#2930 Next Gen NYC S1E7 part 2: Touched a Shore Spot with Danny Murphy

Summary

Watch What Crappens - Episode #2930: Next Gen NYC S1E7 Part 2: Touched a Shore Spot with Danny Murphy

Release Date: July 16, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode #2930 of Watch What Crappens, hosts Ben Mandelker and guest Danny Murphy delve into the second part of their recap of Next Gen NYC Season 1 Episode 7: Touched a Shore Spot. This episode provides an insightful and humorous analysis of the latest developments in the Bravo series, focusing on character dynamics, plot twists, and the ever-entertaining antics that make the show a fan favorite.

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Recap of Key Scenes

The hosts jump straight into the heart of the episode, skipping over the initial advertisements and introductions to focus on the main content.

1. Slutty Vegan Shenanigans [02:04 - 05:03]

   • Ben Mandelker and Danny Murphy discuss Ava's unexpected decision to stay at Slutty Vegan instead of heading to the Hamptons. Ben remarks, "She's not going to the other thing... She's fully at Slutty Vegan" (02:10).

   • Danny humorously points out Ava's unconventional culinary choices: "She's milking cashews" (02:50), highlighting the comedic disconnect between her vegan endeavors and typical Hamptons activities.

2. Jersey Shore-Themed Dinner Party [05:02 - 15:35]

   • The conversation shifts to a Jersey Shore-themed event where characters dress up, leading to playful mockery. Danny notes, "I'm smoking a johnson" (07:08), reflecting on Charlie's youthful antics.

   • Ben critiques Georgia's grandiose plans for a "brutalist bowling alley club," stating, "She's acting like she has truly reinvented it" (11:29), emphasizing the redundancy of the concept.

3. Privilege Debate and Character Tensions [25:07 - 33:07]

   • A heated discussion emerges around the concept of privilege. Ben observes, "Georgia cannot conceive like a world in which that she's actually privileged" (32:38), pointing out her inability to recognize her own advantages.

   • Danny adds, "It's a privileged industry... It's a privilege to luxury dream of a failing business" (32:42), critiquing Georgia's naive business aspirations.

4. Conflict Resolution and Apologies [27:24 - 35:25]

   • The episode highlights Riley's attempts to mend fences with Georgia, leading to a mix of genuine apologies and sarcastic remarks. Ben summarizes, "Riley was never really in the trailer at all" (35:38), indicating underlying tensions.

   • The hosts discuss how conflicts are navigated, with Riley and Georgia struggling to find common ground amidst their disagreements.

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Notable Quotes

• Ben Mandelker: "She's not going to risk spilling something... She's not going to get any vegan oil on you." (03:43)

• Danny Murphy: "They all saw how much I loved him. They didn't have to take him from me." (17:52)

• Ben Mandelker: "It's a terrible idea... We have to shoot with her. But let's... we'll go back to the city and we don't have to deal with this idiot over here in Jersey." (27:24)

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Insights and Analysis

Ben and Danny provide a blend of sharp critique and affectionate humor as they navigate through the episode's events. Their discussion sheds light on:

• Character Development: The hosts analyze how characters like Ava and Georgia navigate their personal and professional lives, often leading to comical but telling situations.

• Thematic Elements: Topics such as privilege, business ventures, and personal relationships are explored, offering listeners a deeper understanding of the show's underlying messages.

• Humor and Satire: True to the show's nature, Ben and Danny employ satire to highlight the absurdities within Next Gen NYC, making for an engaging and entertaining recap.

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Conclusions

Episode #2930 of Watch What Crappens serves as an entertaining and insightful companion to Next Gen NYC Season 1 Episode 7. Through witty commentary and keen observations, Ben Mandelker and Danny Murphy dissect the episode's events, offering listeners both laughs and thoughtful critique. Whether you're a die-hard fan of Bravo's reality offerings or a casual observer, this recap provides valuable perspectives that enhance your viewing experience.

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Where to Listen

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Note: Timestamps in the quotes correspond to the provided transcript timestamps for reference.

Transcript

[Ben Mandelker]

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[TJ Raphael]

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[Amira]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Watch what happens. Watch what crap is. Who cares what happens when there's something hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. So then meanwhile, we go back to Slutty the Slutty Ish Vegan.

[Danny]

Oh yes, vegan now. But yeah, it said slutty ish for some reason. I don't know if the branding is changing before my eyes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, but, but Ava's there with, with Damon. I'm telling you, she's not going to Hamptons because now she's at. She's fully at this. She's at. She's at the shop. What? You're at the shop?

