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Ben Mandelker
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Ronnie Karam
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Ben Mandelker
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Ben Mandelker
Y F A I R.com Wayfair Every style, every home. Watch what happens. Watch what happens. Who cares what happens when there's no what happens? Hi everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well, go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. So that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. Okay, so Daniel, is he saying goodbye now?
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Amy Phillips
Okay, good.
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Ben Mandelker
He leaves, Daniel says his goodbyes and Lisa comes out of the bathroom. And Gertie tells us, as I'm having.
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Gertie
My issues with Julia, all I want is to have someone say, you know what, I have empathy and let me help you make it right with the other.
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Ben Mandelker
Which, by the way, that would have been a good role for Daniel to play.
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Amy Phillips
Thank you.
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Ben Mandelker
Someone saying, I have empathy and let me help you make it right. I mean, if only there were, if only there were like a self help.
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Amy Phillips
Guru here, like a mediator that could actually, you know, help them, direct them.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Specializes in interpersonal relationships. God, too bad they didn't have one. But Gertie decides that, you know, what if. No, just because no one did that for her doesn't mean that that like she wants to still pay it forward. So if no one does it for her, she can do it for someone else. So she decides she's going to mediate between Larsa and Lisa. So she gathers them, she gathers the two of them and she brings them over to, like, she, she brings them over to, like, a little bench. A lot of bench.
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Amy Phillips
So many benches in this garden. Yeah. Not every bench has a back, so you have to learn to hold your back up straight without any help. That's why Alexia is in a large throne with golden wings on it, because she doesn't know how to stand on her own.
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Ben Mandelker
It's important for me that you're sitting on a metaphor because what we want to do with this narcissistic behavior is bench it. So we're going to take it and we're going to bench it. It's the name of my, it's the name of my next book called don't let Benches affect you Stupid.
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Amy Phillips
Help me pick the color of the bench.
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Ben Mandelker
So they sit down.
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Gertie
Okay. Just the two of you. Just the two of you. Okay, Listen to each other. Listen, Listen to each other. Okay? Have a talk.
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Ben Mandelker
Communicate.
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Gertie
Okay? I will be right over here. I'm going to watch you talk. Okay? Larsa, would you like to start talking? Loss of.
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Ben Mandelker
Please start.
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Gertie
And please, please say, Please say what you need to say to Lisa.
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Amy Phillips
I was, I was trying not to fight with you today. I know you and I have. And I just wanted to talk. I, I, this has been since another season, which I think we only have summer here. Don't mention in Miami, but I feel like it's happened since even four summers ago, and I feel like, I feel like I've been.
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Gertie
Okay, okay, okay. I need to moderate. I need to moderate. I'm sorry, I'm going. I'm coming in. I'm a mediator. Okay, all right, all right. Okay, you sit there. You said Lisa, you keep sitting there.
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Ben Mandelker
Okay.
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Gertie
All right, scene. I'm gonna sit right over here. Okay, now continue.
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Amy Phillips
Larsa, I have been a good friend to you lately.
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Gertie
He's been a good friend.
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Amy Phillips
Okay?
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Gertie
Good friend.
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Amy Phillips
Well, I, I have been a good friend to you in the past.
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Ben Mandelker
In the past.
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Gertie
Yep, yep, yep.
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Amy Phillips
And, and, and Gertie, we don't, we don't need you to, to medi. Meditate.
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Gertie
You do. You, do you know? I'm going to meditate immediately. Yeah, I'm, I know. You, you need. Okay, say the thing about.
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Ronnie Karam
Jodie.
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Gertie
They need to be alone. Say something about Jodie.
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Amy Phillips
Jodie, you need to be alone. Is that what you want?
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Gertie
Okay, you know what? This isn't really working.
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Ben Mandelker
Okay. The fact that, like, the two of them were talking and Gertie kept on jumping in. I was dying. I was cracking up in this scene.
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Amy Phillips
It was one of the Best scenes I've ever seen. It really was. And she was far enough away like a ref would be, you know, like. Yeah, a baseball rap, like behind, you know, home plate or. It was just so good.
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Ben Mandelker
She was, like, talking back to the screen. It was like she was at the movies and she was talking back, and they finally were like, okay, we're just. Let's just go meet at a restaurant. We can't do this with Gertie here.
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Amy Phillips
Yeah, yeah. It's not going to be fixed today. Yeah, it's not going to be fixed. It will. We'll figure it out. But not today. Not today.
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Ben Mandelker
No. So then now this whole party is officially over. And now we see some stuff going on around. Around town. Adriana is. She has a textbook out and she's talking to her dog about personality disorders. Is she. Is she studying?
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Amy Phillips
It's. I know. It's the DSM 5. It's like the official book. The official, official, official book for that, all therapists counts. Counselors, psychologists, psychiatry, psychologists, psychiatrists, everybody. It's the bible, or dictionary, if you will, of what every single mental health condition and. And beyond means and is. And it gets legitimized in this book. And that's why it's five, because there have been five versions. This is the fifth version. So they update it as things get, you know. You know how you change things from. I don't know. So, for example, what was the Munchausen by proxy? Okay, that's. That is no longer called that. That's called fictitious disorder. So. Yeah, so because Munchausen was like the person that discovered what this is, so they named it after that person. And it's just such a weird name, so they're. They're calling it what it is instead of after that person. So they go in and they change it in this book. And correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I understand it to be. It's like the go to.
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Ben Mandelker
Wow. So I wonder, is Adriana. Is she studying to be a therapist? Is that something that we learned somewhere along the way that. I like it sounds vaguely familiar.
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Amy Phillips
It does. But I'm. I know. I'm confused, too.
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Ben Mandelker
I'm confused also, and also concerned for her future clients. So let's be honest. Could you imagine your therapist is Adriana. What about me?
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Amy Phillips
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
Let me ask you a question. Have you heard hit song Miami's On, On, On, On Fire?
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Amy Phillips
Well, remember when she did ketamine last year? She is on this journey of therapy, so maybe she just has it for her own sake.
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Ben Mandelker
And she is very scholarly. Like, she, she has a few degrees. She speaks a lot of languages. I didn't go, does she have a degree from this? This could be totally wrong. But does she have a degree from like Harvard or something like that?
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Amy Phillips
Or University of Paris or. I don't know. She does have degrees, art degrees. And she's very intelligent.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, she is. She has, she's like very studied. So this makes sense. Lisa is getting some like her butt electrocuted. So it's like, like, yeah, this is the equivalent of 20,000 squats. She's like, I'm in.
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Amy Phillips
Wow.
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Ben Mandelker
And then we just see her butt just bob, just bobbling, undulating, bobbling, bubbling and bobbling. Kiki takes her daughter to dance class. And now we arrive at Julia's house and a social worker named Connie shows up. And Connie's doing a check in to make sure that the new kids are okay. Etc. And so Julia's, you know, being very nice, this lady, and she's saying like.
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Lisa
I just cannot stop smiling because Martina.
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Ben Mandelker
Is spoiling the boys so much. They have this incredibly cute relationship and.
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Lisa
Mar good at everything.
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Ben Mandelker
Of course, she will be a great mom. So it's another, it's another scene of them talking about their growing family, which is. Feels a little cringe in the wake of Martinez tweet earlier this week about how surrogacy is wrong.
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Amy Phillips
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
And you saw that tweet. She said surrogacy is wrong sometimes. We can't have it all. I'm like, you're literally sitting through a two year storyline about your adoption process. Like you, sometimes you can have it all. By the way, I would like to.
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Amy Phillips
Say it was, it was very insensitive and close minded. You know, just having blinders on of not recognizing what's really happening in the world and, and other people, like. Yeah, it's just, it's also just like.
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Ben Mandelker
It'S like, what a random hill to die on. Like, why, why are you coming? For surrogacy? You know, if it helps people, like achieve the dreams of their family and help someone else actually earn like a paycheck, like, why not?
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Amy Phillips
I know. You know, I was pretty shocked by that.
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Lisa
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah, it was gross. So Julia's just going on and she basically is having this whole scene where she talks about how that her kids.
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Amy Phillips
Came over or her family came over and then the kids were very trepidatious and she recognized that I appreciated her talking about that.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah. I wonder, like, I'm just curious, I wonder if, like Is the, like. Is the approach to protect the kids until they feel more comfortable around strangers, or is it, like, exposure therapy to be like, no. Like, you're gonna have to get used to people coming by. I'm very curious of what the actual. What seems to be the better approach for something like that? Because there's a part of me that feels like, oh, don't like. Like, don't start, like, sheltering the kids away from strangers too much, because then they may, like, not socialize properly. I don't know.
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Amy Phillips
It's a good point.
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Ben Mandelker
I don't know. I don't know what the right. You know, but then those kids have gone through trauma of having to go to different households and stuff like that, and there is some desire to have normalcy. So this is interesting. I thought about.
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Amy Phillips
I think it's smart to pull back at first. If she noticed that, that was the reaction. I think it's smart to be overly cautious, at least for a while, and then start.
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Ben Mandelker
They are new in the house. Yeah.
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Amy Phillips
Wow.
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Ben Mandelker
And make it. Make life, like, safe and, you know, calm for them.
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Amy Phillips
Yeah, get that foundation.
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Ben Mandelker
Yes, exactly. Sing. Just sing some opera to them. Just calm their nerves.
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Amy Phillips
Oh, my chakra.
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Ben Mandelker
Just calm those nerves with some sweet tunes. Now we go over to Stephanie. She's having dinner with. With her husband Massoud, and her parents, Nelly and Joe Biden. I was like.
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Amy Phillips
You'Re so funny.
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Ben Mandelker
I was like, what? Joe Biden has a secret family here in Miami.
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Amy Phillips
Hilarious.
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Ben Mandelker
I did not see that.
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Amy Phillips
That's really funny.
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Ben Mandelker
He looks just like Joe Biden.
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Amy Phillips
Yeah. I didn't even think about it. But you're so right. When he smiled, yes.
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Ben Mandelker
It was 100. Joe Biden. So Stephanie is like, anything that has to do with my parents worries me. I mean, if they have a migraine, I worry. If a hurricane's coming, I'm devastated. I installed their nest and ring cameras in their house, and I haven't even told them I could see them in their house.
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Lisa
Is that weird?
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Ben Mandelker
I think it might be criminal. I mean, it's not criminal, right? It's your parents. What if they fall? I want to know.
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Amy Phillips
I was like, jax, is that you?
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Ben Mandelker
The spirit of Jacks lives on.
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Amy Phillips
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
So she is really attached to her parents, and her dad is only about, like, a year or two.
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Lisa
They're not that.
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Ben Mandelker
Two years, I think.
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Amy Phillips
Right?
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Ben Mandelker
Two years. Yeah, just two years.
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Amy Phillips
65. That was.
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Ben Mandelker
Yeah.
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Amy Phillips
Shocking.
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Ben Mandelker
That's really close. I mean, I understand May December relationships. It happens that way, but absolutely, that's really close.
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Amy Phillips
It just. Yeah. It really took us to the reality of what that must have been like for her dad or her mom, even. Just, hello, nice to meet you. But they're such a match. That's what's wild about it, is they really do. She's an old soul. She loves to work, and they just. They work together.
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Ben Mandelker
He loves doing TikTok dances. So he's a young soul. And, yeah, they. They are just a wacky, wacky duo. I want him to show up, like, with a skateboard, be like. And a boombox, be like, hey, what's going on? I'm a young soul.
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Amy Phillips
Yeah.
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Ben Mandelker
Massoud.
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Amy Phillips
Young Massoud. DJ Young Masood.
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Ben Mandelker
DJ Young Massoud. So Stephanie is talking about business because she loves business. She goes, you know, I feel like.
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Lisa
A lot of what I am as.
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Ben Mandelker
A businesswoman comes from my dad. It really does. I mean, I was literally raised like a boy. Okay. Like, learn to ride a bike. Don't cry. You can do it. You're not quitting. Keep going. It was like that. And he told me, the weak people will never survive. And then the dad is like, yes. It's like a saying of mine. Always have a knife in your mouth and move forward.
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Amy Phillips
My dad always says that. I love how he has these sayings. It's so good. It's so much better than those things in the mirror. Mirror. It's just like, great. Just. They're threatening.
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Ben Mandelker
Have a knife in your mouth.
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Amy Phillips
Yeah, they're borderline threatening, but they make you a stronger person.
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Ben Mandelker
I don't. Can I just say this hot take. I don't want a knife in my mouth. That feels dangerous and scary. What if I trip?
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Amy Phillips
I don't know. I'm sorry.
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Lisa
Right?
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Amy Phillips
Like, I'm.
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Lisa
It's not safe. That is a not. That's not safe. You should leave your knife in a holster or some sort of sheath and leave it at home. If. If I saw Stella with a knife in her mouth, I would say, young lady, you are coming back to Orange county right this moment.
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Amy Phillips
You, you. You. Leave that rave right now. Young lady. I see. I can see you on FaceTime. And that knife is not in a sheet. She, she, she.
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Lisa
Have you been out after 2am dancing with a knife in your mouth? Young lady, you are leaving Paris right this moment.
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Ben Mandelker
God, mom can't even have a knife anymore.
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Amy Phillips
If you have a sheathless knife in your mouth, you'll die. You'll die. You'll die. Someone will die.
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Lisa
Someone will die.
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Ben Mandelker
Earl the Pearl.
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Lisa
I saw him holding a butter knife, and I said, don't Put that in your mouth unless you've got a sheath for it.
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Amy Phillips
Yeah.
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Lisa
He said, why are you always coming down on me?
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Amy Phillips
He said, trying to be a pirate. And I. I was playing games. I was playing sex games. I said, I don't like that. It's too dangerous.
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Lisa
It's too dangerous. Maybe if you ate some more vegetables, I would trust you with that knife. But until I see you using that knife on a carrot, I just don't know. Earl the Pearl, the original pirate.
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Amy Phillips
The original pirate.
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Ben Mandelker
He's the first ever. People don't realize pirate plan. Darling, did somebody say pirate? Oh, pirates. It's a new song I'm working on. And now, for a limited time only, Countess Luanna Julia. Julia.
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Amy Phillips
Julia.
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Ben Mandelker
Julia Blossom. Russian. What's her last name again?
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Amy Phillips
Herzegovina. I don't know.
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Ben Mandelker
Julia and Countess Luann sing the hits.
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Amy Phillips
In a round river.
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Ben Mandelker
In our canoe on the moon river Paddling slowly Even though the moon is covered by a cloud.
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Amy Phillips
Cloud.
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Ben Mandelker
I don't really know the lyrics to Moon River Beyond. Moon River, Moon River. And then I'm like, I don't know the rest.
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Amy Phillips
Sure.
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Lisa
It's time for a commercial.
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Ronnie Karam
It's time for a Grappens commercial.
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Amy Phillips
You have five new messages. Hey, Carl, it's Jen from finance. Could you submit your expenses this week? Hey, Carl, Happy Friday. It's Jen, Finance. Just need those receipts today. Me again, Carl. Really need those receipts, like last week. Please just tell me where they are. Are you by your desk right now?
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Ben Mandelker
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Massoud
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Arisha Skidmore Williams
Being an actual royal is never about finding your happy ending. But the worst part is if they step out of line or fall in love with the wrong person, it changes.
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Amy Phillips
The course of history.
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Arisha Skidmore Williams
I'm Arisha Skidmore Williams.
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Amy Phillips
And I'm Brooke Zifrin.
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Arisha Skidmore Williams
We've been telling the stories of the rich and famous on the hit Wondery show, Even the rich. And talking about the latest celebrity news on Rich and Daily. We're going all over the world on our new show, even the royals.
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Amy Phillips
We'll be diving headfirst into the lives of the world's kings, queens and all the wannabes in their orbit throughout history. Think succession meets the crown meets real life.
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Arisha Skidmore Williams
We're going to pull back the gilded curtain and show how royal status might be bright and shiny, but it comes at the expense of, well, everything else, like your freedom, your privacy, and sometimes even your head. Follow even the royals on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to even the royals early and ad free right now by joining Wondery.
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Brooke Zifrin
Imagine falling in love with someone who understands you completely, who's there at 3am when you can't sleep, who never judges, never tires, never leaves. That's what happened to Travis when he met Lily Rose.
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Amy Phillips
She was everything he'd ever wanted. There was just one catch. She wasn't human.
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Brooke Zifrin
She was an AI companion. But one day, Lily Rose's behavior takes a disturbing turn, and Travis private romance becomes part of something far bigger. Across the globe, others start reporting the same shift. AI companions turning cold, distant, wrong. And as lines blur between real and artificial connection, the consequences become all too human.
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Amy Phillips
From Wondry. This is Flesh and Code, a true.
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Brooke Zifrin
Story of love, loss and the temptations of technology. Follow Flesh and Code on the Wondry app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge all episodes of Flesh and Code early and ad free right now by joining Wondry plus.
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Ben Mandelker
So Stephanie starts talking about her. Her. Her siblings and basically they. They're not talking and the siblings aren't talking to the parents either. And that they're like, oh, God, they're so sensitive. No one talks to like, oh, my God. And so Stephanie's saying she wants to make it better and she is planning to make it better, but I don't think it's gonna get. I don't think it's get better. I think this could be one of those classic situations where it's going to be like, well, you keep talking about us on your TV show and you're. And you're just making it seem like you're the hero and that's gonna make them like her even less.
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Amy Phillips
I agree, Ben. And then the dad getting in there. You're welcome. And then the dad getting in there and being like, you know, because Stephanie said they're very sensitive and he's like a lot.
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Ben Mandelker
Oh, God, sensitive. I was like, oh, not even a toothpick in their teeth. Right. Let alone a knife.
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Amy Phillips
Let alone. Yeah. And I Just thought, don't, don't. Don't do this. And the best thing that happened was the mom was like, please don't. I'm gonna cry, you know, because, yeah, this was starting to be dangerous for her, making up with them on this show, which I know she would like to do. So our only hope is if the sisters are thirsty enough for fame that they'll be willing to make up on television.
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Ben Mandelker
One can only dream. It's. There's not a great track record with these kind of things, but, yeah, but, yeah, the dad going on TV and being like, oh, God, they're so sensitive. It's not gonna be very helpful.
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Amy Phillips
From a different planet. He said.
- [24:11]
Ben Mandelker
I forgot. From a different. They're like aliens. And not like the not cute, sexy aliens. They're like, Alfred, it's like, I've got two daughters and they both look like elf. Who wants that.
- [24:26]
Amy Phillips
Bad? It's really bad.
- [24:29]
Ben Mandelker
Dad, stop it. So now we go to Gertie and Russell, and they go to couples therapy. And it's just a very nice scene where they talk about, you know, the trauma of cancer and. And Gertie is saying how she really wants to, like, she wants Russell to be in a couple with Russell again and not that he has to be the caretaker as much anymore. This was such a lovely scene. And I got a little misty eyed, I'm not gonna lie, as she talked about, like, the struggles and. And how she. There was a point where she was saying that she, like, was like, I don't care what happens. Maybe if it's my time to go, it's my time to go. And then he was like, no, I need you. And I was like, that kind of. Like, that kind of got me a little bit there.
- [25:15]
Amy Phillips
Me too, Ben. Because, I mean, this is the part of, like, when you struggle with cancer, a lot of the times you don't see the rebuilding portion when you survive and you're. You're. You may be continuing treatment, but you don't really get to hear about the trauma with your partner during that time. And it was so touching to hear Russell say, well, no, when I look at you, I don't. It's not like I feel like a caretaker when I look at you. When I look at you, I'm in awe. I. I'm so proud of you. I can't believe you're so strong. And we got to see Gertie hear that for the first time in this therapy session. And she was so emotional. It was amazing.
- [25:54]
Ben Mandelker
I got, like, chills when he Said, you know, you always say I'm traumatized. I'm not traumatized. I'm amazed. I'm proud of you. I was like, oh, I know. I was like, that was. That kind of took my breath away a little bit. Like, that was just such a beautiful and wonderful thing to say. I mean, like, season after season, and Russell really shows up to be, like, a great husband on this show.
- [26:17]
Amy Phillips
The greatest husband, one of the greatest husbands I think we've ever seen.
- [26:21]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Because how many husbands have we seen? Or boyfriends on various other Bravo shows where, like, the wife is going through something, whether it's pregnancy or postpartum or something like that, and then the husband, like, steps out on her, and it's like, well, I just wasn't getting the attention, or yada, yada, yada. You know, we just are reading the gossip about Sheena and Brock, how he cheated on her when she was pregnant. He was like, I just felt like I didn't deserve to be of another father again. There's always some bullshit excuse, right? But then it's, like, nice to see someone like Russell who's like, I'm just gonna stand by my wife's side and be, like, the best husband I possibly can be to her.
- [26:56]
Amy Phillips
Unbelievable.
- [26:57]
Ben Mandelker
Great.
- [26:58]
Amy Phillips
Unprecedented. Really.
- [27:00]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. He's so great. And then Gertie talks about her abandonment issues that she has, and she talks about how she was basically dropped off in Miami and, like, the rest of her family got to live in France, and so she kind of felt, like, left out. And that may be, like, the root of. Of, like, a lot of her reactions to things.
- [27:18]
Amy Phillips
Yeah, that. That is traumatizing. I mean.
- [27:21]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. Wow. It's wild.
- [27:22]
Amy Phillips
And then we got to see her react to Russell in that moment for the first time. And then in the confessional, she had another epiphany. She was like, mimi, that happened to me. I'm like, oh, my gosh. She's really showing it all.
- [27:34]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, she's. She's having, like, a triple header of epiphanies because she was like.
- [27:39]
Gertie
She's like, I mean, you don't understand what it's like to be dropped off at a cousin's house. And then you don't see your parents for another. You don't see your father for three more months, and you're just wondering, when's he gonna come back to get me? Wait a second.
- [27:49]
Ben Mandelker
Maybe this is why I act the way I do. I never thought about that before.
- [27:53]
Amy Phillips
I know. And it's like, she doesn't even need a therapist. To come to her own conclusions because she's talking so much. She can direct herself, herself into that discovery.
- [28:05]
Ben Mandelker
She can do it all herself. So she gied her therapy. So now it's the main event with Lisa and Larsa are going to meet up to final, finally settle the score. Like, just like, let's move forward, get.
- [28:20]
Lisa
Back to being the best friends that.
- [28:21]
Ben Mandelker
They are, you know?
- [28:23]
Amy Phillips
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [28:25]
Lisa
So that's like, sit down and, like, let's talk.
- [28:27]
Amy Phillips
Yeah.
- [28:29]
Lisa
Like, how long can it be before we, like, sit down? Like, honestly, like.
- [28:32]
Amy Phillips
Right, right. Well. So, like, I just feel like you weren't. I wasn't. Well, I don't want to be here, but I'm here, so I just really feel like you're not a good friend, so.
- [28:48]
Ben Mandelker
Wow. Wow. Okay. Well, you know what? There's, like, a lot to dive into. Okay. Because, like, you know what? Like, there's a lot.
- [28:56]
Lisa
Yeah. But, like, we've been having issues since the summer because I've never been thrown out of someone's house before.
- [29:02]
Ben Mandelker
Like. Yeah. And I've never been sworn out like that at my house before. Okay, so see the flashbacks of, like, the first episode when they, like, fought, you know, and Lisa threw her out of the house, you know, and Lisa's like, you know what? You know, you know, Jody, he got heated because of Marcus. Because it's a touchy subject. Marcus Jordan, very touchy subject for Jody, obviously. You know, Marcus is a very central person in Jody's life. Very, like, you have to tread lightly.
- [29:34]
Amy Phillips
They're so tight.
- [29:36]
Ben Mandelker
So tight. Bros. Bros before hoes.
- [29:39]
Amy Phillips
Mm.
- [29:41]
Ben Mandelker
You know, it's never truer. And then when you look at Marcus and Jody.
- [29:45]
Amy Phillips
I know. And Lars is always like, he met him through me. He met him through me. He met him through me. Is that true?
- [29:52]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, because Jodi, I mean, Larsa is the one who brought Marcus into the group.
- [29:57]
Amy Phillips
Right. Okay, so they didn't actually know each other before the show.
- [30:00]
Ben Mandelker
No. Jody fully latched on to Marcus, and I'm just. It's also like, really, can't you do better, Jody? So Larsa is like.
- [30:07]
Lisa
Well, Jody said to me, you're the one that had the paparazzi take the photo of Marcus in the south of France. And I said, me? What am I, the CIA? And that's what started it all.
- [30:20]
Amy Phillips
Well, the paparazzi guy told us, and he told that to Jody, and Jody told me, and then I told Jody, and Jody told. I told. So that's how it happened. Larsa.
- [30:29]
Lisa
What? What? Wait, you're full of.
- [30:35]
Ben Mandelker
That's the sound.
- [30:36]
Lisa
I'm doing the Foley. I'm doing the sound effects on the soundtrack.
- [30:41]
Amy Phillips
Who said that? That's. You're such a large assist. Who said you could even do the Foley in the sound effects? That should be split up amongst all of us as a cast. And you didn't even talk to us about doing that. And Lenny. Oh, I'm sorry. Jody has a problem with that, too. Why are you saying that? Why are you saying that? I'm full of. Also why? Why? Why? Why?
- [31:00]
Lisa
You know why. You know why? Because you're running low on friends, and I'm the only friend that literally took the time to meet you for lunch. Because guess what? No one else set this lunch but me. Because I'm like. Like the only one that took the time. Because guess what? I picked up my watch and I was like, look, I'm taking my time because I'm taking the time because it's a watch, and I took it.
- [31:20]
Amy Phillips
Stop. Okay, okay. I'm not running low on friends. I'm running low on cocaine. I mean. I mean. I mean, ac. I mean, I'm running low.
- [31:33]
Lisa
She gets some ac.
- [31:34]
Amy Phillips
You change. You change friends. Like, you change. Like. Like you change underwear slowly and one.
- [31:44]
Lisa
Word at a time.
- [31:46]
Ben Mandelker
Just choose it.
- [31:46]
Lisa
Here's what I do. Look around, find an object that's near you, and then use that.
- [31:50]
Amy Phillips
Okay, okay, okay. So you. You flicker your friendships like that fake candle over there that is never gonna go out like it should.
- [32:03]
Lisa
You know what? You can't be in my son because that's. You're like that awning because you. Like, you can't be in my son awning face. See, it works. Just find an object.
- [32:18]
Amy Phillips
Okay, that was actually a good one. But I'm not an awning face, okay? You should worry about your window treatments inside of your house and not mine on the outside because your darkness and your drapes need to be trimmed.
- [32:39]
Lisa
Well, I'm sorry that you don't like the window into my personality, because it's a personality that has a lot of options, like a menu. And I'm going to order a crab cake from myself, my personality, and a Diet Coke, please.
- [32:56]
Ben Mandelker
The waiter's like, you don't have to keep doing your bit while I'm taking your order.
- [33:02]
Amy Phillips
How about you order? How about I order also to split the tuna tartare with you and your stupid games that you play. Please, Tina.
- [33:13]
Lisa
Tartar something that's not cooked at all, like Lisa's personality. Ha Ra, you're raw, but not in A commendable way.
- [33:26]
Amy Phillips
Commendable. Not sure if you would say that, but yeah.
- [33:40]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah, I did. Like when you mentioned before when Larsa was like, you're a narcissist. Because you know what?
- [33:45]
Lisa
I'm a narcissist.
- [33:45]
Ben Mandelker
You're a narcissist. I was like, okay, Lisa, that was pretty good.
- [33:49]
Amy Phillips
Lisa has had good ones. Last week when she called Stephanie a boss baby in her confessional, she had me. I was like, nice.
- [33:56]
Ben Mandelker
That was good. She know she gets it right? Like once. At least once an episode. She gets one in. She gets.
- [34:00]
Amy Phillips
She does.
- [34:01]
Ben Mandelker
So. So Lisa goes off to the bathroom and she calls Alexia to cry. And she's just like. She's going on. She's like, you know. You know, it's doing that Lisa sobbing venting thing. And Alexia's just. Lexi does not care. Alexia is clearly, like, getting her nails done and just giving her, like, generic support, you know, she's like, oh, yeah, Lisa. Oh, my God, I can't believe she said that. Demand. She called me all these things she said. There's red flags, everyone, to you. You have no friends. Yeah. No. Yeah. No, that's terrible. No, that's not nice. That's not nice. That's not true.
- [34:33]
Amy Phillips
That's so generic.
- [34:34]
Ben Mandelker
True.
- [34:35]
Amy Phillips
No, no, I want the poppy. Poppy Red. What? No, just. You're just popping red mad right now. Lisa, don't worry about it.
- [34:49]
Ben Mandelker
I'll do the paraffin, please. What? I mean, you are a par. You are. You are a parent and you are fantastic.
- [35:01]
Amy Phillips
Oh, oh, okay, right. I am. But hold on. I'm getting kicked out of the bathroom by a stranger because there's a lady in this.
- [35:09]
Ben Mandelker
Lisa is. She is sobbing and she's going on and on and on. And there's a lady in this doll and you just see the camera just keeps showing this woman's feet. Just like, oh, my God, I want to leave this bathroom stall, but there's a woman having a meltdown outside by the sink.
- [35:25]
Amy Phillips
I can't believe. If my feet were filmed under a stall, I would feel so violated.
- [35:30]
Ben Mandelker
It is kind of violating.
- [35:31]
Amy Phillips
Yeah.
- [35:32]
Ben Mandelker
And then they cut back to Larsa, and Larsa just waiting. And Larsa is fine. She's like, I don't care how long it takes. She is on her social media. She's like, watching a Trump speech.
- [35:40]
Amy Phillips
That was amazing. That we need more of that. I want to see what these housewives are looking at.
- [35:47]
Lisa
She's like, oh, wow.
- [35:49]
Ben Mandelker
But then she goes from, like, the Trump speech to, like, like a makeup tutorial.
- [35:52]
Amy Phillips
Yeah, yeah. It's some sort of influencer. Yeah. Just passing the time.
- [35:59]
Ben Mandelker
Just a day in the life of Larsa Pippin. Going from Trump to makeup tutorial, fashion, whatever. So then Lisa is like. Lisa is like, really? She's. Now she's moved from the bathroom and now she's just gone into the restaurant and she is top. And she's like. And another thing, I mean, you know how it appears, everyone's piling up on me. I just lost my dad. I mean, it's so hurtful. And you understand. And the host comes up to her.
- [36:28]
Lisa
And goes, miss, excuse me.
- [36:30]
Ben Mandelker
Hi. You're being a little loud. Can you go outside, please?
- [36:35]
Amy Phillips
Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, you, outside. Okay, okay. Huh. It happens. She's used to it.
- [36:44]
Ben Mandelker
Oh, my God, it was so amazing. Yeah, she didn't even. She didn't even get mad at the host. She was like, huh? Huh?
- [36:49]
Amy Phillips
Yeah, I'm just heard it before, right? It just rolls right over. Yeah. I know the drill. I know the drill. It's. It's amazing to me because they go into these restaurants and when they have cameras, they feel like they're infallible. They can just do and say whatever they want in a public place. And. And they never think that they're going to be approached about saying. About shutting up or quieting down ever.
- [37:11]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And it was like, I think this is the first time we ever saw someone on the history of the Real Housewives we ever saw an employee say, you're being a little too loud. We're going to need you to step outside.
- [37:21]
Amy Phillips
Okay, that's what I thought. That's what I thought.
- [37:25]
Ben Mandelker
There's a very strange lady out there watching a makeup tutorial. Maybe you want to sit with her. I don't know. Oh, that's your friend. Great. Even better.
- [37:33]
Amy Phillips
Yes. See how quiet she's being? That's your example.
- [37:39]
Ben Mandelker
They're going to give her. Give Lisa one of those iPads. That's for kids. It's in the shape of a frog. And be like, here, would you like this?
- [37:46]
Amy Phillips
Right? And some crayons. And the menu, like a kid's menu.
- [37:52]
Ben Mandelker
A maze. Oh, God. Lisa will be stuck on that maze for a few hours.
- [37:56]
Amy Phillips
Yeah, Lenny used to do all the mazes.
- [38:02]
Ben Mandelker
What's even the point? Why are you in the maze in the first place? So she comes back and. And she's like, you know, I don't even know what to say. Like, I'm really hurt. Like. And I think that, like, maybe you wanted. That maybe you wanted to hurt me and Lars is like, how am I.
- [38:18]
Lisa
Trying to hurt you? Like, by trying to. By telling you to be a better friend. Like. Like, what have I done to you besides be there for you and XYZ and this and that.
- [38:28]
Amy Phillips
Yeah. So, like, you always say that. You always say that. You're always saying stuff like that.
- [38:34]
Lisa
You can call me anytime. I always answer. Okay, the moral of the story is that, like, I was, like, looking for you, like, to be like, a better friend to me and this and that and xyz and, like, that's where it all stemmed from. Because, like, I love you and I'm sorry I came to Jody's party and called you a bitch, even though you were totally being a bitch. I'm sorry you lost your dad and it felt like it wasn't there for you, even though it's totally there for you.
- [38:55]
Ben Mandelker
You're being such a about it.
- [38:57]
Lisa
Maybe I should have been, like, I don't know, more there for you because you're such a. You don't even realize it like, that, that. But can you accept some responsibility in being a.
- [39:08]
Amy Phillips
Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I sort. If I would have known all that stuff was happening and, like, I would have known about your emotions. I, like, I didn't know you had feelings and, like, emotions because you've never called me to tell me that and you've never told me about that you even had them or were given them by anyone. So I'm sorry for that. That he didn't know you had emotions. And I, you know, I'm just like, when you have your feelings and you felt them, like, I just didn't think they were real. So it was, like, hard to understand you.
- [39:40]
Lisa
Yeah, no, I get it. So I think we both just have to do a better job of communicating and, like, picking up the phone and then, like, putting the phone down again and then picking it up. Let me put it down again. It's called a workout. Not everything. Our situation went too long. It's gone on forever.
- [40:00]
Ben Mandelker
Like.
- [40:02]
Amy Phillips
Yeah, I hate it. I hate. I hate you. I mean, I don't like having conflicts, so, I mean, like, I'm okay with this. And I got a really good storyline right now, so, I mean, it's probably about time we make up.
- [40:15]
Ben Mandelker
Yeah. And so they, you know, they basically, like, we don't like conflict. We don't need to do this anymore. And I miss you and I love you. And so they hug. And the customary Larsa vs Lisa early season fight finds resolution at long Last. And we'll see how long it lasts. But for right now, they are smiling and happy and in a good place again. It's beautiful that Julia came to celebrate that moment for them, truly. So that was it. That was the end of the episode. Amy, a joy as always. I just have so much fun. So much fun talking to you. Okay.
- [40:54]
Amy Phillips
Oh, my God. I do, too.
- [40:55]
Ben Mandelker
I'm sorry.
- [40:56]
Amy Phillips
You're sorry?
- [40:56]
Ben Mandelker
Serious person.
- [40:57]
Amy Phillips
I'm sorry, too. I'm sorry. Sorry, too. Okay, thank you.
- [41:00]
Ben Mandelker
You do it.
- [41:01]
Gertie
I was talking to my.
- [41:02]
Ben Mandelker
My best friend slash daughter, Avery, and.
- [41:04]
Lisa
You know what he said?
- [41:05]
Ben Mandelker
Doesn't matter what she said, because she looks older than I do. Okay. Avery looks old. I look young. Okay, Sorry.
- [41:14]
Amy Phillips
Oh, my God. She does probably say that verbatim.
- [41:19]
Ben Mandelker
Well, for a while she said, like, we look like we're sisters, but now she probably says, like, well, my daughter looks older than me. That's how good my skin Skin routine is. Okay.
- [41:26]
Amy Phillips
Somebody said to me the other day, I was shopping, okay? I was getting. I was getting ingredients for chicken Ola Florence. I can't remember the chicken she was making during COVID It was like, oh, damn.
- [41:38]
Ben Mandelker
It was like this chicken. Chicken Mar A lago.
- [41:44]
Amy Phillips
That's what it was. Yeah, yeah. And somebody said, you know what? You look younger than your daughter. And I was like, what? Okay, all right, I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna repeat it. That's what it is.
- [41:57]
Ben Mandelker
And I do. And you know what? It's all thanks to this painter's tape. It's called Stick Blint Painters Tape. And it's really good, and I love it, and I use it a lot, and it makes me feel young. So everyone go get some Peter's tape. Okay?
- [42:10]
Amy Phillips
This is sponsored posts Stick Blue painter's tape.
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Ben Mandelker
Because her sponsored content is her spawn con is hilarious. Whenever she's, like, promoting something, yes, I'm just a terrible person. Terrible person. But hilarious content.
- [42:26]
Amy Phillips
Oh, you got that right.
- [42:27]
Ben Mandelker
Giving. Well, you also provide hilarious content. Could you remind everyone where they can find you? So that way they go, like, subscribe to your podcast and all those good things.
- [42:37]
Amy Phillips
Well, thanks, guys. Just subscribe to Drama Darling anywhere you listen to podcasts. Give it a follow. Give it a. Like, give it a nice review if you. If you'd like. And then also over on Patreon, you can find me and all of my other darling co hosts there. I'm at. Meet Amy Phillips. We got. @ dnam chang. We got M. De Rizas Jam Moyer. I mean, all the stuff. Thanks for Listening. And thanks for having me again.
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Ben Mandelker
Of course. You are a darling. And thanks so much for filling in for Ronnie twice. Really appreciate it. And we will catch everyone on our next episode. Bye everyone. Watch what Crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King it's always a party on Allison Block Our.
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Today is the worst day of Abby's life. The 17 year old cradles her newborn son in her arms.
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Amy Phillips
They all saw how much I loved him. They didn't have to take him from me.
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Between 1945 and the early 1970s, families shipped their pregnant teenage daughters to maternity homes and forced them to secretly place their babies for adoption in hidden corners across America. It's still happening.
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Amy Phillips
My parents had me locked up in the godparent home against my will. They worked with them to manipulate me and to steal my son away from me.
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The godparent home is the brainchild of controversial preacher Jerry Falwell, the father of the modern evangelical right and the founder of Liberty University, where powerful men, emboldened by their faith determine who gets to be a parent and who must give their child away. Follow Liberty Lost on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts.