#2912 PumpRules S6E7: It’s Not About the Pasta Live From Detroit

Summary

Watch What Crappens - Episode #2912: PumpRules S6E7: It’s Not About the Pasta Live From Detroit

Hosted by Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam, Episode #2912 of Watch What Crappens dives deep into the latest happenings of Bravo's beloved reality series, Vanderpump Rules. Recorded live from Detroit on July 8, 2025, Ben and Ronnie provide their signature blend of praise, ridicule, and insightful commentary on the drama unfolding in Season 6, Episode 7, titled "It’s Not About the Pasta."

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Welcome to Detroit

[03:10] Ronnie Karam:
"Almost took a tumble there. Hello, Detroit. So good to see you guys again. And here for Vanderpump Rules."

Ben and Ronnie kick off the episode by welcoming their Detroit audience and setting the stage for an in-depth discussion of the latest Vanderpump Rules episode. They emphasize the resilience and energy of Detroiters, drawing parallels to the tenacity of characters like Jax and Kristen from the show.

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Vanderpump Rules Season 6, Episode 7 Breakdown

Iconic Moments and Character Dynamics

[17:08] Ben Mandelker:
"We chose this episode because obviously it has an iconic scene. What I was not expecting rewatching it is that it was almost one of the most perfect episodes of anything to air on Bravo."

The hosts express their admiration for the episode, highlighting its standout moments and character developments. They discuss Kristen’s heartfelt gift moment and the introduction of Kelsey Patel, the Reiki master, noting how these elements add depth to the show's narrative.

[26:15] Ben Mandelker:
"So this episode had to offer, it was the introduction of Kelsey Patel, Reiki master."

Ronnie shares her observations on Jax's struggles with emotions and his journey towards self-improvement, emphasizing his poor choices and the impact on his relationships.

Key Plot Points and Drama Unfolds

[30:46] Ronnie Karam:
"Guys, there's just, like, a lot of things going on with me right now, you know? It's just like, so much going on, you know?"

The duo delve into the intricate web of relationships and conflicts among the cast members. They dissect Jax's admission of being selfish and his tumultuous relationship with Britney, exploring the emotional turmoil and trust issues that drive the show's drama.

[44:23] Ben Mandelker:
"And Kristen's like, but he acted so cold. And Stassi's like, I mean, Jax knows exactly what he's doing, okay?"

They critique the manipulative behaviors exhibited by characters like Stassi, who attempts to control and influence others through deceptive means. The discussion highlights the recurring theme of betrayal and the challenges of maintaining authentic relationships amidst chaos.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

Throughout the episode, Ben and Ronnie pepper their analysis with humorous and sharp-witted quotes from the transcript, adding an engaging and entertaining layer to their discussion.

[07:23] Ronnie Karam:
"Poor guy. So this is Jax's quote. Jax, do you need to squash beef with anybody? You know, to be honest with you, I'm not really worried about anybody else right now."

[12:24] Ben Mandelker:
"It's a great metaphor for Jax and Britney, though. Just going around and around, really. With nowhere in sight and no end."

[55:02] Ronnie Karam:
"What's the pasta? What are you going on about the pasta. Stop with the pasta. It's not about the pasta."

These quotes encapsulate the essence of the episode's discussions, reflecting the hosts' ability to capture pivotal moments with concise and impactful statements.

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Insights and Conclusions

[52:10] Ben Mandelker:
"Yeah, but no, because you don't, like, earn brownie points if you drive on the wrong side of the road and someone says you're gonna get hit by a car and then you get hit by a car. It's like the most obvious call to make. Yeah, everything here is so obvious."

Ben and Ronnie conclude their analysis by reflecting on the predictability and inevitability of certain plot developments within the show. They emphasize how the characters' actions often lead to foreseeable outcomes, underscoring the cyclical nature of reality TV drama.

[87:26] Ben Mandelker:
"So, Sheena. I just want to remind everyone that it's very important to Sheena that everyone stop talking about Rob."

In their final thoughts, the hosts advocate for focusing on personal growth and authentic relationships rather than succumbing to the relentless cycle of gossip and betrayal that characterizes Vanderpump Rules.

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Final Takeaways

Episode #2912 of Watch What Crappens offers a comprehensive and entertaining breakdown of Vanderpump Rules Season 6, Episode 7. Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam skillfully navigate the intricate dynamics of the show, providing insightful commentary while maintaining their trademark humor. For fans of Bravo reality TV and those seeking an engaging analysis of the latest episodes, this podcast episode is a must-listen.

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[Ronnie Karam]

Almost took a tumble there. Hello, Detroit. So good to see you guys again. And here for Vanderpump Rules.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow. Oh, I can already tell it's gonna be one of those night. And you know why? So here's something that I've learned. People from Michigan are resilient, and they're strong. And the reason why I know that is because the only two people left standing are Jax and Kristen on Vanderpump rules.

[Ronnie Karam]

And also, you guys can have so much energy after eating pizza here. Jesus Christ. We got Detroited.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

We were sitting back there like, oh, Jesus. Why it is so good? So you make up that cheese, right? You guys invented your own cheese. You're like, the auto industry didn't really work out. Let's make a cheese. And now it's on. I eat it. I like it. What's it called? Like, brick.

[Ben Mandelker]

Brick cheese. Oh, brick cheese.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, that's easy. Detroit cheese. I like that you guys really stuck with your branding on that one.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's very Kristen doughty. Brick cheese cheese. Soy cheese. Brick cheese. Cheese and bricks. Soy cheese. I have to say, I literally am so happy to be here because otherwise I'd be home looking at all the annoying photos from Coachella right now. Or some people call it rochella. I mean, something's gonna happen, right? Something's gonna happen tonight, right? Every single year at Coachella, something happens. Last year, Theresa and Taylor Swift took a photo together, which I'm only now recovering from. So I guess we'll see what happens there. But I'm very excited.

[Ronnie Karam]

Coachella is too many people that I don't want to see in their underwear. In their underwear.

[Ben Mandelker]

Awful.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, just come over to my house. I do it every day. Do you want that shit?

[Ben Mandelker]

So I'm very mediocre.

[Ronnie Karam]

Music with butt crack. I do it every fucking day. Okay, I'll do it for $5.

[Ben Mandelker]

So there's actually some really cool Bravo news that I only saw happen. This is not like, gossip. It's just, like, something cool that Bravo's doing. I only saw two Hours ago. And there's someone here in the front row who's wearing a Below Deck sweatshirt. Are people here? Do people here enjoy Below Deck? But more importantly, are there people here who enjoy the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? All right, let me read you. Let me read you this. All crew. All crew little girls. Literally, it says that Below Deck down under season four just started filming with the first ever Real Housewives crossover charter featuring the full cast of Salt Lake City.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, shit.

[Ben Mandelker]

And it looks like the chief stew.

[Ronnie Karam]

Is Daisy.

[Ben Mandelker]

And the chef is Ben. This is our Coachella.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's the only Coachella we need. I don't pray a lot these days, but I'll pray for that crew.

[Ben Mandelker]

This just in. All the orcas just attacked that yacht.

[Ronnie Karam]

In other Bravo news, I thought we could look forward, you know, because tonight we're looking back, so we could look forward from the. Well, I guess it's present, so that's not really looking forward, but if you were in the past, then it would be looking forward if you're looking at the present. So Jax. Jax was on Extra tv. By the way, I love Vanderpod recaps. Do you guys ever read her on Instagram? She recaps all the podcasts so you don't have to, like, lose your brain cells over it. And now she's like, fuck it. I'm gonna recap Extra tv. I don't care. So she's doing that. So they got a clip from Jax, who I know we're all feeling a lot for right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

A lot. Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

Poor guy. So this is Jax's quote. Jax, do you need to squash beef with anybody? You know, to be honest with you, I'm not really worried about anybody else right now. You know, right now I'm. I'm worried about myself right now. You know, I'm just. I'm gonna be a little selfish right now, you know, I think I deserve to be a little. You're always fucking selfish. Right?

[Ben Mandelker]

I know.

[Ronnie Karam]

How many years later is this? And Jax is like, guys, I just need a moment to be selfish. You just dropped your baby in the pool. Did you see that Instagram? He's like, guys, this is how dads do it. Happy Father's Day. Drops his kid in the pool. His kid's like, wah. You know, drowning to death. Or whatever kids do when you drop them in the pool. I've only fantasized about it. I haven't actually done. And he's, like, taping it. And then the story ends, and people are writing back to the story, like, is the baby dead?

[Ben Mandelker]

You just horrified someone in the audience. I just looked over and someone went, oh, my God.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then Britney. I think this was a recap of her podcast, Britney, or whatever it's called now. What was it called before, like, Jackson, Brittany, happier than ever. And now it's just like, Britney, just Brittany. So a couple weeks ago, she was like, brim TWI ho. It's opening. I'm choke shotted, y'.

[Ben Mandelker]

All.

