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Ben Mandelker
Hi, everybody. Welcome to Watch what crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi.
Ronnie Karam
Hi, Ronnie. How are you?
Ben Mandelker
Good. Both pretty hairy today. Growing out your facial hair over there. Getting a little goatee.
Ronnie Karam
I know. I got a shave. I got a shave. It's actually itching. That's when I know it's time to shave, is when itches.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, a little itchiness. Hi, everybody. Welcome to the show. Happy Monday. We do our final show in Los Angeles Thursday night covering the Valley. We're super excited. Come check us out in la. So the end of our Mounting Hysteria tour. We are also doing Love island recaps every day that we record, which is three or four times a week over on our Patreon. The latest one just went up for a very crazy episode of Love island last night. Go check that out. If you want videos of all our recaps, just join us on Patreon as well. Or you can get them free a week later over on our YouTube channel. Just search. Watch what crappens in YouTube. How you feeling today, buddy?
Ronnie Karam
Feeling great. I'm so excited. I'm really excited for our show on Thursday. Like, really, really, really excited. And I'm like, honestly, Love island was so good last night that I've just been kind of like riding that high. Oh, also we're going to be on Julia Cunningham show tomorrow on Radio Andy. So keep an ear out for that on csxm.
Ben Mandelker
And also we are on the Big Flop today. We did a Jen Shaw episode with Misha. So go check that out. The Big Flop. Jen Shaw. We're all over. We're just like all over the place.
Ronnie Karam
All over.
Ben Mandelker
You know where else I appeared this week? Nordstrom Rack. There's a Nordstrom rack over in NoHo. West. I didn't even know how west was a thing, but it's like this place with the Nordstrom rack. So I went there. It was amazing.
Ronnie Karam
Is noho west the thing that's, like, on, like, where that Macy's was like Laurel Canyon and. Yeah, yeah, they redeveloped all that. I haven't been to it.
Ben Mandelker
Really nice. So I was there yesterday. Hi, everybody. Okay, so today is Real House Wolves of Atlanta. I loved this episode. I think this was one of the best episodes of the Seas. And I have to say, I think it's because the energy of the. Oh, geez. Was great. Portia.
Ronnie Karam
I agree.
Ben Mandelker
And Phaedra opening this just gossiping in their room was fucking hilarious.
Ronnie Karam
And I think I agree 100%. It's like, not that so much even happened this episode. They just were being really funny. Like, the vibe, the chit chat amongst the ladies was very funny. I do think that, like, Phaedra is actually working out pretty well in. In just in terms of that she's funny and she's having all these Kiki moments with the OGs. There is just a really strong energy there. And it's just becoming more and more apparent how, like, useless Brit is amongst all this. Even Kelly is somehow coming to life a little bit more. So I totally agree. Not much happened, but, like, great vibes.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, it was funny. So they were talking about there. We opened with them in the morning talking about the night before how his housewives gone wild and they all got shitfaced, basically. And Phaedra is like, well, somebody's probably pregnant. I might have gotten Cynthia pregnant for all I know. Cynthia got me pregnant. And then we see Grenada, Chapter three, Rebirth.
Ronnie Karam
Yes. And so now Drew and Angela are talking about last night. And Drew is like, you know, I've just been waiting for this vacation, like that. That moment. That's just what I've been waiting for this whole time. I felt like the first time all vacation, where it was just. We were all laughing, having an amazing time, drinking, turning up. Everyone was twerking. It was like we were having a dinner party, and there was no one crazy in the basement at the same time. What a wonderful feeling.
Ben Mandelker
And Angela's like, yeah, we had so much fun. But, you know, then, you know. I know Brit and her monologue that lasted 30 minutes, which I've been thinking about all week. Brit's monologue, like, I love you.
Phaedra Parks
We are like sisters. We are soulmates. We have been best friends for 30 years, and I want you to remember that.
Ben Mandelker
And she's like. And I think she was coming from a good place. But then I start I made the mistake of looking at your ass. And Drew's like, what did I do? And then we see. See, Drew just kind of giving her the side eye. Like, what the is this chick on, man?
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And then, like, Drew is like, she. We come back and she goes. And they say, I'm the actress. I mean, well, somebody else got me beat, because what we saw last night, I'm like, of course, leave it to Drew Sidora to somehow diss her own career. She's like, I mean, I'm clearly not a good actress. Like, don't tell that. That's your career. Okay. Yes. Don't tell the casting directors.
Ben Mandelker
Like, oh, she took center stage. A round of applause. So they're making fun of that. And she's like, are they about to tongue kiss? And she's like. I was like, are you attacking Shamia? Like, what's happening here? And she's like. Angela says, you know what I thought was interesting is that I didn't even realize that her and Kelly weren't that close. And then they start talking about the dinner where Britt was left on an island over the charity conversation. Kelly was like, yeah, you know, you should give more to charity. Are they even really friends?
Ronnie Karam
Kelly's the same girl who jumped on me when Britt and I had our words. So something isn't right. I mean, they're not speaking, they're not close, they're not laughing. My spidey senses are jumping right now, so they definitely feel like, wait a second. Aren't these two supposed to be, like, besties? Why was Kelly not supporting British last night? Yeah, something is up.
Ben Mandelker
So Shamia facetimes her mom about the kid. Like, how's the kid? How's Shiloh? And she's like, well, you know, the baby was freezing. We got her out of the crib. She was shaking. She was so cold. And then she's like. And then what about the nanny? And she's like, oh, the nanny was at the North Pole. She had on, like, a heating blanket and a bikini. She was just fine.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. So Jamia saying how she gets so anxious because anytime Shiloh gets sick, she often winds up going to the hospital. And she's like, a lot. And she's just gonna try to enjoy her trip. So now we go over to Cynthia and Portia, and Portia has this enormous hat that has, like. Like, dry. It's like. It was just like.
Ben Mandelker
It was a hat.
Ronnie Karam
It was just like, a giant hat with, like, carpet on top. And she's showing it off to Cynthia. And she's like, this is. And Cynthia's like, when are you gonna wear that hat?
Phaedra Parks
She goes, I'm gonna take pictures downstairs with it.
Ronnie Karam
She's like, okay. Wow, that's a lot. So she basically asked her if she was talk. Like, talked with Shamia and checked in on her and stuff like that.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So then Cynthia comes over. I mean, sorry, Cynthia's already there. So Phaedra comes over and she's like, it's me.
Phaedra Parks
And she's like, well, girl, can you stand on your tippy toes? I can't see you in the door hole.
Ben Mandelker
I'm not Strawberry Shortcake, okay? Listen, I've been trying to play that TV so many times, it won't in my room. I need to see Murder as I Go to Sleep. A good crime show. I like to see people get murdered and then people running around trying to figure out who did it. You know, my mom. I've told you this story, but my mom can only go to sleep with horror movies playing or Lifetime movies. And it's so disturbing. Every time I go home and stay at my mom's house. Oh, my God. It's like two in the morning, and you just hear from her room. It freaked me out the first time I was home years ago, because I just hear. It's like, top volume. This, like ladies getting their asses murdered. It's the only way she can go to sleep. It's sick. It's sick.
Ronnie Karam
Oh, my God. That's very intense for me. Like, I. I am. I'm so impressed that your mom can watch all those movies, because I, like, can't even watch, like, a scary trailer, like, let alone a movie or anything like that.
Ben Mandelker
Like, I am to be able to watch so Delicate Wednesday. But to need them to go to sleep is just. It's like a whole kind of trauma can. I don't even want to open. I think it's too late to even open it, you know? Like, where does this come from? You know, at some point, just watch your damn horror movies, you know, Go to sleep with it. I don't care.
Ronnie Karam
So Phaedra saying, like, last night, the girls were so crazy. I mean, like, the shot o' clock or whatever was going on. Angela, you know, she gets me. School teacher. Like, she teaches math. She's very. She's very stern. And then they're like, yeah, like, when.
Phaedra Parks
She asks you something, she's like, here's my question.
Ronnie Karam
So Pedro's like, yes, I know. She was like Barbara Walters last night. All the questions. And I was like, I want to ask you one thing, but by the way, what was going on with Shamia and the donations? I mean, everyone's got a Rolls Royce. I mean, that's not the point. I mean, the African surrogate is a fucking Rolls Royce and AP bus down and some Ferragamos. I mean, if you don't have that, you can't be African. Okay?
Ben Mandelker
Cynthia's like, I started here was hilarious. She's like, why are we acting like a Rolls Royce is a big deal? Come on, now.
Ronnie Karam
So Cynthia's like, what's a bus down? And she's like, oh, yeah, you know, having, like, diamonds and everything everywhere. And Phaedra starts saying, how? And she's like, in Scamlanta, everybody's got everything. And she starts talking about how there's just, like, scammers everywhere. And Portia's like, yeah, Scamlanta.
Phaedra Parks
There's, like, a lot of scammers and Scamolinas out there.
Ben Mandelker
I love that Phaedra's bringing it up, because, you know, Phaedra is one of the top Scamolinas in Atlanta. She's always been shady. Fey.
Ronnie Karam
Fay, you got some juicy door on your cast. So.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So she's like, well, I got. I give fingers, fingerprints, and run them through the gbi because, honey, you'll be trick or treated in Atlanta. Okay. There's more tricking than treating, though. So Portia's like.
Phaedra Parks
But it just kept going and going and the Brits getting more upset. You know, she's like a dog with a bone. I mean, you know, there's shade in the building. You know who shading me like, oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Ronnie Karam
Dog with bone. Like, that was. Because the last episode where Shamiya's like, do not call me. A talk with the power. You have to drop this metaphor because it's causing a lot of drama amongst. Amongst these ladies. So, yeah, so they're talking about how, you know, this whole thing from last night. And Paige was like, I have a little bit of tea. Commercial break. And we're back. Here's the tea. So Brit said the glam people in Tinkerbell that Tinkerbell hired, they have to go with Tinkerbell or else. And as we suspected, and as we pretty much confirmed last week through the gossip, that, as we suspected, all those little scenes earlier in the season, we're like, something is up. We're spending a little bit too much time with the glam squad. And, like, why are we finding out that Kelly's just lent a Glam squad to Brit for the day. Like, why are they giving us this information with no follow up? It must be seeding something. And here it is.
Ben Mandelker
Here it is. So she's Phaedra saying that Kelly doesn't want her using the same glam squad as Britt. So then we see clips of the stylists, you know, loaning the stylist out or whatever. So Porch is like, oh, my God.
Phaedra Parks
Finally the season is working.
Ben Mandelker
We've got glam drama. Thank God.
Phaedra Parks
And she's like, I mean, okay, wow, we got drama. I mean, these are the same two that came out in the same pink outfit at the. At the. My birthday party. Looking at Ren and Stimpy.
Ronnie Karam
They'Re just like. They're like fake freaking frack.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So Phaedra's like, there's not a pair of pants in the world that can keep me from my best girlfriend.
