#2900 Below Deck S12E04: Gay For No Pay

Summary

Watch What Crappens Podcast Summary: Episode #2900 - Below Deck S12E04: "Gay For No Pay"

Release Date: June 24, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode #2900 of "Watch What Crappens", hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve into the latest installment of Bravo's reality TV hit, "Below Deck" Season 12 Episode 4, titled "Gay For No Pay." This episode spotlights a unique charter featuring gay porn star guests, providing ample material for Ben and Ronnie to praise, ridicule, and humorously dissect the crew's interactions and the show's production choices.

Episode Overview

The central theme of "Gay For No Pay" revolves around the crew managing a five-day charter with a group of gay porn stars. The episode explores the dynamics between the crew members and the guests, highlighting both harmonious interactions and underlying tensions. Ben and Ronnie navigate through various plotlines, including the crew's handling of guest preferences, stress management, and interpersonal conflicts.

Key Events and Scenes

1. Captain Carrie's Leadership Challenges

Ben and Ronnie discuss Captain Carrie's attempts to assert authority over the crew. At one point, Carrie confronts Kyo about improving performance, leading to a tense exchange:

Ben Mandelker: "How sad that you guys are too, like, nice and well-adjusted to make drama."
[05:03]

This moment underscores Carrie's struggle to maintain control without fostering unnecessary conflict.

2. Jess's Constant Presence

The hosts critique the show's editing choices, particularly the portrayal of Jess, a crew member who appears frequently eating downstairs, thereby minimizing her role in contributing to on-boat drama:

Ronnie Karam: "They show her eating in every other scene. And Jess was really just as the one who's like, on my last boat, I never got a break."
[06:25]

Ben adds frustration over Jess's minimal yet constant screen time:

Ben Mandelker: "They always pan over to her. Like, a whole scene will unfold and then the camera will pan over and she's just sitting there eating, like, a bowl of cereal."
[06:32]

3. Rainbow's Breakdown

Rainbow, another crew member, experiences a significant breakdown when she discovers the salon is untidy despite Celine's efforts:

Ronnie Karam: "She's got a stick up her butt. My God."
[10:03]

Ben empathizes with Rainbow's perfectionism, yet criticizes her abrasive communication style:

Ben Mandelker: "She's not pleasant, but she's funny."
[35:48]

4. Fraser's Struggles with Theme Implementation

Fraser attempts to introduce an S&M-themed dinner party, which falls flat due to his lack of genuine understanding and poor execution:

Ben Mandelker: "He just comes out and he's like, you all look like shit. All right, it's our game tonight, not yours."
[45:07]

Ronnie highlights the absurdity of Fraser's approach:

Ronnie Karam: "I thought it was supposed to be like leather and, like, whips and funny and it's kind of just like, just strange."
[46:38]

5. Guest Interactions and Tip Dynamics

The hosts lament the inadequate tipping from the gay porn star guests, which affects crew morale and the overall success of the charter:

Ben Mandelker: "These gays should be ashamed of themselves."
[38:54]

Ronnie Karam: "They gave you 50,000, but I was like, whoa, 19,000, that's mortifying."
[51:28]

Crew Dynamics

Ben and Ronnie offer insights into the evolving relationships among the crew members. They touch upon themes of teamwork, individual stressors, and the challenges of catering to high-maintenance guests. The tension between maintaining professionalism and personal frustrations is a recurring topic, especially in scenarios where crew members are overworked or underappreciated.

Guest Interactions

The integration of gay porn stars into the charter introduces a fresh dynamic, prompting discussions about representation and stereotypes within reality TV. Ben and Ronnie critique the show's portrayal of these guests, noting moments where the editing either mitigates or amplifies potential conflicts. They also explore the guests' impact on the crew's usual routines and the overall atmosphere aboard the yacht.

Hosts' Insights and Opinions

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie provide a blend of humor and critical analysis. They commend certain aspects of the show, such as the inclusion of diverse guests, while simultaneously poking fun at editing choices and character developments that they find lacking or forced. Their candid discussions shed light on the behind-the-scenes realities of producing a successful reality TV series.

Notable Quotes:

• Ronnie Karam: "I have social anxiety. Like when there are like three dicks in my face just coming at me at the same time, I'm like, I just wish there was just one."
  [20:12]

• Ben Mandelker: "I know, but like Frazier's like, Fraser's already acting like, oh, no, he's already unraveling."
  [17:28]

• Ronnie Karam: "I love Rainbow. Like I. I actually really like Rainbow."
  [35:50]

Conclusion

In this episode of "Watch What Crappens," Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam provide a thorough and entertaining analysis of "Below Deck" Season 12 Episode 4, "Gay For No Pay." Their discussion highlights both the strengths and shortcomings of the episode, offering listeners an insightful perspective on the intricate dynamics of reality TV production. Through their humor and keen observations, Ben and Ronnie deliver a compelling summary that is both informative for newcomers and engaging for longtime fans of the show.

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[Ben Mandelker]

Who cares what happens when there's so much that happen? Hello and welcome to Watch what crap ins a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the glorious and masterful Ronnie Caram. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, hello.

[Ben Mandelker]

How are you faring on this Tuesday?

[Ronnie Karam]

Good, Ben, how's everything going with you, babe?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's fabulous. We had a very fun morning. We went on to Jeff Lewis's show on Radio Andy. So go check out the replay of that. You missed it. We had a lot of fun there and then we're always having fun on Patreon where we are doing Love island recaps. Darn near every day. Every day that we show up to record, we do a Love island check in first. So go check that [e-mail] watchforcrappins. You can also do some crappins on demand where you get to watch us, not just listen to us. And those are videos that are exclusive to Patreon for a week before they wind up on our YouTube. So go check it out. It's really fun. And we want to thank everyone who supports us over there. We always really appreciate it. And today we're here to talk about the grand conclusion of the gay porn star. Five day charter on Below Deck.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wow, what a sad group of gay porn stars. I mean, they cut their entire trip into a montage.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's sad. That's sad. I'm like, how sad that you guys are too, like, nice and well adjusted to make drama.