[Ronnie Karam]

We started ordering furniture. We designed it. I was like, oh, my God, those poor glue guns. Cause you know, they're sidious being glue. Random.

[Ben Mandelker]

If you were wondering why all the Michaels in Los Angeles were empty, that's why.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she came out with this statement. She's like, guys, there's something I wanted to talk about. Before it got out there, it was huge news. I know it's gonna be out all over the medias. It needs to come from me. They sold Rocco's, which was what Brits was connected to. And it's all part of the same thing. And the partner straight up sold it. They didn't tell me they were gonna sell. They didn't communicate with me. And we'd already, you know, completely decorated everything. We ordered everything. The wallpaper, the new stuff. So you ordered it or you decorated it? You sound like Jax right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Erika Jayne's gonna be at that fire sale. Wallpaper.

[Ronnie Karam]

We're gonna put in new seatings. You know, we order new chandeliers. We order everything on January 7th. So I thought that, you know, January 6th, you know, I was busy January 6th.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we started on.

[Ronnie Karam]

January 6th is a holiday.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we were having a pop up of brats at the D.C. capitol.

[Ronnie Karam]

This lady goes on. I swear to you, it's five dots. You know how the pages are little dots on Instagram. You just keep sweeping. Okay, so I think that's why I'm disappointed. And plus, okay, a paragraph later, so I'm pretty upset about it. They'd offer me to do a couple other things, you know. Another paragraph. I was just so excited about it. Another paragraph. They have offered alternative things for us to do. I was just so excited about it. Next page. I mean, I've got so many amazing projects coming. So many amazing projects coming. Next paragraph. But I want to let you guys know, it had to come for me, you know, I was just so excited about it. Brittany, stop.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's acting like she's opening up a PF Changs in Vegas. It was gonna be three bar stools and, like a picture of beer, cheese on the wall.

[Ronnie Karam]

So I think everybody should give a moment of silence for all the food inspectors in LA, because, you know, they hired like 20 extra people who are now out of work.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. To everyone who had purchased some pre sale tickets to Brits at Rocco's. The Brits x Rocco's collab. I'm sorry. They will be worth nothing. So thunder throws this morning.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, I have one question before we get into this. Where do the trams go in Detroit? Okay. We got to the airport. Beautiful airport, by the way. Lovely.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

And there's this tram going overhead. He never picked me up. I walked five miles. Where do you get it? Where do you get on the fucking thing? You have to walk upstairs to get on a tram that is not Rondall accessible. Going upstairs to get anywhere. I don't care if Jesus himself was handing out pizza up there. I'm not going up there. I'd be like, throw it down, Jesus. You work out.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a great metaphor for Jax and Britney, though. Just going around and around, really. With nowhere in sight and no end.

[Ronnie Karam]

And then we were walking here, we saw another tram. And I was like, where does that stop? I feel like you guys are trammed.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's a tram in the. There's a tram in the airport which is like up in the rafters.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then there's the monorail here. That just seems to. I'm sorry. It's a people mover.

[Ronnie Karam]

A people mover.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a people mover. Not to be confused with Sir's Goat Cheese Ball mover.

[Ronnie Karam]

A people mover.

[Ben Mandelker]

A people mover.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's a man I'd marry. So what are you into? I'm people mover. I'm in. Unzip your pants.

[Ben Mandelker]

People mover. Move me Seriously. It moves the seriously to the seriously.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, all right. So. Previously on Vanderpump Rule. Welcome to DJ Kennedy DJ Night Party. See you next time. Next Tuesday, it's Tom La la Cat La la Helle lala Ain't nobody feeling.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like you're feeling you Like I'm feeling you Like I'm feeling you sk Ain't nobody feeling like I'm feeling you sk Like I'm feeling you sk Like I'm.

[Ronnie Karam]

Feeling you sk Fat man, fat man Lola feels a fat man like fat like a walrus Like Robin eating Batman Fat man, fat man Lola feels a fat man.

[Ben Mandelker]

Jax, did you have relations with Faith next to a sleeping 90 year old while Faith recorded you on voice notes? Tell me the true Jackie. Jax.

[Ronnie Karam]

No.

[Ben Mandelker]

Rot in hell, Jack's.

[Ronnie Karam]

Rotten.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hell.

[Ronnie Karam]

Dude. Ariana, it's so nice being, like, the one stable, loving, trusting relationship in this friend group.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's because we both take sketch comedy very seriously.

[Ronnie Karam]

Schwartz, Sheena told me that you made out with some girl from Toko Madera.

[Ben Mandelker]

Papa, it wasn't a big deal. I just made out with a girl.

[Ronnie Karam]

It is a big deal. Schwartz. You're making out with people who aren't your wife.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but then who would I make out with?

[Ronnie Karam]

Me. Schwartz, you're supposed to be making out with me. It's not even really your fault for cheating on me. It's Sheena's fault for telling people you were cheating on me. Hey, Chris, Rob cheated on Sheena.

[Ben Mandelker]

Seriously? No way. That's amazing. Is that true?

[Ronnie Karam]

Who knows? Spread it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, Mariposa reporting for duty. Sheena, Katie told me that Rob kissed a girl at Taco Madera.

[Ronnie Karam]

No way. All right, Rob, it's my forever ever. He can hang a TV in under five minutes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, I hate you, but that's hot.

[Ronnie Karam]

Um, Katie, can I speak to you by the refrigerator?

[Ben Mandelker]

Um, is there a ranch in there?

[Ronnie Karam]

Um, you're telling people that Rob cheated at Toca Madera.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but you're telling people Tom cheated at not Toca Madera.

[Ronnie Karam]

But Tom did cheat at not Toca Madera.

[Ben Mandelker]

So what's your point? Toca Madera.

[Ronnie Karam]

If you pretend that Rob didn't cheat at Toca Madera, I'll pretend Tom didn't cheat at not Toca Madera. Keep my Toca Madera relationship out of your Toca Madera mouth.

[Ben Mandelker]

Toca Madeira. Okay, Hanson.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Vanderpump rules. Season six, episode seven. It's not about the pasta. Season six.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow.

[Ronnie Karam]

Before terrorism, before COVID before Ozempic. That was a horrible time.

[Ben Mandelker]

That was a horrible.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'll take all of that for some Ozempic. You can do it all over. 9 11. Me again. Just give me the Ozempic. I'm telling. You know, sorry, that was too far back.

[Ben Mandelker]

We chose. We chose this episode because obviously it has an iconic scene. What I was not expecting rewatching it is that it was almost one of the most perfect episodes of anything to air on Bravo.

[Ronnie Karam]

It really was.

[Ben Mandelker]

And there was so many things in this episode I was like, that was here. I mean, even Kristen's little gift moment was here.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, actually, Ronnie, that reminds me. I actually got you something to celebrate this. It's Sheena's smile. We found.

[Ronnie Karam]

The one thing this show is missing is evil Stasi. This is like Stasi So was this one Stasi. I know we should know this. We're recappers. But we're old ones. Was this one Stassi was dating Patrick. We were discussing Now. That's why. Damn it.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was before that. It was before she went back to terrorizing her boyfriend with BO.

[Ronnie Karam]

Stop. Stop. Is there popcorn here, you bastards? Nobody told us. All right, show's over. Thank you so much for coming, Papa Madera. Okay, so here we are. They're getting sir outfits for Pride, which is hilarious that they actually went to a fabric store. You need a napkin and some tape. Okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

That's basically what it was.

[Ronnie Karam]

You need exactly what Brit was doing. Brits. We ho in napkins and tape. That's it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. There's this random lady named Alina. I don't even remember if she was on the show or she just came in to be, like, the. Like the wardrobe consultant for this important scene. But she comes in with a bunch of handkerchiefs and she's like, here we go. This is bohemian. You know, you put it on, it becomes uniform. At Sir Goat Cheese Ball.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know what the gays love to see on Pride? Women. Boobs.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Lisa's. Lisa's whole vision is spreading the love. I'm like, that's what got half those cats in trouble in the first place.

[Ronnie Karam]

Lisa Vanderpump. Hello. Welcome. It's my Vanderpump Pride. You know, I've always been a believer in homosexual rights, except driving. They're terrible drivers, really. And I won't let one bust the tables here. Actually, not many work here at all, really. But I do allow them the alley to suck dick in. So. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

One of the most important things that we do here on Vanderpump Rules is promote equality, because love is. Which is why we've made a pledge to make sure that in every season of Vanderpump Rules, there is not a single gay man as a cast member, or at least one who's out.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know? Stassi's been assisting with events at CERN on Pride. I'm always kind of pulled. Pulled in different directions. There's a giant Easter hat stall pulling me this way. A magician pussy bow pulling me this way.

[Ben Mandelker]

A pile of tuna tartar. What do I choose? So I need all the hands I can get, even if they are Stassi's grubby little mitts. Get it?

[Ronnie Karam]

And Stassi's like, I think Britney would like to top the flowers on this. So it keeps her boobs more secure. Those things are gigantic. She has been attacked. Jax has forced size quadruple Q's onto her. And can we just get some flowers to glue gun onto Britney's rest?

[Ben Mandelker]

We found out where all of Meemaw's beerchies went and it was stuffed into her boobs. Don't hug her too hard.

[Ronnie Karam]

I've heard there are so many things I kind of forgot. I mean, once I saw them I remembered them. But like that Jax forced those things onto Britney. That is terrible. He's such an asshole. They're like two little VW bugs. He was like, I love a bug. Put him in there.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Natalie, Natalie's there and she's like, oh yes, Brittany. She has huge boobs now thanks to Jax and this poor woman Alina who thinks that these are normal people. It's like, oh, she got pregnant.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, no, no. He bought a pair and had a mechanic shove them under the hood, darling.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, well, Ariana, Sheena and Lala want to wear the ones that have the smaller ones because they got smaller boobs. Gross. Disgusting.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, I know you, Alina. I know what you're up to, you little minx. You're going to find the meanest, skimpiest little outfit. You're going to put that on someone just to get Ken's engines running before it's his birthday. Am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll knock your Spock out. Spark out.

[Ronnie Karam]

Can't wait to see what we do for this year's pride, darling. I really hope we accentuate the breasts on these. I mean, that's one thing I really realized. Just holding Jiggy. Jiggy was still with. I think that was Jiggy. I know, I love Jiggy too. But we all know that was a sock. We all know at this point that dog died like 30 years ago.

[Ben Mandelker]

And we all fucking know the original AI was jiggy.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ronnie Karam]

And she's like yeah, I can't wear that because I still have scars from my boob reduction and let's take a look at it. Look at my pictures and then her, you know her pictures are like this and like one boobs over here and one boobs like that I'm like, I still look like that. I didn't have anything done. It's just how my body appropriates itself. So. So they look at the boobs and they laugh at them. And I was just like, could you even do that today? Did Stassi just revenge porn herself? There's been a lot of that on Bravo. So they're like, laughing over her scarry boobs and stuff. And I was like, oh, God. Simpler times.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. So then, among many other things this episode had to offer, it was the introduction of Kelsey Patel, Reiki master. Oh. So we see Jax and Schwartz and Sandoval. They go to this meditation place. Oh, and Peter's there too, which is often. That's a phrase that people say a lot.

[Ronnie Karam]

Cause this is still like, the first third of the season. Because, remember, this was like Cheers, where they did like 100 episodes a season for a while, it just kept going. So this was only episode seven. So the guys were still in that mode where they're like, we're different this year. All I want to do is be loyal to Katie and not drink things. Go to meditation. So they go in there, and Kelsey's like, I'm Kelsey, the Reiki master. You guys, these are essential oils. And Jax is just unzipping his pants.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like. He's like, I'll have some on my palm, please. So Peter's like. He's like, oh, I love. I love doing Reiki. It's weird that it makes me feel like I'm in tune with the universe. You know, I have all my chakras in line. It'll do a world of good for you. Just an update. He's still working at Sur.

[Ronnie Karam]

So community college would have been a better stop on the trail on the people mover. Jax, next time, tell the people mover to head to Community.

[Ben Mandelker]

Meanwhile, Jax explains what he always thought Reiki was. He says, I always thought Reiki was. When you go to Brookstone and you purchase those little squares with the rakes in the sand, that's called a rake, and that's a zangard. That's. He's like. He hears Reiki and he just assumes it's about rakes. He thinks he's going to a rake therapy. He's gonna be given a rake, and it's gonna give him deeper meaning in life. This guy is such an idiot.

[Ronnie Karam]

And he believes it too, you know? So Kelsey's like, okay, everybody lie down. I'm gonna touch you. Jack's Please put your boner away, Jack. Like, I haven't even done anything yet.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay? I had a res. Okay, I'm having a revelation. So recently. I've just been getting way too drunk recently, and I just feel like I have so many golden opportunities right now. It made me realize if I get drunk, if I keep getting drunk, I could be drunk.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're gonna fucking. Is that what you're gonna do? Or you're just gonna keep fucking things up because you're wasted? I was like, damn, Kelsey. Kind of Reiki. Is that like, listen, you stupid little drunk, fuck up. Get your shit together. How about that? Damn.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Kelsey, she's like, okay, so this is what you're going through. I want you to write down ownership right here. I was like, can you only write down 10% of that word? Because that's as much as I'm pretty sure he's allowed to have, according to Lisa Vanderpump.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, Write ownership on this slip of paper and then write foreclosure on this.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Sandoval, this is his great revelation, which, you know, anyone could have told him this. He goes, dude, I feel like my mind is dulled. It has to be sharp first to get dull.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Kelsey's like, okay, now write down repossessed right here on this one. So they're writing it, and Peter's like, you know what I'm writing down? Go, go, go, go. That's all I do. I go. I see someone at the front of the restaurant. I'm like, do you need a table? Let's go. Table 32, open.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay. Write down sad. Okay. So then she's like, okay, okay. I can tell this one's gonna need some special energy. Okay. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, yeah. Tap harder. Tap, tap, tap harder.

[Ben Mandelker]

Tap, tap.

[Ronnie Karam]

Ow. God damn it.

[Ben Mandelker]

F. Okay, you're having a breakthrough. What's happening? What are you feeling, Jack?

[Ronnie Karam]

Guys, there's just, like, a lot of things going on with me right now, you know? It's just like, so much going on, you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Here, let's tap out. Let out a little bit more. Tap, tap, tap. Let it out, baby. Tap, tap, tap.

[Ronnie Karam]

Heart, Stop touching me with that thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, Come on, you're getting close.

[Ronnie Karam]

I am, I am, I am.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let it out.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Kelsey's like, jax, are you willing to feel afraid? And he's like, I don't want to feel afraid. I don't want to feel afraid. I'm so afraid of feeling afraid. She's like, that's okay. Jax, it's okay to be afraid. Tell us your problem. And he's like, you know, I just had a great relationship for two years. So good. It's the best fucking relationship. And then she caught me doing something. What the fuck, man?

[Ben Mandelker]

And he keeps cutting to Sandoval, who's like, it's deep, bro.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. You know, like, after the whole cheating thing with Britney, whatever, you know, like, no one's really stopped to see, like, jax, how are you doing? No, like, I mean, Kelsey's actually showing that she cares about me. She's invested in me. Like, she's holding rock hard. I got rock hard. And Kelsey's like, you'll never, ever, ever Listen, I've known you for five minutes, and I can promise you this. You, Jax Taylor, will never make anyone happy. You have to start with yourself. Juxtapose that with this, this week when Jax is like, I just need to take care of myself. Guys, origin story. Blame Kelsey.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, Jax, can I give you a hug?

[Ronnie Karam]

Fucking please.

[Ben Mandelker]

Not. Not that kind of hug.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kelsey Patel, the original rock dealer in.

[Ben Mandelker]

Jax's life, by the way, let's really not. Let's not gloss over the fact that Jax literally said after the whole cheating thing, no one's asked me how I'm doing. It's hard. It's hard to cheat. It's hard to cheat when you get caught. Like, you just feel like such a failure.

[Ronnie Karam]

Someone was recording secret voice notes of me. Do you know how hurtful that is?

[Ben Mandelker]

So they hug. And I just like how everyone in the room's like, yeah, he wants to fuck her.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Jax is like, do you think that chick will let me move in with her? So, I mean, that wouldn't be that surprising if he tried to sleep with her, you know? And he's like, I could deal with that every fucking day. A chick who's only worried about hardness.

[Ben Mandelker]

Peter goes, I'm happy I could help. Shut up, Peter.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Peter's like, happy I could help, guys. Happy I could help.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is what. He's having conversations with himself in the surbac alley right now. He's like, I just need someone to sit in the other chair. We'll have a scene. So another origin story that happened here. So this is the first time we met Kelsey Patel. And now we. We hear the origin story of Britney's new face. It starts here, where she goes, guys, I think I'm gonna try Botox.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wah, wah, wah wah. Wax.

[Ben Mandelker]

It happened today. This is the moment. Congratulations.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm gonna try Botox.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're A cool guy. Botox.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, it's the best. That's like the best thing that you could do. And Marlowe's like, I mean, I do it, but everything I do is perfect for her career.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Karam]

She's like, I've been putting Vaseline around my eyes since I was five. Cause my mom told me, when you're older, you'll have crow's feet and no man will ever fuck you on a yacht again.

[Ben Mandelker]

So I decided I didn't want to have crow's feet, but I wanted to fuck a guy who did.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Brittany's like, hi. Apparently all the guys went to Reiki meditation. And Jack's like, he cried, you guys. He cried.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. That's what I heard in Brittany's like, yeah, he finally showed some emotion. You know, I'm seeing him putting in the effort, and that's all I ever wanted. To lie on a pillow while someone tapped his forehead. That's it. That's all. That's all you.