Ronnie Karam
So they're basically like. Portia's like, yeah, they always. They, like, don't speak without each other. Like, it doesn't matter who's talking. Like, they basically finish each other's sentences. And then we see footage of them finishing each other's sentences.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And standing up for each other and stuff. And so Portia's like, well, you know.
Phaedra Parks
Kelly was very quiet while Shamia and.
Ben Mandelker
Britt were going at it. And Cynthia's like, yeah. I was like, what's going on with Kelly? She didn't say a word. Well, actually, she did. She just said waffle. I didn't really know what that meant. Glad she got that in there.
Ronnie Karam
I didn't know what it meant, but I leaned into it because I thought I might get a free waffle out of it.
Phaedra Parks
So she's like, yeah, she was making facial expressions. But then for Kelly to hold Britt accountable for that donation.
Ben Mandelker
And then we see the flashback where Kelly's like, well, I'm not saying it was the best donation, but if we're going to show up and be that girl, we have to be that girl in all aspects of our lives. I say Rolls Royces for everyone here, Every child.
Ronnie Karam
With a waffle on the inside. Do you know I got a waffle iron, by the way.
Ben Mandelker
I'm surprised you didn't have one. That's the big surprise in that news.
Ronnie Karam
Yes, I, I. The good people at Cuisinart sent me a little waffle iron, and I have now started to make waffles, and I am now. I am now in the full waffle. I'm in my waffle era.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, so you're gonna be like, waffle influencing now on your insta.
Ronnie Karam
I don't know if I'm a waffle influencer. I'm under no obligation to be a waffle influencer, but I am doing waffle experiments. I definitely. Because we talked last week about waffles and fish. So I did make a waffle, and I put pickled herring on it, and it was delicious. And so I am now fully. I'm a little waffle. I'm like a little Kelly. I'm now becoming my. Making my own little waffle empire, my place. And I have to say, I. Waffle irons are fun.
Ben Mandelker
Congratulations. That's huge. You got sent a waffle iron from Cuisinart. I love that.
Ronnie Karam
I know.
Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
Yes. I don't know. I. Yeah, it was very cool. I'm not. I'm. I'm not mentioning it because of Cuisinart. I'm mentioning it because I'm really liking making waffles right now. And I'm expect, expect, expect a lot of waffle stories going forward. That's my little advertisement.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Putting some art in the Cuisinart. Yeah. So. So they're still talking about what's going on with these two crazies. And Phaedra's like, you know, I mean, I told her. I told Brit what she's doing is weird. She's just. It's too much. You know, people want fine. They want fine. And she's like, you know, we like fun, we like fantasy. We like dungeons. We like things and drinks. So maybe she was giving us fantasy by showing us her tits because she had an inverted nipple the other night. They're like, what? She goes, yeah. You know, I said, oh, we got nipple problems. And so she popped it out, and it popped out like a balloon.
Ronnie Karam
And they're like, what? Then Portia turns to Cynthia, goes, oh, like your clit. And his, like, excuse you.
Phaedra Parks
You're quit. You know, the thing in your vagina, you know how that. That's all inverted, you know, just like your glitch.
Ronnie Karam
She, like, takes, like, her. Some cloth and puts it over her face. And just like, that's not meant for tv.
Ben Mandelker
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And now we go over to Brit, heading over to Kelly's villa and they start to, they start to catch up.
Ben Mandelker
So this is awkward. They're doing like the you look rested. Well, I got rest. So. And Kelly's like, well okay, the Nightma maybe started off a little but you know, it's a lot of unpacking, you know, in the situation with Shamia and oh, that was a lot. But glad that's over. Anyway, I have to go to court. I'm getting divorced so you can't Fight with me right now.
Phaedra Parks
And we're thinking, okay, I know, I know.
Ben Mandelker
And she's like, yeah, because, you know, we have to go over property things and so depressing, you know, my divorce. She goes, uh huh.
Phaedra Parks
I know.
Ben Mandelker
She goes, okay, so I guess we'll talk about last night again since you're not gonna give me a lot of drama about my divorce. So let's go back to that thing.
Phaedra Parks
As someone who's recently divorced from her insurance license, I completely understand.
Ronnie Karam
So Brit then is saying, like, you.
Phaedra Parks
Know, I felt like last night it was like mixed emotions because I just felt from some like, it's just different energies, I think. And I think like the part that was just like kind of weird, it's just like we've always been good. And at the dinner, like we were talking about donations and I was like, wait a minute, like, what's going on?
Ben Mandelker
So she says, yeah, you know, like.
Phaedra Parks
I mean, when we're around a group, like, you act like I'm a cheap bitch. Like when I asked you multiple times, tell me what's again about, like, is it about donating or something else?
Ben Mandelker
And she's like, it is, it is about donating. And look, Shamia just wanted you to show up a little bit more, even at your event. You know, I mean, I took my entire team and you know, especially when you say things like, I took my entire real estate team to get plastic surgery. Which I love the comparison. She's like, okay, everybody send your kids to my office. I'm getting them all bbls. Got all these like kids walking around Grenada. They're like, I don't have a house, but I do have a very juicy ass.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And this was like Kelly's very nice way of saying, if you're willing to give your staff bbls, you should put in more than $250 and some, like, toilet paper for charity. When you're on a TV show and we're all pulling up, like, you need to pull up as well. That's our nice way of saying it. Like, I just felt like, you know, what you did. So of course, like, you know, Brit, she, she says, I feel like, you know, I really want you. I feel like there's a higher purpose for you, which is, I think, such a diplomatic way of saying it.