[Ronnie Karam]

I guess so. Because that whole thing was just cut down and over. That was crazy. So we start with Kyo sitting everybody down and he's like, okay, well, the captain. Hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair. Pulled me into the bridge and he asked me if I'm up for it. And, you know, you guys are up for it. And I supported us because, honestly, I think I'm up for it. But he made a good point. We got to get better. We've got to get better, you guys. We've. We've. We're not done. We'll finish later. But here's my basic point. Get better.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then he walks away. And Carl's like, don't come here and bitch and moan at us like we're working our asses off. This is your fault, mate. It's not our fault. Because Kyle is the one who's always, like, going downstairs to have, like, a break. This is like the telltale sign of a bad person. Just how they make. When they want to make us do look like a chief Stew look like she's doing a bad job. They just show her smoking off on the bow somewhere.

[Ronnie Karam]

The old boson.

[Ben Mandelker]

They just show them eating. Yeah, the Hannah edit, the boson. The boson version is them downstairs eating, like, salad or something. Just, like, chowing down.

[Ronnie Karam]

Although they really do that with Jess. I feel like every time they show us Jess, she's eating something downstairs. They show her eating in every other scene. And Jess was really just as the one who's like, on my last boat, I never got a break. Okay, so on this one, do you get 90? I mean, do you get 90 a day? Like, what the hell? Why are you always eating down there?

[Ben Mandelker]

They always pan over to her. Like, a whole scene will unfold and then the camera will pan over and she's just sitting there eating, like, a bowl of cereal. And like, hey, she was here this whole time.

[Ronnie Karam]

You've got a just reaction for every scene in the mess because she's always there. At least they make it look like she's always there. So Kyle's like, oh, the thing is, he didn't call for us to come to the bridge, did he? He only called for Kyle. So that's all I'll say. That's all I'll say about it. So now Carrie is checking on Sylaine, and he's like, how are you finding everything? She's like, oh, you know, I find things, I lose things. That's how it goes. You know, I try to follow everyone. You know, here's what they say. Silence, silence. Listen to me. So I'm silent, you know, but it's just hard. They're so stupid, these people. Iron the sheet. Don't iron the sheet. What do I do? Let me tell you one thing. I don't do poo poo in the toilet. And he's like, you are so goddamn charming. God.

[Ben Mandelker]

I really think all my previous experience will help me because I was bartender in five star hotel in French Riviera. I was beautician, I was masseuse, I was waxer. I used to wax a lot of genital parts all day long and be like, listen, you know, you wax penis. You know, I have so many memories in my hand. I'm like, yeah, I'm not really sure how the waxing of people's penises is going to help you make a bed better, but I guess there's something. I mean, I can understand the turn down part of it because you sort of are putting things there and pulling them off, but other than that, I'm not really sure how this practically affects your job.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's understandable why she's okay with a wrinkly bed. So then Sulaine drops a glass in the pantry. She's like, I want to cry, but this is too hard, so I won't do it. So Fraser is complimenting Anthony on his amazing charcuterie boards. And of course, you know, Anthony's like, okay, you know, we do cheese boards for dinner. I hope he doesn't hate me. I hope he isn't trying to ruin my life by telling me, like, this charcuterie.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know he's spiraling, but Fraser's like, laying it on thick. He's like, anthony, you are so talented with these boards. The way you put three pieces of prosciutto on a piece of wood and then added a raspberry on the side. It is the work of a genius, dare I say a madman. A mad genius. I mean, like, I was like, it's just a charcuterie board. Okay, yeah. So then we see. Yeah, let's.

[Ronnie Karam]

Let's settle down.

[Ben Mandelker]

I feel like Frasier is like, Fraser is like, a little on this season in a way that I'm really not enjoying. I feel like all of his interviews feel very, like, affected and rehearsed and it's just like, I don't know, it's like not quite landing for me anymore.

[Ronnie Karam]

He adjusts every season for the audience reaction. And I think last season. And the thing is, it takes him half a season to really become the bitch we need him to be on this show. It takes him a while to drop the act. He's got to get super stressed and super, you know, ruffled. For it to really come out.

[Ben Mandelker]

He almost feels like he's like, on the Food Network or something. He's doing, like, Food Network style, you know, interviews where he's like, today we're gonna do something absolutely wild. So wild. But it'll be more. More wild than I wish I could ever say I was. It's just sort of like these generic sort of pattern moments. And I just want better for him because I know he can do better.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So then Rainbow is like, solane, will you please put these things over there? She goes where exactly? She's like, you know the main salon. Remember you've been shown it about three or four times where it goes. And she's like, okay, please. Okay, okay, please. Oh, my God, I'm not a children. And she's like, yeah, thank you. Rainbow's always got such a stick up her butt. My God.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, working with Solene is. Is not easy, but Rainbow kind of sucks, too. Although I'm loving watching Rainbow slowly. Slow. Well, not even slowly. I mean, it's only episode four and she's already had a breakdown. So I'm of. I'm kind of enjoying the Rainbow Train.

[Ben Mandelker]

But she's a D. And don't forget, don't forget she was abandoned on an island to, like, destroy her sister before her father picked her up in an hour. So, like, oh, yeah, that kind of backstory I'll never forget.

[Ronnie Karam]

Literally taken to an island and dropped off to fight to the death in.

[Ben Mandelker]

The middle of a lake in Holland. So now don't bow at me. So they're going to be going on to a kayak. The guests will be going on a kayak excursion later. And Fraser's asking Selene if she wants to go on the kayak, and he's like, go. Go in, Rashi. What is Rashi? No, the one you swim in.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm going to find that I don't really understand this interaction, but she's gonna be going on the kayak.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then I avoid so much, so much to being Rashi. Now you're telling me I have to be Rashi? I don't know. It's a boat. Okay, I do. Where is it? You tell me. I do it. You say please, I say, okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then it just cuts to her just like, once again, just like, plummeting down the staircase. What is she doing on that staircase?

[Ronnie Karam]

So now Rainbow calls her friend and she's like, oh, my God, I had a panic attack. This is like, literally, it's like a lot. I like Came back out, there was like, stuff on a table. Do you know how hard this is? I mean, I took it out on the vacuum cleaner. It was rough. I ended up going to an island with a vacuum cleaner and just banging it against the tree. So I'm basically sweeping with a palm tree now, which is rough. It's hard. It is hard.