[Ronnie Karam]

But I like the rest of her sentence. She goes, all I wanted him was for him to show some emotion and not cheat on me. Obviously, you know that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Don't worry, it'll work out.

[Ronnie Karam]

Lalo's like, so I'm having lunch with Katie, and I feel confident because, like, she's really been kind to me, you know? Katie, girl's girl. So pretty. Do you hang out with them a lot? Did they talk about Sheena's relationship?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, the reason I found out is because I was at lunch with Katie and Kristen and they told me about it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Bloop, bloop, bloop, blub, blub, bloop, bloop.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bloop, bloop, blub, blub. That's my flashback music. And we just see a flashback to Katie saying, like, I heard about, like, a Toca Madera chick that, like, Rob hooked up with. Seriously amazing. I'll tell everyone.

[Ronnie Karam]

Flashing back to now. You know what? Katie started this whole thing. What? Brittany, look at me in the eye. Katie started this whole thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm not following. Can you say that a little bit slower?

[Ronnie Karam]

Of course she started. Ariana's like, of course she started it, Sheena. I missed the years where Ariana and Katie hated each other's guts.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

This was like a warm blanket, you know? I was like, oh, God. Back when I wasn't the only one. So Ariana's like, yeah, of course they are, Sheena. Cause what else do they have to talk about? Not a one of them takes a comedy class. I can tell you that much right now?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. What are they talking about? Fucking statement necklaces. Their white wine they're having at lunch. I'm like, leave Luanna Ramona out of this.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Ariana is very worried about Sheena because her anxiety is getting the best of her. So she's like, none of your business. And she was like. I mean, it's like such a deflecting mechanism that Katie finds out her husband has yet again made out with someone in public. And she's like, oh, my God, don't get mad at me because your boyfriend's making out with people in public. And I'm like, sweetheart, that is your boyfriend. Not my boyfriend. No, that's your husband, not my boyfriend. My boyfriend doesn't make out with anyone, even me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Case closed.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she says, what kind of slam is that? Your boyfriend doesn't make out with you.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. So the best part about Sheena is the way she just goes and tells the same story over and over again. So this is the beginning of this one. She's like, well, after that whole rumor came out, I told you Rob. And his reaction was just, like, laughing. But, like, now I haven't seen him for like a few days and I'm wondering, is he still laughing? Did he even hear what I said? Was he laughing at me? Was it because the TV that he put up in five minutes had friends on it? Because that's a funny show. Was he laughing at something behind me all this time? And then he was like, when he heard about me, what I said, he started to cry. Like, was it. Where'd the laughter come from? And I'm like, just, like, really confused about it. And I'm just like, just want to put on a halter top and just, like, cry in a corner right now. I'm so confused. She's spiraling.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, I just hate that we're even still talking about this. I mean, you were talking about it last night. Now we're talking about it now. What, are we going to talk about it tomorrow? Can we never talk about it again? We talked about it at the refrigerator. Does that mean nothing? The refrigerator was like, the serious place. You don't make a deal in front of that skanky ass refrigerator and then renege on that deal the next day.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, Chef, while Chef Joe is trying to push out, like, rutabaga soup, you know, it's going right by that fridge.

[Ronnie Karam]

During one of the chefs, so too. Remember when Chef Joe's like, here, I've got a special for the day. And then he hands him a plate, and it's like a bowl of soup, but there's soup all over the outside of the bowl. He's like, here, take it.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then Lisa would tell us, we here at do something we call specials. They're dishes that are for one night only. Just one of our unique ways of innovating the restaurant industry.

[Ronnie Karam]

So sick. Oh, my God, you guys. Can we make a promise? Like, we're by a refrigerator? Please? Let's not ever talk about Rob possibly cheating again. Hold on. Rob's calling me. Hello? I'll call you back.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's still laughing, but what if he stopped laughing after the phone call?

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, so now we see Brittany, Katie, Stassi, and Kristen, the witches of WeHo plus Brittany walking down the street, and they're going to see La La Land without La La, which is really fucking cool.

[Ben Mandelker]

That is the irony.

[Ronnie Karam]

There's.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's no lala at Lalaland. So Stassi is like, there's, like, nothing more fun than a girl's night where you all dress up in primary colors in the costumes of La La Land. There's literally so many more fun things to do.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like, I mean, I can never remember which fucking La La Land color isn't actually a fucking primary color.

[Ben Mandelker]

I do love that Stassi, like, dissed primary colors. She's like, I'll take anything down.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm so basic. I don't know if peach is a primary color.

[Ben Mandelker]

Stupid.

[Ronnie Karam]

That was Stassi Singh. She was like, I'm a rebel. I'm basic.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

I like ranch dressing and not knowing whether peach is a primary color. Fuck you.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they're just, like, chatting, and Katie's like, I'm not looking forward to working with Sheena. Sheena accused me of spreading rumors about Rob. And Sheena went around and started telling people about the Tom rumor. I mean, this season really did have it all. I mean, there was, like, multiple cheating rumors happening at once.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, I tried to tell her. I was like, katie wouldn't make this up.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's Katie.

[Ronnie Karam]

She a good person, okay? No one would call her Bubba if she wasn't a good person.

[Ben Mandelker]

That bitch cannot comprehend anything that is beyond an Instagram selfie or a Snapchat story. She has a boyfriend and she has sir, and that's it. She needs to get a fucking hobby, dude.

[Ronnie Karam]

That is a hobby, a boyfriend and sir. What more do you need? There's more than I do in a day. So they do shots and their waiters there, and he's like, been told, like, hey, there's a single girl at the table. So he's just lingering. He's like, hi, I'm Chris. Welcome to La La Land.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, Brittany, hi. Have you heard of Kentucky? It's a state. He's like, yeah, I'm from Winchester. He's like, oh, I've heard of that. I've heard of the letter W. Oh, me too.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're from almost the same place as me. We could be family. Show me your teeth. Got em all. Not family. Move along.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's definitely flattering to have a guy flirt with me, you know? Cause it's nice to know that people do like me and are, like, attracted to me and stuff. But I think I'm gonna go back to the guy who doesn't like me and isn't attracted to me. Jx.

[Ronnie Karam]

It'S definitely good to have a guy flirting with me. This guy's just like, can I leave now? Did you guys. Did you guys want a side of fries or.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Brittany has an announcement, which is, I decided I want to try to work it out because Jax went to Reiki meditation.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Katie's like, oh, my God, Reiki for how long? I like that Katie knows how long it takes. Like, is this like real Reiki or like a temp Reiki? I mean, was it like the full Reiki? Course it's tapping her head with fucking pebbles off the ground. Katie. Katie's like a. Tom made a real effort. He stopped drinking for 10 minutes. So.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Stassi, like, tries to warn her. She's like, look, he's gonna beg, he's gonna cry, he's gonna say, he's gonna get help. He's gonna do all these things. He's gonna hurt you all over again. Which, by the way, all does come true. And she's like, you know, I know that you're holding on to hope. I can see it on your face. Oh, actually, that's just honey mustard. Could you wipe your face, please?

[Ronnie Karam]

But at least he tried, you know, he went to Reiki. I can't wipe to start having pet kids with him. So Kristen's like, but he acted so cold. And Stassi's like, I mean, Jax knows exactly what the fuck he's doing, okay? He's doing the bare minimum to keep Britney, which, I mean, it's really all.

[Ben Mandelker]

It takes to Britney.

[Ronnie Karam]

Today he put on shoes with laces and tied one of them.

[Ben Mandelker]

You guys trying?

[Ronnie Karam]

He's trying.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now we go to Lala and Logan. Logan, other Logan, other Logan walking down the street. Walking down the street, going into Sweet Chick. And they sit down with one dj James Kennedy, who announces, he points out to them, do guys want to hear something that's so gangsta? They have gin and Welch's. Welch's grape soda together. It's so gangsta.

[Ronnie Karam]

Street, Street Kennedy in our house. Am I right? This could be the new gin and juice.

[Ben Mandelker]

This could be the new pumptini Gangsta Teeny.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, we want gin and juice and we want a few shots. Make them doubles. All of them doubles. Get them triples. Get triple shots here. It's all we do over here. I can drink. I stop drinking whenever the I want to. All right. Would an alcoholic order four doubles?

[Ben Mandelker]

Put them in a glass big enough to impress a fat man.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like. To getting drunk. To getting drunk. I used to love. I love how Bravo used to to deal with alcoholism storylines. This was James's alcohol storyline. This is James's quitting season.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I just bought some acapulco chairs for my patio and they are so cool. They were so easy to assemble and also so comfy. They arrived quickly and like, they look great out there.

[Ronnie Karam]

If you're having a backyard get together, Wayfair is your one stop shop for outdoor entertaining.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cookout shop, patio tables, grills and dishware. Pool party. Kick back with lounge chairs, daybeds, umbrellas, game night. Wayfair's got cornhole, croquet, string lights to set the scene. I mean, it really goes on and on.

