#2937 Below Deck S12E08 Part 1: French Toasted

Summary

Episode #2937: Below Deck S12E08 Part 1 - French Toasted
Hosts: Ben Mandelker & Ronnie Karam
Release Date: July 22, 2025

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Introduction to Below Deck Day

Ben and Ronnie kick off the episode with their characteristic humor, delving straight into the latest happenings on Below Deck. They set the stage by announcing their excitement for the show's current drama and teasing upcoming segments, including an Amazon Live event scheduled for 5:30 PM Pacific Time.

Major Plot Points and Character Dynamics

Rainbow's Struggles and Leadership Challenges

A significant portion of the discussion centers around Rainbow, a key crew member facing mounting pressure. Ronnie empathizes with Rainbow's attempts to maintain harmony on the boat, stating:

"Just accept it. I remember one time my mom was hanging out when my sister was in college... she's like, party. You know, she started like coming out with our friends and she started drinking too much and starting fights with people and it was awkward." (08:02)

Ben echoes this sentiment, emphasizing the importance of authenticity:

"Whether or not she's actually a nice person is immaterial. She's not being her authentic self because she's trying to be accepted by these people who don't seem to really care about her." (10:13)

They critique Rainbow's efforts to fit in, suggesting that embracing her true self might garner more genuine respect from her peers.

Fraser and Damo's Unexpected Romance

The hosts delve into the budding relationship between Fraser and Damo, analyzing Fraser's character development:

"It's funny to live at a time that like a guy asking another guy out to dinner just because he wants to know more about him is like, what? That's crazy." (13:02)

Ronnie highlights Fraser's robotic demeanor, humorously labeling him as:

"He's a robot." (47:12)

Despite the initial awkwardness, Ben and Ronnie find the storyline entertaining, particularly Fraser's struggle to express emotions:

"He's a robot. So when he's like... being gay, I never want to show any of myself." (47:27)

Critique of the Instagram Wall Feature

A recurring theme in the episode is the hosts' frustration with Below Deck's new feature: the Instagram Wall. Ben vents his irritation:

"I just can't stand this Instagram wall more and more. I hate to sound like a negative Nelly, like an unhappy Ursula, like a sad Sally." (17:00)

Ronnie shares similar sentiments, criticizing the forced tonal shifts and the superficial nature of the content displayed:

"What I'm sick of in these Instagram pop up things is the stories are all the same... Every single person on this show is blaming their parent for literally everything." (20:31)

They argue that the Instagram Wall disrupts the show's flow, making it more about personal traumas than the yacht's operations.

Humorous Interludes and Pop Culture References

Ben and Ronnie infuse the conversation with humor, referencing various pop culture elements and exaggerating scenarios for comedic effect. Notably, Ben brings up the Secretary Bird:

"They use secretaries to step on snakes in the grass. That's why I'm bringing this up. And Rainbow needs to be like a secretary bird and step on those snakes." (25:43)

Ronnie adds to the jest by personifying the bird:

"They're like Phyllis D., they've got these big... " (27:19)

These lighthearted moments provide a break from the intense discussions, showcasing the hosts' playful dynamic.

Emotional Outbursts and Crew Tensions

The episode delves into the emotional turmoil among the crew. Rainbow's breakdown and subsequent actions lead to heated exchanges:

"She's like, oh, no, I want to apologize. Never apologize. Actually, you should apologize to me." (57:37)

Ben criticizes Rainbow's lack of genuine emotion, while Ronnie mocks her overreactions:

"She's trying to retaliate against Solane for making out with Scottish. But Barbara calls that... she's like, you're trying to make her jealous." (37:40)

The tension culminates in discussions about loyalty, trust, and betrayal among the crew members.

Final Thoughts and Teasers for Part Two

As the episode wraps up, Ben and Ronnie hint at continuing the discussion in part two, promising more insights and recaps:

"Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there." (59:28)

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Notable Quotes

• Ben: "I just can't stand this Instagram wall more and more. I hate to sound like a negative Nelly, like an unhappy Ursula, like a sad Sally." (17:00)

• Ronnie: "She got a trip to an island. My mom just did that in our backyard. I mean, what the hell?" (22:33)

• Ben: "Whether or not she's actually a nice person is immaterial. She's not being her authentic self because she's trying to be accepted by these people who don't seem to really care about her." (10:13)

• Ronnie: "What I'm sick of in these Instagram pop up things is the stories are all the same..." (20:31)

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Conclusion

In this episode of Watch What Crappens, Ben and Ronnie offer a blend of critical analysis and comedic relief as they navigate the latest drama unfolding on Below Deck. From dissecting character motivations to lampooning new show features, they provide listeners with a thorough and entertaining recap. Part two promises to delve deeper into the unresolved tensions, ensuring that fans stay hooked until the very end.

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Transcript

[Ben]

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[Travis]

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[TJ Raphael]

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[Ben]

Who cares what happens when there's so much that.

[Ronnie]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens the soothing sounds of Watch what happens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, you little Benny tune. What you doing?

[Ben]

Hi. How's it going, snookums? Good, snookums. Good.

[Ronnie]

Good tits. Well, welcome everybody, to the show. It's Below Deck Day over here. We're all in love with each other. Ben. I'm in love with Danny Pellegrino. I'm sorry, I've got.

[Ben]

Oh, no. Well, I just kissed. I just kissed Barbara in retaliation.

[Ronnie]

It. Damn it, Barbara. She was holding so steadfastly to being a lesbian.

[Ben]

I know.

[Ronnie]

Well, I guess a lesbian sweater gay are kind of a lesbian couple.

[Ben]

I tricked her. I put. I put on a wig and I said, I'm a lady and I tricked her. It was very rude of me.

[Ronnie]

Very easily tricked after being stuck on that boat. Well, welcome everybody, to Below Deck Day. Tonight is also the date of our very first Amazon Live. We're very excited, so join us for that. That's going to be at 5:30pm Pacific Time, and we have no idea how that's going to go, but it should be so fun.

[Ben]

It's going to be outrageously fun. I'm so excited today. Yes. I already pulled. I was like. I just went into my Amazon history and I was like, what are five items that I really have enjoyed recently? I've pulled. I pulled them. They're ready to go. I am. This is the moment I feel like I've been waiting for, you know, is to talk about, like, scoops. It's ready. It's gonna be. It's gonna happen. It's gonna be wild. There will be a pan, there will be a scoop, and there will be a few other things.

[Ronnie]

You've already had so much practice, Ben. So I'm excited for you, really. I'm excited for us, but mostly for you. Because this is really a big day for you, everybody. I just wanted to put that awkward pass in there for fun. I'm playing, I'm playing with the, the.

[Ben]

No, it was perfectly timed because Dom just walked in and gave me a straw.

[Ronnie]

I was pausing for a straw. I don't know why I did that. I just started with my Starbucks label, you know, like the little label on my Starbucks. I'm just like playing with it. So I need to focus because it's a very big. It's below deck. It's a very, very serious show.

[Ben]

It is very serious.

[Ronnie]

You know, I'm a huge straw fan. I don't get, I don't get. I don't get fan girl whenever I see any actual celebrity. But when I see a straw, I'm like, fuck, yes, straws. You know what? Straws are so strong. I am so proud of straws for remaining in our culture even after you got canceled. You know? I love you straws.

