Mandelker
And Hudson goes, oh, yeah, you want to act some type of way in your corduroy pants, whatever. I don't care.
- [63:27]
Ronnie Karam
Yes.
- [63:28]
Ben Mandelker
Hudson. Hudson for the win. Who knew I'd end up loving the guy with no conditioner? But I love.
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Ronnie Karam
I know, right? And he's had good takes this entire time. He's like, I really don't care for any of that fist fight around the corner. I'm not really trying to get sued by his dad or whatever the hell could happen. So Charlie goes, listen, I just want to go to this party, okay? They're planning to go to this party, and that's where I want to go to the party. And Ariana's like, well, they go to your party. Be disrespectful next time I see you. Well, guess what? I'm going to the party, okay? So now I'll definitely be disrespectful. Especially at, you guessed it, the party.
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Ben Mandelker
George was like, you guys, like. I mean, like, Charlie, like, literally doesn't give a. But in that moment, he gets a. You know what I mean? It's like in Harry Met Sally when that lady was like, can I have what she's having? Like, we haven't seen this movie because they're children. So that was episode two.
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Ronnie Karam
That's it. That was fun. Fun episode. It got me mad, Kind of gave me all the emotions, made me laugh, made me angry. That's all I want from his show, you know?
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Ben Mandelker
Made me want to go to a party.
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Ronnie Karam
Let's go to the party.
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Ben Mandelker
Let's go to the party, you guys. All right, everybody. Thanks for being here. We'll see you tomorrow night in Seattle. Seattle. Or tonight, I guess when this is being released, we'll be in Seattle. Hi, Seattle. We're here. Oh, my God. Love it here. And next week in LA to recap the Valley. We'll see you guys there. Thanks for being with us. We'll talk to you next time.
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C
I lost my narrative, or rather it was stolen from me. And the Monica Lewinsky that my friends and family knew was usurped by false narratives, callous jokes, and politics. I would define reclaiming as to take back what was yours. Something you possess is lost or stolen, and ultimately you triumph in finding it again. So I think listeners can expect me to be chatting with folks both recognizable and unrecognizable names about the way that people have navigated roads to triumph. My hope is that people will finish an episode of Reclaiming and feel like they filled their tank up, they connected with the people that I'm talking to, and leave with maybe some nuggets that help them feel a little more hopeful. Follow Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Reclaiming early and ad free right now by joining Wondery in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.
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Ronnie Karam
Every big moment starts with a big dream. But what happens when that big Dream turns out to be a big Flop. From Wondery and ill Media, I'm Misha Brown, and this is the Big Flop. Every week, comedians join me to chronicle the biggest flubs, fails, and blunders of all time.
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You give yourself your own nickname and you try to, like, get other people to do it.
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Ronnie Karam
And the 2019 movie adaptation of Cats. Like, if I'm watching the dancing and I'm noticing the feet aren't touching the ground, there's something wrong with the movie. Find out what happens when massive hype.
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C
Turns into major fiasco.
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Ronnie Karam
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