[Ronnie Karam]

Ronnie Wayfair's huge selection of outdoor items makes it easy to find exactly what's right for you. And the best part to me was that I got to pick it out and then I got to have someone come put it all together as well.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love that. Get big stuff like patio sets, gazebos, hot tubs, outdoor dining sets, and more shipped for free.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

Literally. So then he takes like syrup from the table and pours it into his shot. And Lala's like, that's fucking disgusting. He's like, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. I know you both love Raquel, right? You both love Raquel. And Logan's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, Cause you know, sometimes I have drinks and I just don't even realize, you know, But I can stop drinking anytime I want, no problem. No problem whatsoever.

[Ronnie Karam]

So you both left for Kale, right? And Logan's like, keep going, keep going.

[Ben Mandelker]

What?

[Ronnie Karam]

What? And Lala's like, go ahead, finish your sentence. And so he's like, well, all right, all right, all right. So now you're making faces at each other. Oh, oh, right, right. Stupid bitch. Fuck you. Fuck you. Stupid game. You stupid bitch. Fuck both of you. Give me another shot over here. Listen, we're best friends, right? I'm friends with you lot. Is that right? You're going to treat her like that? She's moving in. I gave her a draw in my house.

[Ben Mandelker]

Can they show a flashback of James being. James is giving Raquel a tour of her future home, AKA the twin size mattress behind the strange room divider shade.

[Ronnie Karam]

And he's like, with the old creepy gay guy who lived behind the changing wall thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, g, guess what? I cleared out a drawer for you. And this drawer up here, that's going to be yours someday, but I still have to work on that one. And then something you can dream of someday. Tonight when you go to sleep, you can just imagine your camisole in that drawer.

[Ronnie Karam]

Cut to a Raquel reaction shot. She's like, so if you pull the handle, then something comes out and then you put stuff in it. It's a draw, Raquel. It's a goddamn drawer. You've got it.

[Ben Mandelker]

So James is like really excited that Raquel's gonna be moving in and that she has a whole entire drawer. And so he's like trying to be like, this is great news. Isn't everyone excited about this great news?

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God. What problem's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

You'Re not excited for me? You're not excited for me and my relationship. Do you have a problem with that?

[Ronnie Karam]

Honey, did you not see them at your see you next Tuesday? What? What? What? What happened at see you next Tuesday then? What happened? What you said happened to see you next Tuesday then? And. And she's like, yeah, we ate all of her pop and she didn't even give us permission.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're a bitch. You're a bitch. I'm gonna leave. You're a bitch.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're a bitch. I'm outta here. You're a bitch. Give me your drink. I'll have yours as well. Fuck both of you. All right? Yeah, she's been nothing but a fucking friend to you. You know, you have a fucking mind right now. You think you can be mean? You think you can bully a little girl with a pasta?

[Ben Mandelker]

To you, Paul, Raquel, a more beautiful woman than you'll ever be. Lawler.

[Ronnie Karam]

Lala, his line was not that good back then. I mean, it's still not great. But she's like a master now compared to then because she just said we ate her pasta and we didn't even ask her. And now she goes, but Raquel offered her pasta to us. And he's like, oh, don't with my bitch, all right? You need to learn to respect a woman, all right? Don't with my.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because I will. I will. You. Everyone around you, you stupid fat slop. Slop. Big slop. Because you're sleeping with a fat fitness man. A fat man.

[Ronnie Karam]

Fat man. All right, Fat man. Yeah, fat man's gonna get bored of you, and he's going to be onto the next young, pretty blonde. You know, if you want the true, if you want the truth about it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, listen, even a drunk clock is right twice a day. You know what?

[Ronnie Karam]

When James drinks, the shocker about re watching this is how wrong these people are. But how right they all are. I mean, they're.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but they don't get judgments.

[Ronnie Karam]

Are all on point. Everything they predicted about each other came true.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but no, because you don't, like, earn brownie points if you drive on the wrong side of the road and someone says you're gonna get hit by a car and then you get hit by a car. It's like the most obvious call to make. Yeah, everything here is so obvious.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Lala's like, yeah, when James drinks, he just Becomes a werewolf. So that's his claws come out the banks and the bloods are dripping. They're just dripping. That's what happens happens to him after two drinks. He's like, oh. She goes, james, I literally said, Raquel said, do you want some of my pasta? She begged me to eat her pasta. Okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

And he's like, no, no, stop talking about the Dan pasta. Get over. You've been a towards Raquel, A real fat slut.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like, are you really saying that just because I ate her pasta? Annette, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey. All right, you the man because he pays your rent. All right, all right. It's like, stop it. Stop this, Logan. So Lala's like, you know what? You can't say whatever the you want. Learn your place. We'll cut you. Do you understand? I was slicing you from forehead down your gullet. Do you want to stab me on the street?

[Ben Mandelker]

You wanna see gangsta gin and grape. Grape soda has nothing on me. I'm Lala Kent.

[Ronnie Karam]

I will curb stomp your ass.

[Ben Mandelker]

So know how the fuck to talk to somebody when they're your friend? Cause I'm out. Have an amazing day.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wait a minute. When am I gonna talk to you again? You gonna talk to me again? You can't just leave like that. Lala, come on. I'm gonna talk again.

[Ben Mandelker]

Logan's like, go talk to her.

[Ronnie Karam]

So he chases her out and he's like, all right, La la, I'm sorry, la. I'm sorry, skinny man.

[Ben Mandelker]

I told you that I ate Raquel's pasta and. And that's how you come for me? Like, what the.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, it was a dig. It was a dig. It was a possess.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wrong with you. What the is wrong with you?

[Ronnie Karam]

It was a dick.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was a joke. Stop coming for people who have your. I told you I had a bite of pasta and then the whole thing was devoured. And that's why you go off on a drunken tangent.

[Ronnie Karam]

What's the pasta? What are you going on about the pasta. Stop with the pasta. It's not about the pasta. Lala. Right? Not fucking about the pasta, right? Cheese. It's not. It's not about the pasta. It's about Lola showing respect to my bitch. All right? My. Like how does she expect me to respect her fat man if she can't respect my bitch horse slut?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, come on, she's literally dating. She's literally dating a cheese stuffed ravioli. Get over the pasta already.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, show some respect if you want respect back, not giggle after you eat my girlfriend's pasta.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think my favorite part of that is, like, the emotional arc of him saying that phrase. Because the first one is like, it's not about the pasta. But then it gives him this kind of, like, sad place where he goes, it's not about the pasta.

[Ronnie Karam]

So she's like, stop touching Queen. Stop touching Queen. Don't touch me. And he's like, we can talk later, right? We can talk.

[Ben Mandelker]

Get out of my face. Okay. I'm getting wet.

[Ronnie Karam]

Get out of my face. Love you so much. Love you so much, Lala. So now we go to sir and Sheena. Ariana and Brittany are working. Oh, God, I miss when they actually work. This was so fun whenever. I mean, there's so many classic moments that have come out of this show. But when I think back on Vanderpump Rules, like, the scene that really makes me, like, get a tear in my eye is when Katie was marrying ketchups and then she, like, held a tray of ketchups for like, a whole, whole scene. I was like, this is real.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, those married ketchups were the strongest relationship on this show. So Britney's like, hey, how you doing today? Reiki fixed everything for me. And Sheena's like, were there girls talking about me last night? Cuz I do not want to talk about this again. Cuz my friends. Cuz a friend of my mom's was there and like, overheard my name and saying that. Like, I was accusing him this.

[Ronnie Karam]

And the other one of my mom's was at La La Land. So you know. What the are you talking. That was Aunt Pam, wasn't it? Wasn't. Was that her aunt's name?

[Ben Mandelker]

She was commissioned to put a halter top on the movie screen.

[Ronnie Karam]

She like, sort of invented crop tops. So.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Brittany's like, well, Kylie was upset because you were saying that she started a rumor and then she felt like you were kind of doing the same thing she was. I tried to introduce Rob to this group, and now I feel miserable. I don't want him involved with Katie and Stassia and Gina. It's just, like, drama that he doesn't need. He's like, way too busy and successful in this life to deal with their bullshit. I mean, do you know how fast he can put up a TV on the wall? It is insane. And I don't feel happy anymore. And they kind of, like, took that from me. And, like, they think they could do whatever the fuck they want. They think. And then they're the ones that. They literally broke me they broke me, okay? They took away my happiness.

[Ronnie Karam]

Dear guys, I know that you don't eat cereal anymore, but if you pull out milk and look on the back, there's a picture of my smile, and it says, missing. They stole it. And Ariana's like, yeah, it seems like Katie's the one who twisted it into something else.

[Ben Mandelker]

Shocker. There's something about her. So, Britney.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, listen, I don't know if it's true, but I think she got mad because she thought you guys weren't going to talk about it, and then I guess you were talking about it, and I think that's what upset her. Plus, some lady who said she knows your mom came up and started eating Katie's popcorn. You know Katie don't like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, well, we were talking about it, but then, like, her and Sausage was sitting and added, like, more information to the story, and, like, no one saw anything because there was, like, nothing to see with Robin Taco Madera. Oh, my God, I'm losing my smile again.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I mean, it's not like she made up the rumor on it's an honor run. That's not how lives work.

[Ben Mandelker]

Do. You know, up here, sometimes things sound funny because we're projecting out that way. And this is what that just sounded like to me. Hold on. Hold, hold. Which is, like, very accurate to Britney.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm doing that with you too. I'm like, side reading your face today. Like, what the is he saying?

[Ben Mandelker]

I feel like, to be fair, that is basically 13 years of our podcast. So now the Toms, Tom and Tom, are walking down the sidewalk, and they're going into Tom Tom.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yes, Tom Tom, the site of Tom Tom, the old dildo store in West Hollywood. I love that. I just love that the dildo store became Tom Tom.

[Ben Mandelker]

So.

[Ronnie Karam]

I remember it. She's like, I remember it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hey, Leon, I jerked off like a.

[Ronnie Karam]

Maniac with that store. Yes, girl. That was Chi Chi Larue's dildo store.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. Yes. So.

[Ronnie Karam]

So, Ms. LaRue, we'd love to make a deal for your dildo store.

[Ben Mandelker]

What if we turned your dildo into to a giant clock with a swinging pendulum over the bar by Maestro Nicoleen.

[Ronnie Karam]

We'd like to turn your dildo from a dildont into a dildo.

[Ben Mandelker]

What do you say?

[Ronnie Karam]

Chi Chi?

[Ben Mandelker]

So these two walk into a visual metaphor of their life, a pile of trash. And they're gonna pick up the debris to show that they can work for an hour. And Tom Schwartz is like, oh, man, we're gonna need a tetanus shot after this.

[Ronnie Karam]

I stepped on a nail.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's literally like, have you ever stepped on a nail? And Sandoval's like, no, dude. He's like, I have.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now they have a little grabber because their job is to clean up trash, which by way the, the way they don't do this whole scene, they just use one of those like little light bulb change grabber things like, oh, gross, disgusting. Oh, actually a dildo. I'm going to keep that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because we're like not putting up a majority of the money like Ken and Lisa are. I want to show them that we're like willing to invest that sweat equity that we talked about, bro. So like we're ready to get down and ready to get dirty and ready to figure out who the fuck the traitors are, bro.

[Ronnie Karam]

Wow. You know what I did last night? I got hammered. This is a week after he was like, katie, I'll never drink again.

[Ben Mandelker]

Schwartz says I got hammered and Sandoval's like dune. I know you did. You passed out on my sofa.

[Ronnie Karam]

Katie texted me last night. I sent her a message saying, just FYI, Schwartz is with me. That means, for your information, he's on my couch. And then I sent a picture of you on my couch with my balls resting on your forehead, bro.

[Ben Mandelker]

He had to dip, man. So Schwartz is like. Schwartz is like, oh. Katie made it very clear that for the foreseeable future she doesn't want me to get shit faced and she doesn't want me to take shots and have no guys nights. And ah, I pretty much managed to do all three of those in one night. Oopsie daisy. What a piece of shit this guy is.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, you know, I honestly thought Katie was gonna just go off on me, but then when I came home, it was amazing. She was so nice. She's never been that nice to me. It was such a warm, loving reception. I was like caught off guard. Like it made me fall in love with her. It's called a grief. What is? It's called bargaining. What are the steps of grief that you go through? She's like, okay. Grieving the marriage, bitter that it never happened. Accepting that it never happened, Bargaining that it could be better. She's like, this is you. Great. You fuck people great. You want to have some Doritos? I do too. Want to sleep till noon. Want to never work again. Sounds great.

[Ben Mandelker]

Please don't cheat on me. And then we had a very like 2018, or I should just say pre 2020moment when they're like, God, how do we put on these masks? This is so strange. I've never had to put one on. I was like, Aw. 2018.

[Ronnie Karam]

Was like, Whoa. It's so great. Like, you know, like, when you cheat on somebody and then they're like, really nice to you. That's like, so hot when girls do that.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we then cut over to Katie, and she's at Kristin and Carter's apartment. We don't see Carter, but, you know, his. His presence is felt. And Katie is like, so last night I went to sleep early, and then I Woke up at 5, and I look at my phone. I had a text message from Sandoval. It's a picture of Tom sleeping on his couch. Yeah. And this may be like the 20th time that he's fallen asleep at Sandoval. It just, like, happens.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. She's like, it happens. What are you gonna do? And Kristen's like, do you have this tracker? Do you have this tracker? What do you mean? Like a tracker? Like, you shoot it into his neck, look at it on your phone.

[Ben Mandelker]

Carter started sharing his location with me when he was in Europe, so I'm always like, are you going golfing? And he's like, yeah. I'm like, are you coming home? And it don't. He's like, yeah. He's like, I'm still at the course. I'm like, okay, cool. Seriously. Bye.

[Ronnie Karam]

Maripos out. Yeah. But like, he was like, bubba, I'm so happy to be married to you. You know? And he started talking about our kids and how they'd say, daddy, make me pancakes. So, like, I'm in love with him again. I'm also Katie. He was breathing liquor all over you while he said, you know, he had, like, snot dripping down his nose. Who else? I would tell you I love you if I was as fucked up as Tom. And like, hey, you know what? You're not so bad.

[Ben Mandelker]

She says, basically, like, if this had happened a year ago, she would have fucking had his head. So clearly that chapter has closed for her because I probably would have raised checked him and probably insulted his penis. But, you know, now we're just talking about it. Marriage is good for us.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, bless her heart. Every time Wendy Wednesday comes around, people call it hump day. And I'm like, this is the day Katie got married.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a Wednesday wedding. The Wednesday wedding.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's like, never okay for me. So now we go to the Tom. Tom's working at the site, and Lisa and Ken arrive. We just see Lisa. She's like magic. It's me, Lisa south and a pump. Come on, Ken. He's like, wow, look at this. Last time I was in here, there was a large drag queen trying to stick a knob up me bum. Doing a good job, boys. Doing a very good job.

[Ben Mandelker]

Schwartzy poo. Are you and Katie okay, darling?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, you know, I'm just happy to be doing something and not just talking about it. This morning, I jerked off to a lady on the corner, and Katie gave me a pack of Doritos to take in my lunchbox. We're doing great, Lisa. Thanks for asking.

[Ben Mandelker]

What is wrong with you? I'm actually going to sit you down and we're going to go over your marriage vows and we're going to talk about it, and then I will claim 5% of your soul.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, you don't have to to talk about my marriage vows. They're right here in my heart. I don't need to go over them. I remember them anyway. Rub a dub dub, please. Don't be a. Thanks, Katie. I guess I'll marry you, cuz you kind of made me. Happy Wednesday, everybody.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we, we go back to Katie.

[Ronnie Karam]

And you guys are booing, but you know it. That's true.

[Ben Mandelker]

I like, at the end of the scene, Lisa's like, schwarz is a bit too old for these puppy dog antics. I'm like, don't worry. He completely does not grow out of them in over the next eight years.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, you're married. And with that comes responsibility, eh, Ken? Every day, pick up a purse, put it on your. Put it on your. It on your wrist. Pick up a tiny little fluffy dog, stick your arm up its ass so people think it's alive and she doesn't have to buy a new one and train it. Spray yourself with a little something, put on an Iron Rod Stewart wig and go on with your day.

[Ben Mandelker]

So we, so we go back to the other girls, and Katie's talking about how, you know, sometimes you have to go through shit to get to a. A better place. They never got to the better place. And Kristen's like, oh, speaking of going through and couples. So I talked to Britney's mom and I told her mom that I think it'd be really fun to be surprised. And her mom agreed. So she's going to come and teach us how to put white lipstick on our lips.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, you know what? Jax just cheated on Britney. I thought it would be good to get her mom here to give Jack's attitude about it. She was the one who sent her to Vegas, knowing the Vanderpump rules, was there in the first place to get that fucker. So why shouldn't she suffer the consequences?

[Ben Mandelker]

So now it's time for WeHo Gay Pride, which is always great on the show because it's always the most chaotic event of the year. And so everyone's there, and it's all sorts of, you know, excitement. And love is love and drunkenness and all the good stuff. It's good. You could cheer for that.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's interesting. Cause it's what straight people do on Gay Pride. Like, all the shots they show, it's just girls in bikinis going up. And when gay guys float by on whatever perspective floats they're on, they're like, yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, bitch.

[Ronnie Karam]

We're like, please, we're not here for that, ma'. Am.

[Ben Mandelker]

So, well. Well, outside is love. Is love. Inside, Rob is in love. Because we see Rob and Sheena, and Rob's like, hi, how are you? Good, I guess. So I was, like, on a rampage the other night. Cause I, like, snapped at Ariana and Brittany over there, and then I just left. Cause I just hit, like, a breaking point because I was like, I do not want to talk about the Rob situation anymore.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's laughing.

[Ben Mandelker]

The laugh.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, look, look, baby, life is hard as it is. That's why you want good people in your life. Yeah. You know, if I'm literally gonna be in your life, which you will be forever, and that doesn't work for me, I'm fucking out of here. Got it?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, yeah. Well, I lost my smile this week for sure.

[Ronnie Karam]

Missing my smile. I mean, if I lose him because of what these bitches said, there's gonna be a real fucking problem. Friends wouldn't do this to me. He's like, don't lose your smile because of people. I want that smile on your face till the second I walk out your fucking door. Okay? All right, baby. He's so gross, this guy. That wasn't even far off from his actual quote. He told her. He literally told her, I'm literally going to be in your life. And if that doesn't work for me, then that's it. What the. All right, so what does Gay pride mean to Kristen, you guys? So Kristen's like, guys, all right, good pride. Gay. Gay pride. We're pro protesting that don't believe love is love, okay? And anyone that doesn't believe that love is love suck a dick. Suck a dick. Like, but it's gay pride. So can all of us who also believe in love suck a dick? Kristen, like, this is gay pride, man. Give us a chance, man.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Lisa, now it's, like, crowded in the restaurant. And Lisa goes up to Lala. She's like, oh, I keep missing you at the restaurant. She's like, I know. I want to chat with you. Oh, you're still with your boyfriend. We are noticing less fried chicken in the kitchen these days.

[Ronnie Karam]

So I just wanted to make sure it's going okay with your boyfriend. It's great. Is he still rolling over on you in the middle of the night? Sometimes. Is he still asking you to eat out his butthole as you proudly, proudly claimed you did last season? She's like, sometimes glad to hear my little birds are doing well.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. But, like, yesterday, James, for no parents reasons, just started slamming my mansk, okay? Like, one insult after the other. It was, like, very hurtful. Oh, but I thought you and James were friends. Yeah, we are friends. But what I saw yesterday is not the James that I know. I'm like, literally, that's the James that everyone knows.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's the James you know?

[Ben Mandelker]

That is the James.

[Ronnie Karam]

It's just that, like, it's when the gun goes off in your hand at the wrong time. Like, damn it, that's not. It's the gun. You're using the weapon for everybody else. Sometimes it goes off when you don't mean it to. So she's like, that motherfucker. And she goes, was he drinking? Was my poor little James drink? Who forced him to drink? Who forced liquor down his throat? You tell me right now, because I will tell you. No man in this restaurant does anything wrong unless a woman forces him to.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's just a broken bird. So, like, okay, let's go celebrate pride. So now it's more a fun time. Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay, gay. And they all, yes. Dassi calls everyone upstairs so this balcony area to put, like, little, like, glitter stuff on their face and everything. And I'll tell you, the one who wants to do it the most is Jax Taylor.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Jax is miserable to be there. And meanwhile, Kristen is putting flower crowns on everybody. But to Krista, it makes Kristen look like a flower girl at a wedding. Just walking down the aisle, she's just like, I want a flower crown. Petals are dropping all around.

[Ben Mandelker]

All dressed in caca.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Jax is like, yeah, anytime I don't have to take off my shirt on and put glitter all over my body is always a fucking plus. Fucking gay pride. Am I right? I've had enough gay pride. It's how I played my fucking Rhett in Miami. I don't need this shit. To you it's gay pride. To me it's revisiting trauma. All right.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Lala and Gina are having this moment where they're just like hugging. And Sheena's like, if you put your heart in my heart, then our hearts are touching. And that means that, like, we're bonded forever.

[Ronnie Karam]

I was with Rob came. He was like, so sweet. He was like, if I don't like you anymore, I'm going to fucking leave you, you stupid skank. And then he was like, don't let people steal your smile. I'm not going to lose it until, like, he walks out the door. It was like the sweetest thing I've ever heard. But, you know, like, we haven't had sex in a week. And I'm blaming Katie for that because that's contagious.

[Ben Mandelker]

I function best when he is functioning best. And when he's happy, I'm happy. And if something's bothering him, it's bothering me. And the other day I was like laughing. And then suddenly I stopped laughing. I was like, oh my God, did Rob just stop laughing? And I don't know, my smile is missing.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Lala's like, sheena looks like she just lost ten pounds. I was someone would treat me like shit. I know her not eating right now has everything to do with being stressed about drops. This is not healthy. Take down a chicken sandwich or two.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now more gay, gay, gay, gay, gay. And then Jax is behind the bar and Ken, Ken rolls up because Jax, everyone's like, fast. And Jax just in like a T shirt and also surly and looks like he wants to actually gay bash the people there.

[Ronnie Karam]

He does. He's like gay pride. He's got like a little flag. He's like, woohoo. He's wearing a shirt. Jax, this is a straight restaurant. You have blown more guys than anybody here. Could you at least have a little decency and take off your shirt? You've already done the work. Might as well enjoy the parade.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then the crowd of people parts. It's like the Red Sea and Ken Motorzob. Take off your shirt.

[Ronnie Karam]

Everyone, everyone, I've worn my very special large Easter hat, which we all know has a large brim to stop people from hugging me. So please gaze, keep a 10 foot radius. Now I would like to introduce myself. I'm Lisa Vanderpump, gay icon, woman of the world, woman for the people. You might know me as the woman who introduced our first black character six seasons in and gave her three lines and a com stained couch. And now I am here to introduce you to our first trans American waitress, Billie.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much.

[Ronnie Karam]

So what is it? Our Trans Am waitress, Billy Lee. Automobiles are important to this restaurant, Billy.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's really. It's an honor just to be here. She doesn't know what she's talking about, but it's an honor anyway.

[Ronnie Karam]

Transistor radio waitress. Extraordinary Close.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're getting closer, sort of.

[Ronnie Karam]

Sorry, what is it? The trend. I don't know what that is. What is it?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, Trump.

[Ronnie Karam]

Billy Lee. Go ahead, tell us.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everyone, my name is Billy Lee, and I am just here to say that it's just an honor to have a few lines on Bravo Television. So thanks for having me, and I'll just pop up, you know, every few seasons for the next few years, and I'll see you around.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, I went through a time where I just wasn't very accepted, and I was filled with a lot of shame. That's why we hired you, darling. The rest of the cast feels exactly the same. Welcome to Vanderpump Rules.

[Ben Mandelker]

So this is. This is actually a really good moment. And Jack, Jax has, like, a really cool reaction, which is, I didn't know she was transgender. I mean, whatever she did looks great. And then he walks up to her, and he's like. He goes. Jax says to Billy Lee. Billy Lee, who has probably been the brunt of so much, like, hate and transphobia and just joke, general tough times.

[Ronnie Karam]

Jax is like, that's just from Katie.

[Ben Mandelker]

Jax goes, trying to be someone you're not. I've been living like that my whole life. Yes, Jax, you are the true hero of the trans story.

[Ronnie Karam]

Finally, the hero of the trans movement. Jax. Thank you, Jax, ladies and gentlemen. And he's like, yeah, I didn't know she was transgender. I mean, what the fuck? Whatever you did, you got your money's worth. I'd fuck her fucking. So he's like, you look amazing. And she goes, yeah, you know, it's just a lot of surgeries, but my vagina's amazing. Remember every time they had Billie Lee on, she's like, my vagina's so good, you guys. Do you want to see it? They're like, no. So he's like, yeah, I've been like this my whole life. She goes, yeah. You know, Jax, I know you have your own and your own drama, but I really like your vibe, you know? And I looked at you, and I was like, that guy. That guy's Going through. And that guy has coke. Let's be friends.

[Ben Mandelker]

So now we got to James. He's like, you have good fat slack right here. This is one of the good fat sluts over here. I love you so much.

[Ronnie Karam]

I love.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. You're so close. Close, but no cigar. No cigar, if you know what I mean. Fat sluts.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Raquel's just sitting there like, huh.

[Ben Mandelker]

Rachel.

[Ronnie Karam]

No, not back then. It wasn't Rachel. It was pre Rachel. I'm not dead.

[Ben Mandelker]

Pre Rachel.

[Ronnie Karam]

Because it's like, back then. So, Rachel, Raquel, top, top. Look what you've done to me, lady.

[Ben Mandelker]

So James is wasted, and he's just, like, dangling all over Logan. And then he does this thing where he does, like, a face plant right over Jax's crotch. And Logan goes, grab his balls. Grab his balls.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Stassi's like, look at all the. This stuff I did for Pride. I got like, there's gay people out there. Good job, darling. You've done such a good job. I'm so glad that on Gay Pride I could give a non homosexual person a chance to move up in the world. Darlington.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Schwartz is like, oh, I want to do a shot out there. You know, it's some of work in progress. And Katie's like, aren't you drinking beer today? Yeah, but I've done. I've done nay shots. Not even one shot. I think every little boy deserves a shot.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Katie's still in her positive mood. She's like, yeah, I've been, like, trying to work on being a more calm, easygoing, easygoing wife. And, you know, like, Tom's working on not blacking out, so.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, bubba, come on. I rarely black out more than once.

[Ronnie Karam]

In a day, so they've decided that's progress. So they make out. So then James and Logan are still like, oh, yeah, you're fucking hot.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, you're my favorite. You're my favorite. You're so hot.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then James, like, you won't grab on me balls, don't you. Don't you just grab on them right there. Just grab on him if you want to. Prize you're my best mate, right? You love me, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. You love me, right? I love you. I love you so much.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, you love me More than that. You, like, really love me. Shut the up. You're like, what a. I give you a. Literally, like, right here. Like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Raquel's taking notes, so. And you. But then he. Then he, like, remembers. He's like. He's like, yeah, Logan, you know I love you. And I love Raquel, too. I love you too, Raquel. You're someone that I definitely love. I got you a drawer, A drawer behind a room divider.

[Ronnie Karam]

Logan's like, oh, you're here, Raquel, hi. She's like, I have this thing that you pull on a handle and it comes out and you put stuff in it. Yeah, give me your ball. Only touch your balls. Touch your balls on me. So poor Raquel, you know, back then. And so James is like, oh, you know I love you. I love you, mate. And I know Raquel loves you. Right? Raquel, come to life. Someone plug in Raquel. Plug in Raquel, please.

[Ben Mandelker]

So James. James is talking to Logan. It's like this weird fever dream of this, like, James and Logan thing. It's like. It's like. It's all over the place. And then he's like, you know, Logan, I'm never losing you as a friend ever. Cut to next week. So you guys. What? Never. I'm never going to talk to him again.

[Ronnie Karam]

Absolutely not.

[Ben Mandelker]

We're not even friends.

[Ronnie Karam]

My bro and Jax is just watching them all over each other. He's like, who's the top and who's the bottom?

[Ben Mandelker]

So, Sheena. Sheena. I just want to remind everyone that it's very important to Sheena that everyone stop talking about Rob. So meanwhile, we go over to Sheena talking to Brittany. I feel like I've just been, like, so angry this week because of all the stuff with Rob, you know, and. Well, you gotta stay positive, Sheena. Yeah, I just can't even eat right now because I'm so stressed out. And Brittany's like, oh, really? Because whenever I get really upset, I'm like, the complete opposite. I want to eat. I'm so hungry. I crave anything sweet. Okay. Anything to make me feel better. Okay. Chocolate wasted is a real thing.

[Ronnie Karam]

That's why I still love Britney the best, because I can relate. Like, I don't get these people. Like, oh, my God, I was so stressed out, I couldn't eat. Fuck you. What are you fucking bragging about? Am I supposed to feel sorry for you? Get the fuck out of here. You won. You won life.

[Ben Mandelker]

Darling. You look like you might be 3 ounces underweight. Is everything okay? What's going on, my dear?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, why don't we sit down at the table? Like, it's so hard. How long do you have? I'll make this really quick, okay. I've worked for you for, like, seven or eight years. Well, I can see something's going on with you. The way that you keep picking up your phone and listening to Ha ha ha ha ha on the other end. It's odd. Don't. You don't look yourself. I would say you're five pounds thinner. She goes, oh, my God. I know. I feel physically ill. I'm trying to eat, but I can't. Here, have some goat cheese balls. She's like.

[Ben Mandelker]

Are you not eating? You already have the job. It's like, I'm trying. I'm trying to eat, you know, But I let the. Let them affect my relationship. I don't know if you heard, but I lost my smile this week.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, no. Yeah. Katie, Kristen and Stassia are so mean to me. Like, I'm like, happiest when I'm not around those girls. Why are you investing in it, darling? Why are you letting it affect your relationship? You've got a perfectly decent man who loves you. None of that is true, but let's just say it was.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, I remember. I remember having conversations. You have to stop trying to pretend like everything's so perfect. I remember having conversations with you about Shay and you're like, oh, everything's fine, Everything's fine. And we see a flashback to 10 months ago. I thought Shay was, like, two years before Rob, but she was still with Shay 10 months ago. Being like, everything is great. Like, Shay and I is, like, the best marriage of all time. We're going to be forever.

[Ronnie Karam]

I worked so hard with Shay when he was an alcoholic. Like, I had, like, 12 drinks in front of him, you know, I thought it would be, like, supportive, you know, like, at least one of us still gets to drink. And it ended.

[Ben Mandelker]

It ended. We had a joint Halloween costume. I was print too, and he was canvas.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, but Rob's going to work out. We're, like, meant to be together. Okay, well, at least you're eating, darling. You know, you're not in a fit state to work. Not that anybody here really does anyway, but just stay there. Jo Jo, please give her a croissant. But you're welcome, darling.

[Ben Mandelker]

This calls for emergency measures making someone at this restaurant eat something. So she just grabs a random turkey sandwich on a croissant. Like whatever's coming out the. Coming out of the restaurant, the kitchen next, she just grabs it and she's like, here, Sheena, here, eat this. And you see Sheena looking at this plate of food. She's never seen a plate of food this big before in her life.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then we see Sheena and Rob sitting down and she's, like, leaning on him Saying I'm to going so much.

[Ben Mandelker]

Happier when you're around.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm just like, I don't let him affect my world. Like, look how happy we are. We're happy, right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Like so happy. The whole day I've been so frustrated. I'm just like a fucking psycho girl who like, makes things up in her own brain. But then like seeing Rob and him hugging me and telling me we're good just like makes everything else go away. It's all happening.

[Ronnie Karam]

Baby. I want you to think. Think of it like this. You're a tree in a park and I'm a runner and I see you and then I just pass you by and go on with the rest of my life. Does that make you feel better?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh my God.

[Ronnie Karam]

I got my smile back.

[Ben Mandelker]

Nothing that a turkey sandwich on a croissant can't fix.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Jack sees Brittany. He's like, wow, you were really crazy in there. It's like, yeah, it was really busy. I worked in five or three mile marks in these heels. And then I worked for five hours shifting these heels too. I was so excited about it. Let me just tell you. I was so excited about it.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, your feet are probably really stinky.

[Ronnie Karam]

He's like, you look pretty. So pretty. Give me that money. Give me that cash you made. Give me that tip. Give me that. The tips. And she's like, he's just such a charmer sometimes.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, you look pretty, by the way. And then she tells us. Sometimes I think Jax is just a real charmer.

[Ronnie Karam]

So basically, sh. Go. Give me a Shaw, Jack. Okay, so now we go over to pump. So now James is go. James goes up to Lolly's. You still mad at me, baby? You still mad at me? Come on. Come on, Lawler. She's like, here's the things. I love you very much. You are one of my dearest friends in the world. But if you ever come for my slightly overweight, double chicken breast eating, ass crack of a man again, I will curb stomp the fuck out of you, motherfucker. Do you understand? He's like, come on. I'm sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

Listen, I trust you, okay? And when you talk to someone that way, it makes me not feel safe. Okay? Am I safe in this relationship? Friendship. And he's like, yes, Lola. And you have nothing to be worried about, Lala. You can feel safe with me even though you're a fat slut. And you can tell me anything. And I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. I didn't mean Anything. I just say things sometimes, you know? Look, I'm an idiot, okay? And I'm not allowed to do that to you ever again. I fucked up. But you're also fucking deserved. You're a stupid fucking slut.

[Ronnie Karam]

So they make up. They make up. And he's like, we're gonna chalk it out next time there's something wrong. Completely maturely, it's James and Lola forever. And he's like, I love you. Give me a kiss. And Logan just pops up. He's like, yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, bitch.

[Ronnie Karam]

So we kind of end up happy. But then Kristen is like, ca caw.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ca caw.

[Ronnie Karam]

So I noticed that things were getting happy after Pride, and I was like, fuck straight people. So I called Britney's mom and I was like, get your white out. Get it on your lips and get on a fucking plane. I got a job for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

So Jax and Brittany are at home thinking it's just gonna be a typical afternoon. And he takes really a psychotically large bite of that apple. Like, that really should have been the sign. He like, really? He bit right into the cord. He's like. And she goes, jack, yay. Yikes. You always ate the biggest bite of apples.

[Ronnie Karam]

And Kristen's like, knock off. I got a surprise for you. And in walks Sherry. She's like, ha. Jackson. What have you done to my daughter? And she just see Jax coming behind the door. He's like. And see.

[Ben Mandelker]

And that is better. Bub rules.

[Ronnie Karam]

Thank you very.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thanks, Detroit, for coming out tonight. You guys were awesome. Have a great night. See you on the People Mover.

[Ronnie Karam]

Thank you, Detroit.

[Ben Mandelker]

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