[Ben]

Well, well, I'm doing a straw puppet show right now. It's walking in front of my microphone.

[Ronnie]

I like to call it Go. Wait, Go away.

[Ben]

I just saw Flo last night. This reminds me of that bird that was in Flow. So I have a lot of thoughts on that movie too, by the way. So you just all wait for that one.

[Ronnie]

What's it called?

[Ben]

Flo. I thought you watched it with your dog, didn't you?

[Ronnie]

No. What's that? Flo.

[Ben]

Flo. It won the Oscar for best animated movie and it's about a cat that goes on a journey, meets other animals. But the whole thing with the movie is that they use real like real audio of like cats and dogs, nature sounds. So everyone who watches it with their pets, their pets kind of like are entranced because they think they're, they're hearing nature and they all like walk up to the TV and like watch the movie and there's all these tick tocks of cats like just staring at the, at the screen like, what the hell? And like dogs and like the animals love it. And it was really lovely. It was a beautiful movie. And I, I thought you'd seen it for some reason. I thought you would said that you'd watch it with Bueller.

[Ronnie]

No, no, I watched the one about the hooker that won the Oscar.

[Ben]

Well, they're very similar movies.

[Ronnie]

That was also a name. What was that?

[Ben]

A Nora. They both. Yeah, they both, they both, they're both about journeys.

[Ronnie]

What was her name?

[Ben]

They're both about journeys, they're both about workers. And they both have Erika Jayne on the soundtrack. So. But what I wanted to say. What I wanted to say, though, is shout out to Chelsea devontez because the episode I did with her of Glamorous Trash, which is her podcast that's all about celebrity memoirs. I was so lucky enough to be a guest on her podcast where we discussed the autobiography of Sheena Shay. So that book, I think, drops today. And so the podcast is dropping later today at some point. So go check that out. Because we had so much fun breaking down that whole ridiculous autobiography. It was like the funniest read I've had in quite some time. It was definitely funnier than Dune. And so that was great. And another shout out is that we're gonna be. Keep your ears open. We're gonna be on Julia Cunningham. Julia Cunningham show on Sirius xm where it may be a pre tomorrow, but so I don't know if it's live tomorrow, but keep your ears out because we will be on there. So just a shout out to our friends who are having us on our their shows. Yes.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I've been reading a lot of the Sheena. The Sheena article. Oh, Brock cheated on me. So I've been reading. I mean, she's everywhere. You know, she knows. She knows acting like being cheated on is like winning an Oscar. I mean, that girl is making the rounds. Like, did you hear I got cheated on? Did you hear I got cheated on? Did you hear I get cheated?

[Ben]

Like, I was so mad.

[Ronnie]

Like you were ripping a loose people about staying with some fucking cheater Sheena. Like, what the hell? Oh, my God.

[Ben]

Anyone who. Anyone who read the excerpt in Glamour magazine, saw that she wrote. She writes in her excerpt. I was so mad that I threw a Rubik's Cube at Brock. And to this day, I cannot look at a Rubik's Cube without being triggered up to that pain. And it's like, I love this. To this day, I can't look at a Rubik's Cube anymore. And the thing is this. Her entire book is like that. It's like, to this day, I can't drive by a Carabas without thinking about that painful chapter in my life.

[Ronnie]

As if Sheena's ever had a day where she wasn't triggered by a Rubik's Cube. You kidding me? I can't even believe she allowed one of those things in her home.

[Ben]

Honestly, it is actually a shocking. That's a very shocking truth. Like, she was like, look at this cube. You can move it in any different direction. It changes colors. We must have. Wait a minute.

[Ronnie]

You're supposed to get all the colors in one square.

[Ben]

I was just about to get all the sheet. It's four corners.

[Ronnie]

It's like 16. Okay. Anyway, the point is below deck, bad romance. So we opened with a fun rainbow breakdown, which I just. I love any show that I can just start cracking up whenever the show starts. I love that rainbow. It just starts with Rainbow. Like, girls don't like me because they tattled on her for fucking up something in the maid service, you know, so they were like. Fraser's like, girls, who's in charge of the master? And they're like that. That girl over there. The rainbow. You girls. Who threw me under the bus.

[Ben]

Yeah. Rainbow, it's time to stop trying to be friends with these girls. They don't like you. They're. No matter what you try to do, they're still gonna throw you under the bus. So I say just unleash your. Your outer. Maybe your inner. Whatever you're. You're trapped on an island and just like make their lives hell at this. Okay, if you're not going to help me and you're not going to be friends with me, then fine, do like fold this, make that, put that fitted sheet on that bed, and like, get out of my face. I just say go full bitch.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Look, I think you should be who you are. You know what I mean? Because when people try to change, it just doesn't work. It doesn't work. I mean, people can change. Sure, it takes a lot of work. You have to really want to. But I think at your. At your core, you don't really change. And Rainbow, it's not working. You trying to be a nice person, it's like an alien coming down to the earth and trying to, like, fit in. It just doesn't work. You're just not a nice person. Just accept it. I remember one time my mom was hanging out when my sister was in college. I went to Austin to stay with my sister for a while and was like partying with her friends. It was so fun. Cause we're like a few years apart, so it wasn't that awkward. But it will be when I do it with my nieces, because I'm planning to. But anyway, at the time, my mom was living in El Paso and we were in Austin, so she came and she was having so much fun that she started. She moved there. Like, she was like, party. You know, she started like coming out with our friends and she started drinking too much and starting fights with people and it was awkward. Okay. And so I Had a moment. I was like, listen, you can't be starting fights with my friends. That's it. You've got to stop drinking. And so she did. It was horrible. It was the most horrible, I think, two months of all of our lives. And finally we had to sit down with my mom and say, it's okay if you drink. Go back to the five and dime, Jimmy Dean. Jimmy Dean. Because it's just who you are, you know, Some people just need a couple of drinks. Like, whatever it takes. Just stop trying to be this other person. Well, that's making us all crazier than the person who is getting us kicked out of restaurants. You know, I'd rather be kicked out of a restaurant than suffer through being in a restaurant with somebody who's making me fucking crazy with their fake new personality. And that's you, Rainbow, Okay? Just Rhonda yourself. Just be Rhonda.

[Ben]

It's a very true thing. I mean, you. What you're basically saying is it's. Whether or not she's actually a nice person is immaterial. She's not being her authentic self because she's trying to be accepted by these people who don't seem to really care about her. And Rainbow also has to ask herself a question, which is, does she actually like these people? She's so concerned with wanting to be. Wanting to fit in and wanting to be liked that I'm not sure if she's actually considered whether she actually likes Barbara or Celine or anyone else on this boat. So she should just be herself, do her thing. And even if she. Even if her authentic self is being a little crusty and a little bitchy, they probably will respect her more for that. They may complain, but they probably will respect her more for just being herself. And they may also inherently be more drawn to that because that's just who she is. So, yeah, yeah, you heard it here first.

[Ronnie]

So she's kind of. She's just kind of a dick. I mean, I can see why people don't really like her. She speaks to people. She speaks down to people. She's not. She's just not a cool person, you know? So if you're. If you have that, and that's. Just wear it like a badge, you know?

[Ben]

She doesn't know how to relate. And I think if she stops trying to relate, that maybe she could just. She will relate. Which is the paradox of human. The human condition.

[Ronnie]

Ain't it, though? So Anthony is like, oh, it is fine. It is together. We are together. Don't worry. Later. I Will wear straw hat and have a fit. I will outshadow every stupid mistake you make today. And she's like, I know, but I need to go. And so Barbara. Cause Barbara comes in and sees this and she's like, whoa, what is happening? And Rainbow's like, nothing, I just need to go.

[Ben]

Cut to Lane still drinking whatever that beverage is in the mason jar or whatever that looks sort of like beer, but maybe apple juice. You know, I think I deserve a break. Which he probably says every five minutes. So Rainbow goes to cry in her crying corner and then Fraser is like, oh my gosh, I don't feel very awake. I'm horrifying. It's awful. And Deo's like, well, you look immaculate, cuz Damo's sort of being flirty with Fraser now. That's like his new thing. But he's straight. But he's also kind of like maybe curious. We don't really know.

[Ronnie]

I like that Fraser can be exhausted and his eyes are still like pinwheels, completely open. Like, blink, blink. Look how exhausted I am. You look the same as you did yesterday. You look like a party party city skeleton at Halloween. Your eyes are always the same amount of open.

[Ben]

He's like, thank you. That's what I've been going for all these years of not eating.

[Ronnie]

He is getting this kind of typical storyline. I mean, most gay guys have this storyline in our past of the straight guy who just needs attention from somebody so he flirts with the gay guy or whatever. Like I've had that. You know, I actually kind of think fondly back on some of that story.

[Ben]

I enjoy when I enjoy that some.

[Ronnie]

Hurt more than others. I'm not gonna lie. I like that it's a plot this season on this show. But yeah, some of us have that. I will say I. I think Fraser's lucky because I don't think I've ever been manipulated in a way where I get dinner. I mean, this guy's like, let's go on a date. I mean, I think that's right. That's like not standard.

[Ben]

Yeah. It's also funny. Like we live at a time. It's also funny to live at a time that like a guy asking another guy out to dinner just because he wants to know more about him is like, what? That's crazy. He must be secretly homosexual. He must. He's confused. He's queer baiting or homosexual. What's wrong with him? It's like he's just asking somebody. It's like, hey, you seem cool. I want to get to know more about you. But we're like, what? Now? Admittedly, it's the context of this show where the only time people go on one on one one dinners is on a date. I get it. But it is funny that we're like, what? This is crazy.

[Ronnie]

Well, and after they made out.

[Ben]

True. And after he said, like, oh, I'm not really gay, but, like, maybe I would be gay, but, like, I don't know. I'm straight, but, like, I have.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I like guys doing this whole. Yeah, he's clearly playing the game. I think. So now Rainbow comes to Fraser, or Fraser comes to her, because I think he's like, what is that teapot that keeps steaming and then stopping and then steaming and. Oh, it's Rainbow. Rainbow, what's up, babe? And she's like, I just, you know, like, I just. I got frustrated because after the tip meeting, I sent them to the cabins to strip the beds. And then there's no communication of like, hey, we did the bottom ones, but the master's not done. You know, it's like, it's very much like, Rainbow will do it. No, Rainbow. See, and that's why people don't like you. Right there is your retelling of the story. That is not what happened. You were supposed to do the master and you didn't do it. And then when they got questioned, they said it was your job. That's what happened. Don't make it sound like these girls are just trying to throw you under the bus for nothing. You at least gave them a bus to throw under. Well, I guess that wouldn't work because then you're throwing a bus under a bus, but you know what I mean.

[Ben]

Well, if you want to know what happens next on the show, unfortunately, you're going to have to wait because here comes a wall of Instagram photos to stop the show in its tracks so that way Rainbow can have a monologue.

[Ronnie]

It is nice to see a cast member who has an Instagram photo that's not covered in, like, bikini shots and. Or speedo shots.

[Ben]

You know, it's just like Rainbow with, like, blood on her hands and, like, a little, like an island setting, but like a Dutch flag behind it and, like, crying. And the caption says, I miss my.

[Ronnie]

Sister insisting she has sisters.

[Ben]

No, I. I mean, I ranted about this when. When you were gone last week. I was ranting about this because I really can't stand this Instagram. Like, how they stopped the show for this because they could include the exact same audio clip. I Don't mind what is said after the Instagram wall and everything, but in the past, whenever anyone, whenever they layer in backstory with people, they just layer it in. They just play it and the show just goes forward. But here they like stop the whole show to be like, wait, let's have a moment with this person. Let's have an Instagram wall. Let's put their name up really big as if we're about to do something really momentous. And then they give us an anecdote about their lives that nine times out of ten is not very interesting. And like, we would have had that anecdote anyway, but by forcing us actually like stop and pay attention to it, it's like more annoying. Whereas before you could let it just sort of like tumble over you and you move on. So I'm like, really? Every passing week, I dislike the Instagram wall more and more. I hate to sound like a negative Nelly, like a, a, like an unhappy Ursula, like a sad Sally.

[Ronnie]

Be you like, that's the point of the show today.

[Ben]

Like a, like a yucky Yana. But. But I am done with the Instagram.

[Ronnie]

Terrible Terry. But you know, you know.

[Ben]

I mean, I love, I love Below Deck. I just don't like this tweak that they've made. And it's not me not being able to adapt to a new thing. Okay? I just, just think the Instagram wall, every time it pops up, I get so annoyed.

[Ronnie]

Okay, it's time for a commercial. It's time for a Grappens commercial.

[TJ Raphael]

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[Ronnie]

They all saw how much I loved him.

[Ben]

They didn't have to take him from me.

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[Ben]

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[Ben]

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[Ronnie]

You know, I have to disagree with you just because I'm, you know, a contrary Calliope today.

[Ben]

Contrary? Mary?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, because I like it. Because I think you can tell so much about a person from looking at their Facebook feed. And these are basically vapid people. I mean, you can tell I'm not their Facebook, their Instagram feed. You can tell a lot about me. I have nothing inside. I barely post. There's nothing there. There's nothing to post. I have nothing going on. So you can tell that about me. Unless there's something cute in my proximity that I can like, squelch likes off of, like my nieces or my dog or a baby, you know, I'll put those on. But otherwise there's nothing going on in my life. So I think that says people in like swimsuits and, I don't know, swimsuits, that's basically all it is. Maybe they just need to get more interesting Instagram feeds, you know, like, get those people who like, rescue ducks. Like, I saw one yesterday where a guy built there. There were ducks that made a nest at a. A top of a building, like a window on top of a building. And he was worried that the ducks were going to jump out of the nest and die on the sidewalk. And so he built like a wooden cage to put the duck. I mean, that's an Instagram feed, you know.

[Ben]

So they caged the ducks. It's like, I was worried that you might actually feel the taste of freedom. So I put you in a cage and now you're quote, unquote safe.

[Ronnie]

See, that makes it interesting because you're like, is this guy a hero? Or did he just, you know, condemn these ducks to death because they never learned to fly? Like, are they going to grow up in a cage? When are they Ever going to learn to fly? How is this going to gonna work? And then there's comments like, well, no, the ducks need to jump out of the. I think it was a German thing. That's why I'm doing that. But they're like, no, I think the ducks have to jump out because they just bounce on the sidewalk anyway. And then there's like a whole discussion about ducks bouncing off sidewalks.

[Ben]

Yeah. I mean, let me tell you something. If there was ever an argument to go watch Flow, it's this duck situation. I mean, talk about watching nature do what nature does. It's that movie Flow.

[Ronnie]

Okay, What I'm sick of in these Instagram pop up things is the stories are all the same. And this whole entire show, this entire season is full of people who can't let their childhood go. And I get that. I'm just told a story about my mother and I'm almost 50, so maybe that's just a human condition thing where we can never let it go. But every single person on this show is blaming their parent for literally everything. Like, she blames her dad for throwing her on an island to beat up her sisters. Then we just got.

[Ben]

By the way, that one's there.

[Ronnie]

I'm gonna give that one having no emotions. Then we've got the other. Then we've got a guy who. This guy Damo blaming his dad for, you know, not really wanting him when he was a kid. Everyone's whole life is revolving around their parents. You know what? Bring back elder abuse. That's what I say. Just tell your parents off. Give them a shot of something with saline in it. Get rid of them. I mean, how are we ever going to get over these people? They're just torturers. They're torturers.

[Ben]

I, I am gonna, I'm gonna give Rainbow, like, I understand. Like, we do. There's a lot of, like, this is my, my tough childhood. Boohoo. Here I am. I'm below deck. That happens on these shows. I'm gonna, I'm gonna give it to Rainbow. I think being put on an island in the middle of Holland and being forced to fight with your sisters for an hour, that's like fair. That's like a fair thing to bring up on a reality show.

[Ronnie]

She got a trip to an island. My mom just did that in our backyard. I mean, what the hell?

[Ben]

It was a Dutch. It was a very pragmatic island. It was a Dutch island.

[Ronnie]

She got a vacation and a ride on a boat somewhere. My mom was just like, here's a wooden spoon. Here's a fly swatter. You two go at it. I'm sick of dealing with you little.

[Ben]

You're like, we want our old mother back. Who is when you're like, 25. Yeah. I just can't stand this whole Instagram thing. It's not even the. It's not even the Instagram wall. I don't mind that there's an Instagram wall that comes flying up. I just don't like that there is a tonal shift that says, whatever you're watching, we're gonna put that on pause and we're gonna dwell here in the miseries of these. Of these maids. And I'm like, I don't. Like, I just don't care enough. Like, I. I'm okay if I. If my. If I'm concerned about what's happening at the bar. Bar. Like, someone didn't wash that bar. I need to know what's going on with that bar. And then while that's happening, someone's like, this is just like my childhood where I was always washing the bar. I'm like, that's fine.

[Ronnie]

That works out usually.

[Ben]

But if it's like. But if that's how it normally is. But if I'm like, someone needs to wash that bar. And like, stop. Let's hear what Barbara has to say. It's like, as a child, I grew up and I always used to like ducks. And then one time, my father put the cage around the duck, and then I was like, you have to worry about the duck. So that's why I don't like to clean the bar, because I don't want to cage the duck on the bar.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, I get it. I like. I do kind of like the classic below deck style of, like, they're cleaning a toilet, there's like a poop speck on it that they're about to throw up on. And then it's like. And I was traumatized by my dad leaving me. You know, it does. It does make more sense like, that.

[Ben]

I also. I also like when I'm caught by surprise by it. Because the thing is, when the Instagram wall comes up, then, you know, okay, I'm gonna have to sit and listen to someone's trauma, whereas if I don't know that it's coming, it's like, oh, my God, when they can clean that bar. Wait, she was put on an island and she had to fight with her sisters. But what about that bar? You know, Like, I. I kind The. The blindsiding of it all.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, okay, well, you know, What? Noted. And hopefully someone from production is. Is watching this.

[Ben]

You know, I hope so. I hope so.

[Ronnie]

We get over to Rainbow's monologue of the day, which she's. She's such a good teammate. She's trying to do everything. I mean, she's getting herself to the point of having nervous breakdowns because she's doing so much work for everybody. To which I say, boohoo. That's all your fucking fault. You're the delegator. And you know what? What? You're a bad delegator, okay?

[Ben]

Dell, you're a bad Del in the end. Bad Dell. Della, you're a Della, not Reese.

[Ronnie]

Della. The gate is opener, okay? You left the gate open. The dog is now out running around in the streets. You're very bad at this, okay? So if you're just bad at your job, just say you're bad at your job.

[Ben]

And she's like, well, they. That. You know, the first opportunity they got, they took out their shotgun and they took the shot. Snakes in the grass. I'm like, are you telling me snakes can handle a shotgun? Because that is terrifying. She's like, they. They took out their shotgun. Those snakes took out their shotgun and they shot me. You know what they should do? Okay, I hate to belabor this point. This is not about the Instagram wall. That's. That's not belabored anymore. I want to talk about the Granby flow.

[Ronnie]

Oh, Jesus. For the fucking cat movie. I can't.

[Ben]

There is a very elegant and pissed off bird in that movie, and it's called. The real Burger Root. Is called a secretary bird, which is funny that there's a bird called a secretary bird. It's like a bird that's like. Mr. Mushnick, I got a call for you on line one.

[Ronnie]

Mr. Mushnick. Mr. Mushnick. They're not taking no for an answer. I told them you weren't in. But they're coming. They're coming. They're in there. Are they in there? You want me to bring you guys some coffee?

[Ben]

Mr. Mushnick, the bedrooms aren't ready, but Rainbow didn't get them ready in time. What do you want me to do, Mr. Mushnick? Nick. But they're called secretary birds. And I looked them up, and they're basically eagles that have the legs of a stork. And so they're basically these, like. They're like, sexy. Like, sexy birds with long legs, and they use their legs to stomp on snakes in the grass. And that's why I'm bringing This up. And Rainbow needs to be like a secretary bird and be like, boom. And just step on those snakes on the grass. And in the end, we're gonna be like, yes, icon. Rather than be like, oh, you're so lame. Like, step on those snakes like a good secretary bird. Like the one in flow. I really, by the way, look up a secretary bird. You're gonna be so impressed. You're gonna be like. You're gonna have a gay moment. You're gonna turn full. Like, full. Like your gayness is gonna go up 50%. Because these are like gay icon birds. They just like. They are. They have a fabulous. They have a fabulous hairstyle and they have.

[Ronnie]

Oh, these are fabulous. Birds are like Phyllis D. They've got these big.

[Ben]

Right?

[Ronnie]

Yeah, these are amazing, actually.

[Ben]

Wait till you see. They're. I mean, look at. Look at this one. Hold on. I'm going to show it. I'm going to show it on. It's. It's two.

[Ronnie]

Oh, that's what I was just doing, too. We have to show people this.

[Ben]

Show the one. Well, okay, I'll tell you. Go into the. Go into the. More images.

[Ronnie]

Okay.

[Ben]

And then look up. Look at the one.

[Ronnie]

The.

[Ben]

The fourth one. The fourth one in the first top row. Look at that.

[Ronnie]

Oh, my God, that's crazy. Look at that human showgirl leg eggs. That's nuts.

[Ben]

The very elegant yet feisty secretary bird. She's like. She's like, the second. I know why it's the secretary bird. Because this is the one that the boss sleeps with that he cheats on. This is the. Let me tell you, the CEO of Astronomer were a bird. Yeah, the CEO of Astronomer were a bird. It would be making out with this one at a Coldplay concert.

[Ronnie]

Your husband is. Is definitely leaving. And she doesn't even care either. She's like, yeah, you can't steal a man. You know, that's the secretary. The secretary probably has, like, word art on her desk. It's like, you can't steal a man.

[Ben]

By the way, secretary has a sister.

[Ronnie]

This what we're looking at right now. This is an acceptable Instagram wall for your. For your deck. They should.

[Ben]

If Secretary Berg. Secretary bird were a stew, I would. I would stop the show ten times over to look at the Instagram wall and hear what the secretary bird has to say. You know, the secretary bird, before leaves the nest, is always, like, talking to his sister. Like, Mr. Mushnick's gonna take me out to a nice dinner tonight. It's like, oh, come on, you gotta stop seeing Him. He's never gonna give you what you want. No, he's gonna leave her. I swear to go on. No, he won't. Never do it. And the way you get them is the way you lose them. Watch out, Pam.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, this Secretary Bird's not around, man, I wouldn't trust this Secretary Bird. And you know, she always smells like gum and powder.

[Ben]

Oh. Huh. All right, and watch this.

[Ronnie]

So we're gonna be here for 10 hours today. You know, the audience doesn't need this from us. They don't need this from our. They don't need this shit from us. They didn't deserve it. They don't.

[Ben]

They don't.

[Ronnie]

Although if we're gonna do an Africa or if we're gonna do an Instagram wall, that's a good one, because, look, you also get this grumpy old man of the waterhole, which is, I guess, a rhino with a spotty nose.

[Ben]

This is.

[Ronnie]

This is the way to do an Instagram. While I'm below deck. Tell me about Rainbow's tragedy while I'm looking at this spotted nose rhinoceros, and it's called the. The Old man of the Water Hole.

[Ben]

A random picture of Nelson Mandela. Nelson Mandela would have turned 107 today.

[Ronnie]

Wow. People would have been asking what vitamins he took, that's for sure.

[Ben]

Interesting.

[Ronnie]

So many things could have happened. Okay, let's get back to it. So a lot happened in this episode. A lot of cleaning. So Rainbow's traumatized because everybody threw under the bus. So Fraser's like, I'm dealing with it. I just want you to trust me with that. That. All right? Me, Fraser, who never tries to cause problems among my staff and who doesn't relish in every moment of a woman crying. Go back to cleaning your master bedroom. That's taking you 19 hours.

[Ben]

So then we go to Carrie Facetiming with the sun. Sawyer, who's gonna get braces. And Carrie's like, my son Sawyer is 15, and this year he'll start driving. So watch out, people, on the road, because you're about to have an adventure. Being away from my family is the whole. The hardest part of yachting. I want to take him to school in the morning and get him at lunchtime, you know, and then drop him off again after lunch time and then pick him up after school again, and then deal with the other kids who are like, wow, your dad's really overbearing. And I said, well, guess what? I want to be there for him. All right? So I'm gonna ask him out his day and being there and hold him and really just smother him and really make him very, very annoyed. Let's be honest. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it.

[Ronnie]

It's really difficult getting used to taking your kids to school and then it's used to. It's really difficult getting used to just being on the boat all the time, you know? I mean, here I just want to be in carpool in there. I'm always trying to pull into the tiniest spot I can. Just to prove that's possible, I need you to call the distances of this parking space. Sawyer. God damn it.

[Ben]

I know him. Every time. He's just be a bus driver, but he'd probably annoy all the kids. He'd be like, all right, kids, everyone be quiet back there. I need perfect silence. I'm pulling into the driveway. All right? Silence. Okay, I can't hear the calls.

[Ronnie]

All right, fenders. Fenders out. I said fenders out. I need communication. Where your radio? We don't have radio, so shut up. You're all fired. Getting you a plane ticket.

[Ben]

All right, we're halfway through the school year and what I'm seeing is complacency. All right? We can't be complacent. We got a whole the half of the school year. All right? So go get him now, kids, you all got tipped. Everyone gets five Jolly Ranches.

[Ronnie]

So sorry is driving. Yay. We don't see Captain carry Instagram, do we?

[Ben]

Thank God.

[Ronnie]

No, that I just want to see. I feel like.

[Ben]

Well, it's more. I'm saying thank God because I just.

[Ronnie]

Listen, I've learned how to make a tortilla.

[Ben]

I like when they show, like, the young Captain Carrey photos. Like when they show him from, like, 1995 living in a sharehouse in Australia or something. And he's, like, smoking hot. He had that, like, blonde little puff. And all the captains are, like, really hot in their youth. Actually, that's my favorite part was when they show them, like, every single one of them. Maybe not so hot. They are hot. Glenn had that. Glenn had that big, like, fro. But, like.

[Ronnie]

Well, yeah, Glenn has the best. The best captain photos for sure. Where every time they cut back, he's like, in a disco club in his big fro.

[Ben]

Yeah, I used to live in a cave and say hi to nurses. So true story. So anyway, Damo Mits is like, hey, can we. Can I talk to you? Fraser? So he's like. Fraser's like, yeah, what's going on? He's like, so what are you doing this evening? He's like, well, I was thinking that I think we're going out for dinner at some point. You know, I think that's what the group is doing. What do you have on? He's like, well, that's at 6:00'. Clock. And so if you've got time for a couple of drinks tonight and then maybe we can meet up with the rest of the crew afterwards. He's like, oh, oh, good. I get to be toyed with again for the fourth straight season in a row by a straight man. I can fall in love with someone again.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. He's like, well, Damo and I did kiss. He's a decent guy. He's attractive, but he's straight. So it's a straight date, which is not a date. It's just a straight thing. It's a thing we do. It's a gay on a gay having dinner with a straight person. Not really sure. Not really sure what to expect from this. But I'm in. I'm in love with him now. So he's gonna go and, you know, Barbara is checking on Solene and Solene's like, oh, I need your help because I need my best friend, you know, here in this bathroom. Like, he's very much Scottish right now, but I'm very clear with him. I have more. But I'm. I'm more clear with him than I am with Jess because I'm not very clear with Jess because Jess is Friends. And sometimes maybe a little bit more than friends is a little bit more than friends. You have too many options. I think Solane just has too many options. They need to start taking away options from Solane.

[Ben]

This is what happens when you cast someone from Love island on Below Deck.

[Ronnie]

Exactly.

[Ben]

They treat everything like Cassim or. And then I want Casa A less. Okay, so Barbara.

[Ronnie]

But now the whole show has turned into that and it's getting kind of annoying. Even though I like Love island, but this is. This is Below Deck. I don't need to see all the mainstream. You know what I mean? Like, it's getting old now. I need my, like, one or two storylines a year.

[Ben]

It's. It is driving me absolutely insane. I don't care about who Sylain is making out with.

[Ronnie]

And.

[Ben]

And, like, you can put it. You can have it as a storyline, but please don't make it the central storyline because that's what we're getting and it's driving me bonkers. I do not care about Jess or Scottish. Just, like, make out on the Side. I don't care. Let's clean up that spill instead. That's what I care about. Let's get this.

[Ronnie]

Yeah. Learn how to iron the sheets. You know what I mean? That's what I'm here for. I need my slutty shows in one corner and my mage shows in the other corner.

[Ben]

Thank you. I turn into the study shows. Like, I don't want to turn on Love island to watch them cleaning and I don't want to turn below deck to watch them.

[Ronnie]

There's a reason we never have to watch them clean on Love Island. That's not what we're there for. They have to shut down that set for a whole day a week to come and clean it, you know, because, you know, it's all skanky and there's sperm crust everywhere. Like, you know, it's nasty in there. It smells like butt rot. So they have to have a whole day of people cleaning. That's what they need the day off. They need to have the below deck crew come in and that could be a spin off show and clean. Then they can find and then we can go back to the fucking.

[Ben]

I'm gonna walk it back a little bit. I did take a huge amount of joy watching Huda fold clothes out of for some reason on the baby challenge day. Like, sullenly, like, really have an angry. Like, I can't believe I have to fold these clothes right now. She just had a pile of baby clothes that they just gave her to fold. That was a delight.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah. But, you know, in general, no, let's just keep that. Let's just keep the show separate. So Barbara is like, oh, exactly. But I think this is why you should think if you're not getting confused with this friendship, because that's probably what's going on. It's like, well, but Jess is confused, but it's mixed, you know, I need to watch my soul. I need to watch my soul. And she goes, you should go to church for it.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ronnie]

Barbara's like, I think this to be my favorite. Barbara doesn't give a buck and she doesn't care about any of this stuff. She's just like, like, you want to make out with me? Maybe not make out with everybody. So.

[Ben]

You know, I think Barbara's hair really does a lot of heavy lifting too. Like, I just forgive, like, any trespasses that Barbara may have, I will just forgive because I just love her hair so much. I'm like, I don't care. She can really do no wrong by my. My book so she's like, yeah, I think so, Lane. She's just very immature. And I'm sure Jesse is growing feelings and, like, just deserves someone that is, like, not confused about. For me, about her. That's. That's how I feel about it. So now they're all getting ready.

[Ronnie]

Very romantic. Is it? And that's the other thing I'm feeling about this show. It's like they're making it, like, well, I mean, I guess we're lesbians, so we'll actually like each other. I guess we should just do that. We're the lesbians. There's two lesbians on the show. Well, I guess you're 100% of my options, so let's go.

[Ben]

Well, I think. I think Jess ultimately starts, like, caring about Barbara as just a mind game. I think Jess is revealing. Reveals herself in this episode to be quite the boy and. Except she's, like, a girl. And she's just using Barbara as part of her master plan to, like, retaliate against Solane for making out with Scottish.

[Ronnie]

But Barbara calls that. She's like, no, I feel like you just want me because you're trying to make her jealous, because she got you jealous and now you're trying to make her jealous. So, you know, Barbara's too emotionally intelligent for this. So. So, yeah, now it's time to get ready for the day off, the night off, or whatever. So Damo announces he's taking Fraser for a date. And Kyle's like, I think he's gonna break up with you, man. He's gonna break up with you. He's a breaker upper. Look at him. And I think that that's accurate. I think that's an accurate read on Fraser. Yeah, because he did seem to enjoy it last week or whenever, when he was like, just hold on, I have to talk to my boyfriend, who I dearly miss. I've only seen him five times in a year. Hold on. I broke up with that morning, moron.

[Ben]

It's over. So Fraser and Damo go to Palapa Lounge, which. That's fun. I love that. Palapa is a word that's often used in New York Times Spelling bee. So everyone take note. Palapa. It's also very fun to say, I'm gonna call the Palapa Lounge, which, by the way, Palapa is the last name of those two birds. Secretary bird. Pam. Palapa. Mr. Mushnick, it's Pam. Palapas here. Are you ready for your lunch? It's a thatched roof. Palapa.

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[Ronnie]

So Damo and Fraser go on a date. And Damo wants to know more about Fraser. And I do too, actually, because I'm curious to know if Fraser has one single human quality, like one single human ounce of emotion in him because I really never see it on this show. So I'm curious to see how he is in a romantic setting. And it turns out he's exactly like he is when he's telling someone to clean a bathroom. He's like, oh, really appreciate that. It's so nice to talk and not have to deal with the whole crew for 10 minutes. Isn't this lovely? I'd like a drink, please. Do it better. Do it better. This glass has spots on it. Thank you.

[Ben]

You call this a palapa? This isn't a palapa. This is just a garbage pail on top of a stilt. Get me into a proper one. So then we cut over to Jess, who is. Who tells us like, oh, still he's come to me, he's told me like, they've kissed, but like, I'm sorry, it's Jess. It's not Celine. Jess. Stilly has told last episode, Kyle just went up to Jess was like, by the way, I kissed. I kissed Elaine. Which is a real. Kind of like, it was a real dick move. I don't know why he thinks he's still part of this equation. Like, no one's even paying attention to him right now. And he still is, like, moping around like he's act like he's an active part of the of a triangle. The triangle has moved on. Sir, your point on the triangle has been replaced with. Barbara, I hate to break it to you.

[Ronnie]

He's like that part at the end of a TV show where the credits have rolled, but you keep watching it, thinking there might be a little extra scene. And then it goes. Then it starts that part where it's like, and now. Now the French credits, and now the Spanish credits, and now the Swiss credits. It's like, oh, my God. Fucking wheel of time. Do I need to sit here for 15 minutes? This is 15 minutes the runtime, and he's still just sitting there, like, maybe, maybe there will be something at the end.

[Ben]

Fun fact that I wish I had known when I watched it and I found out later. Flo has a post credit scene, everyone. So keep your eyes out, Ronnie, when you watch Floating Watch through the credits. It might be worth it.

[Ronnie]

So Fraser asks if Damon wants kids, and he's like, I have two fears in life. One of them is stingrays. The other is being a bed. Bedfather. Oh, for Christ's sake.

[Ben]

Actually, I have a third fear is that I do become a terrible father to a stingray. That would just be terrible. So then Fraser's like, do you have a relationship with your dad? I don't really care. I'm just out asking questions that the producer gave me. You can say whatever you want. I don't really care. So Demon's like, I do have a relationship. And he's like, is it not good? He's like, it's not great. I mean, hello, I'm on a yacht. And then all of a sudden, Instagram wall. I grew up in a house with my old man and my mom and my brother and our pet stingray. And for my dad's first marriage, I have two older sisters and an older brother. And I have a sneaky suspicion that my brother and I were supposed to appease my mom, who always wanted kids. And actually, she said, I wish you a stingray. And I said, but I'm a child. Aren't you happy you have a child? She says, no, I wish you had a stingray. And I don't really know want to bag my old man out. But what I will say is, in the second litter of kids, basically, he's saying that his dad never really liked him.

[Ronnie]

Well, he's saying that his dad already had a litter of kids and he didn't want another litter, another couple kids, but he did, just to appease the mom. And so he never felt like he was truly wanted Let me tell you what happened. Your father had you when he was 50. As someone who's nearing that, we're tired, okay? That's it. We're tired. And I have friends at my age who are still having babies and stuff. More power to you. Hope you can afford a nanny, because not a one of you isn't tired, okay? And the one that does have a kid, he's doing a great job. He has a lot of help, though, you know, he has a lot of people surrounding him that can help. It's exhausting. When you're young, when you have a. You're. You should just be grateful that you have an. An old person there who's not throwing remote controls at your head every time you talk to him. Because that's what I would do. I'd be like, catch that. That's why you were born, to get my remote control. Go fill up the Starbucks. I told you how to make a two pump mocha. Go do it. That's why I had you. Okay. I'm exhausted.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, we're tired. You know, they. They should rename it from retirement to weird to we're tirement. So Fraser is. He's like, well, we all go through so much growing up, but being British, we don't talk about it for the rest of our lives. Anyway, so demo's like, so you think you're making up for lost time? Because Fraser says that he didn't talk until he was 6, which is. That is surprising. I don't know about. About childhood development, but that is a surprising thing to learn.

[Ronnie]

Well, I didn't speak till I was six sticks vocally, but I was reading people with my eyes the second I came out of them.

[Ben]

But I was judgy from the boom. I was spat out of my mother's vagina. And I looked at that doctor, I said, really? That's what you're going for? For facial hair? You're holding me and you want me to see this first? Thanks a lot.

[Ronnie]

You looked much more presentable when I was being held upside down by my feet while being spanked until goo spewed out of my mouth. You really are one ugly. Please put me down. Please.

[Ben]

When they laid me down on my mother's chest for the first time, I couldn't help but stare off at the side and notice how disgusting the walls were in that hospital room. Could no one clean anything?

[Ronnie]

Could I please get served lunch on a decent table? I mean, what are these lumpy things that you've set me down on? Not eating out of these things, please, Captain. Sandy's a doctor. She's like, yeah, yeah, I've been trying to get him to do better tables.

[Ben]

Anyway. Anyone was. Everyone was absolutely impressed with my ability to throw a concert in one day in the, in the icu, but I had to move on from there. So I didn't talk because I was so bored with life. So dam was like, are you making it for lost time? Which is funny because it's not like Frasers are chattering box. Not like he's talking. He's not making up for six years time's worth of talking. And Fraser's like, I don't know. I still do a lot of the time, but I just have to fight through that. And being gay. Do you understand? Are you relating as when I said that, did you relate? No, I never want to show any of myself. I guess in the past five or six years I'm getting to know myself and who I think I am and I've decided that I am wretched and I think I'm going to stop speaking for another six years.

[Ronnie]

And so he does say human things here. He's just not saying them very humanly. You know, look at. I'm getting. I don't know how to say it, but I'm getting that humanely, isn't that when you're being nice or is that just when you're being human?

[Ben]

I think humanely is, yeah, being maybe considerate, like being nice animals and.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, yeah, so I don't mean humane, I just mean like passionate human. Like, but. And also, Fraser is a robot.

[Ben]

Let's be honest.

[Ronnie]

He's a robot. Yeah, he's a bot. So when he's like. And then being gay, I never want to show any of myself. What kind of gay is that? I'm not that kind of gay at all. I don't know any gays like that. Every gay I know is like, hello.

[Ben]

Yeah, like if, yeah, if anything, like, I'm sick of not showing my real self here. I am wild. He's like, being gay, as you know, we are not very expressive. We're not an expressive people.

[Ronnie]

You know, gays have the most trouble with expressing ourselves. Even though our prime minister Madonna has been trying to teach us since the 80s how to do so.

[Ben]

Yeah. So Rainbow, anyway, is no chemistry on.

[Ronnie]

This date at all. Did you feel any? I felt nothing. I felt nothing.

[Ben]

I thought nothing. But I was excited anyway. I was excited for Fraser to have yet another straight guy on this show. Flirt with him. That's. He's Lucky. That's. That's a fun thing.

[Ronnie]

You know, I just think he did a disservice. I mean, listen, if you're friends with a straight guy, it's your duty to help them. And you need to tell him to stop with the highlights. His hair is ridiculous. Help him. You're a gay. You were put on this earth to help people, and you're ignoring your duty.

[Ben]

Yeah. So now, I mean, Rainbow is talking to Anthony and he's excited because one thing we haven't really talked about is that they are going to be spending two days in the villa for their vacation this season. And so Anthony's talking about how he's really excited because we're going to cook together. And this season is my redemption. Last season I was probably a little too weak. And this season I feel like I'm still weak, but not as weak. Well, maybe a little weaker. I don't know. Mommy is mad at me. I'm weak.

[Ronnie]

And Rainbow is very much like, well, last season it didn't go so well. She's like, I don't even know what happened last season. Oh, it doesn't matter, because this season, nobody will stop me. I love you, but I want my career to go up and up. And I'm not going to let anyone put me down this season, even not Fraser. But you know what I want? I want for you to tell me everything that Frasier tell me about me. Maybe he's talking sometime in my back and she's like, I'm not going to tell you what's going on with Fraser because at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. And he's my boss. Okay? But I will betray you by going to tell Fraser everything you just told me, you crying lump of. You want a piece of me? Do you want a pee? I'm sorry, flesh.

[Ben]

No, no, don't do that. Don't do that.

[Ronnie]

No.

[Ben]

This is my. Not my weak season. Last week season, my week season. So if you do that, I'm not. I'm going to. I have to be strong. Last season, I trust him. I forget, I forgive, but I don't forget. So I want to know if I can trust this guy or not. Just cheers to the storm. The boat will go down, but not my career will go up and up and up. I will be known as great chef who will have meltdown over cooking hot dogs. Okay.

[Ronnie]

He's so crazy. Listen, Fraser probably did have something to do with you getting fired. I thought it. Apparently a ton of the audience thought it as we see in this episode. But you know what? Ultimately, you got fired because of you. Like, there. There might have been other helpers there. And Anthony, but you still got fired because of you. And Fraser brought you back. And I can't even believe I'm sticking up for Fraser, but he got you another job, so shut up. Just shut up. Stop your crying, okay? Go blame your mom like everybody else on this show.

[Ben]

Well, Anthony, he. He brings us all back out again. He's like, after I got fired, Bobby told me, fasa is not your friend. He makes you. He makes you fired. I love Fraser. I love Bobby. I don't know who's lying. Two of my favorite fictional characters, Phajo and Bobby. One second psychiatrist, one icon. Can they beat the same person together? What if Bobby had talking show about psychology? I can't stop thinking about that. One of them is playing me for sure. I don't know who it is, but I will find out. Like, you're playing yourself. Honestly.

[Ronnie]

Such a wuss. My God. For crying out loud. So now the crew goes out. They're at the Anchor, which I can't even believe there's a restaurant called the Anchor, seeing as how it's the main point of stress on this show. It's like. Like, is this. This place should be all trauma. I think the waiters should come up to your table being. Oh, my God, you guys. What do you want? We might not make it. We might not make it. Okay, order now. You have five seconds.

[Ben]

Maybe. I.

[Ronnie]

We're all gonna die. Oh, we're fine. We're fine. Okay, here are your appetizers.

[Ben]

Maybe it's a restaurant that's Sue Simmons themed. Sue Simmons? The fuck is that? Oh, sorry. I didn't realize we're alive. One of my friends.

[Ronnie]

And my friend is dating this guy, and he was wearing a Sue Simmons T shirt. And I was like, do you like. Do you like that guy? And she's like, I don't know yet. And I was like, you better. Cause he's in a fucking Sue Simmons T shirt. Like, that's the man you marry. Like, I don't even care. Don't even tell me stories of emotional. Like, I don't want to hear anything. I just want to hear that you're in love with this man.

[Ben]

Yeah. If you don't know who Sue Simmons is, do yourself a favor. Her. Do your research. You'll enjoy it. She's great. There's a lot of homework today.

[Ronnie]

Looking up Sue Simmons. Secretary Byrd. S. You're all Googles. Are Fucked. So Lane is talking about how sometimes I struggle to sleep with you in my bed. And Chess is like, okay, well, you know, Study came to me yesterday, and he said that, like, you guys are still kissing and stuff. But listen, I just. I just want you to know, you know, like, I don't want Stilly to come to me. And she's like, oh, today I kissed him. Today I did it. I'm like, okay, well, it's not the problem. I just. I don't want to find out from other people, you know? Like, I'd like you to tell me.

[Ben]

You guys are not in a relationship. Well, first of all, he. It's more like, Stilly shouldn't be so messy as to go up and tell Jess that. In fact, if I were so lame and I found out that. That Kyle did that, I'd be like, I'm not making out with you anymore because you're messy and you're trying to ruin what I've got going on here.

[Ronnie]

I'm.

[Ben]

I'm enjoying making out both of you guys. And now you're showing that you're unreliable, so no more for you, Stilly.

[Ronnie]

Yeah, but she likes that. She likes getting everybody all upset. That's her game. It's her game. So Jess is like, you know, with. So. So I'm playing with fire. Because I know she's flirting with me, but she's also flirting with Steely. And it's a red flag, but, you know, it's exciting. So it works for who?

[Ben]

Not us. I'm telling you, it's not. It's not exciting for the audience. We don't care. This is not exciting. Okay, There. I don't care what flag it is. I just. Take that flag down. Take the flag off the pole.

[Ronnie]

Another thing. Yeah, take the flag down. No more flags. Take them down. So I think in this world, on below deck, there's only a couple of gay people, right? Well, actually, this is the gayest season we've ever had.

[Ben]

Gay.

[Ronnie]

But still, you're in a situation where there's two lesbians on the boat, right? So everyone is looking at Celine like, that's the girl from Love island. And she's, like, in little bikinis, and she's, like, hot. She's, like, traditional girl hot. But in the lesbian world, Jess is one of the hottest people I've seen. Like, she's hot. Like, she is extremely hot. So to see her have any kind of level of insecurity because she's in kind of a different place than the gay word world. Is so crazy to me. That girl's hot. She can have whatever she wants. So don't let this tootsie play you. Move along, sister. Move along.

[Ben]

Well, Jess is like, can I still kiss out the kids, people? And Slay's like, of course I'm okay with that. Whatever you want, man. We mean Andrew's dog. Voila. So everyone, they all get gather for dinner. And. And the other thing is, because they are committed to the Instagram wall bit, that means that everyone has to get one. So here comes Hugo's. And his big announcement is, I got into yachting, probably like a lot of other people. And I was traveling and I was getting away from life I had before, and I grew up Jehovah's Witness. And I didn't say I call this. I called Jehovah's Witness.

[Ronnie]

I didn't call Jehovah's Witness. So, no, I didn't technically call it, but I did. The second he came on my screen, I was like, this guy, when he was like, oh, I'm in an open relationship. We just do whatever we want, I was like, like, this guy is from a very, like, you know, religious kind of family. It just. He seems like somebody who escapes from that or comes from a very religious background that now he's like, yeah, now I'm so open. Whenever you talk to those people, you know, I've been one of those people. I am sometimes one of those people, and you start talking to us. That's what you find. Religious trauma every time. So I called that. I didn't call the Jehovah a thing, but I was close.

[Ben]

I. I just, I. I love that they just wedged this in here at dinner. They're like, who wants to get an appetizer? I do, because my parents were Jehovah's Witnesses, and then I decided to leave the religion, and there's a lot of. My parents have a lot of guilt, and they think I didn't prop. They didn't probably throw things in me. And it's like I'm. No, it's like my life would have been wasted if I stayed there. What aren't you want to be happy for me? I'm like, do you want French fries or not?

[Ronnie]

Okay, for real. He's like, I'm still traumatized by Ding ding dong. Really? Then why do you them? No, no, the actual doorbells, they just. They just remind me of my childhood.

[Ben]

It's like I'm sick of going door to door. So now I go dock to dock. So, Fraser, there are no doors to ring.

[Ronnie]

There are no doorbells on a yacht.

[Ben]

No doorbells in America.

[Ronnie]

So he escaped when he was 17 and you know, he doesn't feel like anything was wasted. He doesn't want to waste his life staying in a life that he didn't want, which, you know, good for you. That's a lot of pent up energy to get out though.

[Ben]

Good for you. Tell it to someone who cares on a different show.

[Ronnie]

Good for you. Have you made my coffee? Is my coffee finished?

[Ben]

Good for you. Tell it to your therapist. So Fraser pulls Rainbow for a chat. Very Love Island. Can I pull you for a chat? I wanted to pull you because you're really my type on paper. No, it killed me earlier because I saw you emotional and I won't have that anymore. And she's like, oh, no, I want to apologize. Never apologize. Actually, you should apologize to me. And then after that, never apologize. Oh, you can always apologize to me. Just anyone else, please stop crying. I don't understand emotions and it's strange when you do that.

[Ronnie]

But I want to apologize to you. But I want to.

[Ben]

Please. I spoke for six years so I wouldn't have to express a single emotion. And now I didn't like being around them whatsoever. So please shut up, do your thing.

[Ronnie]

It's like you're working so hard and you being second means you've got to put up with a lack of initiative, all right? And it's not on us to get frustrated. It's us on us to hate other people and fire them when need be. Do you understand? So I need another asshole in this position. So are you up to that? She's like, yes, I'll do it, I'll do it. Oh, by the way, I have your back. The chef was totally, totally talking about you to me. So you should probably go say something about that. I was like, oh, my God, Rainbow, you were just crying in this episode about how no one likes you and then you do something like this. What's wrong with you?

[Ben]

Oh, I think she was totally, totally not valid. Her feelings were valid. I think she was totally whatever. It was right for her to do that because her loyalty is to Fraser. And that was messy of Anthony to do that. And she was like, this guy's being messy.

[Ronnie]

Well, she was just a conversation with Anthony, getting him to open up and saying, we'll always have each other's backs. No matter who's crazy on this boat or how people treat us, we've got each other's backs. And then she runs right to Fraser and tattletales on it. I mean, that's. That's low. Come on.

[Ben]

Well, because Fraser was like, not only do I have your back, but I have your back against your evil stepsisters. And so she's like, oh, he has my back. Even more so. Oh. Which by the way, is a lie because Frazier is going to sell her out in one second. Second. And he's gonna gossip about her with the other two because that's what Fraser always does. Yeah, but I think it was. I think. I think it was like, you know, she was showing loyalty to her boss in that moment. And the thing with Anthony, I don't think that was real. That was. He. Anthony was using Rainbow to start. He was trying to start a. To recruit people to his side in a war against Fraser and he was being sloppy. I think. I think it was.

[Ronnie]

Well, I'm not saying he wasn't being sloppy. I'm just saying that if you're. If you're like, we'll always have each other's back. Everybody may mistreat us, but we've got each other. And then you run and tattletale on the person.

[Ben]

Well, I mean, what is that? Is that that Anthony was the only one who was actually consoling Rainbow in the past?

[Ronnie]

Like, yeah, it's like the only person that's nice to you. You just go and betray. Congratulations, you've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two. Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there.

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[Ronnie]

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