Phaedra Parks
And Britt's like, well, for me it's really not that complicated. I mean, I love that you're so giving and welcoming, but sometimes it's okay for it to just be like, you can't just be you, Kelly. And I feel like you use your team and your hair and your makeup as a shield.
Ronnie Karam
So Brit is, like, turning this around on Kelly when Kelly's basically saying, like, you need to, like, you're on TV now. Okay? And she's like, okay, well, if you're gonna come for me, I'm gonna come for you and be like, you're fake, and you have all this bullshit, and it's to hide the fact that you're just a fake person.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And I kind of get what she's saying, because this Kelly's telling her, like, we're on TV and, like, show up more. And she's like, well, we're on TV and you're doing too much. So I may be doing too little, but you're doing too much. And she's like, well, I don't know. It's weird. She's talking about my entourage, but she kind of wants my entourage at the same time. And Britney's. Brit's like, I don't need a whole team around. She goes, okay, okay, then why did Brit host an entire meeting with my glam squad behind my back at her home?
Ronnie Karam
You don't need a whole team. You literally hired, like, a fake butler for your lobster. Your catered lobster dinner at home, and you just literally got bbls for your team, your actual insurance team. So you're definitely team oriented. You want people around you. So Kelly is like, you know, I just. I don't mind extending my team until she could find one. But at the same time, it's like, damn, do you want my gynecologist, too?
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And Britt's like, well, she was the one who let me work with her team. She was the one who suggested I work with her team and that. And then she told them that she doesn't want them working with me.
Phaedra Parks
With me.
Ben Mandelker
She loaned your. She loaned you her team one time. As far as we've seen. I don't think that meant, like, oh, my God, you should use the exact same glam team as me.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And I think that she would be okay with it, too, if she. If. If you had a conversation with her being like, you know, I love Paris. I think I'm. I'm sort of. I would. I would love to keep working with him. I think I'm going to reach out and, like, hire him, if that's cool with you. And I'm sure Kelly would have been like, that's great, you know, but, like, doing it behind the back feels kind of, like, poachy, you know, the Thing.
Ben Mandelker
That'S funny is that neither of them look great. Paris is not a good stylist. Okay. Like, I think. I think anyone watching this show can agree that these two really don't look like they've been styled that well. So they're fighting over some pretty bad styling.
Ronnie Karam
I don't know why that cracks me up so much. It's just, like, I wasn't expecting that Paris was gonna catch a straightforward from you in the middle of this, but. But you might be right.
Ben Mandelker
I don't think anybody's walking away from this season like, you know what? The outfits on Kelly and Brett. Wow. Wow.
Ronnie Karam
Well, it's also that loop of hair on Kelly's forehead. It's like the little roller coaster. The loop de loop.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So she's like, well, instead of allowing.
Phaedra Parks
It to be a lesson in front of the whole group, like, I mean, you know, if you're aware of something with Shamia while you're building this relationship, then share it with your close friend, you know, and then we can get past it.
Ben Mandelker
Which I kind of agree with her. I mean, Shamia had already gone out with her. They'd already had the discussion with Brit then. I mean, they've talked about it a million times, and Shamia was just trying it. Just like, okay, now we're all together, so I'll come for you about the charity again. Well, so I don't like Brit, but I think that was a little extra of them last week to come for again.
Ronnie Karam
Normally, I would say Brit has a little bit of a point here, which is like, hey, Kelly, you know that Shamia is mad at me because I didn't donate enough. You should give me a heads up. And I would have fixed it. But the thing is, what we learned is that Shamia actually took Britt to lunch, probably a free lunch. At Houston. At Houston.
Ben Mandelker
At Houston.
Ronnie Karam
And Shamia already told her, so Kelly doesn't need to tell her. On top of that, like, you should know. And again, I still stick by my own weird theory, which is, like, you work in insurance, so you should know how much things cost and, like, what's an appropriate amount to donate. And, like, you should just be good with valuations. So now we see Portia and Angela going to the pool, and they're just talking about how nice the pool is and everything, and people start to join them. This is very much a people joining the group episode. We have a lot of, like, hey, like, people coming out one at a time to different locations. But, like, you know, it's just what it is. It's a little bit of a filler episode, not gonna lie.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Some of the girls went shopping, so they're all dressed the same. Shamia, Kelly. Shamia and Kelly, I guess, are wearing, like, matching swimsuits. And Angela's like, y' all got so much time on your hands.
Phaedra Parks
Twins.
Ben Mandelker
I mean, come on now. And then we see them. Kelly and Britt wearing matching bright pink from two months ago. She's like, that's what we do at our big age.
Ronnie Karam
So they are. More people join. It's shot o' clock. Shots, Shots. And dressing the same. And, oh, my God, more shots. Lots of shots. Nothing that. I'm just sort of going through the notes because it's like, shots, shots. Everyone's joining. More shots.
Ben Mandelker
And Drew are in a better place. Shamia, love the energy. They're all talking about how great of sisters they are. They're all sisters now. The win is sisterhood, which I love in the Girls Housewives, because that just means they're all about to turn on each other in a grand finale.
Ronnie Karam
And they're all just, like, bonding. Like, guys, this is the best group ever. Now we've gotten through the worst part. The fighting is over. We can just be sisters, right? This. This is the best. And they're like, wait a second. Where's Britt? Oh, yeah, Britt's not here. They just don't even realize Brit's gone.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And they ask Kelly where she is, and she's like, I don't know. And they're like, what's happening with Kelly and Brit? So now the chairman of the Granada Tourism Authority shows up.
