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Ronnie Karam
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Ronnie Karam
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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- [03:53]
Ronnie Karam
Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens?
- [03:59]
Ben Mandelker
Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Croppens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there. Hi, Ben.
- [04:05]
Ronnie Karam
Hi, Ronnie. How's it going?
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Ben Mandelker
Saga, what's going on with you today?
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Ronnie Karam
Oh, you know, not much. Just, you know, making my way through the week. What's going on with you?
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Ben Mandelker
Same. Same. Well, I'm very disappointed to announce I'm going to play pickleball today. I just had to confess it to everybody because I've stood against pickleball as a lifestyle for years. But my friend almost died and she asked me to come and I was like, it's. You're making almost wish things. I'll go.
- [04:33]
Ronnie Karam
You got to honor it. You got to honor it. You got to go down to the pickleball.
- [04:36]
Ben Mandelker
What if I like it?
- [04:38]
Ronnie Karam
That's okay. If you like it. Like, at certain point, like, you know, everyone likes it. We can't resist pickleball. It's coming for us all. It's like the zombie friend was like.
- [04:46]
Ben Mandelker
We'Re old, so you need to do something pickleball. So I guess it's pickleball. So it's just giving in, giving it to the age as year 50 approaches. Anyway, everybody just wanted to get my confession out of the way because it's sad. I'm disappointed in me too. So unsubscribe.
- [05:03]
Ronnie Karam
Now, these are your confessions. Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm also doing a. A Bravo event. You know, you're doing pickleball, which is obviously a mainstay on Bravo these days. I'm also going to be doing something Bravo y. I'm doing a. I'm participating in my very first ever murder mystery party on Saturday. So, you know, we're both going down the. The Bravo activity, say wormhole, but the rabbit hole. Rabbit hole. So, you know, except I'm actually excited for mine.
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Ben Mandelker
My sister was calling me because my 50th birthday is coming, and so she's like, we have to do something huge. We all want to come in town and have a murder mystery party at your house. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Thank you, but no, no to all of that. Thanks.
- [05:52]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
I will die playing pickleball first. Okay, I will first. But yeah, I'm glad we're both kind of giving in slowly, you know, to our basic old age.
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Ronnie Karam
Although the truth is, I've always wanted to do a murder mystery party. So for me, it's. It's not that I'm, like, sacrificing any standards like the way you are. I'm actually just leaning into the things that I really want to do. And I can still hold my head up high on, like, I don't know, like, I don't know, giving into pickleball. But that's okay, Ron. You can just. You just betray me in this way.
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Ben Mandelker
Well, someone. We're not betraying the Hearts on Love island, which we're doing on our Patreon bonus episodes. Join us over at Patreon for all of those. Those are a great time. If you want videos of these recaps and those recaps, go on Crappin on Demand. Okay? That's where we're. We are right now doing the video. Today is Next Gen nyc. Okay. That's what we're doing. Some more daddy issues on Next Gen nyc. Why doesn't my daddy love me? Is your daddy trying to make you play pickleball and have murder mystery parties? No. Be grateful.
- [07:03]
Ronnie Karam
That's right. I want to amend something I said last week. I said, there's too many parents. Like, we want to focus on the kids. We don't want to focus on the parents. I want to amend that. I want to welcome all the Asshole parents. But I don't necessarily. I don't know if I need as much Seth Marks. I think Seth Marks may really be the issue here because he's just. He's just cheesing it up for the camera too much. He's acting like he's never been on reality tv. I mean, he's been around for a while. I mean, why is he acting so new around the cameras? Please give me Anwar. Please give me cold and dismissive someone who just absolutely is so disappointed with the. With the fruits of his labor like he has. And not that he really has put in much labor or fruit, but, you know, I love seeing a wealthy parent just totally add more damage to their child. Like we see with Anwar and Charlie. I don't know if I need to see Seth trying to pal around with the shit eating grin to Brooks. So more Anwar. More Anwar's family. More all of that. Less Seth Marks. That's my request.
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Ben Mandelker
I love Anwar too, and his hatred for Charlie because he speaks for the audience.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
However, I do love Seth and I need more Seth trying to understand anal sex and pansexualism. So I just. I'm totally.
- [08:16]
Ronnie Karam
Small doses, Small doses of Seth. You know, I like Seth. I can't even believe I'm in a place where I would even say I like Seth overall as an entity. But I think there's just a little bit too much of him. And it's. It's like we. I need to see more disappointment in the children. Not like someone who's proud of his child. He's like, way too happy with what Brooks is doing with his life. And I need to see. I need to see a father who has, you know, better plans for his child instead.
- [08:44]
Ben Mandelker
I would love to see Brooks being fathered by Anwar and just see the difference in Brooks by have. Just by having a parent that's like you. You don't even know how to thread. Bob a bobbin like. Fucking idiot. And what you have sweatsuits. Jeez. Really? So this is how we're doing our eyebrows now? Really? Really. Oh, this is why I like Chloe more. No wonder someone wanted to bang Chloe. Guess what? I don't hear anybody's friends bragging about banging Brooks.
- [09:12]
Ronnie Karam
All right. I would love Anwar to adopt Brooks because then I feel like Anwar would play a sick game where he puts all his love and attention on, but then withholds from Charlie even more. And seeing Brooks being the favorite son between Charlie, between him and Charlie is kind of a dynamic I would really enjoy. I guess it's playing out now with the audience.
- [09:31]
Ben Mandelker
We're getting it. Yeah, that's what we're getting now. I mean, Brooks barely shows up in the episode. He's like, oh, hi, you're Charlie's dad.
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Ronnie Karam
Wow.
- [09:39]
Ben Mandelker
I'm Brooks Marks. I got a sewing machine from Target. And his dad's like, wow, look at this person making an effort in their life. That's nice. Hopefully you rub off on Charlie. Okay.
- [09:51]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. Literally. Anwar is more proud of Dylan, the onlyfans model. He's like, at least he's doing something with his life. At least he's trying to have good body, make some money off of it. Come on, please do anything.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, you got an only model friend. What, am I supposed to be disappointed? He can probably stay long, hard longer than you, you impotent piece of. Get out of here. Crypto.
- [10:12]
Ronnie Karam
You know, Charlie, I do. I do believe that there's a platform that would be very good for you that you do very well on. It's called only Disappointments. And you could be just like the leading star.
- [10:21]
Ben Mandelker
Only pants. As in, this is the only kind of review you ever get.
- [10:28]
Ronnie Karam
So we begin. Brooks, Meredith, and seth are wearing 3D glasses. And they are. They're at some place, I don't know, installation.
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Ben Mandelker
It's like some art, like, video art installation, where, like, the whole room is video. I want to see the Monet thing. Was it monetized that they did Picasso? I think it was Picasso, the immersive Picasso. Where, like, you walk through Picasso's story and there's, like, stories about Picasso everywhere. And all I could see were the cracks in the walls. I was like, this is not immersive. Like, you guys need to get better walls. Because, like, I see cracks in the painting and, like, you hear the hum of the video machine. The video machine. I was like, yeah, Picasso wouldn't like this.
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Ronnie Karam
I'm not an old. It's like, it's just like one of these quote unquote museums that's really made for social media. So you can take cool photos and it looks great on the gram. And then everyone goes and pays $35 to go take more pictures. So that's basically where they're at.