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

You're not. You're not going to the other thing. Like you also like she would have gone here's if she knew there was a. If there was a fitting. I think she's already going to the Hamptons. Then she builds a whole, a whole day or two around it and like They'll.

[Danny]

They would have had, like, someone in her sphere film something with her there.

[Ben Mandelker]

Did you say she was building tempeh or something?

[Danny]

She's milking cashews.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, she's fitting tempeh into a bun. That's what the thing is. But you're right. They would have had someone. They would have had, like, Dylan or someone go out there, you know, but no, she's just. She's not going. And she's not even going to pretend to go.

[Danny]

Or it would have been an event where it's like someone from Summer House Adjacent or something like that is like, oh, my God, you're at this event. I heard you're hanging out with. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And, like, if, Like, I feel like if it gets. If it's going to be. Happen, like, I. I just think you're at that point, you're. You're. If you're waiting around your apartment for the go. For the bat signal to go out to the Hamptons at that point, if you're really going to go. That's the thing, you know, I was okay with the pedicure. I'm letting her get the pedicure.

[Danny]

Because that's part of the event. Yes, please.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's why you got to make sure you look good. You can do that. Well, because once you go to manager.

[Danny]

And her team told her, if you're going to be in the city, do that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, yes. But. But once she's at Slutty Vegan, I'm like, no, okay, this is all a lie. You were never going to go because you're not. You're not going to risk spilling something. You're not going to get any vegan oil on you.

[Danny]

And also because that place, they. Because they're. Well, at least I know the. The vegan burger I had there. They loaded up. It's. It's. It's like. It's. It's a whole situation.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Yeah, I'm. I'm almost about to lose my tempe. Or about the situation, but I won't.

[Danny]

I just need the laptop.

[Ben Mandelker]

Wow. I feel like she's having some impulses that were inspired by Satan.

[Danny]

Satan himself, Charlie.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, she could have gone to New Jersey. It wouldn't have been impossible.

[Danny]

Impossible. Red Robin Burger.

[Ben Mandelker]

What's the other one's Impossible and beyond.

[Danny]

It'd be. It's beyond repair, what she's doing to Brooks on his birthday.

[Ben Mandelker]

Absolutely. She needs to be studied for lentil health.

[Danny]

That one is my favorite, I think.

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, thank you. Thank you. I'll End there comedies in threes and fives, but I just had to go for four. So we're back now we go back to the Jersey Shore. And so everyone's getting ready. So the theme for the night is Jersey Shore.

[Danny]

I know. I was like, okay, so we're being really creative here.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So they're just dressed up sort of just like Jersey Shore. Ish.

[Danny]

Yes. And also like Jersey Shore, the show, I guess, because everyone's like, oh, my God, you're slaying it. I'm like, you're in a skirt, Ariana. But okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, yeah, you look nice. I'm fine. And like, the. The. The extent of their theme is just that, like, they're. That's what they say the theme is because they just have like a standard table set downstairs.

[Danny]

That's my favorite. I'm like, they don't even leaving the premises.

[Ben Mandelker]

They're not going anywhere.

[Danny]

You all just did all this glam for. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

You just. You just dress up for Jersey Shore just to be with you old.

[Danny]

An Italian flag napkin.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's what it was.

[Danny]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

That was the. That was the. Shouldn't have been a. A. It should have been a Jersey state flag.

[Danny]

It should have been some Jersey tomatoes. They should have just put everything on that. Yeah. And a galette.

[Ben Mandelker]

A galette would have been delightful.

[Danny]

Right?

[Ben Mandelker]

Love a galette. I love a Gillette and a crostata. I wonder if they have that at slutty vegan.

[Danny]

Oh, what? Ava?

[Ben Mandelker]

Not. Yeah, I'll tell you who's not making it. Ava. She's like, oh, we just sold out. And you know, there's like five in the back, but she's too lazy to get them.

[Danny]

Or she'd be like, not me not making a galette right now.

[Ben Mandelker]

That'd be Georgia.

[Danny]

That's true.

[Ben Mandelker]

Not me asking for a galette right now. Am I right? Could have had a crazy galette. Oh, my God. My favorite actress, Toni Gillette.

[Danny]

She is an inflatable car sales thing outside.

[Ben Mandelker]

So meanwhile, Charlie. Here's another thing that Charlie does. Charlie, is how are you 29 and still talking about weed like you are 16?

[Danny]

And what's he saying? I'm smoking a johnson.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. He's like, I'm just gonna smoke a. Having a pre dinner Johnson as he FaceTimes. Ava.

[Danny]

I'm like, also, Charlie, where I'm from, that'd be called sucking a dick. I don't think you're doing it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, there's that too. A pre dinner Johnson having a pre dinner blowjob. It's what I call my dubies. It's like.

