#2929 Next Gen NYC S1E7 part 1: Touched a Shore Spot with Danny Murphy

Summary

Watch What Crappens Podcast Summary
Episode: #2929 - Next Gen NYC S1E7 Part 1: Touched a Shore Spot with Danny Murphy
Release Date: July 16, 2025
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Danny Murphy
Platform: Wondery

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Introduction

In Episode #2929 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and special guest Danny Murphy delve into Season 1, Episode 7 of Bravo's Next Gen NYC. With Ronnie Karam temporarily away, Danny joins Ben to unpack the latest developments, character dynamics, and the overarching narrative of the show. Their candid and humorous analysis offers both praise and critique, providing listeners with an engaging recap of the episode.

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Episode Recap

Setting the Scene at the Jersey Shore

The episode centers around the main cast's trip to the Jersey Shore, highlighting cultural clashes and interpersonal tensions. Georgia finds herself staying at an upscale hotel suite, ostensibly courtesy of Omar, though Ben and Danny speculate it's likely a complimentary arrangement from the hotel's side. The group's activities include dining at the Ocean Club and participating in local events, which serve as backdrops for escalating conflicts.

Key Events:

• Dinner Drama: A contentious dinner scene where Ariana urges Charlie to pose for a selfie. Georgia criticizes Charlie for being "fake," leading to a confusing and seemingly unprovoked argument.

  • Ben Mandelker [15:08]: "They have to schlep out to Jersey every few episodes and have to hang out with Gia."
  • Danny Murphy [15:43]: "It made no sense."

• Family Dynamics: The presence of parents, particularly Seth Marks, is a point of contention. Ben and Danny discuss how Seth's overbearing presence detracts from the main narrative.

  • Ben Mandelker [07:21]: "I think the show is better when it's just focused on the kids."
  • Danny Murphy [07:53]: "I don't need Seth Marks to go through every Alphabet of the LGBTQ community with random kids he doesn't know."

• Character Development: Brooks expresses surprise at his own aspirations, revealing a desire to have a child by 25, contrasting his previously portrayed club-centric lifestyle.

  • Ben Mandelker [57:54]: "I thought you're a club kid."
  • Danny Murphy [58:11]: "Brooks, what part of you right now screams, like, settling with a child?"

• Conflicts and Resolutions: The episode features various confrontations, notably between Brooks and Charlie, and Georgia's ongoing issues with Omar's muteness.

  • Ben Mandelker [54:04]: "She does anything to shift the focus to her own issues."
  • Danny Murphy [54:27]: "Amira did it flawlessly later on."

Humorous Highlights:

• Fly Zapper Fiasco: Brooks' inept use of a fly zapper becomes a running joke, symbolizing his inability to handle simple tasks.

  • Danny Murphy [34:09]: "He’s trying to swat at them like he has a fly swatter, but you have a zapper."

• Pancake Serve Missteps: Brooks' attempt to serve pancakes echoes viral moments from Love Island, but is met with confusion and humor by the hosts.

  • Ben Mandelker [41:00]: "Pancakes on Love Island really broke the Internet."

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Host and Guest Reactions

Ben Mandelker and Danny Murphy offer a blend of critique and appreciation for the episode's content:

• On the Show's Structure:

  • Ben [05:34]: "It's a lot of setup. So we need the setup."
  • Danny [05:15]: "First episode, I was like, what is happening?"

• Cultural Clash at Jersey Shore:

  • Ben [11:09]: "It feels like Bravo took two concepts and mashed them together."
  • Danny [12:08]: "It is very two different worlds."

• Character Authenticity:

  • Ben [28:07]: "Riley is no more, like, over it than Gia is."
  • Danny [48:17]: "Gia, how are you getting involved in every fight?"

• Critique on Money Display:

  • Danny [32:14]: "The way they throw about money so casually on the show sends me into hives."
  • Ben [32:24]: "Bottle service was a very foreign concept to me."

• Humor and Satire:

  • Ben [33:45]: "He has very dry hair."
  • Danny [34:27]: "That really is so bizarre."

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Insights and Critiques

Parental Involvement: Ben and Danny argue that the constant presence of parents, especially Seth Marks, undermines the focus on the younger cast members. They feel that Seth's involvement is more of a crutch rather than an organic part of character development.

Cultural Representation: The hosts highlight the cultural divide between New York and New Jersey, noting that the show attempts to blend elements from both, resulting in a sometimes disjointed portrayal.

Character Arcs: Brooks' unexpected desire for parenthood by 25 contradicts his established persona as a carefree club-goer. This plot development is both surprising and jarring for the hosts, who question its consistency with his character.

Humor and Realism: The episode balances genuine drama with over-the-top humor, such as Charlie's flamboyant legal maneuvers and Brooks' mishandling of household chores like swatting flies. Ben and Danny appreciate the comedic elements but also desire more authentic character moments.

Authenticity vs. Reality TV Tropes: Ben and Danny critique the show for relying on typical reality TV gimmicks, such as voiceovers and contrived conflicts, rather than fostering genuine interactions and character growth.

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Conclusion

In this episode of Watch What Crappens, Ben Mandelker and Danny Murphy provide a thorough and entertaining analysis of Next Gen NYC Season 1, Episode 7. Their observations shed light on the show's strengths and weaknesses, from character inconsistencies to cultural representations. By incorporating notable quotes and timestamps, they offer listeners a vivid recounting of the episode, making it accessible even to those who haven't watched the show. The hosts' blend of humor, critique, and insightful commentary makes for a compelling summary that captures the essence of the podcast episode.

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Notable Quotes:

• Ben Mandelker [05:15]: "We're talking next gen New York City. What are your thoughts on this season? Tell me everything now."
• Danny Murphy [07:06]: "This is a great use case for it."
• Ben Mandelker [17:53]: "I thought that was such a stretch. It was a stretch so beautiful that it was perfect."
• Danny Murphy [34:09]: "He’s trying to swat at them like he has a fly swatter, but you have a zapper."

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Timestamp Highlights:

• [15:08] - Discussion on the confusing dinner scene.
• [07:21] - Critique on parental involvement.
• [32:14] - Host's frustration with casual money display.
• [34:09] - Fly zapper humor.
• [41:00] - Pancake serve reference to Love Island.

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key points, discussions, insights, and humorous exchanges from Episode #2929 of Watch What Crappens, providing a detailed overview for both new listeners and returning fans.

Transcript

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[Danny Murphy]

Watch what crap.

[Ben Mandelker]

Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hello and welcome to Watch what Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I am Ben Mandelker, and joining me today while Ronnie is still out on his lovely vacation, it is the one, the only, the hilarious, the wonderful Danny Murphy from Page Six and virtual Reality. Hi, Danny. How are you?

[Danny Murphy]

Good, how are you? I'm so excited to be the crappin universe again. You boys are the best, as always.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, my goodness. Well, we adore you, which is why we keep tapping you to come, come back. Although I shouldn't say that, like, if you don't get tapped, not like you, but we just. We just. It just speaks to how much we adore you. Oh, my God.

[Danny Murphy]

I also love. I. Wait, is he on a culinary tour as well? What is his vacation energy or is it secret?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, it's not a secret. Ronnie is getting his eyes done.

[Danny Murphy]

Lasik or. Or a plastic.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know how, like, you can develop tissue under, like, your brow? Right? And so, like, he got some of it just sort of like, sort of like cut away.

[Danny Murphy]

I love this.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was starting to. Yeah. So he's just been recovering, but also. But also a vacation because I took my week off and so he's entitled to take a week off. So it's. He's resting, but he's also. He's recovering, but he's also, you know, I think having some much, much needed.

[Danny Murphy]

R and R. Good, okay. He deserves that. I'm excited to see the I debut too.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know, Me too. I'm so excited for him. I also have some tissue that's like, causing this eye to be, like, a little wonky, but.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, do we say that for the insurance coverage? I'm like, mine is wonky too.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know. I'M too lazy to do anything about it. I'll be like this like three years in the podcast of like, huh. Today we're talking about Brooks Marks.

[Danny Murphy]

Just like all in voiceover like him on Next Gen.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, exactly. So speaking of which, we are here to talk about Next Gen nyc. I should also mention this is this recap is also available on video. You can go to patreon.com watchforcrappens and if you support on the video level, watch Crappies on demand level is what it's called. You can watch us not just listen. And I encourage everyone to look at Danny's beautiful face.