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Ben Mandelker
I did that. I was one of those.
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Ronnie Karam
I've done it too. I went to an amazing one. I went to the Museum of balloons.
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Ben Mandelker
I will say that Picasso's face needs more Instagram filters before they make it that big. Because, you know, you'd walk in and there's like, Picasso's face. I'm like, that man needs to moisturize. Ok. How are you charging me this much money and no one is getting Picasso retin a. Like, we live in a lot a time of filters. Help the man out.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah. I mean, no wonder why he depicted people's faces in triangles and squares. It's like, that is like the new. That was like, facetune of, like, 1907.
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Ben Mandelker
Did they not moisturize in 1907? I know they had beef tallow back then.
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Ronnie Karam
Did you put a filter on this?
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, they need to filter Picasso because he was disgusting. And I think it's because he wasn't famous before he died. I'd like to think, like, if he actually became famous in his lifetime, he'd be like, I've invented a filter. Of course, his filter would be like, your face would be melting off, you know, the Picasso filter.
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Ronnie Karam
But I feel like Picasso was actually. I feel like he was reasonably famous during his lifetime. I mean, didn't he leave to live to, like, the 1970s? I played some trivia game that was like, he did. Like, who? Yeah, something like that. I think that, like, Picasso and Kim Kardashian overlapped in lifetime. I played some.
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Ben Mandelker
At least.
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Ronnie Karam
I'm not even joking. I played some quiz game that was like, which two people's lives overlapped and they had a variety of different celebrities. And I think the answer was, like, Kim Kardashian, Pablo Picasso, so. Or I could be spreading just massive inconsequential information.
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Ben Mandelker
You're correct. I looked it up. It says, no, Pablo Picasso did not die before he became famous. He achieved widespread recognition and by doing a sex tape with Kris Jenner and became one of the most famous blowjob artists of the 20th century during his lifetime. Wow.
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Ronnie Karam
Now that you say that. I do remember that Kris Jenner did sing a song on a private plane to Picasso called We Love Cubism. Do do do do do do do do do do.
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Ben Mandelker
Paid attention during that art installation. All I cared about was the moisturizing. So we go to.
- [13:37]
Ronnie Karam
Why are we talking about Picasso? Yeah, we just went, oh, museums. I can. No, no, no, I don't. It's not.
- [13:46]
Ben Mandelker
It's your immersive installations. That's what we were talking about. Because this. The Seth Marks family is doing that, and, you know, they're trying to meditate. And Seth's like, whoa, look at this. It's like a trip. Am I right? Hey, have you ever tripped while you've had sex with multiple people? Brooks, come on. I'm just trying to be like your mom. Come on kid.
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Ronnie Karam
And. And then we cut to Dylan. He's at the gym and he's working out. And then Charlie's at home, he's rolling a joint, and he's telling the camera crew, by the way, if you see anything in the shot that looks unattractive, just tell me to throw it away because I don't want to come across like a fucking bum. Okay? Like, I'm almost 30 and they're going to, like, really roast the shit out of me if I'm just, like, rolling joints and living in a mess. You know, I'm like, sorry, Charlie, you are now living in Bravo's breaking the fourth wall era, where they don't mind actually airing any of what you just said.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, they're making you look, like, terrible on purpose, babe. And so they pull back, and he's not just rolling a joint, he is rolling a joint off a mound of weed. I mean, that's a lot of weed. That's like a little baseball mound of weed. He's rolling and there's just shit everywhere, trash everywhere, clothes all over the floor. So then we go to Ariana and Hudson. They're looking at an apartment in Soho, and they find out, you know what? It's the one. It's only $10,000 a month. It's the. It's the apartment the fried chicken built.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, it's just a real reasonable, affordable $10,000 a month apartment. Like, you know, it's. I like to call it a starter apartment for all the kids that come to New York. So you start with that and then, you know, you move on to. Yeah, let me just move on to something.
- [15:27]
Ben Mandelker
Just like that bench I lived in across from the jewelry store at the park.
- [15:31]
Ronnie Karam
That was $12,000 a month. That was a little Lux.
- [15:35]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. With my suitcases, my pillow. Same death. So then Gia is doing a podcast with her mom and basically scrolling on her phone. Her mom's like, gia, we're doing it. We're doing a podcast about shaving. Like Chocolina. Come on.
- [15:52]
Ronnie Karam
And then Riley. Riley's had a pretty good edit so far this season. And then this is the first time I was like, oh, Riley. And she's just at home practicing DJing, which I don't know why. And anytime I see someone just with those little. Those little turntables, those digital turntables that I feel like aren't really doing anything, I just always roll my eyes.
- [16:12]
Ben Mandelker
That's how you do it now?
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, I guess so.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And so she's doing that, but, you know, what makes me crazy about DJs, they use their headphones like a prop, but they never, like, listen through their headphones. And I know they're using them to mix the different. You know, the two different tracks so the whole audience doesn't hear both. But still, like, you've got headphones there. Put them on. This is an apartment. I don't want to hear your shitty DJing. Yeah, I don't need to hear no Scrubs mixed with Ave Maria at the top of the.
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Ronnie Karam
Well, I might need to hear that. That sounds good, right? That sounds wonderful. You know, Pablo Picasso used to dj, but he take two Victrolas and just, you know, spin them together. It was very before his time.
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Ben Mandelker
Victor was. So then we go to Meredith and Seth back at the meditation place, and Brooks is like, well, I've just spent too much time with my parents. And, like, other people have freedom from their parents, but I, like, don't, because, like, other kids leave the nest, but then my parents just move the nest here. Ew.
- [17:21]
Ronnie Karam
Nuts are disgusting. So then Meredith is. She somehow has climbed up a net, which is just a funny concept in general. Meredith marks climbing something, and then she's like, wow, I'm at the top of a net, and I don't really know how to get down. And I'm afraid that if I jump, I may land on my toddler and crash him. So Seth is like, so she does.
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Ben Mandelker
We think it's. Meredith laughs like, throwing herself around a nap.
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Ronnie Karam
I love this museum. So Seth is like, you know what, Brooks? You're like, charlie, are you on. You're. Are you hungover right now? And he's like, no, I don't even know. I didn't even know you're going to meet with Charlie. That's, like, disgusting. That.
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Ben Mandelker
How would you feel if your dad started meeting up with your friends? I don't know, but my mom was doing that for a while. I had to cut her off because my mom was hanging around all my friends and getting wasted and stuff and starting fights with my friends. There was a time period I had to be like, okay, you know what? It's time to show you where the country club is. Okay. Can't be getting fistfights with my friends. Jeez. So then Meredith is like, seriously? And Brooks is like, yeah. How would you feel if your dad met up with your friends? Like, it's a bit much for me because, like, you guys share a lot of friends with me. Well, stop having such sweet friends with so many stem cells available, because, you know, Meredith Is standing behind all of them with syringes, taking a tiny bit of spinal fluid.
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Ronnie Karam
It's just like the substance. What if it turns out Meredith is on the substance and all this time, Chloe is just like young Meredith and we just didn't realize. Has Chloe. Have Chloe and Meredith ever been in the same room together? Just her young, young version that crawled out of Meredith's back.