Ronnie Karam
Up.
Ben Mandelker
I'm telling you, Granada is really being nice. I mean, they're just sending everybody out.
Ronnie Karam
They're rolling out the red carpet. They have, like, every. Every member of the government has come by. I mean, so we're gonna have, like, the Agricultural Department here, Department of the Interior. It's great.
Ben Mandelker
So.
Ronnie Karam
And. And by the way. And each one of these, like, officials is, like, very attractive. And they're young, so they're like, wow. It's like another Portuguese. Is that another prime minister? You baby. These ministers are fine out here in Grenada.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. He's like, nice to meet you. And Phaedra's like, I'm a hugger. Come in.
Ronnie Karam
She goes in and hugs another government official.
Ben Mandelker
So Britt comes down, and they introduce her to Randall. And so Kelly is like, oh, this is Randall. Randall's the one that helped with Hurricane Beryl, making sure that we donated. So. So, Randall, do you have anything to say to Britt? Yeah, do you have that bucket I gave you? Just hold it out to Britt. Hopefully she'll put some money in there.
Ronnie Karam
Randall, if you had a pleasant time on the toilet this morning, you can thank Britt. She donated that toilet paper. And only that toilet paper. Just that.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, by the way, Britt, Beryl wanted to see if he could take you to the Houstons in Grenada to have a talk.
Ronnie Karam
Beryl, the hurricane takes Britt to lunch. It's like barrel's like. Look, I. When I'm a hurricane, it's just like it's in my nature. I destroy everything. And I rely on people like you to fill in the gaps after me. And if you don't do that, you're gonna give me a bad name. Okay.
Ben Mandelker
Do you know how many bbls I sucked up in the storm? So I'm gonna need you to like replenish.
Ronnie Karam
I am like, people have like a really bad impression of me as a hurricane, but what people don't realize is that I gave like three tornadoes a bbl. Okay? Cuz I care about my team.
Ben Mandelker
So later they're going to go to jab, jab. So he leaves and Phaedra watches him walk off and she's like, I did date a wonderful man. He was bowlegged. That was impressive. You don't see that anymore. I guess they all started drinking that vitamin D infused milk. Child, no one can get the rickets now.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And then they just all upset, all.
Ben Mandelker
Upset that people don't have rickets anymore. Is that what bow legged is?
Ronnie Karam
I don't know what causes.
Ben Mandelker
Here's the thing with Phaedra. I don't know what the fuck she's talking about half the time, but I laugh 90% of the time that she talks.
Ronnie Karam
I do know that some people really are attracted to men who are bow legged. I don't know what the story is. I don't know why, why, why is that hot? Why I'm not opposed to it, but I just don't understand why that's like hot versus like some muscles, you know?
Ben Mandelker
Okay, hold on. Ricketts, a bone growth disorder caused by vitamin D or calcium deficiency can lead to bow legs. Wow. You see? You see what Phaedra teaches us? I have knock knees, so that's why I am into bow legged guys. Because it's like the other side, you know, it's the other yards. The grass is always greener. The knees are always less knockier.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, yeah. I don't know, but people really like they're into bow. Like, I. I had a friend once who was bow legged and this other guy came up to me, he's like, yeah, those bow legged. I love that. Bow legged man. I was like, what? I was like, I don't quite like. I'm not taking it away. I just don't. I didn't. I don't understand. Like, it's not something that ever like was on my checklist. So it's like a weird thing. I'm like, really? I don't think I'm. I also don't think I have a very good bowleg adar. I'm really bad at seeing. I would have a hard time seeing if someone's bowlegged. It's weird.
Ben Mandelker
No, you can see because it's not just a thigh gap. It's like a thigh arch. Yeah, a thigh. Is it like a vagina? Like it's a thigh?
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
Opening.
Ronnie Karam
Is it? Because it kind of looks like you're riding a horse and so maybe that's what makes it hot.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
Like a cowboy thing.
Ben Mandelker
I don't know. I don't know what it is. It's just hot. It's just like. Because I don't like my knock knees, you know, so I'm like, what did you do that Jesus loves you and I'm not. You're bow legged. So. Yeah. So they're talking about jib jab. So rude. They're talking about jab jab now and explaining what it is and stuff. And they have to wear oil all over their bodies and jab, jab horns. And it's a form of protest. And it normally starts at 6am and they're going to do it at night for the ladies, which is why Swiss. It's gonna be much better.
Ronnie Karam
Big thing. Yeah, big, big jab, jab thing. So. And then meanwhile, Drew and Shamia are talking and actually. Sorry. Kelly and Drew are talking and they're realizing they have the same wedding anniversary. And on top of that, they've been married for about the same amount of time. And on top of that, they're both divorcing.
Ben Mandelker
Isn't that crazy? Like, oh my God. The same wedding anniversary.
Phaedra Parks
That's crazy.
Ben Mandelker
So Phaedra goes, that's not a good sign. Horse is like, yeah, because they're both.
Phaedra Parks
In the same boat.
Ben Mandelker
So. And Pedro goes, yeah, and the boat sunk. There was a man with rickets on that boat. I. That man with rickets on a boat.
Ronnie Karam
Well, every boat does have a bow. Bow. Wordplay would have been better if it was written because they are pronounced differently in person. So then Drew is saying that she was actually planning on doing a vow renewal, which I'm like, okay, so Drew, you did cause the divorce because you said vow renewal, and now you precipitated the end of your marriage. Congratulations. I'm just glad she actually, for once, the order was proper, which is the divorce before the vow renewal as opposed to the vow renewal and then the divorce a year later.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So they talk about their divorces on board. So then Portia's like, okay, you guys.