[Ben Mandelker]

First rule of Fight Island Club. Don't talk about Fight Island Club. Click. The person just hangs up. So Carrie is talking to Ko, and he's like, well, nice work. So I'm going to take some pressure off of you, and I'm going to take the guests out tonight, because the last thing that I want is for your hair to obstruct their view. The fish in the waters. Are you okay with that, Ko? He's like, oh, you sure? He's like, yes. Also, I don't want you sinking the boats. You know, Ko had a tough day, and I feel compassion for that. And I've had some great mentors and have shown me the right way, and I want to be there so I can support him to succeed. Succeed in adventure. And that's what I want for him to do.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So he's gonna try and work with Weird Al, get some stuff moving. So then Fraser puts Barbara on service, and she doesn't even have to do housekeeping. She's like, yes. So now Carrie is talking to Anthony, and he's how you keep in the place. I mean, you know, it takes more time, more organization, possibly tighter pants, but, you know, it's like. It's way more like, even the floor, you know, like, it's hard. It's very important to keep the floor clean, you know, so I'm really concentrating on the floor, you know, so clean, clean, clean. Everything going well? Mentally stable here. He's like, all right, mate. Jeez, God, I'm looking forward to seeing it come together. Fucking crazy person.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now the guests get onto these really cool kayaks. Like, these glow in the dark kayaks that at night they shine light down onto the fish, and the fish are like, a little discretion, please. Hello. This is like, I'm changing over here.

[Ronnie Karam]

My neighbors are spying. This is really awkward, just having a light shine on you. Like, we're trying to mate here, bitch.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, the gay porn starfish are down there. Be like, yes, Queen. I'm actually married to a woman.

[Ronnie Karam]

This was beautiful. I want to do this at some point. This was absolutely gorgeous. And so he's like, everything comes alive at night. There's turtles, there's fish, there's a with a ring on it. It's slapping me in the face. Excuse me, can you sit down? I'm trying to look at the views here. Geez, these guys.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, look at that. Look, there's a more eel coming towards us. Oh, wait one second. Sorry. That was Cadence. Cade Maddox is ding dong coming out of his pants. All right, fun times here. The best part of me is the adventure. I just think it's awesome. Absolutely epic.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Anthony's stressing is like, laurent is not here no more. So this is only me making everything by myself. This is my Super Bowl. I can do it for Anthony. Put out the pasture. Killed Pastor Wise dead. No see Anthony anymore. So I'm going to do it. I'm going to make good food and have clean floor.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then we have flashbacks. He has like, Vietnam flashbacks to last season when Jill Zarin was terrorizing him. And she's like, hi, I'm gonna show him how to make good Diet Coke. This is how. This is how you make Diet Coke.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is not good. Is someone who's been to a lot of restaurants. No. And so now the guy. Oh, go ahead.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just want to say, if the producers knew what was what was like, how to do their show, they would not have done a five day charter with gay porn stars who, yes, they like, talk about cock rings, but they're ultimately gonna be like, perfectly benign and lovely guests. You're doing the five day charter because you want to put your crew through the ringer, the cock wringer, but you want to, like, make them. You want to make their lives hell for five days. This should have been the Jill Zarin returns to Below deck five day charter. That would have been so perfect. I mean, they just would have all jumped off the boat by the end of it.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now it's time to sit down for dinner. And Fraser's like, tonight's first course will be sushi shrimp tempura. And Marcel's like, this isn't shrimp, is it? Because I'm allergic to shellfish. And Fraser's like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry, My mistake. And they're like, oh, my God, he almost killed you. And so he goes and takes it down. He's like, chef, shellfish allergy. Okay, that is Anthony's fault, but it's also your fault. Taking up shrimp girl.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, too.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you, thank you. That was so obviously, like, you're a team and you have to look out for, like, just he. Anthony needs to know this, but you should also know it, like, it's blatantly a shellfish. Like, you should. You should say, oh, wait, Marcel, you know, like, fisting, yes. Shellfish, no. Like, you have to know what the preferences are.

[Ronnie Karam]

But what if he gets fisted after someone was touching the shrimp?

[Ben Mandelker]

That could actually be a genuine concern. Like, I just had shrimp cocktail and now I'm fisting you. It's like, that could be a problem.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Frasers, like, this is history repeating himself. Oh, God, read the goddamn preference sheet. God, I hope I didn't make the wrong decision in bringing him back. Dun, dun, dun.

[Ben Mandelker]

Also way too dramatic, okay? Like, this is. This is the undermining that. That, like, we talk about, right? Because it's like it was ultimately a mistake. A mistake that you could have helped with if you'd actually just, like, paid attention yourself. And then he's like, oh, no, he's fallen apart already. He's gone cuckoo for. For Cocoa Puffs. We have to commit him to an institution. It's like, no, he made a mistake because he has jitters and he probably shouldn't have come back in the first place, which you advocated for and you didn't help him in this situation, and now you're going to act like he's lost his marbles. I don't think so.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, but I have to say, this is a bad one. This is a really bad one. You can't serve somebody shellfish. It's allergic. They could die. That's a pretty.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know, but, like, Frazier's like, Fraser's already acting like, oh, no, he's already unraveling. I'm like, he made a terrible mistake. Doesn't mean that he's necessarily unraveling. And if he does unravel, that's on you because, like, that was his whole thing from last season, is that he unraveled.

[Ronnie Karam]

You hired the murderer.

