#2954 RHOM S7E8 Part 2: Two Ships Sassing in the Night

Summary

Watch What Crappens Episode #2954: RHOM S7E8 Part 2: Two Ships Sassing in the Night Release Date: July 31, 2025

In the second part of their two-part recap of Season 7, Episode 8 of The Real Housewives of Miami (RHOM), hosts Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam delve deep into the dramatic events that unfolded on the dual yachts. This episode, titled "Two Ships Sassing in the Night," showcases intensified tensions, personal confrontations, and the intricate dynamics among the cast members. Below is a detailed summary capturing all key discussions, insights, and conclusions from the episode.

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1. Nicole's Departure: Real Reasons Unveiled [03:34 - 05:05]

Ben opens the discussion by addressing Nicole's unexpected exit from the show. He posits that Nicole's departure was genuine, stemming from postpartum challenges rather than any behind-the-scenes conspiracies.

Ben Mandelker [03:34]: "Everything which actually that, that makes me believe that there was no vast conspiracy theory behind why Nicole left. It really was about like postpartum and stuff going on in her life."

Ronnie concurs, highlighting rumors surrounding Nicole's husband, Anthony, and his questionable legal practices, which may have influenced Nicole's decision to leave.

Ronnie Karam [03:57]: "I think she didn't want the girls. I think that he, Marisol probably was following him around with the private eye or something because I do believe that about Mary Soul."

2. Celebrating Kiki: The Radiant Star [05:05 - 09:14]

The conversation shifts to Kiki, one of the prominent housewives, with Ben lauding her poised demeanor and captivating presence.

Ben Mandelker [05:11]: "Imagine if Captain Jason got into medicine. That's what those scrubs look like."

Ronnie echoes this sentiment, praising Kiki's effortless charm and radiant smile, emphasizing how she elevates the group's dynamic.

Ronnie Karam [05:48]: "Kiki is effortless, Mother."

Both hosts highlight Kiki’s role as a stabilizing and appealing presence on the yacht, setting a positive tone amidst the brewing tensions.

3. Marisol's Maneuverings and Group Dynamics [09:14 - 15:00]

Marisol emerges as a central figure stirring the pot within the group. Ben and Ronnie dissect her strategic moves to distance herself from certain members, notably Adriana.

Ben Mandelker [09:14]: "I don't think she thought Alexia was right. There."

Ronnie Karam [10:30]: "Am I right?"

The hosts discuss Marisol's decision to join a trip to Canada with her husband, viewing it as a move to escape the yacht's chaos and avoid dealing with the group's dysfunction.

4. Adriana’s Spiraling Behavior [14:18 - 23:10]

Adriana's behavior becomes a focal point as she succumbs to excessive drinking, leading to confrontations and explosive interactions with other housewives. This segment underscores the emotional volatility she brings to the group.

Ronnie Karam [14:18]: "Adriana just turns nasty."

Ben criticizes Adriana’s inability to maintain composure, contrasting her with Marisol's seemingly controlled demeanor.

5. The Water Gun Incident: Escalating Tensions [25:00 - 35:50]

A pivotal moment occurs when a water gun fight breaks out between the two yachts. This incident not only heightens the existing tensions but also serves as a metaphor for the group's fragmented relationships.

Ben Mandelker [25:41]: "It's like a whole below deck episode."

Ronnie Karam [27:36]: "You guys are running out of references here. Wrap it up."

The playful yet aggressive exchange using water guns symbolizes the underlying conflicts and the lack of genuine camaraderie among the members.

6. Public Shaming via Text Messages [33:03 - 38:34]

A significant conflict arises when Marisol publicly humiliates Julia by exposing text messages, intended as a tactic to shame her within the group.

Ben Mandelker [33:03]: "It's the master the of of the cork Jennifer Corcoran we got our wish."

Ronnie Karam [36:52]: "This is the problem with them. None of them even fucking read it."

The hosts critique this approach, suggesting that the lack of context leads to misunderstandings and exacerbates tensions, rather than fostering resolution.

7. Morning After: Lingering Resentments and Miscommunications [39:00 - 41:47]

The next morning reveals lingering resentments as members grapple with the previous night's events. Stephanie calls out Alexia with a hurtful moniker, deepening the rift between them.

Ben Mandelker [40:29]: "You know what? I enjoyed it."

Ronnie Karam [41:14]: "I think this is where we really see what Alexia's problem is with Stephanie."

The miscommunications and personal attacks highlight the deteriorating relationships and the group's inability to move past conflicts constructively.

8. Conclusion: A Fractured Group on the Brink [42:23 - 44:20]

As the episode wraps up, Ben and Ronnie reflect on the season's events, emphasizing the group's fractured state and the challenges ahead in future episodes.

Ben Mandelker [42:23]: "Great episode. Thanks, everyone, for being here."

Ronnie Karam [44:20]: "If you like, watch what crappens. You can listen ad free right now by joining Wondery plus..."

The hosts express anticipation for upcoming episodes, hinting at more drama and revelations to come.

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Notable Quotes:

• Ben Mandelker [03:34]: "There was no vast conspiracy theory behind why Nicole left. It really was about like postpartum and stuff going on in her life."

• Ronnie Karam [05:48]: "Kiki is effortless, Mother."

• Ronnie Karam [14:18]: "Adriana just turns nasty."