Phaedra Parks
I'll be right back. I have something very exciting to show you. This is an amazing moment of Portia being a good person, because I'm the kind of friend that if you're going through something, I want you to feel good about yourself. And that's why I'm letting Shamia wear my Snuffleupicus hat.
Ben Mandelker
Okay.
Ronnie Karam
He literally says, wow. She's like, I'm letting her wear my hat and taking a photo of her. Wow. You know what? She really does show up as a friend sometimes. She really does.
Ben Mandelker
You basically are the charity in Grenada. Somebody give Brit her toilet paper back. Porsche's won this one.
Ronnie Karam
So they have this little photo shoot thing, and it's, you know, it's nice. It's fine. And now we have Kelly. She's in a room, and she's calling Bobby, her divorce lawyer, and she's just talking about how this is going. She's overwhelmed, and she talks about how going through a divorce is one of the most difficult things you ever have to do, aside from cleaning a waffle iron. Very, very difficult. But she's like, I hate that it's come to Grenada with me, because the purpose of me coming here is to reset and have my moment. But then again, it's also my only storyline that I've got going on, and I have to keep my storylines going through this vacation, so.
Ben Mandelker
Oh, well, yeah. So she's telling the lawyer, so. Yeah. And also, we build. We bought a lot to build a home, and it was an anniversary gift that he technically gifted me, but then I heard he sold that lot to the friend. To a friend. And the lawyer's like, well, do you have a deed for the lot? Like, can we see who owns it now? And she's like, well, he gave me the document and, like, a card, but I don't know. Like, I don't even know where the paperwork is. So I don't know. Now there's lots missing. And did he buy that with her money? Was that A gift with her money.
Ronnie Karam
Is there not a docusign in the cloud somewhere? Come on. So then Kelly is like, she's saying how he's not making it easy on her and she just. She does a really good job of hiding it because she doesn't want her kids to ever. Honestly, I didn't really listen to this scene, I'm gonna say, because it's been the same scene for like the whole season. I want to see her make I've had enough divorce.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I know. Don't happen in five minutes, but I don't need them. Talked about 45 minutes out of every episode. I'm done with your divorce, okay?
Ronnie Karam
It's an off camera drama with someone I don't know and I've never met and I don't care about. So I just know you're going through divorce. My heart goes out. Goes out for you. This cannot be your a story, okay? I'm telling you it truly. I truly want to watch her make waffles. I'm not just saying this because, oh, I got a waffle errand. It's like I literally just would. I would literally prefer to watch her making waffles in her restaurant than I would listening about this divorce one.
Ben Mandelker
Also in this episode, we're getting a little bit of the stylist thing, but they're not confronting each other about it. It's like they're both. Brit and Kelly are both. It's like they agreed to not come for each other about this stylist thing. So they're talking their way around it. And you guys are too new to be doing that shit.
Ronnie Karam
It.
Ben Mandelker
You know what I mean?
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
That's like Housewives fifth season when you're trying to hide storylines and you've agreed to keep certain things off camera and blah, blah, blah, and your first season. And that's not a good sign that you guys are already hiding story lines. I don't like it.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
And now I have so now worse. This whole time, you guys keep repeating the same old over and over instead of talking about what's really going on. And I think that that's not great. It's not. It's not a great sign for a reboot, you know?
Ronnie Karam
Well, while Kelly tries to keep a storyline in the dark, something has come forward from. From the ether. Shamia's luggage. It has returned. Shamia finally got her luggage and she's like, yes, I finally have my looks again. And so she puts on these boots and she's ready for jab, jab and they're like, yeah, you can't wear that. I was like, she waited an entire vacation to finally be able to wear her own clothes. And like, you. No, don't wear that to the.
Ben Mandelker
The.
Ronnie Karam
Don't wear that to the jab jabs to get ruined.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Because they're gonna be. They have to be throwaway clothes. You know, they're gonna be covered in oil.
Ronnie Karam
And she has Chanel rain boots.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And Britt's like, I mean, any clothes.
Phaedra Parks
You have to throw away, like, the shoes are done no matter what you do.
Ben Mandelker
And Phaedra's like, I know you're rich. You're very, very wealthy. Now go change. She's like, okay.
Ronnie Karam
You'Ve proven your points. Get out of these Chanel wellies and put on some. Some boots from Marshalls. Okay.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
Ronnie Karam
Cynthia is FaceTiming with Amsterdam, which is her man, and she's showing that she's made, like, little condoms for her braids. She's got them, like, in. In, like, fabric, so that way they are protected from the oil, which is funny. They're like little. Little. Like. Like little. Little elephant trunks in the. In their bags. And Amsterdam's like, wow, great.
Ben Mandelker
So now everybody's making, like, little videos for jab jab, and insta posts and stuff like that. And then it's time to get on the bus and go to jab, jab. So now we're with Shamia, Cynthia, Drew, and Angela. And one car. And it's Shot o' clock.
Phaedra Parks
It's Shot o' clock, Shamia.
Ben Mandelker
It's shot o' clock. It's always shot o' clock with Shamia.
Ronnie Karam
I think I'm done with Shot o' Clock. I think time is up for Shot o' Clock.
Ben Mandelker
I just realized, okay, it's time for our divorce storyline.
Ronnie Karam
Shot o' Clock is over. Is officially dead. I never would have noticed it, except that when she said that shot o' clock is her thing, that's, of course, put it on my radar. And I'm like, okay, Shot o' clock has 15 minutes of fame for me. And now Shot o' Clock has expired.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So Kelly's got horns on, and Portia's like, you're single.