[Ben Mandelker]

You hired him.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Fraser's like, please don't make these mistakes because now we look stupid. Yeah, but you both do. And so he's like, okay, okay, you know, you know, my. Here's what my creativity is like. You understand? Not really. Please, please don't murder guests. He's like, oh, my God, this could be terrible. I could kill somebody. But, you know, not reading preference sheet. It's one of the reasons I got fired last season. So I'm putting it on the floor, which I'm really concentrating on now. Stop concentrating on the floor and concentrate on the shellfish, sir. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love Fraser saying, like, these mistakes. Like, these mistakes. You have to concentrate because these mistakes make us look stupid. Now, if you excuse me, I'm going to get my party city dominatrix outfit ready for tomorrow night's dinner.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Kaya's talking to Jess, who I think is eating. I'm just gonna assume she's eating. Oh, no, they're on the swim platform. But it would be better if they were in the mess hall. That's the only place I want to see Jess at this point giving reaction shots while she's eating. But he's like, I need to know that you guys are on my side. And she's like, yeah, I mean, yes, I can confirm we're on your side. And she's like, yes, but you know, I mean, I told the captain, you know, like, it's a boat. I know I can do it. That's why I took the job. I'm up for it. And she goes, yeah, yeah, but you know, it's new, but you know, like, I can't say that it's not something new. It's a challenge for me in a way. You know, I've never had a four people team, but you know what I've always had? Hair. Good hair. Good, good hair. She's like, I'm worried.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm worried for this guy and he's like, you know, when Carrie comes down on me, it's kind of a wake up call, you know, I'm like, I part the blinds of my hair and I say, oh, good morning. I woke up because when I was a kid in school, I was good at everything. Like the best student in the class and all that. I was the best at, I don't know, lunchtime. I was really good at that class and after school snack, really good at that. Really just anything with eating. That's really what I was specialized in. And I mean, I want to do best I can, of course, but if I make a mistake, it's not the best that I can. And I don't like that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, I don't believe that. You were the kid in school that was great at everything. Sorry, don't believe it. You have insecure hair. You have like insecure stupid person here. So the guy the gay porn stars are talking about, like what it's like to be a creator but also have social anxiety.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're like doing like a. Nearly doing like a roundtable for Variety magazine. Yeah, I think there's like a lot of creators that are like introverted, that pretend to be extroverted. And Marcel's like, yeah, I hate people. Yeah, you, like, don't pretend to be Extroverted, y' all. That's just like my craft. Like, I pretend to be like, you know, introverted, but I'm not introverted. Like, it's am averted. I don't know what it is. Yeah, because you get turned inside out because you're introverted out. Yeah, Clean.

[Ronnie Karam]

But they have such. Cade Maddox is like, yeah. You know, one time I was doing this scene where people were bobbing for apples out of my butt. And like, it was really hard because they were always, they were like, hey, how you doing? I didn't want to talk to them. You know what I mean? Get your apple and move away. I've got a bushel up inside me. Can we just move this along?

[Ben Mandelker]

I. I tell you, I have such social anxiety. Like when there are like three dicks in my face just coming at me at the same time, I'm like, I just wish there was just one.

[Ronnie Karam]

So, like, come at me, but don't come at me. You know what I mean?

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, do they think my banter is bad right now?

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

He does seem actually very shy. He like barely talked this in like over both episodes and the times he did talk, he was like, like, hi, I'm Kate. I was like, oh yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't think I've ever seen him do a scene where he has lines. Actually, I don't really remember him ever speaking before this.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, it's like, well, so many comedians are like very like when they're not on stage, they are like very, very quiet and like introverted and so like I actually feel like it probably does extend to porn stars. Like it would make sense, you know?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So we're getting too deep into this. Into these woods. Well, like out of Kate Max.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think that was the review. Wasn't that the review of Kate Maddox's first porno?

[Ronnie Karam]

Too far in the Cade Maddox story. So next course is up. It's chicken teriyaki with oysters. Just kidding. With pineapple. Fried rice in a pineapple. Look at that. And so now Fraser is talking to Damo and he's like, oh my God, you're looking very hot hot. He's like, oh, really? Yeah, really hot. Hot, hot. No, hot, hot, hot, hot. Oh, really? Yeah, hot. God. Someone wrote this down. It's my love story. I look hot. Like I'm hot. Sweaty, hot, hot. No, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now dessert is a banana Nutella samosa. And they love it. And now it's time for the hot bed. I mean, hot bed. Now it's time for the hot tub. So Rainbow is telling Celine what to do. She's like, okay, I would love for you to focus on this area of the pantry. Okay? Like everything on the table, just put it back in the deco cupboard in a nice way. Any questions? Hello. Any questions? You do? Hello. I'm just like, okay, no question. Okay, awesome. Thank you. I do it. You're welcome.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then she. Solan's like, by the way, just so you know, like, I do faster than I can. By the way, Bob means long is done. So you're gonna be very, very happy. I did the bar. I also cleaned toilets. I cleaned all the bedrooms. I vacuum floor. Everything is pick and spam beautiful. And RIM was like, oh, my God, really?

[Ronnie Karam]

So Celine's like, yes, I did everything early. You would be so happy. Happy. And she's like, oh, my God, you are amazing. Give me a hug. That is amazing. I didn't even have to check on you, and you did something without me telling you, girl. Don't believe Elaine. Go check her work. Here's the thing. Like, you've got Fraser getting all pissed off he didn't check the work. You've got her getting all pissed off she didn't check the work. Even Captain Carrie in the start of the season, he was the one to drive that boat to pick up the gas. And he noticed that there was luggage sitting on the dock. He didn't make sure anybody was picking up the damn luggage. Like, there's no people checking. You know, there's supposed to be a hierarchy for a reason. Like, you got to check the work. Don't just hug her. Don't ever hug her.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, like, you are assuming way too much when she says, I clean the bar. That is Solan's way of saying, where is the bar? Can you clean it for me? That's all.

[Ronnie Karam]

What is bar? What is this bar?

[Ben Mandelker]

I wax the bar. I cut all the pub hairs off the bar because of my previous job experience. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

I wax the bar.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Bell is clean, is Brazilian now. So Celine goes up to the living room area, the salon, and then sees that everything is actually all. Not Celine. I mean, Rainbow goes up there and sees that everything is completely dirty and not cleaned at all, and she starts to lose her mind. She's like, I have zero faith in her. I have zero trust in her. And sometimes I do feel like I'd be better off if she just wasn't here.

