#2941 The Valley S2E15 Part Two: Mad Jax Fury Toad

Summary

Episode Summary: #2941 The Valley S2E15 Part Two: Mad Jax Fury Toad

In this engaging recap of The Valley Season 2, Episode 15, hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve deep into the tumultuous events that unfold in Part Two: "Mad Jax Fury Toad." This episode is a continuation of the intense drama that has captivated fans, focusing primarily on the explosive confrontations and emotional upheavals among the cast members.

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Opening Conflicts and Gift Exchange

The episode kicks off with the cast members exchanging personalized gifts accompanied by equally personalized, and often sarcastic, notes. Ben highlights the insincerity behind these gestures:

• Ben ([02:40]): “Dear Jax, your strength and courage are truly inspiring. Nobody who's ever even been in a room with Jax would say that literally.”

Ron adds a humorous twist to the generosity:

• Ron ([03:01]): “Jasmine says, I hope you find deep peace and joy. Britney is, I hope you start your new beginning and find a true new love one day.”

These exchanges set the tone for the underlying tensions among the group, particularly spotlighting Jax's lack of genuine appreciation and the cast's growing frustration with each other.

Jax's Struggles and Britney's Stand

A significant portion of the episode revolves around Jax's deteriorating behavior and Britney's unwavering stance against him. Ben summarizes the escalating conflict:

• Ben ([07:25]): “You know what's worse than doing the divorce thing while you're in rehab is you doing the cheating thing while you're in a marriage.”

Ron emphasizes Britney's resilience and refusal to tolerate Jax's antics:

• Ron ([08:22]): “Crazy. He's so hard to watch. And he's just teetering on the edge. He's just sitting there, clearly up, sweating... He's the worst.”

Britney confronts Jax about his irresponsible actions, highlighting the financial and emotional strain he's imposed on the group:

• Ben ([10:06]): “Yeah, but guess what? You are the reason why it became so expansive.”

This confrontation underscores the severe impact of Jax's behavior on his relationships and the group's dynamic.

Domestic Turmoil and Financial Strains

The hosts delve into the financial repercussions of Jax's actions, detailing how his mismanagement has left the group in debt:

• Ben ([10:26]): “And she's like, well, you know, I had to pay for all that stuff. Like, we're already in debt, and I had to pay for all that stuff.”

Ron criticizes Jax's manipulative attempts to shift blame:

• Ron ([12:03]): “I'm so fucking sick of this. It's just like watching a psychotic abuser over and over again...”

The discussion highlights the toxic environment fostered by Jax's inability to take responsibility, leading to widespread resentment among the cast.

Jax's Decline and Departure

As the episode progresses, Jax's behavior spirals further out of control, culminating in a dramatic departure from the group. Ben and Ron narrate the events leading to his exit:

• Ben ([33:44]): “They know. He's walking away from the season as a sexual assaulter, alcoholic...”

Ron condemns Jax's actions, labeling him as a toxic presence:

• Ron ([34:00]): “He's a psychotic man. He's a very psychotic man.”

This segment marks a pivotal moment in the episode, showcasing the culmination of Jax's destructive behavior and the collective decision to remove him from their midst.

Remaining Cast Dynamics and Future Implications

With Jax's departure, the remaining cast members grapple with the aftermath of his exit. The hosts discuss the shifting power dynamics and the emotional toll on individuals like Zach and Britney:

• Ben ([50:37]): “Let's call him. He has a wrinkly ball sack...”

• Ron ([55:04]): “I'm gone.”

The episode concludes with reflections on the messy and unresolved nature of the group's relationships, emphasizing that while steps are being taken to mend rifts, the path forward remains fraught with challenges.

Hosts' Takeaways

Ben and Ron offer insightful commentary on the episode's events, highlighting themes of accountability, resilience, and the complexities of maintaining friendships amidst personal turmoil. They commend Britney for her strength and criticize the manipulative tactics employed by other cast members:

• Ben ([33:57]): “Jax goes up to Danny and he's like, hey, what's up, fellas? What's going on...”

• Ron ([52:20]): “Ain't that humanity.”

Their analysis provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of the episode's dramatic developments and the underlying issues that drive the cast's interactions.

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Transcript

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[Ben]

Watch what happens. Watch what happens. Who cares what happens when there's so much what happens? Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Hi everyone. Welcome back. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes. But enough of that. Let's get right Back into the episode.

[Ron]

So everybody's opening their gifts and they read their notes and they're all extreme. They're all, like, from people. They're all fortune cookies. It's like this person doesn't even know you because Jax is. Dear Jax, your strength and courage are truly inspiring. Nobody who's ever even been in a room with Jax would say that literally.

[Ben]

Like, he has no strength. He has no courage. He's not inspiring. He just has sweat. Yes, he. He has fluids. Dear Jacks, you have fluids.

[Ron]

Yeah. Jasmine says, I hope you find deep peace and joy. Britney is, I hope you start your new beginning and find a true new love one day.

[Ben]

I did.

[Ron]

With the new doormat.

[Ben]

Jason says, may these crystals inspire confidence and attract success in every step you take. Bring. Janet says, bring. May they bring you love, calm, and a touch of magic as you embrace this beautiful new chapter with your baby.

[Ron]

Who was just called A and threatened to be murdered. So I'd just like to add that in there. It's not part of this, but it should have been part of this card.

[Ben]

It would have. It would have been nice if you had wished me better. Aim on skeeball at Dave and Buster. It's kind of my thing. Kind of my thing. Guys, Skeeball.

[Ron]

Mia's is. Take a moment to recharge. You deserve it. Thank you. And I would like to say, protect your peace, everybody. Protect your peace.

[Ben]

Mine says, I hope these crystals empower and remind you of your incredible inner strength. Danny, are you groping my crystal? Hey.

[Ron]

Hey. This is missing a comma. Daddy.

[Ben]

Hey. I just got kicked out of my crystal party. Kristen's just, like, sending your strength and hope on your fertility journal. Seriously? Seriously?

[Ron]

Like, oh, my God. I just said that the word fertility made me triggered. Why would you write this on my crystal? And Zach's like, oh, my God. The answers I seek are within me and all around me. Love your new balls. Thank you, crystal. Thank you, crystal. Benji could learn something from this crystal.

[Ben]

Thank you for giving me this extra smooth crystal. Jesse's is.

[Ron]

Does this crystal get crystal?

[Ben]

Crystal. Oh, my God, Benji, look. He's not impressed with that either. Wow.