Phaedra Parks
And those are haters, you know? Like, those men don't. Don't come close, you know? And we're single, okay.
Ben Mandelker
And Phaedra's like, those are blockers. I wouldn't wear those arms. And Kelly's like, jab, Jab is gonna be the liberation that the doctors ordered for me because divorce is really hard. I've been going through a divorce. It's been so difficult. I hope that jab jab can liberate me from divorce.
Ronnie Karam
Girl, I want to pour some oil on this divorce storyline right now. Can we send it off? Send it off to the ocean. So they're all talking about how, like, oh, my God, I want my man to be obsessed with me. I want him to, like, touch me and kiss me and give me gifts and. And then Phaedra saying she doesn't like people touching her toes and yada yada. And they're just, like, talking about guys and they're just, like, horned up because they're about to see a whole bunch of, like, hot Caribbean men, like, covered in shiny oil. So they're. They're ready. They're. They're. They're ready to get their lady boners on.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So then Shamia is in her car recording a selfie video with all the ladies, and she's like, this is what 8 years of marriage look like. Oh, my gosh, I'm right behind her with the seven years. They. They want to be. They want to be scooped up by some men. I hope that they can get some men. And meanwhile, Portia's like, fucking feet, right?
Phaedra Parks
Like, I had a guy who dated feet. Like, you ever tried to jerk off somebody with your feet?
Ronnie Karam
Apparently.
Ben Mandelker
Okay, just go to jab jab. Now we go to this festival. That's crazy.
Ronnie Karam
It looks so fun.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, it really did. And they really do cover themselves in black oil.
Ronnie Karam
And they. It was actually, like. It was actually visually amazing because everyone's in this, like, shiny, dark, black oil, but then it's like, night, and so there's like these sort of neon highlights everywhere, shining off of everyone. And it was kind of. Of like. It felt like bacchanalia. And it looked. It kind of looked like the sort of thing where, you know, I don't like to get myself dirty, but sometimes you sort of. When you give yourself over and you're like, it. I'm just covered in oil like that. It looked great, but, man, I also can't. I feel so bad for all the taxis on Grenada because there's a lot of dirty, oily seats. A lot of taxi. Taxis got ruined that night. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
A lot of hotel rooms. We see it covering the hotel room the next day. It's everywhere.
Ronnie Karam
The service industry must not, like, jab, jab. They're like, oh, fuck. Pre order the bleach.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So Portia and Phaedra dance with the same man. And Phaedra's like, I'm Christian. Oh, my God, I'm pregnant. We got the same baby. Daddy got us all pregnant. And she's like, wow, thank God I got my ring in. Gosh, he's the devil's minion, that man.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, it's really. They're really going all in, you know? And so there's party, party, party. Jab, jab, jab, jab, jab. Lots of jab, jab. And then finally they leave. And so now it's the next day, and we see, like, all, like, their jab, jab outfits that just in little piles around. We see Portia's jab, jab butt print on the wall. We see, like, soiled sheets. It's a lot of cleanup.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, it's a lot. So now they're packing to go, and Cynthia has an electric blanket because she gets cold. And. Wait, who has an electric? Someone does. And Cynthia's like, in Grenada, you need an electric. He needs an electric blanket. So Brit's like, okay, let's go.
Phaedra Parks
Anybody have the jab jab hats?
Ben Mandelker
Basically. Look, let me tell you something about this episode, audience. It was really fun to watch, but literally nothing happened in this.
Ronnie Karam
Nothing happened. Like, we were literally sitting here.
Ben Mandelker
Like, we're not hating on it until something happens, but nothing happened. But it was a good. It was a fun episode to watch.
Ronnie Karam
Fun episode. Like, I was cracking up the entire time. But, yeah, nothing really happened. Yeah.
Ben Mandelker
So now they're laughing about how the cleanup. Like, some ladies cleaned up better than other ladies from the oil because there's still oil everywhere.
Phaedra Parks
And Britt's like, well, I mean, I see these ladies. Clearly, you do not shower properly. I mean.
Ben Mandelker
And Phaedra goes, oh, yeah, Britt came to my room. You know how you. How after you have your baby, the midwife comes in and scrubs your back and just gives you that, like, little bath. That's how she was scrubbing me.
Phaedra Parks
She's like, I scrub on every inch of her body.
Ben Mandelker
I felt like I had a baby.
Phaedra Parks
I was like, bend over, spread your cheeks. You're gonna feel violated.
Ronnie Karam
That sounds intense. I just love Brit saying, like, some of these ladies don't know how to shower properly. I love when Britt attempts to, like, make herself seem like she is a proper lady and everyone else is just, like, garbage. Like, when she was like, I don't do shots.
Phaedra Parks
That's for, like, sluts in college, Okay? I know how to shower properly.
Ronnie Karam
Oh, settle down, Brit.
Ben Mandelker
So they talk about getting the oil off and stuff like that. And now let's talk about Kelly's divorce. So Drew's like, so how. How'd the meeting with your attorney go? And so she's like, well, yeah, I had to talk to my attorney because I'm getting a divorce. It's very painful. It's a divorce, so that's rough. And she's like, you know, guys, look how bad my divorce is. It broke. The talking crystal.
Ronnie Karam
Yes. I stood up, and the crystal broke in half. And she holds it up, and they're like, oh. Oh, my God. Like, what does that symbolize? Well, I Googled it because I was so upset, and it symbolizes the end of a relationship. And, like, oh, my God. I'm like, you realize this is the end of a relationship with Brad.