[Danny]

And also I like to. Because I'm sure production was like, hey, can you call Ava to show that she's not in the Hamptons? And she's like, I'm showering.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, yeah. She basically hangs up on him. It's like, okay. But she's caught because she lied.

[Danny]

She's.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's a liar. She was. She has tension with Ariana and she doesn't want to go to New Jersey. And that's just the. That's the beginning, the end of it. She was like, I already went to Jersey. I went to Gia's house. It was dumb. I don't want to go back.

[Danny]

I want Hamptons dog shit everywhere. I'm okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Dogs everywhere. I want to be with other models in the Hamptons. I want to be with other model people. I want to be with. I can't think of who are the. Who are the hot models these days? I don't know the models.

[Danny]

I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm like, I feel like after Rashumba, it's like I stopped following also because.

[Danny]

Now I'm like, what is a model? You know what I mean? Like, they. It's so evident low because I'm like, is Alex Earl amount? I have no clue.

[Ben Mandelker]

Is it. Is it Tate McCray? Oh, is it Addison Rae?

[Danny]

Is it the other Model 1 soundtrack? Maybe.

[Ben Mandelker]

F1 soundtrack as walking down. Is it the.

[Danny]

It's just all the cars. Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

I love that. I love the idea of like this season's hottest new model is the F1.

[Danny]

Soundtrack on Blu Ray. You're like, yeah, CDs are dumb, but we're putting on Blu Ray.

[Ben Mandelker]

By the way. I feel like I don't. Does Sandy Newton have a daughter? I feel like she should have like a Nepo child who should be a model. Wait, doesn't it feel like it's.

[Danny]

If not Thandi get on that. Yeah, it is beyond.

[Ben Mandelker]

It feels like it's time for a Thandi Newton Nepo baby.

[Danny]

And like, because, like, that is such a person who would have such a captivating Nepo child.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, that. You know, that would be a Nepo baby I would really support. There's some that you support that you're like, good for you. Good for capitalizing off your parents success.

[Danny]

Because as you should.

[Ben Mandelker]

As you should. You know, it's a great segue to a. An argument that they're going to get into in a little bit. But before they get into that argument, we have. We have another argument. First, we've trying to, like, remember what exact. I don't even remember what this argument was. Oh, of course we know what the argument's about.

[Danny]

The bowling alley.

[Ben Mandelker]

The bowling alley. So they're all right. They're all gathering at this. At the. At dinner and everything. And Georgia is like, guys, I have. I have a little bit of a mini announcement. Not me with a little mini announcement. Am I right? Okay, well, first and foremost, we're going to be doing a takeover of a nearby subway franchise with Diplo. So I hope everyone comes to that. Second of all, I'm potentially opening a new venue because I wrote it on a whiteboard. Okay. So underlined. It's pretty much open. Underlined. It used different colors, dry erase pens. We forgot to erase it. Which means it's gonna be there permanently. So we set an intention. It's there. It's gonna be a new club in New York City somewhere. And the concept is. Wait for it. Bowling alley club. Okay. And I was thinking, like, it's a place but you can bowl. Like, normally you don't get to bowl a lot, but you'll be able to do it more here. So we'll call it Bowl More Lanes. How about that? Do you guys like that? As in a concept bowling alley club?

[Danny]

And also, it's like, this is the place where. I think. Wasn't this where she met the girl and they bonded over Led Zeppelin?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. So that was apparently in, like, Brooklyn.

[Danny]

Oh, God.

[Ben Mandelker]

But. But of course. But like, she's acting like the. The boat. The bowling alley club is like a new concept. I'm like, lady, it's been around for about 20 years.

[Danny]

I was like, at least. But also, it's the funny thing, because she is so young, she doesn't know that. Yeah, whatever happened to bowling? I'm like, people are still going.

[Ben Mandelker]

People still go. People go to like. Like, there are like hipster bowling alleys. Like, that is already.

[Danny]

I was like. I'm like, there literally is a place in Brooklyn for that. Yeah, there's.

[Ben Mandelker]

There's a place in la, in Highland park that the bowling alley is, like, all old timey. Like, it's like steampunk and everything. It's like crazy. Like, it's just. It's just this has been done. And she's like, acting like she is just truly, like, reinvented.

[Danny]

She would have had a meltdown if they went to Asbury Park, New Jersey, where I think they should go, because there's an Asbury Lanes there where it's a concert venue that's on a bowling alley. And they served. They do serve food.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, I've got this great idea. I'm gonna do a. I'm gonna do a bowling alley club. And we play nothing but Bruce Springsteen. Okay.

[Danny]

Born to bowl.

[Ben Mandelker]

Bowling in the dark. So this is like her big idea. She's gonna open up. It's also funny. Like, why are you making an announcement? Because you just. You had an idea. There's nothing that indicates you are anywhere beyond having an idea with this concept.

[Danny]

It is so freeing and beautiful how stream of consciousness she is.

[Ben Mandelker]

She really is.

[Danny]

It actually could borderline admirational. It doesn't, but it. It is. I'm like, wow, she really wants to share the. It's almost Brittany Bateman esque.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like an EE Cummings poem. She just is like, abstract. You have to go through it a few times, you know?

[Danny]

But I'm so glad she did it because we got to. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because we got all this beautifulness. So she's like, okay, it's gonna be a great club because bowling is a great unifier, which I don't know if that's necessarily true. I love bowling, but I don't know if it's a great unifier.

[Danny]

Yeah, it's more so. Yeah. I don't think it's bringing the people. It's not going to be like. It's not. Kendall Jenner with the Pepsi.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you. Finally, someone says it. Okay, so she's like, in the spirit of having a great unifying event, we're gonna have, like. Like, we're going to. It'll be kind of like, very. It's this all very early phase. But I was going to throw a party next week at a bowling alley, and it's going to be nothing like the club that I'm planning. So if, like, you know. Have you ever heard of, like, proof of concept? This is called not proof of concept because it's not going to be like what I'm doing, but it's going to be bowling nonetheless. So anyway, I want to have a bowling alley that's a great unifier. And because it's a club, only certain people are going to be able to come in. Because it's a great unifier like that, you know. Yeah.

[Danny]

There's a guest list and no one can really like. It's actually only us. Because it's a cast event.

[Ben Mandelker]

There'll be way to unify a very specific segment of society that can all be unified together.

[Danny]

But I think in George's mind, that is unifying that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. She's like, okay, imagine like a brutalist space. Which I'm already like, what about a brutalist space as unifying literally in the name?

[Danny]

She's. Yeah, she's like, it's people that work at Sotheby's and downtown galleries. And how insane and esoteric is that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Totally unifying. There's going to be three to five lanes. Cement with like purple and also metal ass lanes. Lady, do you. There's a reason why they're not metal. There's a. There's like.

[Danny]

I'm like this. How what is going to work there? The funniest thing ever is like that casting is having a woman like this or a girl like this across from Gia Giudice. Because Gia doesn't know what. What is happening. Gia does not know what a Jordan feels like.

[Ben Mandelker]

What's a brutalist space? I don't understand what this is. Could we talk about what's a good space? I don't know what brutal is. I always thought space was always brutal.

[Danny]

Why do we always have to Italian family? I'm like, that's not really a genre either, my love. That's not a club. But. Huh.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's gonna be like Omar's gonna invest because, like, he's been wanting to a club for like a while. So, like, I don't want to have to spend millions of dollars, but everyone's like a bowling alley club. Like, that sucks. You know what I'm saying? First of all, you're also in a relationship with this guy so bad. Like, don't have your. Don't have like your boyfriend invests in your bowling alley.

[Danny]

Also a crypto thing too. Yeah, no, let's.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's like a brutalist bowling alley is already pretty tough with metal lanes. We're already. Where it's already an uphill battle, even if it is unifying. But not have the boyfriend. Not the boyfriend investing.

[Danny]

Not my boyfriend getting me intox evasion.

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[Ben Mandelker]

So Amira has some really constructive feedback. Amira says if I could offer a little piece of advice in this business adventure, I'm going to just give you a little piece of advice. Okay. If you plan to serve food there, I would just like not comment on what your patrons are eating ever. Everyone's like, what?

[Danny]

And goes fully over George's head.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, I wouldn't go over the Georgia McCann.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, I don't. I wasn't planning on having commentary about what they eat. Like, she's. She's like. I mean, I said, yeah, because that's just something you shouldn't do in general. Like, George still not. Does not get it. Admirer's, like, trying to drop all the hints. Like, I would. Like, you just shouldn't comment. Like, for instance, the other days, like, I pulled a burger out from Red Robin. Remember why I got Red Robin, everyone? You can't get that in Mallorca. Anyway, you immediately made the comment like, oh, my God, you're eating a burger. And I was like, yeah, I haven't had food all day long. And then you're like, wow, you're a zempic. Must be wearing off. And George is like, yeah, but we had a whole fridge full of food. That's why I was confused. I'm sorry. I didn't. I didn't mean to do that. And Amirah was like, no, it's totally fine. I just want to say that that's.

[Danny]

Like a Maya did fully back off. So she just want to get her point across.

[Ben Mandelker]

She was like. I was just, like, really upset. She's like, so did you have actual feedback about my business? No, I just wanted to say that.

[Danny]

Because I was like, well, just so you know, the food's going to be Sunday set up and, like, all of these and, like, trays, and you go buffet. And you. The thing that scared me, you scan your credit card and then just get food. I'm like, okay, so you're getting my credit card information.

[Ben Mandelker]

So it's a cafeteria, but then the best area brutalist cafeteria, Bowling alley.

[Danny]

Bowling alley. So I'm just getting hit in the head with a bowling ball in bowling shoes, and George is running it, so no one's washing their hands. I'm gonna get a staph infection by putting my fingers on the bowling ball.

[Ben Mandelker]

Literally not interested in this. And I love it. I just love how Georgia was just like, oh, my. Oh, oh, oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. Okay. Anyway, cafeteria treasures, here's what I think. No hand sanitizer. We just raw dog it. Okay. Hands in the sloppy Joe's.

[Danny]

She is like. She doesn't actually care what you're serving.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's like, you don't. She's like, no, I just wanted to say that. Oh, okay, well, that is a beautiful.

[Danny]

Georgia gets knocked out. She gets up like she is taba wampa or whatever.

[Ben Mandelker]

She doesn't care.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

So then Riley finally is like. I just have to say, you know what? No, I shouldn't say this. Like, what? Riley. She's like, it's a terrible idea. And they're like, riley, no.

[Danny]

Also I think is everyone was saying it in the confessionals and I from the fan. And I don't know if it's because I am. I don't know. I'm a Taurus. I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't.

[Danny]

Candy as I don't know when Riley's birthday is. I am the friend where I'm like, if my friend wants advice, tell them the advice. And I think it's because Georgia and Riley are getting. Because we had them have the whole cabana of hell because it was just the two of them. And Riley's probably bored of our mind on both phones situation where it's like, yeah, don't. Don't do this. Like, take your stuff to do something else. And everyone was like taken aback.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, everyone was like, everyone. Like, for, you know, as much as people like to be like, I'm a New Yorker, I like to say it how it is. You know what New Yorkers do? We just say it. We don't. We don't color. We don't. We don't candy coat anything. We don't. We don't look through like rose colored glasses. We just say it. And then Riley's like, yeah, it's a bad idea. They're like, riley, how could you do that? How could you say that?

[Danny]

Like, how I was going to get bowling shoes.

[Ben Mandelker]

How could you neg The. The brutalist bowling alley Cafeteria club. That unifies people who can get in.

[Danny]

And Riley's probably like, I was in an Uber from the hotel with this girl in a robe topless. So we're close enough for me to give feedback.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. They're also probably drunk. Riley and Georgia drunk because they were drinking those big Miami vices. Yeah, Miami vices. Exactly.

[Danny]

So.

[Ben Mandelker]

And the Gia's like, riley, don't be nasty. I'm like, have you met your own mother?

[Danny]

Gia, have you met yourself where the first episode, she's like, all you do is talk it. Like, where she was like, like putting her fingers in Charlie's face to be like, what are you talking? Before she met anybody or knew any stories about anything. So like, Gio, you enter hot and activated. Which I thought that's what she likes in people.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, I. I know. I mean, like, what did. Jay. You cannot sit there and act like you think this is a good idea. Even. You know, Gia, that this is a bad idea for a club. And it's not even a full idea. It's just, like, a whim that. That Georgia has.

[Danny]

And also the thing, too, I feel Riley was getting into it later on, where it's like, you want your boyfriend to invest in this, too? I'm like, it's. Every level of this is bad.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's bad. And so, yeah, Riley, by the way.

[Danny]

And.

[Ben Mandelker]

And by the way, Riley even said I shouldn't say that, and you guys begged her to say it. So then she said, it's a terrible idea, and then she's like, no, it's bad. I shouldn't have. I should have given some constructive feedback. My delivery is bad. Like, Riley was already, like, falling on her own sword, and then Gia was just, like, jumping on, like. It was rude. It was rude, babe. That was rude. Not rude, Gia.

[Danny]

What The. The rude, babe.

[Ben Mandelker]

Really?

[Danny]

That would have set me off because I'd have been like, the babe.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Danny]

I don't know. You like that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And then Ariana's like, well, because you said it was a terrible idea, and to somebody who's starting a new business, that's. She's not starting a new business. She wrote something on a whiteboard, and I don't want to hear it from you. You're acting like you're on Shark Tank when, like, you're. Your entire concept for your fashion line is pastels. I don't want to hear it. Ariana, even though I like you, I do like her.

[Danny]

The business is confusing to me, but I do like her. And I don't. In that moment, I think she was really trying to relate to Georgia in a moment of, like, people tearing down our businesses, where it's like, at least you have the swatches ready.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's true. And Ariana feels concerned that Georgia thinks that she's a mean girl. So Ariana's, like, trying to, like, maybe.

[Danny]

Like, Ariana is so. Yeah. She's so in her head all the time.

[Ben Mandelker]

And then. So then Gia starts to kind of gaslight Riley to be like, well, because you're drunk. Like, when you're. When you're. I think when you get. She goes. I think that when you get a little tipsy, you get a little rough, which is like. What are you really trying to say here, Gia? I was like, wait, yeah. Ariana's like, no, she's the Same when she's sober. She's exactly the same, which I do.

[Danny]

Everyone's like. And also I'm like, everyone is drinking at this table. So, like, what is going on here? And I'm like, gia, do you not remember, like, what the issue at your house was? But I feel like maybe she doesn't because she walked herself into just not caring again now.

[Ben Mandelker]

So G is like, I'm saying, I see her sober and I see her when she's drunk, and I see where the switch can flip a little bit. And what I'm saying is, I'm just, like, saying to help her, she gets a little rough.

[Danny]

I'm like, also rough. I'm like, I feel like. I feel has, like, a dry sense of humor type of thing where I'm like, the roughness. I'm like, the people who get rougher. Ariana and Gia. And I don't mind. I'm like, it's fine on the show. But I'm like, they are the ones who get.

[Ben Mandelker]

It's Charlie, it's Gia. Maybe Ari. Yeah, Ariana. But, like, Riley is. You're projecting something onto her, and it's not pretty what you're doing.

[Danny]

And it is interesting, too. I'm like, are you. I'm like, I don't know, G. Because we don't really see G. And the boyfriend. I'm like, do you get more, like, with the boyfriend around? Are you really not trying to act like Gia Giudice? But he's seen. Yeah. So I don't know.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. I don't know what's going on. So Riley, like, gets up and leaves, and Shy goes after her. And good on Shai. Like, you know, Shy. We haven't seen much of Shy, but good on Shai for being an ally.

[Danny]

But that's, like, everything I've seen of Shai. I love.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Is he a reality star? I don't know. But he seems like a good friend.

[Ben Mandelker]

He seems like a great assistant. I think it's. I'm sure. Like, I would love to get an appointment confirmation from Shai.

[Danny]

Yes. And I think he was the perfect sounding board. Like, just checking these available. I would love to get a mini bottle of water from Shy before getting dropped for something. But I feel like he was the perfect sounding board because he was able to make. He heard Riley and then also made her, like, laugh a little bit and then was kind of like, who the fuck cares what Geodubita thinks? I think that's kind of like the core of what they got to at the End where he's like, just fucking apologize to her. And this is.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, like, who the fuck cares? Like, we're not really friends with her. Like, we have to shoot with her. But let's. After this is done, we'll go back to the city and we don't have to deal with this idiot over here in Jersey.

[Danny]

Truly. We're gonna. We're gonna use easy pass to our own advantage.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Meanwhile, Brooks is there, still having an inner monologue. This is an ongoing bit that has been happening all episode, but we just haven't talked about it. But he's still. In case you're wondering where is Brooks? Because he is there. That's what he's. That's what he's doing.

[Danny]

I know. I feel like it's kind of a thing where, like the post production are like, hey, babe, you know, we kind of made the show around you.

[Ben Mandelker]

We're gonna need you there.

[Danny]

So we wrote these lines. Shy's gonna email them to you and let us know when you're ready to read them.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So Riley comes back to the table. She sort of hugs. GN's like, sorry, I got heated. Let's have a great night. They're like, okay. So now it's like later in the evening. And I mean, it's an episode that just keeps on giving.

[Danny]

Scene, the scene after scene. I mean, even the birthday cake under the fire alarm.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, yeah, that fire alarm set off by two candles.

[Danny]

I was like, this is a little two cents. I'm like, what the fuck is here? Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Because they've known these. These owners know. They're like, we've had some people in this. In this rental. This is the Jersey Shore. We want to. We'd rather be more cautious than not. Because we found out what happens when you're not.

[Danny]

A lot of people smoking their pre dinner Johnson's.

[Ben Mandelker]

Blow jobs. A lot of smoky blowjobs. Oh.

[Danny]

Smoking a lot of old fashioned.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Mm. So everyone's back at the house and Riley is trying to apologize to Georgia. She's like. She's like, georgia, I'm really sorry. I shouldn't have said that. I should have said something more positive. I'm not going delivery. And I know that. And Georgia's like, no, that's why I didn't really take offense. Like, I asked for feedback. You know, that's.

[Danny]

Georgia, in that moment was like, no, you're the only one who actually was doing what I wanted. Which is funny. We lost that moment at the dinner table when it's like, Georgia probably Appreciated watching back. Riley told me what you all were saying in your confessionals to me.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, exactly. So it seems like it's going okay, but then shy, he's like, you know, I don't think it matters that much. I don't think, you know, it's over. And I'm just confused why it's such a big deal that we're fighting about your club. I mean, we've dissected the most privileged argument. And here we go. George is like, wait, privileged. I mean, I literally have $4,000 in my bank account privileged. Which, by the way, that is a lot of money.

[Danny]

I was gonna say, wait, not me being in my 30s. Not even with that. I like Georgia. Huh. And also when she. Then they started going back and forth, and she's like, no, it's not just oh, my. Like, I manifested this.

[Ben Mandelker]

And she meant, oh, my good. Yes. She's like, I worked so hard. I manifested Omar coming. Do you know how much manifestation I had to do to have Omar come in and pay for everything that's not privileged. And there. And so then they get derailed in a whole conversation of what is privilege? And she. Georgia does not. Like, she will not hear it or understand it, which is, I guess, not surprising. But it's funny to me because I kind of felt like. Like a Gen Z. Like a Gen Z kid in New York City who often talks in kind of like therapy speak.

[Danny]

Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

And has been to therapy. Would be aware of. Of, like, the. The idea of privilege because there's been so many conversations about it over the past five years.

[Danny]

I think it is such a New York kid thing when I, like, meet kids born and raised in New York where they're like, oh, my God, I had it. So I. We were getting by, and then you find out, like, the getting by was that they only, like, had a house on, like, Long beach and not the Hamptons as, like, their second home or it's like, oh, my God, we were really scrapping. We only had a daytime doorman, not a nighttime.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, it's like just like when. Remember when Jessel was like, I had it so hard. I came to. I came to New York with nothing. And I was an intern, and I was staying at my uncle's house, and I was working in high fashion. It was basically poverty.

[Danny]

I was sleeping on a CB2 couch most nights. Yes. It pulled out to a queen with a Lisa mattress, but yes. So I think I feel that was make. Impeding Georgia from doing it probably also the bottle half of wine in Miami Vice and just her being like, no, Charlie's privilege, not me. But it's like you both are into different degrees.

[Ben Mandelker]

And it was also such a 24 year old like argument to have like while you're in like a, like a vacation home to be like arguing about privilege. Like this is what privilege means, man.

[Danny]

Nothing has. Also this show has really made me so happy to not be 24. But I also. Because what you were saying how Riley was never in the. Or wasn't really in the trailer at all. How did they not put in the trailer? Are you dumb? I'm not telling, I'm asking.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. That was a great line.

[Danny]

Heaven.

[Ben Mandelker]

Great line, great line. But yeah, basically they can't conceive like Georgia cannot conceive like a world in which that she's actually privileged. She really sees herself as like a product of bootstrap theory. And like, like if you're talking about like opening up a brutalist bowling alley club, like that's. It's a privileged industry. I mean it is a privilege to.

[Danny]

Be able to luxury dream of a failing business.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. To be able to have someone to be like, oh, I've got someone who's going to like invest a million dollars in to this terrible idea.

[Danny]

And not being like an assistant at an event coordination place, which is what most 23 year olds and 24 year olds who want to be event planners do.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Some might even say it's a privilege to not even wash your hands.

[Danny]

No, that. That still one of the most repulsive privilege to turn.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. To turn away. That's. I don't know. I'm not even going to get into what is a privilege or not. The point is that Georgia doesn't even. Can't even understand why she's privileged and everyone. And no one's even by the way, no one's even coming down on her for having privilege. Privilege. Riley's like, I'm not saying that like, because they were saying shading you. We all are. Yeah. Cuz George is like, well, it's my understanding that Riley comes from some sort of music legacy. When she. The fact that she's like some sort of like, she's like, I don't know. I've heard that there's a music legacy. I'm like, first of all, get yourself to your itunes and listen to no Scrubs.

[Danny]

No Scrubs.

[Ben Mandelker]

And also, don't think I'm say that sentence with a little bit more respect, please.

[Danny]

I'm also like, but. Or also you know what? While you're on Itunes show me the five Led Zeppelin songs you like, huh? Because what is this tattoo I want? No one was there to call her out on it. I didn't trust it.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's definitely giving that energy that I remember in, like, middle school when. When all the cool kids, like, learned about classic rock for the first time, and then suddenly it wasn't cool to like pop music. You had to like classic rock. I don't know if that was your experience, but it was like, suddenly I was like, embarrassed to have, like, have like a miracle ocd.

[Danny]

Oh, my.

[Ben Mandelker]

And it's like, because they're like, listening.

[Danny]

That's so the man. Like, what?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. If you weren't listening to Grateful Dead or if you weren't listening to Led Zeppelin, it was like.

[Danny]

And then it's the funny thing where it's like, guys, they're all on, like, Atlantic Records.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Danny]

They're all getting the same W9s. Like, what are we doing here?

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Talk about the great unifier. A W9. So basically. So basically, yeah. So they. They are, like, coming down. Like, it. Somehow Riley winds up.

[Danny]

She can't get a break.

[Ben Mandelker]

She can't get a break. Like, somehow she winds up having to defend the concept of privilege. Well, because Georgia keeps on saying, well, you brought it up. And she's like, I didn't bring it up. Shy brought up. And of course by now shy is gone.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And so they keep on saying, like, Riley, you bring it up. And then Ariana comes in and she's like, well, like, to be fair, like, you know, sometimes just because you say something doesn't mean it's true. And Ryan's like, oh, please, I don't want to hear any of this. Not from you two.

[Danny]

You don't know what we're talking about.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, you have no idea. So it pretty much just ends with. With that. With Riley and having to somehow be the one explaining privilege and having to defend it, even though it wasn't even the thing that she brought up. And she wasn't even lambasting anyone for it.

[Danny]

That's the thing. She was the one who was helping Georgia.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, she was helping Georgia. There. Didn't make any sense. But it was, by the way, to watch it, beautiful. It was so good. I loved a kids only episode.

[Danny]

I know. It was so. It was so nice and freeing. I'm so shocked. I mean, I guess because it is the first season. I'm shocked when it said next week is the season finale.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know. Well, episode seven. So, yeah, Freshman series, you know, they. You know, it's a good short and sweet seven episodes. Nothing dragging, just wanting more, you know.

[Danny]

Because that is leaving right now. We'll see what Ava Dash's Hamptons. No Hamptons. I'm worried if the main person who would be mad about that is Brooks, because I can't imagine a world where Brooks is going to confront her. But I guess Ariana or Gia would do that.

[Ben Mandelker]

Ariana would do it. Ariana would do it. Because Ariana doesn't like Eva anymore.

[Danny]

Because, you know, she aa with the ass attitude.

[Ben Mandelker]

With a ass attitude. Which, by the way, I was kind of on Ava side in that fight, though.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

I mean, it works in fashion. She's like, you don't look like a fashion designer.

[Danny]

And also we're. And, like, then her point, she's like, you're not. What is your point of view? You're telling. And I love you. When she's like, ariana, Riley, I'm living out of a suitcase. And Riley's like, that's impressive.

[Ben Mandelker]

Danny, thank you so much for subbing in for Ronnie today and talking about this wonderful show. Loved having you here.

[Danny]

It was so much fun. To talk to either of you boys is such a gift. Y' all are truly the best. Yes.

[Ben Mandelker]

You are great, too. Next time I'm in New York, we're going to have to get some drinks. I don't know when that'll be, but we will definitely have to hang out.

[Danny]

Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Talk about all these things. Maybe we can find. Maybe we can go to Slutty Vegan.

[Danny]

Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, please. Order up.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes, order up. She's definitely going to be working, too. I definitely see that she likes to do that.

[Danny]

And she'll. She'll be scrubbing her hands, running to the Hamptons back and forth. The longest commute, but it's worth it.

[Ben Mandelker]

Absolutely. Thank you so much. Dani, tell everyone where they can watch and listen to you and follow you on social media, by the way.

[Danny]

Yes. So I. You can follow me on social media at Cashmere Danny. Cashmere with a K. And then I host Page Six's virtual reality podcast with Evan Real, my fabulous co host. We do recaps, we do fun interviews with some of the reality stars you know and love. And then also, if you listen to Sirius XM, we do a morning show on Sirius XM stars, channel 109, page 6 radio every day from 8 to 10am and it replays throughout the day. It's fun time.

[Ben Mandelker]

And when the stars really align, you can see Danny and Evan on Bravo. In a flashback when someone's come onto their show and said something and gotten other cast members mad at them.

[Danny]

Oh, people have a lot of thoughts on Lexi Wood. She is my girl for the year. Because that. God bless. God bless my Canadian queen. She's not my Celine Dion. Thank you so much.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you, Dani. Thanks for being here and everyone. And we'll catch you on the next episode. Bye. Watch what crap. INS would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King it's always a party on Allison Block Our.

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