[Danny Murphy]

I'm like, your. Your skin is so clear. Like you are so refreshed. I'm obsessed.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you. Thank you for that. I have a really good camera. I invested in a good camera. So I would like to say it's my skin, but it's just the camera.

[Danny Murphy]

Okay. The best of both worlds. The best of both worlds.

[Ben Mandelker]

I will say it's. I will say that I. I used to have terrible skin. I used to have the worst skin because I had the. I had. Basically my brother when I was like 12, taught me how to like put on like anti pimple stuff. Like, he was like, oh. He was like, okay, first you put on Sea Breeze, which I don't know if they even sell Sebreeze astringent. And then you put on Clearasil, which it turns out, I don't know. I don't know. This is not what you're supposed to do for your skin. And I, of course, I was 12, so I was like, okay, I'll do what my brother says. And I continued with that skin. I did not question it until I was 30. I just kept doing it.

[Danny Murphy]

I was like, oh, Ben, no.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, I would just do it. And like, the thing is, like, you would strip away all the oils with the Sea Breeze and then you add the Clearasil and it would just clog everything up. And it was.

[Danny Murphy]

I just. You got dry breakouts all the time.

[Ben Mandelker]

Non stop breakouts for all of high school, all of college, my entire 20s. I had terrible acne. And then one time I got pneumonia and I was like, too sick to actually bother with a skincare regimen. And I emerged. I was like, wait a second, it looks great.

[Danny Murphy]

Okay, Pneumonia is the hack. All right, Let me just always be ill and sick.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then I was like, wait a second, I'm never going to touch those things again. So, yes, that's a nice little story that has nothing to do with anything we're talking about today. Thanks for the three people who are left listening today.

[Danny Murphy]

We're at the Dolce Gabbana event. Yes, yes, yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

We are. We. They. They're at a Dolce Gabbana event. They will be getting. They will be leaving for it very soon. They haven't left just yet. Soon. We're talking next gen New York City. What are your thoughts on this season? Tell me everything now.

[Danny Murphy]

I don't know. I'm. It kind of. I feel this first season is sort of like the same situation as the first season of the Valley. When the trailer came out, hated it. I was like, what are we doing here? First episode, I was like, what is. What is happening? But I was like, okay, it's a lot of setup. So we need the setup.

[Ben Mandelker]

Very sizzle, really.

[Danny Murphy]

That first episode, sizzling hot. Yes. And then second onward, I don't know what switched in me or switched on the show. I can't stop watching it. It's so good. I. I'm blown away and eating my words about not wanting the show to happen because all of them are crazy and monotone in the best way. Georgia should be on Gallery Girls in another world. Like, it really checks a lot of boxes. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yep. I, I actually, when I saw the trailer, I loved the trailer. I was really, I was on board. And then the first episode was, I thought, a bit shaky. And when I say sizzle reel for people who don't know sizzle reel, a lot of times when the, when companies are like, they want to pitch, like, hey, this should be a reality show, they kind of put together like a 20 minute, like sort of semi episode with like a lot of like introductions of like people. And it has like a weird vibe and energy. Yeah, it's choppy. It has a weird flow. So that's what I felt the first episode, but I was like, but I still like it. Like, it took a while. It was like a lot of setup. And then I sort of, you know, they ended with that like the hand washing thing. And I was like, I think I may be hooked. Right. I felt, you know, I felt something.

[Danny Murphy]

About that because also the first time I met Georgia, I. The first thing I asked her, I was like, did you wash her hands?

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh yeah. Did she?

[Danny Murphy]

She said she has been doing it more on occasion and now when she is in public restroom, she makes sure to wash her hands in case people who watch the show were there. So Bravo's changing lives.

[Ben Mandelker]

Public shaming works once in a while. It really does.

[Danny Murphy]

Forever. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is a great use case for it.

[Danny Murphy]

Yes. Not for Charlie, probably, but for Georgia. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. I. Yeah, but I think the show's great. I. My note is I think we actually need less of the parents. I think the show is better when it's just focused on the kids.

[Danny Murphy]

And I feel like Brooks is using the parents a lot as a crutch because he seems very overwhelmed in the main character moment. And I love the Marx family. They're very entertaining. But it seems he doesn't know how to fully get in the mix the way he wants to. So then he'll, like, film with the parents instead of, like, having a more dramatic sit down moment with someone. And I don't need Seth Marks to have, like, to go through every Alphabet of the LGBTQ community with random kids he doesn't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, that was really cringy in a way that I didn't enjoy. I. I don't mind that. Like, I guess, like, you know, we have, like, cameos from the parents, like, once per season. But, like, it's really been like, so much Seth. And someone made a very good point online that, like, during the Salt Lake City season, it was like every. Every. Anytime there was like a scene with Seth, he's like, I got to go. I got to go to work. I can't be here. I got to leave. But somehow, for this show, he's around nonstop.

[Danny Murphy]

You're. You're right. That is really. He. He never is leaving. And I feel Brooks actually doesn't. Brooks wants Meredith to film. I don't know if he is asking Seth to show up.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I feel like it's just. It's. I wonder if maybe just. It just comes down to just too much Seth on this show.

[Danny Murphy]

Too much? Well, the golfing episode, the golfing scene with, like, Ava, Brooks, Damon and Seth, I was like, who. Who? What's happening here?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Why is there? It just. It's just. I think the issue. Why there's so much Seth is that he feels very on. It doesn't. He's like, trying to, like, cultivate some sort of Persona. I don't know if he's trying to segue into motivational speaking or whatever, but vibe is not right and it's not authentic and doesn't match anything else happening.

[Danny Murphy]

On the show because also. Because that's what I like. To your point, I'm like, Candy was in for a scene and, like, rehashing stuff with Riley that's going on in the season. So it seems to progress. Kim Zak just eating cheese whiz for five minutes. Perfect.

[Ben Mandelker]

Fine. Perfect.

[Danny Murphy]

Fine. But I don't know if, if they kept on lingering around, it could be too much. And to your point too, Seth, this guy wanted to, like, was saying, like, things about your daughter, and you're having a sit down thing to him because you feel he doesn't have a dad in his life. Mind you, Charlie's dad seems perfectly fine.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, exactly. I'm totally team Anwar. Like, I, like, I get it. He worked hard and his son is a up. And he knows he probably, like, was not there enough for his son. And he up a son. He's tried to help and he, he's tried to do everything. He's trying to throw money at it. He can't do it. It's too late. And, you know, he's just not like. But Charlie is ultimately the one who's fucked up and he has to get it, get it together.

[Danny Murphy]

All the crappin's listeners right now retweet, like, give yourself a little pat on the back if your dad wasn't there enough as a kid. And are you like, Charlie? No. So, Charlie, there you go. It gets to a thing where I feel like he's about to be 30. We gotta let the, like, you know, you gotta look inward just to be a better person outward.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm not saying that he, that Anwar was a good dad, but, like, you're right. You're 30. It's time to start fixing this because you're too. You're too rich to not have this fixed by now.

[Danny Murphy]

Get a psychiatrist.

[Ben Mandelker]

Get something. Get it. Get a psychiatrist, a psychologist, a therapist, a life coach, a copy of the.

[Danny Murphy]

Secret Just Something Artist Way, please.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, anything. All right, let's. Let's dive into this week's episode. So we're in the big the cast trip. We're at the Jersey Shore, which is, by the way, also something that's really funny with this show, which is that what I think about this show is it feels like Bravo took two concepts that they were working on and mashed them together. Oh, it kind of feels like Bravo had been like, maybe toying with some sort of like, like wealthy kids of New York and then also kids of Real Housewives and like, oh, wait, we can actually get them all to work together as, like, one big show. Because I feel like there's like, a little bit of a culture clash happening on the show. Right.

[Danny Murphy]

That, that explains, like, why G is here.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Because Gia does not make sense. No, I'm sorry. She does not make sense on this show. This is a show about, like, kids in Manhattan being chic and, like, doing chic things and. And, like, then there's Gia off in New Jersey an hour away. And, like, all they do is they have to schlep out to Jersey every few episodes and have to hang out with Gia.

[Danny Murphy]

With Gia. And. Because it's funny, when the show was first about to come out, I was like, how is Gia going to pretend to live in New York for this? Because that's what I thought she was going to be doing. No, she's just at her pool.

[Ben Mandelker]

She just doesn't. Yeah, she'll sometimes take an Uber. She won't even take an Uber. And she drives. Actually drives. So impressed.

[Danny Murphy]

And I'm like, I live in Jersey and take public transit to the city every day. You could do it if you want to.

[Ben Mandelker]

And it's just like, there's. There's a big cultural divide there, too, you know? I mean, there's a reason why there's a Real Housewives of New York and New Jersey that's not really like. There's. It's two worlds.

[Danny Murphy]

It is very. Two different worlds.

[Ben Mandelker]

And you could see that some of them, like. Amira. Is it a mirror or Amira? I think it's Amira. Right?

[Danny Murphy]

It's Amira. Because I always. I said Amira when I was interviewing Ava and Brooks, and they didn't say anything. And then right when it wrapped, they were like, by the way, you said her name wrong the entire time. I was like, perfect.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thanks so much. So I didn't realize the question would become linked with trauma.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, always is. And it goes back to Anwar. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, Anwar. If only Anwar had been there longer for you. But Amira, Charlie, Ava, they seem like anytime they have to go to New Jersey, they're like, not about it. They're like, why are we not going to the Hamptons right now? Why. Why do we have to go to Jersey Shore?

[Danny Murphy]

And that's what I am a little bit as a Jersey boy who's been to the Hamptons and the Jersey Shore all the time. Jersey Shore does beat the Hamptons there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Does it really?

[Danny Murphy]

You're driving in the middle. You're driving so far out to the Hamptons to have no cell reception. You're not even by the beach most of the time. I mean, maybe people with higher incomes than me are closer to the beach. It's like a mix of, like, grass and that. And a bowl of pasta is $48.

[Ben Mandelker]

That is true.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Which is. My dear friends Neil and Nate live in the Hamptons. And I always love when I get to go visit them because it's very posh out there, and it's so lovely. But it is a trek. It is quite the track.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah. Also Jersey Shore trek.

[Ben Mandelker]

I feel like it's equal track.

[Danny Murphy]

It's equal track. Well, she went to Ocean City, which is, like, you're passing all the good places. Like, they. If g. G. If I was booking this, we would have gone to Asbury park, which is, like, the gay fun town on the boardwalk, which they could have done, but they didn't do it. So they added an extra hour to their commute, and it just feels easier. Maybe because I'm from Jersey.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Okay. Well, either way, you can see that Amir, Amara, and. And Charlie, like, they. They are just, like. They're not. They just don't want to go to Jersey ever.

[Danny Murphy]

No, they are like, this is repulse. They're repulsed.

[Ben Mandelker]

They are the repulse, both by it being Jersey and by the fact that, like, you know, Gia is a reality star. Because they also have, like, the snobbery. They don't seem to realize they're actually on a reality show, and so they have this snobbery about reality. These reality star kids also like Ava.

[Danny Murphy]

Dash saying she works for her money. I'm like, wait, what is happening here?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I'm not sure about that.

[Danny Murphy]

Well, that kind of ties in, and we'll get into it at the end. Like, the. The. The fight of who is privileged.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, my goodness. Okay, this is. We have to. I'm. I'm being a bad host. I am not moving this long. I am just. I can't. I just sometimes, you know, I just want to gab. I just want to gab. Guys, just turn this recap on. Drive to the Jersey Shore, and by the time you get there, we'll be.

[Danny Murphy]

Done, and I'll meet you.

[Ben Mandelker]

So. Yeah, so. But we're. We are at the Jersey Shore. They've just had. They've been fighting at dinner. They're at this, like, casino and Ocean Club. Yes, Ocean Club. Have you been to that. That hotel? I think that I've been on Bravo before.

[Danny Murphy]

Yes. I have not been there, but it is the hotel that if a Bravo Leopard is going to Atlantic City for an appearance, they are going there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, well, they. They're. They're having a fight because Ariana had said, like, charlie, look at the camera for the selfie. And then Georgia was like, oh, my God, like, you're so fake because you don't like him. But now all of a sudden you're invited to be in your selfie. And then, then she's like, well, why are you whispering across the table? And then Riley jumped in and Gia's like, riley, why do you always have something to say? And Riley was like, pause. It was a fight that barely made sense.

[Danny Murphy]

It really did not. And I just. The only saving grace was George's whisper. Shouting was hilarious.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Danny Murphy]

But it made no sense. And also I was like. I was like, why is this even. Just eat appetizers. Appetizers. And watch the magician find a card.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, exactly. By the way, one thing that I've been surprised about, Rodney and I both have been surprised that Riley has been really front and center on the show. But in all the publicity leading up to the show, you could barely find Riley at all.

[Danny Murphy]

And it's funny too, because she. Her press tour was done a week before the show came out and it was because she was going on like a pre planned trip with her family and she was really quiet and like, she was like, oh, it was a good time. Like, so I was kind of like, oh, is Riley really going to be in it? She's ivory storyline.

[Ben Mandelker]

She is. I. That. She was barely in the trailer. Yeah, she was. I was like, okay, they just threw her in because of Candy. I was like, wow. But. But like, she is actually completely very central to everything.

[Danny Murphy]

Shows up.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah, she really shows up. And then you have someone like Shy who appears like once in a blue moon and they put him. If you look at the poster, he is at the front center of the poster. And I'm like, why is he. I don't. The marketing is very confusing to me. I don't understand why some people have like such prominent positions in the materials.

[Danny Murphy]

Because that's where I was like, is he a friend? Is he like fully on the show? Because even himself, he's like, I have a day job, guys. I can't really do this.

[Ben Mandelker]

He like works for an agent. Yeah, he like probably worked for the agent that packaged this show. I'm like, I feel like Dylan was supposed to be like the friend. Like, I feel like Dylan quit midway through. He got fed up with. With Charlie. And then they're like, I guess let's put shy in there instead.

[Danny Murphy]

They're like, they're. He's cute too. Okay, we'll try it. You're like, have you ever done only fans you want to. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Would you like to start an argument about privilege? Okay, great. So this. The fight just continues from last week. It doesn't really. It's. It's sort of like a retread, and we kind of like, have. We see. We see Brooks having a thought bubble where he sees Meredith and he's like, you know, he's like, dis. She's like, disengage. Brooks, disengage. And that's what he does. And then we suddenly sort of, like, transport to the next morning. And, yes, that was a little confusing.

[Danny Murphy]

To me because I was like, I had to rewind. I was like, did I miss a moment? And I'm like, oh, we're getting the. Recounting the story.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, Yeah. I thought that. I was surprised that we didn't just start off in. In Morning Times, but that's fine, I guess, because they had said to be continuous. They have to, like, honor the. To be continues. They gave us, like, a few beats.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah, a few beats and a few. Like, Brooks talking in VO versus on the show.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, they're. I. I don't love when Bravo shows rely too much on silly hijinks like that. Like little. Like, chirons or like, voiceovers, you know, like that.

[Danny Murphy]

But because also, I'm like, I know that's not what Brooks is really thinking now.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because I wasn't doing that at all.

[Danny Murphy]

No, I'm like, just have him have a confessional about why he's not talking.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, precisely. So the next morning, people are waking up the. The seafood. The remnants of the seafood boil. I guess they just didn't throw them out. They just, like, left them in that pot. And then they. Then. And then they put the pot outside.

[Danny Murphy]

Repulsive. Repulsive.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just a public service announcement. Throw away your seat, your shellfish.

[Danny Murphy]

And also because, like, the smell of that. I Leaving it. And also because I'm like, it's a rental house, guys. Like, don't be a dick.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, and then there's that, too. Okay, so Amira and Brooks are talking, and they're talking about sharks because Brooks has a shark tracker.

[Danny Murphy]

This moment, I was like, ben, what? What? This is the moment. I was like, what is happening? Is this sponsor. Because they didn't even say the app of the shark. I thought it was gonna. I thought it was, like, a light sponsorship of this app, and I'm like, what is this?

[Ben Mandelker]

I thought it was gonna be like when NBCU owned priv and they would have, like, the PRIV squad come to every reality show and give them, like, a terrible makeover.

[Danny Murphy]

Yes. No, I prefer that. I prefer that to just like, hey, are you watching sharks right now? I'm like, do you guys want to rehash what happened last night? No. Okay. Perfect.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I really, like, it could have very well have been like, some sort of, like, corporate synergy with all the Jaws. We were talking the other day about, like, there's all this, like, Jaws hype because the 50th anniversary of JAWS, like, well, this makes sense. Peacock is doing. Has a Jaws app and. No, this was just some sort of third party shark app.

[Danny Murphy]

A shark named, like, Gary. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Fine. So then Brooks is. Brooks texts Ava and his, you know, like, Ava's like, oh, so my fitting got pushed. Oh, my God. I'm still gonna try to make. Try. Try my best to make it, but it's just like, whatever. She's one of those people that's like, yeah, we know her.

[Danny Murphy]

I was gonna say they're the people I. And they think they're doing what is right in their mind. But is the most annoying thing just say from the jump that you cannot go? Because this is worse. This is worse than that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole, like, oh, I'm gonna try to make it. You're not gonna try to make it. You're not gonna drive all the way down to the Jersey shore and then go all the way up to the Hamptons. It's never gonna happen.

[Danny Murphy]

And also, I'm like, is she even going to the Hamptons?

[Ben Mandelker]

She's not gonna go to the Hamptons. I was getting. I was getting more and more angry by the time the episode was done. I was like, I fucking hate Ava.

[Danny Murphy]

And it seems like the season finale is gonna be all about all eyes on her. Skipping that event or something like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Danny Murphy]

And also the fact that it was. I thought it was like a fitting for Dolce and Gabbana, but then am. I was like, no, it's like an event. It was just like a Hamptons day.

[Ben Mandelker]

But the. Yeah. Was with the fitting be in the Hamptons or would it be in the city? They normally, like, do it in the city and then bust them all out to the Hamptons.

[Danny Murphy]

Who's getting fit in, like, open space in the Hamptons in 98 degree weather.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Something does not add up at all.

[Danny Murphy]

It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial.

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[Ben Mandelker]

So they're talking a little bit about, like, you know, Chloe had to go to a doctor's appointment and everything. And we see that Georgia is inexplicably in an enormous suite at the hotel. Yeah. And she says that Omar got it for her, but I think it's like, clear that like, the hotel was like, well, like, we'll comp you dinner and everything, but we want to show off our rooms. So you have to, like, shoot something in the room, Right?

[Danny Murphy]

Genius. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's no way that Omar. Omar and George are not paying for that room. Sorry. They cannot afford that room.

[Danny Murphy]

He can afford one suit.

[Ben Mandelker]

He can only afford one suit. He is, like, in his. He is in some, like, low rent Glengarry Glen Ross, like, white whiteboarded, like bitcoin operation over there.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh. Because it's so funny when Georgia always makes fun of Charlie doing crypto. I'm like, isn't that what your boyfriend does?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And she like, somehow brands it as like a weird, like, disruptor, anti capitalist rebel, rebellious thing. I was like, no, this is the worst. The worst of capitalism.

[Danny Murphy]

I was gonna say. No, baby, we. It's. It's past the point of no return. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Did you. Did you even see the headlines about, like, the. Do we find any re. Do we find out why Charlie was at the townhome? Townhome of the Bitcoin?

[Danny Murphy]

No, but I want to know her situation. I hope there's a reunion so we can find out about that, because I.

[Ben Mandelker]

Would love to hear that.

[Danny Murphy]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. If he comes onto your show, please ask him. I don't know if he's.

[Danny Murphy]

I don't know if Bravo's putting him.

[Ben Mandelker]

On to do press, but Bravo's like, yeah, we. We have enough on our hands with Jax. I don't want to put on Charlie out there just yet. But please promise that if he does come through your studio, you will ask, why were you at the scene of the crime?

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah. What were you doing there, my love?

[Ben Mandelker]

So anyway, Georgia's there. She's got this sweep because she just. Everyone was fighting, and she just didn't want to go back to the house with anyone, so she decided to stay at the hotel because she's delicate like.

[Danny Murphy]

That, and, you know, a chaotic little delicate girl, and she had the worst. The hangover of every dimension. I'm like, because you only mainline red wine, like, you mainline bottom shelf red wine, girl. Like, that's gonna give you, like. And that's because she's young, but she has to know that's not gonna help you out in the long run.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, it's not. It definitely is not. It also feels very, like, 2011. It's like, very cougar town, you know?

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, Penny, can. They all just do that with the seafood boil? Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Penny can. Oh, throwback. Okay, so. So Hudson is. Hudson and Ariana are wondering whether or not Georgia is going to come back. And Ariana's like, I've replayed this conversation between me and Georgia, like, qu. And maybe I came off as a mean girl. I'm like, I don't. I am not detecting any mean girl in this.

[Danny Murphy]

No, I just was like, I think you were asking her, remember? I was like, Hudson was raving, raising his voice at Georgia a little bit, which I would have been like, ariana, tell him now. Yeah, but Ariana was just like, what the Are you doing?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly. Ariana has to remember that she's the good, good Zolciak. She's the one that we root for out of that brood.

[Danny Murphy]

She really is. I'm shocked by how much I love her.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's doing great.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, she was back in the. In the OG you know, in Atlanta. All the attention was on Brielle, and I was like, ariana is the one to watch. And I got scared. I got scared that she wouldn't wind up turn out well. But, like, she's great.

[Danny Murphy]

She really is so adapted and adult, immature. And talking to Charlie. Take notes on, like, not having your parents ramifications make you an asshole.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, that is like the perfect counterargument to any time Charlie complains about. About his upbringing. It's like you were not. You were not raised by Kim Zolciak and Croy. Like and Croy and whatever other people came through that household. Okay. Big papa.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, please.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Danny Murphy]

The auditor.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everything. Everything. So now we see Riley in bed. So Riley calls Georgia and George is like, oh, my God, I woke up. No joke. Never had a worse headache in my entire life. It's like someone took an. An axe and slashed it across my head. Like the worst. So that girl that says this every single weekend.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, because that's what. And I. I know it was a few episode. The same girl who says that is the same girl who brings her laptop out to text. Ma'.

[Ben Mandelker]

Am.

[Danny Murphy]

What? No, ma'. Am.

[Ben Mandelker]

How. Also, how do they. I feel like they. I would not be allowed to bring a laptop into a club.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, that's true.

[Ben Mandelker]

She must just have connections.

[Danny Murphy]

I mean.

[Ben Mandelker]

Party planner.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah. Party planner for everyone. Anna Delvey only. Only list. No other parties.

[Ben Mandelker]

I hope you get to go to one of George's party. I hope that, like, you get put on the list.

[Danny Murphy]

I'm not gonna bowl, but I'll. I'll go.

[Ben Mandelker]

It'll be like Diplo at, like, an H H Bagels.

[Danny Murphy]

She's like Diplo at Cat's Deli. Who would think of that yet? No one. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

For a reason.

[Danny Murphy]

No one wants that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't want to party at Cass's Deli like that.

[Danny Murphy]

No. I'm not going to the orgasm chair for that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm not gonna have what she's having. She is really obsessed with Harry Met Sally. I didn't even put that. To put those two together.

[Danny Murphy]

That.

[Ben Mandelker]

That scene was at Casadelli.

[Danny Murphy]

Yes. I don't know how. It's the one film she saw, and she's gonna. The one film she saw before, like, 2018. And it's gonna be her film. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's like a cool retro thing. It's like how Gen Z loves, like, Kodak Advantage cameras, you know?

[Danny Murphy]

Truly. Yes. Soon we're gonna be doing, like. Like, it's gonna be. The printing press is gonna be back. George is gonna have, like, a party where it's like, you make a newspaper love.

[Ben Mandelker]

Guys, if you want to get into this club, you have to. You have to make a. You have to write a letter in cursive requesting attendance.

[Danny Murphy]

You have to restart the industrial revolution and then let set sail.

[Ben Mandelker]

You have to have a bonnet, and you need to have a spinning wheel.

[Danny Murphy]

No, George's apartment. I know she has both already.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes.

[Danny Murphy]

A bonnet, a spinning wheel, and Charlie speakers.

[Ben Mandelker]

Huh? 100% Charlie speakers. So, yeah. So Georgia is like, yeah, just last night was so much. I just had to remove myself. It was like everything was happening all at once, and I was literally like, omar's mute over there. Mr. Mute. So she's a good burn there.