• Ben Mandelker [25:41]: "It's like a whole below deck episode."

• Ronnie Karam [36:52]: "This is the problem with them. None of them even fucking read it."

• Ben Mandelker [40:29]: "You know what? I enjoyed it."

• Ronnie Karam [41:14]: "I think this is where we really see what Alexia's problem is with Stephanie."

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Insights and Conclusions:

The episode underscores the fragile dynamics within RHOM, highlighting how personal insecurities, external pressures, and strategic maneuvers contribute to escalating conflicts. Nicole's departure sets a tone of introspection, while Kiki's unifying presence contrasts sharply with the internal strife among other members. Marisol's calculated distancing and Adriana's volatile behavior exemplify the challenges of maintaining genuine relationships in the high-stakes environment of reality TV.

The water gun incident and the public shaming through text messages serve as critical turning points, revealing the depth of misunderstandings and the group's inability to communicate effectively. As tensions rise, the hosts suggest that the group is on the brink of significant transformations, setting the stage for even more dramatic developments in future episodes.

For listeners who haven't tuned in, this episode offers a candid look into the complexities of maintaining friendships under public scrutiny, the impact of personal struggles on group dynamics, and the inherent drama that reality TV cultivates. Ben and Ronnie's engaging commentary provides both humor and critical analysis, making it a valuable recap for fans and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Ben Mandelker]

So I went to the dentist last week. Ronnie. While I was there, I noticed that everyone in the office was wearing super clean and crisp scrubs. Like, I mean really clean. Like sort of like when a crew meets a new guest on Below Deck down under, you know, and like Captain Jason's there looking all prim and proper, etc. It's like that. Imagine if Captain Jason got into medicine. That's what those scrubs look like.

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I already know what they were because all the trendy scrub wearers wear them. They're figs. They are the scrub wearer. If you work in healthcare, forget what you know about scrubs. And figs aren't boxy, itchy or loose. Instead, they're comfortable, durable, and they have lots of smart design touches like pockets for scissors, your valuables and more. So you can keep your hands free to, you know, do medicine.

[Ben Mandelker]

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[Ronnie Karam]

Well, hello and welcome to Watch what Crappens. This is part two of a two part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one, guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one. Okay. It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

[Ben Mandelker]

Everything which actually that, that makes me believe that there was no vast conspiracy theory behind why Nicole left. It really was about like postpartum and stuff going on in her life. Because I don't think if they fired her, I don't think that they would include a moment where they're like, what would it take for you to come back if they fired her, you know?

[Ronnie Karam]

Well, I, I think there's a lot of shady accusations about Anthony's money and his business and his shady lawyering and he's like an injury attorney and apparently fires, not injury. What does he do? He's like some kind of person who has like mass lawsuits against people at all times just to try and get settlements. And there's like a lot of shady stuff out about him. And I think she didn't want the girls. I think that he, Marisol probably was following him around with the private eye or something because I do believe that about Mary Soul. Those rumors seem true to me. And she was like, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to, I'm not going to get rid of my riches to stay on this stupid show with those crazy brujas. Like, I'm out of here.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So I think she's just going to do the friend of thing and keep it simple on herself.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. And by the way, I think the friend of thing is like, she looks like light and happy. I mean she always looked great, but she looked like, she really did look wonderful in the scene. She looked, she looked just like, ugh, I'm so unburdened right now. I don't have to deal with the bullshit of these people. I could just come in, have a free lunch on Bravo, and then go back to being wealthy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So let's go to the Miami beach marina, Kiki. We got all the long slow motion.

[Ben Mandelker]

Walks up to the boat, just strutting in. Kiki looks so good. I was like. I took a little video of it and I put it up on Twitter. I was like, does anyone walk into a scene better than Kiki? She just is like, model, catwalk, radiant, smile. God. Radian is my real buzzword today. I wonder how many more times I can say it. But she is radiant. And she's smiling and, like, in the sun and gorgeous. I was like, this lady just knows how to make an entrance. I love Kiki.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay? Yep, she sure does. Very slow motion. I don't even think they use slow motor.

[Ben Mandelker]

I expect a big yes. And on that, a big yes. And come on now.

[Ronnie Karam]

You're very breathless. Gay today over the ladies walking.

[Ben Mandelker]

I'm a little breathless, you guys.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kiki is effortless, Mother.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. She is a vision.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

And, oh, my God. Kiki and Nicole might as well just be team Radiant.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is the kind of gay I am. My friend texted me this morning and was like, do you want to go see Gaga? And I was like, you got tickets? And he's like, no. And I was like, no, I'm not going to pay $500 to go see fucking Lady Gaga. Are you crazy? No, no. And he's like, what kind of gay are you? I said, that kind. The kind who will not pay $500 to see Lady Gaga. There you go. I'm sure she's great and everything, but I'm just not like an icon mother. Kind of a gay. So, yeah, Kiki walks very slowly. Okay, so then she gets on the boat, Larza comes, and she gets aboard her yacht. And Kiki's like, when you think of Miami, you think of the luxury, the lifestyle, the rich men who can loan you boats for a day. And that's what we're doing today, baby.

[Ben Mandelker]

I. Unfortunately, because of this show, I also think of these ladies doing terrible music videos for Adriana, too. But, like, that's fine. That's fine. Overall, I have very positive views of.