[Ronnie Karam]

She just fully was okay. It was just there was some stuff left on the table. There's like some paper decorations. And it wasn't that big of a deal, but Rainbow's like, oh, my God. I have zero faith, zero trust. Like, sometimes I feel like it would be better if she just wasn't here. Okay, then just murder her. When is one of these shows gonna, like, do us the Favor of having a murder. I need a murder on one of these.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's gonna happen soon. I swear to God. If there will be a tragedy on below deck, sooner or later we've come close. So it's the next day, it's the morning and guests are seating for breakfast and Rainbow is talking to Damo and, and she's saying that like ram, you know, she's saying that, that she's taken over whatever. She's taking over the room she's here to clean and everything. And then he's like, how is everything going with you and Celine? And she's like, you know, I'm good. I have like no person, no problem with her personally, bro. I mean, I mean, would I like to take her to an island in the middle of Holland? It's beat the shit out of her, perhaps, but no real issue with her. It's just like, you know, when she doesn't work, I work like three times as hard. I'm totally fine.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, she does it like she gets off on doing the martyr thing like, you know, like no one else can work. So I do it. I just do everyone's job and that's just me. He's like, you are amazing. You work non stop. Yeah, that's me. Hard working Rainbow. So Fraser is saying that he's going to go to the beach with the guests and he needs her on board as the second. She's like, oh, wow. So I love being a good crewmate, don't love complaining about Celine. You know, not talking about feelings is like an armor. So I just put on my stew face, you know, like it's gonna get uncomfortable. Sometimes you just, you just have to go through with it, you know, I just don't talk about feelings. Is that a me problem? No, it's a service industry problem. Stop talking about your feelings. You're doing it right now. Smile. Give me a minute. Make my towel into a. Into a dinosaur, please. Shut up.

[Ben Mandelker]

Harness all of your childhood trauma into the shape of a dinosaur in a towel. Towel medium. So Carrie is like, all right everyone, we're gonna bring the tender around. Kyo. We're gonna bring the tender. So we're gonna load the tender and get it backed and get the first wave ashore. You got your checklist? Kayla's like, absolutely. We're going to get the box from Sardinia and bring it onto the boat and then we're going to sail away on a little raft. That's absolutely not what I said whatsoever. Copy that. So then Jason, Kyle are talking and, and Kyle Talk about how he's shared some cheeky messages back and forth. Solene. So all is good. All is good. You know, if you're not fast, you're lost. So they say. A flirtation that I really don't care about.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Carrie and Barbara are talking, and Barbara's like, oh, my God, I've never worked in this charter before. It's my first time. And he's like, oh, my girlfriend, Homie, she gets off one day a week. She used to work for me when I was married. How about that? A few years later, I said, how about we go to dinner? We had actually been committed that entire time. We didn't have dinner until after.

[Ben Mandelker]

A meal less. Relationship is kind of amazing. So Barbara's like, yes, well, I was in a relationship and I've been cheated. And then I'm telling you, I've had so many bad moments in my life, but, like, so many. But this one destroyed me so hard. And, like, she was making plans with me and one day, and then we're like, going to have a dog and we're gonna have a baby and we're gonna have all this and that and all these little things and Nintendo Switch. And then she cheats on me. And then he was our friend. Yeah. A lot of people come and tell me, oh, boy. We see that. We saw. We could tell that was gonna happen. Like, we knew it. They had something, but they had all this time together and everything happened. Like, I don't know. I. Like, I'm ready for relationship. I don't trust anyone, you know, Like, I don't know. It's just like, maybe I got trauma. That's why I have this tattoo that says I don't trust anyone. And, like, if I love separate person so much that, like, she did this with me, like, how can I love someone else? And Carrie's like, alrighty. Well, I think I hear my. My radio going off. Gonna go off to the crew. Up to any other room but this one. Nice chatting, Barbara. It's a lovely time.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And he's like, you know what? I'm changing myself. So I'm attracting the right kind of person. So what I'm saying to you, Barbara, is stop being a shitty person and you'll get less shitty people. It's like, oh, great talk. Thanks. He's like, so when I met that woman, when I met that employee that I ended up leaving my wife for, I decided to become a better person. It's like, your story needs some work, sir. So then we go to Fraser who is talking to Damo about how it is working for the bosun. And Damo's like, oh, a little challenging, you know? Like, I mean, he knows stuff, but his communication could probably use some work. And Kyle's like, I mean, give us five minutes. Fucking hell. Because Kyle's radioing and Fraser's like, okay, all right, boys, let's undermine the bosin. All together now. So Fraser's like, kyo, what the fuck? Like, you bring a guest before I'm ready, that's gonna fuck me over. Could you not.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, that's right. Because they bring the people over too quickly. So then they all get there. The gay porn stars get to the beach, and then it's a nude beach. So they're all gallivanting around naked. And then they're like, the duckies are drawing like a dick in the sand. And Frasier says, if this was a porno, I'd probably call it Sandy Crotch. And Anthony's like, yes, I would call it La Plago Socis. And Fraser's like, it's the peach of Sausages. Sounds delicious.

[Ronnie Karam]

I think that's better than Sandy Crotch. I'm not really sure what kind of porn name that is.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Aren't you trying to get people to jerk off to this?

[Ronnie Karam]

So now Rainbow is emailing. I was going to say Rainbow is emailing. It's. My brain got stuck on emailing. So she's radioing Selene to do cabins. And so he's like, oh, she's very crazy. She's crazy. No. So now she comes down to see Rainbow. And Rainbow goes, yes, Queen Cabin. She's like, but I'm working. I'm not finished. This is a little more important because if guests coming back in 30 minutes and cabins aren't done, we are fucked. We are fucked. Do you understand what I'm saying? Do you have a paper bag for me to breathe into? No, you don't. Then I need you to do the Queen Cabin.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, so we'll do the quick cabin. I mean, what do you want from me? I mean, I'll do the cabin. It's not such a big deal. Fine. You two take Queen Cabin. I do Queen Cabin. I do another cabin. You do a cabin.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's fine. It's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a womb. It gets done. I wax it. I wax cabin. I put hair. Take all the hair out of cabin. No big deal.

[Ronnie Karam]

She goes, okay, but that cabin's done. Then. Can you jump into that one? She goes, oh, my God, that one. Which one is it? A different One. Where's the bed? This is a closet. With food. No, the cabin. No, I don't know Cabin. We're in woods. Where is cabin? Which cabin? Do you have a dress? God damn it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then they're like playing around. Barbara and Celine are like playing around with all the like the kink toys and everything, like masks and rings and stuff. And Selena's like, Rainbow, she says it's the end of world when we don't go fast. But I just tell her maybe to have a drink. Matcha, I don't know. Like maybe she needs sex. Relaxed bodies sex and Matcha Matcha sex. I do not know.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Barbara's like, yeah, you know, I think Rainbow really works a lot. But I don't think Rainbow knows how to say in a nice way. You know, it's like, hey, bro, don't do that. It's not my vibe. And then we get a. We get a montage of Rainbow being like, maybe if you did that like five minutes ago, it would be done. Maybe if you didn't do the sheets like that, the sheets wouldn't be like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know what? I love that like when Rainbow does it, we're like, what a gosh, she's so obnoxious. But then like any other recap of us, like talking about blow deck, we're like, maybe if you did that five minutes ago, you would have time for your break.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, but that's, that's just how it is. Like you can't win. You know what I mean? Like, Fraser could come on here. Like Fraser comes on here, starts the season by being sickly nice to everybody and we're like, oh my God, you're not even doing your job. What are you supposed to be? Everyone's best friend. Then the second he turns bitchy, we're like, oh my God, you need to be nicer if you're going to be the monster people. Like, you're never going to win.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, look at Rainbow being bossy. And then she's like, nice. Like, well, no, what Rainbow needs to say is if you got, if you did this five minutes ago, it'd be done. You don't to have complain about it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, but she really does have a way of speaking to people that's just like, what are you, an idiot?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, she's not pleasant. Yeah, she's not pleasant, but she's funny.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm enjoying Rainbow. Like I. I actually really like Rainbow.

[Ben Mandelker]

I am Rainbow.

[Ronnie Karam]

And like I feel for Rainbow, you know, But I love that her name is Rainbow. And she's always having breakdowns because that's. It's because you misspelled Rainbow.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's right. But you know, you know me, Ronnie. You've known me for a long time. You know, I am Rainbow. Let's be honest. I am Rainbow at all times. Unfortunately. No, I'm Rainbow. And Janet.

[Ronnie Karam]

Look, you're Amy.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm aware of it.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love that you take all the. All the crazy ones you like. Rainbow, Janet, Heather Dubrow. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

All the insufferable ones. I'm like, they're me.

[Ronnie Karam]

Your Rainbow. Like your. Your pride flag is just made out of sticks up acid.

[Ben Mandelker]

A dream, just. It's not even a flag. It's just the pole. It's just the pole. It's a pole with a little butt on top. Oh, gosh.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, so Rainbow is like, our cabin's done as Lyn says. Yeah. And she goes, okay, go on your break. Okay. No, go check the cabins. Have you learned nothing or is this over radio? I don't think this is over radio.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I think it's in person. Celine goes, okay, so maybe I finished pantre, because I never finished. And I always told you to do this in. Do this and this and this. So maybe I just finished, so it'll be quick. She's like, no, I just need you to go on break before they come back. Because if they come back and you're on break, then we're. So go do your break right now. Okay, so you know, I do break. I do break. Cause I never finished, but so I finished everything. Like, Rainbow, like, I'm sorry, but today, like, who's.

[Ronnie Karam]

Who?

[Ben Mandelker]

What, what, what? Who and who? And like, I go on breaks, you an hour. Like, what are you talking about, you crazy person?

[Ronnie Karam]

And Jess is like, look at me. Don't do it. Just stop, just stop. Just stop. Just. And Rainbow's like, I'm trying my best here. And Jess tells her there's nothing you can do, you know, because of course, Jess is eating something there, watching all of this.

[Ben Mandelker]

She is.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Rainbow's like, I am trying to be calm. I can't take it. This is fucking ridiculous. What am I supposed to do in this?

[Ben Mandelker]

So meanwhile, Kao brings Anthony back on board. But when he brings Anthony back on board, he doesn't really announce that he's coming back on board. So he just sort of arrives. And Kara's like, oh, you gotta be kidding me. Okay, Kayo, Kayo's just arriving vessel right now with a chef. Chef. I mean, just showing up with a Chef who does that. So then meanwhile Rainbow is like, I.

[Ronnie Karam]

Had the most stressful hour of my life.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Barbara's like, let me tell you something, you know what's a stressful hours? The hour when you find out the woman who was going to buy a dog with you one day leaves you for a man. That's a stressful hour. This, this is nothing. Just treat her like big kid. We have to treat her like this. Otherwise you know, annoying.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she's like, treat her like an idiot or she won't help us. You know, she's like, oh God. So she just walks off. So now Kyle is putting the guests back on board and then everyone else is cleaning up the beach. And Fraser's like, we better get a good tip for that. And Carl's like, I reckon 40, 40k. He's like, I reckon 40, 40k mate. For five days I thought so too. These gays should be ashamed of themselves. My God, they should be.

[Ben Mandelker]

They should be ashamed.

[Ronnie Karam]

I always thought onlyfans people made like $8 million a day or something. Like every time you see it reported it's like only fans creator just bought a 37 million dollar house in Beverly Hills.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, they this is mortifying. What ultimately happens. So Carrie is like, well I'm getting stupid frustrated because I've been sitting at the wheelhouse waiting for the comms and you know, the gay person was like, yeah, we've been waiting for the comms here. So Ko's like, what? What? Yes. No, I should have picked up radio. Hair. Hair. And Carrie's like, well you should have grabbed the radio. You could have called me and say hey, I'm heading back with a guest. Because sometimes if I see a boat leaving from the beach where the guests were and it comes to our boat, I have no idea if that's our boat or just some other mystery boat that arrived and it's just copycutting our Tinder. How am I supposed to know unless you communicate?

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, oh okay guys, just like whatever.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then he's like, dude, he's like shouting about getting this place looking good. But then he breaks cakes and stuff in front of the guests. And Kyle's like, I know, shut up. So Fraser is checking on Rainbow. She's like, I mean there was just a little incident. I'm doing great. Everything is great here. Except that I have Celine. She won't take a break. I mean I'm like telling her to do a cabin. She's like no, I want to do the pantry. And I'M like, she's refusing to take a break. So, I mean, otherwise everything's vacuumed. Me and the vacuum cleaner made up. I had done bend it. So that was. Was rough. It was hard. I took my aggression out on. I'm. I'm sorry, vacuum cleaner. But it's okay now. And the table's being set, which I'm sure won't be cleaned later because Rainbow will be in charge of it. Thanks for asking, Fraser.