Ben Mandelker
It.
Ronnie Karam
This is not the end of relationship with the ex, because that relationship is over. This is. This is the Brit symbol here.
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. You already knew about the other one.
Ronnie Karam
Yes.
Ben Mandelker
So she's like, I'm gonna throw this crystal in the ocean, so help me release this crystal. So they got littered together, which is really nice. And Kelly's like, you know, I'm just gonna leave all this anxiety and everything pertaining to court in Grenada. I wouldn't. Because you got court, like, next week.
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, it's not gonna stay in Grenada. It's coming back. And then she's like, I just pray that when we get back to Atlanta, we can continue the sisterhood. I'm like, you're on the Real Housewives. Bravo. Will not let that happen. And then we see 72 hours later, Kelly goes, guys, I'm not divorced. I'm like, yeah, no, of course you weren't divorced. They just entered new evidence into this thing about him selling the land. Of course you're not divorced.
Ben Mandelker
And he went to jail today. She adds, what the hell? But we don't find out why. And then we see a fast forward, and Angela's asking Kelly how she is with Brit, and she's like, I haven't spoken with Britt since Grenada. Fast forward, fast forward.
Phaedra Parks
She showed me text messages between the two of you guys.
Ben Mandelker
And then Custafedra in her car, and she's like, well, just hold on to your panties. Some man had word for Angela. Your husband is cheating. Then we just see Mimosa humping a pillow in the background.
Ronnie Karam
And then we come back to Grenada, and they're like, yay, sisterhood. Crystal's been thrown in the ocean. Yay. So that trip is over. Wasn't the most thrilling trip, but, you know, it was a funny episode. And now we have the home stretch before some sort of crazy event wherein they accused Charles Oakley of cheating at. At some gala and Angela gets mad, so we, you know, it's a slow march to that. And that was the episode.
Ben Mandelker
All right, everybody, thanks so much for being here. We'll see you guys Thursday night in Los Angeles, and we'll talk to you next time.
Ronnie Karam
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Episode: #2891 RHOA S16E15: Throwing Jabs
Release Date: June 16, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Platform: Wondery
In episode #2891 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam dive deep into the latest installment of The Real Housewives of Atlanta (RHOA) Season 16, Episode 15, titled "Throwing Jabs." As usual, Ben and Ronnie blend humor, sharp commentary, and insightful analysis to dissect the drama unfolding in Atlanta’s elite circles.
"Throwing Jabs" centers around a tumultuous trip to Grenada, where tensions among the housewives reach a boiling point. The episode showcases a mix of bonding moments and confrontations, highlighting the fragile nature of alliances within the group.
The Dinner Party Drama:
Britney and Kelly’s Tension:
Kelly’s Divorce Saga:
Styling and Glam Squad Conflicts:
The 'Jab Jab' Festival:
Ronnie Karam on winding down after traveling:
“I tell you, coming back home, it just feels so great to escape to a place that truly feels like my own.”
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Ben Mandelker on outdoor spaces:
“There's something about a beautiful outdoor space. It's just so satisfying.”
00:11
Phaedra Parks on sisterhood:
“We are like sisters. We are soulmates. We have been best friends for 30 years, and I want you to remember that.”
07:34
Ronnie Karam expressing frustration with repetitive storylines:
“I'm done with your divorce, okay?”
39:42
Ben Mandelker on styling conflicts:
“I don't think anybody's walking away from this season like, you know what? The outfits on Kelly and Brit. Wow.”
28:18
Britney vs. Kelly: The core of this episode revolves around the deteriorating relationship between Britney and Kelly. Britney’s attempts at fostering a sense of sisterhood are overshadowed by Kelly’s perceived insincerity and competitive nature. The hosts highlight how Kelly’s actions, such as withholding her glam squad, fuel the tension, suggesting deeper underlying issues.
Kelly’s Divorce: Kelly’s ongoing divorce storyline is portrayed as repetitive and emotionally draining. Both hosts express their fatigue over the continual focus on her personal life, questioning the show’s narrative choices and their impact on viewers’ engagement.
Phaedra’s Insights: Phaedra Parks’ anecdotes provide a mix of humor and honesty, particularly her unusual attraction to bow-legged men and her candid remarks about personal boundaries. Her straightforwardness adds a refreshing layer to the podcast’s analysis.
The 'Jab Jab' Event: The festival serves as a backdrop for showcasing the housewives’ camaraderie and underlying rivalries. The extravagant nature of the event symbolizes the excess often seen in Bravo shows, while the subsequent cleanup subtly hints at the messiness of their personal lives.
In "#2891 RHOA S16E15: Throwing Jabs," Ben and Ronnie skillfully navigate the labyrinth of relationships, rivalries, and personal struggles that define Real Housewives of Atlanta. While they appreciate the entertainment value and humorous moments, they also critique the show's repetitive storylines and highlight the complexities of maintaining genuine friendships amidst the chaos of reality TV.
The hosts conclude by reflecting on the episode's blend of humor and drama, recognizing that while "nothing really happened," the interactions and character dynamics provided ample material for their engaging discussion. As always, Watch What Crappens delivers insightful and entertaining commentary for Bravo enthusiasts and reality TV aficionados alike.
Tune in next time as Ben and Ronnie continue to dissect the latest episodes, offering their unique perspectives and unabashed humor.
Disclaimer: This summary is based on the provided transcript and aims to encapsulate the key discussions and insights shared by Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam. For the full experience, listeners are encouraged to tune into the actual podcast episode.