[Danny Murphy]

Effortless drag. Effortless. Got him.

[Ben Mandelker]

Got him. Mr. Mute. That's Omar, which is funny because he's been so chatty all season.

[Danny Murphy]

He has been popping up saying, like, I almost love you. Right. Wasn't that a thing?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. When he said, well, let's talk about the elephant in the room, and. Which was funny because there was no elephant in that room. But she was like, well, I guess what do we call our relationship? It was like a very, like, Love island was airing at the same time. It was like. It was not. It was not competing.

[Danny Murphy]

And then she's like. Because she also the girl, not me, looking for an elephant right now. Like, the way I know she does the robot in an Uber, like, she.

[Ben Mandelker]

Just is always, like, all the time in her bonnet. So, yeah, Riley is basically, like. Basically says that Georgia has a backbone, and then she's. Riley's also saying, like, wow, it's weird because, like, all of a sudden, everyone loves Charlie, and it's like, literally like the Twilight Zone. Ever forgot that Charlie said he would slap Georgia if she was a guy? Like, out of all the things that we're mad about with Charlie, like, especially something as stupid as getting a table at a club, like, that comment's not okay. Charlie, which, you know, really throwing himself into the villain edit, I have to say.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, it's almost. It's, like, so flawlessly him, I have to assume, because who else would do this? No human with a developed anything would be like, oh, this is perfect for me to say.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, he. You know, he gave us some microaggression this season. He's. He's given us now this, like, threat of violence against a woman. Yeah, against the woman. General spoiledness. Not paying, not making his poor friends actually like, like foot the bill for like thousands of dollars for things.

[Danny Murphy]

The way they throw about money so casually on the show is that. That does send me into hives. But I guess that it's fine for them.

[Ben Mandelker]

It is wild. Like, I cannot even imagine at like 22 or 23 being like, okay, well, whatever, we'll split the bottle thing and It'll be like 2, 000 per person. I literally could not even imagine that.

[Danny Murphy]

I didn't know. I didn't know how to say 3, 500 as a 22 year old. I didn't know that was a. A price of anything.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I. Bottle service was a very foreign concept to me. And that was. And like, when I finally did bottle service for the first time, I think it was like 150 or 200 per person, but it was definitely not like 2000.

[Danny Murphy]

2000. And also it's like the biggest scammet at all because I'm like. Then they give you like Tropicana orange juice next to it. I'm like, who is this for? Okay, this is what I'm spending money.

[Ben Mandelker]

Who wants a night of screwdrivers? It's basically what it is. Vodka tonics and screwdrivers. Enjoy, everyone. Although one time I did get bottle service in Vegas at like. But there's a club. This is like 2000, and this had to be 2008 or 9. It's a club at. At the Wind that had like a waterfall. It was like this big club with like a lake inside. And we got bottle service and they put us like right center, like right by the edge, by the. By the pond. And everyone kept coming over to us and like we were living the fantasy.

[Danny Murphy]

That's electric.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was exciting, especially in like 2008. Like, I just. It just felt like the coolest person in Vegas.

[Danny Murphy]

You were in that moment. You were.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was. I was official. I was. I was the Charlie. I was the Charlie of Vegas.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's a great moment. So Brooks, meanwhile, Brooks is. He has his fly zapper. It's like this electric tennis racket thing. But here's what's driving me nuts. He's trying to hit these flies, but he's swatting at them like he has a fly swatter, but you have a zapper. I feel like you don't hit the wall with the zapper, right?

[Danny Murphy]

No, because you just. It's supposed to press and it hits. It fries them. Because now you're frying the wall. The security deposit is not coming back on this.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're supposed to, I think, swat at the air, and the fly goes through it and hits it, right?

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah. Yes, I think so. I also. I'm like. I don't know if I would purchase that, because it just looks weird as hell.

[Ben Mandelker]

I just don't feel like it's gonna be effective, and I also feel like it's dangerous. I feel like I would zap myself, to be honest.

[Danny Murphy]

I. I would. 2,000%. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So that was a. We give failing marks on his flies at the performances. So Gia is announcing that they're. She's like, you know the jersey. Sure. You know, you can do anything. You make it what you want it to be. You can go tubing. You can go what, do what a sports. You can go crabbing and. Versus, like, crabbing. What's crabbing? She's like, you know, you get crabs.

[Danny Murphy]

I do love g. Like, you can do anything here for activities, and that's. That's stretching it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, I. I'm not gonna lie. I might do crabbing, but, like, I don't know if I want to do any of the other things that you mentioned.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, my. And also, when they went. I'm like, so you just went on, like, not even, like, a fun boat. You were just, like, stuck on a tube together. And also, catch me never at the thing that they did with the inflatables.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean. Yeah, I. I think catch me never at that entire little activity park that they went to.

[Danny Murphy]

No. Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

No. No. I'm in my bougie beach era, where I want to, like. I want to, like, have an umbrella, and I want to have a barefoot contest cookbook to leaf through.

[Danny Murphy]

Yes. You want to be relaxed because it's a beach. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Yeah. I want to. I want to do. I like. I like. I like that kind of vibe. I'm not. I don't need to go tubing at the beach.

[Danny Murphy]

God, no. With 15 people.

[Ben Mandelker]

With 15 people also is. Do people crab at the Jersey Shore? I did not think of the Jersey shore as a destination for crabbing.

[Danny Murphy]

You literally can. You can go. You can go for, like, Frito Lays. That's usually in the water when you're swimming there. I'm like, you can crab for Doritos. Like, that's like. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Does Gia know the difference between crabs and boots? Because she's like. I just imagine with, like, a crab trapping, like, caught three crabs, and she, like, brings up four boots or something.

[Danny Murphy]

She's like, dinner tonight? Yeah. It's just in the same pot from outside.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Riley is telling everyone that Georgia's staying at a hotel and she's gonna be meeting Georgia at a cabana. She's like, does anyone want to come with me? Otherwise, it's just gonna be me and Georgia. And everyone's like, no.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah, not a good sell.

[Ben Mandelker]

We have free passes to some sort of generic activity park by the. By the coast. So we're bouncing around. Yeah, we're gonna skip the cabana. So then Charlie comes downstairs and Ariana. They just kind of like. There's this moment where she says, Ariana's like, I was going out to the hammock last night, and I see Riley and Charlie eating cake. And then Riley's like, oh, was that me? Was that me eating the cake?

[Danny Murphy]

I was so confused at that. I'm like, did she, like, astral project outside of her body to be like, that was me.

[Ben Mandelker]

I saw a presence eating the cake and I didn't realize it was actually me.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, truly.

[Ben Mandelker]

So they look at, like, a video of it and everything. It's, like, funny. And delete it. And, you know, Charlie is never going to delete anything that's incriminating on anyone else. Ever. No. So he's saying, like, well, I know last night was pretty messy, but, like, I was just kind of expecting to, like, gamble, but it was just me in the hot seat all night long. So we see flashbacks to all that and. And everything. And we. Also, there was a scene. Well, here's a. Here's a criticism I have of the show. I feel like a lot of good stuff gets relegated to the flashbacks. And I feel like I would like to see less. Less, like, wacky stuff with the parents and more of these flashbacks of their own scenes. Not as much criticism in this episode because it was all the kids, no parents. But I'm just saying in general that there was a scene where Charlie and Hudson, they had a confrontation.

[Danny Murphy]

Yes. About Ariana. And I was like, why was this summed up in a sentence when it probably went on for, like, 20 minutes?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, because it was such a big thing. So Hudson's like, so. By the way, Riley told me how you think Ariana's hot. And Charlie's like, wait, Riley said that? I'm like, well, I think. I mean, I think she's attractive. I mean, she'd be a compliment. Didn't say in any derogatory way. Anyway, it's all good, man. It's all good. Like, that's Charlie's thing. He talks a big game, but then when confronted, he Folds immediately.

[Danny Murphy]

And then in the confessional, I feel like I could take Hudson in a fight. You think he's been in a fight before? Have either of you?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Also, you cannot take Hudson. I don't think Hudson's like, he's not like Mr. MMA here, but like, also.

[Danny Murphy]

He has a heavy shaped Dior satchel bag. That could kill.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. He has a. He has very dry hair. And that could be very scratchy on your skin.

[Danny Murphy]

It feels so dry. I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm still trying to figure out what his. Whose hair. Like, whose hair. I feel like there's a celebrity and I'm trying to figure out what. Who is his hair twin. Because it's out there.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, yes. Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Is it Grace Coddington from Vogue?

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, wait.

[Ben Mandelker]

Does he have Grace Coddington hair? He has Grace Cottington hair.

[Danny Murphy]

I feel that would make him. That's a compliment to him. He would. She's an icon.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's literally that icon.

[Danny Murphy]

It literally is. Wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

Grace got into there. Wow. She's also 84. I cannot believe that. That's shocking.

[Danny Murphy]

Wow. And a Taurus. Okay, go me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Where? Maybe she should be on this show. Where's her? Where's.

[Danny Murphy]

I would love. That's next gen. That's her thing. She's like, I am the next gen.

[Ben Mandelker]

Maybe she just shows up pretending like she's like Gen Z. She just has like a Gen Z outfit on.

[Danny Murphy]

It's like younger. It's in foster and younger. Hi, guys. I bowled before.

[Ben Mandelker]

With Diplo. So anyway, they squash their beef or whatever. You know, it seems like everything is fine. But yeah, Charlie's like, yeah, he has to have some sort of ability to defend himself. He's walking around with that much jewelry. Because I think that, like, all that Charlie really has is like this waspy sense of like, old money tack. Like, I'm not tacky. They're tacky. Right?

[Danny Murphy]

Which is so boring. I'm like, if you have money, please show it off so I can look at it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly.

[Danny Murphy]

Someone with no money. I just like to see it. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Brooks serves pancakes. He's like, does anyone want a pancake? Does anyone mind if they're like a little extra rare?

[Danny Murphy]

And she has like, we do, but it's your birthday. I'm like, the is going on here.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, it's very on trend. I mean, the pancakes on Love island really broke the Internet.

[Danny Murphy]

They really did. And I broke a little KB on the violin. That is true.

[Ben Mandelker]

And you know what an undercooked pancake played A major role on Love Island.

[Danny Murphy]

I mean, she would love Brooks. Maybe they can couple up together. She can be in a smally with them.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hooda and Brooks. That. That could be. That would be an interesting watch.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah. And the boyfriend's name? Cade or something. I don't know. I know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Which one the Brooks's boyfriend is. Oh, Cade. Yeah.

[Danny Murphy]

Cade. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cade for sure. I've never medicade. I feel like Kade is a name that's only used for, like, porn stars.

[Danny Murphy]

Which if so, compliments to all involved.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, Commercials. Here comes one right now.

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[Ben Mandelker]

And I'm Brooke Zifrin.

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[E]

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[Ben Mandelker]

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[E]

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[Ben Mandelker]

So Georgia George is calling Omar and she's like, are you ever gonna travel with me and my friends again? Oh, my God. He's like, yeah, but there's stuff you guys have to work out. She's like, yeah, I understand why you didn't say anything at dinner, Mr. Mute. Did I tell you I called you that? Anyway, I know, like, some people feel really strongly like your man should be standing up for you. Like, maybe I think that because I said that earlier, hashtag, Mr. Mute. We can't catch on. But it's like, well, you know, I could fight on my own, so, like, I don't need you to speak for me. I'm changing my story entirely right now. She's like. I think she's like, fish. She's trying not to have a confrontation, but she's fishing for him to be like, I should have stood up for you, though.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, it's such a thing. Where because she was like, I don't think this, but everybody else does. Riley. Because it's the only person she's talked to about it. This. What are your thoughts?

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like, I don't know. I. If I do have some thoughts, I'll write them on the whiteboards that cover our office and I'll let you know.

[Danny Murphy]

I also. I'm like, and also, do you think him and Charlie are gonna have a sit down confrontation girl?

[Ben Mandelker]

They are apparent, based on the previews.

[Danny Murphy]

For next week, who and what that's they're gonna go into. It's just crypto business.

[Ben Mandelker]

It'll be a crypto thing. He'll be like, look, whatever feelings you have about me, whiteboard it. Just whiteboard it. You want to whiteboard right now?

[Danny Murphy]

Or like, they verse each other in Mario Kart. Like, what is happening here?

[Ben Mandelker]

That would actually be very fun.

[Danny Murphy]

I would watch that.

[Ben Mandelker]

I would be totally down for that. I would get into fights with people if it meant that we'd have to resolve by playing Mario Kart.

[Danny Murphy]

That's actually true. You know what? It probably would be much more peaceful for everybody. Anybody? Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. So meanwhile, Eva is. Is back at. Back in New York, and she has a really interesting story to tell, which is that she saw a big cockroach and her maintenance man came in and was like. And she's like, I've never heard him say that. So safe to say she's not the Dolce and Gabbana fitting. She's not there boring us with dull anecdotes of her. Of her time in the city, which.

[Danny Murphy]

Is kind of the. The through line.

[Ben Mandelker]

Through line from her.

[Danny Murphy]

That and also maybe taking over Slutty Vegan one chain.

[Ben Mandelker]

Have you ever been to Slutty Vegan? I do. It's really good.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Is it?

[Danny Murphy]

So that's when I saw. I was like, okay, shout out to them. But it is. It is very good. Like, fascist, fast, ish vegan food.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, all right, we'll allow that. So then. So now people are getting into cars, and they're gonna be heading to, like, their various activities. So Riley arrives at the hotel with Georgia and George. Riley's like, so you just been in this room this whole time? She's like, I've literally been, like, watching Tick Tocks on my phone. It's like, hilarious. I'm like, on Spinning Wheel TikTok. Have you ever been on that? It's so good.

[Danny Murphy]

I also. I also do.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm curious about Loom TikTok too.

[Danny Murphy]

I love, like, Riley wasn't paying attention to her earlier because she asked again, where's Omar?

[Ben Mandelker]

That's true. True. So Georgia, the producer, is like, where does Omar's money come from? And she's like, you know, I don't. I don't know exactly where his money comes from. I think he did, like, good crypto trades and investments in other crypto companies. And I know. I think he has some Airbnb properties, stuff like that. I'm like, he's going to jail right now.

[Danny Murphy]

And don't. If he does your business with a bowling alley, you're getting indicted.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. You're going down the ship.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay. Just know this right now. We all can see it. We've seen these movies before. Boiler Room, Wolf of Wall Street, Real.

[Danny Murphy]

House of New Jersey.

[Ben Mandelker]

We've walked down the street. Wall Street. We walked down the street in New York. We know who's going to jail, who's not. Okay? Anwar. If Anwar did anything shady, he's not going to jail.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, he's a smart boy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, he's smart. He pays people off. Your boy Omar is jail. Jail time. So Georgia says, you know, I see a softness in Riley, and I can tell she has, like, a good heart. And I'm always gonna feel, like, a little weird in the bathroom when I see her because I don't wash my hands. But I think we could have, like, a really, really good friendship. And, like, genuinely, I think she's, like, a really sweet girl, which is nice. But it's kind of funny that, like, I don't see hardness in Riley. And I think the fact that. I think the fact that they say they see softness almost like a. Surprisingly enough, is in and of itself, kind of a microaggression.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, for sure. Because, like, whenever Riley's in a scene, she's just, like, silly and goofy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. She's. No. Riley is no more, like, over it, quote, unquote, over it than Gia is. Like, they actually have a very similar demeanor. And no one's ever, like, like, oh, I see a softness in Gia. She's. There's actually someone really nice down inside there. Yeah.

[Danny Murphy]

And also because. And unlike Riley, Gia doesn't even, like, wait to hear anything before she starts shouting or, like, anything. Because I'm like, gia, how are you getting involved in every fight? But you don't, like, know any single person.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly. You had to, like, She's. I'm just. I'm so surprised that Gia would act this way, given that her mom is known for being so chill and. And thoughtful.

[Danny Murphy]

Well, cool. As a cucumber.

[Ben Mandelker]

Cool as a cucumber. So they are. Meanwhile, other people are, like, tubing and on a boat. And Brooks is like, has anyone ever seen a shark here? And like, yeah, of course. He's like, oh, my God. That's his most terrified voice.

[Danny Murphy]

No, true. That's. Yeah, that's when he really is getting in his dramatic moment. He's like, oh, my God, I wonder if, like, would he scream if he saw a shark? Like, can he scream?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, we did see him kind of let out, like, a little gasp with the fly swatter because he was trying to swat a fly and he kind of, like, tripped him. So I think that's what he would do.

[Danny Murphy]

Okay, there we go. That is good to know.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think he'd say, oh, my God, the shark, Gary. He would be really bad in a horror movie. Oh, my God.

[Danny Murphy]

But get him in Sharknado.

[Ben Mandelker]

Absolutely. 100%. Kim Richards. Brooks Marks. Sean Scott.

[Danny Murphy]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Let's just do. I'm just assuming Sean William Scott. Where is Sean Williams Scott, by the way?

[Danny Murphy]

Ocean City. We don't know. He was.

[Ben Mandelker]

He was like an A list actor who just disappeared.

[Danny Murphy]

That is true.

[Ben Mandelker]

Was it like a rehab situation, Kids?

[Danny Murphy]

I'm like, pick your poison.

[Ben Mandelker]

We'll have to check in on him and Chris Klein sometime soon. Checking on our. Our studs from the year 1999. Actually, I once went. Okay, this is off topic. I once went to a book. Like, a book. My friend had, like, a book signing or a thing. She was reading from a book at a store and Chris Klein was there for some reason, and he was sitting behind me, and he spent the entire time talking to the person next to him about how he acts, like, how, like, his method and, like, how he approaches roles.

[Danny Murphy]

While I'm telling you. While your friend was doing a book reading?

[Ben Mandelker]

No, no, it was before she started reading.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh. Oh, my God. Sorry. Sorry.

[Ben Mandelker]

But the entire time I kept thinking, like, I am so privileged right now to be able to have this front row seat to Chris Klein. Talking about his acting methods.

[Danny Murphy]

That is beautiful. Just, like, presented without comment. Here's my story.

[Ben Mandelker]

He was like, yeah, he was just like, I sometimes just like to really get into the role and really like to consider where they come from and think about the motivation. And I was like, oh, my God. Thank you. Thank you, Los Angeles gods, for placing this man right behind me.

[Danny Murphy]

Your city pulls through when it does. Yes, it pulls through.

[Ben Mandelker]

Louisiana. Strong. Louisiana really comes through when it needs to be. When it needs to come through, it does. So Georgia and Riley are talking to. Well, they've ordered some frozen drinks, and George is like, I want to get. I want to go with La mode. A la mode. Also, let's get some a la mode cocktail. Okay. Anyway, my only concern. Did you notice.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah, I did notice that. And I was like, what the fuck does that mean? I was like, okay, here we are. All right. She always has a new word for everything.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, let's go. La mode. La mode. So my. She's saying, my only concern is I love Ariana and I respect her so much, which is her way of saying I don't respect her at all. I just. I don't want to be fighting with her. Like, I don't want to. I don't want to fight with a scary girl from the South. That's. That's, like, unpleasant for me.

[Danny Murphy]

Well, downtown, this is scary.

[Ben Mandelker]

And. And she's like, what is. So, like, what's the sentiment from, like, Ariana and Hudson and Amir and all them. Are they all just, like, talking about our huge feud and that big fight we had? And Riley's like, yeah, they haven't. No, they haven't really been saying anything today. No one really cares.

[Danny Murphy]

No one. No one knew you weren't there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, we. We all drove home, got to the house, partied at the house, went to sleep, woke up the next morning and realized you were not with us for any of that.

[Danny Murphy]

Wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ariana, meanwhile, she's going through it because she's like. She's like, I was so fiery last night, and I just. I don't want people to ever feel attacked. And I feel like Georgia felt attacked from me last night. I'm like, you're thinking about this way too hard right now. Way too hard.

[Danny Murphy]

I don't know if it was, like, anxiety or something, but, yeah, it really got into her mind when I'm like, this is one of the. Like I did. Because we didn't see the rest of the dinner play out, but I'm like, you guys just said two sentences to each other.

[Ben Mandelker]

Exactly. But Amir, Amara uses this as a way to. To, like, soft launch her feud. So she's like, my God, I think you were, like, a hundred percent valid and what you were saying and what you were feeling and how you were reacting to it. And I feel like part of it was maybe influenced by what I told you earlier. Remember? Because what happened was I got my burgers delivered. You guys remember when I got my burgers delivered? Yeah, it was. So she said them. She. Yeah, I got my Red Robin. And then she said, I guess the Ozempics were enough. I mean, that is the most classless thing to comment on what someone is eating. That is like basic etiquette number one. That is something you learn in third grade.

[Danny Murphy]

I was like, I don't know if I that retained to me.

[Ben Mandelker]

But yes, I'm like, I don't know if that was like my number one etiquette lesson. But she does have a point. She has a point. Obviously food sensitivities over there in that area. So be careful. Ariana. I mean, Georgia. Georgia. But Amira is basically like, yeah, I'm. I. Whatever you're saying, Ariana, that was really nice, whatever you were saying. But I'm going to talk about my issues right now. I'm going to have a feud.

[Danny Murphy]

But I also think Ariana was like, that is some of the reason why. Yes, yes, I remember you guys having that fight. Go on, go on. But yeah, she really did pass the baton.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. That's one of my favorite things that reality stars do is when they like to pretend like they're. They're listening to you to vent, but they're just waiting until they can actually surface their own issue and make it like the center of the scene.

[Danny Murphy]

And I mean, we'll get into it. Amira did it flawlessly later on.

[Ben Mandelker]

Flawlessly. Actually. Actually, she did it so clunkily that it became flawless.

[Danny Murphy]

That's the thing. It was so direct in such a.

[Ben Mandelker]

Way that it was, it was, it was such a. It was a stretch. She. She pulls it in. In such a stretch. But like, the stretch was so beautiful that it in and of itself was perfect.

[Danny Murphy]

It was heaven.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So she's really on one. She's like, really upset about the food thing. She really goes off and off about it. She's like, I mean, that's just something you don't say to anyone. Like, you don't even say that to your friends. I just like, grow up. I mean, she is honestly a little bit more upset about this than any of the microaggressions that happened earlier in the season. I'll be honest.

[Danny Murphy]

That is true. Very. Yeah. And I don't know if it was a thing because I feel like there's a few episodes she wasn't really there, so I don't know if she was like, okay, yeah. And then I guess she's like. She's like, what have I done this season? Here we go.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly. But also, like, I think when you're. When you're talking to a Model and you. That is what they're eating. Good luck to you.

[Danny Murphy]

I was gonna say true, because I'm like, I think baseline is hungry. Yeah. And also, Red Robin isn't in the city, so I'll point to Jersey. Maybe she just was like, maybe she's a huge Red Robin fan and doesn't get it there. And she's like, okay, I'm in a place of ordering area. And who does anyone blame her for being like, I'm good on the seafood boil Gia Giudice made.

[Ben Mandelker]

Actually, I would trust that. I feel like the Giudices have. Have cooking skills. What I do. Here's what I. What I took issue with last week that I mentioned. And you know what I have to say. I don't seem to remember a lot of people co signing me. And it has been noted. It has been noted. But I'm going to say it again.

[Danny Murphy]

I can't wait.

[Ben Mandelker]

I thought it was strange that Amira waited all the way until those clams were being poured on the table to announce, I'm just going to order something because I don't like seafood.

[Danny Murphy]

I.

[Ben Mandelker]

Those clams have been boiling for.

[Danny Murphy]

That's.

[Ben Mandelker]

That stockpot has been going for at least 30 minutes. You've had a long time to call your ubereats.

[Danny Murphy]

I was confused about that too, because I am somewhat. Because I was thinking in my head because I didn't know if Amira was a vegetarian or. No, no, she's not, because she had a burger. But I was like, I can't have. I can't have a seafood boil. I would have been ordering food the second I walked in and smelled the lobster and everything like that. So it is a very weird timing of that. And also, if I'm lucky, I'm going to the grocery store.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I. There was something. Oh, yeah, because remember, she skipped the gr. That's her.

[Danny Murphy]

There's something to a grocery store.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, I hate grocery stores. I hate going into them. And I think that there. She has some food. It seems like there's some food sensitivity issues.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Food trigger. Food trigger.

[Danny Murphy]

And I feel like. And thank God, because she has a man that stands by her. So we love quiet Kevin. I think his name is. Well, it's Kevin, but not to be.

[Ben Mandelker]

Confused with Mr. Mute. Yeah. Kevin's actually there in the house, right? Yes.

[Danny Murphy]

He's fully in the middle. He's white.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's like. He's there. He's just. You don't really notice that he's there.

[Danny Murphy]

He's the one Finance guy, I think, who actually does finance and not crypto.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, he does real finance. So some of them are talking, and Brooks is saying that he's. He's like, honestly, I thought that when I was 25, I'd be, like, married and have, like, a kid. And I just feel like I have so many visions for myself turning 25, and I don't know if I'll be able to attain those things. Isn't this surprising? Would you ever thought that Brooks wants a child at 25?

[Danny Murphy]

Was so shocked at that because I'm like. Like, I thought his plan was to, like, Gallivan around the world. And I'm like, do you have a. And I know. I guess, like, because I didn't know Seth and Meredith had the kids, like, in late 20s and everything like that. I'm like, brooks, what part of you right now screams, like, settling with a child?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's. It's just very surprising. I just thought you're a club kid.

[Danny Murphy]

You know, because also, I'm like, next gen. I'm like, this is not really. You're about. You're. You're headlining a show that's not really having kids mode. And he's never. And we've seen him in Salt Lake City a lot. He's never talked about. He's never looked paternal.

[Ben Mandelker]

He's still often referred to as, like, a child. Like. Like, Meredith talks about him like. Like he's a toddler. Like, Ryan. And I always joke that, like, Meredith is like, well, it's my toddler. Brock's like, don't be mean to him.

[Danny Murphy]

He's two years old, 2,000%. Like, he can't. Like, he's flipping pancakes unwell. Like, I don't know if diapers is.

[Ben Mandelker]

There, but I was working the pancakes first. Pancakes first.

[Danny Murphy]

And then, as Gia said, adopter sperm.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, adopt her sperm. And he's like, what? And. And Charlie's like, wait. Oh, is the sperm thing, like, where you have, like, jizz in a cup and you mix it and choose a random one, like, because that's dead ass how they do it. Right? You guys are laughing, but that's how they do it. You come in. So you guys come in separate cups or, like, put your dicks in there. You touch your lips the same. But he's, like, really going to town on this.

[Danny Murphy]

He was Seth Marks discussion. Yeah. Like, we're diving a little too deep on gay men having babies. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

We may need him to. To slow down on the Seth Marks parental sessions there. But I did love Too much off.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah. I did love Brooks having this conversation with Gia, Gia's Italian boyfriend from Jersey. And Charlie, That's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly. So now, back at the. The boat docks, Riley and Georgia join everyone. And this is the moment that was in the trailers. Riley drops her phone and it bounces off an inflatable thing and into the water. And it's. I would be devastated.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, I. The party would be over. It would be.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's done. But the best part is they're all like, oh, my God. Wait, call the phone. Call the phone.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, yeah, it went to the voicemail. Yeah. Honey, your shark ate.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's in your shark belly. It's in the shark's belly. Who is supposed to answer the. Is Jonah gonna answer the phone in the parish belly?

[Danny Murphy]

This kid, mind you, just said he wanted to be a parent calling a phone that's on under the sea.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So he. Then I think Riley is like, I'll pay someone a thousand dollars that they'll go find it. So of course, Charlie, who has no money to his name because he's like, it's all either gone up his nose or out somewhere. He is. He dives in. He's like, well, a thousand dollars. I'll take it. And of course he can't find it. And then Georgia goes in. And you know that Georgia probably didn't shower for three days after being in that Jersey water.

[Danny Murphy]

Three days.

[Ben Mandelker]

Generously.

[Danny Murphy]

And also her arriving in a robe that she put back on after going to the wall topless.

[Ben Mandelker]

What? Yeah. Why was she still in the hotel's robe?

[Danny Murphy]

I'm like, oh, my God. Everything's doing. It's like random entrances and stuff like that. It. That part really threw me for a loop.

[Ben Mandelker]

And no one even commented on the robe. I was like, is she still wearing the hotel robe?

[Danny Murphy]

I think it was just a lot of people sighing and eye rolling. And then she puts on Charlie's white T shirt. I'm like, that'll be see through, but.

[Ben Mandelker]

Right. And then she just jumps in. So of course they don't find the phone because it's. It's ocean. It's. It's like. It's the ocean and the water. The water literally looks like the Manza's old like blk water. Like, you cannot. You're not gonna see anything through it. Like, this is where they get. This is where they source it from.

[Danny Murphy]

Because I was gonna say that is just bottled up.

[Ben Mandelker]

That.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah, that really is. That.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is. You know, you still see that, that, that, that water around.

[Danny Murphy]

And I'm like, has that been there for over a decade? Like, are they producing more?

[Ben Mandelker]

It's been around. Yes. You know, that's around. You know Kyle Cook's original company, Bird Dogs, or Cat Bird or whatever it's called. Cat Dogs. That's around.

[Danny Murphy]

I would love if, like, you. Kyle Cook is the inventor of the cartoon cat dog. He's like, no, it's still kicking. He's 75. Yeah. Those residuals investing into lover boy.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. People don't realize I. I came up with cat dog.

[Danny Murphy]

Why could I say, like, that's Kyle Cook's dream? Because he could come up with a cat dog.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, because he. He does have cat dog energy.

[Danny Murphy]

He really does.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, he and Amanda are kind of cat dog together.

[Danny Murphy]

Wait, now I'm like, wait. Now I'm like, cat dog is so cute.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wait, next time you see them. Next time they're in the studio.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, my God. I'm like, isn't it fan? Your friend Ben in la, he says, you guys are spitting images of cat Dog.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know what that is. Dude. Isn't it fun to think that they're, like, shooting right now? Like, Summer House is in session right.

[Danny Murphy]

Now, and I want to know who the new people are that they're saying.

[Ben Mandelker]

I want to know, too. They. Losing Paige is a real hard one.

[Danny Murphy]

That's gonna be a. It's gonna be a pivot. I don't really.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, squee pivot. You know what's so sad? Can I say something that makes me so sad? I was going through DMs last night for Watch what Crappens, and I saw that we had a DM from a company back in April that was like, hey, just so you know, we're loosely associated with the Summer House finale, and we, like. We basically. They're like the ones that provided Carl with all those sandwiches. Remember when Carl showed up, the sandwiches, they were like, we provided sandwiches. And if you're interested in trying the sandwiches, we'll send you a sandwich platter. Oh, I missed the chance to have the Carl Radke sandwich platter.

[Danny Murphy]

Okay, you did up.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's a big up.

[Danny Murphy]

You guys have to be a little bit more on. On top of the dms, and you can't even.

[Ben Mandelker]

You can't even respond to it anymore. It says, your chance to respond is over.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know intern played that way.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, no, because it was. It was like in the promotional. I think it's like a. Because it was like, a business to business thing or something. So like Charlie. Okay.

[Danny Murphy]

Business. To business. Business.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, it was. Yeah, it was B2.

[Danny Murphy]

B2B marketing. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

I missed my chance at the Carl Radkey sandwich platter. Yeah. Yeah, it's. It's really devastating. Real. It's like. It's as bad as losing your phone in the, in the ocean.

[Danny Murphy]

Do you have a second sandwich?

[Ben Mandelker]

I, I, I, I would like, I would like that Took me a moment there to understand what you were saying there. And I get it. And I now applaud that. Don't worry. Luckily I have another sandwich hookup.

[Danny Murphy]

Oh, okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'll just go to something about her. So. Yeah. Wait, so does. I was confused about this. Did Riley just have a second phone on her?

[Danny Murphy]

That's what I don't get. She did. And she was like, but it wasn't the phone with a good service. I'm like, do you have two different providers? And I'm like, so then if that's the case, do they have the same storage and everything like that? It made no sense because I'm like, I don't think one's a business phone. Because your business is DJing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. We can't even talk about that. That, that. I'm so disappointed in Riley for that.

[Danny Murphy]

Well, so.

[Ben Mandelker]

Exactly. With Candy. Candy.

[Danny Murphy]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

Do anything. Honestly, work at Cats's Deli during the Diplo concert. Like just don't be a. Please don't be a dj.

[Danny Murphy]

Please don't be a dj. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's just not it. It's not it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So they're all laughing because she somehow has this other phone. Hello there.

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