[Ben Mandelker]

Rainbow, are you putting a razor into a stroopwafel? Yes, just a little something we do in Holland on murder day. That's fine. It's fine. Okay. Well, five days is a long time period. Okay. And we have. We have theme after theme after theme. And this is asking a lot of us, but this tonight is going to be fun. The guests have requested an S and M Venetian private members of the sort of party. And I am feeling it. So I'm going to do an incredibly awkward dinner party that will seem funny on paper, but will read as sort of strange to the audience at home. Commercials.

[Ronnie Karam]

Here comes one right now.

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

And then we get another monologue from Anthony about how difficult life is being. Anthony, he's like, oh, yesterday was difficult. And I. I hear this little voice inside of me. You can't do it. You're stupid. I hate your pants. I hate your face. And it sounds like Fraser. Oh, no, what am I going to do? But this time, I will try not to poison anybody. Oh, I just don't want the little voice in my head saying, serve him shellfish. He doesn't deserve to live. He puts fist in his mouth. Kill him. Kill him. Die. So.

[Ben Mandelker]

Now Selena's vacuuming stairs and Rainbow's like, thanks, babe. How was your break? Oh, you know, I slept. I slept. You know, I just go to bed, then I sleep. That's all I do. It doesn't break. That's what I do. But now I'm awake. I'm awake. But then I'll sleep later. Now I'm gonna sleep now and I'll sleep later. You know, things like that, you know, experience. Okay, well, can we hug it out? I'm sorry for being crazy this morning and I. I just wanted to give you a hug so that way you don't think I'm super crazy when I lose my mind on you again in about 45 minutes. So just a little hug intermission. Okay, Here we go.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, so Solene forgives her, but she's like, your fixed man means nothing to me. So then Anthony's making dinner and Carrie is checking in on Kyle. And Kyle basically says, yeah, it's a great, great season. You know, I mean, Kyle kind of sucks, but. Nice guy, but kind of sucks. But thanks for having me back. Damn, these people really hate Kyle. Everybody carries checking in with is like, yeah, that guy sucks, but thanks for talking. Thanks for the talk.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, because even these bros, normally the bros cover, cover for bros, but this time they're like, yeah, he sucks. So then Fraser is now. Fraser is now in like S M Venetian, you know, party party mode. And so he knocks on the. On the porn stars door and he's like, hello, the word to be used enter our dungeon this evening. And the sky's like, oh my God, what is it? Safe word. Doesn't open it. What's the word? And they open it up and the safe word is Saint.

[Ronnie Karam]

Captain Slavery was right about me.

[Ben Mandelker]

The. The safe word is Norma.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now they're supposed to be doing this S and M thing, but Fraser just does not have the personality for it. And it is hilarious. He just comes out and he's like, you all look like shit. All right, it's our game tonight, not yours. All right, enjoy your meal. I mean, do not enjoy your meal. I mean, God, someone just kissed me. Please, any kind of approval, please.

[Ben Mandelker]

The guests are like, saint slaved. Safeword. Because I feel like the theme was supposed to be, like, dominatrix, whatever, S M. But I don't think it was supposed to be like a. The staff is supposed to yell at the guests. I thought it was supposed to be, like, just like, leather and, like, whips and funny and it's kind of just like, just strange. Because then Fraser, like, enlists Anthony. He's like, never. Remember, Anthony, we're playing characters tonight. We are not smiling and we are. Oh. Because we're playing characters. You're going to cook good food that won't kill people. Do you think you can get into that character from your normal self?

[Ronnie Karam]

Fraser thinks that it just means that he can be, like, filterless, you know, and be his real personality. Because I think you're right. I think SNM's supposed to be like, yes, welcome to your sexy dinner. Enjoy this steaky. Manly. I mean, something. But Fraser just, like, just be rude. So he comes out and he's like, this is the chef. He makes the food, you idiots. All right, go ahead, Anthony, do your lines.

[Ben Mandelker]

Anthony does not know what to do. He's like, well, obviously it's pasta with black pesto. And, like, it's stupid, so eat it because you're stupid. And then they're like, thank you. He's like, didn't say thank you. I'm like, I hope this is not snm. This is just you being a dick.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, I don't even care. Enjoy it or don't. Goodbye.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like a.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Barbara and S Are talking about. And they're. They're talking about sex toys because they're in one of the rooms. And Barbara's like, do you know what is. Come here. And it's a cock ring. And says, it's a wing. And she goes, yes, it's a ring. A ring for your willy. And she goes, what? She goes, did you touch it? She goes, I thought it was jewelry. She goes, don't touch me with it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So do you imagine us laughing together? Like, four days ago? I'm so happy now.

[Ronnie Karam]

I guess Elaine ended up getting along.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. And I guess that's the Lane's experience. Like, waxing all sorts of guys. Dicks did prepare her to be sort of fearless touching her cock ring, so. And then after she does all this, she then helps serve dessert to the.

[Ronnie Karam]

We shake hands with people. I don't. I don't think a wiener is any worse? I mean, you watch the wiener and you pretty much put it away. Hands do way grosser things, you know? I'd rather shake your wiener than your hand.

[Ben Mandelker]

Sure, there will be some people who will take you up on that offer. Just say it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Call me. My DMs are open.

[Ben Mandelker]

Another Cade Maddox movie. So then Fraser is like, well, we hope you enjoyed your evening this evening. We hope you enjoyed your evening this evening. We are sorry. We're so sorry for being totally of. I'm like, well, I guess. I guess.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, we just kind of ruined that one. So next day was charter day five of five. And so the guests are ready to depart. I mean, basically, we just have to say they. They shorten this whole thing and they do a montage. They're like, here's day two, here's day three, here's day four, here's day. And it's. It.

[Ben Mandelker]

Look how tired they are. Like, the crew is tired from just, you know, getting drinks from some generally very nice men. So, yeah, they make it to day five of five, and Kyle is talking to Solene. He's like, tomorrow we finish work, and me and you are going for a drink. She's like, okay, yeah, okay. Maybe dinner.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

But I think maybe a drink. Just a drink.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, maybe. Because after I had too much of Scottish. Yeah, you never have enough. Too much Scottish.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

So he wants her. And so now they're leaving, and Sky's like, you guys, thank you so much for this wonderful week. Chef. This food was out of this world from me and the boys.

[Ben Mandelker]

Mwah.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was like, come on. That's it. I thought there was gonna be some flourisher here or something. Sky, you know, it was nothing but dick jokes the whole time. And now you're just like, bye. So they leave.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're right.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. And Fraser Anthony calls his mom, and he's like, mother, Things are going okay. Well, I almost killed somebody, but otherwise it's okay. But I don't know about Frieza. I still don't know. I need to talk to Fraser.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then Fraser's talking to Jess, and he's like, how cool is Damo? He's super attractive. And I spoke to my boyfriend about it, and I was like, it's fine for me to make out with other people, right? And he was like, absolutely not. And Jess is like, well, explain your relationship. And she's like, well, I've seen him for five days in 2024, and each day was absolutely stupid. I don't know why I'm with this man. Probably because I'm hideous and have no self esteem.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So he thinks it might be the wrong time. He's like, you know, it's just that I'm fed up of having a pen pal and calling it a boyfriend. So then Carrie gets the tip meeting going in the Sky Lounge. The Sky Knox Lounge. And they're going to change the name of Sky Lounge after this shitty tip. Sky serious shitty tipper. So it's like, all right, you all did great. The tip doesn't reflect it. It's nineteen nine hundred and ninety dollars. He even took ten dollars to tip a cabbie out of the twenty K. So that's really bad. I'm sorry about that. You would expect more from a barrel of dicks, but that's what we get.

[Ben Mandelker]

And unfortunately, it's all in singles. You know, I like, the last charter gave $30,000 off of like a standard two and a half day, you know, trip. So the fact that these, like, you would think it would be at least like around about double, maybe a little bit lower, and like 19,000. Congratulations, contessa. You are finally, you are finally off the hot seat. The gay porn stars are now the new high bar for bad tippers on this show.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, terrible, terrible, awful.

[Ben Mandelker]

Embarrassing. I thought for a moment, I thought there was gonna be a misdirection. Like, this tip doesn't even reflect your work. It reflects more. They gave you 50,000, but I was like, whoa, 19,000, that's mortifying.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, this was shameful. So he's gonna send them to dinner instead. And they're like, oh, my God. Then we saw so much penis. I've never seen so much penis in my life. And that was penis.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm looking up, I'm looking to see if Sky Knox has. Has like made a statement. Because sometimes this happens. Happens when they get like, shamed for their tipping. I'm gonna see if he, like, says something like, guys, you don't really understand. Like, we wanted to give a bigger tip, but then production advised us not to. I'm wondering if he's gonna like, have some sort of statement. But I don't see anything. But I will keep tabs on it and I will report back to see if he's been publicly shamed.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay. So then the crew goes out and then they're partying back at the place. And the big news is they're getting sexy in the hot tub and Kyle is playing the guitar in his cabin, which of course he is. Let's just show him. Like, I'm going to go be autistic. But then the big news is Fraser and Damo make out and Damo tells us, yeah, you know, he's a good kisser, you know, and look, listen, I've absolutely kissed a guy before, you know, I mean, one day I saw this guy and he's good looking and I said, what the. Am I gay? But I guess I've just been open to it because I thought maybe I could be potentially gay. Like maybe be 50, have two kids and a wife and be like, hey, honey, I'm leaving you for a man. You know, that could be me. Who knows? There, so why not get it while it's here?

[Ben Mandelker]

I love him preloading his midlife crisis. He's like, I'm just getting ready for it, getting some practice in, gonna try it out with Fraser. So I'm gonna make out with him in the hot tub. Which was like, whoa. Also, I wish we had had some sort of like buildup. They just started kissing out of nowhere. There wasn't any, like, anything. They just.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, we saw some build up earlier where he was like, they were like, am I hot? No. Are you hot like hot or am I hot? No. Are you hot hot? I mean, for Fraser, that's like the Notebook.

[Ben Mandelker]

Absolutely disgusting. I love it.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Fraser's like, well, I do have a boyfriend, but I'm not exactly worried about it. And if he's mad, he probably will be able to tell me off about it for six months or so. And then only at a quick dinner to Applebee's so I can take this.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then everyone leaves. And now Kyle and Seleno left there and Kyle's like, well, you know, do you want to kiss? She's like, yeah, okay, come over here. He's like, okay. So he like, he like paddles across the pool and then he like, they start making out. It's like, I'm very well aware that I fall pretty quickly. She just needs to look at me the right way. And then I'm like, that's it. I love her. She's mine. I have a problem.

[Ronnie Karam]

And so Lane's like, I don't know, you know, I'm in a stupid, but who knows where it could go. I have not seen him rinse off a cold cut yet, so I just don't know if he's my type of man.

[Ben Mandelker]

I enjoy kiss cookie. And that's the end of the episode. So, you know, a. A little anticlimactic. I was, I was expecting more chaos from this five day trip. I was, you know. But that's okay. They can all be crazies and fun times. And we will be back next week with more of Ko's descent into bad Bosendom. So enjoy that and we'll catch you on the next Crappies episode. Everyone. Bye. Watch what Krappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King Our.

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Today is the worst day of Abby's life. The 17 year old cradles her newborn son in her arms.

[Ronnie Karam]

They all saw how much I loved him.

[Ben Mandelker]

They didn't have to take him from me.

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Between 1945 and the early 1970s, families shipped their pregnant teenage daughters to maternity homes and forced them to secretly place their babies for adoption in hidden corners across America. It's still happening. My parents had me locked up in the godparent home against my will.

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They worked with them to manipulate me and to steal my son away from me.

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The godparent home is the brainchild of controversial preacher Jerry Falwell, the father of the modern evangelical rite and the founder of Liberty University, where powerful men emboldened by their faith, determine who gets to be a parent and who must give their child away. Follow Liberty Lost on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts.