#2920 RHOC S19E01 Part 2: There’s The Golden Door, Shannon Beador! With Amy Phillips

Summary

Watch What Crappens – Episode #2920: RHOC S19E01 Part 2: There’s The Golden Door, Shannon Beador! With Amy Phillips

Release Date: July 11, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Platform: Wondery

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Introduction to the Episode

In this second part of the recap for Real Housewives of Orange County Season 19, Episode 1, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve deeper into the tumultuous lives of the Housewives, focusing particularly on the drama surrounding Shannon Beador. Joined by special guest Amy Phillips, the episode provides an engaging blend of satire, mockery, and insightful commentary on the latest events in the RHOC universe.

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Key Storylines and Discussions

Shannon Beador’s Golden Door Journey

The central plot revolves around Shannon Beador's pursuit of clarity and healing at a place called the Golden Door. Shannon, alongside her assistant Claire, undergoes various activities aimed at personal growth and reconciliation.

• Shannon’s Intentions:

  • [29:47] Shannon: "One of the issues that I've come to the Golden Door for is to get clarity."
  • [30:00] Host: Discusses the luxurious yet unconventional nature of the Golden Door, highlighting its high cost of $12,950 for an eight-day retreat.

• Activities and Confrontations:

  • Tai Chi and Taiko Drumming: Shannon participates enthusiastically in Taiko drumming, showcasing her determination to embrace new experiences.

    • [39:12] Host: Recounts a personal anecdote about struggling with Tai Chi, drawing a parallel to the Housewives' activities.

  • Confronting Tamara: A significant portion of the episode focuses on the escalating tensions between Shannon and Tamara, another key figure in RHOC.

    • [42:32] Tamara: "I have to pay attorney who is very expensive, by the way. And like, if you had ignored it in the first place, we wouldn't have been dealing with this."
    • [44:05] Tamara: "She went to the tire shop and..."

Katie’s Controversial Actions and Accusations

Katie becomes the focal point of intense scrutiny as multiple Housewives accuse her of various misdeeds, leading to a heated confrontation.

• Accusations Against Katie:

  • [35:04] Emily: "She's trying to damage us."
  • [37:20] Host: Highlights the complexity of the situation, emphasizing how Katie's actions have sown discord among the group.

• Katie’s Defense:

  • [56:09] Katie: "She did a great tune," followed by attempts to explain her side of the story.
  • [58:23] Katie: "I don't have any service right now," humorously deflecting her inability to provide evidence for her accusations.

• Group Dynamics:

  • [51:06] Host: Describes Jen’s attempts to maintain calm amidst the chaos.
  • [53:52] Jen: "I had to send a season to sense for invasion of privacy and defamation."

Internal Group Conflicts and Resolutions

The episode also explores the internal conflicts within the Housewives, particularly focusing on loyalty, trust, and the strain of public scrutiny.

• Friendship Troubles:

  • [50:19] Gina: "I'm losing the thread, Gina. You're losing the thread."
  • [54:24] Tamara: "How am I supposed to do it?"

• Attempts at Reconciliation:

  • [48:18] Jen: "I want to invite you all over for hot pot," aiming to mend fences.
  • [56:02] Gina: "We are not gonna do this."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Shannon’s Determination:

  • [29:47] Shannon: "One of the issues that I've come to the Golden Door for is to get clarity."

• Katie’s Evasive Tactics:

  • [58:18] Katie: "I have no service. I'm so sorry."

• Tamara’s Frustration:

  • [35:32] Tamara: "She's trying to damage us."

• Ben’s Personal Anecdote:

  • [41:37] Host: "I did a lot of tai chi back in 1998, and it was like, move slowly. Move your body. And there was just one point I was with all, like, the stoners..."

• Jen’s Calm Amidst Chaos:

  • [51:24] Jen: "I really appreciate it."

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Insights and Conclusions

The episode masterfully captures the essence of RHOC's dramatic flair, emphasizing the intricate web of relationships and conflicts that define the show. Shannon Beador's journey at the Golden Door serves as a microcosm of the Housewives' broader struggles with personal growth and interpersonal dynamics. Meanwhile, Katie's controversial actions and the subsequent fallout highlight the delicate balance between friendship and rivalry within the group.

Amy Phillips' participation adds an extra layer of depth, offering a fresh perspective on the unfolding drama. The hosts skillfully weave humor and critique, ensuring that even listeners unfamiliar with RHOC can grasp the underlying tensions and motivations of the characters.

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Final Thoughts

Watch What Crappens continues to deliver astute and entertaining recaps of Bravo's most-talked-about shows. In this episode, Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam, alongside Amy Phillips, dissect the latest RHOC drama with wit and insight, making it a must-listen for both die-hard fans and casual observers alike.

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Transcript

[Unknown Host]

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[TJ Raphael]

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[Unknown Speaker 1]

Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right back into the episode. So.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I'm doing it myself from now on.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So now we go to a place called Beach Bunny where Jen and Ryan are shopping. I feel like it's not an Orange county season unless people are at some random bathing suit shop.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Beach bunny. 100%. Yeah. And how many people went there that day to get a wedding bikini? They were probably like the 12th person.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. This is like, oh, unfortunately, yeah, unfortunately, we're out of our wedding bikinis. But we do have some wedding one pieces for you.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yes.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Ron and I have an.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Yeah, I really like this with this bathing suit. Thank you so much for your input. I don't think I want to have a bathing suit as a wedding dress. But, like, I'll definitely consider it. Thank you so much.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Thank you. Thank you so much. I love being with you.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

He's like, yeah, you know what I'm gonna wear for my wedding? I'm gonna wear a denim jacket with paint splattered on it. What do you think about that, Ryan?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

You're so hot with your paint splatters and your tan and your. And. And your embezzlement and like all your fraud. Allegedly. And allegedly.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I'm not saying that I'm broke. I'm just saying why don't we have a wedding where I'm in board shorts and you're in bikini and we don't get paper, all that stuff? How about this instead of a wedding cake. We can go to Van Leeuwen's. Actually, scratch that. That's pretty expensive. What about we go to the ice cream counter at Rite Aid and just tell people.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

That's so romantic.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Get it. Get a cone. Get a cone. They have to pay for themselves.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Yeah, babe.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Why don't we just like, get one of those, like, moles and we can make a sandcastle cake on the beach.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

How about this? Instead of a dj, why don't we sit really close? The Good Humor guy, because he's always playing some sick tunes. We could just dance on the beach next to him.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Sick tunes. They are sick. Did somebody say sick tunes? I'm there.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I don't know if you know this, but I sometimes wear red in the presence of music royalty. Drake. And so I'm aware of music tunes that are played on Good Humor Comedy Festival. Is Good Humor a comedy show? I. I was on a Richard Marks. Richard Marks album. I don't know if you remember how it goes, but here, let me sing some of it for you. Here you go. Here comes. I brought a band. Good Humor Guy. Play the backing track, please. By the way, we have to go back to Dr. Jen's, though. Let's appreciate Dr. Jen.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Let's do it. Doesn't even sound like her.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

The best of when I had the bro comes in.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah, she actually sounds good, you know? Well, I mean, in comparison to the other. She sounds like Celine Dion.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

She's really. She's doing a run here.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

How. What did she do with the gravel.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Explanation? And then there's one more building.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

O. I see what you did there, Mr. Marks.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, it's a. It's a. It's a great tune.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Bravo.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It really is a great tune.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I love that. It was so unexpected just then.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I. Yeah. And I like. I like. You know what? When the chorus. When they all sing together, they all don't sing in unison. They sort of like, have. They. Their time is all a little off, you know, it's nice.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

My daughter's rehearsing for a musical right now, and they sound amazing. Compared to what musical? Matilda.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Oh, okay. Very nice, very nice, very nice. I thought it might be like, Hamilton. I was like, that'll be interesting. Second grade production of Hamilton.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah, right. She would love it. She knows some of the words.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So anyway, Jen and Ryan, they're shopping for bikinis and board shorts, and Jen is just still airing out her grievances about Tamara. And she's like. She keeps. This is Jen's thing.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She's like, how was I friends with this woman for so many years and now I'm the target? I mean, we're both targets for her. How does this even happen? How can we go from being friends to being targets? This is the same person that we were friends with, and now we're targets. I don't understand how this would even happen, Ryan.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Speaking of, let's bop over to Target, see if they've got some cheaper suits. Why don't we do that while we're talking?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Speaking of which, I hear we can get some sweet paper plates for the wedding over there.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Sweet.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And Jen's like.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I mean, she's speaking about possibly doing therapy, and she wants to get help for herself.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And he comes in with a pretty good callback because he's like, oh, man, was it good? It was really good. He's like, well, the therapy is fake. She's not doing it for any personal retrospect because the baptism 10 years ago should have had the personal retrospect.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I was like, and who are you, sir? Welcome aboard.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Welcome aboard with the baptism receipts.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

And we got that nice little montage of the dunk. And I'm like, ryan has been watching this show, lying in wait to be a part of this, has he not?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Oh, yeah, that was a great. That was just a great callback right there. It was also, it. It showed the fakery around the baptism. And also, it was also his way of being like, yeah, if you got, like, severe trauma, like, just a little dunk in the pool is not gonna be the thing that fixes it, by the way.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Right.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah, exactly.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

No offense to people who. I mean, it's in the pool to fix it, but.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah, it's a nice tradition, you know?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, I know. I think it's great for the religion. I'm just saying, like, okay, like, you. I dipped in, and now everything's fixed. I'm a new person. It's like, no, you gotta still do the work, right?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

You gotta show up, do the work, and show up. You gotta do the work. You gotta show up. You gotta do the work.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

You know, do the work.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Get away, get away.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Get it. Get.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Get a job.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Get a whack.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Oh, I wish I could do a Vicky voice after all these years. I still can't because it goes in such strange places.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Right? It does. Yeah. Well, it's just. It's just, you know, stepped up dose. Is it all the.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So now we go with. Heather and Emily are having dinner with Heather. Emily and Tamara are having dinner at a place called Oliver's Triumph or Ta da.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Emily's like, hi. And she says, like, how was your birthday? Oh, speaking of birthdays, I have something for you.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

She's like, oh, you don't have to.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Do anything for me. That's okay. It's more like you'll be doing something for me. It's a contract to have you be my new maid. Do you accept?

[Unknown Speaker 4]

How much does it pay?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

No, it's actually a handkerchief that I got monogrammed for you. And I got you this handkerchief so that way you wouldn't complain that it was a different size than everyone else's handkerchief. Enjoy.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Is it monogram with your monogram because you like to monogram things. Hey, waiter.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

She likes to monogram things.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

She monogram hd.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. That's funny. I can laugh at myself. One moment. I am taking a phone call with an assistant. Remove the monogram from the handkerchief. Thank you. She doesn't want to see the hd.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Send a drone with a laser and undo the monogram.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Oh, there goes that plane again. So. So Heather's like asking about the kids and everything, and she's like, well, you know, Max is in Paris and she has a cat. And I'm sorry, no, Max. I don't know who it is, but Max has a. Max has a cat in Paris and the cat has a beret.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

That was amazing. That was definitely a needed moment because I was like, they fucking showed that picture of that cat in a beret and I lost it. I was like, I loved it.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I love. I was so happy for that cat because, you know, it was like a $10,000 beret.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yes, it looks so good.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

In was like a perfect cat beret.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

And the perfect color. It was like a gray cat with the pop of red. I mean, damn.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It was like that cat was starring in the cat version of Emily in Paris. In that moment. It was like working at a fashion shop. So em. Meow in Paris.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Terry, let's do a spin off on.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

E. Oh, I could play Emily. I don't think I've aged out of that category yet. I will. Here, picture it. I'm a 32 year old something. A fashionista, if you will, in Paris. I've just arrived on the recommendation of my neighbor Drake, who says, you gotta go to Paris. Bring me back some inspiration from my next album EP release. It's something called a make fun of track.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

So that's why I'm here, Make fun of track. Oh, my God, I'm crying.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Okay. What are they even talking about here. So Emily's like, oh, Tamara, your face looks good.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She goes, my face?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

My face?

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Yeah, it looks good. What have you been doing?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Crying.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Crying in therapy.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Just.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Bad news, everyone. I'm not in the spectrum anymore.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Bad news.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So Katie is like, I'm sorry.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Tamara's like, I'm getting soft because guess what? I went to dinner with Katie. She wanted to go to the Quiet Woman.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Of course she wants to go to Quiet Woman. Hashtag fan. Am I right, everyone?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

God, does anything ever good happen at the Quiet Woman? This is why I only go to Spago and places for other celebrities that Wendy Malek can't get into anymore. So Tamara's like, well, I haven't talked.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

To Katie in a while. So she says, why did you block me from Instagrams? So I said, do you know? You don't know why I blocked you? Because there was a content creator that was putting out stories that ran all these troll accounts. So I went onto Instagram and I said, what are you saying? What you're saying is a lie. And you will hear from my attorney. My attorney happens to be my son, who's also a cowboy rancher, but whatever.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

So Katie.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

He's trying to find himself still. So Katie reached out to the girl, and then when I accused her of calling this blogger to console her for attacking me, I caught her in lie.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

So I caught her in lie. Talk it, man. I caught her in lie.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I caught her in lie. It's like hospital in Europe.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

You know how they say I went to hospital?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Hospital, yeah, totally. Tamara's like, I caught her and lie. I caught her lot.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

It's hard to trainers. I'm Scottish now.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So. Amy, can you break this down a little bit here? This is a very convoluted thing, but what Tamra's alleging that Katie did. Can you just explain to the audience a little bit what's. What's happening?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Sure, absolutely. So basically, Tamara is upset because Katie blocked her. That's because. Because there was. There was somebody.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

A content creator blogger.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

That, like, went out there and put all this stuff about. About Katie and. Oh, no, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. See you now making it worse. It was about Tamara. But so then Tamra got upset and was really, really pissed and went after this blogger. Right? So she was, like, messaging her, like, I can't believe you're doing this. I thought we were cool batch. And then. So Katie called this blogger over the. Over Instagram. You know how you can call people?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

And so. And now she's saying, well, I didn't call this blogger. This blogger called me and was like, oh, no, Tamara's coming after me. And what. The real truth, I believe, is that this. That Katie did call this blogger and was like, I'm so sorry Tamara's doing this to you. Like, was trying to empathize with her. And furthermore, I pretty sure I know the name of the blogger because they put a story up the other day saying before the premiere, you should know that Katie did call me, and I have the receipts to prove it. Should I say the name of the blogger? Yeah, it's Bravo Babe.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Oh, yeah, I could see that on screen. By the way, I forgot to mention they blurted out very poorly. I looked at it. I was like, that says Bravo, Babe. Yeah, so there you go.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

So shout out. I love her.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I forgot. I forgot not to take away thunder from that, but it was just like, yeah, they put that right out there. But by the way, I love it's. I'm always so proud when our fellow content creators wind up, like, in the. In the mess. I don't think we should go out of our way to create mess to be on the show. I just think it's funny when they're. The housewives are so messy like that, then all of a sudden, one of us gets, like, thrown into it, like, yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

And they.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Bravo Babe said this, right?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. I trust Bravo Babe.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I do too. She has the receipts. It shows. She did a screenshot, and it shows that Katie called her.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. So in summary, what we have so far in the episode is we have a disgruntled nanny who reached out to Katie and was like, I'm going to back up your story. And Katie said, well, that's crazy. Well, my daughter was just on this podcast, and this is the name of the podcast. Godspeed. And so there's one thing there. And then we have a situation where Bravo Babe had claimed that Tamara created a whole bunch of fake troll accounts. And Tamara's like, no, that didn't happen. And then Katie called Bravo Babe to con to console her. For Tamara.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yes. Thank you. You did it. I. I forgot the troll. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Wow.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

You got it.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It's very messy.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I know.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Messy. I was having a very hard time following it when I was watching. I was like, wait.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

But it is so hard.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It's two separate content creator issues happening, but they're both with Katie in the middle.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Right, Good point. So who is the common denominator here? Interesting.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I don't know. I mean, I'M still. I'm still team Katie. But I have a feeling. Yes, it's. I have a feeling she's gonna.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

She's a real shit stirrer. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I feel like she's gonna be in trouble. I feel like she's. You know, sometimes when this happens, you're.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Like, oh, fuck that person.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

They're a liar. And then sometimes you just watch it. Like you're watching, like, Larry David. You're like, oh, you just got yourself into a pickle and we're gonna watch you get out of it. And I'm sort of in that. That's my mindset with Katie.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Like, yeah, I'm into watching this unravel.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, you're new and you've messed up, and now we're gonna watch you suffer as Heather Dubrow sharpens her knives.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yes, right. Exactly.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Speaking of which, Heather's like, why is she trying to hurt everyone?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And Tamara's like, she's always. She's always got an excuse for everything.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I'm like, says Tamara, who's like, I'm.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

So sorry, Jen, for lashing out at you. It turns out that when I see certain types of doorknobs and the sun hits them in certain ways, I get very.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I get very triggered and reminded of the past.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

The thing is, I lashed out because on my way here, I passed like four gems and we closed our jump. I closed cut, and I was just upset about the business and, like, I just laughed out because I was mad.

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[Unknown Speaker 4]

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[Unknown Speaker 3]

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[Unknown Speaker 1]

So then. Then, basically, you know, they're like, yeah, she's terrible.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She's the worst, by the way.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And Heather, I'm sorry. Emily goes, yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

And also, by the way, Jen. Jen said that Katie's a con artist.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Oh, a con artist. She told you that? Can we weaponize it?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Can we use it?

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Yes, she told Gina.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And so now this is gonna be a whole big thing, which is like, wow, it's so bad that not even Jen likes Katie.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I know. That's supposed to be her friend. Mm.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So now Emily and Gina go to meet Katie for coffee because it's supposed to be Gina and Katie, but Emily's there because. Why not? Why not? Ambush, right?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So Gina. Gina is driving along like she's in a. She's in some movie where she is, like. Like a mother wronged, and she's going to the school to go yell at the principal.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

She's like, oh, my God, you're so right.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

She is scorned.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She's like, what you did to my son. What you did is unforgivable.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

She's just driving with a scowl on her face. She's all bundled up for some reason. She's got, like, feather around.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Her hair is flying. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Bleach, blonde roots. And then she's got this dark makeup.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I mean, she looks a vendetta. Yes.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It's coming like she's, like, in a Pedro Almodovar movie or something. So she's driving furiously, and then she has Emily. She picked up Emily. And this is actually. I'm, like, laughing at the way the scene starts. But then it does not become a laughing scene because now Emily is sharing that the therapist is now saying that there's a chance that Luke may be on the spectrum after all the spectrum talk. That his eating disorder is very common with autism. So now he's got to do lots of intensive testing, and they've got to just like, you know, she's like, a mess. Like, she's really distraught by this, mainly because I don't think that she's, like, crying that her son might have autism. I think she's crying that she feels like she missed the signs and feels incredibly guilt, which I feel like she should. She should not feel guilty about that at all whatsoever.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And he's been thriving, you know, I mean, some of these conditions don't really show up right away, and sometimes you don't know if it's an actual pattern, especially with a child who. Every child is a picky eater.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

So you really.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

This is. You gotta play the long game with this. You just don't know.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, exactly. And Gina is actually a really good friend right here because she. She's talking about how her. Her daughter has, like, sensory issues, I believe. And that, like, she was like. Gina was shocked that a professional, like a teacher, was like, by the way, I think your daughter has some sensory issues. And Gina was like. Like she felt bad that she didn't notice it. Now, to be fair, Gina not noticing something is not the wildest thing in the world. Let's be honest. But in this case, as a mother, like, all jokes aside, like, like, I thought that. I thought it was, like, I thought she was, like, such a good friend to Emily in that moment, being like, look, I've been there. Don't feel guilty. Get you through this together, you know?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Absolutely. A really good friend. And also, Gina was going through a pretty horrific time in her marriage at that point.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, I literally thought you were gonna say, also, Gina was driving through a stop sign at that moment. You gotta get the coffee.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Right.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So. But anyway, it's, you know, like, I felt really bad for Emily that she was. She was being so hard on herself in that moment. I think she needs to give herself some more grace.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Absolutely.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So now we have. Shannon is going to be. She. She's getting this golden door get together ready? So she's getting. Shannon has an assistant named Claire.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And Shannon's like, well, I will tell you one thing, Claire. First of all, I thought you were the Claire, but apparently you were not related to the store in the mall. So thanks for the misleading name. I was about to brag that my team is full of intrepid millionaires. That's fine. But I'll tell you one thing, I'm not going to do Today is a sound bath because I had a bowl in my head and someone took a mallet and whacked me.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And then we have a flashback to that amazing scene with Kelly Bob.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Oh, my God. That was. Now that was it. Was that the same.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

That was Mirrorball.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

That was Mirror Ball. Okay. That was Mirror Ball. That was Mirror hit song.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It's also where Rachel, AKA Raquel, went to heal from Scandival. It was Miraval.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Well, that's right. Kelly knocked her on the head, too, with the bull. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Kelly was waiting.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

We're waiting here for a long time. I don't believe you put that bull in your head.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So she declares. So they're packing up and everything, and.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Tamara's like, I'm a little bit nervous about even going to this. I'm not going to beg for someone's friendship, but it's just amazing and how she can throw friendships away like that. I just don't understand how she could be so heartless.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Talking about Shannon, of course. And of course, Eddie is there with his typical Eddie advice, like, have you even met her? She's not even a real friend. Thanks, Eddie.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I hear this. I'm like, is there a gas leak? It's like. It's a low whistle. Like, what is that noise? Like, what is that? With.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Somebody leave that sound burner on.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Like, what is happening? Is that. Is my sound machine on from last night?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

What the smoke alarm starts to have, by the way, Four beeps on the smoke alarm. We had a gas. We had a. We literally had a carbon monoxide leave here. Like, oh, really? Yes. And for the. Just so you know, psa, if you're. If your detector gives four beeps and not like any other number, four beeps means carbon monoxide. So that's important because if you hear it and you're like, why won't my. Why won't my detector go off? It's broken. Don't take your detector off and be like, it's broken. If you hear the four beeps, go outside. That's the PSA from an exciting carbon monoxide experience that we had.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Oh, my gosh, Ben. That's crazy.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

That's scary. Yeah, that's really crazy. It's very, very. It was, like, very, very scary. But that does not take away from the fact that there may be a slow leak also happening with Eddie, because he's.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

It's like a deflating balloon, you know.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It'S just like, maybe he's the one that's leaking. So.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Eddie, what did you say?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So Shannon arrives At the Golden Door?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

No, there is just some magical energy at this place. I mean, all you can eat mashed potatoes and green peas.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

No.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I keep on getting myself confused about.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Where we actually are.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Well, either way, it's the intentions you set when you walk through the doors. I mean, it's $12,950 for every eight days. But I come out as a better person. I come out as a person who has to say they're a better person because they just spent $12,000. If they don't say they're a better person, then what are you doing with your money? Am I right? Oh, God.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

John Jansen sent me here four times, and. And.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

And.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

And I came back a better person every time. It's his fault.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I. I hear that Julia Roberts comes here. Susan Sarandon, Oprah Winfrey. Elizabeth Taylor comes here from time to time. She's dead, but I hear that she haunts these halls like Gina does at an autozone.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Boo.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

There are so many luminaries that have been here. I hear that Sissy Spacek, maybe the older sister from Mr. Belvedere, has been known to visit Roberts back in the day. Another rip Cokey, everyone.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So. So Gina and Gina, Heather and Tamara arrive. Tamara is really upset because the news has just broken about Teddy Mellencamp and her brain cancer. So, like, there's heavy swirling around this episode.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

So, yeah, this was crazy, because it was like Tamara was already upset. And so when we first saw her in that therapy session, I thought she was crying about Teddy.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Same.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Oh, you did?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Okay, I thought so, too, but then I. But then I don't think it was about Teddy. I think she was crying just right. It was just Tamara cry. It was.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah, it took. It kind of. I mean, he just sort of took away from the, you know, intensity of what we all, you know, found out. And, I mean, that's, like, her best friend. It was just horrific. And I. You know, we all knew what they were shooting at that time, and she left, was like, you'll never see my face again. And then, like, came back. But, yeah, this was. It's horrific and. And horrible and terrible and, yeah, a.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Lot of heavy things. And Shannon, meanwhile, was gearing up to have a whole big confrontation with Tamara.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She literally was like, I'm gonna say something to her. We are gonna walk through that golden door, and I will say something, and I will. I have it all written here on my. On my telephone. And then she's like, oh, I guess I can't say anything right now anyway.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Because she literally Was like, yeah, I was gonna say something, but I'm gonna have compassion. So.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah, put to the side. Smart, smart. Good, good.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, yeah. So Shannon says, one of the issues.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

That I've come to the Golden Door for is to get clarity. So as I think people, when they see Shannon Bedor, they say, look at that person who's thinking clearly at all times. That's because that's the golden door at work.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

That's the magic that.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

That, that's what happens. You go in a mess, you come out. Just. Just a clean spir.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

They are so nice here. And I did check and it looks like the. The woman who greeted us at the door will not be trying to set us up with some middle aged men. So I had an issue at the last hotel I stayed with. Very, very over involved valet named Joel Kim Brewster.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I promise I won't get into a fight with the person in charge here.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

By the way, I also thought the woman, I think her name was like Kimberly or something, she kept on greeting.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

People like, welcome to the golden door.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And she said it the exact same way that they put up three of her at one point.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And it was like, welcome, welcome, welcome to the Golden Door. Golden door.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It was like all the exact same way. Like a robot.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Totally. She's just an AI like, you see through her.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It's a hologram.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah, that's what it is. I couldn't think of what it. Like, what is that?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

No, made from AI. An AI Hologram. Okay, so Emily is there and she is really upset still about. She's upset about Katie because Gina's like.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I'm telling you, I don't trust this girl in a wall.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Because by the way, they didn't like. Did we just skip. By the way, did I just like skip completely over their whole. Their whole coffee? I feel like we talked about them going to coffee, but we didn't actually talk about them in the coffee scene. I just. Okay, rewind, rewind. This coffee scene was important. And I feel like I'm trying to.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Think when Emily and Gina and wait, who was at coffee?

[Unknown Speaker 4]

We talked.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It was Emily, Gina and Katie. And we talked about them going to coffee. And then we started talking about like the news about the autism. And then we forgot there was a.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

There was a full petty scene that we just.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

A centerpiece scene that we just. We missed. Well, guess what, everyone? We're going back. We're going back into the trenches.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

You guys get back in that car because we're going back where we're going.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

They don't need any roads going into DeLorean. Going back in times.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

How are you guys?

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I mean, I'm all right. Like, I'm fine, but, yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Now, please go on.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Please go on. Please go on.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I mean, I'm here for my friend. She's upset. I mean, for me, this kind of, like, everything happened with you last year. I lost a lot of trust with you, and I reach out to you, and you picked me up, picked out the phone, and I called you, my best friend, Jan, and a couple of conversations where Jen was questioning your motives, your behavior. She didn't think that things added up with you. And I don't trust you. And now I don't trust you. And Jen said you're a canary. That's not my word. That's Jean's word.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I just remember you saying we have to move on, and we all talk about each other and we all do these things. So that's what I was doing.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I was just moving.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

It's fine. But we don't. We don't all talk to our bloggers. There's a difference.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, because of your ex nanny who came to me. Is that. Is that why? Also, I just want to just highlight again that Tamara is one of the podcasters and bloggers that we don't talk to. Okay, continue on. I should have ignored her, but you know what?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I was pissed.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

That's why I did that.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Oh, I'm mad.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Okay, well, you just knocked over my coffee with your anger. If.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

If you're pissed with me, then deal with me. You don't think I haven't gone to a reunion and been pissing her for two years? I had to deal with people coming after my husband into my marriage. Okay, get in line.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I've never been on a reality show.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

You were just on the season. You're lying right now.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Well, I've never. My name is not Katie. I don't. I don't. I'm just trying to do the best I can and.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Wait a second. Is your phone on?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Are you.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Are you on speakerphone with someone? Who are you calling right now?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I'm calling someone from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Is that wrong?

[Unknown Speaker 4]

No, you're not. That's a lie. Wait, let me look at that. This is. Wait a second. Drama Darling with Amy Phillips. What the fuck are you doing?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

She has an amazing podcast, and she's my best friend. She reached out to me, and so now we're really good friends. She's not just a podcaster. I guess I shouldn't talk to her.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

You know, I said these things to your face.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Okay, well, you know what? You could apologize for going into her past. Emily. I think that will be a good start.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So why don't you go.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

I'm sorry.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Okay? Because that's not. It wasn't nice of you to do that, Emily. Okay. And Katie, you could apologize for being an evil, mean who's trying to destroy all of us. Okay, Katie.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Okay, I'm hearing that. I'm sorry, and I probably could have done something different for my storyline. Thank you.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Well, I appreciate the apology, but I don't have any trust in you, and I will not be hugging you at this coffee shop. Thank you very much.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yay.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yay. Oh, we fixed it. We fixed the timeline, everyone. It's all fixed.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

So now, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Now we go all the way back to the Golden Door. And after, even though they've had this very productive coffee where Emily apologized for the reunion and Katie kind of apologized, Emily is still not happy.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Cause you know what? Behind closed doors, she's on the phone all the time trying to damage us. She's trying to damage us.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Damage us.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

As if Emily has not been shady and dirty with all these things before in the past as well. I mean, this is. I mean, right?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah, it is. It's the. It's the pot calling the kettle black, for sure.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. So she's like, I made a list of all the things that Katie has done.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

She lied about the paparazzi photo. Heather's nubbing her at a party. She. She lied that she owned a home, her own in San Diego. A conversation she had with Gina where she said that Gina talked badly about Heather. She lied about that she and her daughter both lied about the things that my sub. My boys never did or said. Whatever. She also said she had a Quiznos card that was three quarters full. But guess what? There's not a Quiznos in the state of Lower South Carolina. I mean, South Carolina, California. Warren Carolina. I know where they all are. Quiz. No. Warlike quiz. Yes. I know all the dirty truth. That was a stretch. I apologize.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

No, that was a good one.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I wasn't aware that we were going.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

To be having a pop quiz today.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

No quiz. No, it's different.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I'm more of a Jimmy John's kind.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Of G.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I would say I'm a Jersey Mics, but I'm from Long Island.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

No, I don't. You're losing the thread, Gina. You're losing the thread.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Heather's like, is there any Sage around or should I bring some from the giant mansion that I bought and tore down for no reason in front of Drake? I just have that much money to do that.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Actually, I turned this asbestos into a bundle of sage. We just have to burn it and stay far, far away from it.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I brought everyone a monogrammed hazmat suit. Put it on over there in the bushes. It's gonna take a while for the asbestos to burn. It's kind of one of its qualities, but, you know, so Shannon's like, ahem, I am.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Ahem. I am. Hear ye, hear ye, all ye who are not at the love hotel. I am so happy that we are all here. Well, I'm really mainly happy that I'm here. I'm not so happy that Tamara's here because I know that some of us have had some issues. But for me, I always come here to this place. It's a healed space. So my intention for today is to heal from all the damage that Tamara has caused me in my life. Okay. Does anyone else. Has anyone else been hurt by Tamara? No.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I have. I have. I came here. Also me. Thank you. Me.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I'm going to take it over to.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I. I've been.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I've been heard.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I had a list.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Emily, you didn't tell me you were going to be doing a list.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I love lists. I have my list of my own.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Of all the things that Tamara has.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

Done and I was planning on using it, but I guess I can't now.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Because now it's not appropriate. All right.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Okay, back to me. Thanks. Thanks for that update me. Just want to say on behalf of me and my other me, a few of us are going to be doing taiko drumming and we are going to make sure that all the mallets are away from the heads and the skulls. Okay, Just want to just confirm that. And other people are going to go to the yoga studio and do tai chi. So if you thought you're going to the yoga studio to do yoga, guess what? You've been Tai chi'd. You do Tai chi. So for drumming, we're gonna have Katie, Emily, Jen and I. And then the rest of you suckers, as I call it, are gonna do tai chi. Have fun doing non yoga tai chi up there. Okay? Great job, golden door.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Can I please sing the Richard Mark song again while you're playing the drums? No, this is about me. It's my time to do a drum solo.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I love it.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I love rock and roll.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Unfortunately, Heather, you will be in a Beatless room doing tai chi, which Makes sense, because that's about as good as you dance. All right, you can sing up there.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Acapella.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

How dare you.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

All right, well, I do whatever I want, whenever I want, with no explanation. But in this case, I will agree to the tai chi. So now they have. It's, like, activity time. So the tai chi people go upstairs to do tai chi. The drum people go down to do drumming, and Shannon really gets into the. Into the drumming. She is like, wow, she is.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

She's like Animal from the Muppets.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I mean, it's too bad the Blue man group has closed, because she would be perfect for that gig.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I do often feel blue.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

Claire, can you get your pain out? I'm ready to go.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

All right, Claire, I've been practicing, and I'm ready to drum some blue. Paint on a drum. So paint me, Claire. Do me.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So they do their tai chi and everything. I have flashbacks. Freshman year of college, we actually had a PE Requirement, and so I signed up for a tai chi because I thought it was martial arts, but it was actually just this. It was like, literally balance the cup and move the ball. And I did this for, like, 10 weeks of my life. Every.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Wow.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It was, like, twice a week. I had to go to tai chi class, and I hated it.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Oh, my gosh.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I did a lot of tai chi back in 1998, and it was like, move slowly. Move your body. And there was just one point I was with all, like, the stoners, and, like, this was, like, the stoner class. People who were like, you know, they were just stone.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Just taking mushrooms before the class.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. And then there was me. And I just remember one point, we were all walking in this giant circle and just going slowly, and I was like, what am I doing here? What this is. How did my life turn out this way? And it was worth it. Just so I could have an anecdote during the tai chi scene on Real Housewives of Orange County. 20 years later.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Thank God, Ben, it all comes full circle. Did you gain anything? Did you gain anything from it, though? I mean, was there. I mean, you must be really good at it.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

What I learned from tai chi is that I don't know if I can trust Katie.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

What is your rose and thorn about tai chi? That's so funny.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So anyway, Tamra is. They're doing all this stuff, and then, of course, as is per the tradition of doing a wacky activity on a reality show, you sit down afterwards, you make sure the person who taught you these things goes to a faraway room, and then you Talk shit about your castmates. So Katie is like, jen, how do.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

You feel about seeing Tamara?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And Jen's like, well, I feel.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Whatever. Thanks so much for asking. Thank you.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I really appreciate it. And then Tamara is. We're cutting back and forth, and so Tamara is like, what is she so angry about? Because.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Oh, because I said, how is the FBI doing? Because I said the FBI are coming. Because I said that Ryan's embezzling, that I said he should go to jail. That I called, like, the tip line and said, FBI, why aren't you at this house yet? Cameras are here waiting for your raids. God, why is she overreacting?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I don't get it. It's, like, disgusting how she's putting this on me. It's like, what did I do? What I just got? And tell everybody that my company made way more than he even made when he's still not even that basketball player. Like, it's so. Like, what did I say? Did I say something red?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Like, what did I say? Something rude? Oh, I guess they're just going to sue me now, because that's what they do. They're just, like, poor people trying to make an easy buck off of people like me so they can pay for their bikini weddings. I guess that's what it is. Can't embezzle from the baseball player anymore. Got to embezzle from the person who used to own a gym now. Person.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

So that's. I guess. I guess that's me. Welcome me. Hello, my name is somebody who's gonna get sued by them.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So, yeah, Tamara's trying to paint them as, like, this litigious couple. And Jen's like.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I mean, you know, I know. She's, like, on some tie.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

She goes.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She's on some sort of tyrant. She's on some tyrant lately where she's saying that we're a Sue happy couple.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

She's on some sort of tyranna. Tyrannosaurus rex right now. I don't know, like, what's happening.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She went on the Tyra Banks show, and she's, like, saying that we're sue happy.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

She's like. She's like. She's. She's. She's ordering a tyranny. A tyranny situation.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She, like, went to, like, the capital.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Of Albania, which, as we all know, is Tirania, and was like, what's going.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

On with this super happy couple?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I can't think of another one.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Not a lot of tire. Tirade. Tirade.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Tirade is.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Oh, my God. She, like, went. She, like, went to, like, the tire. She went to the tire shop and.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Was like, tire shop?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She went. She's like, can I make some lemonade out of these tires? Can I call it tirade? And they said, no.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

She said, well, good, because I probably.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Get sued because Ryan and I are apparently, like, sue happy. I don't know.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

Jen, if you at the tire aid, can you please fill my tires up with air, because they really need them. Chen.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah, I'll see Ryan do that. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I mean, as long as you are as. Maybe I should talk to Tamara, because if she has some sort of in with a tire merchant, then maybe I.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Could get that air. There's a lot of.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

There's a very bumpy ride over here.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

If you're gonna get air. I could use the wind because it really breathes life into me.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

You are, you are. You are. I don't know if I'm Gina or Shannon right now. All I know is that the golden door is. The golden door is golden Doring.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

It is.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

You are the wind beneath my wings. And I feel bad.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Did you ever know that you're my hero? That's what I used to sing in.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

When I'd go to Quiznos.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Every time that paper I pay for.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

That foot long it get into my hands.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I say, you're my hero now.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

And then I was like, do you make heroes here? Can I have a Mediterranean hero?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Have you ever eaten your hero? They said, don't meet your hero, but whatever.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Don't eat your hero.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

And also, don't live with your hero and all their little heroes. And then don't leave and break up a blended family and then get back together.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Hi, Gina. I don't know if you're haunting us right now, but could you please return to immortal vessel, because we have to have a group scene now. Okay, great.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So they all get together.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I am here.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Whoopi Goldberg is there. Just.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

You're in danger, girl.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So they all get together for the big group scene that's going to end the scene. And they're making small talk about their activities, and I like that they're all there.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And Gina's saying, yeah, we did some tai chi. We really. We harnessed the moon. And I'm. I feel bad because I brought the moon to Earth.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I don't think it wants to be here anymore.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I feel so bad because the gravitational pull is gonna suck.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I'm sorry about the waves.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

The waves are gonna be a mess.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Oh, no, I can't go boating.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I, I, I, I, I. Earl, get off the Waters.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Just when I was about to try boating on a lake, so.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So Heather's like, emily, did you feel calmer after you did your tai chi? Did you feel calmer about that?

[Unknown Speaker 4]

And I was like, yeah, now I only want to kill maybe two people.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

So, girls, ladies, I just want to.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Say that I'm going to host a lunch on Friday. I feel like last year, I didn't. You know, I haven't gotten to know everyone very well, and you guys didn't get to know me very well, and there's a lot of things that are getting clouding, you know, that are clouding us. So I just want to invite you all over for hot pot with some of my new friends who are bringing perhaps a zoom recorder and a microphone or two.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

My new friends.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Are those bloggers.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Well, they're friends first. Friends firsts. Friends first. Then content creators.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

Are they podcasters?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Well, they are, but they also love hot pot, so I just felt like it would be rude not to invite them to the hot pot. I'm not sure if I understand what that question is, but I'm just gonna say yes. Oh, my God. I just got a sub.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I got a stack of subs for Travis.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Subs.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

The heroes, technically. I liked that when Jen said, I want to invite you all over for hot pot. There was, like, a moment of, like, one of them was like, like, yeah. They didn't trust it, right?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

She had to say it twice. She was like, dinner. Can you guys come to my house for dinner? Am I inviting dinner?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I think one of them didn't understand.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Like, why are we gonna go and.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Like, look at a pot that's hot?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Right? They didn't understand what that was. Right?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

They thought they were just gonna be getting, like, a Dutch oven that was, like, on. On a burner for a long time.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Right, right, right. Y. Totally.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So now it's like, okay, let's stop fighting.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

So Gina's like, you know, I think the problem is these things that you're doing within the group. It feels like you're all.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

You're trying to hurt all of us, you know? Yes. You have to stop with the bloggers, okay? We do not deal with bloggers. We deal with very famous Canadian rappers. That is okay. Bloggers. No, I mean, who are we? Wendy Malik. Am I right? High five. High five. Anyone? Anyone?

[Unknown Speaker 4]

I'll give it to you.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Thank you. Okay, that hurt. That was a bit aggressive.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

I'm only gonna kill two people, and.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

You'Re one of them. Okay, well, you're. You're. You. You have to let go of my hand. Part of the high five. You don't clasp on after you get the high five. No, this is hurting. My bones are brittle. My bones are brittle. No, I. I just developed a secret handshake with Drake. You can't do this to me. Drake, I'm terribly sorry. I can no longer do our secret handshake. Please promise to keep it up while. While I heal so we don't forget it.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Claire, we're gonna need some ace bandages for Heather's wrists.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Claire, I'm just getting no reception.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So. So they're all coming down on. On Katie.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Katie's like.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I mean, she's like, I. I asked Jen if she called me a con artist, and she never called me a con artist. And Jen's. Jen has this really amazing work, mental workaround about how she is, like, okay with all this, right? Yeah, she's just sort of like. How would you say. How would you say that, Jen?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Like, she's like, yeah, I mean. I mean, everyone gets mad about Katie. But, like, you know, you ask her, like, what'd you do today? And she's like, you know, I had.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Dinner with the Obamas.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And. And you just say, okay, like, you know, it's sort of, like, not true, but you just sort of accept it. Right. These are not catastrophic things.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah. It's not like a big deal. It's not like she's lying about people's lives or children or, you know, anything that's important to us. It's just, you know, just little things here and there that you just let it just pass on by, you know, like the waves. Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She says, like, you know, if you say, do you talk to bloggers? She says, no, but that's because she thinks the bloggers are her friends. So she's, you know, that's. That's all. And so I just. I ask her questions and she gives me answers. I just leave it at that. It's kind of like with Ryan. I'm like, hey, so, you know, you know how we're like. You know how we're not able to afford that second box of Cheerios? Why do we have the honeymoon sweetened at the Bellagio?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Well, because it was just a. It was available so that. Based on availability.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Okay. And I just. I just accept that. I accept it. It's a good response. I don't need to. No further questions, your honor.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

No further questions. It's so true. She really does. She just turns that blind eye and just keeps on walking.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

She does. Which is why it's funny when she's.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Like, how is it that all these years we were friends with this person and now we're a target?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It's because you've put your blinders on, right? And it was like very like, it's like obvious to everyone who knows Tamara, like, watch out for this lady.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And she's like, oh, well, thank you so much, Tamara. You're so wonderful. Thank you, thank you.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

And now all of a sudden, she's accusing Tamara of trying to get with Ryan. And cut.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Yeah, she's like, I mean, for years and years, Tamara was that person who would like go to Ryan's house and be like, oh, look, I'm in hot guy's house. I'm in whoever winds up marrying this guy is the luckiest woman alive house. And like, should I go upstairs and take one for the team? You know, because he's so sexy and he's like a really hot guy and he probably would totally not have a bathing suit wedding guy, right?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

She loves telling the story about like how they are all like salivating. Like it's a very self serving story. Remember the day when we used to like go over because he was so hot? Like, he's such a hot guy.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

So hot.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Whoever, whoever winds up with him is so lucky because he's so hot. Remember he had shoots out. We talked about that.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Oh my God. And yes, yes.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And still, still, he does have a good body. But Heather is like, basically Jen is like, listen, you just like, it's not that big of a deal. And I was like, Emily's like, no.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

What are you talking about? I hired an attorney, okay? I had to send a season to sense for invasion of privacy and defamation. And I have to pay attorney who is very expensive, by the way. And like, if you had ignored it in the first place, we wouldn't have been dealing with this. Like, how am I supposed to be. I've got to do how am I supposed to be with an attorney how to deal with this? Then I gotta sit with you and be like, how's your life going?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Okay, we're at Golden Door.

[Unknown Speaker 4]

How am I supposed to do it?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Katie doesn't even say anything for like five minutes.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Everyone's like, oh, God.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Well, I for one am uncomfortable when I see a bunch of people going after one person. Okay?

[Unknown Speaker 6]

So.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And well, nobody is going after anybody, okay? Because after the reunion it was very clear. No more digging up information. Apparently we only dig up the tiles in my mansion that I destroyed for no reason. But it happened, it happened again. Okay? It's like every time Wendy Malik somehow lands a role and not me, I say, well, it happened again.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Just when you think it's never gonna happen again, it happens again. So can this please just not happen again? Wendy, casting directors, please, Please, I'm begging you.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I am begging you. I am a good actress, okay? I live next to Drake. You have to put me in a role. Anything. Flo's got to take a break once in a while, right? I could do insurance. I could do that. I could be goofy. I could wear white. I could wear a headband. Put me in coach. I don't want to do that role at all.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I definitely don't want to wear white. I don't even know what that is.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I don't even understand what progressive even means. An insurance. Who is Flo?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I was just doing lines from a scene just to show my talent.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I have a script writer that just gives me new pages every five minutes.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It's also my maid. It's very handy having these two people. Well, it's one person doing two jobs, but I call them two people sometimes. I say, now, you are a screenwriter. Write me a scene.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Are people still here?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Are people still listening to me? So basically, she's like, yeah, we're not gonna do this. And then you did this.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And Tama's like, yeah, now this girl's attacking me on social media. And she said that you and Matt called her.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I'm like, it's Bravo, babe. Okay? Like, it's not the biggest. It's like, it's a.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

It's an Instagram account.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Like, this is. This is not. Like, you were so much bigger than Bravo, babe. Why are you. Why are you concerned about what Bravo babe is saying? Right?

[Unknown Speaker 3]

It's wild. They just. They think that. I mean, things spread like wildfire.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

So they. They know that the kindling starts with one account, and then the next thing you know, it's on Queens of Bravo.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. Next thing you know. So Katie's like, look, I told Tamara I want to prove to her. I want to prove to you that I did not call this blogger, podcaster, Instagram person, and like, okay, well, show us.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Show us.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Well, unfortunately, I'm still using my Sprint PCs phone from 2008, and I'm just not getting any service.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

They were giving them away at the golf tournament. The garbage. The. The garbage people. They found a bunch of phones in the garbage, and they use them for giveaways. So I just have a plethora of old phones that I just feel like it's important to use. I'm being green.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

They. They have a. Yes, being very green. And they have a booth at the Garbage Invitational called Hidden Treasures of Phoenix. And you can just. You just take what you want. And I took this phone, and I liked it a lot.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

It's.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It was from someone.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

Clear it up, Katie. Clear it up. Open up your phone.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I just. I don't have any service. I'm so sorry. I don't know what to tell you. Hold on, let me try to. Nope. Oh, yes, it does appear like I have service. This is screenshot of Instagram. It's not an actual. I'm not. Actually, I don't have service.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I have full bars. Full bars.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So I have. Even though it looks like I've got four bars on my screen, Kaylee drew those on there as a. Just that way I wouldn't feel out of the loop with my phone. So I actually have no service right now.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Katie drew them on there.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I have no bars. I'm sorry. I'm, I'm. I'm terribly sorry. I just can't look anything up.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

There's just no bars. I just don't have any bars. Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Shannon tries to help her out.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

She's like, well, to be fair, I. After, after $12,000 in eight days, it turns out I had no service. I had to use a landline. Now, to be fair, it turns out the cell phone that I had brought in was a kind bar, so that didn't help.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

And to be fair, I turned off.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I put it on airplane mode.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

So to be fair, I did not.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Have a signal either. So.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And to be fair, the landline was.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Me going down to the earth here and screaming into it and saying, God.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Damn it, John Jansen.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So it was. I drew a line in the ground to rely on the land.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

To be fair, I took two paper cups and put a string in between them and had Claire hold one end. I said, Tallahassee, 1, 2, 4. Tallahassee, 124, pick up.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And then she said, I can't hear you. So I said, red leather, yellow leather, Red leather, yellow leather. My addiction might be off, she said. And then, and then it turns out, turns out that we weren't actually even.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Using a plastic cup, because I.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Those do off gas. We were actually just using two empty bottles of whiteout strung together by a piece of yarn.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I see bars, signals. I see signals. I, I, I'm in your Instagram account right now, Katie. I can see it, Katie.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I'm in your DMs I'm walking in your DMs. I'm playing Tron. I am on a motorcycle in your DMs.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I'm here, here, here.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Someone please get me out of Katie's phone. I found Kind bars. I found the bars. She has four of them.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

She stops drumming. She's like, well, that was a trip. This all happened while she was drumming.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, the scene never happened.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Never happened. Who?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

That taiko. That Taiko drumming was wild, wild, wild, wild, wild.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

So basically. Basically, yes. It ends with them saying, like, katie, if you want to exonerate yourself, pull it up. Pull up the account. And she's like, I don't. I just. Oh, oops, I have no service. Oh, no. I did speak to Verizon and they said that my service will be restored by Friday at the hot pot. So I will definitely have the receipts ready and everything deleted by then. Okay, great.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Oh, my God, that's so good. I've never seen. I mean, well, we have seen some blatantly lied to us, but that was pretty obvious that she was just so full of it. I loved every minute of it.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, it's like she's, like, blatantly lying. She's blatantly messy, and yet I'm still on her on her side for some reason.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

I love it. I love the drama.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Drama, darling.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Dramatizing.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Thank you for staying here way, way longer than you should have.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Like, I'm so sorry that I feel like I made it longer than we should have, but.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

No, it's my fault.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

It's my pleasure.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I'm totally. Ronnie's away and I'm out of control. I did a two hour episode yesterday for Miami.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Oh, my God, that's so fun. Well, anytime you want to do a two hour app, I just have the best. It's like a. It's like Gina's voice. It's a roller coaster ride of emotion and fun. So I.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

You're so. You made me laugh. I'm. I like the reason why I went so long is honestly, I just had so much fun talking.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Me too. I know. I love it. I wanted you. It could have been longer, too. Like, it could.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It really could have been. Honestly, it really could have been. In fact, we're making it longer actively. Like, the episode's over and we're just congratulating ourselves now. Thank you, everyone, for listening. Remind. Tell people where they can find you again. Get all your social media. Well, tell them where they can DM you if they're Katie.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

DM me at me, Amy Phillips and You can listen to Drama Darling anywhere you get your podcasts. So just look for that and subscribe, follow, and. And then there's more content on Patreon, so.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Great.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah. Thanks so much.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Well, everyone go sign up for Amy's Patreon all and subscribe to Drama Darling, because if you think she's funny here, you don't even understand how funny she is over at Drama Darling. Okay? You will never know.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

You'll never know because they're not gonna go.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

No, they're like, stop. Like, we've been here for two hours already, and now you want us to go listen to more content anyway. Well, I do consider you both a. Well, you're not a blogger. You're a podcaster, but you are a friend, and I adore you. I love you, and thanks for coming on the show. And we have to have you back again sooner with Ronnie as well. All three of us will get.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Oh, my God. That's. Oh, that'd be awesome. Okay.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It'd be great. All right, thanks so much, Amy, and bye, everyone. Have a great weekend. Catch you all next week.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Bye.

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