- [19:12]
Ben Mandelker
Yes, and there's a lemon to prove it. When they all had to put their hands on the lemon. And cut.
- [19:16]
Ronnie Karam
That's true.
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Ben Mandelker
It took the whole thing. Yeah, yeah.
- [19:19]
Ronnie Karam
Theory has been disproven already.
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Ben Mandelker
Looks like young Meredith Marks. I mean, have you ever gone to an art installation with your mother who's in, like, a short mini dress that sequenced and is bouncing all over a netted, like, bed? Not me. I mean, that woman's already been on the substance. I don't know what the hell she's taking, but I'll have.
- [19:42]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, yeah. It's truly so. So, yes. Brooks is saying how he doesn't feel like he has a lot of independence from his parents. And Seth is like, well, you have complete independence from me, but you are entirely attached to your mom. You're like a little baby kangaroo. And then we see flashback to Seth telling Brooks that he wants to be his mother. He's like, I want to be the mother. Yeah. Well, I think. Think that dad wants me to cut the cord with my mom so he can attach it to himself. It's, like, disgusting and gross.
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Ben Mandelker
So he wants to know what they talked about, and he's like, I. What we talked about was finding your purpose. You know, my life changed the second I realized my purpose is boobs. Just trying to get that across to the kids. You know, some of us don't have dads that love us. You know, he's just authentic. And sometimes when you're authentic, authentic, you can get into trouble.
- [20:41]
Ronnie Karam
Especially when you're authentically a douchebag.
- [20:45]
Ben Mandelker
Complete prick.
- [20:47]
Ronnie Karam
He's truly a douchebag from inside and out. It's. There's no, like, sweet guy on the inside. He's authentically that. So now we. Speaking of Charlie, we go to him having lunch with Anwar and his girlfriend Talia. And of course, they're at Cafe Ballud. So they're at, like, a very fancy restaurant for lunch, which I love. I just, like, I don't have anything against, obviously, going to a fancy restaurant. I love going to a fancy restaurant. But, like, to me, what's funny is that this kid is. To him, it's probably Just like going to McDonald's. So.
- [21:15]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, well, that's when you should be eating it. Balloon. When it's like, meh. Balloon. God, I hate how I hate his Caesar. All right, let's go there. You know, like, when you've got the money, I think it's sad to go to Ballud when you're like, oh, my God, this is like 3 months rent. I don't know how I'm gonna do this. You know, that's for when you're rich. Rich. It's like when you dress really stupid because you're. You just can. You're just rich enough and you can, you know.
- [21:41]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. So. Well, it's weird because we see Charlie. He's going to have lunch with Anwar and his girlfriend, but then we come right back to the museum. So it's almost like a sneak preview of what's to come. Coming up soon, lunchtime with Charlie and his family. But we're back at the museum, so Seth is like, yeah, well, he talked about his roommate Dylan. What about Dylan? He's another friend of mine. He has a really good body and stuff. And Meredith's like, well, Seth, you're acting very bizarre. And furthermore, I'm trying to get some altitude sickness up on the high part of this net. Could someone please let me down?
- [22:15]
Ben Mandelker
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- [24:56]
Ronnie Karam
He's berating the waiter. Olive oil and vinegar only. If I see anything else, I will throw it in your face. Which is probably too poor to wipe it off.
- [25:06]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And so I just like that. Charlie's like, I'll share with whatever you order. He's like, would you get a salad only for me and her? Only lettuce. Don't let him touch.
- [25:16]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah. And I have a question on the menu since we are doing family style and we he is going to share. Do you have body of Dylan so he can eat it and hopefully become that? No.
- [25:26]
Ben Mandelker
Oh, okay then do you maybe have some drive to feed my son? That would be nice. Some ambition, maybe some talent, anything. Okay.
- [25:34]
Ronnie Karam
Financial instincts you want. Do you have that on the menu for him? No.
- [25:40]
Ben Mandelker
So he's like, yeah, look, Italia, she's great. Look at you. Pathetic, alone, no one to share salad with, no dressing with. So what are you doing here? What you've been doing here? Are you even going to try today? And Charlie's like, yeah, she's like, really nuts. Like, my parents both found insane people. So like, I'm still dating around, you know. He's like, frankly, I feel bad for you. Look at you. Disgusting.
- [26:05]
Ronnie Karam
You're like pre made dressing, wasteful, stupid, creamy, disgusting, fake. When are you going to have atalia in your life? What's going on with you, by the way? And he's like, with what? With my dating life. What? What are you talking about? Yeah, your love life. Your stupid love life. Your stupid bad body love life. He's like, well, I'm dating around. I mean, I'm having fun. He's like, well, yeah, I feel bad for you because you don't have Talia, okay? Because you never have what I have and you can never achieve. It's hard to achieve perfection. Like Talia. You must be eating a lot of salad dressings that are more than just a simple oil and vinegar emotion, aren't you?
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Ben Mandelker
And so the producer asked Charlie, do you remember something that your dad said to you that really hurt you? He's like, like it would be harder to remember something that didn't hurt me. Oh, whatever person sitting in an apartment when you have no job rolling joints out of giant bags of weed and eating it balloon. Your dad is doing just fine, okay? You got enough money to go buy emotional support somewhere.
- [27:06]
Ronnie Karam
I'll tell you a lot of those things that probably that you thought like, hurt you. Probably wouldn't be so hurtful if you were stuck eating sweet green every day. So Tally's like, why don't you come over tomorrow by the pool? It's beautiful out. Come on over. He's like, okay, I'll invite my friends over so they can see how rich we are. Cool. So then the food comes and then Anwar yells the waiter again. He's like, this food looks dry. Okay, I need olive oil and lemon. None of that stuff. What? I don't want that disgusting condiment. Only olive oil and lemon. What did you not understand about that?
- [27:39]
Ben Mandelker
So they talk about the grandma and Anwar's like, oh, she was very concerned that she wasn't going to be living on the 85th floor again, you know. But when she was at the home, she didn't really care, you know? Or if she did, I don't know, because I had her phone cut off. I had her tongue cut out. So she couldn't complain. I took off her index finger. Because who can write complaint letters when they don't have an index finger? Not your granny.
- [28:03]
Ronnie Karam
And Charlie goes, oh, yeah, same thing with the 32nd floor. Of the old apartment. Well, first of all, we on the 28th, not the 32nd, you stupid person. You had four extra floors of stupidity for that one. And Charlie's like, no. It's like, you want to bet? He's like, yeah, I'll bet you a hundred dollars. Okay, 100 bucks and a bottle of olive oil. Okay, you're the witness, Talia. You get to watch this. We're going to call someone who somehow knows everything about what floors we used to live on.
- [28:26]
Ben Mandelker
Hello, secretary of stupid face. So what floor did the elevator used to end on before it went to penthouse? Huh? And Rick. Rick is his name. He's like, I'm. My name is Rick.
- [28:38]
Ronnie Karam
Thanks.
- [28:38]
Ben Mandelker
I've been working for you for 37. I don't care. Olive oil. To say it like it's the 25th floor. Oh, wow, look at that. I won a hundred dollars of my own money because my son doesn't make a living. Oh, hey, person. Stupid face. Could you please take a hundred dollars out of Charlie's account for me? Thank you.