[Ron]

I miss my ex boyfriend's crystal.

[Ben]

Jesse's is, may these crystals bring you serenity and ease your worries. Affirmation. With every breath, I release the anxiety within and become more and more calm about his.

[Ron]

She wrote him a really long one. And Brock's is like, oh, thanks, hon. That's the. That's it. That's it. Mine says, sorry about your Rubik's Cube. There you go. What a giver. Give up.

[Ben]

Oh, I was just about to discover it. I had one more corner to turn corner. So now it's the party. Fun times party. Luke asks if Jackson do a shot because, you know, because Jack's doing shots and whatever. And then Jen and Jason are kissing.

[Ron]

He hasn't done a shot for an hour, guys. So Jax is really meeting it out, really metering those drinks out.

[Ben]

The restraint he shows, he is an American hero. I'll just.

[Ron]

When you're literally timing your drinks, you're in trouble. And also, I don't.

[Ben]

So Jax pulls Brittany for a chat. He's like, it's not about. It's not about drama. It's not gonna be dramas. Don't worry. It's not a bad drama. Like, yeah, it will be. But sure. So he's like. So I had the guys over at the house, and I wanted Luke and Jason to see the place and just see all the outlets I had that, you know, Cruz could stick his finger into. I think that's fun for a kid, right? Or stairs to fall down, sharp edges, knives. I leave a whole bunch of knives on the floor. I thought it'd be a fun place for him, you know? And they said, yeah, this would be great. And they said, why don't we get a universal camera so you can see Cruise, you know, a little bit? She's like, well. Well, when we get to that point, that's a great idea, but we're not there yet.

[Ron]

I just.

[Ben]

I don't want, like, the other cameras, though, and, like, the other things. You know what I'm talking about.

[Ron]

And he's like. Because she's saying, like, I don't want you breaking into my cameras again. And he's like, no, no, I don't care what you do. I don't care what. Oh, really? You don't care what I do? Really? And then we see a scene of her. Like, I'm covering these cameras up because I'm standing up to try X. He got Britney. I got blocked. So he got blocked by Britney. And so he's like, yeah, you know, like, it just hurt. It hurt because, like, you know, you did this divorcing while I was in rehab, you know, like, you never even gave me a shot. Your shot was done. Your shot was so done that you threw a table and bruised her and punched holes in the wall with your child there to the point where you were about to lose your job unless you went to fucking rehab. Allegedly. So you know what's already Done, sir.

[Ben]

You know what's worse than doing the divorce thing while you're in rehab is you doing the cheating thing while you're in a marriage. How about that? So. But the domestic piece, of course, is worse. Britney is like, well, I went in to interview with the divorce lawyer and think about my options. And she basically is like. I was looking at it and she's like, I have to do it now because if I don't do it now, I'm not going to be able to do it. And.

[Ron]

But.

[Ben]

And he doesn't deserve, like, to have a second chance. The rehab is for him. He doesn't mean that. He, like, it's. It's not like some tool to be like, and now you get me back. It's like, she said, go to rehab and work on yourself. And you rage texted the entire time, which meant that you were not working on yourself. You broke the deal. She would have waited for you. She would. If you had shown genuine improvement, she probably would have. She probably would have stuck it out and taken you back, but you didn't. And you mess it up. And then he tries to be like, no, I only rage text. He's like, I only texted. I only did it for, like, two weeks. She's like, because I blocked you for the third week.

[Ron]

Yeah.

[Ben]

This guy, God, he's so crazy.

[Ron]

Crazy. He's so hard to watch. And he's just teetering on the edge. He's just sitting there, clearly up, sweating, you know, drinking. He's got, like a full drink after he just took a shot after calling, you know, spending the rest of the episode attacking someone for being a drug addict or whatever he's gonna do. It's just. He's the worst. And so she's like, well. And he's like, well, then, like, if you want to divorce me, then why are you sending me, like, pictures of the flowers and what you're doing in the backyard? And I'm doing that because you said I couldn't take care of the house, and I'm showing you that I can. Okay, stop. Just stop.

[Ben]

Don't do that. You don't have to prov.

[Ron]

Stop looking for. For validation from some fucking loser, man. Britney, my God.

[Ben]

You don't have to prove anything to him. He's like, well, it's not about the house and by the way, the finances. So now real Jax comes out. He tried to do, like, the. Like, I'm wounded. I tried to make myself better. Why don't you take me back? And now real Jax comes out. Where he's like, and the finances, which, by the way, you're going to see over time, it's going to be real heavy.

[Ron]

And you're paying your taxes for years. You didn't pay your mortgage. Who are you? Finances?

[Ben]

And she's like, yeah, but guess what? You are the reason why it became so expansive. And then she reminds us that he didn't pay for the mortgage. They incurred all these penalties. And then on top of that, there was his tax debt for everything. And he's like, you need to realize what I have done, you know? And he's like, you know what? Everyone makes mistakes. Which, if you're gonna do the everyone makes mistakes thing, then why are you being so harsh on Danny? Right? He's like, honestly, I thought I was literally doing the right thing by. By going into therapy and. And like, by getting my own place and. And giving you guys a house. She's like, no, that was the dumbest thing you could have done. See, that's the other thing. He's like, why didn't you wait till after I was out of rehab to divorce me? But meanwhile, he was in rehab and he arranged a whole new house and did all this other stuff. So he's fine with doing things while he's in rehab. She's just the only one who's not allowed to.

[Ron]

Yeah. And he's saying, oh, I got my own place. I gave you guys the house. You saddled her with your debt, you piece of. And so she's like, no, that was the dumbest thing you ever did. So they fight about that. And she's like, you put us. You put me and your son in a really position. He's like, oh, you live in mansions. You live in mansions. What are you talking about?

[Ben]

And she's like, well, you know, I had to pay for all that stuff. Like, we're already in debt, and I had to pay for all that stuff. And you could have waited until I was ready, you know, because basically, if I remember correctly, she got the Airbnb, right? Because Jax didn't come back into the.

[Ron]

House Jax wanted, but then he chose not to. Kicked his son and his wife out of the house, so.

[Ben]

And then he chose not even to.

[Ron]

Go back, and then he stayed there and didn't pay the mortgage. So she's been paying the mortgage on that place and this other place. Well, I guess he ended up paying the mortgage, but. Well, no, because she said that she saddled with all that debt, too. So I'm not really sure what he's paid because he's claiming that he. He's caught up and he paid everything, but it doesn't sound like it.

[Ben]

So he tries to pull this card again. He's like. He's like, I mean, I'm not fully over all this. Like, this is a decade in my life. I thought you were the girl I was going to spend the rest of my life with. You know? It's like, well, and whose fault that is it that it didn't work out? Okay, don't. Don't make it seem like it was her fault for pulling the. Like for doing something to protect yourself.

[Ron]

Yeah, I went to the facility and I thought, like, maybe she wants to see, you know, like, where I'm at when I get out. She goes, yeah, but by the entire time. And you were in rehab and this is. When is the two weeks. Like, you. You rage texting me? And he's like, that was just for two weeks. She goes, yeah, because I blocked you on the third, you idiot. And I didn't see my son. I didn't see my son. You kept my son from me.

[Ben]

Why is. Why does he think saying, but I only rage texted you for two weeks. Why is that, like, somehow a. Okay thing? It was only two weeks that I raised. Like, what, one rage text is bad enough? Especially when you rehab. It was, like, constant for two weeks. It's like, hey, it was only. I. Only. Only for half the time that I harass you and belittle you.

[Ron]

Yeah. I just. I'm so fucking sick of this. It's just like watching a psychotic abuser over and over again, and it's just too much. I can't take it. So basically the gist of the conversation is she sticks up for herself. He keeps trying to change. Move the goalposts and change everything to blame her, and she's not having it. And so finally he's like, fine, do what you get. Then we're divorced. And fine, do what you got to do. Go. Go. I don't even care. And she's like, so, are you going to sign the papers? And he's like, I'm going to have a lawyer look at it. She goes, you still haven't had a lawyer. And he goes, no. And she goes, why are you going to. He says, no, I'm going to wait up till the last day. She goes, why? And he's like, because I can. Why not?

[Ben]

Why not? What a dick.

[Ron]

So that's. But I know that's who you're dealing with there.

[Ben]

Exactly. He really shows himself.

[Ron]

And.

[Ben]

And I Love Britney's takeaway. I like. I like her epiphany that she had. She goes, you know, Jax went from being my very best friend to this person that I loathe. I mean, like, he makes me so angry. I mean, his pores are greasy, his cheeks are greasy, his forehead's greasy, his veins popping out of his head, and I just know everything. He's just greasy. It just. Whenever I was. I was madly in love with this man. I have my blinders on now. I just see him like a greasy man child. I love she just season his grease because that's what we all see. We just see this shiny person, and I just love that. Now she just sees the grease. Then, like, that's just such a poetic, wonderful epiphany to have the first greasy thing.

[Ron]

I don't like.

[Ben]

He's like, I. I was like, for a while, I was seeing chick fajita. No, I just see calories.

[Ron]

Oh. I mean, I used to be madly in love with him. I had my blinkers on. They were my blinders. But now it's just a greasy man child. So now Zach's like, oh, my God, you guys, I just peed next to Aaron, and I think we're brothers.

[Ben]

So Janet. Nia's at the bar, and she's ordering, and Janet is like, how are you? She's like, good. You look beautiful. Thanks. So do you. Which is, of course, girl code for I hate your guts. YouTube, get out of my face. You cut fitness. But it's said in their language, which is like, you look like Princess Jasmine Day. You're really pretty.

[Ron]

That's such a mom who hasn't left the house in a long time. The first thing I thought was that you look like Princess Jasmine. You're talking to the whitest person on the planet. What the fuck are you talking about? Why are you bringing up the princess from Aladdin? You're talking to the whitest lady on Earth wearing, like, a Marshall's, you know, rayon flower dress. What are you talking about? You need to get some more references.

[Ben]

She literally. Janet is like a Labubu out of costume.

[Ron]

Janet looks like a slice of monster cheese. Okay. Does not look like Princess Jasmine.

[Ben]

Like, literally all that. Jenna has, like, a ponytail. I was like, you look like Princess Jasmine. So, Janice, like, I want to be Zenith's party, and I feel like I owed Nia some sort of conversation or apology because I know I've caused her some real pain. And, like, she doesn't deserve the pain that has come with this whole situation. Of, you know, Daniel causing sexual assault. So then Neil's like, well, there's been a lot of hurt, and I'm still hurting. And I do think it's like more of a space and kind of a breather kind of thing, you know? And he is like, yeah, I just. It's not. I don't need space. I just don't want to talk to her.

[Ron]

I'm over it.

[Ben]

I'm done.

[Ron]

And jam is like, well, I'm sorry you're hurting. And again, I just want to apologize that the words I used on the boat were true and harsh. Okay. Really sorry about that.

[Ben]

I'm sorry that my words were harsh. Just like Daniel's sexual assault. Okay, well, you really.

[Ron]

Yeah, next time I'll go with serial rape, and hopefully that's. That's a little bit better for you. And she's like, it's just a technical term.

[Ben]

Just a technical term. Sorry. I saw Judge Judy recently, so I now have a. I. I've. Now I'm a lawyer.

[Ron]

I truly feel like her actions are unforgivable. She's like, but you know what? Time heals all, so if space is what you think we need, just know that there's always a bowl full of mediocre casserole for you, okay. Somewhere in a tiny place with a low hood. Okay. Can't say I didn't try, America. Can't say I didn't try.

[Ben]

I did my best. So the party continues. Jesse and asks Kristen to sage. Sage the demons out of him. And it's all fun. And my favorite thing was Zach. Like, everyone, I just want to say, watch out. I've already put my. My suit into, like, two tunas. And we see. We see a flashback from, like, five minutes earlier where he's gesticulating. So while he, like, brings his hand down and he literally puts his arm across two separate tuna tartar canapes, he's like, oh, my God, I have been assaulted by canopies. I'm furious. Right in front of Benji. Benji's like, wow, what a shock. You're dirty.

[Ron]

So then Luke checks in with Jesse, and Jesse's still doing his. Yeah, you know, man, I have my moments. I'm just so triggered. I'm triggered, guys. Like, I've had. I'm trying to have growth, and I'm trying to be growth, not show growth. You know what I mean? Yeah. Rogan Fan92 taught me that. And, you know, it's going to Hawaii with my wife, my. Her boyfriend. The financial shit I'm going through like, what am I supposed to do now? I'm single?

[Ben]

What if I lose it all? What if I lose it all? What if I lose loliestates.com? i mean, that would just be terrible for all of the people in the Los Angeles area not to have a certified and reliable realtor to help them with all their housing needs.

[Ron]

So Jesse just. Just for people who are really falling for this bullshit, Jesse did decided just not to work for a year. So he went through, like, a million and a half of their dollars, according to Michelle on the after show, million. Over a million dollars. Just spent it shopping, going on trips and shit like that just because he didn't want to work. And then Michelle left, and so now he's left with no money because he's not doing anything. Then he tried to take out a loan that she would be of, like, $300,000 that she would be liable for, and she put a stop to that. And now he's crying like he can't understand where his life went wrong. It went wrong when you stopped fucking working and spent over a million dollars, you dumb ass. What do you. Yeah, go to work. Get a job, Vicki Gumpelson. Get a job with some. Some house. Get a job.

[Ben]

Sell a house. Okay? He's like, I mean, I'm just, like, so tired, and the last thing I want to do is come here and, like, go to a Zen party. Like, I'm not saying, look at me. I am not Zen. It's like, okay, it's like, what if I lose the house? What if I lose custody? I lose my friends and I'm isolated. That's a shitty. Okay, enough, sir. Just, you know, relax. We all know this is fake. Bravo for your. For beautiful performance of a man who has a heart. But we all know you're a psychopath.

[Ron]

We're very familiar with the season finale gloss over by now, all of you, this whole cast, actually, especially the men, because it's. Well, the men in Janet are really, really laying it on hard this episode. So Luke is like, okay, well, bring Malibu and Isabella over to our house. You know, that's what everybody who's downing out really needs. Come to a. A little house smells like dog. It's covered in with two begging dogs. So, you know, that house has, like, Taco Bell wrappers all over the floor at all times.

[Ben]

So, yeah, come on over. You know, we got Jill, who's learned how to beg thanks to Kristen's dog. Thanks a lot, honey. I mean, you know, whatever. And Jesse's like, I appreciate that, but Like, I don't usually drive to the Valley. So for all of Jesse's tears, whatever, like, what about Isabella? And someone's like, oh, come on over. We'll let me help us. We'll help you out. We'll like, we'll do something that might make Isabella happier. And he's like, no, I'm not gonna do that because I don't want to drive the Valley just as a show. I mean, I joke about that, like, oh my God, going to the Valley, but I think for your kid you would do it right? But I know he's being, at the same time he's also being real.

[Ron]

Not really. He's just being like, oh my God, guys, what if I'm poor? Like, come to the Valley. Not that poor.

[Ben]

He's like, no. He's like, I already finished my what was me monologue. I don't actually have to act on it. Thank you very much.

[Ron]

Yeah, so he' like, you guys can come to my house. Okay. You know, because I'm like, of all the people, I think who I want to watch Isabella for an hour, it's you guys, right? Wow, what a difference a year makes, huh?

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Ron]

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Joining Wondery, more party stuff is happening and Danny is having his seventh water with lemon. And so Jax is like, oh God, look at Danny. Is he drinking? I'M tired of this games he's playing around here. Like, oh, I'm not drinking. I'm not drinking. Own your. Like, Jax, not. Not the one to. To prosecute this right now. And Aaron's like, also, you can't even do that.

[Ron]

And you actually had to go to rehab after an abusive episode. Danny is at least, like, trying to make the effort to look like he's not drinking. What are you doing? You can't even show up after rehab and not have a drink. I mean, for Christ's sake, you had 1 Coke 0 this whole season. You've got a full drink in your head right now, you fucking cokehead. What? What are you talking about?

[Ben]

And also, like, after you just come out of rehab, don't you have any sort of, like, perspective? Like, if you truly believe that Danny has a problem and his sneaking drinks in tonight, don't you feel like after being in rehab, you would approach it with more grace and sympathy and empathy? Like, hey, you know, if something's going on, you can always. You can always talk to me about it. Not like you're fucking drunk. Like, this is someone who took zero. Not only zero lessons, negative 50 lessons from whatever rehab he was in, which was a fake one.

[Ron]

Yeah. So he's spinning out, and he's like, that's this guy. This guy. I mean, look at. Look at that. Look at that guy. Probably drunk over there. And Aaron's like. I mean, he's the sweetest guy in the world when he's sober. And he's like, yeah, yeah. Well, guess what? So was Jeffrey Dahmer.

[Ben]

Okay.

[Ron]

And they're like, no, no, no, no. He's like, okay, okay. Who's the other one? Who's the other one? Who's the other guy? Who's the other guy? Jeffrey Dahmer. Ted Bundy. Ted Bundy. It was. It was Ted Bundy. And they're like, no, no. Britney's like, oh, my God. Is he comparing himself to Jeffrey Dahmer?

[Ben]

Yeah. I don't. This is just classic Jacks that whenever he loses something, in this case, an argument against Brittany, and he's angry, he has to destroy someone else and. Which is like. It's so. It's so bad. It's like. It's so. It just shows what a shitty person he is that he's got to ruin someone else. So he's just worked himself up into a tizzy. And so then we go over to Jesse talking.

[Ron]

It also shows how much of the other. How much that the other cast was carrying his Storyline the whole season, if you think about it, because he's been absent this whole season, so he hasn't been there to, like, say, my bar. Danny was kicked out of my bar, which he's wanted to do all season, and he had Janet and Jason there to hold his water the entire time.

[Ben]

Yeah. So now he's talking to Jesse and he's like, yeah, you know, I should probably go over and talk to Danny. I don't see a drink in his hand, guys playing it real cool with no drinks in his hands, hand, trying to pretend like he's not drinking by not holding drinks and not drinking all night. Oh, so just because you're drinking water, not drinking alcohol, we're supposed to believe you're not. You're only drinking water and no alcohol tonight. Real smooth. I'm like, he's literally not drinking tonight. Like, what are you. What are you trying to, like, concoct here?

[Ron]

And he's allowed to drink because he's not an alcoholic. Even if he is an alcohol. He hasn't gotten to that point where he's been like, I'm an alcoholic. I have trouble. It's not like he's fallen off some wagon. He's not drinking because he can't have a drink around you people without you going crazy every single episode.

[Ben]

Yeah. And Jax, I mean, this is so. It's also. It's such sad deflection. Like, it's so sad because it's so obvious. Like, be more artful in your deflection. Be more artful in, like, your very basic psycho psychological motives to be like, oh, I see in Danny what I see in myself, and I'm angry at myself, so I'm gonna take it out on Danny. Right? So he's like, oh, man, he's so worried about his look. Next week, guaranteed, he'll be up. So he's like, this is all a game for him. It's all a show. I mean, since when is Jax high and mighty about how anyone else drinks in this group?

[Ron]

Yeah. So Jesse is like, yeah. I don't know if Jax is really concerned with Danny's drinking or he wants himself to look better. Basically, he's like, he has a chip on his shoulder and nobody knows about dark side Danny, but I don't get it.

[Ben]

You know, he's a crab in a bucket.

[Ron]

It.

[Ben]

He's a crab with crabs. He's a. He's a crabby crab. So Jax goes up to Danny and he's like, hey, what's up, fellas? What's going on because Brock is there, and Brock's like, oh, I'm just chatting, but I'm sensing that I might get a Rubik's cube thrown at me right now, so I'm just gonna excuse myself real quickly.

[Ron]

Brock's. Brock knows exactly what's coming. He gets. He skedaddles right away. So Jax is like, oh, whoa, whoa. Hey, Danny. Danny, hey. So look at you. Danny. Danny, what's going on, Danny? He's like, doing all right, brother. Been crazy summer. Sipping on some water over here. Yeah. Now you got a couple of get togethers without me. That's okay because I've got three under three at home I can spend some time with. Love to see old dad over there, that's fun. But I guess you did it, obviously, to get at me, so what's that about? Sad about?

[Ben]

Yeah. Why'd you do that? He's like, listen, I'm not saying that you're not a good father. I'm like, that wasn't even on the table. Jack just starts off with that. Like, it wasn't even discussed.

[Ron]

His.

[Ben]

His. His parenting skills were not even in conversation here. He's like, you're a great father, but, you know, you are a terrible drunk. Danny's like, what? You don't even have a leg to stand on. He's like, what do you mean I don't have legs?

[Ron]

I've got two legs right here.

[Ben]

Now you're going to say I don't have. I don't have two legs. Wow, you must really be wasted.

[Ron]

He literally doesn't know what he means. He's like, what do you. What. What's that? What is that? Two legs?

[Ben]

What?

[Ron]

He's like, yeah, you don't have a leg to stand on. He goes, I've never. I've done. Well, whatever that means. I'm not a terrible drunk, okay? Like, because I. I have an anger issue, which leads me to drinking. So that's different. So, okay, well, then you're. You're imbibing your anger right now, sir. Like, your anger is on. You're attacking somebody in public angrily.

[Ben]

So I'm not a terrible drunk. I just get very drunk because I'm angry all the time, and therefore I'm an angry drunk. Like that. That's a terrible drunk. I'm gonna tell you that right now.

[Ron]

Yeah. And he's like, you're a terrible drunk. What are you talking about? He goes, you've been kicked out. And he's like, well, you go on rages. He goes, yeah, well, you've been kicked out of my bar for touching girls inappropriately. Twice, twice, twice, twice. And he starts doing this, like, repeating twice for some reason, which isn't true. It was once. And so now he's gonna say twice, because he thinks he's bringing something new to the table by saying twice. And Danny's like, no, that was once. And I dealt with that. And I dealt with it immediately, and that was a go. And he's like, can I talk? Because Jax keeps going, twice, twice, twice. He's like, okay, so I can't talk now. And he goes, you can talk, but I'm still talking. So I'm glad to have my opinion lied on my opinion.

[Ben]

Meanwhile, Jax, who's been drinking tonight, is Danny, who is sober. And Jax, who is drinking and being a terrible drunk, is now accusing Danny, terrible drunk.

[Ron]

Swinging a drink around in his hand at the moment. Like, we see his full vodka soda in his hand at the moment.

[Ben]

He's like, you walk around, you live in this fairy tale world where you think, oh, I got to make sure everybody thinks that we're perfect, we're protect. We somehow have two legs while everyone else has one leg. Well, we walk around, oh, I'm not drunk. Oh, wow, you're protected. And Danny's like, we're protected. He's like, yeah, like, we have to make sure we look perfect in front of everybody because we're so scared that, like, what people are gonna find. It's okay. Hey, Danny, it's okay to not be okay. Danny's like, bro, like, I say that all the time. It's okay to not be okay. Like, you think I don't know that? I've got it on my fridge.

[Ron]

So Nia's now standing at a table right by there, listening to this who thing. And so he starts aiming at Nia because he's not getting the reaction from Danny that he wants. He wanted a big fight for Danny to make an idiot out of himself. And Danny's just staying calm like, you're the idiot here. So Jax is like, oh, Nia, Nia. So first of all, I mean, I've called you multiple times to come pick him up at a bar. Multiple times. Multiple times. Multiple times. Did you hear me? Multiple times. Consider multiple. A leg and times. It's two. Multiple times. Got two legs.

[Ben]

I'm saying you got two legs. I will not stand for this gaslighting. And, like. But I. I almost hit you with a car when you were stumbling in the middle of the street. No, I wasn't stumbling. I was Angry. And the anger caused me to stumble because. Because you have one leg.

[Ron]

What?

[Ben]

No, I was stumbling because I've got two legs. Why don't people understand?

[Ron]

He's like, why are you making stuff up? Like, wait, you think you're living in some fairy tale world where you're like, well, Princess Jasmine's over there, but you know, otherwise, to be fair.

[Ben]

To be fair, yes, I do kind of think that. But that's okay.

[Ron]

And he's like, what? It's this. What is this? Miss America? What are you gonna do, throw a table at her? Jax, are you gonna really start a public fight with a woman now? He's, like, coming at her like, he's gonna go at her physically. So Kristen comes over and gets in between them, and she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm gonna jump in now. And he's like, yeah, yeah. What are you in a perfect world? Miss. Miss. 10 lengths. How's it feel? How's it feel? How's it feel?

[Ben]

I like Jack.

[Ron]

Lady Caterpillar.

[Ben]

Jack's like, oh, Miss America. Oh, Miss. And she goes, wrong pageant. Okay, all right, all right, Jax. Let's all break it up. Break it up. Break it up. Break it up. Okay, okay. And Jax is like, oh, well, let's make that up. Let's make. And they're like, we never said that. Let me. Let's make this very clear. You're not protected by anybody. Oh, they know we were protected.

[Ron]

They know. He's walking away from the season as a sexual assaulter, alcoholic. I mean, I think he knows at this point, nobody on this cast is about to protect them. So Danny's like, whenever. Shit. We were protected. And Kristen's like, look at me, Jax.

[Ben]

J.

[Ron]

Look at me.

[Ben]

Look at me. Drugs.

[Ron]

And he's like, you're like. Like, guess what? Yeah, we're perfect. And guess what, everybody? We're gonna try and be perfect because we're, you know, we're not better than anybody else. Like, I've literally called you to pick up your husband multiple times. More little times.

[Ben]

All right, you know what? He has a mirror in front of his face. He's talking about himself. Mirror, mirror on the wall. What is this, another fairy tale? I can't deal with this. I've got two legs, and we're not in a fairy tale. What don't people understand, dude? You're a psychotic man. You're a very psychotic man. He's like, psychotic. Oh, yeah. Would a psychotic man have two legs and have anger issues that turn into drinking? Issues. I don't.

[Ron]

So gross. So they walk him out. He's disgusting. And I love that this was Jax's last scene on the Valley. Bye, you. Goodbye. I love that your last scene on the Valley, you were greasy, drunk, disgusting, holding a drink in your hand and being a psychopath. Right. Like three episodes after you claimed it was your show. Just like the last time you got fired. Bye, loser. Have fun in obscurity. Have fun in whatever bowling alley you end up working at, okay? And I say that as a family. Goodbye, club. Good.

[Ben]

He's gonna work her.

[Ron]

Club.

[Ben]

Club. So Danny. Danny's like, well, I guess now it's time for me to get a little messy. Because guess what, everyone. He sleeps with the staff. And he's like, I've heard from numerous sources that Jackson slept with some of his staff. Allegedly. And Brittany even knows about it.

[Ron]

I love.

[Ben]

Wow. I will put the I love.

[Ron]

Yes. Because you know that this is true. So good for him.

[Ben]

Good for him.

[Ron]

But also, like, out.

[Ben]

Yeah. But also, like, is anyone surprised? Let's be honest. So they. So Brock is. Brock's talking to Britney. He's like, well, how long did it go on for? Go. How did you do it for so long, Britney? And she's like, I don't know. This is just who he is. So Danny says that, like, I don't think anybody that owns.

[Ron]

My problem with Britney is Britney was always fine with this behavior with Jax when it was aimed at everybody else. Else. And that's kind of my issue with Britney long term is this was always fine by Britney. She was always making excuses for Jacks. And it's my same problem with Janet and Jason. You know, it's like, I'm never going to take anybody. I'm never going to truly take anybody serious that has supported this in any way.

[Ben]

Yeah. So Nia and Danny are talking, and he was like, Daniel, that was on camera, he's like, what? It's right behind you. There's a camera. He's like, yeah, I mean, we're on camera right now. There's one there. There's one there. There's one there. She's like, I know. It's like, there's your camera everywhere. What are you trying to say? What are you talking about? She's like, never mind.

[Ron]

Yeah. You know, like, what they say about her, like, always trying to protect them and not look like idiots on camera is true. You know, but at some point, it's like, I'm gonna stand up for myself. Like, sorry, like, how long do I have to sit here and just get kicked. Sorry. But at some point, someone's gonna have to say something, you know? So Kristen goes to Jax and basically gets him out of here, gets him out of there. And then Jasmine just keeps having little lines because she, like Jasmine, let's face it, does nothing. She does nothing on this show. It's probably time for her to go. And Jasmine just. They keep cutting to Jasmine during this episode, and she just says things like, wow, there's just not enough crystals in the world to get this group through stuff. Glad Jasmine's here. Glad. So they made a check for this one.

[Ben]

So they start showing split screens of the Zen flowing out of this part. Like, flowing out meaning, like, disappearing at this party. So when she's like, there's not enough crystals to heal this group right now. So we see Danny and Nia bickering because he's like, I had to. I. I had to babysit those kids for half an hour to. That was three kids out to pay attention to. That was hard. And then. Then we see Michelle and Jesse. Now they're fighting out of nowhere. I would have liked it if we had some conduct. She's like, to this day, you've never asked me about my mother. It's like, because it's not my place to ask. It is your place because you have a daughter and her grandmother is dying. And then we see Sheena being. I'm just, like, confused because, like, now I'm hearing that, like, you and Kristen are, like, saying that I brought Jenna around to her. Michelle's act like, why would you say that about me?

[Ron]

And then we go. Now everybody's talking in all the split screens at one time, fighting with each other. And then we go to Sheena and Zach again, and Sheena's like, I'm not here to defend myself. And now you're throwing my name in the mud. And I don't really appreciate throwing my name in the mud. Eddie Ciprion. Heard of him? Have you ever heard of a guy from Desperate Housewives? I totally dated him. Read my book. Is that now Brock's cheated on me? Spoiler alert.

[Ben]

Can we just clear up one thing? My book is now available for download anywhere. Anywhere you get books or nerds candy. So Kristen's like, yes. What do you want to say? She not. Do you think that. Are you saying that I brought Jenna around to hurt Michelle? No. Okay, well, you were supposed to say yes, and I was gonna respond to that, but you said no, so I don't really know where to go from Here.

[Ron]

No, you and Janet said it, El Coyote that I was the one doing that, and that's the problem. And Zach' like, Jenna is not the problem here, okay? Not at all.

[Ben]

Not at all. Michelle, do you want to get in here? Who do you think is the problem? It's. It's Janet. Janet is the problem. It's Janet all along. J's like, oh, okay, whatever. I'm gonna grab my glass and I'm gonna drink out of it to show that I'm not the problem.

[Ron]

So then Kristen's like, okay, you just took her wine. Shannon just walks away. Away. So I think Janet. I think Janet is saying, okay. And Zach is like, oh, yeah, I'm really mad. And he picks up a glass of wine and starts chugging. And they're like, oh, that was the wrong.

[Ben]

Whoops. Yeah, Janet didn't drink. It was Zach. Yeah. My mind just took it to a Janet place.

[Ron]

Janet's trying to leave, but Zach has got. He's done that thing where he's got himself so worked up to fight that he's ready to scream and yell, but now there's no one to scream and yell at, so he just keeps doing it anyway. And he's like, john, it. One second. Johnny. Johnny that. And they're trying to get her back over, but he won't. So he's just losing his mind.

[Ben]

Yeah. So he's like, kristen is not bringing Jenna around to do anything. It is Janet trying to actually propel this narrative, and she's destroying people's lives. She tried to destroy me and my reputation. And then we see a flashback to her to Janet saying that Zach had demonic behavior at the beginning of the season. And she's trying to destroy Dunny and his reputation. And we see the sexual assault thing, and he's trying. She's trying to destroy. Destroy Rubik's Cubes and their reputation. You see, like, a flashback, an animation of Sheena throwing a Rubik's Cube at Brock. Somehow she was involved with that. I don't know how. I just know she was. The point is, Janet is evils.

[Ron]

Yeah. So Janet's telling Jason, like, I'm not doing this. Like, everybody's coming for me, and I'm not doing it. So then Kristen kicks Zach out because he's having a meltdown. And she's like, this isn't even your fight. This is a Jenna fight, so go away. So Jenna's like, oh, my God. How is everybody blaming me? I'm, like, the coolest person here. Casseroles. Okay, Kristen Invited Jenna to her housewarming party. Zach invited Jenna to Benji's party. Okay, well then maybe let's not people that Jenna has fucked on tv. Like, maybe you all need to start dating outside of this thirsty group where every time you go somewhere there's someone else you fucked. Okay, you guys can't get mad when you're dating somebody that already fucked somebody when you weren't involved. It's not like you cheated. Jenna's allowed to fucking people.

[Ben]

Yeah, so Zach is like, brittany, like, what the. If you literally ever have Janet's back again, I am literally over this. Who Janet? What Janet? Why Janet? When Janet. I'm literally over here trying to have a serious conversation with her and she runs away, okay? Like she doesn't want to actually hear what she's actually doing. She doesn't even want to hear about my screw talks. Okay? She's so like jocks. It's crazy. Are you under the same spell that you were under with jocks? Because they're the same person, Brittany.

[Ron]

Zach is just misfiring all over the place and it's hilarious. He's just floundering because he has no one to fight with, so he's just going to fight anyway because Britney didn't even stick up for Janet. So he's just yelling at Britney for no reason. She's like, what? Chicken wing sushi bridge chicken fajitas?

[Ben]

He's like, no, she's going to rip.

[Ron]

Off your skin and wear it. Come on. Well, that would be actually kind of flattering. You.

[Ben]

Do you know. Do you know she literally put two caterpill of tuna tartar under my arms? I would stick them in it. That was her, Janet. To dot like, Jack, just stop. Zach, you really gotta calm down.

[Ron]

So meanwhile, Michelle is saying, why don't you just start apologizing Grisdin to Janet for calling her a and that you wanted to beat her up and then you can dog, because that is not nice. And she's. Oh, is that all I said? Well, I could have said a lot more than that. That was pretty nice because. Okay, then we are not going forward then. And so Janet is now like, oh, really? And she said if threatening to beat me up and calling me a horse. All she said that was. That was really nice of her. Really? Really? Why don't you just pull my child up by the head right now and slit his throat. You just murdered my baby.

[Ben]

And she was like, janet, Janet, calm down. You know what, Sheena? I've had enough. Oh, by the way, could I can I just get, like one more autograph. I just really trying to complete my wall. Okay, sure. Because Kristen's like, okay, okay, listen, I'm sorry. We used to be literal best friends, and I say things, okay? Because you know me, I say colorful, shitty things when I'm mad. I'm just like, not. Yeah. Excuse. I mean. I mean, if you took that seriously by any means, you know it's not true. You're obviously not a. You're just a slut.

[Ron]

And so Kristen's like. And Janet goes, oh, well, Jax goes. And she goes, don't compare me to Jax. Don't compare me to Jackson. I mean, well, just say sorry if you're act. She goes, okay, you're not a. She goes, okay, so do you feel bad for calling me A or saying you're going to beat my ass and calling me a fan? And she goes, if it upsets you, yes. And Michelle's like, no, if it upset her, yes, it upset her. And chance, like, of course it upset me. Do you want to be called a and say that someone's going to beat your ass? Do you want that? Oh, for sake.

[Ben]

Do you want to be told that you. Like, you said that Danny's sexually assaulted? I mean, whatever. So Kristen's like, but we're different. It doesn't bother me. I don't mind being called A and saying that someone wants to beat my ass. I think it's kind of funny. Jason's like, well, Kristen, it would bother you. Don't even say it would bother you. Like, no, I've been. You forget I was having pump rules. I've dealt with a lot worse than this.

[Ron]

So we all know that if there's someone on this cast that Jason will stick up to, it's a woman or a gay man. So Jason steps up with his chest out and he's like, oh, yeah? Well, if I called you a whore and said I was going to beat your ass, that would be a whole thing. That's insane. And Chris is like, okay, well, what you did last summer fucked me, Janet. And that's why I told you. And Janet's like, you took my words and you twisted them, which is hilarious because that's all Janet does on this show. And so we see the whole flashback of how this all started, which was Janet at that table saying, oh, Kristen told Michelle that Jan. That I said Michelle was racist. Well, you did tell everybody that Michelle was a Republican, so they should be wary of her. Jan. That's how this all started. And then you started twisting words around to make everybody else look bad so you would not fight with Michelle. That's. I'm.

[Ben]

So it was actually really bad. And it was really Britney who really started it because Brittany is the one who gossiped about it that got this whole ball rolling in the first place.

[Ron]

Yeah. And we still haven't confronted Michelle about any of that original stuff that was said. She's never had to answer for any of that stuff. So then Kristen's like, well, then why are we licking my ass all summer? Trying to be my friend. She's licking your ass ass. And now she says, I'm a who licks ass. She just murdered my baby with a licked ass.

[Ben]

You asked me all summer, you said, I want to make up, I want to be friends. This is how you feel, though? Seriously? Seriously. She's like, because I wanted peace with you. You know, I thought Chris and I were friends. And I thought she cared about my well being, my low hanging hood, my ball pit that I always have in the, in the living room. And I learned very quickly two summers ago, she absolutely does not.

[Ron]

So then Jason's like, well, you can't weaponize her trying to make things good with you, Kristen. And Kristen just smiles. And Jasmine has decided try and jump in at the last minute. So she's like, jason, Jason, come over here, Jason. And he's like, you just relax, Jasmine. And she's. Jason's like, don't weaponize stuff, Kristen. And Jasmine's like, jason, let the girls talk. Just let the girls talk, Jason. Like, come on, come on. And because Jason's like all puffed up, like, coming after Kristen, which I find amusing because he's probably gonna go call Jax right away, make sure that he's okay, right?

[Ben]

The 100% he was, Will. So Janet's like, part of me wants to say I really regret giving her any effort. And then the other half of me is like, really happy I did because now I can walk away and I feel like I gave it my all. So Jason's like, all right, all right, let's go. Okay, whatever. Let's just stop. Just stop, Janet. And Janet's like, stop it, stop it. And because Jason's now saying, well, I guess guys can have. Have common sense, whatever. It's just ridiculous. And Jen's like, it's not worth it, Jason. Let's go, let's go.

[Ron]

Meanwhile, she is over there still trying to have a conversation. She's trying to make a storyline for herself. She's like, but I just want to clear up Hawaii. So then now we're over to Zach, and now he's crying, still trying to make this fight with Britney happen. He's like, stop letting her win. She's like, I don't even know what happened. Have I told you about my new doormat?

[Ben]

It's like, bye, bye, Janet. You're leaving. Bye. Bye. You know. You know, I still fuck. Like, I'm still like, fuck you. Like, you whore. Fuck you. I'm so fucking done with him. I'm done. Okay, so Jazz, like, oh, oh, bye. Did you say bye? I missed it. Did you say bye? It's like, yeah. Well, I didn't. I didn't say hi, actually. I'm sorry. Jason's like, oh, oh, by the way, Zach, I didn't say hi, actually. So here comes Jason now. This is when he's really puffed up, because now he's like, oh, it's my annual. Like, didn't. Didn't. This is my annual puff my chest up against the gay. So he.

[Ron]

Well, Zach did just call his wife a too. I mean, that's the thing with Zach. It's like, zach, we're rooting for you over here. Could you not call the women a whore? Like, what the. Calm down, Koki.

[Ben]

Yeah, but I still think that, yes, Zach did do that, but Jason really does. The only one he truly, truly goes after on the show where he gets, like, that evil smile, that evil look on his face is. Is Zach. He really does this. This is the second year in a row he did it.

[Ron]

Yeah, but don't call my wife over, too. Like, what the. Stupid Zach. Zack, don't do that. So Jason comes over puffed up, and he's like, oh, really? Oh, really? You know, your eyes are going. Going this way and that way, Zach. They're going this way and they're going that way. Drunky, drunky. And, Benji, you're a nice guy, but your boyfriend's eyes are going this way and that way.

[Ben]

Good.

[Ron]

Jason.

[Ben]

Jason needs to. He needs. This is why he needs to puff up his chest on more people, because he really needs to work on his disses.

[Ron]

It's so bad. He's just so. He's so Dockers. Like, he's so Dockers, even down to the. He's a Dockers disser. Like, it's so embarrassing. And I just love that Janet and Jason come on the show show, and all they do is walk around judging people for how much they're drinking. You're on a Vanderpump rules spin off. And by the way, your wife just Got into a fight two weeks ago at a Mexican restaurant in early evening because she was too wasted. So back it up, Dockers.

[Ben]

So they. They. They leave. And Zach is like, crying, and Britney's like, what is.

[Ron]

Like that?

[Ben]

Why are you doing that? Just chill. He's like, sometimes I need support, too. She's like, of course. Like, no, you don't understand. Like, sometimes, Brittany, I need your help. I got my sleeve. And do not torture her. You don't understand. I spent my two months rent on this suit just to ruin it right away. She's like, well, I understand. We could take it to dry cleaning. He's like, that's all I want. All I want is support.

[Ron]

So then they're like, calm down, Zach. He's like, I will hit you, Zach not helping, Zach. So then Jasmine's like, yeah, I mean, okay, Brittany. Well, here's the thing. He just wants to support that. You think that Janet, like, you support. Support him and not him. Like, you support her and you don't support him. And that's what. That's what he's saying. So I'll support all you. I support all y'. All. I support everybody. I'll support everybody. I support everybody. That he's upset. That he's upset. That's what it is. And Zach's like, you don't care. You don't care what that has done.

[Ben]

You don't care. Yeah. So that Zach is just like. I mean, he has ways to do. He's just like, sobbing. And Britney's like, this summer has been hard because I also feel like I'm in the middle of whatever I don't need to be. I'm going to say this a million times. Janet has been a good friend to me until she's not a good friend to me.

[Ron]

I'm not gonna act like she's a.

[Ben]

Bad friend to me. So Zach is like, nobody understands my feelings. Like, I'm not even. But, like, not even my best friends. Like, I literally have nobody who cares. I got Scrotox. And Benji's like, zach, I'm here. And they hug. Really sweet.

[Ron]

He gives good advice. Call him right now.

[Ben]

Let's call him. He has a wrinkly ball sack, which I really like. Like, you'll survive. That's just the way I'm surviving her unnaturally smooth balls.

[Ron]

So now people are still fighting, but then fireworks start, and Aaron's like, it's all about the journey. Cool. So then they're also active.

[Ben]

Fireworks are for them. And the fireworks are just from the Hollywood bowl over this. Over the hill. They're like, oh, my God, what a special night. They set up the fireworks for us. It's like, no, those aren't for you. But it's so this show to be.

[Ron]

Like living in the Valley. You can always walk out in the evening. Evening. And just pretend that there's fireworks for you, because they're every night, you know, it's like, wow. Yeah, this is for me. Yeah. Because I think we get the universal ones. Does universal have them? I hear them every night.

[Ben]

They do us. They do a show. They do, like, a few. Like. Yeah, they do something like that.

[Ron]

Yeah. So it's kind of winding down now. And we find out that Jasmine is planning a trip to propose to her girlfriend. And Joe, Jax is telling Jesse that he just wants Britney to grow and be happy, but he's just not there. Just take Jax off my tv. I'm not gonna. I don't want to watch him. He's like, I don't see myself falling in love ever again.

[Ben]

Yeah. And then there. There are some truth. So Kristen is talking to Luke, and she's like, karma's on my side. Like, my karma this summer was this. And she holds up her ring. She's like, my karma. Karma. Chef's kiss. I love my karma. And then finally we see Zach drunk, and he's like, where's the napkin? And she says it. Jasmine going, here, just use my shirt. And that's like the end of the episode.

[Ron]

I'm gone.

[Ben]

Which is basically. That is. That is the metaphor of this show, which is it's messy. And they're just gonna use whatever they can to kind of clean it up the best they can. But it'll never be is really clean.

[Ron]

Yeah. Well, ain't that humanity. All right, well, we have the next three weeks of reunion festivals on the Val.

[Ben]

Yeah. Thanks for being here, everyone, and we'll catch you on the next episode. Bye.

[Ron]

Bye.

[Ben]

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