[Ronnie Karam]

It'S hot, hot, hot.

[Ben Mandelker]

I think of a community theater director overseeing a shoot to be like, I need you guys. Okay, come on. Is everyone in? Places. Come on, places.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right.

[Ben Mandelker]

Shuffle, tap, shuffle, tap.

[Ronnie Karam]

Are we eating Grape leaves are doing the grapevine. Can we pay attention here?

[Ben Mandelker]

Okay, you, the Russian one. You do the Roger Rabbit. You the one with a crazy face. You're going to do the Cabbage Patch, okay? It's called fusion action.

[Ronnie Karam]

Are we moonwalking or are we moon talking? Ladies, let's pay attention. Pay attention.

[Ben Mandelker]

That guy was great. So we see these yachts. It's fun. We see them. The captain and the Captain's like, well, this year is the master where the magic happens. Oh, yeah. This is where I'll be humping myself. Ha. No, I'm just kidding. It was funny though, right? Yeah. Being on a yacht is super fun and such. And, like, you don't have to, like, do anything. There's, like, a crew, like, and jet skis, like, and champagne at all times. And, like, lots of this and that. And xyz. Like, it's so good. I love it.

[Ronnie Karam]

So now we meet Ebony, the new friend of who's Lisa's friend. Lisa's like, hey, everybody, I got a new friend. Her name is Ebony. We've known each other for years and years. And she knows Kiki, she knows Gertie. She's always got my back. She comes to my Halloween party sometimes, takes things home in a Tupperware, I'm not gonna lie. But no one else is eating the food. Am I right, Ebony?

[Ben Mandelker]

Ladies and gentlemen, they are just. This show, they just keep on adding more and more friends of. I feel like Atlanta used to have the record for the most friend friend ofs. Because. But this show now has a full on stable. I mean, what happened to Carmen Carrera? She just. We. We just met her and she's already. What? She doesn't even get to come on the double yacht trip? Come on now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, she's.

[Ben Mandelker]

She's. She's moderately famous.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Stephanie comes and Alexi is like, oh, I don't know. Is it too soon to throw somebody overboard? I mean, under the boards. I mean, over the boards. What? What is it? What is it? What is it? How could you correct me in front of Frankie?

[Ben Mandelker]

He was here. You know, I know that, like, it's accepted to say overboard, but Peter likes to say underboard, and he's an artist, and I need to support his artistic vision. So I will now say that we're gonna throw her on the board. Sassy.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So she's like, you know what? No hard feelings, but I'd rather not be on the boat with Stephanie. So Stephanie comes and Stephanie's like, I'm here. It's the loud one. Do you guys want to finish my house tour? Oh, my God, I can't so Marisol's like, we just found out you're not staying with us, Stephanie. And she's like, ye. I'm going to go on a quick little trip to Canada with my hubby. He just loves Canada. You know, one of his big kinks is paying too much for books, so.

[Ben Mandelker]

He loves poutine. Now, by the way, this is how you can tell that she is thirsty. Thirsty. Thirsty. Because, look, Montreal is beautiful. Love Montreal. Been up there several times. Gorgeous, wonderful city. But if you are turning down a yacht in Miami to fly up to Montreal for a night, really to fly almost anywhere, you're only doing that to brag that you can do that, because no one in their sane mind is leaving a yacht in this beautiful blue water. Am I right?

[Ronnie Karam]

I would.

[Ben Mandelker]

Am I right?

[Ronnie Karam]

100%. I would leave the yacht. I would leave some old man's borrowed yacht for a day to go to a luxurious Canadian trip. Hell, yes, I would.

[Ben Mandelker]

No, I'm staying on that yacht. I'm staying on a yacht in Miami. I'm sorry.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yachts are just club super Sex can wait. Spaces smell like you're getting gas breathed into your face. I don't know. I worked on the dinner cruise, which I know isn't, like, the same kind of yacht they're going on here, but I don't know. To me, it's just stuck with a bunch of people I don't like in a tiny space.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I also, by the way, don't love that this event was planned. And then Massoud decided that he was gonna have a romantic dinner the same night as Stephanie's job. And I don't like that he did that, because this is her job. She has to be on the double yacht, and she has to deal with it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that works. Fuck Massoud then, too.

[Ben Mandelker]

Thank you. I know I could get you. Yeah, Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

I just needed to. I needed to water it a little bit. And I was like.

[Ben Mandelker]

And I was like. I was like, let me. Let me apply some. Some Bronwyn and Todd mentality onto this. Be like, wait a second. Ronnie wouldn't like this if Todd did this to Bronwyn. Let me do this angle instead. Come on. Be so.

[Ronnie Karam]

Alexia is like, oh, it's going to be such a fun weekend. I totally need this, you guys. Peter has been through so much. Okay, so Stephanie's like, where am I sitting? And Marisa's like, oh, yeah, just go over there somewhere. Okay. So we find. We see a clip of Massoud sending beautiful roses to invite her on this trip. And Alexi is like, she can have some fun with Massoud. That's what she should do. That's what she should do. Not on the boat. Not on the boat. So Kiki's like, okay, well, we're going to tie both the yachts together, and then Gertie's going to join us on Larsa's yacht. But unfortunately, we had to split the group because Lars and I, we were fighting who gets whose yacht. You know, Marisol said she doesn't want to be on the same yacht with you. Adriana. I'm sorry. She goes, me? Why me? Someone doesn't want to be on the yacht with me. Come on. It's me. Come on.

[Ben Mandelker]

I know Adriana is upset about two things. One is that Marisol says she doesn't want to be with her, but also the Kiki yacht is like the JV yacht because it's all friends ofs. And then Lisa and Adriana, you know, in her mind, is thinking, like, I deserve to be on the varsity yacht, but I'm here on the JV yacht. And meanwhile, Julia gets to be on the varsity yacht, and I'm here. And. Oh, and now Marisol gets to be on there, too. And she's gonna say, use me as the excuse. You know, all these things are going through her head right now.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So Marisol's like, well, I don't want to be on Kiki's ball with Adriana. I would like to look at the face, get the digs, get the comments. I don't need all that. I want to have a good time. Brought my mixers. Brought my mixers.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, I totally understand, Marisol, because if I would be put on Tiki's boat with Gerdy there, I would have said, I'm sorry, guys. How sick was that, right?

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, so sick. I was waiting for the blood to fall. I mean, what do we carry? What, are we gonna throw things in the high school gym? I mean, what is this? Where's sissy space at? Get a little freckle face over here. Just abused me throughout my childhood, am I right?

[Ben Mandelker]

I am not looking forward to joint dinner tonight with everybody. Okay. Oh, yeah. Well, so how long are we going to be here for? And Larry, go. Come on, let's go. Okay, so, yeah, Stephanie says that basically a tender is going to come and. And fetch her when the time comes. And meanwhile, Adriana is now spiraling. She's like, you know what the problem with Marisol is? She has no empathy with her dried up, bony, shriveled up dry ass.

[Ronnie Karam]

So, guy, I love Adriana. I don't care. So man rides by on a bicycle, and she's like, hey, daddy, there's a party here tonight. Party for three. So then they're all mortified, and they. They drive off or they float off or whatever. So they make some cheers. And Adriana just immediately starts getting shit faced. She starts pounding drinks. She's. She's slurring, like, within five minutes. And she goes, oh, what is that over there? Is that the mean girls? But the problem with Marisol, she has zero talent. Zero. Zero. Sorry. But it's the truth. You know what else? Dry knees. Dry. Those knees are so dry.

[Ben Mandelker]

This is the talent. Talent yacht over here is the talent. Is the talent here? Marisol had no zero talent. Talent is over here.

[Ronnie Karam]

Dry knees was my favorite. And so Stephanie's like, does this boat have a stabilizer? And Lars is like, of course it's like a boat. Like, of course it has a stabilizer.

[Ben Mandelker]

Of course has a stabilizer. What's a stabilizer, by the way? Well, it's not very stabilized, which is something that could be applied to this entire cast.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Stephanie's just already dissing the boat. Like, my butt would have a better stabilizer.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. So then meanwhile, Lisa's like, oh, my God, there's a dolphin. Oh, my God. You know that sometimes they try to rape you? And then Ebony's like, dolphin rape is a serious thing, guys. Hi, I'm Ebony. I'm. I'm on the show now, I guess.

[Ronnie Karam]

Got one line, and it was to promote awareness about dolphin rape. So it was great.

[Ben Mandelker]

Janet's like, sexual assault. They're dolphin sexual assault. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The dolphin decided to do the sexual assault.

[Ronnie Karam]

The dolphins are always trying to pretend to be so perfect.

[Ben Mandelker]

I was cornered by a dolphin that wanted to have some tequila. There I said it.

[Ronnie Karam]

When I was a kid, I was out in the ocean, and I kept swimming out and out with a friend. And then I looked back to shore and our parents were freaking out, waving at us. Come back, come back. And there was a shark coming around. They thought we were going to get killed by a shark, but it was just a wacky dolphin that whole time. You know dolphins with you like that?

[Ben Mandelker]

They do. They're smart.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, I could kill your children. Just kidding. I'm a dolphin. Anyone have a beach ball to throw me? I'll toss it up with my nose. Okay, Nobody.

[Ben Mandelker]

Dolphins are so rude because they, like. If I remember correctly, they, like, herd little fish closer and closer to the shoreline, because then the fish get trapped. They're like, wait a second. We're running out of room. It's maniacal. And I think they also flap. I think they flap with their tail. The ocean. And the force of that stuns the fish. The fish are like, oh, geez, what the. So they really are. They're smart, those dolphins.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, dolphins will fuck you up. I love them. They also work, like, for the CIA or something.

[Ben Mandelker]

They just need to articulate better.

[Ronnie Karam]

Seriously, they're so close to just, like, taking over the world if they just learn more, like consonants.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. Could you imagine being that smart and. But all you can say is, what was that?

[Ronnie Karam]

Why are you attacking Leah Black? We love you, Leah. So Adriana's like, I'm drunk already. I better eat. But Marisol, the ringleader with her damn trinis dry knees, does not allow to make people have their own opinion.

[Ben Mandelker]

Maybe it was bad idea to tell Adriana why Marisol didn't want to come on my yacht. It's like, she is manipulative. She is cunning. The fake Birkin bags and cubic zirconia rings that would not absolve you from the evilness of your soul. It's like Adriana talking to a plant to a potted plant.

[Ronnie Karam]

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[Ben Mandelker]

Stephanie's like, well, they don't bark, by the way, that's so Alexia. For many reasons. But I like one of Alexia's patented moves is that she's like, no, everything is fine. Everything is fine. But you did, you know, you did say something very insulting to me. She always says everything is fine. And then she adds a comma. But by the way, you did this and I fucking hate you. But anyway, everything's fine. Everything's fine. I love.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, but they don't bark. Stupid Alexia. Really? Because I'm like a penguin then. So what are you gonna do with that?

[Ben Mandelker]

Watch out, I'm gonna Throw. I'm gonna throw her underboard. She better watch out. So now. Now the. The women, like, the. The boats are next to each other. The women, Kiki and the girls on her yacht, go and, like, wave at the other ones. Adrian's like, what's up?

[Ronnie Karam]

Thank God I'm not on that boat. Oh, my God.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, Stephanie, you're on the wrong boat. Stephanie's like, no, I'm gonna get out of here. So Marisol's like, local. We came to have fun. Like, cheers. Cheers. They're on that boat. It's fine. It's fine. Let's have fun.

[Ronnie Karam]

Like, so Adriana sees them talking, and she's like, oh, Marisol induces the craziness. That's why you're saying it's crazy, because you induced it. Oh, you see, she doesn't stop. I mean, that's why I'm not on that fucking boat. I can't. Like, geez, what is going on? Is she telepathic and just doesn't know it yet? Like, she doesn't understand it. Like, I. I know it's. I heard you. I heard what you did to me. I heard. And there are two separate boats. So she's just, like, yelling across to the other boat, and she's like, well, yeah, because you don't know how to be nice, man. Just. You don't know how to be nice. You know? You don't know how to stop manipulating everybody. Fuck off. You all whore. You're all whore. Dry whore.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know what get into Adriana. Adriana is not fun drunk. Not like Marisol. Adriana just turns nasty. I was like, is Marisol a fun drunk? Is she ever? Has Marisol ever just been fun in general? I don't know if I saw that.

[Ronnie Karam]

Did you hear my carry? Joe, Come on.

[Ben Mandelker]

Why? You're like, Piper, Lori just coming home from the grocery store. Am I right? Everyone, come on.

[Ronnie Karam]

Somebody might needs to, like, give her, like, a biscuit or, like, something like this over here. Like, up, like. And Lisa's like, drinking is actually poison. It's poison. That's why I stopped drinking. Except for today.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know, they lured my best friend in there because she is trying to be with a cool girls. So Marcel's just complaining to Stephanie. Like, she's like, whatever. And Adriana's like, you know, one day she's gonna realize they're not the cool girls. They're, like, mean cougars.

[Ronnie Karam]

I mean, Stephanie's like, okay, I gotta go, but just hope you guys have a great time. There's no arguing. Okay, My boat's here. Bye. Can we remodel this boat? It reminds me of the wife. Okay. Can we make it floatless?

[Ben Mandelker]

Meanwhile, Stephanie's trying to say goodbye, and Adriana's like, go get plastic surgery on your bony knees because they need it, you wrinkled knees.

[Ronnie Karam]

Even Adriana and Alexia have to crack up because that's so good. It's like, who goes after someone's knees for like an hour? And Marisol's like, oh, yeah, well, this bony ass got three husbands, so doing something right. And so she's like, oh, God, that woman's an asshole. I can't take her. So then we see clips of Adrianna sassing off Jamari Sol. And she's like, she's an asshole. You know, that's. That's my answer about Adriana every time. Take it to the bank. And I love that she's wearing her widow. Her whole widow thing in the diary room right now. Because I love, like, she's an angry widow. She's an asshole. The veil down over her face.

[Ben Mandelker]

But I think, isn't this also where she shows off her, like, bespoke goblet that says Cockies on it and sparkles? I was like, oh, yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

You know, listen, no matter what's happening, Marisol is going to try very hard. Gonna try hard.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, you got to with all these narcs hanging around. So Stephanie is. She gets off the boat and now it's time to go jet skiing. This is like a whole below deck episode. So they. Larsa, like, goes down to the jet skis, and she's now in her bathing suit. So her ass is just like, boom, like, out. And everyone's staring at it, like, holy. And then she slips. She's like, oh, like, slip, like. And the captain's like, this is what why I like helping. Hey.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, my God, Life's his ass. I've touched it, I've squeezed it, I've drank out of it. I've gone back for seconds and thirds. It's just so delicious and fluffy. I mean, it's perfection. So then Lars and Alexi go drive off on their jet ski. And Kiki is feeling some water guns, wackily. So they go shoot the ladies with some water guns. And Adriana's like, permission to come on board. Do not tell anyone we are coming. Okay? Don't tell dry knees. Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Although she probably could feel our presence because we're holding water. So, you know those creaky, dry knees. Feel it. Arthritis. Am I right? So the producer is like, you know, the silly stuff. Producer's like, what would your bond name be? And she's like, a bond girl. Name is usually, like, a foreign name, right? Like, well, Marisol would definitely be dry Bony knee Gaga.

[Ronnie Karam]

Kiki is gonna be such a succulent because the name sounds like she. She suck. She do suck. And I like dick.

[Ben Mandelker]

I like. I like dick. Unless it's bald man. Don't trust him.

[Ronnie Karam]

I'm gonna be Lisa Knockstein knocking him dead with one glance.

[Ben Mandelker]

And Kircy gets it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, none of them really do. They just stop this gag. They don't even ask.

[Ben Mandelker]

Kiki's the closest.

[Ronnie Karam]

Nobody can do this.

[Ben Mandelker]

No one knows. Kiki came close with succulent, but Lisa being like, Lisa Knocksteen because I knock him dead. That's not the sort of pun they're looking for.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. So now they come on and shoot the ladies, and Marisol's like, oh, Adriana's torturing me. Stop it. It's not funny. It's like, oh. Oh, that girl is like the wicked witch of the West. Like, you do. You start spraying her, and then she starts melting. Okay, you guys. You guys are running out of references here. Wrap it up.

[Ben Mandelker]

NBC is so happy. NBCU is like, thank you so much for leaning into the corporate synergy. Wicked 2 will be out this fall in theaters also. I like that when they were, like, shooting them with the. The water guns, Larso was like, ah, ah, ah. And she had, like, a cocktail, and she just threw it in their face. Get back, get back. I'm like, larsa, you know they're not real terrorists, right? This is water guns.

[Ronnie Karam]

And you're in a bathing suit and just got out of the water. She's like, water, no.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, stop. Stop.

[Ronnie Karam]

So then Marisol sprays Adrianna for revenge, but Adriana doesn't care. She just catches it in her mouth and stuff. And Marisol's like, oh, my God, this is only funny from some people. She goes, oh, yeah, because you have a vendetta against me, so whatever I do is never funny to you, Tiny. And Kiki's like, oh, my God, guys, can we just get some drinks? So then they ask, what happened to Stephanie? She went to Canada. And Lisa's like, what a dream. I would have chose Canada too. Oh, God. Better than this bullshit. So now they take a shade break, and Julia is like, oh, so out of curiosity, Adriana, why the other night did you not go back with me and you stay behind with Gertie? Like, why can nobody just answer this properly? Julia, because you're a terrible friend and you're an asshole, and you deserve no.

[Ben Mandelker]

Loyalty because you ditched Adriana. And she's feeling salty, so she goes, because someone needs to mediate thee. And Julia's like, but what Gertie did was wrong. She's like, it was wrong. I am not condoning it. But who is gonna back. Who's going to be back to bring some kind of sense? I love Adriana, like, positioning herself as voice of reason in any situation.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah.

[Ben Mandelker]

If not me, who's going to have any sense in this situation?

[Ronnie Karam]

And she's like, but then why do you have to have her back? Gertie can have her own back. And she goes, oh, then why did you talk to Alexi and Marisol when they called me a liar in New York? And she goes, because you are friends for a year. Because you are friends for years. And she's like, but you sat there and you did nothing. And she goes, but you were friends for years. I need to listen to the point of view. Well, that's what I did, babe. That's all I did, babe.

[Ben Mandelker]

Busted.

[Ronnie Karam]

Which is a good point. You can't use that argument against her when you did the exact same thing.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah, exactly. So Julia's like, can't you plan this whole event? Happy, verted and deranged? And it's like surrogates. So Adriana is like, to me, putting receipts on a wall is more benign than throwing a glass of water in somebody's face. But God forbid, Julie gets called out about anything. And I think that she's right about that. I think the water was worse than the receipts. I mean, the receipts was definitely, like, a public shaming moment, but the water was still water.

[Ronnie Karam]

I don't see the receipts. I mean, the receipts didn't even say anything. And I'm glad somebody finally says, like, it's not like she showed a dick. It's not like she put up blowjob pic. Like, what are you guys even mad about? And then we find out that nobody even read it. So. Well, I guess we'll get.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Gertie.

[Ben Mandelker]

But it was a trap. It was a trap that was meant to publicly humiliate, even if it didn't execute on that front. So, like, I do think it was. It was shitty of Gertie, but I think that Julia doing that to Gertie at the wedding was way more humiliating.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Gertie shows up, and Julia starts giving her evil looks, you know, that she gives. And she's like, gertie is here. I'm so happy. She's the producer's like, well, at least you're not a liar. So, Lisa, they have dinner, and it's really tense. Everybody's sitting around together, and it's, like, really tense. And Lisa's like, oh, come on, we're on a yacht. Like, lighten up. Okay, let's do something, guys. We should do an exercise. We should go around and say positive things we like about each other. Okay, now, Adriana and Marisol, you guys start. Okay, well, I'd like her fashion sense. And I like. She's loyal to Alexia, and I like that if I was lotion, I would have something to do on her knees because the lotion needs to be needed.

[Ben Mandelker]

Marisol's like, well, let me think here. Well, she did a really good job bringing that bucket of blood. No, that was me. No, let's see. Well, you know what? It's cool that she can play the piano. I wish I could play the piano. So that's. That's nice. So she can play piano a little bit. And. Yeah, I think that's about it. I think that's okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Piano. But you were still always tinkling, so.

[Ben Mandelker]

See, she can't help herself.

[Ronnie Karam]

All right, well, that's nice. Let's do Gertie and Julia. You guys go. So Gertie's like, okay, okay, I'm gonna talk like this because I'm going to be the quietest I can be, so nobody can call me loud. Okay. So I would like to say, Julia, you have a compassionate heart, and it shows in everything you do from embracing two new children in your life and giving them an amazing future. And that's all I have to say. Very wonderful. So good for you.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, okay. Well, you know how to throw fabulous parties. But I also appreciate how you honestly share your emotions. And I cannot hide my emotions. Okay. Because I am, I guess you could say, not fake person who throws parties to shame beautiful Russian. Okay. Because I'm, like, the worst actress in the world, which, by the way, I'm.

[Ronnie Karam]

Singer and singer as well. Let's see.

[Ben Mandelker]

That's not nice. Not nice. And I thought after we see each other, that we had conversation, we would move forward like goat in farm going to feeding station. But that we shared the same desire to do that, and apparently not.

[Ronnie Karam]

But then you go to the party, and then you ask Daniel that question in front of everybody to make me look bad. But I only asked Daniel the question because he was there to help. She goes, oh, but it was a perspective you had That I took a different way, and I just felt I had to react in such a manner that may or may not have been amicable to you. Okay. Was that okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay.

[Ben Mandelker]

Hello. Hello. Hello. Star has a question. Star has a question. Okay. I have a question for you. This one is from Peter, who says, I am an artist. And he says, like, why did you do that at your event? Nobody here thinks that what you did was okay. And if Frankie were there, you would have done in front of Frankie, which is the worst thing of all. So nobody liked it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Okay, well, I'm not here to take accountability and counsel from somebody with such dry hair. So tell Peter thank you, but no.

[Ben Mandelker]

Well, no. You know what? That was really mean. That was really mean. You know what? We're not okay anymore. We're not okay.

[Ronnie Karam]

But also, how is this affecting you? That's my question. I'm not saying sorry for it, so I don't know how it affected you. And she's like, what the hell with these people? She's like, they may. It reminds me of being a kid when they would. Would make fun of my name. And I was isolated to an area where the kids who couldn't speak English went. And, you know, being othered basically by these ladies brings me back to that, you know. So Gertie is saying, like, I'm. I'm not interested in kissing ass. I'm a love. I'm a lonely lioness, not a following sheep.

[Ben Mandelker]

Oh, hello, hello. I'm the lion here. Okay, okay. Wolf, wolf, lion here. Woof, woof. Lying in the room. You're not the lion.

[Ronnie Karam]

Whether it was a reaction to what I felt was a betrayal, and Alexia's like, well, that's the only thing. She goes, well, who do I know an apology to? Because I did it. And that's what it is. So you walked out like it was a dick pic. It was like, oh, my God, like a dick pic. Oh, no. And she goes, well, I would rather a dick pic because I could see a dick. That would be good. That would be a good picture. I'd be like, hey, you know what? That was a good party. I had to see a dick.

[Ben Mandelker]

Like, this is not healthy. I haven't had a chance for all these months leading up to me being back in the group to express myself. Oh, Gertie, you included all of us. And when you did it in front of all of us, I mean, come on. You know I love cocky, so at least give me a dick pic. Did we move past the dick pic segment already?

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah, well, she also assaulted me, and she screeched at me at the top of her lungs at your wedding, and you didn't even care. And Adriana is just, like, trying to figure out how to get wine open. She's like, somebody could open this wine maybe, because, I don't know, not open.

[Ben Mandelker]

Do you think if I just rub it up against Marisol's dry, bony knees, the top will just come off?

[Ronnie Karam]

And Julie is mad that she's not defending her. And Gertie's like, I mean, I understand your friendship with her, and it's remarkable that you, you know, you run deep with her. It's fine. You know what? You won't listen to me and my side of the story, so forget it. Now, Gertie, it's not like that. We're very fair. She was. Oh, really? Did you read the text? Text message. Did you read it? And Marisol's like, no, of course not. She goes, okay, well, there you go. So then they ask Kiki, and she's like, no, I still have no idea what that was about. Like, why would I read that? And Lars is like, that was, like, 500 messages. It's, like, too long. No, it's, like, so long. Like, none of them.

[Ben Mandelker]

The producers have, like, have printed it out and, like, laminated it for them to look at, and they're like, this is a lot. Like, this is too much. Like, it's a lot. Babes. A lot of babes in here. A lot of babes. Yeah. A lot of babes in here.

[Ronnie Karam]

Babe, babe, babe, babe, babe.

[Ben Mandelker]

Not enough, Lenny. Yeah, I don't know what it. This doesn't say anything.

[Ronnie Karam]

This is the problem with them. None of them even fucking read it. And that's. I knew it, because when we. When we did that recap last week and. Or two weeks ago, whenever it was, and I was reading, we got a transcript of them, and I was like, there's literally nothing bad in here. There's nothing to be mad about in this whole thing. And they just all assumed it was some terrible thing, so none of them read it. So now they're all trying to read it. And Lars is like, yeah, but. Well, first we see Kiki go. Like, I don't see anything that says, like, bitch or anything like that. So I don't know why it's so bad. Lars is like, yeah, but, like, I didn't feel like these text messages, like, should be released to strangers because, like, I know, like, both parties, okay?

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't care. I know them both, and I don't care. So don't show them to strangers. Some Marisol's like, well, that was. That was like, sabotage, like a booby trap. It was like you were standing under a bucket of blood and someone pulled the rope. You know what I'm saying, Carrie? Anyone see it? Scary movie. Scary. You can't spell scary without carry, am I right? And that's really nasty. That's calculated. Yeah. We're all trying to be friends and support each other and, like, love each other. Oh, and how is that. That deterring from anything? Oh, because, like, the way you did it, like, doesn't feel like you care about any of us. Okay. Because you could do the same thing to me, Gertie. You could, like, actually send my text messages out to the public.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, yeah, well, she could throw water at you, too. And Marisol's like, well, that was never cool. We never said that was cool. We just didn't storm out. And, you know, we kind of loved it secretly because we'd been busy. Met you the whole season already, so.

[Ben Mandelker]

Look, we never said it was cool. We just sat there quietly and never reprimanded Julia for it. Never sat her down and told her the, like, you have to make things right. But, like, we never said it was cool.

[Ronnie Karam]

So Gertie is like, julia, the question is, do you want to have a private conversation? Because if you need time to move forward, then move forward. We can deliberate more later. She goes, absolutely. It should be conversation private because the feelings are too raw. We should give it time and then become conversational, like adults trying to move forward. I will wait until we are in a group setting again and then diss you in front of everybody. Like, adult still. She's got absolutely fine.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yes. That sounds wonderful. Yes. Thank you. So now it's the next morning. Everyone is waking up in their very small rooms, and people are. Adriana's, like, hungover. Adriana's pretending like she doesn't remember anything that happened yesterday. And then Larsa and Marisol and Alexi are sitting together outside, and Lar's like, hey, guys, should I call Stephanie? Like, and, yeah, call her up. Let's see what that hooker is doing up in Montreal. So they call Stephanie, and she's like, I bet the weather is delicious in Canada. Nice, cool weather. Oh, God. I don't really have a lot of Canada material. You girls are gonna have to help me out a little bit. Khakis.

[Ronnie Karam]

We're, like, having fun like those. So, like, it's, like, fun, like, she goes, well, hold on. Where's the Rottweiler. Did she bark? And Marisa goes, oh, that's you, Alexia. She goes, you know what? Fuck you, Stephanie. Fuck you for calling me a Rottweiler when I'm like a penguin, lying so, like, off. She's like, wait, you told me yesterday I was a Chihuahua and you were a Rottweiler. I'm making a joke about that. She goes, oh, no, that's not nice. I have a name. My name is Alexia. Okay? It's not Rottweiler.

[Ben Mandelker]

Yeah. She's like, it's way too early in the morning for Alexia to be this upset. I'm like, this is. I feel like Alexia's morning upset. Like, she'd be angry in the afternoon. This is just her. This is her light. This is her half asleep upset. So she's. Alexa's like, okay, it was a joke, okay? Because I'm gonna answer the phone with Kiki.

[Ronnie Karam]

Oh, wow.

[Ben Mandelker]

It was a joke. She's like, well, I was. She's like, I was joking, too. She's like, well, and we had a late night, clearly. Can you see she's really upset?

[Ronnie Karam]

So Stephanie's like, she called herself a Rottweiler. I was just going with it. She goes, oh. Oh, super funny, Stephanie. Super funny. Okay, that was really funny. And Lars is like, we need, like, coffee. Like, so Alex. They hang up on her. And Alexi is like, okay, what. What the was that then? And Lars is like, I don't even know like, what she was talking about. I was like, like, who's a Rottweiler? What? Like, I don't care.

[Ben Mandelker]

How much money does he have?

[Ronnie Karam]

Was it in a text? Because I'm not reading it.

[Ben Mandelker]

I don't know what a Rottweiler is. So Alexia's like, don't with me, okay? Because we said that. Playful, and she knows it. And now she's gonna call me a Rottweiler. No, you. You can't call me a Rottweiler. Aren't you happy? Aren't you happy? Aren't you in Montreal in your jet with your perfect husband close to Celine Dion? And you in your perfect life? Why the do you need to have to be so mean?

[Ronnie Karam]

I think this is where we really see what Alexia's problem is with Stephanie. Aren't you happy in your Montreal with your jet, your perfect husband in your perfect life? Yeah, that's. I think that I will say right there it.

[Ben Mandelker]

That 100% does. I do think, though, that when Stephanie said, where's the Rottweiler? I don't think she thought Alexia was right. There. I think she was like that. Where's that? She's, like, making a jokey allusion to that. And I think Alexia clocked it and was like, oh, you're not saying in a fun, playful way anymore. She's like, you. So, like, as much as it's like, what? We had a joke. We had a joke.

[Ronnie Karam]

I think if it was in front of Alexia's face, she'd be like, how's it going, Rottweiler? Because that's how Stephanie.

[Ben Mandelker]

Right? She would say it like that. But I think that. I think there was a subtlety. I think Stephanie got caught and then she pivoted. She's like, what is our joke? I was like, I think something got caught a little bit. And you know what? I enjoyed it.

[Ronnie Karam]

Yeah. I mean, I think Stephanie's okay because she made a. She made a reference to what the last thing she had on the bow, which was a Rottweiler fight. So she was like, so where. How's the Rottweiler? Oh, my God. How dare you? How dare you? Oh, there you go. I don't know. I just see Alexia being ridiculous. But you know what? She makes me laugh, so I don't really care.

[Ben Mandelker]

You know what? I love it. Yeah. It's so fun. Great episode. Thanks, everyone, for being here. Tomorrow. We've got some Orange County I think you're gonna want to watch. So we'll see you on the next one.

[Ronnie Karam]

Bye, everybody.

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