- [28:59]
Ronnie Karam
Okay, Charlie. So you are wrong. And so he's like, wow. See, he's never wrong. Well, you're paying for lunch, it seems. Just kidding. I'm paying for lunch because you're money is my money, okay? He's like, wow, you're rubbing it in my face. I don't want to high five you for that. He's like, you will high five me. You will high five me right now or you will not get paid this month.
- [29:19]
Ben Mandelker
It. Look at that, Talia. I just got a high five from a low five. So did they call you. What did they call you? No, high five. What did they call you? Mid. Mid. Is this what you are, Charlie?
- [29:32]
Ronnie Karam
Would you like to do a high four instead of a high five since you are four floors higher than what.
- [29:36]
Ben Mandelker
We actually lived on? I give high fours to your grandmother because I took her index finger. It's hilarious.
- [29:43]
Ronnie Karam
Do you know where Santa Claus lives? The 32nd floor. Because it's not real.
- [29:47]
Ben Mandelker
We never live there.
- [29:48]
Ronnie Karam
Figment of your imagination, you stupid person.
- [29:51]
Ben Mandelker
So then we go to Ava on the phone with her dad, and she's like, dad, what's happening with the golf tournament? We're gonna invite my friend Brooks and Charlie. Okay, but, like, I don't know about. Charlie's getting on my last nerve of. Is Ava on benzos? I think she's too young for benzos.
- [30:09]
Ronnie Karam
Listen, Ava's been through a lot. She had to shoot scenes with Diana Jenkins, so, you know, I'm gonna give her some grace. She's like, this reality TV game is not for the week. So Ava's like, my dad definitely wants to know what's going on in my life. And honestly, it's so fun giving tea to someone who is sat.
- [30:29]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And he loves it. So we get clips of him being like, so what's going on with them? And what's going on with them? Oh, really? Why is she saying that? And her dad's a big gossip, which I love. So she talks about the Riley and Charlie situation, and he's like, wait a minute, Does. Does he have a mom? And she's like, yeah. And he's like, does he like women? Does he hate women? And she's like, no. I mean, I think he likes women because he needs to understand why he speaks to women like that if he doesn't hate them. And she's like, that's not a terrible point, I guess, dad. He's like, yes. Nailed it. Do me a favor. If you see any tax things in the mail, just throw them away.
- [31:08]
Ronnie Karam
So then we cut to Georgia on the subway, because every week we have to watch someone on the subway. And usually it's Ariana, but this time it's Georgia. And she seems rattled also. Even though she lives. She's from New York, she just seems rattled. She also always seems like she just came running from someplace. She's always her flush in the face. So she's, like, exasperated and flush. And you. And I feel like there was like a. We see her put her hand on, like, a pole, which I felt like was included intentionally. For those who remember that she doesn't wash her hands. And so I feel like they really wanted to highlight that, like, these are the things that she's touching.
- [31:42]
Ben Mandelker
You know, one of my roommates in New York used to tell me, oh, you can touch the pole. And you don't have to worry about it because it's metal and the metal kills the germs. That's the whole point.
- [31:52]
Ronnie Karam
That's what people say, actually. Like, those, like, germ killing metal. But how long does it take to kill the germs? That's my question.
- [31:59]
Ben Mandelker
And how strong is it? Because those are some heavy germs on the subway.
- [32:03]
Ronnie Karam
Heavy germs. Because also don't. Also don't forget about all the germs that. That Georgia is depositing on that metal as well. I mean, that's gonna take a. It's gonna take a little 45 minutes.
- [32:13]
Ben Mandelker
To work through it. Some metals, particularly copper and its alloys, have demonstrated anti microbial properties, meaning they can effectively kill germs, including bacteria and viruses. Okay, why doesn't the tube make hand pools out of stealth self sterilizing metals? You guys, there's like a whole subculture about this. Get into it. So Georgia, who's always bragging about, like, she's the real New Yorker, she's like, yeah, well, Carrie Bradshaw once said. I don't think real New Yorkers ever say that, do they?
- [32:46]
Ronnie Karam
No, they don't. They don't. They definitely do not.
- [32:49]
Ben Mandelker
I don't think so. I think that's embarrassing to say. But she's like, carrie, Rachel once said, and listen, I quote the classics. So she said, like, in New York, you always look for a job, an apartment, or a boyfriend. And, like, I've been looking for all three, more than not.
- [33:08]
Ronnie Karam
You know what? I know Carrie Bradshaw may have said this, and I know that Carrie Bradshaw's had many great bonmos. I don't think this is such a unique concept to be looking for a job, an apartment, or a boyfriend at any given moment. I feel like that's like a lot of people in life. But that's fine. We'll let Carrie Bradshaw have it. And congrats, Georgia, for a very unoriginal reference point.
- [33:26]
Ben Mandelker
So she said to Carrie Bradshaw, have you seen When Harry Met Sally?
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Ronnie Karam
I couldn't help but wonder if you're looking. If you're not looking for an apartment or a job, do you already have a boyfriend then or are you in search for one? That's very bad. Carrie Bradshaw. That would not get published by the.
- [33:43]
Ben Mandelker
Post, by the way. I want to brag about something, so I cut my hand cutting a bagel because I'm an idiot. And it was a really deep cut. But also I was eating bagels, which I feel kind of guilty about. But anyway, it was a really deep cut. Look at my finger. Look at this. I didn't have bandaids.
- [33:59]
Ronnie Karam
What?
- [34:00]
Ben Mandelker
So I got a paper towel and I folded up the paper towel, and then I used a Velcro cord tie and I made it into a band aid.
- [34:10]
Ronnie Karam
Are you okay? No luck.
- [34:13]
Ben Mandelker
I'm dying.
- [34:14]
Ronnie Karam
Oh, wow.
- [34:15]
Ben Mandelker
It's big. I woke up and it started bleeding again. It's like, super deep.
- [34:19]
Ronnie Karam
It was yesterday.
- [34:20]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
- [34:21]
Ronnie Karam
If you.
- [34:21]
Ben Mandelker
I might want to get like a.
- [34:23]
Ronnie Karam
Maybe go to, like, maybe get like, a little stitchy stitch on that.
- [34:26]
Ben Mandelker
No, no. Oh, I'm not gonna go get a stitch on it. They'll make me remortgage my house to do that. Medical community. Just watch us all start dropping dead. Because we can't pay your stupid bills. I'm gonna do the.
- [34:39]
Ronnie Karam
I'm gonna do the flight attendant thing. I'm gonna say if there's anyone in LA who is a surgeon on this flight, could you please go to Ronnie's house and just stitch up his finger, please, a little bit? Because right now waiting.
- [34:54]
Ben Mandelker
Oh, my God. How did you question my Velcro? This is how they had.
- [35:02]
Ronnie Karam
Also.
- [35:03]
Ben Mandelker
I learned this from the nick.
- [35:05]
Ronnie Karam
Would. Would you be open to getting band aids?
- [35:10]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, but you know what? They're locked behind fucking. They're locked behind a thing. And I didn't want to wait in line for the guy to come get me.
- [35:16]
Ronnie Karam
Can you actually. I really want to know. So what. So what happened with the bagel? How are you cutting it? What happened?
- [35:21]
Ben Mandelker
I was holding the bagel like this and it had. It was one of those pre cut ones, but then the middle is still dough, so you have to cut through the middle part of the dough. And I got a new knife and sharpened it and it just went through really fast. I was, you know, I'm used to my dull ass knife and I was like, bam. And I just chopped right through my finger.
- [35:37]
Ronnie Karam
Were you holding it like this? Like, like this? Where? Like, like, like that and then you cut through like was. Like that?
- [35:43]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I was holding. It was my fault. I was holding it the wrong way. I was holding it like the most idiotic. I was this. And cutting it like this. And then I chopped in my finger here. I mean, I know better. Do I better? No, but I know better.
- [35:56]
Ronnie Karam
Well, you don't want to get that thing infected.
- [35:59]
Ben Mandelker
Well, so put some.
- [36:00]
Ronnie Karam
I want to get it on it.
- [36:01]
Ben Mandelker
It's. It'll be worth it for free. My free band aid. Like, maybe if it gets infected and I have to get surgery, insurance will cover it and I can get like smaller finger surgery. You know, they can give me like cute, cute non ham handed fingers like these. You know, I can get like Paige Desorbo, real skinny fingers. But the point is, Georgia loves Carrie Bradshaw, okay? So now she's with a guy named Omar who is. I'm not sure where the men. Where the women on the show are finding these men. I don't. I'm shocked that she's dating this guy.
- [36:37]
Ronnie Karam
I know where we will find this man.
- [36:40]
Ben Mandelker
Where?
- [36:40]
Ronnie Karam
In jail sometime. Because this guy's going to jail. I'm telling you this right now. He's a con artist. We've seen, we've seen Wolf of Wall Street. We know these guys. He's a Crypto. He's a crypto wolf of Wall street, bro. I'm telling you this right now. This guy is going to jail. He's a con artist. He owes money. He's. I don't know this guy. Run, Georgia, run.
- [37:01]
Ben Mandelker
Well, she likes him because he has a lot of crypto, and he's investing in her thing. So he. She's. She's like, yeah. Omar and I have been hanging out a lot. Like, we've been, like, going on, like, dates. Because, like, you know, when I was a senior in college, this random dude was like, if you want to throw a party, I'd invest in it. And, like, it went amazing, and I made a ton of money. So, like, I'm addicted to this, you know? So now I'm dating another guy who wants to invest in parties. It's, like, my thing.
- [37:29]
Ronnie Karam
Omar runs a crypto startup company, and I've never dated someone who wears a suit. Honestly, it's been, like, tough because Omar is on a completely different lifestyle. Okay. You ever see Glengarry Glen Ross? Yeah, he's actually in Glengarry Glen Ross. Glenn Omar right now, and it's, like, so amazing. And he's, like, waking up at, like, five in the morning, an hour or two after I go to bed. But, like, Omar is a genius. As you can tell by his cramped little office with scrolls scrolling all over the whiteboard walls. Like, this guy is smart, and he's always been interested in opening, like, a physical space. You know? I'm like, watch Carl Radke show up at Omar's door. So I've got this good guy clause. I thought you might want to invest in it.
- [38:11]
Ben Mandelker
I'm really into physical spaces. Hey, Omar, you into brick and mortar? Me too. Like, I'm really going against the grain of my past relationship that is still traumatizing me to this very day. But, like, you know what? I believe in brick and mortar. I believe in, like, touching things and feeling them. Not hard things. Not our thing. So just keep it soft, Omar. Keep it soft. Crypto.
- [38:34]
Ronnie Karam
So we do find out a little bit about Omar. He was inspired to get into his rat race, quite literally by ratatouille. And George was like, oh, wow, have you seen Harry Met Sally? So George was like, you know, after years of doing events for people, I'm starting my own club, and Omar is coming in, and he's gonna invest and find other investors as well.
- [38:54]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. So I don't. I don't know that I believe in Omar. He seems very sweet. He's very cute. He's kind of a cute little schlub in a cheap suit, but he's sitting in his office, it's covered in whiteboards, and there's things scrawled. And it's not just covered in whiteboards, the walls are whiteboard. So everywhere it looks like a crazy person's house, you know? And it's just random things. Yeah, it's just like kind of random equations. Listen, I'm into crypto kind of lightly. I have been for a long time. I don't, I don't know what he's doing. I was at that and I was like, I don't, I don't really think this is what that is. At least I haven't experienced that side of it.
- [39:31]
Ronnie Karam
It feels like low Silicon Valley, right? Like, you know, like the startup culture where it's like we're gonna like disrupt what it means to be in an office. If you have an idea, just like write it on the whiteboard. And it feels like that's what they've been doing, but to no effect. Like they just do it to feel like they're being, you know, the next Steve Jobs or something like that. But they're just like these guys in ill fitting suits, but they're like somewhere in like the garment district. Yeah, yeah.
- [39:54]
Ben Mandelker
And you know, it's like when you go to a mentally unstable friend. Mentally unstable friend's house. I'm so sorry, by the way, if anybody is that mentally unstable friend, but you know, it's you. And they put those little stickies everywhere. They'll say, you're having a great day, you're a good person. Believe in yourself. You're good enough. Like everywhere you turn. Like, they can't get a fucking cracker out of the pantry without it saying like, oh my God, you're good enough for this cracker. Think again. Or like, if you can see it, you can eat it, put it away, you know, like that. They're always crazy. There's not like a mentally stable person that does that. I'm sorry. And that's what it reminds me of. It reminds me of Jim Carrey in that movie where he keeps seeing the number seven everywhere. Was it seven? 27?
- [40:33]
Ronnie Karam
I think that, I think the movie is called the number seven or something. Or the number, like 23 or something.
- [40:37]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, something like that.
- [40:38]
Ronnie Karam
I'm still thinking about who's life Picasso overlapped with, because I'm pretty sure. Sure.
- [40:43]
Ben Mandelker
I'll tell you whose life it didn't overlap with. Whoever invented Jergens. Okay, so he was Very dry.
- [40:52]
Ronnie Karam
It didn't. It didn't overlap with an alligator, I'll tell you that much. Stupid alligator getting that free lotion. Why do they always touch that alligator in the commercial anyway, by the way? What's the point?
- [41:03]
Ben Mandelker
They want to die. It's like those videos you see on Facebook of people, like, slowing down by grizzly bears. Like, hey, let's take a selfie with the grizzly bear. And then you just see the grizzly bear's hand swipe around, and then the video ends.
- [41:14]
Ronnie Karam
Who at the advertising agency said, okay to sell Jergens? Here's what we should do. Let's have a model moisturize an alligator. Sold. Great job, Omar.
- [41:27]
Ben Mandelker
My favorite was when people used to write dry on their skin.
- [41:31]
Ronnie Karam
Oh, yeah. You know what was the worst? I think this actually has nothing to do with skincare. But now moving on to nail care. Remember, like, that Vaseline commercial that was, like, showed, like, a lady opening up a soda and, like, with her fingernail, and the. The soundtrack would go, and then the nail would break. Do you remember this? Like, she wasn't using Vaseline. Do you remember that?
- [41:52]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. No, I don't remember that. And how does Vaseline make your nails stronger? Does it?
- [41:57]
Ronnie Karam
I think it just. I think it's not so much stronger. Maybe it, like, makes them less brittle so they can bend and not break when you're opening up as a soda with a tag.
- [42:05]
Ben Mandelker
Oh, that sounds painful.
- [42:06]
Ronnie Karam
Something Picasso could have learned.
- [42:09]
Ben Mandelker
You should have put that on your ear, Picasso.
- [42:14]
Ronnie Karam
So just in general has nothing to do with the Van Gogh who cut his ear off? Just in general. Just put it on your ear, Picasso.
- [42:22]
Ben Mandelker
You know what? Now that we're talking about it, maybe it was the Van Gogh interactive because he lost his ear.
- [42:28]
Ronnie Karam
He did.
- [42:30]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I remember. Who. Whoever the immersive was about lost their ear. So who was that? That was Van.
- [42:36]
Ronnie Karam
That would be Van Gogh.
- [42:37]
Ben Mandelker
Did Van Gogh die?
- [42:40]
Ronnie Karam
Be famous.
- [42:44]
Ben Mandelker
We have to look at it again.
- [42:45]
Ronnie Karam
It was Charlie Chaplin who overlapped.
- [42:47]
Ben Mandelker
Listen. No, Vincent Van Gogh was not famous during his lifetime. Oh, and this is Van Gogh. I'm talking about Van Gogh. Yeah, he's the one with the bad. The bad dry skin.
- [42:56]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
- [42:58]
Ben Mandelker
Sorry. Picasso. Wow, I really put Picasso through it today. Picasso, I'm sure you were hot. Who knows? I don't. I don't know you. You.
- [43:04]
Ronnie Karam
Van Gogh. He was a real dick. He was a real dick. Moving up to getting into fights with Dea. What a dick.
- [43:14]
Ben Mandelker
Okay, so, God, I really apologize to Picasso. That was. That was harsh. But Van Gogh get it together. You drive faithful.
- [43:22]
Ronnie Karam
Sounds like Ronnie. Ronnie, don't be too sad. Otherwise you yourself may wind up in your own blue period Picasso Joke. Okay, so Georgia.
- [43:33]
Ben Mandelker
Am I.
- [43:36]
Ronnie Karam
Munch? That's Edvard Munch. I just went to the Edvard Munch Museum. Ronnie I went to a museum dedicated to Edvard Munch.
- [43:43]
Ben Mandelker
I loved his show. He was a great detective. Tony Shalhoub played him.
- [43:47]
Ronnie Karam
Who would have thought they would have an entire museum for Tony Shalhoub? It was so wonderful.
- [43:51]
Ben Mandelker
Just solving crimes with banana peels.
- [43:55]
Ronnie Karam
The wing that was dedicated to wings. It was a meta moment for my lifetime.
- [44:07]
Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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- [44:26]
Ben Mandelker
The best part? Everything with Quint's is half the cost of similar brands.
- [44:30]
Ronnie Karam
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- [44:36]
Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
I have to say I'm a big, big fan of Quince and I have actually put in an order for a Flowknit Breeze performance pocket tee that I'm very excited to rock around LA this summer.
- [44:55]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, we both love Quince. We wear it all the time. I even use quints to buy stuff for my father because he's trying to get more fashionable and quints is the way to do it.
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
And Riley, I have a question. No, no. Well, I don't know if it was. I don't know if it was skipped here, but, like, I don't know if we come back to it or not, but if. In case we don't come back to it, I loved when Georgia was talking about the club that she wants to open, and he was like, you want to whiteboard it? She's like, yeah, you know, we'll come back to it. I think. I think it's a whole other story.
- [46:22]
Ben Mandelker
Oh, yeah, that's coming up still. Yeah. So Ariana and Riley are together, and they're just having drinks, you know, And Ariana's like, oh, my God. It took us, like, an hour and 30 minutes to get home from Jersey because of all the bullshit that was going on. That was crazy. And then we see the bus ride back home, and Brooks is like, you know what I was gonna do? I was gonna call Charlie and be like, what are you doing? You know what? I'm gonna call Charlie right now and be like, what are you doing? You guys, I dialed Charlie right now. Because I'm gonna say, what are you doing? You guys, Charlie's picking up the phone right now. Charlie, right now. I'm on the phone with you going, what are you doing?
- [47:00]
Ronnie Karam
He's like, well, I'm just going through some files to make sure that we didn't actually live on the 32nd floor. Because I could have sworn we did. Like, okay, well, you're on speaker. Okay, well, thanks. Good warning. So Riley's like, by the way, if something hurts my feelings, you have to let have these conversations. Like, can I wait until tomorrow? My dad is, like, throwing paper balls at my head right now.
- [47:24]
Ben Mandelker
And David's like, oh, my God. His voice is, like, pissing me off right now. Just give me the phone. And Riley just hangs up the phone. So then Riley and Ariane back to them. Ariana's like, I can't even imagine.
- [47:41]
Ronnie Karam
Yeah, yeah, he's too grown and too old to, like, not put in the work to be better. I mean, the way we were raised shapes us, and we're forced to be this type of person. But as we grow, it's our job to change that and work on things that don't make us better. So it's clear that the way Charlie was raised is that he was not given a bed that was on a little stage to make it seem like you're on American Idol. But I was raised that way, so I don't know. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
- [48:08]
Ben Mandelker
So then we go to Ariana and Riley in the confessional together, talking about how their moms are housewives and they can handle their own. And then we see flashbacks to Kim and Candy fighting, and Ariana's like, yeah, if we need to, like, throw that wine glass or, like, shift that wig, we'll do it.
- [48:27]
Ronnie Karam
And so then we now we go over to Charlie and Dylan in their apartment, and as we see that Charlie is 45 minutes late to his dad's barbecue. So Anwar calls him up, he's like. He's like, how far are you away from barbecue? Okay. He's like, I think we're 45 minutes late. No, you're 47 minutes late. I bet you. I bet you 100 that you're 47, not 45 minutes late. Okay, dad, we're just about to leave, okay? He's like, you're about to leave? It takes an hour and a half to get here. Dad, come on. Don't me. Don't take this out on me. You are slow, slow person with bad body. Unlike your roommate. Be faster.
- [49:04]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, don't take this out on me. You haven't even left the house and you're 45 minutes late already. Stupid. This is the people like this make me crave. Like, my dad's a dick. Like, he calls me out for being three hours late to his house for a party that he's throwing for my friends, who he doesn't even fucking know. What an asshole. You need to be evicted, sir. I don't think there are squatter laws in New York City, are there?
- [49:27]
Ronnie Karam
There? I don't know. But I think basically Anwar is sitting there with a camera crew from Bravo treading dirt through his kitchen. And he's like, how much longer do I have to have poor people in my kitchen? Hurry up. Get here.
- [49:43]
Ben Mandelker
So now Ariana and Hudson are moving into their new place. And she's like, oh, my God, Thank. I'm here. Like, oh, my God, this is crazy. And Hudson's like, yeah, yeah, thank. She goes, oh, no. I was going to say, thank God. Okay? And she goes, let's say it at the same time. And he says, thank you, Lord. And she says, thank you, Jesus. And like, oh, my God, we need to practice this again.
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Ronnie Karam
This is so When Harry Met Sally. So, Ariana, they're. They're. They've they now have, like, way exceeded their budget. And by their budget, I mean Ariana's budget, because Hudson's fine, because he's like, fried chicken heir. So this is like, it was just a matter of time before they wound up here before she's like, okay, could you just, like, pay for this? This. Because I don't have a job, and I am the heir to a cigarette stub for my mother, so could you.
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Ben Mandelker
She's such a sucker, too. It's 10 grand a month, plus they had to pay an $18,000 broker fee. Oh, my God. Does anybody else know how to search? No broker fee. I mean, what the hell?
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Ronnie Karam
That's crazy. A broker fee. I feel like that's wild. 18,000? Is it. Is that broker fee every single month?
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Ben Mandelker
I guess it's for the year of rent. Right? Right. Because if it's 15% broker fee, if it's $10,000 a month. Okay, I'm not going to start doing math. I feel like the whiteboard guy. I'm not going to do it.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
$12,000. Wait, that would be.
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Ronnie Karam
You want to take it to whiteboard?
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Ben Mandelker
$20,000 times 15 sets. 10. That's six. That's 021008. That's $18,000, isn't it? Is that what she paid? She paid 18,000. I did the math. You did it for a whole year? It's for a whole year. Wow. What a sucker.
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
I can't believe I just did math. Right. Even though the answer was right in front of me. So then she. He drops his sunglasses and she steps on them. She's like, oh, my God, those were $575. My mom spends those on scratch off cards every Wednesday night. Oh, I just basically took scratch offs off my mom's table. What are the children gonna eat?
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Ronnie Karam
So then. So then we go to Georgia, Charlie and Dylan and Brooks, and they are headed to Long island. And Brooks is in the way back, which is funny. He's like, I'm happy back here. It's like I'm being in my mother's iconic womb icon. And so George is like, guys, guys, guys, we should play Summertime Sadness because it's summer and we might have some sadness. I also brought a little whiteboard, so if we want to, like, brainstorm some other song ideas, we can do it.
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Ben Mandelker
And Brooke says, what do you do when you wake up feeling not good? She's like, oh, like, I always wake up with, like, a little anxiety. But, like, I think that that's just hormonal. But, like, I swear to God, I think every day is a good day. Like, every day is, like, a good one. And Charlie's like, oh, so you just, like, don't need therapy, but other people do? Is that it?
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Ronnie Karam
Yeah, well, I mean, I was in therapy since, like, age five. And he's like, for what? Like, what do you mean, for what? If you're in therapy, you're in therapy because you need therapy. It's just. That's how it is. She goes, well, my dad died when I was young, and before that, he was a little out of control. So she tells this really sad story about how her dad, her parents, or both lawyers, and they had this law referral company, but then, like, 911 really affected him, and he got, like, PTSD. She doesn't really elaborate. Like, was he close to it or was. Did he know people in it? But he was just really affected, and he went off the rails and he moved upstate and he went. He wound up dying up there. So there's, like, a lot to fill in the gaps with that story, and there's a lot of things to imply, but it sounds like it really was. Was not a good trajectory. Obviously, it was not a good trajectory for him. So it's really sad. And then she says that she started acting out because of it, and then she was put into therapy, and then she saw a therapist on and off until recently, until about a year ago. So I guess she's just not in therapy anymore.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, you know, she's like, it worked. So, like, I'm done. So Charlie's like, well, I was in and out of therapy through high school because, like, my dad, like, my beef with my dad, like, we basically had to use therapists as mediators, so we'd go together and try to, like, communicate effectively, whatever.
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Ronnie Karam
So what you're trying to tell me is that your dad was actually spending money out of his own pockets. That way he could try to connect with his son. And you were being a. The entire time. That's what I'm.
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Ben Mandelker
So then Ariana tells Hudson she broke the sunglasses. And he's like, like, who cares? I can get them down the street. Like, no big deal.
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Ronnie Karam
They sell these at the bodega, right?
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Ben Mandelker
He's like, guess what? Not a lot of people have heard of these sunglasses. But everybody's heard of fried chicken. I win. So basically, I'm going to wear fried chicken on my eyes. It's going to be fine.
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Ronnie Karam
Speaking of which, she's like, okay, let's call my mom. So her mom answers with fried chicken on her eyes.
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Ben Mandelker
She's like, hello, I can't see you. Mom gets off of your eyes. Sorry, I was just worried about the bags.
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Ronnie Karam
You know that Kim's like, cell phone carrier is something like fried chicken wireless? She's like, yeah, it's a new startup.
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Ben Mandelker
She just stole the plug in phone from the Zaxby's counter. It's like, hold on, let me plug it in. Okay, go ahead, honey.
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Ronnie Karam
Hey you guys. Oh, you guys are drinking my wine, guys. And Ariana's like, yeah mom, in honor of you, I'm drinking wine. Wine that for some reason we still have. It's so this, this wine bottle is an honor of you mother. As in we thought we got rid of it a long time ago and yet it seems to always be around and never goes away. Yep.
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Ben Mandelker
This wine bottle, you get halfway through it and then the government comes to take it back.
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Ronnie Karam
It's weird. This wine bottle is actually somehow like having a romantic moment with Chet Hanks. I didn't know that could happen. Yeah, well, I'm so proud of you. It just makes me want to cry. Makes me want to cry. I actually don't cry because you know, you guys are just doing so good for yourself. You're in New York and I think every little girl in the world dreams of getting to New York and being able to find a rich guy that can follow to the south. And I'm just so happy. Just live in the moment. Appreciate every second for real. And you know, if you want to send me a few thou, that's okay. 2 Hudson. It better be a ring now. Next baby for me. Okay. Cuz the ring does mean a thing for me. Okay, thanks, bye.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, so then we go over to Charlie and everybody arriving at Anas, he's like, oh, hello. Took you long enough, loser boy. He's like, don't blame me, dad. God, don't blame me. I was just rolling 30 joints in my house that smells like dirty common socks. Sorry. Don't blame me. It's somebody else's fault.
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Ronnie Karam
He's like, yeah, I think it's definitely an intimate experience when your friends are comingling with you, your family or your parents. So everyone says hi. And Brooks is like, wow. Yeah, it's like especially intimate when like my father is speaking to one of them because I'm wondering like, what are they talking about? And like how's it going? And like, what's he judging me as a result of that conversation? Where's my mom right now? She's such an icon. I live.
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Ben Mandelker
So they come in and say hi to the dad and stuff. And they're trying to figure out they're on the water, but they're like, like, what's across the water? And nobody knows the geography of it.
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Ronnie Karam
Derek Bird.
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Ben Mandelker
Oh, my God, what is that? And George is like, is that like New York City? He goes, no, it's like Jersey City. Just, no, that's not right, because we can't see Manhattan. He's like, maybe it's Boston. I don't know.
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Ronnie Karam
They are so insular that they can't even conceive of, like, the Long Island Sound. And what might be across from it, like, is that Idaho? So then Taylor's daughter comes out. Her name is Danielle. She brings out some wine. And then Anwar is like, hey, by the way, who's more handsome? By the way, who's more handsome, me or Charlie? Me or my son? Competition starts now. Okay. And Charlie's like, you guys can just say him, because I just don't want to be in a bad mood for the rest of the day. And they're like, yeah, we were going to say him anyway.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, well, we were going to tell him the truth, which is him, him. So don't worry. Worked out. So Brooks is polite and says, like, thanks so much for cooking for us. He's like, oh, did you party? Did you party last night? Tell me about it. He's like, no, I was at a birthday dinner, which I guess was a party, but it was, like, partying. Partying. I wasn't, like, doing coke with my dad again, if that's what you're asking. Is that what you're asking? I'm really insecure right now.
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Ronnie Karam
Charlie. Did you go to birthday dinner? Were you not invited? You probably weren't invited, right? Because you're probably still trying to figure out if we lived on the 32nd floor or. You're so stupid and less attractive than me, aren't you?
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Ben Mandelker
It's hard to invite old losers to parties when you've achieved nothing, when you're trying to celebrate becoming a year older and you're still young and have a future ahead of you. So what is it like having friends who still have a future? Don't tell Charlie about them, please.
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Ronnie Karam
What's it like being friends with someone who gets elevator trivia wrong?
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Ben Mandelker
So it's pretty crazy that Charlie didn't even know the elevator, like, his floor number of his apartment. I know that, Rich. Like, I mean, do people carry you into the apartment? Have you never pressed the button?
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Ronnie Karam
Like, maybe. Actually, I Have a theory. So apparently, like, the question, it's. It was such a funny question they asked this person because it's like, what is the floor number? That like, after that, after which all the floors just become penthouses. So maybe Charlie was thinking, like, it's technically the 32nd floor because there was four. Four stories of. Of penthouses below us. But because, but actual, based on the numbers of the elevator is 28. Like, maybe there's a world in which they both are right.
- [59:48]
Ben Mandelker
What's wrong with you? Why are you trying to empathize with Charlie? You're like, guys, let's take a moment and try and see a world where Charlie could be right in this.
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Ronnie Karam
I don't know why I did that. He's just sheltered and awful. There's no reason. I was just trying to imagine a world in which someone could somehow not know the floor that they actually live on. It was not so much defending him. I was like, is there a way that someone could really bend their brain in that way? And that's the only way I could conceive of it is if he was counting literal floor, not elevator stops.
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Ben Mandelker
I think Charlie just was like, walked into the elevator and there's someone there to press a button and he just never noticed, you know, it was just like whatever. He just got in. He doesn't pay attention to anything.
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Ronnie Karam
I like that. You gal Gadot me. Why you do that? Why you do that?
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Ben Mandelker
That's the best line from Wonder Woman. Why you do that?
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Ronnie Karam
Why you do that?
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Ben Mandelker
Hello there. This is a two part recap. Okay, this is. That's the end of part one. So thank you so much for listening to this. Just come back a little later for part two.
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Ronnie Karam
Watch what crap. INS would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King.
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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
She can run my country. It's Angie McGovern.
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
Get on the right foot with Chrissy Offutt. We never miss her call. It's diane Call Aaron McNicholas.
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
She's our kind of mess. It's Jennifer Messer. Sipped some scotch with Jessica Trotch.
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Ronnie Karam
She's our favorite streamer. Caroline Peacock, she gets an A.
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Ben Mandelker
It's Kelly B. Kristen the Piston Anderson. Get a bee in your bonnet with Lacey B. Que sera, sera Whatever will be Will Lauren Sills be bringing the funk?
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Ronnie Karam
It's Leslie Plunkett.
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Ben Mandelker
She gets a name from us It's Lindsey D. Let's give a Kisserino to Lisa Leno. Fresh as a daisy. It's Maisie McHenry we love her on the rocks It's Melissa Cox. Megan Berg. You can't have a burger without the.
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Ronnie Karam
Berg this is Living with Michelle Vivian.
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Ben Mandelker
I love a y' all. Olivia Williamson. Tastier than Flanderson. It's Rachel Manderson.
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Ronnie Karam
She sure is swell It's Raquel.
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Ben Mandelker
Yes, we canna.
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Ronnie Karam
It's Savannah Cast a spell with Shannon Spellman. Let's share with Sharon Eldridge the Bay.
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Ben Mandelker
Area and our super premium sponsors She's VVIP It's Amanda V. Can't lose when you're with Amy Baldwin.
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Ronnie Karam
Somebody gets get us 10cc's of Betsy.
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Ben Mandelker
MD we're taking the gold with Brenda.
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Ronnie Karam
Silva let's get real with Caitlin o'.
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Ben Mandelker
Neal don't get salty with Christine Pepper can't have a meal without the Emily sides Let's go into the woods with.
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Ronnie Karam
Guy Tubbs who, what, why, where?
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Ben Mandelker
And Gwen Pentland it's our queen It's.
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Ronnie Karam
Queen Laifa Nobody holds a candle to Jamie Kendall Hail the cork master the master of the cork Jennifer for Corcoran we got our wish It's Jen Plish she's not harsh She's Jill Hirsch She's a little bit loony Junie Knock, knock, knocking on Katie Manock's door My Favorite Murdo Karen McMurdo we love him madly It's Kyle Pod Shadley in the study with a candlestick It's Leslie Peacock we're ride or die for Lisa Ryder Baron She's a whiz It's Liz Sarthy Always killing it it's low alkaline Lonnie the.
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Ben Mandelker
Incredible edible Matthew Sisters she eases our woes it's Melissa St. Rose we're on the floor with Molly Dorset There's a chance of meatballs It's Rebecca Cloud she's.
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Ronnie Karam
The queen bee It's Sarah Lemke we.
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Ben Mandelker
Cannot tell a lie It's Sarah tell.
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Ronnie Karam
Of son Shannon out of a can and Anthony come on Check your body, baby do the Sydney Congdon let's take off with Tamla Plain it's always a.
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Ben Mandelker
Good time when you're watching Wasting time with Bravo she ain't no shrinking violet Coutar we love you guys if you like watch what crappens. You can listen ad free right now by joining Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Before you go, tell us about yourself by filling out a short survey@wondery.com survey.
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Ronnie Karam
We acting bad bad bad bad.
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Ben Mandelker
We ain't trying to hurt nobody.
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Ronnie Karam
For decades he was untouchable. I've gone from Harlem to Hollywood, but now it's all coming undone. Sean Combs, the mogul as we know it is over. He will never be that person again even if he's found not guilty of these charges. I'm Jesse Weber, host of Law and the Rise and Fall of Diddy the Federal Trial, a front row seat to the biggest trial in entertainment history history. Sex trafficking, racketeering, prostitution, allegations by federal prosecutors that span decades and witnesses who are finally speaking out. The spotlight is harsher, the stakes are higher, and for Diddy, there may be no second chances. You can listen to the Rise and Fall of Diddy the Federal Trial exclusively with Wondery Plus. Join Wondery in the Wondery app, Spotify or Apple Podcasts Right now Today is.
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Ben Mandelker
The worst day of Abby's life. The 17 year old cradles her newborn son in her arms. They all saw how much I loved him. They didn't have to take him from me. Between 1945 and the early 1970s, families shipped their pregnant teenage daughters to maternity homes and forced them to secretly place their babies for adoption in hidden corners across America. It's still happening. My parents had me locked up in the godparent home against my will.
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Ronnie Karam
They worked with them to manipulate me and to steal my son away from me.
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Ben Mandelker
The godparent home is the brainchild of controversial preacher Jerry Falwell, the father of the modern evangelical right and the founder of Liberty University, where power powerful men, emboldened by their faith determine who gets to be a parent and who must give their child away. Follow Liberty Lost on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts.